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So newbies on this forum have made nice contributions to this  forum . however my question is apart from post quality how else can u notice a potential newbie on this forum.
Does post to merit ratio count?

Newbies are newbies, no potential newbies. Because when you make your first post and a little bit later, that post is counted to your account activity, you will become a newbie.

Potential is used for Potential Junior Member, Member, Full Member, Senior Member, Hero Member and Legendary Member.

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You can say merit per post ratio. Merit if you earn it from your posts, it shows your posts have quality or good quality, not zero value posts.

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I think your statement isn't very accurate regarding newbies contribution to the forum because most of them just do shit-posting or use AI to create the posts of long length which doesn't make sense to me. Most of the newbies aren't contributing anything to the forum, but they are making such posts to grab merits from reputed members so they could rank up in short span of time. I don't think that anything is wrong in ranking up, but when there is not much effort but use of AI and or rephrased content then that's the worst way of ranking up.

There are some noteworthy newbies who have contributed good content to the forum and yes the generous members support those newbies to rank up as soon as possible because they know better the contribution of those newbies who could be valuable members of the forum in future. The forum and its reputed members have shown generosity towards newbies and are willing to give them merits if their posts are high quality and could help someone with the crypto-currencies and specifically Bitcoin.

It matters, but it's mostly the post quality that makes you say — "oh, this guy is still a Bitcoin newbie". From time and time again we've seen new posters that actually seems to be very knowledgeable — sometimes more knowledgeable than people who've been here for years.

It's definitely not about who makes the most threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=3558380;sa=showPosts). You've made 4 threads talking about newbies out of 8 posts in total.

Follow the advice you got from one of your more recent threads and do not of reading and learning.

If you are making any real contributions on the forum it will be reflected through your post quality only on this forum as there's no other judgement criteria as you ask.The newbies who have high merits to post or activity tells they are having good knowledge and making good efforts sharing useful information with us.So there are some newbies you can find on forum who have high merits and just check their posts you will automatically come to know about potential newbies and others who just ask how to rank up.

Apart from spam posts, most of the newbies on this forum only participate in bounties. Sorry to say that they don't have a nice contribution to the forum. I was also a newbie, but what I did was to consistently make good posts and not spam as much as possible and learn from the seniors in this forum. So your statement is quite wrong.

Where did you come to such a conclusion? Personally, I have not seen any benefit, except for creating topics about newcomers in topics that should not contain such information.
Who are you trying to fool, OP? Flashing new threads all over the forum don't make you an important person. Newbies are different. If you want an opinion on yourself, then a few more threads like this, and you'll be labeled a useless shitposter.

It really depends, but the most common example is when a newbie actually participate on technical discussion threads either by helping other members solve some sort of technical issue. It could also be their writing skills that explain a theoretical concept in layman's terms. Or maybe they build bitcoin projects that solves realistic problems experienced by the community, it could be simple building a bitcoin node, or bitcoin web application.

You can also look at the posting history of accounts that have been nominated for the "Discovery of the Year" award in the Bitcointalk community awards. These accounts are typically nominated for their genuine interest in learning about Bitcoin and their contributions to the bitcoin community from the get-go until now!!

- Results 2021 Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390008.0)
- Results 2022 Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5437673.0)

I have already seen several of your topics, and almost all of them are devoted to newbies on the forum. However, on these topics, it seems that you are not interested in seeing the answers to the questions raised. No one is born knowing everything right away, we all start as newbies, but gradually gain experience. And it's rather strange if someone comes to the forum, actively communicates on it and at the same time does not gain experience and does not become more knowledgeable. Therefore, your topics in the complex look like some kind of incomprehensible provocation.

If you are a newbie and want to achieve something, study the topic in which you want to develop, ask questions about this topic, study the answers, and in time you will be able to reach new horizons. And if you focus on learning what it's like to be a newbie, you'll still stay a newbie.

Who tells you that here is a beauty pageant avenue to showcase yourself and get noticed to receive some recognition awards, we are not competing here with anyone, if you're a newbie your commitment and handwork will showcase you and get you noticed, it's not what you apply for or meet a requirement for, people themselves from this community will identify you out being resourceful through what you contributes.


This is only relevant to ranking up from one rank to another and in this, it's the activities that count together with the required merits and not the post, but how you post determines the level of your activities, learn more about forum rank, merits and activities here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0

In my opinion, there is no term potential beginner, because beginners are beginners. but I think in terms that are more appropriate for people who have just joined here are newbies.

and in my opinion, not everyone who has just joined here is a beginner in knowledge, because many people who have just joined here have extensive knowledge.

so in my opinion there are 2 types of beginners in this case, namely beginners in crypto knowledge and beginners in membership activities in this forum.

One can be a newbie to the forum and a newbie to bitcoin/crypto in general. But, a person can already have certain knowledge about crypto and only be a forum newbie.
It's very easy to figure out which category a particular user falls into by the way he communicates and discussed crypto-related issues.

Your registration date from a few weeks ago shows that you are a forum newbie. Your post history shows that you are also inexperienced in crypto. Basically, you are a double newbie.

I don't consider merit count as an indicator of someone's knowledge. It can be, but merits are also about how much the community or the people giving them like you. We have people on this forum who are knowledgeable but prone to quarrels. Many members of the community don't like them, have them on ignore, and don't merit their posts. However, that doesn't make them newbies or unknowledgeable individuals.     

I'm also a beginner. the way I adapt in this forum is to read a lot and obey the rules of the forum. After reading the many comments here, in my opinion what makes a quality post is the knowledge or contents of the head of the account owner. I see that there are several Hero/Legendary users who make posts that have no value and seem mere formalities. So that quality and contribution can only be done by people who have sufficient knowledge

Not all newbie is a newbies, its just define by their ranks but they will rank up immediately because of their knowledge that contributes to the forum or the community itself you can see those when you are trying to read those replies and threads created by them, if you are not one of the prominent though still they can notice you of course getting adopt in the community you can now know what are the things how to get merit. Theres a lot of merit sources and besides them other members willingly give you merit once they saw your content is on the dot of the thread. Merit can be subjective too.

Why need to bother about post per merit ratio? what are you get if your post per merit ratio is 1x? 2x? or 3x? there's no issue about that.

There's no potential newbies, but before the merit system where you can rank up with just activity requirement without merit, there's such potential full member, senior member/hero member/legendary member. Because they just need to post to met the activity requirement to rank up.

OP, are you creating multiple threads to collect Merit?
6 of your 7 posts, are new threads without you joining the discussion. or if you have had enough of the information provided by other members, you can lock your thread.

yes, I know you might be a confused newbie. but can you read it first instead of creating a new thread?
maybe you have a high curiosity. but trust me, you might want to focus on some of the discussions you're really interested in first.
I have nothing against beginners. we've all felt it too.

On the forum, we have positions that range from newbie down to legendary, and as the case may be, IMO, there is nothing like potential at any rank. Here is just a community where we learn from one another; no rank is more knowledgeable than the opposite rank. Any newbie who happens to have better ideas to pass on to others, once done, receives merit on his topic or comment as a way of saying thumbs up. "There's no big deal. If a newbie gets lucky enough to receive enough merit, it doesn't mean every post is high quality; some could still be shite.

I prefer you to create a topic that has the title "Legendary Candidates are from Newbies". This title will keep you highly motivated to contribute to the forum with quality posts and spend merit on worthy posts, not on posts you like.
Show forum users you are capable of creating quality posts that are worthy of respect. You must have motivation in the forum to get out of the Newbie circle, you will definitely get a Newbie after making the first post. The question is, are you able to increase your account rank from Newbie to Legendary? Show your seriousness and purpose in joining the forum, no one wants to be in the Newbie rank for years.

Well you can either get noticed positively or you get noticed negatively, if you get noticed for your contributions of good post quality, charitable work or providing good services then that's great, also on the other hand you can get noticed negatively by either having controversies, being a troll, plagiarism or any negative side.

So now it's up to you to choose which way you get noticed just also know that if you are noticed for the positive reasons then you are likely to get merited for it but negatively there are high chances of you getting banned.

OP, you are making some claims here without concrete facts and examples.
So newbies on this forum have made nice contributions to this  forum
Where did you get this conclusion from? Which specific newbies made a specific contribution to this forum and in what way?

how else can u notice a potential newbie on this forum
Who is a potential newbie for you?
Can you clarify that a bit?
Merit is a good indicator of one's contribution to this forum, but many members reached higher forum ranks before the introduction of the merit system.
I see that lately you open some topics on this forum but after that you don't participate in the discussion at all, so I wonder what is the purpose of so many open topics?
I suggest that you be more specific in your questions in the future in order to get a more specific answer.

Actually, Bitcointalk gives its members a lot of freedom you wouldn't have elsewhere, and there is only a handful of reasons you could get banned for. You would still have a place here even if you scam and steal. You can talk bad about the admins and bitcoin, and you wouldn't get banned. You could wish death on crypto and everyone who touches it, and your opinions wouldn't be silenced.

The worst things you could do is plagiarize, spread malware, share referral links, or spam to the point you get on everyone's nerves. That's when your chances of getting banned significantly increase.   

The freedom in this very forum, I have not seen it in any other forum anywhere. I mean you can actually do anything you like and get away with it. I have seen  some newbies complaining that the forum is too strict and unfriendly but I laugh any time I meet those kind of posts. This forum is so lenient that even when you are dormant for 5 years, anytime you remember the forum, just log in and start using it again. There was when I stopped using the forum, I thought I was locked out but nothing like that.

Even some plagerists get away with their plagerism when they have smart fingers to delete the evidence before a moderator meets it.

I know. That's why I said the chance of getting banned increases, not that they will definitely get banned. It's like we have different plagiarism ban cycles on the forum. First we have a period with increased bans for copy-pasted content. That is then followed by a period where we can read complaints in Meta that admins aren't handling plagiarism cases and nothing happens to the plagiarists. Ultimately, a new ban cycle begins where admins start banning more people for such offences, and then we start seeing ban appeals.   

Lol...what an apt observation!
You are very correct and you must be a very detailed person for you to figure this out. Exactly, it seems the ban system works in cycle just like bitcoin. Maybe if you are not a moderator you will not figure out why it works that way.
There will be a period that many plagerists will get away with their crime, even when you report such cases they will either not be attended to or at most the posts get deleted by the moderator.
There is also a period when a slight copy and paste at a glance will get you a pam ban. I don't really know if it's the effect of the case by case handling of the issues.

If you think that a newbie have a potential then I don't think it would be a potential newbie but a potential jr. member as it is the next rank after newbie. On getting merits?, It depends on the merit sender's criteria in giving merits and there are threads that rewards merits when you are done doing what they require you to do like finding high quality posts of different users to submit it before you are getting merited. Anyway, there are more ways and try doing some research then you will know what it is.

A potential newbie is notice through their good contributions with quality analysis of threads and comments. I agree with you OP. Not all the newbies are potential. There are some newbies that doesn't know anything about bitcoin and even the forum but there are some newbies that contribute meaningful contributions to a thread that some other members can even say anything. This also apply to school classroom. Not all the pupils are equal in knowledge. Here newbie we are talking about brain and not the registered account as newbie.

I might be wrong but you don't see potential by any other ways beside their posting on the forum. If the newbie is potentially he will post quality content on the forum and will get merit for that. So yes with a good post and merit ratio will make the difference.

What a person does as a forum newbie is to first try to know the rules of the forum well and read everyone else's replies carefully before making standard posts and after reading the posts and replies carefully try to post your own. No new member wants to post spammy content in the forum but they do such posts without their knowledge. In the beginning the posts of the newbies are not of standard but gradually they improve the quality of their posts. Because in the forum they go through new experiences and learn about new things every day.

That depends on if the person has any experience with internet forums in general. If you are active in any other online communities, regardless the subject, you would realize that it's not that different. The rules differ here and there, but the flow of thoughts and standards of posting are similar. Bitcointalk has had its share of new members who have been exceptional from day 1. You don't see it every day and they are worth the wait.

By potential newbie, do you mean a newbie having the potential to be a good contributor? I don't think there is any need to evaluate a user other than their post quality, and if they have a very good post quality, they will automatically start getting Merits as soon as they start getting noticed by the community, so you can also see if someone has got more Merits than their posts or just have been gaining Merits lately for many of their posts, you can understand that they have the potential to produce quality posts.

But I don't understand why you are asking this, it shouldn't be your focus if you are on the forum to learn about Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies and take part in discussions related to various topics around cryptocurrency world and physical world as well, your potential will come out if you focus only on gaining more knowledge.

Also, I believe this topic should be Beginners & Help section and not here.

The word newbie is some sort of designated rank based on the ranks hierarchical system of the forum which is subject to your number of activity and number of merits gotten. Ranking aside, there are some Sr members above whose post quality could be related to that of an actual newbie by rank. How real newbies are known is by the content of their posts, formatting of their posts and the kind of questions they ask in the forum etc .

I still don't comprehend what you mean by newbies have made nice contributions to the forum. How, when? You need to explain this because it is not that clear to me. Maybe we can assume that there are some newbies that are trying very hard to write good posts why other may choose to write in a shitty manners. If we talk about writing good posts, then newbies would be out of the box because we can assume that they are frequent in writing and contributing to the forum except for some minute numbers.

 I don't think you choose the right topic for this post, because you automatically become a newbie once you make a new post or reply to a thread, the word potential according to your statement should be referred to those that have an idea about that forum but are yet to join or brand-new members that yet to make a post.
 So far a newbie in the forum is making nice contributions and gaining Merits they could be referred to as potential member, full member or any other senior rank, and the more quality contributions you make more you get noticed and merited by high ranking members in the forum.