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Title: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: giorgiomoroderr on June 06, 2023, 02:39:41 PM
Hello first of all, although my membership is new, I have been consuming and following BitcoinTalk content for 3 years. Due to my work, I actually enter frequently. I support projects as a Community Manager.

My question is this: You know that Bounties is a system that has the most user traffic on the site and most people can generate income. I want to do a bounties campaign with the company I work for. But I have such a question/problem; Is there a tool or system other than manually checking whether the people who write comments are doing the tasks I give? Because when it comes to distributing the rewards, there is a serious labor force. In 2023, doing such a job manually feels a bit like manual labor.

Thanks in advance for your answers and solutions BTC


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Little Mouse on June 06, 2023, 02:53:13 PM
I have managed few bounty campaigns. I have always checked all of them manually, well, I have hired one forum user to check social media activities. For the rest, I check manually.
I don't know if there's anything like that so far. I don't think there is because it's not possible. You can't check the quality, you can't ensure what they are posting etc. Manually checking is the best option. For the mentioned manual labor, it's work vs the reward you are getting.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: PX-Z on June 06, 2023, 03:00:31 PM
But I have such a question/problem; Is there a tool or system other than manually checking whether the people who write comments are doing the tasks I give?
I remember LoyceV and other member made a project like this i dont remember if its tryninja or DdmrDdmr or both. Example features are the manager can see what specific board a user posted, number of characters, etc. I don't if those project are still existing though


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Dunamisx on June 06, 2023, 03:08:27 PM
My question is this: You know that Bounties is a system that has the most user traffic on the site and most people can generate income. I want to do a bounties campaign with the company I work for. But I have such a question/problem; Is there a tool or system other than manually checking whether the people who write comments are doing the tasks I give?

It all depends on your choice on how you wanted to conduct the campaign management, but i bet you need some kind of experience being a manager, you can contact some other managers here on the forum maybe they could give you clue on how they engage managing a campaign but i will like to inform you that it could be demanding as easy as it could appear, not until you started you may not know what and what constitute managing a group of people.

Because when it comes to distributing the rewards, there is a serious labor force. In 2023, doing such a job manually feels a bit like manual labor.[/b]

The major area is to know how you could set the campaign rules, AN thread, criterials to accept participants, knowledge of the use of excel spreadsheet and counting of the eligible posts and boards, definitely there should be an app or a website you can use but am not a campaign manager, so i may not have this kind of information since since it's not my field but i appreciate those campaign managers out there, they are really working hard indeed.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Jawhead999 on June 06, 2023, 03:08:54 PM
@OP I think if you're don't want to check manually your participants work, it's better if you're don't start become a bounty manager and let the experienced managers who're doing that.

I remember LoyceV and other member made a project like this i dont remember if its tryninja or DdmrDdmr or both. Example features are the manager can see what specific board a user posted, number of characters, etc. I don't if those project are still existing though
AFAIK it's only posts in this forum, not social medias. Usually a bounty program is mostly related to social medias, I don't think there's a tool to track specific users in social medias.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Adbitco on June 06, 2023, 04:53:19 PM
If you can't managed a campaign it's better you seek for a campaign manager who will work for your project or the project you intends managing their campaign. One thing for sure is that not all participants would be sincere working on your campaign, some participants are capable of copying other people's post link and work to resubmit it on your bounty thread and it's time consuming while trying to fetch those users out.

My best advise is that, get reputable campaign manager such as Hhampuz, Brainboss, Juler12 or bountydetective even yahoo62278 I think they are good in managing a campaign if you feels the task is too voluminous for you to handle.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Hyphen(-) on June 06, 2023, 05:50:34 PM
My question is this: You know that Bounties is a system that has the most user traffic on the site and most people can generate income. I want to do a bounties campaign with the company I work for. But I have such a question/problem; Is there a tool or system other than manually checking whether the people who write comments are doing the tasks I give? Because when it comes to distributing the rewards, there is a serious labor force. In 2023, doing such a job manually feels a bit like manual labor.

Thanks in advance for your answers and solutions BTC
There are numerous bounty campaign managers in the forum that have different campaign guidelines that they believe will satisfy them in order to get the task done properly; hence, there are various ways to guarantee your participants are doing the right thing you are paying them for.

As a campaign manager, you must devote your time to supervising the work of your bounty participants, which I am convinced is the primary responsibility of a campaign manager. If you feel it will be stressful for you, you can seek assistance from any campaign manager on the forum, or you can engage any of them to handle the campaign on your behalf.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: LoyceV on June 06, 2023, 05:55:53 PM
But I have such a question/problem; Is there a tool or system other than manually checking whether the people who write comments are doing the tasks I give?
I remember LoyceV and other member made a project like this i dont remember if its tryninja or DdmrDdmr or both.
I have my convenient (paid) service for signature campaign managers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273876.0), but that's for signature campaigns paying in Bitcoin, not for bounty spammers that spam Bitcointalk and social media.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Pmalek on June 06, 2023, 06:32:22 PM
If you want good results, you have to apply yourself and do the work that is needed. Don't start a campaign just for the sake of running a campaign if you don't know how to manage it. Bounties are pretty useless nowadays. One of the biggest mistakes campaign managers can do is to accept everyone into their campaigns. They don't make quality assessments, or pay attention to what their members submit.

If you want good contributions, pay quality members to deliver. If you want quantity with shit quality, act the way most other bounty managers act and simply don't care about the assignments submitted to you for review.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Eh Moo Nah on June 06, 2023, 06:39:51 PM
Hello first of all, although my membership is new, I have been consuming and following BitcoinTalk content for 3 years. Due to my work, I actually enter frequently. I support projects as a Community Manager.

My question is this: You know that Bounties is a system that has the most user traffic on the site and most people can generate income. I want to do a bounties campaign with the company I work for. But I have such a question/problem; Is there a tool or system other than manually checking whether the people who write comments are doing the tasks I give? Because when it comes to distributing the rewards, there is a serious labor force. In 2023, doing such a job manually feels a bit like manual labor.

Thanks in advance for your answers and solutions BTC

If you wish to proceed with your Plan, I can Help you with small tasks Like checking posts if it's quality. Social Media and etc. also I have like 6 hours of Free time a Day (and can extend)  so I can be  your Helping hand if you need one.





Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: FatFork on June 06, 2023, 06:45:19 PM
But I have such a question/problem; Is there a tool or system other than manually checking whether the people who write comments are doing the tasks I give? Because when it comes to distributing the rewards, there is a serious labor force. In 2023, doing such a job manually feels a bit like manual labor.[/b]

Thanks in advance for your answers and solutions BTC

It depends on the specific context and requirements of the task you have in mind. There are indeed tools and systems available that can assist with verifying whether people who write comments are completing the assigned tasks. These tools can automate certain aspects of the process, reducing the need for manual labor. As he already mentioned, LoyceV provides a reputable service for signature campaign managers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273876.0) that can help track and evaluate user contributions, while ninjastic.space offers API endpoints that can be used with a little bit of programming knowledge to streamline the verification process. But it really depends on what you want to automate and the specific needs you have. While there are tools available, you have to understand that not everything can be fully automated. For example, tasks like evaluating the quality of posts will likely require manual intervention. So, if you could provide more details about what you specifically want to automate?


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Pmalek on June 06, 2023, 07:04:00 PM
If you wish to proceed with your Plan, I can Help you with small tasks Like checking posts if it's quality. Social Media and etc. also I have like 6 hours of Free time a Day (and can extend)  so I can be  your Helping hand if you need one.
Looking at this post of yours and the way you wrote it, I doubt you have the skills to judge what is good and what is bad. But it's not my campaign, so I don't care. Anyways, this is the Meta board and not a services thread where people are applying for different positions. Feel free to offer your services in private. Click the preview button before submitting a post and go through it looking for mistakes. It's useful if used correctly. 


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Eh Moo Nah on June 06, 2023, 08:31:54 PM
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I was really hoping for a positive Feedback and I do Appreciate what you have said. I was just Today years old to know the use of "Preview button"

Thank you so much for the Feedback Mr.Pmalek. This is Noted.



Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: PX-Z on June 06, 2023, 09:36:27 PM
AFAIK it's only posts in this forum, not social medias.
..... I don't think there's a tool to track specific users in social medias.
Ye, that's what i replied to, only for bitcointalk posts. And nope, there are many existing services online that monitors and track social media posts, like, reacts, shares, comments etc.

I have my convenient (paid) service for signature campaign managers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273876.0), but that's for signature campaigns paying in Bitcoin, not for bounty spammers that spam Bitcointalk
Ah, yes, i forgot, that's the difference.

@OP your only choice is to manually check them like most manager do



Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on June 07, 2023, 07:07:14 AM
You can imagine what the forum will turn into if the bounty hunters sniff out that their bounty reports are being received by some machine. The forum is already full of AI spam, and AI posts are only deleted by moderators that are written by newbies. And if we trust the machine to check, we will see hundreds of posts of shitposting.
OP, not everything in this world can be automated. If you think that the project you want to promote deserves good publicity, do not waste time on trifles. Check everything yourself, otherwise, we can assume that quantity is important to you, without quality.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: bettercrypto on June 07, 2023, 09:48:46 AM
Most of the bounty managers here on the forum platform who have been around for a long time and have experience in managing bounty campaigns do their work most of the time manually, maybe even the other managers here there is a team in every campaign they have. And they probably have a group for this.

It's because one manager can't manage if there are a lot of campaigns because it's laborious, which means that even if they have a group, it's still done manually in my opinion. That's why if I look at it, being a bounty manager here is not just a matter of course because their responsibilities are also heavy and not easy to be honest.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Josefjix on June 07, 2023, 11:11:02 AM
If you can't managed a campaign it's better you seek for a campaign manager who will work for your project or the project you intends managing their campaign. One thing for sure is that not all participants would be sincere working on your campaign, some participants are capable of copying other people's post link and work to resubmit it on your bounty thread and it's time consuming while trying to fetch those users out.

My best advise is that, get reputable campaign manager such as Hhampuz, Brainboss, Juler12 or bountydetective even yahoo62278 I think they are good in managing a campaign if you feels the task is too voluminous for you to handle.
I assume the OP is seeking for some type of bot that automatically checks posts; this is doable for signature campaigns, but I'm not sure how it would work for other social media campaigns.

Managing bounties is difficult for those managers who truly care about the forum and their clients' needs because there will always be tons of cheaters. This is normal behaviour for those who use bounties as a source of income since the more alts you have, the more tokens you will likely get, so everyone tends to have as many as possible. I would recommend that the manager use Ninjasty.space for post count, since it is much easier and gets additional individuals to his management team.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: robelneo on June 07, 2023, 01:12:34 PM
Save yourself of the trouble and just hire bounty managers like Royse or Hhampuz for this job, they have years of expertise in managing the bounty, this is to avoid complaints coming from bounty hunters, to check if there are cheaters, and to see if they have done their task properly.

Bounty managing is not something you can learn overnight and for a newbie like you you are prone to errors and this will have a bad impact on the project you are promoting.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: PytagoraZ on June 08, 2023, 05:27:08 AM
Are you serious about following this forum as a guest? I don't understand, no one follows a forum for 3 years and doesn't register. I know you are not being honest with that. But I'm fine


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: giorgiomoroderr on June 08, 2023, 02:18:11 PM
You can imagine what the forum will turn into if the bounty hunters sniff out that their bounty reports are being received by some machine. The forum is already full of AI spam, and AI posts are only deleted by moderators that are written by newbies. And if we trust the machine to check, we will see hundreds of posts of shitposting.
OP, not everything in this world can be automated. If you think that the project you want to promote deserves good publicity, do not waste time on trifles. Check everything yourself, otherwise, we can assume that quantity is important to you, without quality.

It is a good perspective, of course we care about the project and the campaigns. But I thought that I didn't know and that in such an automated world this could also happen. Now it makes sense to work with a reward manager and as you said we will audit the reward manager of course. It is critical for us that the reward system is fair


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: LoyceV on June 08, 2023, 02:47:27 PM
no one follows a forum for 3 years and doesn't register.
Of course that's possible. For instance, I've been using Stack Overflow for as long as I can remember. There's no need to register to read, and if sites start demanding registration, I usually just stop using them.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: giorgiomoroderr on June 08, 2023, 04:33:09 PM
Are you serious about following this forum as a guest? I don't understand, no one follows a forum for 3 years and doesn't register. I know you are not being honest with that. But I'm fine
Unlike some people, it is enough for me to see what people do, what people think. There are a lot of comments with similar thoughts (even in so few comments, there are people who say the same thing, repeat the same thing.) And since I am not a person who likes to make toxic comments like some people, I browsed the site a lot without the need.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Bushdark on June 08, 2023, 10:48:19 PM
Are you serious about following this forum as a guest? I don't understand, no one follows a forum for 3 years and doesn't register. I know you are not being honest with that. But I'm fine
Unlike some people, it is enough for me to see what people do, what people think. There are a lot of comments with similar thoughts (even in so few comments, there are people who say the same thing, repeat the same thing.) And since I am not a person who likes to make toxic comments like some people, I browsed the site a lot without the need.
That's since everyone of us has different reasons why they are here. Some persons might decide to come here(Since registering is not compulsory) and sought for information and leave. This is more of a community where we can always run to when we want to make enquiry or have some issues bothering us.

Those that wish to register to have access to some certain information would do that if they intend becoming a member of the forum to share there ideas and learn also from others. This is why some persons would create account and never bother to use the account because they have gotten the information they needed.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on June 09, 2023, 11:08:13 AM
No tool is yet discovered to check the hunters work and whole work will be checked manually. This is the reason bounty manager are demanding high fee for managing bounties as checking every single user work every week is time wasting and need previous experience. If any tool discovered then bounty managing will become so easy.

I worked as a checker in three bounties and found out that hunters are spamming every where(Bitcointalk, twitter other social). Most of them just doing copy pasting work. I warned many times but they still doing the same but projects are hiring because they need shilling.


Title: Re: User recruitment system for the Bounty system.
Post by: Lucius on June 09, 2023, 01:46:19 PM
Are you serious about following this forum as a guest? I don't understand, no one follows a forum for 3 years and doesn't register. I know you are not being honest with that. But I'm fine

I don't see why it wouldn't be possible, even though 3 years seems like a long time, I also visited this forum as a guest for more than 1 year before registering. Some people simply don't need to participate in discussions, some don't have time, and some people's English in writing is quite bad. I don't see what anyone would gain by not being honest about it, although maybe even if the OP had registered 3 years ago and wasn't active, he would be in the same place he is today.