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Hello friend...

I've been on this forum for a week. As a beginner, the first step in this forum is read some rules such as:
Newbies - Read before posting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0)
Writing a welcome message  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0)
 FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0)
Ratimov's Forum Guides, Tutorials & Lists (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277049.0)
And other thread in my local subforum

I think this forum has a lot of rules. To be honest, I don't fully understand it yet, but I'll continue to study it

I've tried creating a thread and many members have provided feedback. I am happy with their warm welcome. I've learned how to write with quotes, insert links, insert images, insert code, and more. I think it's not as difficult as I imagined before

I don't know if what I'm doing is right or not, but maybe I think it's the best way to start in this forum. Honestly, I'm still afraid of violating the rules and getting banned. I know there are many members who got banned, but I don't know what they did wrong

For the next step, maybe I will read about bitcoin wallets. I just got an electrum wallet, but I don't know what its features are yet. I thought I could learn it here for free.

Regards
Always take care of the family

What got them banned is likely either of plagiarism or sharing malwares or ban evasion (for users that were initally banned for any of the first two reasons). If you can avoid doing any of these you have a low chance of getting banned.

There is a thread about wallets^[1] you can read that would help guide your decision.
Electrum is one of the most recommended choices on the forum and you cannot go wrong with it. If you have any questions about their features along the way, feel free to ask.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1631151.0

- Jay -

Is this forum strictly against plagiarism? then what if I quote a part of another website's sentence as a reference argument in the discussion? is it a violation?


Yes I've found that thread, I've read it but still confused by some terms, like multi sign

"Quoting" something does not count as plagiarism at all. It is only plagiarism when you copy and paste a text without any reference to the original writer or any indication that it is copied, like using quote tags or "" in the text.

Multi sig indicates how many signatures are needed to sign a transaction. If you create a regular wallet, you own the private keys and can sign a transaction using it.
If you create a 2-3 multi sig wallet, there are three keys and two out of three of them are needed to sign transactions, so one party cannot sign without one of the others.
2-2 is used on bisq platform where both the buyer and seller are needed to sign any transaction being made. One party cannot sign without the other.

Multi sig can also be used by a single person to back up their wallets in different locations for more security.

- Jay -

Just to be sure, did you verify your electrum wallet? see tutorial at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240594.0

In any case, here's a brief description on what to expect on electrum, see: https://bitcoin.org/en/wallets/desktop/windows/electrum/
Note: other wallets as well as bitcoin related resources are also on there, you could try to explore the whole website as well.

Electrum Tutorials can be found on: https://bitcoinelectrum.com/ and we also have an Electrum child board if you have further questions, see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=98.0

You cannot actually understand everything at once, so it is normal to still be confuse, as you get accustomed with the forum you will understand both officiall and unofficial rules.

Plagiarism is the most frowned act upon not only on the forum. You can actually quote anything to either add to the point you making but be sure to add the right reference that leads to that article. Not adding any reference link makes the enter statement yours.


Un_rank has already explained the meaning of multi sig for you. Multi is just adding another security layer to your wallet where you have multiple keys and with at least two co signers before a transaction can be initiated. The most common multi sig are the 2-3 multi sig and the 3-5 multi sig, the higher the signatures the better the security. This kind of wallet can be set up when two or more people decide to hold their funds in a single wallet. This will protect one party from withdrawing  funds without the other party(s) getting informed.

I would advice that once you don’t understand something you can just search upon it on the forum and if you don’t find any then you can create a thread asking the questions

I really don't get your point of view for this thread; it just seems pointless. You know quite a lot of things already, which is enough to expose you to more new and educative contents. What do you want now? because you don't have any serious question you have asked on this thread. It's a good start that you have 28 merits and 28 activities; that shows a good start for yourself, but it doesn't call for any celebration; just stay cool and keep learning since you already know what to do and how to find yourself around the forum.

Welcome on board mate and you shouldn't  see the forum.as a very strict place but rather a home away from home.
There is basically  one offense in the forum that is seriously frown at, which plagiarism and anyone been caught in this act is hardly forgiven, so hence don't plagiarize and whatever you copied should be referenced.
Outside the above mentioned,  I don't think there is any very serious law in the forum, just do the right things, respect each member, engage in meaningful discussions, learn to accept criticisms and avoid scam or account buying which is frown at my users and not the forum as a whole.

There is nothing to be afraid of since you've got links about the guides in the forum and for you to avoid those violations which will result of being banned, you already have it and you just need to remember not to do it. Just make yourself familiar with those guides and rules so that you'll avoid them if you think that you're about to do it. Otherwise, you're doing fine as long as you'll never attempt to do any of those that's listed on the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)

You are a fast growing newbie for that matter as its clear that your knowledge about the forum is good and I will just tell something which will be of great  help which is fear is actually the best teacher, it helps us to be always conscious of what we are doing either going wrongly or right and since you already how intense the forum can and you have already stated that you covered most of the rules it better now to just read more so your knowledge on bitcoin and wallets like you said will be vast so you can help other like yourself learn.

Looking at your profile and your post history, I no longer consider you a newbie, especially for someone who drops a comment and posts like this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5253221.msg62387639#msg62387639.

The rules of the forum might look very huge for anyone to cover up the whole time if they said they wanted to start doing that before they could eventually start posting here. I will advise you to make those most important ones and be yourself in the forum. There are not many things about yourself for you to be so afraid of or interested in learning from. With time, one thing will lead to another, and you will eventually have to learn almost everything about the forum, including the official rules.

Punishment for violating rules is not only ban (there are other punishment), it depends on the rule violated by the user or how many times it was continously done before a user is banned. Here is a Thread about the rules of this forum Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg7955645#msg7955645)

It seems to me that you are already familiar with the forum, I don’t think you really need help. The forum rules are simple and easy to understand, only two things can get you banned; plagiarism and sending unsolicited message.

The thread by Ratimov that you quoted has educational materials about bitcoin wallets. You can also watch videos on YouTube, I recommend Andreas Antonopoulos videos.
  It’s not everyday you see a newbie that can make use of forum tables so well, which makes me doubt if this is truly his first time on the forum.

First of all, welcome to the forum. As a newbie, the very main focus is to learn through asking questions here in the forum and also doing your own research. There is a thread created that contains different links to a thread or topics that would be helpful in learning. The thread title is Beginners & Help Encyclopedia (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364418.0) and be sure to check it out. Anyway, the reason why many got banned is because of violating the forum rules and make sure you think that every rules that are violated will result in getting banned even though some of it are not getting banned but getting a negative trust which is most likely much the same as getting banned in my own opinion.

Yes, we all know you are ... infact, anyone that gets registered in here newly is a NEWBIE. Now that shouldn't have been your topic sentence at all; it doesn't seem really interesting to read that all the time, especially since that's the nearest phrase anyone would choose to use.. be salient!!
You're welcome!! I read that you're afraid of getting banned - no one likes that at all, but you shouldn't be afraid, which should be the reasons why you should get to work, and Know what you're doing in here just so you could keep doing it appropriately... Never feel belittled,.. we all started like you and we became what we are today... Consistency and focus is what I give to you!!  I DON'T MAKE POSTS JUST TO INCREASE MY COUNTS OR JUST FOR THE PERSON IN QUESTION, I BELIEVE THE NEW GENERATION WOULD GET TO READ AND KNOW ALOT WHEN WE CEASE TO EXIST IN HERE.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

The forum may have lots of rules like you said, but few rules must not be broken and those rules you should be wary of, such as plagiarism, spamming, AI contents, and using abusive words on members. Plagiarism and spamming are two easy route out of the forum, if boycotted. If you can use the forum without breaking few rules out of the many rules, you won't have any reason to be scared. When you are not sure, if you are getting things right, scroll through the rules again and refresh your memory. Also visit the mega board to know why some users with ban appeals are getting banned. It will enlighten you more on how to place yourself in the forum.

The first rank would be brand new before it will become a newbie rank when someone registered here in the forum but the ranks that are officially starts from newbie and even the thread with a title of merit and rank requirements starts at newbie. Yes, it's not interesting at all but there are some newbie rank account in the forum but already knowledgeable about Cryptocurrency and other related information. Let's not forget that some newly accounts here in the forum are not entirely newbies at all but only their account us newbie.

Well I think I understand where you are coming from but there is no rule and regulations that should be broken, yes some punishment for breaking a rule can be different from the other still there is always punishment for all rules that are broken.

Although if we are very honest keeping to the rules is very easy just be civilized and do what's right. What I would advice newbies is not to do the unnecessary things like making unnecessary post it may give you away as using your post to hunt for merit.

I think rather than that take your time to learn and then come back here with helpful post that isn't plagiarized then you would get good recognition and also the merit to grow your account.

The forum have zero tolerance for plagiarism and at that i advise you avoid anything of such to avoid getting your account banned, and if you must cite another person's work, then you must make sure that you properly have it referenced to the original content creator and never take responsibility for another person work in form of copy and pasting.


Making proper quote and including a link will go a long way in solving that issue if you have to post other people's work here.

Hello!

There are folks who have been around here for way longer than just a week, and guess what? We still don't have all the answers. That's precisely why this platform exists - to share knowledge and help each other out.

So, don't hesitate to ask if there's something you don't understand. It's way better to seek clarification than to end up doing something foolish, especially when it involves money. We're all in this together, and learning from each other is what it's all about.

Stick with basics. You don't have to worry about getting banned. People only get banned if they copy-paste from others and share any inappropriate link.
You can learn more from this board and other discussion boards. You don't need to create a thread for everything you can search and find any topic on this forum. If there is something new in your mind you create a thread and ask for help. 

I have learned about merit and activity systems. I have a goal to gain merit and activity at the same time. I learned a lot at the local board. Many members say that beginners don't need to think about merit, but I think it has to go together. I need to be able to progress quickly in this forum. I look at you, and you are a fast growing one. I want to be like you


Yes, I think it's easy to learn using this forum. I've tried several times to create a thread, and it works. I'm a blogger, so it's not difficult to study this forum. But to learn about bitcoin wallet, it's not as easy as I thought. Very complicated, especially if I read how to secure a wallet from hackers. I already know how to sign messages, but multi wallet and multi sign are still too complicated. One of the things that I'm having a hard time learning about wallets for is probably because I haven't made any transactions on my Electrum wallet yet. I read that there is a testnet electrum wallet, but I haven't tried it

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To all the members, I really appreciate you guys. I love your feedback, I love discussing here. My english is still bad, i still need google translate help. but my other goal here is to learn english. So sorry if my writing is bad

OP, if not for your rank I would have said you're not a newbie 😅. Lemme just act like you're really new here 😅. We have those set of people who learn very fast and you fall among those people (that's if you're a true newbie). When I first got here I was really scared in everything I do, even asking of topic related questions to high ranked members scares me even now😅.
Is best you don't know what those users who got banned did, since you know that if anyone violate the rules and regulations it gets bad for the person and his/her account I'd say you should just keep your head straight and continue doing the right thing by following the R&R of this Forum, if you keep doing that I don't see you getting into any trouble.



Is obvious that the OP has been here long before we both got here, but all I have to say is that the OP should avoid being a double face, it can lead him/her to start breaking the rules and regulations without him/her knowing, but can we see such happening?
Sometimes newbies are hard to believe that they're truely newbies and this OP has more experience than myself in this forum, I'm just saying though.

Yea... many people say I learned too fast here. I'm a blogger, I know how to write and edit posts, just need a little improv to understand this forum. It took me 1 week to read so many rules. This is not my first forum, I participated in several blogger forums. But to understand bitcoin and its wallet is difficult. Bitcoin is something new for me

The forum is not a place where you can learn everything in one day or where you can become an expert on everything.Please don't me wrong, but I'm trying to suggest that you can't learn everything at once and that you won't know everything because the forum contains so much information that it's impossible to even begin to understand. But if you follow the guidelines provided in the forums, nothing will lead to the banning of your account. So I kindly ask that you do. There are a lot of individuals who carry out the identical action.
And once more, simply being a member of a forum does not guarantee that you will obtain what you want or be able to advance in rank without much effort. You must produce a decent thread in order to earn the right to rank higher.

Maybe I can just learn quickly about how to write in this forum. I have read the forum rules and I understand a little. But to learn about bitcoins, altcoins, blockchain, wallets, etc. It's so hard. It was something new for me, and I couldn't understand it even though I had read it many times.

So many people who praise me about learning quickly, actually it's wrong. I just quickly understand about the writing method because it's easy for me. I started writing 4 years ago, at first I started writing on blogspot, now I write on the wordpress platform

You really made it clear and I thank you for that, like you said Bitcoin is something you need to understand very well and if you must get involved in it, a trading strategy is also needed. You can ask questions, we have traders in this Forum, someone like  zasad@  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2654005)
I feel he has much to let you know and this forum have so many that I don't know of.

I will explain it to you. If you use a translator, you can understand the essence of the post, which says that the more often you flash before your eyes, the more often you will be remembered, and merit will be given faster.


What the OP doesn't realize is that his useless flickering can irritate users with his frequently asked questions, to which he already knows the answers.
And many will simply add it to ignore so that it does not interfere with reading.
As an example of someone who is already starting to get annoyed. ;D


For example, in the question about plagiarism, the OP is obviously hypocritical:


look at the date

You don't have to be afraid to get started. As long as you don't make a mistake, you are fine. Many of them have been banned for violating the rules of this forum and you should try not to break them either.

You need to enjoy reading a lot of information in this forum; it is a long process to understand all the rules, information or opportunities to benefit. And it takes time and depends on how hard you study.

Some cannot go through the process because it looks like they never stop learning. And indeed, if we learn something, it will never stop because there must be something new that we must learn to understand.

Hypocritical?
Yes, I hate plagiarism, but plagiarism is sometimes needed for an argument. As a reference by citing the original source. So I asked, whether doing so is considered prohibited or not. So I need to ask that

You're confused about something. No one needs plagiarism and it is treated negatively all over the world. And in this forum it is treated extremely negatively. But if you post someone's text taken from the Internet and give a link to the source of this text, it is no longer plagiarism. And it's not forbidden, but you shouldn't abuse it either.

Yeah, a lot of people on the forum have been banned for plagiarizing, and I think that's because they didn't read the guidelines. Therefore, if you see someone write something and you want to use it in your own reply, you should quote that person or include a reference link before pasting. I think that's what confuses some new members and leads to their bans, and I can see why you're terrified of becoming one of them, but just remember that you can't learn everything at once; older members you see here started slowly and are now present, so don't rush, mate.
To avoid confusion, as you indicated, you need to study them whenever you have a chance until you are familiar with all of the forum rules and regulations, so I suggest you keep using these Read before posting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0) for better understanding

See this is not only the case with this forum but whenever you are using someone else content you should give credit to actual author not just portray it as your ideas or thoughts which is why rules are strict for plagiarism but if you want to quote someone like I am doing it's not considered as plagiarism because I am replying to you with my own words.So if you copy something from other sources just add source link for it or simply write them in quote as follows:



When there are say more then one users of the wallets they can setup multi sig wallet in which they need to sign the transaction and one person cannot make any transaction.Like say 3 of 5 multi sig wallet means there are total of 5 person but only three of them can sign the transaction to make it valid with their keys.This is usually setup whenever there's fund management and no single person is allowed to spend the coins with his keys.