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I have been able to turn $4,000 into $90,000 over the course of a week. Today, I am going all in on a bet I am very confident in.

FRANCE LEAGUE 2: GRENOBLE - GUINGAMP

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UPDATE: A MISSED PENALTY AND A LOSS. BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

I'm happy for you, it's a very good result. But why don't you want to spend some of your winnings on a relaxing holiday or something else useful. I think going all-in is a bad decision. You need to take some time off from betting on sports. Your decisions will be more considered after a rest.

The results are really good from $ 4000 to be able to multiply it bigger but it looks like the OP started his greed even though he was sure he would win the bet how would it happen if he lost the bet then he would regret it because he didn't enjoy the results of the money.

It was the OP's decision to let it go.

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If you are that confident and if you can afford losing that money, then who are we to prohibit you. That's your money in the first place and you have full rights and responsibility into it. Whether you bag that amount or not, it's definitely on you. Jist be prepared for the worse if incase things won't go in favor with your expectation. Keep in mind that this is gambling industry we are at and as a gambler you should know well how risks are present in every bet. We all have differrnt tolerance in the first place with regards to both losses and gains. No matter what would be the outcome I hope you'd be fine with it and that you enjoy your gambling experience.

This bet is actually too risky and I think it's already 45 minutes into the match and the decision  of the op to me isn't a nice one as it would have been better if he took out atleast $10,000 rather than risking everything in just one match.
Well we ought to always remember  that we should  never gamble with money we can't afford to loss and also remember that nothing is certain in gambling  and at such,  your predictions aren't certain and has no guaranty.
Well since the money is yours and we can't actually tell you what to do rather than make suggestions,  I think you are not even ready to loss this money because it seems you're making the best because you think you are certain of your pick.
Goodluck mate.

Wow!
Your doing it big man, nice one. Though, that's some risk your undertaking and I wonder what sort of assurance you've got on the game.
Am not a big fan of the smaller division leagues but, I've had stories that it often goes down good there with the goal markets and more than often, the stronger team always wins.
Even with all that, this is still gambling and as it is, anything could be the outcome of the game, little mistakes could occur and the dynamics would be changed completely.

I just did a check and it's one goal already and there was a penalty miss. You could have been 90% close to getting your win. You've got 4minutes more to hope for 2 goals. Goodluck with your bet.

It seems a little dodge that you decide to post about this on the forum and not as a reply in the French football discussion board ^[1] but as a thread of its own in the gambling board.

It is a risky bet and taking risks like this is one way to run through your stake capital very fast, except you have a pretty big bank and can spare a little bit of loss here and there.
The game is in the 55 minute and 2 goals have been scored so far, still enough time for your prediction to be reached.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267086.0

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It depends on what 90k is to OP. If he's making 200k a year, betting 90k might not be such a big deal. Still risky as fuk, but not the end of the world. Someone like me, who barely makes 50k a year would shit himself betting that much and my wife would probably kill me if I lost, so I'll say it again, it depends on who you are, how much money you have, how comfortable you are betting this much. I'd at least split that into multiple smaller bets.

Good luck OP, you have about 30m left. Don't chicken out before the end ;)

The score is 0-2 now in favor of Guingamp in 60mins. mark and I think it has the chance to go over 3 but we never knew. I think it's really a risky bet and you're going all-in, if by chance you win this one I think you will rest and enjoy that winnings. I think you're a whale having to decide like this and that's just a pretty small amount especially if we're talking about your initial capital.

Edit: Full-time 0-2 and the bet was at loss.

Welp. Congratulations on your previous wins, I'm looking at the game now and it seems as if you're on to something here as the goal's already 2 with chances of going for three in the next couple minutes or so. Good luck man. I must say though this type of bet is risky and is not something that I would recommend everyone to do. But it looks like NAPK1NS here is a high-roller so he can stand to lose a couple hundred thousand dollars or so. Exactly. Not really a bet that you'd be willing to play let alone recommend to everyone. Just pure risk and the payoff's real fine if you win but for the average joe that's just a death wish. QueenVera's a little cranky bout this guy's betting behaviors, but from someone who strictly opposes belligerent gambling, I can get behind that.

This bet is too risky to relax on because of the stake amount and the current outcome of the match,  and ops chances are getting slimmer at this point, and this is going to be one outcome that will change a lot of things in both directions, whether for or against ops.
The point is that, the higher the stake the higher the risk of losing but all the best to the ops and hoping that his bet comes through for him.

Wow.  I mean good on you with that build up but that's a dicey all in call.  Hope it works out for you.  I'm not familiar with the teams to know one way or another if that's a solid bet.  Did you build it all up betting soccer or various sports?  Good luck

If you look at it though, the odds are now that huge, although it will make him 2.06 on the money that he is going to bet.

I haven't check if the match has started, but it seems that the OP is confident on his bet and if I'm not mistaken, this is not the first time that he shows his bet to the public and how big the money is on the line.

All we can say is that we admire the guts of the OP and hopefully we can win this game.

This is as huge risk, going all in but then again it came from a good profit after all.
The chance of winning are getting smaller and I hope OP is still ok with this.

Guingamp won the game anyway, I want to hear some updates from OP because I'm really curious about this big bet.
Looks like OP is a pro bettor as he already posted most of his huge bet here.

 Forgive me for being cynical but it's hard to believe such screenshots, when anyone is able to produce them very easily with a bit of HTML manipulation or simple graphics editing. Greed is the downfall of every poor man, so if you did just throw away $90,000 and it is a sizable sum for you, then you should be ashamed. That is a very sizable sum of money in most parts of the world and you really need to ask yourself what your end goal is here. Maybe this is a tiny, throwaway amount for you, but when is it enough? You're not helping anyone except the bookmakers and look an utter fool. You could easily have kept $80k and simply started again from that point, but I highly doubt you'll get another winning streak like that for a while, but you will throw away many thousands attempting it again.

Is this bet lost already? I checked the scores and it's Guingamp. OP bet on over 3 for the Asian total and that means it's a lost bet. Damn, I feel sorry for OP. $90k is quite a huge amount already and it's not easy to dismiss that loss. Well, if OP has a lot of money and is earning good, that loss might not be that bad at all. The odds are honestly inviting NGL, but for someone who doesn't know football that much, this is a bet that I'd surely put a quarter of that $90k and wait for bets that I could go ham and just bet max.

I feel this to be an unlucky day for OP. Earlier I've seen him post good winnings through his bets. From $4000 to $90k itself a big achievement, and everyone is able to achieve it. Here it looks like he's completely good with his predictions. Just because he lost the all in one bet, it looks like he's over confident with the bet. Anyhow he needs to start once again from the bottom. Maybe following his bets will help us make good winning, because of his previous betting history.

Even if you deny it I'm sure it hurts not everyone is so lucky that he can turn his $4000 into $90,000 go all out then lose everything I mean for me this is greed, if you're comfortable with losing that huge winning it still hurt.
I hope this is a lesson learned for many if you made a lot from your bankroll enjoy your winning so you have something good to remember on your winning, I don't know, but you seem to be ok as you are going back to the drawing board, I hope you still going to win and you find the control you need to withdraw your winning and enjoy it.

While I admire your bravery and this is gambling, you still didn't have a second thought of casting that bet.

Sorry for your loss but that's how it goes. If I were on your shoes, I'll play safe and take maybe half or 3/4 of that money and will put the remaining on that bet.

But I am also sure that if you're able to win this bet then we all be still admiring your bravery and at the same time your luck that's able to win you that much.

With such turn of events, definitely it hurts. Even if he denied about it.
I hope the OP learned a thing or two on this scenario. Better secure some of his winnings rather than go all in.
He's very sure about the outcome, and yet, the outcome was different.
I bet a lot of gamblers have such kind of experience but most of them are not like OP who shared his bet before the results came in.
Will he change his approach the next time he will accumulate winnings?

A loss is a loss and it will always hurt when the amount you're able to grow and win in the past is wiped out.

That is what most of us will do and that's to secure the profit and will continue with whatever is left to us. But he's a gambler and it's a common thing to have this attitude towards betting with the games that you are confident will win you money. And on this case, not this time for him, it's such a bad beat.

This is the risk of betting and going all in, but look at the reward if ever.
I'm sure OP is a big time bettor, and this is one of his losses. Now I'm wondering how much his total earnings so far with his bets.
OP will surely bounce back, this is just another bad day for OP. His first win was already big, If I have that winnings I will surely take some profit out of it.
Technically, OP just loss $4k here with his real money.

I really appreciate your efforts, you can get $90,000 by using $4,000 only. You should enjoy some money after a weak you did efforts. I know it is only betting but it will be wise if you spare some money to enjoy holydays or gathering wit your lovely people. I mean if you use all the money for betting, it is possible to lose it only in a day. It is your right to bet all the money again, but don't you think if you lose in this time? Even if you have a big reason to bet all the money, I never do it if I were you. It is not a small money!!  ;D

^That is how OP lucky is, OP you should enjoy it, you will never know there is no next time.
If you win a significant amount while gambling like OP did, it is always a good idea to reassess your situation and consider stopping or taking a break from playing. It is natural to worry about losing the winnings back, especially if you continue to gamble without proper strategy or self-control. The number one rule that you must do is that practice responsible bankroll management, if you decide to continue playing, make sure to establish a strict bankroll management strategy. Set a specific amount of money you are willing to risk and stick to it. Avoid chasing losses or increasing your bets dramatically, as this can lead to substantial losses. Probably this is your lucky day but how about in the next day?

How come you're calling him lucky? He lost. 
It was a great opportunity and it took a lot of balls to do it, so congratulations OP and thanks for sharing your bet. It was close.
I hope losing that bet did not put you in any trouble. Keep them coming, I like watching people not afraid to risk a lot of money. Such bet would be a bit too high for my to try.

Wow, I like your style of betting, you are a person who likes to pit his guts with big bets. and if what you say is true, regarding your words "can turn $4000 into $9000 for a week". something very interesting, and I would assume that you are the typical serious gambler. I mean, every bet you make will definitely involve research and analyzing it carefully.

Regarding the bet you made, I don't have too much information about the French League 2. but I'm interested in referring to the teams you are betting on. based on statistics, Guingamp should be more favored than Grenoble. however, why would you bet on Over 3 goals. because when referring to Grenoble, they are not too reliable based on the number of goals they have scored in their 38 matches. So you expect Guingamp to score a lot. but by the way, this is just my overview referring to statistics. and if I'm wrong, please forgive me because I don't really know this League. Unfortunately, you lose this bet. because the match ended with a score of 0-2, and I hope you don't regret your decision.

Awtz. It hurts and even a professional sports bettor for long won't be able to easily move on to that.

The 1-week effort turning $4,000 to $90,000 just lose in a single bet maybe because OP thinks he will continue the winning streak on that all-in bet. I do hope OP is just fine as that loss will surely haunt his mind for several days or even weeks. There will be lots of whispers he can hear out of nowhere stating those, "if only" scenarios.

No choice but to accept that painful loss (I say painful even though OP didn't admit it) and move on even with how hard it is. OP also says that he will just back on his usual betting board but my suggestion is, don't bet while still in the regretful status and condition. The focus won't surely be there as the primary purpose now is how to get on that winning amount again in a short period of time.

Although from what I see, seems OP's strategy in sports betting is really good. If he is able to turn that $4,000 into $90,000, he will surely be able to do it again but his mind should be in a relaxed state and don't let that big loss distract his future betting.

Sorry for your loss!

Going all-in is for the few, especially when the amount gained to reach that amount was achieved little by little.
Asism like the others, if I had seen this post before, I would have told you to reserve at least 50% of the amount for a later date or even to keep it in a holding, but I don't know how much those 90k mean in your life economical. If they mean little, it does make sense to go all-in. If it is a reasonable or high amount for you, it would be wiser to set aside part of the amount.

Anyway! I hope you manage to turn 4k into 90k again and have better luck in the next all-in.

As a gambling enthusiast for a long, especially being a sports bettor, I understand being in the feeling of a continuous winning streak and also being able to turn my capital into something decent. Since the luck is there, while maintaining a good analysis on my bets, I do feel that why should I stop betting if the momentum is there. Not being greedy here, just to clarify, but there's something in my mind that I'm sure I can make it.

But hey, if let's say I have the $90,000 bankroll that was a product of my effort from the capital $4,000, even for let's say I'm greedy to win more, never in my vocabulary to risk it in a one-time big-time all-in bet even I truly trust my analysis at 999%. Not just because sports betting is unpredictable but if we talk about the $90,000 amount, it can be utilized more in another way, and not by betting all-in.

However, if OP nailed that bet, that is obviously a different story. The lesson from that action should be treated as a reference by OP from now on.

While I can admire how you turned out initially, I offer my condolences for your monetary loss.
Still, since you went all in this occasion and with that sum of money I assume that you are a person who did not actually needed that money to survive and keep your life style up.  :)

Next time, instead going completely all in, consider to withdraw and enjoy some of your realized profits in real life, that is something I would considered to be healthy to any bettor and gambler, regardless of the size of their pockets.  :P

Good luck on the next one, man. 

I think this experience is one of those things that you will remember forever that might change your perspective in gambling. Since you have started with $4,000 and grew it until $90,000 but you subsequently lost everything, this will teach you about self-control and discipline at the same time.

Regardless, you still incurred a loss at the end no matter how high you have raised your initial investment. I just hope that you exercise restraint and call it a day when you have earned at least twice your investment back.

$90,000 is a lot of money and that can actually alter one's life with that kind of resource.

I don't really understand why you didn't save $10,000 of it as some cash to keep yourself comfortable for some time in the event that you lost instead of going $90k all in. I can see the impulse if 90k was lower than your beginning balance but this was just disgustingly greedy considering that you started on just $4,000.

I think that you have made a big mistake here...you could have easily taken a break and done something good with the money instead of putting it all on a losing gamble.

I'm really totally agree with you. You should spend some of your time in a holiday instead of going all-in everyime. You've built a great bankroll and it is really riskful to bet all of it on only 1 bet. Please, keep in mind what

you're doing, because 90.000$ is a giant sum and losing it could be really sad for you.

Hey, at least it was a thrill... I hope. Well, it is money that was earned from gambling so ehhh, I'd consider nothing was lost really. Turning $4k into $90k is quite a feat though, seeing as you bet all in in one match I'm rather curious if you did the same from the initial to 90k, or just slowly built it up and decided to go yolo for once after all that careful betting (which can be rather boring). Don't lose hope though! I reckon you aren't though, since the vibe of the update seems like you're still gonna come back to gambling lmao. Good luck to OP again~

Ehh his money his rules. Ofc if this was money deposited, I wouldn't be here rambling about this. BUT, it was money won, technically nothing was originally his(except for the initial $4k).

I hope you're good after your loss, one big lesson here is you cannot be too confident because there is still a thing called upset and it will really hurt if you bet everything and you lose by upset.
If I were in your position this is a life-changing amount for me I will cash out and enjoy my winning to the fullest and buy things I want, the best feeling is buying something out of your winning it reminds you that you can still win gambling while enjoying.

When I read the beginning of the thread I knew I was going to lose everything. Not the 90,000 bet, but this type of player is one of those who doesn't have enough until he loses it all, and as is typical, he blames the penalty, not lousy risk management. He plays with no bankroll and therefore no risk management other than his supposed skill or his supposed streak.

That's sad! I'm sorry for your loss. But, well, that's just what it is. That's just who you are. Gambler's gonna gamble.

With the amount of money you are gambling, I assume it's not too much of a big deal for you. That $90,000 is already big for me, but if you gained it over a course of one week only, and you managed to bet it all on a single match, I guess it's not something that would give you sleepless nights, or so I hope.

Well, back to step one. Good luck in your future bets!

I am sorry for your loss. I hope you take the lesson about your emotions.

I know how you feel when you put it all in. Maybe God is still with you and still generous to give to you the winning. But, you must take control of your emotions dude, this is gambling where you play with a round ball that can run anywhere. You are also brave to bet on a club that never won in the last 4 matches and ignored the opponent who has 2 won and never lost in the last 4 matches.

Such a bad beat. Ouch i can imagine how this loss hurts. The bet looked really good maybe if they scored that penalty the bet could have gone the other way. Still it was 0-2 at start of second half and really wierd that not a single goal came after that. Both teams didnt need anything so really wierd that there were only two goals on this match

This was such a huge loss. But knowing that most of the money is only taken from your winnings, at least it isn't really that painful. It would have been a different story if you really shelled out $90,000 from your own pocket especially for that bet.

And that bet was probably worth risking also. It was more or less a fair bet. And since you're very confident in it, if there is regret, it must not be that bad. But perhaps next time it is not bad to set aside your starting bet and a little profit before betting the rest all in.

Greed and overconfidence can always ruin what we have got just like what Op experienced, no matter how sure we are that a team will get a win it won't necessarily happen even when betting at odds 1.01 you can still lose, so don't ever be 100% sure that we will definitely win the bet so do all in on our bet.
Maybe it will work as well as the previous bet as the initial bet that Op experienced but not always the same, because sometimes greed makes us blind to analyze other things that are very likely to happen in a match, and Op pays in full the results of his greed. Hopefully the amount lost is a value Op can afford to lose, important lesson there is no certainty of winning in a bet.

OMG you are a brave person. I believe there are not many opportunities to make $4000 to $90000. But you dare to put it all in, if you win maybe it will be amazing, but I'm not sure you will stop and enjoy the money. Maybe you will put everything again until everything is gone then you can stop.

Hope you are okay with the results. It was an incredible gamble, I couldn't imagine it, it was too big for me. Maybe I will be stressed and depressed if I lose that much money
 
Controlling greed is difficult. When we lose, we are curious and put a lot of money in to win. But when we win, we forget to take the money, even though we lose more than we win

That's gambling. there is a lot of risk in it, but even leaving it is difficult. You really are a big man. I salute your courage.
 

Lol, you are right buddy, no one guarantees a win at every sports bet, even with Odda 1.01 you can still lose because no one can really predict the results correctly.
Maybe with confidence, gamblers can be more confident and dare to take risks, but if the final result is a draw, they will cry because they have lost large amounts of money.
I often do this kind of thing and at every bet the winning percentage can be 70% to 80% but when a large amount of money comes in the winning percentage disappears and the game ends in a draw. :D

It's better to bet responsibly and be able to prioritize caution than having to take big risks by risking money that can disappear in an instant.

OP did not post his feeling about his losses, many will consider this a huge loss but we never know if he's been doing this and how he addresses his losses, all he posted is that he is back in the drawing board so he's not going to stop betting huge amount.
Every gambler has his own limit and I guess OP has a high limit on his betting, this is a risky behavior in the eyes of many, but if you analyze OP's post it's ok for him no regret whatsoever, if it happens to me I would take a whole month off from betting.

Lol, the case of the OP is often seen in poker in the players we call recreational or fish. They sit down to play, have extraordinary luck, win a lot and instead of being aware that they are winning despite playing badly by pure luck, a lot of luck that night, what they believe is that they are on a roll and go up a level. They go to a table where the blinds, and therefore the stakes, are bigger. There they usually lose everything they have won, but if by chance the streak continues and they win, they do the same thing again and go up a level again, without being aware that what is happening to them has a minuscule probability and that it will continue happening to them is even more minuscule in each subsequent hand.

I admire the courage OP has. I would say he is a true gambler, not afraid to take risks and understands that losing is part of the game. You've gone too far, but your last attempt failed. Well, as you mentioned, it's back to the drawing board again. I'm sure you'll grow that money again, given that you have the skills of a true gambler. Keep grinding, mate.

That is a dangerous type of courage,I lost all by raising the bet on slot machines yesterday night and I played for several hours.I was grinding for that x35000 multiplier which no one has won it yet in the slot I played.The type of courage that OP showed is great but when you lose money it turns away all the enthusiasm of winnings and draws you into a big aura of sadness,no one should say otherwise even those people who accept lost amounts and are not sore losers.
I wish OP good luck in his further endeavors and let us know when he hits it big so we can get some of that enthusiasm back.

There are only few cases of those gambling that will boldly comes out to share their better experience with gambling especially when they win than when they are loosing or had a serious challenge with the gambling platform they are using, because people are fond of complaining too much even on little issues that doesn't worth it, i will say this concerning your winning that it's a big and wonderful privilege, you must have also been gambling over time without having this kind of result over a long time or ever, atleast we still have those winning despite the losses.

such a waste, but hey, it's your money I just hope you can afford to lose that money and would not affect you mentally, losing that amount can be traumatizing(at least for me). good luck on your future bets!

Sorry to see that you lost your 90k USD bet. What an insane profit you managed to achieve before though coming from only 4k USD. How long did it take you to get up to 90k and does this happen regularly? I would expect you placed a combi bet with a lot of legs to get such a big payout, or did you just bet many times in a row? So far I haven't been as lucky as you to reach such profits, but I am also a bit more risk averse and try to bet on higher odds. Just one more question, why didn't you split out your 90k bet? To me it seems a bit too risky to bet so much money on one single bet. Wouldn't it be better to pick 3-4 different bets all with similar odds to spread out the risk? Hope you are going to recover soon.

A true gambler must have thought about the risk of losing when he decided to go all-in all his money; not many can do it. But going all-in is not recommended, especially since it is a lot of money he can use for his life.

He has chosen his bet and we hope he can accept whatever the outcome is and not be disappointed if the bet is lost because that can happen in gambling. He can make money again from gambling but must remember that he cannot always win every game.

So hopefully, he can take some of his wins, celebrate, and take a little break to decompress.

Aiming for big wins is not a problem even though in practice it sounds crazy to some people, especially when betting large amounts at once. As for some gamblers here, in general, there are ways to minimize losses or just want to enjoy games with a longer duration.
It all depends on the typical gambler and their bankroll's ability to take the risk.

No offense to the OP but that is a big bet and if you have followed the betting history of the OP, yeah there are times that he won big, but majority is also a big lost for him.

Nevertheless, this could be a lessons for us, or just simply don't be greedy and just enjoy the winnings and maybe just live another day to bet and continue with your gambling activity. And this is what gambling is all about, you win some, you lose some.

For sure he can live with that and try his luck on the next game.

I'm sorry to read about these bets because it's one of the first rules of gambling - what not to do.
even if you feel "confident" never bet "ALL IN" in one bet (and by the way with a fairly high odds).

it's not a matter of "bravery". here you play to win, to make a profit, there is no point in being "brave".

the thread title even seemed to be more of a rare success story if OP had taken the profit and had withdrawn everything and stopped playing for good, yes I said stopped playing for good, why did I make that suggestion? because in gambling there is no such thing as infinite luck or someone who is invincible or someone who has constant profits, as long as the person keeps playing he will lose and he will not leave with money, this is something that all people need to know when they join us gambling, the op did not take this into account, turning 4000$ into 90,000$ does not make anyone invincible, it does not make a person someone who will not lose money in the gambling

so OP in addition to all those things i mentioned that he didn't take into account, he made another big mistake (assuming his story is true): never put your entire bankroll on a single bet, there are no 100% safe bets, even in a game where the odd is at @ 1.01 for the favorite, still close, the favorite can lose the game and all people who bet on the favorite will lose money. obviously OP after that defeat didn't post again because it must be hard to accept that he lost everything after so much sacrifice and only lost because he got greedy and overconfident. anyway what could be a beautiful success story became a sad story like many

He is going back to drawing board to turn another 4k to 100k and then he will go ahead and blow the 100k. I don't see vision and purpose in his system of gambling. No matter how rich he is, it hurts the way he is approaching gambling. I know too well that it Hurst Op more than he made it look here.
This type of gambling life will not give Op some peace of mind. After winning 90k, he should have restarted his strategy with almost 10k and use the 80k to take care of life and his wellbeing.

You have lost the bet, right ?

Oh my god, what have you done? Lost a 90,000$ in a single bet. You first turned 4000$ into 90,000$ which was a big achievement but then what makes you think that you can win every bet and go all in  ???

This is one of the most stupid things to do in gambling, that is going all in. You have just ruined your winnings. I understand that you may have got overconfident, by your winnings, but does this mean that you will always win all the bets? Does it mean that you will never lose any money in gambling?

If you were too confident, you could have gone with 4000$ but going in a bet with 90K, is not the right thing for any sensible person. I would call you a gambling addict and you need to consult a phycologist otherwise you may keep on taking these insane decisions in your life and end up losing everything.

I do hope that you have a lot of money and this loss does not matter to you, but if I was at your place, and lost 90K, i would have done suicide by now. This is a life changing money for many people which you just throw away in the bet.


What is the guarantee that he will again convert 4000$ in a big amount? He might have been lucky the first time but may never be so lucky ever again. Such incidents in life do not come often and I am afraid he has done the biggest mistake in his life by throwing away 90K in a bet. If he again makes 100K and throws it away, then what can i say  ???

Wow, this is such a massive bet. I'm in awe that you were able to turn  $4000 dollar into $90000. That should have taken a lot of effort and luck in your end.

This is such an inspiration to some people who want to turn their small fund into big one. However, we should always be reminded that not everyone has the same skillset and favor of luck on their side, hence, we must not be envious of one's victory. Just because they achieved it, doesn't mean you could too especially in gambling. I'm saying this not to weaken your motivation or to discourage you, but to making you see the possible consequences if ever you will stake such huge amount to test your luck in winning big. Since in gambling there's no sure win, you can just hope for the best. Hopefully this amount is what you can afford to lose, so if ever things go wrong, you will not regret and sulk over it for a long time.

I agree with that, sometimes high confidence actually traps us into losses and this is where we have to be good at controlling ourselves. Going all in with the previous benefits is not a wise idea, why not try 1/2 or even 1/3 of our total money? and in my opinion it is a wiser decision than having to spend money in 1 bet.
You are right that in gambling you don't always talk about courage, there are many factors that must be considered rather than just putting forward courage. I understand that, because maybe when we decide to do all of this it means we are ready to risk losing, but once again we have to think carefully about doing that.

I see you lost your bet, but I'm curious why you needed to YOLO the balance? Why wouldn't you take what you had already made and start betting with some sense? 90k balance you could try to make smarter bets with less risk and lower odds. Maybe try and find a system where you make a few bucks daily and live the rest of your life without many worries.

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I don't mean to remind you of your regrets, but only as a reminder not to be too greedy in placing bets. you might in a week manage to win in a row from $ 4000 to $ 90k but remember gambling there are always wins and losses that should be yours but all just disappear.
I understand your emotional situation when you are overconfident, but I hope this serves as a lesson for you.

Yeah, it didn't end well for the bet in the end and this was a case of over confidence in the league, teams and goal market. Its a huge lose indeed, haven't gotten over 22x turn over of your original stake and still wanted more by going all in to double it.
I think the best thing to have been done would have been to withdraw a portion of it as an insurance. This is gambling after all and in gambling, the unexpected could easily turn out to be the reality of things and this is one of those situation.
OP came quite close but, there is no such thing as coming quite close in gambling. You either win or you lose.
Am sure there is many more where that came from so, you can look forward to the next one.

@OP I think you're a gambling addict, it's better for you to seek a help from the professional.

It's not because you've lost your $90,000 bet, even you were won, you're still can't control yourself for not being greedy and use all of your winnings. If you just use 10% of your bankroll, you can bet on the other 9 bets and this will minimize the risk to lose all of your money.

We don't actually know the financial capacity of OP, and I think he is aware of t he risk and once he knew it, its hard to tell that its addiction.
I consider him as a professional gambler who can afford to gamble that much, because he already earned a huge profit and wasting that will take courage and risk.
Let's wait for the update of OP and maybe, he have a few bets left in the market.

I really don't understand why the OP decided to make a bet, which I think is very risky, given that it is about France League 2, and for me it used to be a league in which very few goals were scored. I assume that it was some kind of match-fixing tip, or the OP based his assessment on the last match between these two teams, when even 6 goals were scored.

No matter how you look at it, it's stupid to go with such an amount for just one game, and if the OP had come up with a better strategy, he could have made a lot more money from those $90k.

He turns his 4000$ to 90,000$ by doing multiple bets for a week. I doubt that he is a gambling addict because he will not make that kind of huge milestone profit over the course of the week with an addict attitude. Probably he just has a huge reserved money in the bank that's why it's easy for him to bet that kind of money.

A gambling addict will surely lose that 4000$ instantly.

I wonder how he felt after losing such a huge amount of money but surely he could have been in constant stress and frustration because big money was lost on the table. He's going to have a hard time recovering from previous losses but I think he'll keep trying and maybe he won't stop until he's managed to recover. Maybe he should take a break from betting for a few days and recover from the disappointment of losing it. But if he still decides to continue gambling, he can do so but must understand the risk of losing could happen again.

Indeed he is but we shouldn't worry about him because maybe he is a rich guy and that amount is still within his range. If not then I don't think he will have the guts to do an all in bets because gambling is very risky and we mostly have the chance to lose than to win. Actually, there are lots of good ways to turn that $4k in to $90k.

Trading and investing for example. They are also less risky than in gambling because pure skills can be apply here and not just luck. Not all gamblers are the same. Maybe you have a hard time controlling your greed but for him, he already knows what he is doing. Most of the times rich bettors are professional. They have the knowledge, the control, and patience. That is why they became successful in life.

Wonder if he took advantage of cash out option ( had a quick look at the whole thread but couln't figure it out) : guess that on 2:0 result and with still 30 minutes to play they were offering a nice amount as early cash option.

    -   Wow! I am also impressed by your courage to do that. It's a huge amount in the country I'm in and I can buy a nice house and land,
car and business with that amount.

Don't you have a plan to keep what you won? It's like I'm the one who regrets in that situation, always think of winning and then what if you suddenly lose, you'll blame yourself just in case for sure. If I win that amount, I can't go all in like that honestly speaking.

I would have taken my $4k out before doing the bet but people don't often do safe choices when they gamble. And i totally understand why OP did it. When you feel lucky you do take risks. I am not sure if there is such thing as smart bet as everything is based in change and luck has huge impact on the result.

If you are gambling few buck worth every day you are most likely lose that $4K just slower, or win slower if you are lucky (and maybe some kind of sports wizard) . I really see no difference in result. End result either happens faster or slower.

He is either too rich and isn't being totally transparent with us or he is not having enough sanity to understand that turning $4k to $90k isn't a joke and then betting $90k on a single game is the worst thing one can do if they have actually managed to turn their bankroll of $4k into $90k that too on the number of goals to be scored in a game which is never a guaranteed win no matter what.

A normal person would never bet $90k in a single match no matter how much surety they have about them winning the bet since there is always the risk of losing it as well, one should simply bet with smaller amounts and try to turn that $90k into something bigger gradually instead of wasting it like that.

Nope, disagree there. It might be called a true gambler if they are really not afraid of taking any risks but not to the point that they will just do some random risky actions without even a consideration. Responsible betting is what they are following that's why their respective bankroll can keep up with the long-run. In this case by OP, just because he made a good run in the week, he thinks going all-in is a good idea.

A true gambler recognized the risks. Too much greedy is what have shown by OP.

If only he stick to his strategy that able him to turned his $4,000 to $90,000, he might be still in the game right now and already earned 6 digits figures in 2 weeks. He has an impressive strategy honestly but his desire to win more wrecked his focus and want to go shortcut instead.

Maybe he is not smart after all? and just decided to go in and think that his luck will continue.

So I do agree doesn't make sense and hopefully this kind of lost will bring him back to reality and next time he will do the smart move, not to YOLO anymore and at least keep some money on his pocket.

And I guess it doesn't have confidence to win, you need to be smart as well.

I will be more impressed if he will stop for a while after winning $90,000 instead of rebetting it all in. A smart gambler would know when to stop and take advantage of your winnings once you generate a good profit. I agree that Op has been greedy because he already had a huge gain but still aiming for more.
He doesn't need to stick on his strategy but rather be wise in knowing when to stop. Making 4000 to 90,000 is lucky enough for him to be contented and just bet with small amount again. I think he wanted to make huge profit easily than applying the strategy that he has done.

Sorry to say, but that is not bravery but plain stupidity, even if one have a lot of money to throw around, ops decision clearly shows he doesn't know how to manage money..
Being able to turn $4000 to $90,000 in the course of a week is a great blessing and one many pray for, but then, turning around to lose the entire $90,000 simply mean two things..
1. The gambler is a very greedy person
2. The gambler is stupid and doesn't know anything about money management..

If atleast, he got his initial $4000 investment out, I would have felt more better than I am feeling right now.

I can relate to why he made such a decision, this is how he turned $4k into $90k. He just keeps gambling to build more and more because it is never enough but we know what happens at the end. Disappointment is real but we can't do anything since OP is the gambler who loves to make huge risks and he hopes to rob the casino bankroll one day. Maybe he wanna be a millionaire in the shortest way possible, who knows. Just my 2 cents.

Easy come, easy go... When money doesn't take too much effort to reach our hands, we tend to not care for it, so we end losing it pretty fast and irresponsibly. Lottery winners are a clear example in several cases. With 90,000$ OP could have made a decent investment in something solid which would have returned him passive income along the time, that could be used for gambling purposes again without hurting the initial budget.

Now all the progress made along the week (which I suppose to have been a chance in one million) is gone. And it's very unlikely he is going to be able to reproduce such outstanding performance futurely.

Well OP is very confident with his bet and based on the result of his past bets, its clear that he did pretty good in growing his money through bettinf. I wouldn't balme him if he bet that kind of money on a single bet given that he is clear that he did the right choice. Betting has a lot of risk and I know that OP knows it, it's just that the bet he did this time crushed his grown money and efforts to waste. There are good paths in steady growing his money like what you said but OP is confident on his bet and I don't think that he will take a chance to miss in betting on this game.

We should hope that OP learned his lesson in not going all in even how much is his confident on a game.

It was the first time you've made such profits in such a small amount of time? If it wasn't the first time it would mean you're a very strong bettor and you will be able to recover your losses soon. Unfortunately I don't think that's the case, otherwise you wouldn't have placed a bet with such a large proportion of your bank roll. Most bettors say one bet should never exceed 10% of your bank roll. In addition you wouldn't have played on this sportsbook which has a poor reputation among sport bettors.

Ouch! That hurts a lot losing $90k in one bet i can’t imagine how do you feel right now. I can’t understand why you didn’t take that money with all that effort turning out 4k only to 90k and enjoy them in a long vacation Xd.
You clearly have much courage and previous experiences as this one since you made it and updated your posts, not many people can do that and handle first the stress before the match and the bad feeling of losing. If it was me honestly i will be broken haha. We would like to see all your betting journal you started from 4k.
I hope it’s an experience for you that was so expensive and make you think twice before gambling too much,

I am afraid got carried away by greed and the ambition of money, perhaps enough so he would not need to bet again for a long time...
This thread, I think it is a good lesson for those who have ever thought to go all in a single bet hoping to go big or go home, some hundreds of bucks at hand can be more valuable than the uncertainty of thousands, if your prediction is accurate...

I won't lie, if something similar happened to me, I would be devastated, beyond anything I have felt before.

I can answer that. Because, in short, how do you know when you are finished? You could ask same question from traders. Why didn't you leave at the top? Because no one knows where the top is. If you think you are going to the moon you are betting money for it, and without it you can't go anywhere.

I have been in a position where i need to choose if i keep $50k or keep riding higher. Because when you start from $50 and end up having $50k that money suddenly starts to lose meaning. I mean you can't live with $50k for a long time and you start to reach for money that keeps you and your kids wealthy, and funny enough, that sum is never big enough. You might have a goal now, but trust me, when you get there that number sounds like peanuts compared to what you could have. And you have to pay taxes too.

He is not your average gambler and sports bettor, that courage will tell you how brave someone can be. It is indeed a huge loss but could be a huge win, unfortunately. But to tell how he post and share the win and the lost will tell you that this is not the first time he did this.

Not only about emotion, but he must also get a big lesson to avoid being greedy. He actually won $90,000 and he has an opportunity to stop betting temporarily. Ideally, he must enjoy more than 75% of the money and only bet again less than 25% of $90,000. Or he can start betting again with $5,000 - $10,000. I think it is enough to allocate for his next betting.

Another thing, OP has a lack of experience in managing his money. It is very risky for a gambler who has no ability to manage his money. A gambler can end up losing everything if never learn how to manage money.

Yep. God already gave him big money. He should thanks to God and stop playing temporarily. But he became greedy, he forget that luck won't come every time.  ;D

It's very sad and honestly, you are very brave after such a big loss you have handled the situation many people get frustrated and can't control themselves. From here it will be convenient to move forward with your experience. The damage done to the gambling platform is very difficult to recover. I would never bet that much. If you invest in this, the loss will be less. Gambling is an addiction in which you will always be in a daze, building your life beautifully. Those who know life is one, and life only once, live life not only looking back but also looking forward. Look forward, don't look back.

I just hope that was not all your capital, however I cannot help to wonder why you went all in with such bet? I mean you have been doing well and obtained 22x your initial capital, why risk it all in a single event? If you had a way to become a profitable gambler then that was the moment to become more conservative in the case something like what you are experimenting now happened to you, as right now you will have to start all over again and who knows if you will ever reach the same level of success as before.

Its not greed so much if he built the ability to make the bet himself then its his choice.    Always take profits along the way is what I would ideally choose to do but I play multi bets on sport all the time which of course is putting all of the previous bet onto the next match and rolling it over.    All he did different is do it manually this time, imo I would have taken out a thousand or few for myself as consolation prize.
   Don't be too down on yourself and try to repeat the result but start small when building and stay calm in your choices in order to achieve as much.

  Keep posting your bets and your reasoning for betting each way, I think the process of writing it down may help as a kind of revision to improve your results possibly.  Explaining a process can help solidify the reasoning for it, increase consideration of factors and will improve accuracy.
   I'm venturing 1 merit towards this most noble endeavor in hope you complete your crusade in victory to your multi bets 🤴  8)

What do you mean that is not his capital? it's his money regardless of what the source it, maybe it came from his winnings earlier and wanted to continue his success. But we all know that there is huge risk, and he knows the consequences of it. Either go win or win big, that's is.

In this case, it was a wrong bet for him, so he didn't turn up his money to $90k and for the majority of us here, we can only cringe and says that he could have made the bad decision. But this is OP's money and so we can't really blame him for this kind of risk bet.

Greed. That's the only reason. He wanted to earn more money than he already had, which was a lot of profit he could get.

He probably won't be able to get that amount again in one day as I'm sure it is due to his luck coming at the right time. But he can bet again with his remaining money and hopes to hit one big win. But I don't know because it also depends on analysis and luck. If he is lucky, he can win a lot of money. Otherwise, he would lose again.

partially withdrawing funds is definitely better but the problem is OP may be over confident because maybe within a week he has a winning streak and naturally the dopamine in the brain increases which causes one to feel happy and believe that the next bet will win.
I say this because I was in a position when I managed to double my money from $ 50 to $ 1000 but in the end they all lost because of overconfidence. maybe, being confident is very good but it would be better to use good control not to spend all the money.

That's what called as luck, he can turns his $4000 to $90,000 because he was lucky, but when he want to turns his $90,000 become $180,000 he's not lucky anymore.

It's true he might be a billionaire and he don't mind to lose $90,000, it's just a peanut for him. But if $90,000 is a big money for him, he's a gambling addict. A gambling addict isn't just a bad luck gambler, they're greedy and want to make money in gambling.

One real lucky for you, rare happen, maybe say 1 in 1000, rare, but you managed to win sports betting bet, for me top OP and good luck for you.

Gambling is indeed unique, sometimes we often see members here crying about losses, but OP did something extraordinary $ 4k to $ 90k, fantastic, anyone wants to be like that, maybe luck has not been on our side, including me you have a good impression to display your victory here, hope that other members can follow in the footsteps of winning your bet, congratulations and success for OP in the gambling arena.

Looking at your win today i think sports betting might actually be real, dunno.

It doesn't matter, friend, try again later, you are a true gambler who dares to bet big than what you believe in, but this will be an important lesson for you that all winning bets will not continue in a row. You will find that you will definitely experience defeat once in a while so use bets another day wisely, I'm glad to hear of your courage to renew your failed bet here.

Usually people prefer to share their wins than their losses, but here you share your experience and your luck made $4k to $90k and then you bet big on it, but it's really regrettable hope you get another chance and luck later. good luck trying again guys

A greedy person will never be satisfied, he will continue to think that it is lacking. want to get more profit without realizing that the risk will come and teach him the lesson that he will lose it all.
Hoping for one big win with one bet, it could make him filthy rich and could lose it all in a flash. And the analysis carried out will also have no effect if the opposing team has greater luck. Losing $90,000 for me would be unimaginable, I'd rather use my 10% to gamble and use the rest to build another business or trade crypto.

Greed makes one blind. While he had the opportunity to get a handsome amount of money in his bank account he chose to go for more.
Either he is too greedy or he is ultra rich and $90k isn't a big deal for him.
I think he is already a rich person and hence he had bet all in on $90k and didn't care much about his losses.
There are many such people who bet big and lose big and don't care much about their losses.

I wonder if this screenshot is not manipulated, because you know everyone could change such stuffs of websites, but If you truly placed a $90k bet, I must say I'm sorry for your huge loss. It's quite uncommon to see someone gamble such a large amount of money on a single bet, I think I never seen someone who placed more than 50k$ in a bet before. The fact that it came close to being a win only adds to the disappointment and it really feels bad. My suggestion would be to move forward and avoid taking excessive risks with gambling. Instead, consider using some of your earnings to enjoy life in different ways, such as traveling to other countries or engaging in other enjoyable forms of entertainment.  :)

I imagine the OP is on a drinking requiem for a lost bet, a Viking burial for the dream of his fortunes.  If he played that much even in loss he'll get some kickback, the website will allow him to collect a monthly reward and he can venture this towards the next bet.    The basic advice easy to see in hindsight is to make sure to get back the original stake along the way.   If you get back your original money it will allow you to repeat an attempt regardless of your luck this time.  
  Maybe Im too much of a pessimist alot of the time also, my backbone is of a jellyfish consistency for adventures like this one but still theres some worth in preparing for the worst and hoping for the best; don't be all of just one of those things be both and arbitrage advantages from the stability many dont have.

And we should stop after we can get a win because we don't know if our luck can come again in the next round or if it will just disappear. And by stopping that, we can enjoy the winning money, especially if it's the big money we can get. So don't waste the winning money because we got it hard, so we must appreciate it. We can gamble again after resting so our minds don't think about another win. And that can make us more relaxed in playing and we don't really hope to get lucky again because luck can't always be with us.

😂 Haha
I can imagine that as well, OP made a very grievous mistake by allowing emotion to drive his decision, growing $4000 to $90,000 probably made him think or believe himself to already be a professional predictor who can never be wrong, he allowed his emotion to give him false confidence and that's what lead to him losing everything back at the end of the day..
$90,000 bucks is not small amount of money, and no matter how op try to be a man and bear it, the thought of losing such money will always hit him hard and way him down, most especially, if he is like the average gambler out there who probably have never touched an amount of money such as that in the past..

I believe this have taught him a good lesson, and if he's going to gather the balls to stage a come back, he won't make this type of mistake again.

He has a Pantastic victory, I am quite tempted by what he got that much in a period of one week.

For normal people like us, of course what is done OP is not an imitation, this is beyond my ability to decide the number of gambling.
Maybe he has a lot of money in his bag, and that much is only coins for him, which he can get easily, so no need to worry about money.
But even if he can easily get the amount of money, I strongly agree with you that he needs to take a vacation in betting, if not, with an increase in a gaping scale like that can make people fall easily, and return to the under his economy.

Gambling After getting a big win, some rest is definitely necessary. A person too panicked not to lose his money. The OP wants to bet confidently here because he has a history of winning a good amount of money in consecutive weeks but he should also consider that since he has good results throughout the week, he also has a chance of losing. However, it will not be easy for ordinary gamblers like us to participate in such bets.

This does seem to serve as a cautionary tale. I know I would never consider gambling that $90K in this scenario. Turning $4K into $90K would be the win for me… You could invest that and get $3K a year for the rest of your life. That’s what I would consider the win. Must have been a hell of a rush watching 90K disappear though.

OP, I am glad and disappointed that you both won 90k and lost it. As far as gambling goes, I think it suffices to say that you managed to entertain everyone here with your lack of planning and risk-management skills. If you ever make winnings, be sure to take some of that money and put it in the "do not touch" pile. You could have at least secured half your winnings. All in bets are never worth it. I hope you have learned something from your mistake.

For everyone else, I guess this thread serves as a decent learning moment. ;D

Me winning $90k from $4k seems like I have run out of luck to use and I wouldn't dare push it even further. I'll get $10k from it and try to bet it on some other things and keep the rest to maybe create a business that will generate an income passively. That's the smartest move as you pointed out, although in the heat of the moment (and when people are feeling really lucky), they can't think straight and their eyes are on the prize mainly, disregarding all reason and common sense.

A clear-minded person, he will not go any further because of his ambition, of course if I get a big win I will think about the future that I have to make from the betting money by investing or other things that can benefit you guaranteed, we might say by setting aside even 10% for the bet back was more than enough but what happened with having a big win from the start having to lose a big bet was so sad that even he would probably regret it.

I see all the comments point to the more positive thing not going all-in in one bet because it will be fatal if he doesn't get lucky again.

I agree, this was one of the worst decisions ever to bet this much one a single game and it turned out to be a wrong one. But people are forgetting that he was the one who claimed that he turned 4k into 90k as well, which means that he understands this game and it was not really all that far away from this bet being a win neither, one more shot going in means he has 180k instead.

All in all if he was capable of turning 4k into 90k then I am guessing that he will be capable of getting another win streak like that and turn whatever he has left into profit as well. I am hoping he would do that because I do not want to see anyone losing all this much all at once. I get smaller losses that doesn't hurt your life, but this is huge money whoever you are, wherever you live.

No doubt it was one bad decisions from my perspective, one that i wont be able to take but, if you look at the proceedings of the bet, 3 goals was possible. If not for the lost penalty that dragged the first half to a 1 goal is to 0 ending, 1 goal in the second half was something you could always expect to result. I think the user did expect a both team score result as well to have draw 3 goals closer to a realisable outcome but, neither of that happened.

His choice for a single bet was some of the best decision, it minises the risk but, this wasn't one that would play out.

If you look at the OP's previous threads, you'll see that from time to time he comes to the forum to tell some awesome story. But after a few of them, I no longer have confidence (not at all hehe) that everything he says is happening in reality. I don’t blame anyone, but this behavior looks strange (I remember how in his regular topic he advertised, it seems, the TG channel).

Came back to see if this was a car wreck and seems to be.  That one stings and this happens all too often.  A great run of betting only to be taken away with one wrong decision.  OP, have ypu ever won a bet of this size is this a normal betting range for you?  I'd be gutted if I lost that much in one go around. 

Certainly sad, but I don't think he'll be relishing over this loss. He's worked with such a staggering amount in the past and I'm pretty sure he'd have the chance to work with such amount once again in the future. Just easy come easy go as they say. He'll get back the money he lost from this ordeal, and backtracking if he wants to be disillusion himself to cope he can just say "I only lost 4 grand" lmao, cause that 90 grand from the looks of it was never his for the taking in the first place.

Also, you're not a pessimist, you're a realist. Just cause you don't want to risk losing all your money in one go over a single bet doesn't necessarily mean that you're a coward. You're maximizing your chances of making sure you keep the 90 grand, which in my opinion is far better than the promise of a higher pay.

You the man OP, you won it big and I just feel that you have the right strategy for the game or was it that it was your lucky week. Putting your wins back to gamble shows sign of addiction and greed,I hope you know that this time you might loss and will not be as lucky as winning $90K. You should have remove some fraction to gamble with and have fun with some fraction and if possible use some fraction to achieve something remarkable. When I won big then all I did was to the money to take care of some of my major problems.

To me this is pretty crazy, but on the other side of things I know that you can't win big if you don't bet big.  I've never had the stomach that many gamblers/better do that can allow myself to even think about making a starting big as close to that $4,000 bet you made, let along a $90,000 bet. 

That being said, this upcoming NFL season I think I'm going to follow the lead of a lot of successful gamblers and start betting bigger.  I unfortunately don't have enough knowledge in any other sports to feel confident betting such large sums, so I'll have to wait the 3 months roughly until the NFL is back.

Best of luck moving forward OP..certainly interested in any big bets you make going forward.

You are very brave, a very brave player for betting. Because you made huge money in one week which is rarely seen in history. And even with the fear of losing money you go ahead with the betting and continue betting with honest courage. Here I mean that you are very good at enjoying the game which is why you are betting huge sums of money despite the fear of loss. But I hope you win this match as well because veteran betting rarely misses. Great to see your great success, keep going.

A mistake can turn into a fortune if @OP is winning.  We might have stated a different statement and congratulated him if ever he won the bet.  I never think that it was a mistake since @OP is confident in his bet and had accepted the consequences of his action.  It is that the winning this time is not for @OP and I wish him better luck next time.


Indeed it was crazy but I believe @OP thinks it is worth the try since I believe he is very knowledgeable about the sports and is capable of predicting the right outcome.  Its that the variable just kicked in making @OP lose the bet.

Sad but true argument, I have to agree with this one. They don't care how hard it is to earn such amounts, they usually care how to build more and more so they can lose more to feed their gambling addiction. The future is not bright for such types of gamblers, their addiction leads to a burst lifestyle sooner or later. This can be a start point of a gambler who lost everything to chase big wins and he never makes cashout when the winning amount is less than $100k.

I just wonder why OP did not consider taking the $12k and just bet $78k so in case you lose you are still happy with the fact that you still double your initial bet now OP is disappointed with losing everything, I will secure my bet or my bankroll before I go all out so I have no hard feelings if I lose.

When betting we should not be 100% confident of the results this is gambling anything can happen, but OP has a different perspective he is back on the drawing board but taking profit should be part of his next strategy.

OP was carried away by his greed acts, he wanted everything in the flash of an eye, not fitting in the shoes, one may have possibly thought of investing in actual business rather than wasting such large sums in gambling, which is extremely risky. I know how it feels to have a valuable portfolio and lose it all due to a simple mistake. Significant sums on a single game, one of the riskiest bets I've ever seen. Is this risk or utter greediness? He should never gamble with passion and confidence, even if he is consistent in this field. Because our plans do not always go as planned, we should plan for option B in cases where our initial intentions fail.

It is not possible to get success in gambling without risk. But I will not support betting with full of my bankroll either. Because if I lose I have to arrange the money again. So I will try to bet in an amount where even if I lose I will have no regrets and I will be able to gamble normally afterwards. If I get a big win and lose it all due to a small mistake, that big win is worthless. I would never take the risk the OP took. Because my assets and plans will be different, I have to manage my gambling systematically in order to stay in gambling for the long term.

You can never win in gambling if you're unable to control your emotions. Earning money is not so easy as it seems in gambling. OP case is a perfect example where he took action purely based on his emotions and greed.

This is just one example, there may be many of such activities and actions taken by the gamblers that may result in loss of funds. If people stop being greedy, they can somehow save their savings or winnings in gambling. I hope other people will learn lesson from OP and do gambling responsibly.

Greed is always owned by every gambler and this is the nature of a human being so that only a few people are able to control greed when it comes to gambling sessions.
OP wanted a sizable win that's why he couldn't be satisfied with what he got before his goal was achieved but in the end he lost all the betting money.
I myself have done the same thing several times where when I got a win it wasn't interesting but used it as a whole to be able to win even bigger.
I want to regret it but everything has happened and all I can do is use that experience to learn that greed can make someone broken.

One should never bet with a full stream of total assets. Because if you lose, where will you get the resources to bet again, so you should divide the resources into smaller bets so that if you lose, you don't have to borrow resources to bet later. Once the OP wins here and owns a long asset he shouldn't have bet all his assets afterwards. (Because covetousness is sin, sin is death) This is especially true of gamblers because I myself have lost wealth over and over again through greediness. Especially when the money goes to the betting just keeps going and a lot of money has to be borrowed at the last minute. The above strategy should be used to avoid such debts.

How I wish I saw this post before you made a ridiculous bet, I would have advised you against it. See, it's a thing to know how to gamble very well, but it's another to be responsible and managerial in your gambling. Without the last two, you are nothing and will always be susceptible to losing everything.

This might sound hurtful, but I congratulate you on this loss and going back to the drawing board with nothing. At least, it would teach you a lesson that you should use your sense while gambling. It's a lesson, take it in good fate, but next time, learn how to divide such a big fortune into at least 10 parts (1/10). By this, it would have greatly reduced your risk exposure even if greed is dragging you.

in another thread OP said that he is good at gambling can make $ 1000 into $ 10k even more, I said he is like a crazy gambler who dares to bet big, he is only obsessed with getting $ 1 million dollars for each bet and multiples for that he dares to bet with his winnings even though it's a lot of money, he doesn't seem to care about it.

We never know the background of the OP who knows he is a rich man who has the money to multiply his money to $ 1 million dollars from a low initial capital or conduct experiments from his gambling style to be followed by many people, but in my opinion it's just a waste of money . still want to see another OP's guts for another big bet

From our perspective it's big loss and you should have taken a break from gambling if you were able to turn $4k into such big amount instead of going all in on a single bet so better luck next time and feeling bad for your loss bjt can't do anything about it now.But there are some big gamblers taking risk and rewards are high for them so hope you have profits also in future bets.

I also recommend that he should take a break, get perspective, and the right strategy how to control his greed, his ego is playing tricks on him,  if after you lose a big amount you are not supposed to go back to the drawing board and trying to recover your losses, there is a battle that's not worth continuing and there are right battles to continue, pick the right battle.
OP should use logic over ego and pride, if you think you are good then control your bet if you are winning make sure to at least take your initial bankroll before going all out.

Maybe at some point of his game. He already got tired on slowly but surely method and decided to have an all-in bet to save time and effort since he is confident on his bet which the result is just short with 1 goal. Sometimes I feel this way too but I never have the courage to do it since I value huge money.

I think his history of having huge amount before makes him fearless on bet like this. For us this is really scary but for him this just a normal big bet since he is on this same situation many times with much larger bankroll.

This is sad. Because you already turned your $4k to $90k that's a big achievement already. But you decided to go all in without hesitation for a bigger profit, unfortunately you didn't managed to win. Do you have regrets for what you did? Because it seems you're fine with what happened.

Sometimes we will only realize what we already have once it's already gone. If only a gambler is not greedy to ask for more, we can already enjoy the profit that's already in our hands.

Luck has a major role on our wins. I guess OP never understood that he was lucky on that day that he used 4k to win 90k. He thought it was is smartness or strategy and before he knew what was happening,he allowed his emotion to control him in a greedy way. That was why he never thought if he was doing the right thing. Now that he has lost it all,how does he feel happy or remorse. Knowing the right time to quit the game and self-control will safe one from big losses. OP, this should be a lesson for you next time that if you win big,it wasn't your skill or strategy but luck,so that you can just quit the game and gamble the next day or use little fraction of your profit to gamble.

judging by the post history of the OP he seems like a man of a lot of money and he just has a dream of winning $1 million on sports betting.
so no wonder he lost a lot of money from his winnings even OP once lost $500k in winnings. try to look at the history of the post, you will definitely be interested in knowing the history of OP and I'm sure here OP just wants to feel the sensation of getting a big win that other people rarely get, namely a $1 million win.

but advice for the OP, it's better to lower your dreams, don't make yourself regret later after losing a lot of money at gambling.

I am very disappointed in op for his big lose. I can't still imagine that someone will use such a big amount of fund to bet because he want to make 2× profits. This is a big greed that could lead more loses if op do not relinquish from this kind of risky gambling.

Going through the post and his result ending at loses really pains me why he would took this kind of bad decision. I know that he might worth more than this but that money is even enough to buy a house and cars in it. He could have invested the money in cryptocurrency to make some crazy profits that would shock him with the outcome.

It would have been so exciting if OP think the way he just mentioned it is how it always works out for gamblers, it's not by mouth, it's by task and luck, when we gamble, we all have that generic confidence in what we do even though sometimes we are not too sure about it, I ones cannot be overconfidence with gambling because we only see the beginning but not sure of the end result, it's rather more better to win and testify than boasting on what is not yet achieved.

OP I think you live in a sea of money or else you are drunk all the time. The reason I say this is because every time you win $4000 to $90k you should bet 30% of the $90k. After that if you keep the remaining 70% for your future, you will have no regrets. If I were in OP's position, I would put 80% of the $90,000 away for my future. So I would like to say to those who are involved in gambling platforms that you should never participate in betting with huge capital on gambling platforms. Always participate in gambling with small amount of money. Don't make the same mistake as the OP.

I think OP has created another thread where he explained why he did this, he says that he has a dream of getting $1,000,000 through sports betting and by increasing a small amount and reaching there just like how he did it with $4k but lost it all when reached $90k, I know it's a very large sum and one could do a lot of things with it, especially a business could be set up with an amount that big, but I feel bad for him too.

Chasing your dreams is not a bad thing but I feel this way is not the right one, he might have managed to get it done if he had only used a part of that and kept the rest so that he could get some more chances and maybe could manage to reach his goal eventually.

I agree with you, we have to be able to divide our money into several pockets and it shouldn't be kept in just one pocket, moreover this is gambling where we know what the risks will be. Indeed, when we see money, if we win, who isn't tempted by the large amount that will be obtained. But we can't just look at winning, we also have to see what will happen if we lose, yes our money will be totally gone. But if we can share it, then if we lose in one bet we still have hope of winning in another bet. Things like this do look simple, but difficult to do.

The best way to think about it after missing that all-in bet, it's a good run before this bet converting $4k to $90k not sure what inside
OP's mind risking that huge amount of money.

It's a single all-in bet, very risky but if he able to grow his capital to that point, I'm assuming that he's really good just been carried away
maybe, that's why he risks it all.

Whatever the reason, it's a loss now and nothing can do aside from regretting the decision and then move forward to forget.

Big return? Eventually he even lost his initial $4000.

It seems $90,000 is an amount of money for op who is okay to lose it so he did not care even when he could withdraw any amount from it. May be a $50,000 or $80,000 and keep the rest to continue the entertainment. $10,000 is still a lot of money considering his deposit of $4,000.

But there is the saying, house always wins. House indeed won and became $4,000 richer to pay their bills and staffs and to make their balance sheet better.

As it inspires other gamblers to bet continuesly on sports betting, whoever is being inspired should not fail to read the later part of the op where it is made known that op later lost it all, it is a tale of good beginning with a very bad ending, op should not be emulated in his style of gambling/betting, those who follow the same style of betting as op should be rest assured they would surly end up with the same result as the op - and that is losing it all at when you least expect it, making money in gambling requires having a good sense, something op lacked because he allowed his addiction control his brains.

When a person dabbles in high-risk activities like gambling, theres always a thin line between ambitious risk-taking and outright greed. The initial story makes it apparent that OP leapt headfirst into the fray without a safety net. Who tosses $90k at a whim? Is it courage, or is it blind folly? The stakes are simply too high, especially for something as volatile as sports betting. He could've diversified, invested in a small business, real estate, heck, even volatile cryptocurrencies would've been a safer bet. Who just risks it all in one go? Is it the thrill, or the greed?

His dream of making a million through sports betting isnt wrong. But the path he chose to follow is certainly questionable. Heres hoping he learns from his expensive lesson and charts a safer course to his dreams in the future!

In the scenario you described, the individual could have chosen to withdraw a portion of their winnings, ensuring they retained a significant portion while still enjoying the entertainment. However, it appears that they continued to gamble and ultimately lost their initial deposit. As a general rule, casinos have a statistical advantage over their players. "It's always the house that wins" refers to this general advantage. Casinos must maintain their profitability over the long run by incurring many expenses and overhead charges.

When gambling, individuals should approach it with caution, set spending limits, and recognize that it is primarily an entertainment activity rather than a means of making a living. A responsible gambler knows when to stop, sets a budget, and understands the risks involved.

There are some kind of insane lucky streaks on both sports betting and casino games, this is mostly true for slots with maximum winning capacity. I know a few Diamond rank users on Stake who have won over $400k and lost it back due to being greedy. Even this user has decided to make $100k more with $400k house money but eventually house edge works and bingo. The ending scenario is the same but the process can be different depending on the user. That is why it is always recommended to withdraw at least 50% of the winnings so you will get something back after losing the rest. Just my 2 cents.

 If he had made a video before during after , he may have just possibly eventually got back the money with ad revenue or some sponsorship etc.   If you are going to make big streaks go all out like this in the ways most of us cannot afford to take the risk in not being sensible then you might as well make a video about it for the views for the bigger picture game.

Did I just get that straight?? Did you actually wager everything you have on this 2 odd ?? How 'bout if it doesn't cut!? ion really know how that's evaluated anyways but just be careful!!
Secondly, in the cash out option, it seems you're even getting lesser than what you staked and that's really where the problem lies .. thirdly, you're so confident to leave such an Amount in a casino wallet which is not even advisable... You're really lucky to be having them wins on the games you've wagered already - making it possible for you to be able to grow your 4k dolls to this... But always remember you need to be careful to avoid stories at the end... I'll even advice that you withdraw them funds and build a standard level of stake... I know it's more profitable to stake big, but it's also painful if it doesn't cut ..

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Well some people might have that ability and some like op have not any idea to do that in the first place , i personally multiple times hit 100++ odds that might if i make some videos about it would attract clicks & revenue at some point but well again people like me and op is not typical people loving to do that.

It's going to be one of many rate footages indeed to have $4,000 turned into $90,000 and bottled it to zero. Feel bad for op but yeah that's gambling.

We are looking at a high-roller bettor who is not comfortable with just doubling his bet, he is a winner take all player he is a sports bettor and he seems to be good at it, I don't see him beating the house he should have a more realistic approach to gambling and stop doing all out.

I don't how rich he is but if he keeps doing this for months he will lose a lot of money, and this will have an impact on his finances, my advice is to not imitate OP he is capable so he can keep up.

for one, if you are a sports bettor, you should not copy someone else's strategy as you have other things to consider first. your bankroll, and your knowledge about the sports itself.
if you will follow others, definitely, you will end up broke and no one will save you from your situation but yourself. you can only bet continuously if you have your bankroll continuously flowing and you know the sports at least.

With Casinos we shouldn't copy strategies which won't work. With sports betting the win is completely upon the knowledge the person have got relative to the game along with the luck factor. With sports betting we can follow the strategies, but the amount spent should be much connected to the affordability of us and not based on the gambler who's strategy is copied.

As long as we still have our jobs and business that can provide us an income, we can be able to bet again. We can also ask money to our family, friends and relatives. Maybe some do an all-in bet because they lack in patience. They want to double, triple, xxx.. their money instantly and maybe they don't want to stay long enough inside the casino because they still have something important to do outside.

I never tried borrowing money to gamble again but I admit that I am thinking about it last time but I'm thankful that I still didn't do it. It could only add up to our problems because there is no guarantee that we can win once we come back in the game.

You cannot be certain in these times that your job will stay the next day. It is always a good idea to start slow and divide multiple wins. It is always advised to gamble with 80 percent of your profit and never go all in. The problem with OP is that he/she lacks patience and has high greed which causes him to lose his mind, ending with losing everything. Such erratic behavior only happens when a gambler becomes overconfident. That is why patience is the biggest skill a gambler needs to have while creating a strategy.

Jesus Christ! Did you just waste a fortune and a life-changing amount on a single bet >:( This is not bravery, this is not smartness, this is not a good decision, this is not a good strategy, whatever your intentions were, I will be frank with you on this one that this is a big mess up, there is nothing you will say that will justify this money you wasted, it would have been better if you had just put 1k to reduce the risk, now you are not with the initial amount of $4000 and the $90,000 you had in mind as greed didn't come as well. Just so you know, I removed the image you added to your OP I quoted, it wasn't necessary for the world to see, you should see it alone and swallow it yourself. :-\ :-\

Actually, we could do with what the OP did in his staking. it's just that mentality and discipline are needed in every bet. Moreover, what we are discussing here is sports betting which incidentally provides a high winning option compared to casino betting. ideally we bet on single bets, but by multiplying each win. if betting multibet, the risk will be very vulnerable. one more thing, what OP is doing in his betting will involve patience. that means, the OP doesn't bet on many games. for example, out of the 10 scheduled matches that will be held, the OP might only choose 1 bet. even then, after going through a long selection and research. and the team with the most potential, is the choice that will be at stake.

To be honest, i can do it but not guaranteed to be able to do like the OP posted in this thread. well, the problem lies in what you say. basically, every time we make a bet, we don't guarantee a win, even though we have gone through research and analysis methods. point is, the OP is too obsessed with what he's targeting. whereas, not always we will win the bet. however, at least I quite applaud what the OP did. at the very least, he proved that he could win the gamble to an extent that most of us likely wouldn't. because for me, what OP is doing is getting profit. the difference with me, just betting for fun. even then, with a small bankroll.

Or are we to say that it was because O.P made his game public that was the reason why he/she lost? Because I'm still thinking.. Moreover, I still believe that for O.P to have staked all $90k on a single game, is a clear sign he/she is an already established individual who is financially buoyant and seems to have been recycling such huge funds a long time ago, of which I don't think will be hard for him to get back on track anytime soon. However, I still agree with the first speaker not to always stake all our funds on a single game no matter how confident we seem to have over a particular game, as most times the unexpected happens when we least expect it.

It is obvious that if you can make such a high bet then the OP could have done this before, but I will admit that risking everything on a single bet does not seem like the best strategy to me, after all even if you happen to win the risk taken was simply too high for my tastes, it would have been better to just take smaller bets, that way even if you happened to lose several times in a row the damage to your capital would have been minimal and you will have a chance of eventually recovering all the money which has been lost.

Each person does have different style and different approach on things on which it would really be might seeing that this all-in bet is really that way too risky or something not that enjoyable but instead it would be ideal
if it would really be sliced up on partitions then it would really be lessening out the risks on blowing up that 90k in one go. If we do see the estimate payout then its big which it is really that x2 of the bet amount
but we know that there's always that 50% chance of losing between losing and winning on a particular game.

If OP do able to bet up something like this big on a single match then he had get used to on betting into other games as well with this kind of betting behavior.It is really just that other or most
gamblers or bettors cant really be able to comprehend on what kind of betting behavior does he has. It not something that everyone could be able to do so due to this very big amount
on a single game.

Each gambler has a different mindset and gambling strategy when it is about winning big, some gamblers like to make smaller steps and accumulate all profit at the end of the journey while other gamblers like to risk small and hope to win big one day. The last category gamblers are in sports since the chances are higher to hit a big multi-combo with average odds in sports bookies. Several times I have tried to make such bets but it doesn't work for me as expected. I am type of the gambler who likes to bet 1/100 of the bankroll and make some profit when it is time to leave the casino.

This is crazy. Not sure how I didn’t se it sooner (or if I did then I forgot). I couldn’t imagine making such a massive bet. OP must be a wealthy dude to be able to toss nearly six figures at a sporting event. Props for doing it publicly and announcing it beforehand. That must have been one hell of a nervous game to watch.

The OP is hurt and he might be weeping after the loss, but what else he can do now other than regretting. I feel really bad for the guy and like you I also saw the post right now, but felt very bad after seeing him losing the whole money. The OP could withdraw half of the money and would enjoy his life for many years, however when someone becomes too greedy then that person get blind and his/her mind stops working because of greed. The guy has done a great mistake and he would always remember the event. I hope that others including me would learn from the mistake of the OP, and we should never ever do something like this. Luck doesn't favor all the time and in sports it really doesn't, it's one of the best lessons which a gambler could learn.

If I knew the guy and was aware before the bet was being made, I would have put something the other way against the bet.  Least I could do so that I could buy some beer in consolidation if the bigger bet had lost.    Its not really possible to avoid losses but I very much want to avoid the all or nothing approach just from the vast experience of how any game can end randomly and not the result it should have been or was most likely.   In sports betting you can never tell if the players are tired out from travelling, distracted or just recovering in some way, injuries, anything at all can be the random factor that disrupts your idealized view of the game.

You are right, but then some (I should call them professional gamblers) still put all this you mentioned into consideration while casting their bets, it is true that a regular gambler like myself don't care to now what if the team are tired from traveling , or just recovering from illness, injuries or anything similar, most of us don't care about this things and also consider them important to have an impact on the outcome of a game, but the professionals do, and maybe that is what indeed makes them professionals - having to look at every angle and every and anything that could have an impact to the outcome of the game and betting according to the findings sure does increase the chances of winning, but I will still want to argue that it's not always like most would think.