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The supply of illiquid BTC has continued to increase in Q2 2023, showing the opposite relationship to the price. BTC's recent pump to 30k caused a dramatic shift in investor sentiment. Bitcoin's sluggish growth over the last month coupled with legal action against the top exchange, has significantly dampened investors' appetite for trading. When FUD hit the market, most long-term investors started taking coins off exchanges to support self-custody.

With these changes taking place, investors may need to reconsider their strategies, considering the extent to which these factors can affect price movements and their profits. Risk evaluation and portfolio management are becoming increasingly important aspects in this dynamic market condition.

We who have participated in this market know its strong volatility, and especially the reaction of prices to news, for me personally each person will make their own decision. personal goals when investing. The fact that HOLD has to watch the news makes me quite skeptical about how to approach the market, because it is not in my mind, when the market phase is in a bear cycle, the study of crypto accumulation will be my interest. If you choose, instead of making money in the short term, build a long-term plan to prepare for the next price rally, and of course it will take time, money, health,... The recent price response has made many people turn themselves into machines for the market to control.

We saw this happened during coinbase and binance SEC drama. People are withdrawing their funds from Binance but we already knew a ploy on the SEC case. Now that instituions lining up for bitcoin etf, who knows how btc will react but this is bullish news for everyone. Though we need to always be careful on the act since this market is so volatile.

Bitcoin has a fixed supply of 21million and the large part of 92%+ generated could be liquid and we should consider We were around the bottom for a while now and bitcoin's price has just crossed the 30K mark again. The main strategy for this time is to accumulate during the dips and keep your coins safe. I personally treat cryptos as stocks, there mostly are no dividends but the probability of yield on investment are higher. Anyone buying bitcoin around 20K already have a 50% profit today.

There are other strategies other than ‘HODL or not.’

Most of us like to HODL a certain % of our stash long term & sell some when market conditions are favourable (maybe hold the fiat & buy back at discount in downturns).

Bitcoin is very volatile still, you need to be openminded to act accordingly.

Either it go up or down. Now make a choice whether to invest right now, having beliefs that the market value would continue increasing, or to wait for things to fall in order to invest more. Eitherway would give you a chance to make profit fron investing into this industry. However you have options to diversify your funds to different tokens in this industry. Investing into one bucket, as we all know, won't be advisable. There are other options to choose from given tgat all tokens has its own potential. Problem is picking the right alternative.Would be hard to determine especially as early as it is in the present. Rejection in $31k may still take place but it also has the tendency to breakthrough especially if buyers would support such market price movement. On my end, I'd choose waiting 'til the ideal market value on my end  shows. There's no need to rush in the first place, so better wait for trend to be more obvious.

I would say that there is no general "right" answer, if trading hodling bitcoin is the best strategy for someone. It all depends on the goals that an investor wants to achieve and of course also how much time you have to keep track of the market movements, the rumors and the news and also social Media. If you don't want to invest a lot of time, then buying and hodling is the best strategy in my opinion. If you want maximum possible profits, then you need to trade actively, but then you can also lose money more easily.

I guess it is the common reaction you will expect from majority of investors when a FUD hit the market. Even me, if I have some assets on an exchange, I will instantly decide to withdraw that and put it into my wallet as a safety precaution of what might happen next. Everyone are just scared that they might be a victim, just like what happened to those who are affected on the FTX scandal before. The volatility is always there and always be, the FUDs like these are just one of the factors that is boosting that volatility.

Market is now focusing into the so many companies even blackrock that has been trying to launch bitcoin ETF. This good for long term caused by bitcoin can be considered as a legal asset too. I trust bitcoin more than anything.
The investors shall change their strategy but going long term with bitcoin is the only best strategy that can be tried by all of them.
The development will always need process as well as the adoption by ordinary people. Bitcoin investors shall not always change their strategy. Just stick with bitcoin for long term is profible for their portfolio.
Since the bitcoin supply is already limited and i don't care so much about the increase of supply of illiquid btc. It may bad for short term but not for long term as the adoption is slowly going up even further.

I think btc is safe, that is why it's considered better like that, not a lot of people consider the problem as a big deal, if we did then it would have been an issue for a long time. I do not get it, why do people want to risk it and get some small altcoin that has a "potential" that might crash, when bitcoin is great and you could invest and you know what to expect from it.

It will never be a problem on the long run and we should keep investing into it. I am not saying do not ever invest into alts, but I keep most of my money on bitcoin and only some of my money on alts, that way even if my alts go down, I will be able to make a profit with the bitcoin one and that should be a lot better, it will definitely benefit me a lot.

Illiquid?  ???

I am long term and I am sure that the others as well that's long on Bitcoin never kept their BTC's on exchanges.

You're right on this, there's no other better approach than to hold your own assets and buy when there's the opportunity.

It's just a strategy if I see it, maybe those who do it have a special assumption that there is a potential profit from the stability of BTC and the growth of certain altcoins. By relying on BTC and allocating a fraction to altcoins, they can mitigate the risks associated with the speculative nature of crypto investments.


True, the Market has consistently viewed BTC as a more stable option compared to smaller altcoins with uncertain prospects. This can be seen from the track record and trust of many investors who have strengthened their position as a reliable asset. By contrast, investing in smaller altcoins carries higher risk, as their growth potential is often accompanied by greater volatility and a higher probability of a price crash.

I mean after the unexpected fud that has repeatedly hit the crypto space and forcing the btc price to dump massively, the best and simplest strategy to apply is buy low and sell high (i believe it is also the oldest  ;D)
Does it really matter what strategy you apply when your goal is long term? crypto market is one that is highly unpredictable, nobody expected the sec to come out with attack on the 2 biggest exchange in crypto when they did, while you are busy strategizing something unexpected from sec or government is coming to rock your world. Long term players however will always come out victorious.

I find this to be self-evident and I do not understand what has changed in the strategies followed by investors after the recent events that followed the collapse of the FTX stock exchange. Any investor in Bitcoin must be aware from the start that this is one of the most risky investments (in the short term at least) and that the price movement is very volatile.

What is happening with the Binance and Coinbase platforms recently is very healthy and has contributed to raising awareness of the need to deal cautiously with centralized platforms and learn to deal with private wallets.

Only fool sells thier btc at lows, that's my strategy

I buy, Hold, and Sold - that was my strategy since before and it was profitable. Should I have to change this? I don't think so...
So matter what will happen -FUDs, dumps, and Ups, I keep doing the same because I have nothing to change knowing that this strategy gives me profit already.

Honestly, what makes people become successful in crypto is not only because of the strategies but also how they respond to market changes. It is all about investment management, well part of this are - decision making, strategies, and actions. And it all lies in our hands individually.

Of course HODL is a good choice, especially since today's Bitcoin price has reached $30k and is already bullish,
so there is no reason not to hold Bitcoin if you have bought it below $30k,
you can hold it until 2025 if you want to get even up to 10x profit in Bitcoins.

Probably many people already know the reason that BTC has gone up in price the last few days, personally I am looking at this as quite normal as we are really still in a rough period in the market but negative news Positive and negative can cause sharp fluctuations in prices. But if thinking a little bit about the events that will move in the future and looking at this stage it is still a wise decision to hold btc, why not the optimistic story of seeing btc pass $100000 but have to be scared forever that btc drops below $20000 so I can buy and hold a better position. I do not calculate too many small risks with big profits, maybe we can easily get caught up in the market story, but strategy and goals always need to be alert enough to make decisions.

We've seen a lot of pump and dump movements in the past, and what we are witnessing now is just normal. Personally, when I see Bitcoin dump, it doesn't make me panic; in fact, I appreciate it because I know it will bounce back. The more I see these dips, the more I convince myself that the bull run is imminent.

In my opinion, we have already experienced a bear market with a long correction, and now Bitcoin is ready to achieve its all-time high (ATH).

So, keep HOLDING, as that's the easiest recipe for success

BTC is sluggish growth in the last month coupled with regulatory action against the leading exchange has greatly reduced trading demand among investors. When FUD hit the market, most of the long-term investors started withdrawing from exchanges to support self-custodial. We're still in a bear market so these issues are inevitable, but it's fairer looking at the problem I think it's also an opportunity to take the time to gain more knowledge as well like money to buy BTC, for me in terms of the future of BTC, I fully believe it will always bring profits if we are persistent, investing is not just based on exaggeration and speculation, Sustainability and longevity are built on experiences.

Hold strong BTC bull run is about to begin we are just in the first stage which is 30k$ so for me the best strategy is to hold because there is a possibility that btc price will rise up high above the past ATH and if we are going to hold we can possibly earn big profit at the end of the day,holders always win in crypto CZ of binance said we cannot be rich if we can't hold so hold for good.

The drama that's happening right now is just one of the dramas that will happen this year, and TBH, I've seen similar events like that a few years ago. It wasn't Binance that's involved, but I've seen some events where it caused negative impact towards the crypto market for days to weeks.

You know what's one thing that's always happening? The effect of the dramas that's happening on crypto will only last for weeks, and a few weeks after that, it's back to normal again. When FTX got hacked, some already opted out with crypto, sold their coins. While some sold, we saw it as an opportunity, and a few weeks after that, Bitcoin and crypto is back on track again, and rose up after what happened. It's almost the same with what's happening with Binance right now. A few days, we've seen crypto was down, but after that, it goes up again like we are seeing right now.

Reconsidering my strategy? Nahhh I don't need to do that. I'm just focus on Dollar Cost Averaging. Dollar Cost Average on both buying, and selling. That's my strategy. Why stress yourself in creating a new strategy if you can use a safe, and a good one. Unless you want to be rich in a quick way then I guess DCA will not be a good strategy.

However, you should gonna see the next are gonna happen.

In 2024, we're gonna get "Bitcoin-Halving" each halving always give you gains (20x from -70 to -80% from the ATH). We reached 60,000$ in the last rally, and the lowest down from ath at 13,000-15,000$ (It's already around 70-80%).

This is gonna to be the key, can rally gain continue like the history or not on these cycle.

I agree, these things happen all the time and we are so used to it that people should be used to it by now but some of them do not. I agree that DCA is the best thing to do and we should be basically just letting it be as it is and keep on doing DCA until we are in profit. Too many people approach it differently and I believe that as long as they keep being afraid of the investments, I think they are going to keep having hard time.

The best way to approach this subject is to trust bitcoin, if you keep on trusting bitcoin then you are going to do fine. I believe that the future will be great and we will make as much money as possible with this method, it should be easy because all we do is just buy and hold, until we profit, doesn't require much to do that.

Although the price of Bitcoin has given a bit of a pump since a few days ago, even if we look at it, we can see that Bitcoin is still less than half of its all-time high price. So I think no smart long term trader would sell their bitcoin right now. No matter how much fud there is in the market they will never give up holding at least bitcoin right now. And besides Bitcoin halving is very close so I think there is no better idea than holding now.

I think HOLD is the key to every crypto owner's victory, whether it ends well or badly, but with the belief that there are coins that will cover the losses of the coins we hold besides BTC.
if we stick to fud news then there will be no progress in existing crypto will become obsolete and disappear,

Whatever happens, we recognize that the volatility in the crypto world is very high. Regarding all strategy and portfolio management I think HODL is still the best choice for all situations.

It is true that with very high volatility we are required to be careful in making decisions,
like it or not but that's the best and safer option,
but again everyone has their own choice.

Holding is always the key to success in investing in Bitcoin.
As we anticipate the market price surge next year, buying now is the best strategy to do rather than getting affected by the SEC issue and some FUDs. If the price of Bitcoin reaches almost $70k last Bull run, it probably went higher in the upcoming bull season. But we also have to face the reality that we need to hold and wait for that moment as there is no magic in here. If we are impatient people, that's the thing we need to figure out how to correct it and motivate ourselves.

The decision whether or not to HODL in these situations comes down to each of us' preferences and risk tolerance. Decision making to HODL or not should be based on fundamental analysis and long term assessment. Therefore, taking the decision to HODL or not depends on factors such as illiquid supply of BTC, changes in investor sentiment, Bitcoin growth, legal action against exchanges, and risk evaluation and portfolio management. It is important for us to do an in-depth analysis and follow an investment strategy that suits our goals.

It always has a reason and for me, I hold Bitcoin because I believe that it will pump when the bull season comes. Of course, it doesn't mean that holding is forever, we sell them as well at the perfect time. As long as we can manage to hold, it will be the best thing to do but if we can't, I don't think it was good to push ourselves as it only contradicts our interest. Yes, we have to choose the best thing that we think is right but of course, we also have to listen to the opinion of the others and re-think it.

Market conditions and the impact on investor sentiment. Given the sluggish growth of Bitcoin, legal actions against exchanges, and the increase in illiquid BTC supply, it's reasonable for investors to reconsider their strategies.

In such dynamic market conditions, holding Bitcoin as a long-term investment can be a wise decision. Bitcoin has demonstrated resilience over time and has proven to be a store of value. By holding Bitcoin, investors can potentially benefit from its potential future growth and increasing mainstream adoption.

More to say on this is to always get reminded that bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency one can still hodl over a long period without having any fear of missing out, we may also hodl other cryptocurrencies but on a short range, when we buy the dip then we make sure to hodl till we have more opportunities to make us sell after we would have realized more than we've invested, if you're holding you're safe but how long you hodl determines what you're holding.

For me HODLE Bitcoin  is a good option or good choice when you are in the crypto world as we all know that once You have an Bitcoin nowadays is a  privilege because it will give you a good life once you are holding some bitcoin when the price is down then in the future once the price of Bitcoin will go up again then for sue it will makes we think that what if I invested again because you've got a lot of money once the price will rise.

I would hope people would move their coins off exchange regardless of the situation.  They are not to be used for cold wallets for people.  Time and time again we see that eventually you will end up getting screwd one way or another.  If the lawsuit pushed more people to learn how to control theor own coins than great.

Hang tight, because the same supply which you are talking about will also reduce or have a slow speed of emission once the halving occurs next year. Satoshi had all the plans back in their mind while creating this system. Peeps are not pulling out of the bitcoin, they are just making sure their investments are being done properly. Some must be moving the bitcoin investments into stablecoins for the time being and some must be just liquidating in fiat until they seek a good opportunities to invest. As we come closer to having there gonna be a usual drop of FUD and then the market will regain it's position very quickly. One more factor, new and more peeps will keep coming into the world of crypto investments so that proprtiona will again continue to grow and grow.

i don't have rethink about Bitcoin investment because i always feel it's a safe coin in my long term investment,
that is big reason to my 70% invest in Bitcoin then 30% in the different altcoins,
there is nothing to panic to holding Bitcoin, personally i blindly trust this coin, so i want to keep holding it without any doubt,

Why would a bitcoin holder reconsider something based on some short-term data? A long-term bitcoin holder never looks at such news because his strategy is designed for many years and a lot of good and bad things can happen during that time. If he revises his strategy on every event, he will turn from a bitcoin holder into a regular trader who takes losses. A real Bitcoin Holder will not revise his strategy even if Bitcoin crashes threefold right now. Let traders and short-term investors do that, it matters much more to them.

As they say, listen to everyone but do what you think is the right thing to do in the present situation that can also be a good decision for the time to come. So the final decision of whether you should hold or sell should be yours and it should be based on your strategy and plan that you had when you were buying Bitcoins, if you are a short-term trader, you will probably sell as soon as you are in profit, but if you have bought to hold for the long-term, it's not yet time to sell for that.

So it basically depends on what you have in mind or what you have always had in your mind regarding your Bitcoin possessions, if you are a long-term investor, make sure that nothing influences your decision and you keep on holding until the right time arrives for you to sell your assets.