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Title: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: Accardo on June 08, 2023, 09:05:34 PM
An anonymous person, known only by leonidas.og, signed a message on Bitcoin with the private key associated with the 2009 block 1018. We could recall that a forum member onesignature, in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5421158.msg61353840#msg61353840), signed a message using the private key associated to that block, last year, which attracted multiple attentions in the community. Yesterday, another person signed a message using the same private key, with the ordinal protocol. The inscribed message reads ord.io the ordinal explorer that leonidas is building, the person dmed leonidas.og on twitter about this and  leonidas decided to keep the person's name a secret. This block was mined by hal finney and sources from bitcoin news (https://news.bitcoin.com/another-mysterious-signed-message-appears-associated-with-the-2009-bitcoin-block-1018/) claim that Hal Finney's private keys got stolen, sold or hijacked. And the people in possession of the private key is using it to sign messages on the block and they're not showing any sign of stopping.  Here is the inscription: https://www.ord.io/11035214

What do you think about this strange signatures on block 1018?

https://twitter.com/LeonidasNFT/status/1666900463856279574

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyH1qPmWYAEQ9om?format=jpg&name=small


Title: Re: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: dzungmobile on June 09, 2023, 03:09:06 AM
What do you think about this strange signatures on block 1018?
I don't see strange from this message. Could you tell me what is strange in it, please.

Ordinals is very famous recent months but it was created recently, not in 2009. I could be wrong but I think the story possibly is

I am a developer and get access to that private key, know about that message.
I have idea to build tokens on Bitcoin blockchain.
I need a name for my project and one of idea for its name comes from the message.

Eventually I named it Ordinals because the message is ord.io that likely randomly.

That domain (https://who.is/whois/ord.io) was registered in 2017, not in 2009.

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Expires On2025-04-10
Registered On2017-04-10
Updated On2023-03-30



Title: Re: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: Husires on June 09, 2023, 03:55:55 AM
There is nothing strange here, the message was not signed with a specific date or a specific event that can only be known in the future, so such a message can be created today, yesterday or a year ago because it does not carry a historical character.

For example, I can sign a message in the name of “Bitcoin Flash” and in the future an update has been invented that makes Bitcoin transactions instantaneous and has been called by this name. Does this mean that I am right or did I have information in advance?

I don't have access to even confirm this message is valid and signed, can you post it in text form?


Title: Re: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: Blitzboy on June 09, 2023, 09:41:45 AM
The mystery around the signature from the 1018 block certainly fuels a cryptic narrative. Though, I'd advise caution in attributing this to theft or sale of Hal Finney's keys. It's a major claim and would require substantiated evidence to uphold. Considering the decentralized and secure nature of the blockchain, this could alternatively be a publicity strategy for the ordinal explorer that leonidas.og is developing. A publicity stunt, perhaps? Nothing draws a crowd more than a bit of enigma. What we must remember is that signing a message with a private key doesn't necessarily indicate ownership of the associated Bitcoins. It's a complex and multi-layered issue, worth following closely but with a critical eye.


Title: Re: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: Accardo on June 09, 2023, 10:23:54 AM
There is nothing strange here, the message was not signed with a specific date or a specific event that can only be known in the future, so such a message can be created today, yesterday or a year ago because it does not carry a historical character.

For example, I can sign a message in the name of “Bitcoin Flash” and in the future an update has been invented that makes Bitcoin transactions instantaneous and has been called by this name. Does this mean that I am right or did I have information in advance?

I don't have access to even confirm this message is valid and signed, can you post it in text form?

https://www.ord.io/11035214 you can get the text form there. I thought of it as strange since the private key is linked to Hal Finney and the address was created back in 2009, and only a few people can be able to sign a message with that private key. You can enlighten me more about how it works. And if it's not some weird thing many people would have done similar thing. I could see the surprise on different users when onesignature signed a message using that private key. What is the secret behind how they are doing it?


Title: Re: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: franky1 on June 09, 2023, 11:34:40 AM
its simple
if you read "onesignatures" alt accounts post history (casinotester0001 mainly) you will see he is a guy that buys prominent legendary private keys even if they have no funds in them. he was more interested in owning keys that used to be of some social importance so he can then sell some scammy scheme



Title: Re: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: logfiles on June 09, 2023, 10:52:46 PM
What do you think about this strange signatures on block 1018?
They are as important as nothing.

They (signatures) alongside the ordinals totally add nothing to the Bitcoin network, and therefore we should stop hurting our heads over things that don't matter.


Title: Re: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: PX-Z on June 09, 2023, 11:58:07 PM
What do you think about this strange signatures on block 1018?
Not so strange since the address is known to be owned by someone else position, particularly by OneSignature. It only means he signed the message, or that address he owned was sold to someone else or he was paid to make a signed message and inscript "ord.io" to make a hype about it — the ordinals. Because people are so hype when an old address is known to be still active after all this years.


Title: Re: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: Husires on June 10, 2023, 12:02:08 AM
What is the secret behind how they are doing it?

I remember a while ago that an account here was buying old addresses that had no balance. I thought that his goal would be to claim some forks, but this may be another reason to buy such addresses.
They simply pay you an amount of money in exchange for an empty wallet that you created, for example, in 2011 or 2010.
With that private key, they can sign such a message.


Title: Re: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: Captain Corporate on June 10, 2023, 01:04:26 AM
This is going to get more common, that's the important thing to keep in mind. With the inscription and all that, we are going to see a ton of people who will keep on having some "fun" with this and we all know that it will end in a bad manner without a doubt. Too many people will fall victim to this, there were tries to bring even satoshi back, thankfully nobody bought that but it was obvious from the start. So all in all it is true that we are not going to see this end anytime soon, plenty more will happen and I hope that it will not get any attention. So far it hasn't so I am guessing that it probably won't in the future as well but that doesn't mean that it will go on like this, maybe one day it will get attention and hurt some peoples finances if there is some marketing or something in it for something shady.


Title: Re: One more message inscribed on Bitcoin associated with the 2009 block 1018
Post by: adaseb on June 10, 2023, 04:44:21 AM
I think about 5 years back one of Hal’s kids moved some funds which were in one of Hal’s addresses. It was a small amount but i think his family was moving dust to send to an exchange and sell.

If you search all of Hal’s known addresses you will see a recent transaction about 5 years back and it was his kids that moved those funds. So maybe they are the same ones that signed the message for a fee.