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Title: Risk management
Post by: Kara3 on June 02, 2023, 07:22:47 AM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: gunhell16 on June 02, 2023, 07:46:21 AM
Practicing Margin Trading is not recommended for beginners only in the cryptocurrency field. Because if you enter this way you will be obliged to borrow money from an exchange to buy crypto. Which can bring you losses if your set-up is wrong and you have no knowledge of it.

Also, crypto trading is very stressful, so emotional traders are not allowed here. Also, margin trade is only for pro traders. That's why DYOR (do your own research) is still important.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Oshosondy on June 02, 2023, 07:50:00 AM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin
To protect your margin? What do you mean by margin? Or you mean too protect the trading fund?

Focus on the risk not rewards.
A good trader will focus on both risk and reward.

Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
This is correct. There are times I waited to gain more and the price reversed and no more favour me. Sometimes, it can correct itself back while sometimes, especially if I use high leverage, it might lead to money loss.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: OcTradism on June 02, 2023, 09:18:42 AM
_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
It all starts with how you decide to open your position, start to trade or ignore it and wait for other chances at other times.

Before you open your position, you must know what is price to take profit from your entry price, what is price to cut loss from your entry price. If profit is not like 3 times of loss from entry price, don't trade.

Stop loss order: One of the Best Weapons in Trading (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173189.0)
Stop limit order (https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/what-is-a-stop-limit-order)

Two weapons to save you.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: MIner1448 on June 02, 2023, 10:19:58 AM
All right! When trading, it is important to follow the rules in order not to lose your money. Don't risk too much, start small. Use a stop loss to limit losses and always take profits when you have the opportunity. Instead of focusing only on profit, focus on controlling risk.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: hyudien on June 02, 2023, 11:12:25 AM
_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
I don't think this needs to be reminded anymore because everyone already knows that risk management must be done before playing in the market. However, does this idealism apply if you see a market rally in a relatively short time? Price fluctuations make traders more ambitious and unable to control the profit that has been targeted. It is true that we should make more money, but it will be more difficult for everyone to implement Stop Loss. Believe me, you are entering a trading area where the volume level is very high, so whatever the rules are, they are often forgotten.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: irhact on June 02, 2023, 11:24:34 AM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.

Risk management is very important when trading, one way we can use to manage risk is not investing too much into the market. It doesn't matter how sure you're about the direction the market is about to take, don't use a capital that It can't be ignored and move on if the market goes against your prediction. One mistakes newbies make is putting too much capital because they believe they know how the market will time out.

Cryptocurency market has too much volatility so the direction of the market can change in any second. The market could react to a news that just came out about Bitcoin and change the market movement. Making use of stop loss also contribute to your risk management.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: AicecreaME on June 02, 2023, 11:32:26 AM
This is applicable to newbies since they are still exploring the futures trading. High risk means high rewards, and low risk obvious means low rewards. Most of the people wants the easiest want, therefore they always end up losing their funds because they don't have enough patient to study trading first before asking for a huge profit.

Taking the high risk doesn't automatically means you could have a high reward, it depends on your skills in trading, that needs a lot of time, money, and dedication before you could achieve the skills that will bring you profit most of the time.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Wiwo on June 02, 2023, 11:40:50 AM
I experienced something strange during my early attempt to trading and for sure my obvious bad experience originate from my lack of risk management because I went overboard in my portfolio,  I started trading with a single pair asset and when I thought I have expertise in the method I went to double my trading pair without taking proper check of the limit difference between the two.

Btw I believe with time I have learned that giving up when loss happens is not a good thing and that risk management is built through experience.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: dimonstration on June 02, 2023, 11:46:03 AM
_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

I know that you are just trying to emphasize the importance of risk management on trading and I agree with you in regards with that but focusing on risk on trading is like you are just chasing safety over investment. Profitability should be the top priority and just incorporate the necessary risk management simultaneously.

We are trading to earn profit and not to minimize loss. You should not trade if your main goal to minimize your losses you will always be afraid whenever you are experiencing minor losses while you can earn more if you will just bare with the losses a little bit.

Invest what you can afford to lose so that you will not be to cautious on risk in a way that you will sacrifice already the aspect of profitability.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Tony116 on June 02, 2023, 11:55:30 AM
When it comes to trading, there are many factors that need to be a smooth combination and used in the right way each other to be profitable. Risk management is only one of many factors, it is important, but you should not focus on it alone and ignore other factors. For me, there is no single best advice in trading, experience everything for yourself and draw your own lessons and experiences. Don't trade on the advice of others or trade on your emotions, everything needs to be calculated carefully. Experience is what you need in trading, you can buy knowledge from others, but the experience can only be exchanged with time and money.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on June 02, 2023, 12:01:00 PM
_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

Though this is a very good idea to take note of while trading and we should also know that bitcoin trading is not the other shitcoins investment whereby we invested our money and at the end of the day we discover that our entire asset or money is gone except if we go for alts or shitcoins.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

As I've said earlier, you can not loose your whole money, another thing you can do is to make use of DCA method for investment on bitcoin.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

You can't control having experience with losses, especially on high volatile market like bitcoin, everything about it is risk, you can stop losses and take the profits if you think you're already loosing and set in for another entry when the market go bearish enough for you to enter.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Kelvinid on June 02, 2023, 12:01:20 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
...
Usually, people got afraid of trying something like trading because they think too much about the risk and possible losses which they believe it was not right. Because for me, if I have to trade, I'd focus on thinking about what I can do to minimize risk and earn a profit, and building confidence that we can do these things right. The more we think about risk, the more we lose confidence and hard to make good decision because inside our mind is all about uncertainties and this will drive us to losing ends.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: karabiber on June 02, 2023, 12:53:20 PM
Taking the high risk doesn't automatically means you could have a high reward, it depends on your skills in trading, that needs a lot of time, money, and dedication before you could achieve the skills that will bring you profit most of the time.
It is necessary to do research on risk management and asset management before investing. If you are going to invest blindly, your losses will increase and you will have an expensive experience. If you make your investment with as little risk as possible, your assets will increase little by little. Rapid wealth and ambition are the biggest barriers to investment.
When i first started investing i was buying stocks. By constantly trading, my portfolio eroded over time because i dreamed of getting rich fast. I learned that the system does not work that way, and it cost me dearly. What i will say is that when investing put aside your ambitions and reach prosperity step by step with smart strategies.



Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: palle11 on June 02, 2023, 01:09:38 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 

It is not only that you have to have the mentality of if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have, but you have to ensure that while having losses that it is very minimal that it will be insignificant to your capital. Like if you are losing just $1 to $5 in an account of $250 then you are properly managing your trade but if you only want to retain your capital then you may not be taking proportional risk that can grow your account and you will be stagnant. Meanwhile setting a stop loss and take profit is the right direction for a good money management


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: ancafe on June 02, 2023, 02:17:58 PM
Every active day trader is required to have a special view of risk management knowledge and this does not only apply to day traders, even all trading activities really need risk management to recognize the impact of trading. Because this speaks of the conditions in dealing with trades that don't work according to certain conditions.

_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
This advice is more suitable for beginners who are new to trading because for people who have long been associated with trading, the risk reward will be in accordance with the capital we place.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.
What is certain is that trading will not always generate profits, even though people are good at analyzing market conditions and still sometimes they get a loss, but the difference between beginner activities and experienced people. For example, for those who experience losing trades and they will try to increase the next trade to cover the previous loss, such is the activity of those who are experienced in dealing with trade and surely they have been taught by experience to achieve this readiness.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Bananington on June 02, 2023, 03:03:43 PM
A good trader will focus on both risk and reward.
Focusing on the risk gives you an idea of what you stand to loose when you trade. Knowing what you stand to loose prepares you to try as much as you can to avoid it.

 Focusing on the rewards will keep you motivated on what you stand to gain, knowing what you stand to gain can help stay committed to becoming good enough to achieve it in trading. Good traders know the risk and rewards.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: rozak on June 02, 2023, 03:43:34 PM
It's important to be careful when making decisions. but if you think too much about the risk that is too much it can also make us make the wrong decision. even if we are too afraid of the risks that will be taken it will make us unable to make decisions. even we can fail when we haven't made a trade.
just use the money we can afford to lose. especially for beginners. and just enjoy the trading being done. All traders want to profit, but we can't really avoid losses either.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Findingnemo on June 02, 2023, 04:07:05 PM

_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.



This is why we need to understand the process something called risk: reward ratio.

You can't always focus on the risk part and if you do you can't never make money, sometimes you lose and sometimes you win and that's the reality of trading profession but minimising the loss with stop loss can save you from sudden loss like 30% price fall over short time period.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Nrcewker on June 02, 2023, 04:55:48 PM
If you can’t manage the risks, then yes no one can stop you from making losses. In trading or online investments, there are always high risks of getting losses along with the profits. So if you don’t keep a stop loss or manage the risks, then yes there will be chances of getting heavy losses. It’s always advised to adapt to the market and trade only after having firm knowledge on the coin, hence this will help you to minimise the losses. But sadly many traders fail to follow this.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: hugeblack on June 02, 2023, 04:57:13 PM
_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
Risk management is a science that is taught and cannot be summarized in 3 tips, just as these tips are not golden or ideal for everything, and the evidence for this is that I am a supporter of not using a “stop loss” trade within a reasonable range and when you lose consider it a complete loss and do not try to sell at a loss, It is true that you lose your money, but from the beginning, you were sure of your strategy and that you were trading with small amounts.


Therefore, although your advice is good, trading is very complex, and in any case, risk management is related to psychological and analytical management more than a plan to follow.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: pawanjain on June 02, 2023, 05:29:17 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

A wise investor once said, protect your capital and never lose it. If we lose some trades that is completely okay.
It's normal to lose trades because that's how we learn but we should never lose all of it which happens when we don't use stop losses.
Then comes the harder part of taking profits which is a skill not everyone has.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Flexystar on June 02, 2023, 06:04:11 PM
In a working theory nothing like that happens. Honestly, what happens is exactly the opposite of it where we end up losing more than what we could afford to lose or risk. This is called as FOMO stuff, or sometimes it is also associated with the emotional breakdown where we think we could get back the profits or investment that we lost. More specifically it would be investment which is going negative.

The risk management that can happen in the above case is simply to practice controlling our emotions while making any trades. I have seen my own trades getting broke due to very this thing. However, I never controlled them properly and mostly I ended up stopping myself from trading. That was my risk management step for the good.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Fesatmas on June 02, 2023, 06:48:32 PM
In a working theory nothing like that happens. Honestly, what happens is exactly the opposite of it where we end up losing more than what we could afford to lose or risk. This is called as FOMO stuff, or sometimes it is also associated with the emotional breakdown where we think we could get back the profits or investment that we lost. More specifically it would be investment which is going negative.

The risk management that can happen in the above case is simply to practice controlling our emotions while making any trades. I have seen my own trades getting broke due to very this thing. However, I never controlled them properly and mostly I ended up stopping myself from trading. That was my risk management step for the good.
I conclude that you are discussing risk management for a beginner, where the first step in risk management for a beginner is being able to control yourself when you experience a loss. Losing more than we can gain is one of the steps that beginners must go through when they want to really get into the world of trading, and later this can be used as a lesson or used as a reference so that losses don't come again. . Learning to control yourself, understanding market movements, mastering strategies, limiting profits at certain times, and knowing where to stop trading when you experience losses are the basics that a trader must have. This is indeed difficult, but indeed this has become the rule when someone wants to be a healthy trader. If trading is not based on knowledge then it is no different from gambling. You decide to quit because you can't control yourself, I think this is the right and best decision for you, maybe this field is not suitable for you because not everyone can do it.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: alastantiger on June 02, 2023, 07:07:59 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

- Is there any profit that comes from being risk avoidant? That is, if a trader should focus on the risks and totally avoids them, will automatically make profit?

-  There are several ways traders react or manage risks both expected and unexpected which is more than just using stop loss. Sometimes, taking breaks is also considered a risk management strategy too.

- The market is dynamic and every trader must be alert to it.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Viscore on June 02, 2023, 08:48:17 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin
To protect your margin? What do you mean by margin? Or you mean too protect the trading fund?

Focus on the risk not rewards.
A good trader will focus on both risk and reward.

Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
This is correct. There are times I waited to gain more and the price reversed and no more favour me. Sometimes, it can correct itself back while sometimes, especially if I use high leverage, it might lead to money loss.
That is why always take advantage when there are opportunities to make profits. Otherwise, if you follow your greed, you will end up losing all your future profits. The whole trading market is very unpredictable, one day the prices are surging, the next hours you might see them reversing. So never ignore the possibility to make profits. You are trading to grow your money, so if there are potential profits, then go and trade.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: usekevin on June 02, 2023, 09:29:29 PM
The trading rule will very to person to person.Some may like to save his margin then huge profit.Some people are ready to hold to longer period to earn huge profit.Other people like to get margin profit of 5-10 percentage daily by the day trading.So you will be able to fit in any of this slot,I had think you wish save the capital then the profit from it.Fir this type of trading,you just need to wait till market response to your investment.It’s essential one to take risk in trading to earn more money from the trading in long run.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Ziskinberg on June 02, 2023, 09:33:52 PM
That is why always take advantage when there are opportunities to make profits. Otherwise, if you follow your greed, you will end up losing all your future profits. The whole trading market is very unpredictable, one day the prices are surging, the next hours you might see them reversing. So never ignore the possibility to make profits. You are trading to grow your money, so if there are potential profits, then go and trade.
Perhaps it was really unpredicted and so earning a profit can't be sure as well. That is why we should not lose any opportunities here if possible because we need to wait for it a few days to see it back or possibly never. But never I have to suggest trading if that person doesn't have any confidence or believing himself that he can do it because, in the end, he would still fail and lose.

We have to remember that not all strategies will work on us and using a stop-loss strategy is very helpful, especially for those who are too emotional.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Mahanton on June 02, 2023, 09:45:32 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

1. Golden rule on this investment or trading world here on crypto on which, dont invest or make use of the amount which you cant afford to lose. Mostly noobs would really be having that kind of impression
on where they do really go after for that quick and easy profits.

2. When you are on Green, then take profit; If you are in reds then its either you do set SL or would really be just holding until it recovers. As long you arent dealing with
futures then you wouldnt really be liquidated and this is where test of patience would really be seen.

3. This is where controlling greed or simply overall emotions of a certain person on which they would really be needing to act fast according into the condition whether they would really be
just cutting their losses or would really be wait up until they would be liquidated and would tend to deal up with another one or simply move on.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: blockman on June 02, 2023, 10:15:47 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.
All of what you've said are right. But when things are up to the point for a trader who losses his emotion, these can't be easily remembered.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
This is low-key advice. But many forget to take profit when they're greedy and think that the profit that's on their hand isn't that much. The tendency is to wait further to make the profits larger but it ends with almost nothing. That's based on true stories and experiences and that's why whenever you get to profit, just take it and have no heart feelings. With little profits, it's much better than to take home with nothing lose all of your trades.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: jeraldskie11 on June 02, 2023, 10:48:35 PM
Risk management is essential in trading. Sometimes you think you're winning because of winning trades, but when you look at your PnL, you're losing. Risk management involves estimating both the risk and the reward. Some traders are still losing trades because their take profit area is too high, causing the trade to return to their stop loss area instead of earning. That is why a partial take profit is always recommended and is incorporated in risk management.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Smartvirus on June 02, 2023, 10:54:29 PM
If you can’t manage the risks, then yes no one can stop you from making losses. In trading or online investments, there are always high risks of getting losses along with the profits. So if you don’t keep a stop loss or manage the risks, then yes there will be chances of getting heavy losses. It’s always advised to adapt to the market and trade only after having firm knowledge on the coin, hence this will help you to minimise the losses. But sadly many traders fail to follow this.
One who doesn't know how to manage risk is one who is set to make a lot of loses in trading. With the opportunity to make several times tunr over on your capital, a lot of people have take trading to a highly professionalise level where, you can't hope to survive as a newbie trader. Better for most, you've got resource materials everywhere you look online and the demo platforms to develop and practice trading but, your still going to make some loses. These loses would be a lot more minimal should you be able to scale your tracing with the idea of having risks for ich you could manage or not and deciding at what point you feel is safe to go into the market from your analysis.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: lalabotax on June 02, 2023, 10:59:51 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
The city cannot deny or rule out this risk management in any case, especially in trading. Because manh, risk management can affect our trading results. Risk management is not only to avoid big losses, but also to make us aware of the risks we might take, so that we are willing to do more by learning and developing strategies that are suitable with good knowledge. And risk management seems to be able to help cities to control themselves.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: awik p on June 03, 2023, 04:56:43 AM
risk management must be applied in trading, so that before we make a transaction we will know the possibilities that may occur, that way targets and stop losses must be applied, so that if the analysis is wrong, then we already know the losses that will be faced, so we must comply, because many of us are actually risk management has been implemented but in practice it is difficult to implement, this is the result of a psychological attack, thus disrupting the initial plan


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: mindrust on June 03, 2023, 05:04:04 AM
_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

This goes both ways. If you don't take any risks, you can't make any profits (or lose any money). If you want to make lots of money with so little investment, you should take the maximum risk possible. You just have to be on the right side of the trade but how are going to decide that? That's where it becomes a gamble if you are making your trades not based on any data.

If the trader always focuses on the risks like you said then he will end up taking no risks because he will be eliminating risks instead of adding to them. How is he gonna make any money then? He will not.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Rockstarguy on June 03, 2023, 08:47:38 AM

_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
Risk management is something every trader needs to have in mind so far as their is loss in trading.  Having risk management in the back of the mind it will help one to do the right thing by trading with the amount one can afford to lose, and it will also help in controlling greed in trading.  Consciousness of risk is very important and it is a guild from much loses, risk management is always an important aspect in trading and it is one of the qualities of being a good trader.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: GreatArkansas on June 03, 2023, 11:10:01 AM
(....)
_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
Most of the mistakes also related to this are traders that are not sticking to their plan, let's say for example, they have a plan for a trade on this pair, before they enter the trade, they already have the plan.
And then once the trade is active, some traders can't wait and will end up not following their plan, early exit or early stop loss, which in some cases results a losses or not following the risk:reward ratio.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Jody.Drummer on June 03, 2023, 11:47:27 AM
_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

This goes both ways. If you don't take any risks, you can't make any profits (or lose any money). If you want to make lots of money with so little investment, you should take the maximum risk possible. You just have to be on the right side of the trade but how are going to decide that? That's where it becomes a gamble if you are making your trades not based on any data.

If the trader always focuses on the risks like you said then he will end up taking no risks because he will be eliminating risks instead of adding to them. How is he gonna make any money then? He will not.

However, a trader must be willing to take risks, because if they don't dare to take risks, as you say, they will never get any profit. The higher the risk we take, the greater the profit we will get, and vice versa. In all cases such a cycle will occur, moreover this is a trade that does require risks that we must take.
But before that we also have to prepare well, I mean everyone can take risks, big or small, but with what do they take those risks, whether with the results of the analysis they did or just rely on luck. Because I often see people trading long or short for no apparent reason.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: stadus on June 03, 2023, 11:57:23 AM


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
It is important to not only start but always adhere to the principle of risking only what you can afford to lose, regardless of how long you have been trading. This principle ensures responsible risk management regardless of your experience in the trading market.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

A stop loss is a type of strategy, specifically a risk management strategy. However, it is crucial to be highly efficient in implementing such a strategy because our goal in trading is not merely to minimize losses, but to maximize profits. Personally, I would rather risk losing everything than remain in a prolonged trade that remains unprofitable.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: maydna on June 03, 2023, 01:38:25 PM
In trading, on margin or spot, risk management must really be considered because the market can change direction at any time, so we have to think about what to do if we face it. Never use too much money if you are not good at trading and don't have sufficient skills in trading because that will only make you trapped without being able to do anything and can only wait to sell.

And if you can already see profit from your trading, remember to take the profit while you can. If not, you will lose those precious moments, so you have to wait even longer to be able to sell them.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 03, 2023, 07:03:41 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin,

I think you meant to say, "to protect your asset." Well, every investment has its cons and pros, and to be on the winning side of your investment, the investor must always know the rules, T&C, and risk factors of the kind of assets in which they are investing their money. Like in trading, someone who is not open-minded can't really be very successful. What I mean by being open-minded is not attaching your emotions to the trade and also not casting all your needs and problems on the trade, striving to trade all the time just to meet end-time needs. There are people who think that trading is always very profitable; at such, they are always conceiving the thought of always making profit every day; they don't for once think of the loss aspect, and anytime they encounter losses, they attach their emotions, struggling to make a profit while still encountering more losses.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: tjtonmoy on June 03, 2023, 08:06:41 PM
There are more that you have skipped to mention here. And I don't think that is a good thing to do when you are giving advice to a newbie. If you enter this realm without full or proper knowledge, you are most likely to lose to others. And margin trading is a complicated thing to start with if one is a newbie. Margin trading includes using leverage. So little movement in the market could change your trade position in a huge scale based on your leverage. So try not to get greedy and set a higher leverage thinking you will make the big bucks. Because if the market acts against you, your loss will be huge too.
Market volatility also comes in play in this section. You need to analyze the market at your best so that you don't make any wrong decision which could go against your analysis. Stop loss and take profit is an important thing here as well. We are taught to use only those assets that we can afford to lose in tradings. But it is also important to know how much you can lose in one trade and that will not affect your next trade that much. This needs to be done by proper analysis too. Don't get emotional and think that if it's falling, then it's gonna go up again. And keep the trade open. Also, do not get greedy when your trade is doing well and keep the trade open for more profits. Set a target and set a take profit limit.
Making sure you don't put all your money in one trade is also a thing to keep in mind. If one trade fails, you need to have the ability to open another one later on. Divide your portfolio and create multiple trades.
Liquidation is also a risk in margin trading that you need to know. Also forced liquidation that sometimes exchanges does on purpose. Technical issue such as server problem, system outage etc. These should also be considered as a risk and take proper actions if those things ever happen. Chances are low, but it's not impossible.
Be as detailed as possible when you are trying to teach a newbie. Because they are unaware of everything.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: ItsCrafty on June 04, 2023, 12:11:47 PM

In trading, on margin or spot, risk management must really be considered because the market can change direction at any time, so we have to think about what to do if we face it. Never use too much money if you are not good at trading and don't have sufficient skills in trading because that will only make you trapped without being able to do anything and can only wait to sell.


Regarding the quote, I want to say that, Risk management is a crucial aspect of both business and trading. It involves identifying, assessing, and mitigating risks to protect the interests of an individual engaged in trading activities. The first step is to identify potential risks and their impact of occurrence on your trades .Then the next  is how you prepare yourself and  develop strategies to mitigate them. Regular review your work and with routine day to day analysis regarding the  risk indicators and market trends can help identify emerging risks and enable timely adjustments to risk management strategies. Keep in mind that risk management cannot totally remove all hazards; rather, it seeks to lessen their effects and pave the road for successful trading in the future.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Quidat on June 04, 2023, 05:56:52 PM
_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

This goes both ways. If you don't take any risks, you can't make any profits (or lose any money). If you want to make lots of money with so little investment, you should take the maximum risk possible. You just have to be on the right side of the trade but how are going to decide that? That's where it becomes a gamble if you are making your trades not based on any data.

If the trader always focuses on the risks like you said then he will end up taking no risks because he will be eliminating risks instead of adding to them. How is he gonna make any money then? He will not.

However, a trader must be willing to take risks, because if they don't dare to take risks, as you say, they will never get any profit. The higher the risk we take, the greater the profit we will get, and vice versa. In all cases such a cycle will occur, moreover this is a trade that does require risks that we must take.
But before that we also have to prepare well, I mean everyone can take risks, big or small, but with what do they take those risks, whether with the results of the analysis they did or just rely on luck. Because I often see people trading long or short for no apparent reason.
Taking risks is the main step that you should consider on doing because if you wont really be that taking risks then you wouldn't come up with these kind of actions on which it would really be that normal that you would really be making up steps for you to progress further or having the opportunity or chances on making up profits basing up on what are the things you've been dealing with.
On the time that you are really that engaging into something risky then this is where management should kick in. There are various ways on how to make yourself able to handle out such conditions
on which you would really be applying your knowledge and skills on your past experience on which you would really be neither to see to be positive or negative. There's no way on knowing about the outcome specially on an unpredictable market like this but somehow when it comes to chances then to those people who do able to risks would be always be having the chance
compared to those who haven't.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: molsewid on June 04, 2023, 08:42:35 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
I agree to use stop loss, when I started crypto I always forgot to use stop loss because most of the coin the I invested before are new coins that's why the probability that it will be go dump or pump is uncertain. Later on I realize that it is good to have stop loss not only TP, it is very important for beginner and also to those people who doesn't have enough time monitor their assets.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: nur rochid on June 05, 2023, 07:07:53 AM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
I agree to use stop loss, when I started crypto I always forgot to use stop loss because most of the coin the I invested before are new coins that's why the probability that it will be go dump or pump is uncertain. Later on I realize that it is good to have stop loss not only TP, it is very important for beginner and also to those people who doesn't have enough time monitor their assets.
trading on new coins will be more risky, if there is a disposal, then it is very extreme, that is where the role of the stop loss is to anticipate bigger losses, considering that sometimes we cannot fully observe the market, so we must be able to anticipate bad possibilities, and keep our finances safe. the size of the stop loss depends on each trader according to their view of the market, stop losses are safety, so we can calculate the risk at the beginning before trading. don't let us make the mistake of intending to trade short-term, until what happens is that we hold it for the long term


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Alisha-k on June 06, 2023, 08:39:31 AM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
Risk what you can afford to lose, that way you'll never give depression or suicide (like the story I read today) a thought.
https://punchng.com/how-ogun-student-committed-suicide-after-losing-school-fees-to-sports-betting/?utm_source=telegram&utm_medium=social
This was the link shared by the OP, in there is the full information of how the young youth ended his life for greed.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: TheUltraElite on June 06, 2023, 10:00:20 AM
You're absolutely right. Risk management is a key aspect of trading and investing. It involves implementing strategies and following rules to protect your capital and minimize the potential for losses. Here are some key principles of risk management in trading Determine the maximum amount of risk you are willing to take on each trade or investment. This can be defined as a percentage of your total capital or a specific dollar amount.
Managing risk is a topic for the trader who is between a newbie and a veteran. This comes with experience and most traders who fail to manage it end up with losses and eventually quit the trading scene. Therefore this should be started as the person is beginning their trading journey. The use of newly launched coins increases the risk many fold and I think this can be avoided by keeping the choices limited to bitcoin. Again humans love to take the risk and go with something that is new. So this risk assessment and management will continue.

Diversifying the portfolio leads to a large assortment of risk classes. This should be done based on how much one can handle stress.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Alpha Marine on June 06, 2023, 02:32:18 PM
This goes both ways. If you don't take any risks, you can't make any profits (or lose any money). If you want to make lots of money with so little investment, you should take the maximum risk possible. You just have to be on the right side of the trade but how are going to decide that? That's where it becomes a gamble if you are making your trades not based on any data.

If the trader always focuses on the risks like you said then he will end up taking no risks because he will be eliminating risks instead of adding to them. How is he gonna make any money then? He will not.

However, a trader must be willing to take risks, because if they don't dare to take risks, as you say, they will never get any profit. The higher the risk we take, the greater the profit we will get, and vice versa. In all cases such a cycle will occur, moreover this is a trade that does require risks that we must take.
But before that we also have to prepare well, I mean everyone can take risks, big or small, but with what do they take those risks, whether with the results of the analysis they did or just rely on luck. Because I often see people trading long or short for no apparent reason.

When they say "invest what you can afford to lose" doesn't mean don't take risk. We should always take risk but they should be calculated risk and they should be risk that won't wreck you if things go sideways. Investments on its own is a risk.
Risk is inevitable if we want to be better people in life. Investments should always be made, risk will always be taken but we should be smart about it. Don't take risk that will put you in a difficult situation later on. Taking a risk that will wreck you if it fails is also a gamble. If it works then fine, but if it doesn't you're in a whole lot shit.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Plaguedeath on June 06, 2023, 03:02:42 PM
You're just giving a common advice, everyone already know it.

You should explain about the spot trading, future trading, and margin trading, then compare to each other and how to mitigate risk of each of them.

Don't forget about how much the stop loss someone need to place, does it's -5% of the price you bought? -10%, -20% etc.

People who're not a trader already learn about only use what you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Bushdark on June 06, 2023, 09:51:09 PM
In trading, on margin or spot, risk management must really be considered because the market can change direction at any time, so we have to think about what to do if we face it. Never use too much money if you are not good at trading and don't have sufficient skills in trading because that will only make you trapped without being able to do anything and can only wait to sell.

And if you can already see profit from your trading, remember to take the profit while you can. If not, you will lose those precious moments, so you have to wait even longer to be able to sell them.
We don't need to keep our profits on the trading site or from the exchange we are using because we might be tempted to trade more and because of this, we might make loses since we can be tempted to trade with big capital since we have such amount on the trading account. Many of the experience traders know this and they are always careful how they execute trades since the market can be very risky when we have not atom of risk management when we trade in the market.

The spot market is a good alternative for newbie traders that want to earn more from trading and have not perfected there skill on trading in the future market. The market needs to be volatile for us to make money since we can't earn more when the market is silence. Traders that trade on a volatile market would make more money from trader since the random movement of the market can make us earn quick and also lose quickly if we miss the trend and direction of price.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: savetheFORUM on June 07, 2023, 08:53:38 AM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
I agree to use stop loss, when I started crypto I always forgot to use stop loss because most of the coin the I invested before are new coins that's why the probability that it will be go dump or pump is uncertain. Later on I realize that it is good to have stop loss not only TP, it is very important for beginner and also to those people who doesn't have enough time monitor their assets.
If someone is trading in the spot market, they might not lose anything if the price dumps of a token that they've bought, but the stop-loss will save them from getting their capital or a part of it stuck if the token dips and doesn't manage to go up again. If you have a stop-loss set already, once it's triggered, it will sell the tokens with just a small loss and your remaining investment will be released for you to be used in another trade.

That is the reason why it is important for someone to first learn the ways how trading works, especially risk management is extremely crucial because it can save you from extreme losses, if you don't know how to manage the risks, you might be exposed to greater losses than you might've ever expected.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: maydna on June 07, 2023, 04:41:33 PM
~snip~
Regarding the quote, I want to say that, Risk management is a crucial aspect of both business and trading. It involves identifying, assessing, and mitigating risks to protect the interests of an individual engaged in trading activities. The first step is to identify potential risks and their impact of occurrence on your trades .Then the next  is how you prepare yourself and  develop strategies to mitigate them. Regular review your work and with routine day to day analysis regarding the  risk indicators and market trends can help identify emerging risks and enable timely adjustments to risk management strategies. Keep in mind that risk management cannot totally remove all hazards; rather, it seeks to lessen their effects and pave the road for successful trading in the future.
Even though risk management cannot eliminate all hazards, at least we can reduce risks that have a greater impact to adapt to the situations and conditions. Risk management means reducing the impact that can occur and reducing the amount of loss. And in trading, to minimize the risk of loss, we can use a stop loss which can help us not to lose too much. To practice risk management, we can start with small money until we really understand how to do it and survive in difficult times until we can make a profit again.

~snip~
We don't need to keep our profits on the trading site or from the exchange we are using because we might be tempted to trade more and because of this, we might make loses since we can be tempted to trade with big capital since we have such amount on the trading account. Many of the experience traders know this and they are always careful how they execute trades since the market can be very risky when we have not atom of risk management when we trade in the market.

The spot market is a good alternative for newbie traders that want to earn more from trading and have not perfected there skill on trading in the future market. The market needs to be volatile for us to make money since we can't earn more when the market is silence. Traders that trade on a volatile market would make more money from trader since the random movement of the market can make us earn quick and also lose quickly if we miss the trend and direction of price.
It is better for us to save the profit by withdrawing it and sending it to another wallet we have full control of so that we will not be tempted to trade in coins we have not analyzed. Experienced traders will know when they are entering and exiting the market at the right time so they can manage their risk.

I agree that the spot market is a good way for novice traders to learn to trade. And don't forget to use small money to hone your analytical skills because having a good analysis can help you to get the right coin to trade. The market will continue to fluctuate, and we won't know how to choose a coin if we don't have analytical skills.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Faisal2202 on June 07, 2023, 05:00:12 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
That's my rule from the last 3 years, as one of my teachers (well he was a chemistry teacher) teach us this rule that, if you are not making money then stop wasting it also comes in the same category of earning it. So from then, i always try not to waste money on useless (unnecessary things). So, yes i totally agree with you that, stopping wasting money is better than not earning.

_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
I don't think, its a good idea to focus on the risk, not the rewards, because the reward is the main purpose of your trade, and if you will not focus on the reward then how can you use Stop loss which you just mentioned below this point. Because in order to put stop loss, you must have a reward (profit) in your mind that you think you could get according to your analysis. And sometimes, stop loss comes in handy when the market takes unpredictable turns, like a recent one when Binance get sued by SEC.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: jrrsparkles on June 07, 2023, 07:40:44 PM


_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

A stop loss is a type of strategy, specifically a risk management strategy. However, it is crucial to be highly efficient in implementing such a strategy because our goal in trading is not merely to minimize losses, but to maximize profits. Personally, I would rather risk losing everything than remain in a prolonged trade that remains unprofitable.
I would prefer minimising the loss over the profits so it depends on every traders but the conservative strategy is minimal risk and whatever the profit is. I don't understand why we need to risk everything when we are unprofitable for a long time, I will just out it on HODL until it makes profits than decision to sell for huge loss for our capital.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Mahanton on June 07, 2023, 09:42:30 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
I agree to use stop loss, when I started crypto I always forgot to use stop loss because most of the coin the I invested before are new coins that's why the probability that it will be go dump or pump is uncertain. Later on I realize that it is good to have stop loss not only TP, it is very important for beginner and also to those people who doesn't have enough time monitor their assets.
If someone is trading in the spot market, they might not lose anything if the price dumps of a token that they've bought, but the stop-loss will save them from getting their capital or a part of it stuck if the token dips and doesn't manage to go up again. If you have a stop-loss set already, once it's triggered, it will sell the tokens with just a small loss and your remaining investment will be released for you to be used in another trade.

That is the reason why it is important for someone to first learn the ways how trading works, especially risk management is extremely crucial because it can save you from extreme losses, if you don't know how to manage the risks, you might be exposed to greater losses than you might've ever expected.
I could say that Stop-loss would really be just significant if you are really that making some that hedging or scalping kind of trading on which it would really be saving up your ass when the market goes to the opposite side on what you had anticipated on which it would really be limiting out the losses but if we do speak about spot trades which you would really be needing to hit up a particular TP then you wouldnt really be having that SL just because once it would be touched up then it would be a complete loss.Whereas, when you do just let it open and that position does have that negative then for sure you would be still having the chance on having break even since the losses arent realized or something that talks about paperloss. Its up to yours which method you would be using because each trader or investor does have their own approach
when it comes to things.
The most important thing to consider out is on applying that risk management most of the time on which it would really be that helpful when it comes to various situations specially talking about
dealing with this very volatile market. This isnt something that you could just simply neglect and dont mind about your management on how to deal with up.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: bitterguy28 on June 07, 2023, 11:21:23 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
While you have a good list of review yet? There is no assurance of earning completely meaning that we only lessen the risk of losing which meand some of those risk taker are making their decision to risk bug but to earn bigger.
It is a simple way of showing that this market is risky but worth a try.

Anyway thanks for the advices though it has been told many times before.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: shinratensei_ on June 07, 2023, 11:51:41 PM
with refined strategy i think someone would be more decisive in creating their decision and reacting towards the market.
the strategy that you mentioned are all good but it seems that there are many details that gone missing, like most of them are indeed some scenario that gonna be getting realized if one jumping into some trading and investing career, but also there are some preventive measurements, like making an entry while the coin only has gone down massively helps you greatly in avoiding future dumpings if the coin were to make some recovery.
such strategy is essential if you truly wanna score some good profit after all by having good entry in the first place, you are already destined to make some profit in the long run.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: wxa7115 on June 08, 2023, 01:48:31 AM
A stop loss is a type of strategy, specifically a risk management strategy. However, it is crucial to be highly efficient in implementing such a strategy because our goal in trading is not merely to minimize losses, but to maximize profits. Personally, I would rather risk losing everything than remain in a prolonged trade that remains unprofitable.
I would prefer minimising the loss over the profits so it depends on every traders but the conservative strategy is minimal risk and whatever the profit is. I don't understand why we need to risk everything when we are unprofitable for a long time, I will just out it on HODL until it makes profits than decision to sell for huge loss for our capital.
And this is the right approach, very often traders only think about the positive side of trading but without a doubt the most important aspect by far is the negative one, meaning we have to protect our capital at all costs, after all any profit is better than any loss.

But traders rarely think on this way, which causes them to take too many risks and lose so much money that regardless of their skill level recovering the money they have lost becomes an impossible mission.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: noormcs5 on June 08, 2023, 04:52:47 AM
with refined strategy i think someone would be more decisive in creating their decision and reacting towards the market.
the strategy that you mentioned are all good but it seems that there are many details that gone missing, like most of them are indeed some scenario that gonna be getting realized if one jumping into some trading and investing career, but also there are some preventive measurements, like making an entry while the coin only has gone down massively helps you greatly in avoiding future dumpings if the coin were to make some recovery.
such strategy is essential if you truly wanna score some good profit after all by having good entry in the first place, you are already destined to make some profit in the long run.

No matter how good or bad a trader you are if you are not doing the risk management then it will be very difficult for anyone to survive in this trading financial market.

No matter you are a future trader or a spot trader, a swing trader, or a day trader, in every kind of trading risk management plays a very important role. You should know how much percentage of your portfolio you should risk at one trade so that in case the trade goes in loss and not according to your trading plan, you do not lose majority of your portfolio.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: omgitsmehehe on June 08, 2023, 05:01:20 AM
You're just giving a common advice, everyone already know it.

You should explain about the spot trading, future trading, and margin trading, then compare to each other and how to mitigate risk of each of them.

Don't forget about how much the stop loss someone need to place, does it's -5% of the price you bought? -10%, -20% etc.

People who're not a trader already learn about only use what you can afford to lose.
Losing is normal thing in the market,  no onne will criticize you for losing, because even the pro traders records loss on their accounts.  Diversify into trading categories, spot trades which is more simpler than future trade, but future consider the oil well of generating profits in crypto. I will also push into talking about ways to avoid losses, which leads us directly to risk management, it teaches us everything concerning the basic necessities we need to implement inother to reduces our losses. It have kept me going for years in the space, and I don't regret any bit of understanding my risk management, adapting to it and practicing it.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Fuso.hp on June 08, 2023, 06:17:53 AM
Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
Yes I also think we don't need to risk much money in the first place. We should take less risk than we can afford. Because the risk of excess money can bring bad things for you. And those of us who think that we can make profit only by trading, thinking about the amount of money we have and managing some more money, should be careful because trading will never guarantee you profit.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Mpamaegbu on June 08, 2023, 12:50:02 PM
Focus on the risk not rewards.
Both go together. We can't divorce one from the other. Let me digress a little here and throw in knowledge of picking entries in Forex trading in relation to RR – Risk and Reward. Part of managing risk is to compare the RR  ratio before triggering any trades. To get a near perfect entry, it's ideal that the reward be higher than the risk. Otherwise, the trade should be skipped. For instance, one makes it a Risk 25 pips in SL to Reward 40–50 (or more) pips in TP. For me, even in cryptos, I focus more on the reward. Something should entice me going into a trade, and certainly that thing isn't "Risk" but reward/profit.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Franctoshi on June 08, 2023, 04:08:42 PM
You may have the best profitable strategy and if you neglect your risk management, You definitely gonna end up getting screwed. Risk management is a very important aspect of our trading journey that we should take very serious before considering taking any trade, because managing of risks will keep you continue going in the trading business. From my personal experience some of the times I have tried doing more than I should do , basically not taking care of my risks, only me knew the price I paid for it.
Never you think that you can outsmart the market.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Oilacris on June 08, 2023, 08:56:50 PM
You're just giving a common advice, everyone already know it.

You should explain about the spot trading, future trading, and margin trading, then compare to each other and how to mitigate risk of each of them.

Don't forget about how much the stop loss someone need to place, does it's -5% of the price you bought? -10%, -20% etc.

People who're not a trader already learn about only use what you can afford to lose.
Losing is normal thing in the market,  no onne will criticize you for losing, because even the pro traders records loss on their accounts.  Diversify into trading categories, spot trades which is more simpler than future trade, but future consider the oil well of generating profits in crypto. I will also push into talking about ways to avoid losses, which leads us directly to risk management, it teaches us everything concerning the basic necessities we need to implement inother to reduces our losses. It have kept me going for years in the space, and I don't regret any bit of understanding my risk management, adapting to it and practicing it.
There's no such thing about being a perfect trader on which it would really be just that normal that you would really be having those losses but what matter most on here is that you should really know

on how to handle up those losses and would be minding about applying plan B's, which is something that you would really be needing to apply for you to have that possible recovery in case you have
lost up a certain trade. Risks management and other actions made would really be entirely be depending on someone because not all would really be that good when it comes to this kind of handling
on which if you arent really that good then you would really be that susceptible into blown out trading account.

You would really be needing that risks management because if you dont then you would definitely really be having that problem when it comes to profitability on which you cant be able
to control out your losses and might be ending up on having that gambler like mind and actions been made on.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: justdimin on June 09, 2023, 01:35:30 PM
You may have the best profitable strategy and if you neglect your risk management, You definitely gonna end up getting screwed. Risk management is a very important aspect of our trading journey that we should take very serious before considering taking any trade, because managing of risks will keep you continue going in the trading business. From my personal experience some of the times I have tried doing more than I should do , basically not taking care of my risks, only me knew the price I paid for it.
Never you think that you can outsmart the market.
Such a true word, that is definitely the case without a doubt and that must be how it is most of the time. I believe that people are acting as if they are going to make something that matters but the reality is that strategy is only half of the topic. If you are not careful and if you are missing even one small thing, then you are going to take a lot more risk then you should.

This is why it's important to just focus on what you can do with what you have and not what you do not have. I know that people are focusing a lot more on making profit side, but they should start looking into not making a loss side as well. When you focus too much on the profit, you will not know what to do when the loss occurs and that will bankrupt all of your portfolio, always be ready for anything.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Nrcewker on June 09, 2023, 05:06:02 PM
Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
Yes I also think we don't need to risk much money in the first place. We should take less risk than we can afford. Because the risk of excess money can bring bad things for you. And those of us who think that we can make profit only by trading, thinking about the amount of money we have and managing some more money, should be careful because trading will never guarantee you profit.

First we should make sure that we don’t make any losses. If at the beginning we think about profits, then there is huge possibilities that we end up making losses. If instead of this, we try to focus on how to not get loss, then definitely this will slowly turn this into profits. And as we know, the less risk we take, the less profits also we get. So accordingly manage the risk according to our needs. Always trade the amount that you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: ShowOff on June 09, 2023, 06:42:04 PM
First we should make sure that we don’t make any losses.

No matter how skilled you are at trading, I think it is difficult. Unless you don't trade.

If at the beginning we think about profits, then there is huge possibilities that we end up making losses. If instead of this, we try to focus on how to not get loss, then definitely this will slowly turn this into profits. And as we know, the less risk we take, the less profits also we get. So accordingly manage the risk according to our needs. Always trade the amount that you can afford to lose.

I somewhat disagree with the points above. You must have profit target which is then set as a take profit. This must be planned from the start because you must have a plan for when to exit a trade and take profits. I agree profit is not as easy as it seems, but expecting profit from trading is fair. I trade for profit, so I think about how I do it to make a profit.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: justdimin on June 10, 2023, 12:34:40 PM
Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
Yes I also think we don't need to risk much money in the first place. We should take less risk than we can afford. Because the risk of excess money can bring bad things for you. And those of us who think that we can make profit only by trading, thinking about the amount of money we have and managing some more money, should be careful because trading will never guarantee you profit.
First we should make sure that we don’t make any losses. If at the beginning we think about profits, then there is huge possibilities that we end up making losses. If instead of this, we try to focus on how to not get loss, then definitely this will slowly turn this into profits. And as we know, the less risk we take, the less profits also we get. So accordingly manage the risk according to our needs. Always trade the amount that you can afford to lose.
I think taking a risk is a good thing in the crypto market but that depends on how much risk you are taking. Buying pepe instead of bitcoin is a risk, is it a good risk? I do not think so, buying bitcoin with all you have is a risk, but does it worth not being able to pay your bills? I do not think so.

When you are taking a risk, you always need to consider what could go wrong and that's the most important part, some people take risks and they do fine, some people take risks and they do terribly and I feel like that's the risk management we are talking about. Manage your risks to a level where it is not that terrible, if you are doing fine then you should be doing fine but if you are not doing fine then it will not be an easy thing at all.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Hypnosis00 on June 10, 2023, 12:49:44 PM
Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
Yes I also think we don't need to risk much money in the first place. We should take less risk than we can afford. Because the risk of excess money can bring bad things for you. And those of us who think that we can make profit only by trading, thinking about the amount of money we have and managing some more money, should be careful because trading will never guarantee you profit.
We can't eliminate risk in trading, that was the reality. If we plan to go trading, make sure that we are preferred to face huge risks. I was thinking about this saying "Huge risk = huge rewards" but it was too opposite from what we want instead, we are looking for Less Risk but huge rewards. That is why only a few people succeed in trading as they can't accept the challenge and manage to handle stress. As we can see, many traders quit and become holders, but that was a good escape rather than leaving crypto forever.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: CarnagexD on June 13, 2023, 05:08:01 AM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

Use stop-loss as your major determinator of risk and take profit as your determinator of possible reward. If there is any case that you can take profit partially, do so. That will make you at least in ease because you realize a part of the profit. Then you put your stop loss to break even (depending on your type of trading).

Just remember that if you are a beginner trader, your number one focus must be to protect your capital by way of proper risk management and gaining a lot of experience trading. Preferably that experience would be for a year. Over that experience, you will encounter losses and moments of drawdown and that risk management is your shield to protect your equity.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Inwestour on June 13, 2023, 10:57:49 AM
We can't eliminate risk in trading, that was the reality. If we plan to go trading, make sure that we are preferred to face huge risks. I was thinking about this saying "Huge risk = huge rewards" but it was too opposite from what we want instead, we are looking for Less Risk but huge rewards. That is why only a few people succeed in trading as they can't accept the challenge and manage to handle stress. As we can see, many traders quit and become holders, but that was a good escape rather than leaving crypto forever.
Because there are significantly more successful people among holders than among traders. I am fascinated by the stories of successful traders, but they all went through a difficult path, when they had to lose a lot of money, it's too much stress.

The hold eliminates this, just as the hold can forgive a lot of mistakes for which trading will take everything away. Until now, even those holders who could make a mistake with the entry point have been able to profit in the new bull market, and I suspect that this will also be the case in the upcoming bull market. But if you determine the entry point well, then the profit will be significantly better.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: palle11 on June 13, 2023, 12:02:20 PM

I was thinking about this saying "Huge risk = huge rewards" but it was too opposite from what we want instead, we are looking for Less Risk but huge rewards. That is why only a few people succeed in trading as they can't accept the challenge and manage to handle stress. As we can see, many traders quit and become holders, but that was a good escape rather than leaving crypto forever.

Risk is not eliminated in trading but it is reduced when we use proper risk management. Agreed that some people have left trading to hodling and that is basically because of the trading mentality of profiting 100% without thinking of losing so they losing but having in mind that it is less risk and huge profit. Market trading can not be without risk and losses and it is better setting your loss limit.  One important factor of stop loss is it stops you from losing all your capital.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: kojektea on June 13, 2023, 03:45:54 PM
very important thing, especially when we already have wealth. if it is to maintain assets even survive in a negative market. risk and asset management is needed to minimize losses received when investing. this is not easy, we have to be really thorough, and it's usually easier to understand directly learning from experience than having to take courses. khurus has too many theories, while we need one theory but it's really applied right away because that's why we learn from experience.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Blowon on June 13, 2023, 05:06:52 PM
Risk management in investing is very important because it involves identifying, analyzing and managing the risks associated with investment decisions. The main objective of risk management is to protect capital, minimize losses, and increase the chances of long-term investment success.

In the investment context, risk refers to the possibility of loss or an unwanted change in the value of an investment. Every investment has inherent risks related to factors such as market fluctuations, economic changes, government regulations or unforeseen events. By understanding and managing these risks, investors can reduce their negative impact and increase the chances of investment success.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Litzki1990 on June 13, 2023, 05:41:40 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
There are pros and cons to stop loss in scripto trading. For example, when you trade a coin at a certain price, you can place a stop loss at a certain price to avoid the risk of losing your entire money. When it falls too much and when the market reaches your fixed price, your trade will automatically be canceled. The problem here is that the money you lose is not recoverable, but if you don't use stop loss, even if the coin's price drops too much. There is a possibility of profit again.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: MFahad on June 13, 2023, 06:44:04 PM
People often think about profit but the actual thing is to identify the risk and work to decrease it. This is true that if a person realize that getting profit is hard for him then stop putting money will be better because desire for making more money and recover your losses money will become a cause of your bad addict. I think just 10 percent of your money will be enough to start trading or investment and don't increase the amount after success because success is not easy always so get the benefit and utlize some portion for future success.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Fatunad on June 13, 2023, 10:59:25 PM
People often think about profit but the actual thing is to identify the risk and work to decrease it. This is true that if a person realize that getting profit is hard for him then stop putting money will be better because desire for making more money and recover your losses money will become a cause of your bad addict. I think just 10 percent of your money will be enough to start trading or investment and don't increase the amount after success because success is not easy always so get the benefit and utlize some portion for future success.
When people do mainly think about those advanced things on which they do really believe that making money is easy then they would mainly be forgotten on following some risk management rules. The only time that they would really be doing such assignment on the time that they would experience up such losses and not into that before on which it is really that a mistake on doing so. Whenever we do touch up something like
needing up money or needing up some investment then we should really be mindful about those plans and proper preparation when it comes on how money should be spent and on how you would be handling up
yourself on such market specially when dealing up with a volatile and unpredictable market. Trading is never been that simple or something that you do just put up such position then leave it and make it
profitable, thats not how it works.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: wxa7115 on June 14, 2023, 12:29:17 AM
People often think about profit but the actual thing is to identify the risk and work to decrease it. This is true that if a person realize that getting profit is hard for him then stop putting money will be better because desire for making more money and recover your losses money will become a cause of your bad addict. I think just 10 percent of your money will be enough to start trading or investment and don't increase the amount after success because success is not easy always so get the benefit and utlize some portion for future success.
Traders often find themselves in a difficult position, on one hand they want to limit their exposure to the markets and reduce the potential losses they can suffer, on the other hand they need to increase their position size so they can maximize their profits.

So there is a sweet spot they need to hit in which the amount of money they use on each trade is neither too big or too small, and this is a balance that is difficult to hit, but with enough experience and skill you will be able to hit such spot more often and get the best of both worlds.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Xinarae* on June 14, 2023, 01:51:31 AM
If you don't manage your risk management properly, you will never be successful because risk management is the most important aspect of trading. But my personal experience is a little different in that you have to learn how to manage all your money very well. There are many people who want to do good things but there are so many wrong decisions in money and life management that they can't get good results despite their efforts.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Inwestour on June 14, 2023, 11:10:31 AM
Traders often find themselves in a difficult position, on one hand they want to limit their exposure to the markets and reduce the potential losses they can suffer, on the other hand they need to increase their position size so they can maximize their profits.

So there is a sweet spot they need to hit in which the amount of money they use on each trade is neither too big or too small, and this is a balance that is difficult to hit, but with enough experience and skill you will be able to hit such spot more often and get the best of both worlds.
The more capital you have, the more opportunities you have. It is difficult for novice traders at first, but this is how they get used to money, if a trader is successful, he will increase his funds, perhaps at first he will trade the equivalent of hundreds of dollars, then thousands, and so on.

If the strategy works for small amounts, then most likely it will work for big money. And there will already be an important point, as far as the trader is ready for big money, not everyone can equally handle good with big money, as small ones.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on June 14, 2023, 04:07:08 PM
If you don't manage your risk management properly, you will never be successful because risk management is the most important aspect of trading. But my personal experience is a little different in that you have to learn how to manage all your money very well. There are many people who want to do good things but there are so many wrong decisions in money and life management that they can't get good results despite their efforts.
As traders, there is an amount of money we are comfortable losing and there are some we just can afford to lose. The most important things I learned from risk management are risk tolerance which refer to the amount of money you are willing to risk on one specific trade. Then, I also learned which is followed from the first is how to effectively and correctly initiate stop loss orders to prevent losses. Lastly, learning how to calculate my position size very quickly. Any newbie who can get a grasps on these strategies and be able to implement it, they are sure to have a good trading journey.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Mahanton on June 14, 2023, 11:47:43 PM
Traders often find themselves in a difficult position, on one hand they want to limit their exposure to the markets and reduce the potential losses they can suffer, on the other hand they need to increase their position size so they can maximize their profits.

So there is a sweet spot they need to hit in which the amount of money they use on each trade is neither too big or too small, and this is a balance that is difficult to hit, but with enough experience and skill you will be able to hit such spot more often and get the best of both worlds.
The more capital you have, the more opportunities you have. It is difficult for novice traders at first, but this is how they get used to money, if a trader is successful, he will increase his funds, perhaps at first he will trade the equivalent of hundreds of dollars, then thousands, and so on.

If the strategy works for small amounts, then most likely it will work for big money. And there will already be an important point, as far as the trader is ready for big money, not everyone can equally handle good with big money, as small ones.
Whatever things you've been dealing with and in speaking about having a risks then it would really be just that normal that you would really be having that risks management. You cant really just make out some careless decisions or making out some actions without any basis because this is really that pure gambling. You should  really know on how to manage up your funds so that you would really be able to utilize it as efficient as it should be. You cant really be that too careless on making decisions specially if this one is attached on investment on which money is really in talks. On the time that you wouldn't really be that too mindful about
this particular step then you would really be finding yourself in huge losses instead of gains and this is something that we should really be avoiding. As much as you could then always follow up those
basic principles on how investment should really be handled out.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: savetheFORUM on June 15, 2023, 12:08:50 PM
It should be understood that risk management is a very difficult task. From my own experience I can say that it is difficult to pick up and learn. This usually takes quite a bit of time and effort.
No matter how much time and effort it takes or how difficult it is, one must learn risk management to be a successful trader because there can be good trades and there can be bad trades, when a trade goes well, that is all well, but when a trade goes bad, that is where risk management techniques come handy and can save you from suffering from extreme losses.

Someone who doesn't apply risk management methods to their trades is more likely to lose money than someone who does it, having stop-loss for every trade can always save you from getting liquidated or having your capital stuck in one trade.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: safar1980 on June 15, 2023, 01:18:26 PM
If you want to reduce risks, then you need to not participate in risky trading transactions on the crypto exchange and understand the consequences of risky transactions.
But in less risky trades, there is little profit and a lot of time spent on trading. Classic traders do not use more than 3% of capital for risky trading, and those who use more than 5% for this are already trading incorrectly.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Zilon on June 15, 2023, 03:03:49 PM
_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
The use of stop loss may not be profitable to scalpers. Especially when the join a trade that is about to retrace unknown to them and it triggers their stoploss before moving in the main direction. Stop loss is best practice for day traders or position traders for scalpers they just have to monitor their trades and be disciplined enough to know the exact amount they are willing to lose from a trade and them take their profit and loss decision based on that.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Quidat on June 15, 2023, 10:59:33 PM
It should be understood that risk management is a very difficult task. From my own experience I can say that it is difficult to pick up and learn. This usually takes quite a bit of time and effort.
No matter how much time and effort it takes or how difficult it is, one must learn risk management to be a successful trader because there can be good trades and there can be bad trades, when a trade goes well, that is all well, but when a trade goes bad, that is where risk management techniques come handy and can save you from suffering from extreme losses.

Someone who doesn't apply risk management methods to their trades is more likely to lose money than someone who does it, having stop-loss for every trade can always save you from getting liquidated or having your capital stuck in one trade.
You would really be learning that risk management along the way if you have none with your current standing or investing behavior on which those losses and errors would really make you realize that you must really be setting out that limit line which is something that you would really be needing on this kind of career. You cant really be having that gambler like kind of behavior on where you do go all in with your buying or selling positions on which it would really be just resulting into devastation. Risk management is really that  very crucial not only on trading but also in other investments and businesses as well on which you are really that engaging into it. You should really be sensible on doing such stuff because if you dont then losses would really be keeping on piling up.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Crypto5060 on June 16, 2023, 03:45:01 PM
Trading can be rewarding if you master how to manage your risk, knowing the percentage of your money you are willing to lose at a time and maintaining it consistently.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: pawanjain on June 16, 2023, 05:03:37 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

The third point you mentioned is the most critical one and this is where most of make the mistake.
We forget to take the profits and keep waiting for more profits in greed.
We don't realize that the profits are diminishing and end up selling in a loss.
We don't use stoploss because we want to give room to the trade and end up losing more than our risk.

The solution is to make stop loss and take profit a habit and use them in all the trades.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Hamza2424 on June 16, 2023, 05:28:28 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

One of my favorite topics is trading. I would like to start my point of view with a golden principle in trading you can relate to risk management "Not losing is also profit taking". So Risk management is under your strategy skills, in a few words you can say ABC "Always Be Careful" you have to manage your trade for the risk management on a basic level, if we start moving from there to some advanced level first thing is Stop loss, then Take profit. In my view, if a person holds a strong grip on these terms he is one good trader because it covers a lot of terms in trading as risk management, emotion control, Confident (I think this I partial emotion) etc etc.

Op your title is itself a Book and your content from that point is too miniature, 1 = Funds Control (Management), 2 = Risk Identification 3=  Actions As you've mentioned these terms can be considered as one of the base classes in Riskmanagemnt Iw ould like to add more phases in between there.


⚫  Risk Assessment (After Identification)
⚫  Risk Mitigation (Before Action).
⚫  Risk Tolerance (Before Action & After Mitigraition)
⚫  Risk Review  (After Mitigation and Monitoring).
⚫  Risk Avoidance (Advanced Analysis).

You can that this is your Intelligence support. Hope so I have added something new to your database  ;) ;)

-Hamza


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: bangjoe on June 16, 2023, 06:34:37 PM
Risk management in investing is very important because it involves identifying, analyzing and managing the risks associated with investment decisions. The main objective of risk management is to protect capital, minimize losses, and increase the chances of long-term investment success.

In the investment context, risk refers to the possibility of loss or an unwanted change in the value of an investment. Every investment has inherent risks related to factors such as market fluctuations, economic changes, government regulations or unforeseen events. By understanding and managing these risks, investors can reduce their negative impact and increase the chances of investment success.
And indeed risk management is useful for detecting probability of predictions of fluctuations and security of financial flow, so that it has a fairly mature consideration and honestly risk management is a form of anticipatory attitude in the situation where we understand how much loss will be obtained if it is not in accordance with the calculation. And that is very important in the mentality of trade, so we have a limit to something that we cannot lose.

I think it is more to the learning step about news sentiments before deciding risk taking, it also needs to be considered and calculate the possibility of making investment decisions, the factors that affect market prices besides technical calculations need to be read and pay attention to decide the risk taker at trading that we will do.


When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
There are pros and cons to stop loss in scripto trading. For example, when you trade a coin at a certain price, you can place a stop loss at a certain price to avoid the risk of losing your entire money. When it falls too much and when the market reaches your fixed price, your trade will automatically be canceled. The problem here is that the money you lose is not recoverable, but if you don't use stop loss, even if the coin's price drops too much. There is a possibility of profit again.
I think it depends on what coins you buy, if the coin you buy has a probability to turn the situation in the next time, the stop loss decision you don't need to take at the time of decline, but if you find a coin that has no power, maintaining it is also an action Stupid and you can lose all the money, which you actually stop it before.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: borovichok on June 19, 2023, 12:58:12 AM
If you want to reduce risks, then you need to not participate in risky trading transactions on the crypto exchange and understand the consequences of risky transactions.
But in less risky trades, there is little profit and a lot of time spent on trading. Classic traders do not use more than 3% of capital for risky trading, and those who use more than 5% for this are already trading incorrectly.
We trade in order to profit from the market's prospective, and I have no doubt that not all traders have settled scores with their risk management. Some greedy traders are always looking to acquire everything, but they forget that things don't always go as planned in the space; the market has a way of shocking everyone who is expecting much more, especially addicts. Risk management governs our trades and compels us to consider how much we are willing to lose and gain. Knowing both is a delicate balance, and the risks are well worth it.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: justdimin on June 19, 2023, 01:21:10 PM
I was thinking about this saying "Huge risk = huge rewards" but it was too opposite from what we want instead, we are looking for Less Risk but huge rewards. That is why only a few people succeed in trading as they can't accept the challenge and manage to handle stress. As we can see, many traders quit and become holders, but that was a good escape rather than leaving crypto forever.
Risk is not eliminated in trading but it is reduced when we use proper risk management. Agreed that some people have left trading to hodling and that is basically because of the trading mentality of profiting 100% without thinking of losing so they losing but having in mind that it is less risk and huge profit. Market trading can not be without risk and losses and it is better setting your loss limit.  One important factor of stop loss is it stops you from losing all your capital.
I am one of those people, I left trading and I became a long term holder, that's a lot better for me and so far I have made better returns that way as well. Trading is something that requires studying, learning, a lot of indicators, chart reading technical analysis and many other stuff along with a lot of news, some of them bad and make it go down and all these matters and you need to be great at it in order to be a good trader that makes profits.

What makes a good long term holder? Literally just forgetting that you invested, we heard all those news "guy invests into bitcoin 10 years ago, forgets about it, founds his keys and suddenly a millionaire!" well that's it, that's a long term holder, involuntary long term holder but that's all you gotta do.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: sana54210 on June 20, 2023, 04:15:09 AM
As traders, there is an amount of money we are comfortable losing and there are some we just can afford to lose. The most important things I learned from risk management are risk tolerance which refer to the amount of money you are willing to risk on one specific trade. Then, I also learned which is followed from the first is how to effectively and correctly initiate stop loss orders to prevent losses. Lastly, learning how to calculate my position size very quickly. Any newbie who can get a grasps on these strategies and be able to implement it, they are sure to have a good trading journey.
I think you should be trading with the money you are  comfortable using to begin with. ALL the money you have on any given time at the exchanges should be money you are willing to lose. Either because it would be smart since exchanges could get "hacked" or just scam or even have legal troubles, or it would be smart because you could trade and lose it as well.

I believe that it would be a smart decision that you could end up making a big deal out of this, and should be remembering what to do, I believe that we could be doing something that benefits you if you could just use money you can lose. Not just some part of your budget that you can lose and not care, but all of it that you can lose and not worry about what to eat tomorrow, that's how it should be done.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: irhact on June 20, 2023, 05:33:01 AM
The use of stop loss may not be profitable to scalpers. Especially when the join a trade that is about to retrace unknown to them and it triggers their stoploss before moving in the main direction. Stop loss is best practice for day traders or position traders for scalpers they just have to monitor their trades and be disciplined enough to know the exact amount they are willing to lose from a trade and them take their profit and loss decision based on that.

When you're actively trading and monitoring the market, you don't need to have a stop loss in your trade. Stop loss are only needed when you'll not be actively monitoring the market. The stop loss helps you end a trade before it starts giving you losses. Stop loss can also put you in losses when it gets triggered before the market reverse and continue pumping. Stop loss should always be adjusted so your order don't end in losses.

Risk management when trading is very important, without it you'll lose all your money. The very first risk management I knew was not to invest more than you can lose into the market. Then always take profits while trading, don't be greedy or you'll regret making that decision.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Inwestour on June 20, 2023, 12:41:32 PM
I think you should be trading with the money you are  comfortable using to begin with. ALL the money you have on any given time at the exchanges should be money you are willing to lose. Either because it would be smart since exchanges could get "hacked" or just scam or even have legal troubles, or it would be smart because you could trade and lose it as well.
If I am not a day trader, then I do not have to keep my coins on the exchange all the time, I can deposit money on the exchange, buy coins and withdraw them to my wallet. This should eliminate the risks that you are talking about and it gives you the opportunity to trade not only with money that I are ready to lose.

I believe that it would be a smart decision that you could end up making a big deal out of this, and should be remembering what to do, I believe that we could be doing something that benefits you if you could just use money you can lose. Not just some part of your budget that you can lose and not care, but all of it that you can lose and not worry about what to eat tomorrow, that's how it should be done.
I very often see when someone says that it is worth trading, or investing only the money that you are ready to lose. But do you really believe that something can come of it, do you believe that it can be enough to achieve good results in trading, or investing?

Maybe it all depends on financial capabilities, and someone can lose a lot of money without much damage, but it seems to me that for the most of users here, the amount they are willing to lose is quite insignificant. And in order to achieve tangible results, it is worth taking certain risks, otherwise nothing will work.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: TheGreatPython on June 21, 2023, 06:09:10 AM
If you want to reduce risks, then you need to not participate in risky trading transactions on the crypto exchange and understand the consequences of risky transactions.
But in less risky trades, there is little profit and a lot of time spent on trading. Classic traders do not use more than 3% of capital for risky trading, and those who use more than 5% for this are already trading incorrectly.
We trade in order to profit from the market's prospective, and I have no doubt that not all traders have settled scores with their risk management. Some greedy traders are always looking to acquire everything, but they forget that things don't always go as planned in the space; the market has a way of shocking everyone who is expecting much more, especially addicts. Risk management governs our trades and compels us to consider how much we are willing to lose and gain. Knowing both is a delicate balance, and the risks are well worth it.
Patience and consistency are the most important aspects and one should have these two if they want to be successful in cryptocurrency trading. Greed is something that will always take you towards the negative, when you need to close a trade and take a profit, your greed will stop you and tells you that you can gain more from it, and if you listen to it, your trade will most probably go into negative and you lose the profit along with a part of your invested capital.

In very rare cases, you might get more profits if you don't sell at your target price, but it is not recommended at all. You should always sell when the target is reached, especially if you are trading in altcoins because they move so quickly and if they can go up quickly, they can come down at the same pace as well.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Lida93 on June 21, 2023, 10:18:12 AM

 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
Focusing on both risk and reward would be more safer as you would have to weigh your reward against the risk am to incur. Focusing only on the risk could make you lose sight of the size of the reward you're taking the risk for, thereby  taking risk that doesn't match your potential reward.
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_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
For a trader with a little amount setting up a SL and TP is very sacrosanct in managing and minimizing your supposed loss that could clean up your account.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: RewFrew on June 22, 2023, 04:33:44 AM
Yes Risk management is very important for crypto trading. Without proper knowledge about risk management there has huge possibility to loss our valuable fund. I think we have to follow some things to trade to avoid loss Fund like

* Never we use all fund at a time in trade.
* Never we will Crazy in trade.
* We have to avoid greedy.
* Always use stop loss and take profit.
* Never trade opposite of market train.
* And we have to cool when we trade

I think if we follow that's we will capable to reduce risk. To avoid loss our valuable fund we have to do proper risk management. Otherwise we loss our valuable fund.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: ItsCrafty on June 22, 2023, 06:12:46 AM

We trade in order to profit from the market's prospective, and I have no doubt that not all traders have settled scores with their risk management. Some greedy traders are always looking to acquire everything, but they forget that things don't always go as planned in the space; the market has a way of shocking everyone who is expecting much more, especially addicts. Risk management governs our trades and compels us to consider how much we are willing to lose and gain. Knowing both is a delicate balance, and the risks are well worth it.


I agreed with your described fact.I think that Risk management in trading cryptocurrency involves implementing strategies to moderate potential losses and protect your investments. Many traders diversify their portfolio by investing in a range of cryptocurrencies to reduce the impact of any single asset's volatility. Setting the t stop-loss orders helps limit losses by automatically selling an asset when it reaches on the predetermined price or level. It also depends upon the implementation of your technical strategy and proper position sizing techniques ensures that no single trade carries too much risk. Additionally, you can reduce certain possible risks by keeping an eye on market trends, news, and technical indicators. Effective risk management in cryptocurrency trading requires a systematic strategy, exhaustive research, and ongoing oversight.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 23, 2023, 07:36:18 PM

We trade in order to profit from the market's prospective, and I have no doubt that not all traders have settled scores with their risk management. Some greedy traders are always looking to acquire everything, but they forget that things don't always go as planned in the space; the market has a way of shocking everyone who is expecting much more, especially addicts. Risk management governs our trades and compels us to consider how much we are willing to lose and gain. Knowing both is a delicate balance, and the risks are well worth it.


I agreed with your described fact.I think that Risk management in trading cryptocurrency involves implementing strategies to moderate potential losses and protect your investments. Many traders diversify their portfolio by investing in a range of cryptocurrencies to reduce the impact of any single asset's volatility. Setting the t stop-loss orders helps limit losses by automatically selling an asset when it reaches on the predetermined price or level. It also depends upon the implementation of your technical strategy and proper position sizing techniques ensures that no single trade carries too much risk. Additionally, you can reduce certain possible risks by keeping an eye on market trends, news, and technical indicators. Effective risk management in cryptocurrency trading requires a systematic strategy, exhaustive research, and ongoing oversight.
One of the most important things that you should have when dealing up with this unpredictable market or simply dealing up with investment on which it would really be normal on having that kind of approach

when it comes on having that risks management. We are putting and risking our money on here on which it would really be just that normal because if you dont have this thing then you would most likely or guaranteed on losing money on a phase which is really just that too much compared to those who did their assignment on learning up those things which needs to be avoid.
It would be normal on having that kind of excitement on certain things specially on making money but we shouldnt really forget on what are the steps needed for you to do
for you to be able to sustain up on this market situation.

You cant just simply make out positions without having considerations because it would really be that resulting into a non good looking result or path you would be ended up into.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Bitcoin_people on June 24, 2023, 02:54:28 AM
It is very important to be aware of risk management while trading but we do not lose when we trade. We cannot know for sure when the market will go in which direction. But there are many people who are more interested in investing than trading and investment risk is less. But there are many people who do not know about the risk but invest and later they lose. Investing with less risk is definitely possible to achieve success in future but it will not be quick but takes time. And if a person dreams of getting rich very quickly, then there is definitely a risk of losing money. Therefore, to be successful in trading, you must adopt different strategies, then it is possible to reach a good level. And if you invest, definitely invest the amount of money you can afford to lose There will be no risk.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: lunnatic on June 24, 2023, 03:24:47 AM

We trade in order to profit from the market's prospective, and I have no doubt that not all traders have settled scores with their risk management. Some greedy traders are always looking to acquire everything, but they forget that things don't always go as planned in the space; the market has a way of shocking everyone who is expecting much more, especially addicts. Risk management governs our trades and compels us to consider how much we are willing to lose and gain. Knowing both is a delicate balance, and the risks are well worth it.


I agreed with your described fact.I think that Risk management in trading cryptocurrency involves implementing strategies to moderate potential losses and protect your investments. Many traders diversify their portfolio by investing in a range of cryptocurrencies to reduce the impact of any single asset's volatility. Setting the t stop-loss orders helps limit losses by automatically selling an asset when it reaches on the predetermined price or level. It also depends upon the implementation of your technical strategy and proper position sizing techniques ensures that no single trade carries too much risk. Additionally, you can reduce certain possible risks by keeping an eye on market trends, news, and technical indicators. Effective risk management in cryptocurrency trading requires a systematic strategy, exhaustive research, and ongoing oversight.
Yes implementing risk management is indeed very important but on the other hand it is not that easy either,
with risk management we can manage risk,
trading in crypto is very risky and if you do nothing it is easy to lose money.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Patrol69 on June 24, 2023, 05:08:40 AM
I think one should never take excessive risk while trading. We should always maintain our financial risk. You should keep a certain amount of security with yourself and then start trading. So that you can give a support to the trading money from your securitized money if there is a possibility of the money getting damaged later. And trading with that amount of money should be done even if trading with that amount of money is damaged in that trading so that it does not have any bad effect on our life. Adequate understanding of trading and proper timing should be followed by trading. Choosing the right coin is very important in trading so we need to choose the right coin first.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: tygeade on June 26, 2023, 04:12:49 AM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
I think managing the risk part is not something newbies look at closely, and they totally should. They take more risk than a veteran and that's a terrible thing because they should be doing a lot better in that regard, if they are taking more risk without as much experience then it will be a loss in the end. Obviously they do not take it seriously and since they are newbies they think they are not taking too much risk when in fact they are taking it.

This is why it is quite important to be careful. I personally take as little risk as possible in the crypto world even though I have been here for over 10 years now. Because, it is hard to make money here, but it is very easy to lose it so I better be careful. I suggest the same mindset to all the newbies who think they are taking very little risk, you can take even less.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Woodie on June 26, 2023, 04:55:35 AM
Besides the take profits,  the use of a stop loss and the alike, I think the use of break even techniques can also be considered as a risk management strategy...as you employ  the use of both stoploss and take profits in it, except here we are moving the stop loss to entry whenever price moves a certain distance say for example 1:1 so that our trade remains risk free and our profits could either be more when chasing the higher targets or price will take us out without losing a dime.

I think one should never take excessive risk while trading.
Especially if leverage is to be considered,  this is definitely  something to always put into consideration which is why risking based on percentage is part of my gameplan...I only risk 0.5% to 1% per trade..though for small accounts my risk allowance doesn't look ideal.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: EarnOnVictor on June 26, 2023, 08:00:09 AM
The use of stop loss may not be profitable to scalpers. Especially when the join a trade that is about to retrace unknown to them and it triggers their stoploss before moving in the main direction. Stop loss is best practice for day traders or position traders for scalpers they just have to monitor their trades and be disciplined enough to know the exact amount they are willing to lose from a trade and them take their profit and loss decision based on that.

When you're actively trading and monitoring the market, you don't need to have a stop loss in your trade. Stop loss are only needed when you'll not be actively monitoring the market. The stop loss helps you end a trade before it starts giving you losses. Stop loss can also put you in losses when it gets triggered before the market reverse and continue pumping. Stop loss should always be adjusted so your order don't end in losses.

Risk management when trading is very important, without it you'll lose all your money. The very first risk management I knew was not to invest more than you can lose into the market. Then always take profits while trading, don't be greedy or you'll regret making that decision.
I guess you have a little experience with trading which is the only reason why you can be saying stop loss is not needed in it. Perhaps you are trading only Bitcoin and other slowly moving markets that might be active without threatening your account, you can't dare to do this with other asset classes. Many that I know had done trading this way before and they all regretted it, but trading markets like Bitcoin and Ethereum have made people feel that it's safe to leave their trades floating freely without protection simply because they are less risky, but this shouldn't be a general advice to trading as a whole. What if a dangerous and sharp market movement occurred?

Mind you, it's not everyone that would have the time be sitting and watching the chart all day long, and the best way to calculate your risk management is to have your accurate stop loss, nothing else.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: jasonjm on June 26, 2023, 08:00:52 AM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

The risk of losing your money in crypto investment/ trading is always there. Stop-lose is just one strategy that you could use to minimize losses.  First, you have to decide the amount of money you want to risk, and if you are a newbie then you should start from a small amount and diversify your portfolio.







Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: CarnagexD on June 26, 2023, 12:49:41 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.

Very well said. preserving your capital and not losing any percent of your benjamin is a win.

Yes Risk management is very important for crypto trading. Without proper knowledge about risk management there has huge possibility to loss our valuable fund. I think we have to follow some things to trade to avoid loss Fund like

* Never we use all fund at a time in trade.
* Never we will Crazy in trade.
* We have to avoid greedy.
* Always use stop loss and take profit.
* Never trade opposite of market train.
* And we have to cool when we trade

I think if we follow that's we will capable to reduce risk. To avoid loss our valuable fund we have to do proper risk management. Otherwise we loss our valuable fund.

This is easier said than done. We all know this as a trader. But how well can you follow your well-written risk management plan determines your result. It doesn't matter how much you know managing funds, it all lies down on how are you able to follow it. Not only that we have money or fund. We also have mental capital which we also preserve. If we lose this, we can't expect ourselves to perform well in front of the charts. It's not only the monetary value, but the psychological value of the risk involved.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Botnake on June 26, 2023, 01:00:14 PM
_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
I don't think this needs to be reminded anymore because everyone already knows that risk management must be done before playing in the market. However, does this idealism apply if you see a market rally in a relatively short time? Price fluctuations make traders more ambitious and unable to control the profit that has been targeted. It is true that we should make more money, but it will be more difficult for everyone to implement Stop Loss. Believe me, you are entering a trading area where the volume level is very high, so whatever the rules are, they are often forgotten.
Yes, having risk management is certainly a must but still newbies need to hear this more often so they won’t be mostly blinded by their greed, the only reason why they are very eager to trade and expect quick profits. However, I believe all traders are literally profit driven but we are using different strategies on how to achieve it. And when it comes to implementing stop loss, though most of us find it hard to follow especially if the price has still chances to grow and recover, but if we really aim to limit our losses and maximize our profits as much as possible, then we should stick to the rules even if most of us are already ignoring or forgotten it.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: macson on June 26, 2023, 05:05:52 PM
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_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
that's right, most traders who lose are those who prioritize profits (big capital then big profits), they don't realize that focusing on risk is more important

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.
always prioritize taking profits when you have made a profit (don't hold it too long) and always use a stop loss strategy when the asset value is decreasing by a few percent (don't hold it too long unless you are sure that the asset will increase in the future)

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
understanding that risk is the most important thing when trading, never underestimate it.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: irhact on June 26, 2023, 06:45:39 PM
I guess you have a little experience with trading which is the only reason why you can be saying stop loss is not needed in it. Perhaps you are trading only Bitcoin and other slowly moving markets that might be active without threatening your account, you can't dare to do this with other asset classes.

If you're an active trader and does trade while actively looking at the monitor of your laptop then you don't need stop loss. You're active so you can exit the market if you don't feel comfortable with the price movement. Stop loss has its disadvantages. It not all positive because cryptocurency whales manipulate the market by causing a false buy signal or sell signal on the market. If your stop loss is at the price that whales false sell just to trigger the market to start dumping, you'll get affected meanwhile the price isn't dumping but increasing.

For any trader that's not active then making use of stop loss is very important, it doesn't matter if you're trading a less volatile market like Bitcoin, you still need the stop loses to prevent yourself from suffering huge losses. Bitcoin also has moment when the price falls very fast.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Vaculin on June 26, 2023, 08:40:27 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
Well, taking risk management by setting your stop loss is a good way to prevent you from further losing. But not all traders are capable to do that since beginner traders have less discipline in the market and once they start trading, they will never stop unless they gain significant profits. But in reality, not all trades are profitable especially if you do trading against the market. That remains a challenge for us that even veterans in the market still fail to it.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Kasabus on June 26, 2023, 08:59:11 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
I think managing the risk part is not something newbies look at closely, and they totally should. They take more risk than a veteran and that's a terrible thing because they should be doing a lot better in that regard, if they are taking more risk without as much experience then it will be a loss in the end. Obviously they do not take it seriously and since they are newbies they think they are not taking too much risk when in fact they are taking it.

This is why it is quite important to be careful. I personally take as little risk as possible in the crypto world even though I have been here for over 10 years now. Because, it is hard to make money here, but it is very easy to lose it so I better be careful. I suggest the same mindset to all the newbies who think they are taking very little risk, you can take even less.
Newbies are actually the most needed persons to execute risk management as they are more prone to losses the moment they start entering the market without prior knowledge and experiences. The fact that it’s hard to make money and be profitable in your investment, then newbies should be more aware about that so that they will learn to be extra careful when doing such risks. And while risks are inevitable when trading or investing, but those newbies who prefer to study the market first and gain sufficient learning are actually lessening the risk that they have to undergo.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 26, 2023, 11:56:27 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
I think managing the risk part is not something newbies look at closely, and they totally should. They take more risk than a veteran and that's a terrible thing because they should be doing a lot better in that regard, if they are taking more risk without as much experience then it will be a loss in the end. Obviously they do not take it seriously and since they are newbies they think they are not taking too much risk when in fact they are taking it.

This is why it is quite important to be careful. I personally take as little risk as possible in the crypto world even though I have been here for over 10 years now. Because, it is hard to make money here, but it is very easy to lose it so I better be careful. I suggest the same mindset to all the newbies who think they are taking very little risk, you can take even less.
Newbies are actually the most needed persons to execute risk management as they are more prone to losses the moment they start entering the market without prior knowledge and experiences. The fact that it’s hard to make money and be profitable in your investment, then newbies should be more aware about that so that they will learn to be extra careful when doing such risks. And while risks are inevitable when trading or investing, but those newbies who prefer to study the market first and gain sufficient learning are actually lessening the risk that they have to undergo.
Sooner or later you would really be able to realize that you should really be enhancing that risks management on which it would really be something that you must improve or enhance because you wouldnt really

be surviving this market if you arent really that minding about enhancing your skills via from those actual engagement or real time experience. You would really be able to know its relevance which is something
that crucial because if we do speak about risks management then it would really be pertaining whether on financial or emotional aspect which it would really be that mainly important on this kind of dealing.
Market is really that too unpredictable and you should really be mindful about trying out to test several solutions and methods as much as you could.

Set plan A,B or even C or further more whenever one of your strategy didnt really work out.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: EarnOnVictor on June 27, 2023, 02:17:51 PM
If you're an active trader and does trade while actively looking at the monitor of your laptop then you don't need stop loss. You're active so you can exit the market if you don't feel comfortable with the price movement.
It's easier said than done, thanks to Bitcoin and others for this, but don't try it with other assets, your account might be blown off before your face or suffer a dangerous loss due to news or unscheduled events.

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Stop loss has its disadvantages.
I agree it could be a pain in the a** at times, but just as anything, there are pros and cons of them. And for the last time I checked, it is the reason why I could hold an account for years without losing it. It properly managed my risks.

Also, when I talk about trading, it's beyond Bitcoin as its trading is so stable and your view could be well practice for a long time until it fails.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Peanutswar on June 27, 2023, 03:48:50 PM
You can make an earning actually without the margin, but of course the profit is not too ideal if you only have a small amount seems like even if the price of Bitcoin makes a huge move still just a dollar or cents only if you make the trade without them or seem like more ideal with the spots trading.  In margin trading, you must be known your current budget because if you make a trade with the cross trade instances making a mistake in wrong decision-making might burn all of your asset in your account.
Learn the basic fundamentals of trading and analysis if you are now confident with that, make a risk with the margin trades.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Franctoshi on June 27, 2023, 05:18:40 PM
Newbies are actually the most needed persons to execute risk management as they are more prone to losses the moment they start entering the market without prior knowledge and experiences. The fact that it’s hard to make money and be profitable in your investment, then newbies should be more aware about that so that they will learn to be extra careful when doing such risks. And while risks are inevitable when trading or investing, but those newbies who prefer to study the market first and gain sufficient learning are actually lessening the risk that they have to undergo.


Risk management is necessary not for newbies only but also for those experienced traders, But the issue here with newbie traders is that most of them are reluctant to learn the basic tools meant to help traders, especially inexperienced ones, to limit losses, they are only focused on the profit side while leaving their account unprotected, which is why you see some of them come asking how to put stop losses and limit orders after they must have gotten raked by the market, they now start running to learn those stuff at last which were meant to be the first thing they should have done.





Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: ItsCrafty on June 27, 2023, 07:01:35 PM

Risk management is necessary not for newbies only but also for those experienced traders, But the issue here with newbie traders is that most of them are reluctant to learn the basic tools meant to help traders, especially inexperienced ones, to limit losses, they are only focused on the profit side while leaving their account unprotected, which is why you see some of them come asking how to put stop losses and limit orders after they must have gotten raked by the market, they now start running to learn those stuff at last which were meant to be the first thing they should have done.


I believe that risk management in bitcoin trading involves putting techniques in place to prevent losses and save your capital. To reduce the effects of the volatility of any one asset, many traders diversify their holdings by making investments in a variety of cryptocurrencies. By automatically selling an item when it hits the designated price or level, using  can help to  reduce losses. It also depends on how well your technical plan is put into practice. Using the right risk assessment techniques will ensure that no trade carries an excessive amount of risk. Additionally, by monitoring market trends, news, and technical indications, you can lessen some potential risks. Trading cryptocurrencies effectively involves a systematic approach, extensive study, and constant supervision.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Fatunad on June 27, 2023, 11:30:40 PM

Risk management is necessary not for newbies only but also for those experienced traders, But the issue here with newbie traders is that most of them are reluctant to learn the basic tools meant to help traders, especially inexperienced ones, to limit losses, they are only focused on the profit side while leaving their account unprotected, which is why you see some of them come asking how to put stop losses and limit orders after they must have gotten raked by the market, they now start running to learn those stuff at last which were meant to be the first thing they should have done.


I believe that risk management in bitcoin trading involves putting techniques in place to prevent losses and save your capital. To reduce the effects of the volatility of any one asset, many traders diversify their holdings by making investments in a variety of cryptocurrencies. By automatically selling an item when it hits the designated price or level, using  can help to  reduce losses. It also depends on how well your technical plan is put into practice. Using the right risk assessment techniques will ensure that no trade carries an excessive amount of risk. Additionally, by monitoring market trends, news, and technical indications, you can lessen some potential risks. Trading cryptocurrencies effectively involves a systematic approach, extensive study, and constant supervision.
The main point on why we are really that thriving to study technicals and other streategies is that we are really that trying to minimize that risks as much as possible. We know its hard but its not something that we cant
able to make profits if it had done it right. Risk management is composed or everything on where you would really be speaking about financial management and emotion management or something that we could really
call it on general aspects which is mainly been needing for you to handle yourself with this unpredictable market.You cant really just put up some positions without having considerations or having those kind of analysis because it would really be called as a pure gambling if you have done it this way. We know that its hard but its not something that you cant do if you are really that serious on dealing with this unpredictable space.
If you do miss out on having this kind of management then expect that there there would really be lots of losses that you would experience along the way.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: tygeade on June 29, 2023, 02:31:09 PM
If you're an active trader and does trade while actively looking at the monitor of your laptop then you don't need stop loss. You're active so you can exit the market if you don't feel comfortable with the price movement. Stop loss has its disadvantages. It not all positive because cryptocurency whales manipulate the market by causing a false buy signal or sell signal on the market. If your stop loss is at the price that whales false sell just to trigger the market to start dumping, you'll get affected meanwhile the price isn't dumping but increasing.

For any trader that's not active then making use of stop loss is very important, it doesn't matter if you're trading a less volatile market like Bitcoin, you still need the stop loses to prevent yourself from suffering huge losses. Bitcoin also has moment when the price falls very fast.
Even those people need it because most of those people do short term stuff, so short term that they might be looking at another coin while the coin they bought could drop. I mean like literally 150x leverage people, I have seen a few of them with like multiple screens and they were dealing with a lot of big risk moves as well so they do need a lot of care with their stop loss and trades.

If they don't use it, they may end up losing all their money even on a single toilet break, we are talking about that much risk. Obviously that also means that they may end up making that much profit as well, and it should be very important as well. This isn't really a situation to overcome it just means you need to be a lot more careful.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Jocuserious on June 29, 2023, 06:59:49 PM
You want trade quickly? Ok can you accepted loss money from your trade? If yes then you can do us faster otherwise you should avoid this items. I never call anyone for quickly trade but i can suggest there for management crypto profits. I am only here of share my opinion not working for recovery your loss money.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: jostorres on June 30, 2023, 07:44:51 AM
We all know this as a trader. But how well can you follow your well-written risk management plan determines your result. It doesn't matter how much you know managing funds, it all lies down on how are you able to follow it. Not only that we have money or fund. We also have mental capital which we also preserve. If we lose this, we can't expect ourselves to perform well in front of the charts. It's not only the monetary value, but the psychological value of the risk involved.
Even if one doesn't have enough experience in the market, trading, and risk-management techniques, one can learn about how they can manage their trades along with risk-management techniques so that they can avoid facing excessive losses, because risk-management might not be able to completely save you from losses but it will minimize your losses just like how stop-loss works in not letting your trade going too deep in loss and sells the asset immediately.

So one should obviously practice risk-management techniques before they enter the market so that if a trade they made didn't go the way they expected it to go, the techniques applied save them from facing excessive losses or getting their capital or a part of it stuck in a single trade.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: molsewid on June 30, 2023, 09:19:04 PM
We all know this as a trader. But how well can you follow your well-written risk management plan determines your result. It doesn't matter how much you know managing funds, it all lies down on how are you able to follow it. Not only that we have money or fund. We also have mental capital which we also preserve. If we lose this, we can't expect ourselves to perform well in front of the charts. It's not only the monetary value, but the psychological value of the risk involved.
Even if one doesn't have enough experience in the market, trading, and risk-management techniques, one can learn about how they can manage their trades along with risk-management techniques so that they can avoid facing excessive losses, because risk-management might not be able to completely save you from losses but it will minimize your losses just like how stop-loss works in not letting your trade going too deep in loss and sells the asset immediately.

So one should obviously practice risk-management techniques before they enter the market so that if a trade they made didn't go the way they expected it to go, the techniques applied save them from facing excessive losses or getting their capital or a part of it stuck in a single trade.
They should always have a back up plan for everything , every time I am doing something I have a plan B and C not because I am expecting that my plans will fail but I want to lessen the risk that I will be encountering once it is failed. Crypto is very volatile so it is not very easy not to have risk management , they should know at least how to use TP and SL.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Cling18 on June 30, 2023, 09:45:26 PM
We all know this as a trader. But how well can you follow your well-written risk management plan determines your result. It doesn't matter how much you know managing funds, it all lies down on how are you able to follow it. Not only that we have money or fund. We also have mental capital which we also preserve. If we lose this, we can't expect ourselves to perform well in front of the charts. It's not only the monetary value, but the psychological value of the risk involved.
Even if one doesn't have enough experience in the market, trading, and risk-management techniques, one can learn about how they can manage their trades along with risk-management techniques so that they can avoid facing excessive losses, because risk-management might not be able to completely save you from losses but it will minimize your losses just like how stop-loss works in not letting your trade going too deep in loss and sells the asset immediately.

So one should obviously practice risk-management techniques before they enter the market so that if a trade they made didn't go the way they expected it to go, the techniques applied save them from facing excessive losses or getting their capital or a part of it stuck in a single trade.
They should always have a back up plan for everything , every time I am doing something I have a plan B and C not because I am expecting that my plans will fail but I want to lessen the risk that I will be encountering once it is failed. Crypto is very volatile so it is not very easy not to have risk management , they should know at least how to use TP and SL.

Applying at least the basics will help even if you're just a beginner. You can't actually do trading perfectly in the beginning and there will surely be challenges that the market brings and your experiences on dealing with these problems will help you adjust and be better as you go on with your trading journey.
It's a long process of learning and you have to be sure that you have the complete willingness to learn because even it teading professionals undergo a continuous learning process.
The trading challenge that we will all be facing is the volatility of the market. We should focus how we could take emadvantage of every market situation.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Hamphser on June 30, 2023, 10:16:54 PM
We all know this as a trader. But how well can you follow your well-written risk management plan determines your result. It doesn't matter how much you know managing funds, it all lies down on how are you able to follow it. Not only that we have money or fund. We also have mental capital which we also preserve. If we lose this, we can't expect ourselves to perform well in front of the charts. It's not only the monetary value, but the psychological value of the risk involved.
Even if one doesn't have enough experience in the market, trading, and risk-management techniques, one can learn about how they can manage their trades along with risk-management techniques so that they can avoid facing excessive losses, because risk-management might not be able to completely save you from losses but it will minimize your losses just like how stop-loss works in not letting your trade going too deep in loss and sells the asset immediately.

So one should obviously practice risk-management techniques before they enter the market so that if a trade they made didn't go the way they expected it to go, the techniques applied save them from facing excessive losses or getting their capital or a part of it stuck in a single trade.
They should always have a back up plan for everything , every time I am doing something I have a plan B and C not because I am expecting that my plans will fail but I want to lessen the risk that I will be encountering once it is failed. Crypto is very volatile so it is not very easy not to have risk management , they should know at least how to use TP and SL.

Applying at least the basics will help even if you're just a beginner. You can't actually do trading perfectly in the beginning and there will surely be challenges that the market brings and your experiences on dealing with these problems will help you adjust and be better as you go on with your trading journey.
It's a long process of learning and you have to be sure that you have the complete willingness to learn because even it teading professionals undergo a continuous learning process.
The trading challenge that we will all be facing is the volatility of the market. We should focus how we could take emadvantage of every market situation.
Would really be just that common sense that you should really be that needing to know on what would be the basics even if you do call yourself a complete newbie then it is really just that right that you should really be mindful about knowing those things before you would really be deciding on putting up some funds here on this space because having no risk management would really be resulting
into a disaster with your finances and this is why it would really be just that right that you should really know at least with the basics.

You cant really just pour up your money and just let it work because it wont really be making out those results or outcomes if you wont really be doing something with it.
This is why its really that important that you would be needing to take actions or what are the primary things which are really needed on handling up this space.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: SaveOurSea on July 01, 2023, 07:44:26 AM
We all know this as a trader. But how well can you follow your well-written risk management plan determines your result. It doesn't matter how much you know managing funds, it all lies down on how are you able to follow it. Not only that we have money or fund. We also have mental capital which we also preserve. If we lose this, we can't expect ourselves to perform well in front of the charts. It's not only the monetary value, but the psychological value of the risk involved.
Even if one doesn't have enough experience in the market, trading, and risk-management techniques, one can learn about how they can manage their trades along with risk-management techniques so that they can avoid facing excessive losses, because risk-management might not be able to completely save you from losses but it will minimize your losses just like how stop-loss works in not letting your trade going too deep in loss and sells the asset immediately.

So one should obviously practice risk-management techniques before they enter the market so that if a trade they made didn't go the way they expected it to go, the techniques applied save them from facing excessive losses or getting their capital or a part of it stuck in a single trade.
They should always have a back up plan for everything , every time I am doing something I have a plan B and C not because I am expecting that my plans will fail but I want to lessen the risk that I will be encountering once it is failed. Crypto is very volatile so it is not very easy not to have risk management , they should know at least how to use TP and SL.

Applying at least the basics will help even if you're just a beginner. You can't actually do trading perfectly in the beginning and there will surely be challenges that the market brings and your experiences on dealing with these problems will help you adjust and be better as you go on with your trading journey.
It's a long process of learning and you have to be sure that you have the complete willingness to learn because even it teading professionals undergo a continuous learning process.
The trading challenge that we will all be facing is the volatility of the market. We should focus how we could take emadvantage of every market situation.
No one trader who trades perfectly is impossible so the most important thing is to keep doing your best by continuing to learn,
indeed the more experience then it will make us even better,
besides that it must also be realized that in trading we will not always be profitable because losses are also part of trading.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: EarnOnVictor on July 01, 2023, 08:00:34 AM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
I think managing the risk part is not something newbies look at closely, and they totally should. They take more risk than a veteran and that's a terrible thing because they should be doing a lot better in that regard, if they are taking more risk without as much experience then it will be a loss in the end. Obviously they do not take it seriously and since they are newbies they think they are not taking too much risk when in fact they are taking it.

This is why it is quite important to be careful. I personally take as little risk as possible in the crypto world even though I have been here for over 10 years now. Because, it is hard to make money here, but it is very easy to lose it so I better be careful. I suggest the same mindset to all the newbies who think they are taking very little risk, you can take even less.
Newbies are actually the most needed persons to execute risk management as they are more prone to losses the moment they start entering the market without prior knowledge and experiences.
Both newbies and experienced traders need good risk management practices, the two categories wouldn't want to lose their money irrespective of how trusting their trading strategy is or how long they've been trading. Only that newbie might want to use stricter risk management because they are just starting and they need to limit their risks to the barest minimum for the safety of their trading account.

This could be achieved by either trading with a very low risk or by using a tight stop loss as their strategy permits, or the combination of the two.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on July 02, 2023, 07:43:20 PM

_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
All that you have said above are correct, as they indeed correlate to risk management, and I think one of the most important of this rules is still the not to go into trading with an amount of money you can not afford to lose, I personally believe that this is the root cause of all other problems aside, or maybe most of it.

Anybody learning to trade should always start really small, that is, starting with a small amount of money, this is to minimize losing too much. Or more than expected.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on July 06, 2023, 07:40:19 PM
Yes I also think we don't need to risk much money in the first place. We should take less risk than we can afford. Because the risk of excess money can bring bad things for you. And those of us who think that we can make profit only by trading, thinking about the amount of money we have and managing some more money, should be careful because trading will never guarantee you profit.

First advantage of using less amount is that you have the opportunity to learn and when you put bigger and whole amount at first stage and you also have don't realize the facts about crypto then you will loss all amount in a single try therefore there will be nothing with you to continue your way towards success.
 
Less amount has less risk and less profit and bigger amount has bigger profit and bigger risk so we have to keep eye on both because if we ignore one of them then it will not be possible for us to take advantage out of it.

First start with little and get knowledge by using such lower amount and once you have actual learning about the basic materials then you can increase invested amount. Success comes little by little and if we think that we will earn millions or trillion in no time then we cannot get it but if we use our mind then surely we can get millions.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: ItsCrafty on July 07, 2023, 09:23:43 PM

_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.


In my opinion, market, security, and regulatory concerns are all addressed as part of risk management in the bitcoin Trading. On the other hand also price fluctuation, liquidity, and theft of digital assets are some significant risk concerns. Automated trading bots, risk assessment tools, and cryptocurrency wallets are examples of tools and technology for risk management. Implementing diversification, establishing risk tolerance, and utilizing technological tools to safeguard your digital assets are all best practices for risk management in the crypto trading.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Yawa2020 on July 07, 2023, 10:21:28 PM
When trading there are rules to observe in other to protect your margin, it's more like if you can't make more money, don't lose the one you have,
 That's where risk management comes in handy.
    The strategies are;


_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
If you dare to win, you must take risk. The higher risk you take, the more you are likely to make it quickly and succeed but the risk should be calculated. If you fail in your first and second risk, you'll learn to control your risk in the third attempt and it might heed positive result.

Using stop loss is highly recommend but take profit is a no for me. As far as you're not losing, you should exit the trade when you are satisfied rather than setting take profit that you will later regret.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: Inspiron14 on July 08, 2023, 10:32:51 AM

_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
All that you have said above are correct, as they indeed correlate to risk management, and I think one of the most important of this rules is still the not to go into trading with an amount of money you can not afford to lose, I personally believe that this is the root cause of all other problems aside, or maybe most of it.

Anybody learning to trade should always start really small, that is, starting with a small amount of money, this is to minimize losing too much. Or more than expected.
True it is highly recommended to start trading with a small amount of money,
trading alone is so risky that a slight mistake in decision can cost you money,
so these risks must be considered and remain careful.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: sulendra12 on July 08, 2023, 06:55:01 PM
_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.
Just make sure to not to be overconfident especially with the low risk stuff because you can easily losses your money if there is something unexpected occur during your trade. Keep your eyes open on everything.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.
_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
Stop loss is a mandatory thing to do if you don't want to drain your money fast because you don't know what to do when the chart is keep going down continuously. For beginner traders, they probably don't know when to start and just keep waiting until the price meet their criteria but in reality it's really difficult to happen. I'd prefer to use the losses as my part of experience so I can learn and avoid to make the same mistake again.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: nelson4lov on July 08, 2023, 07:41:56 PM
Stop loss is a mandatory thing to do if you don't want to drain your money fast because you don't know what to do when the chart is keep going down continuously. For beginner traders, they probably don't know when to start and just keep waiting until the price meet their criteria but in reality it's really difficult to happen. I'd prefer to use the losses as my part of experience so I can learn and avoid to make the same mistake again.

You made a good point but I won't say stop loss is mandatory for any trader. I have seen some really good traders that doesn't use it (I use stop loss btw). So, I'd say it depends ultimately on the trader.  Everyone would have their own trading styles and strategies so nothing is mandatory. Although, I do agree that for beginners, it's recommended for them to  have stop loss in place while they figure out what works best of them.

Learn the basic fundamentals of trading and analysis if you are now confident with that, make a risk with the margin trades.

Trading is a skill to be learnt and mastered. Until one has known most if not all the basics, it's not ideal to take on additional risks in form of leverage or margin so I agree with you. Most people often skip the learning part and just want to earn. When we stop thinking of crypto and trading as get rich schemes, the better it'd be for us.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: milewilda on July 08, 2023, 11:23:12 PM

_ Don't risk too much money, start with what you can afford to risk. Focus on the risk not rewards.

_ Identify potential risk as;if it goes down, if you don't take profit, if you don't use stop loss and if the coin goes against your analysis.

_ Reacting to risk, use stop loss and always take profit.
All that you have said above are correct, as they indeed correlate to risk management, and I think one of the most important of this rules is still the not to go into trading with an amount of money you can not afford to lose, I personally believe that this is the root cause of all other problems aside, or maybe most of it.

Anybody learning to trade should always start really small, that is, starting with a small amount of money, this is to minimize losing too much. Or more than expected.
True it is highly recommended to start trading with a small amount of money,
trading alone is so risky that a slight mistake in decision can cost you money,
so these risks must be considered and remain careful.
Always start small and dont really have that all in kind of behavior when it comes to investment because this is usually the case for most newbies out there in terms of duration on how they should really be learning things
which in fast pace which its not recommendable. Risk management is crucially needed on which it would really be helping you on handling yourself with this unpredictable space. You cant just put up money and would really be that just waiting for the price to increase. If you are planning for long term hold then it would really be that also considerable on which you would not really be making yourself get involved with the hassle things that those short or day traders would be doing. You cant really make yourself that having that all knowing behavior which cant be possible, experience would be your best teacher and something that
you should really be needing to learnt up along the way.


Title: Re: Risk management
Post by: TheUltraElite on July 20, 2023, 02:04:19 PM
True it is highly recommended to start trading with a small amount of money,
Any amount of money can be used to start trading. Just that your goal should be clear and limited to bitcoin mostly. Day trading less than long term and not going into HYIP/MLM/Signals groups should keep you the safest.

Go with any of the more risky options available and you will be increasing your risk. Depending on your risk appetite, you might get washed out too quickly, but as you gain experience you will able to develop your skills.

Quote
trading alone is so risky that a slight mistake in decision can cost you money,
I dont see the point of "alone" here. We all trade on our own, nobody should be guiding you unless they are a family member teaching you and has good intentions.