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Title: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: yat97 on June 25, 2023, 11:17:58 PM
And not all of the bitcoin addresses sending?

I just want to send from the last receiving address, the exact amount that it received? How do I do that?


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: bitmover on June 25, 2023, 11:19:59 PM
And not all of the bitcoin addresses sending?

I just want to send from the last receiving address, the exact amount that it received? How do I do that?

Which wallet are you using?

If you are using electrum, you can use coin control feature and select the exact utxo (coin) and address you want to spend from.

I recommend that you use electrum.

Take a look at this guide
https://coinguides.org/coin-control-spend-specific-utxo/

https://coinguides.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/show-coins-electrum.png

https://coinguides.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/spend-bitcoin-specific-address.png


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: Nwada001 on June 25, 2023, 11:20:03 PM
Open the transaction history the last address which sent you Bitcoin will be shown their and the amount which was also sent to you. You can copy the address from their and input it on your sending address and same with the amount.

I guess you might want to return a payment which was sent to your address by mistake.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: yat97 on June 25, 2023, 11:32:12 PM
And not all of the bitcoin addresses sending?

I just want to send from the last receiving address, the exact amount that it received? How do I do that?

Which wallet are you using?

Safepal


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: Nwada001 on June 25, 2023, 11:39:48 PM
And not all of the bitcoin addresses sending?

I just want to send from the last receiving address, the exact amount that it received? How do I do that?

Which wallet are you using?

Safepal

If you are using a SafePal wallet, I don't know how secure the wallet is. But that's not the case here.
You can just check the transaction history like I said above. If you click on Bitcoin and check the recently received transaction, you will see the last address you received Bitcoin from and the amount.

Or you can copy your own address and search through Blockchain Explorer to see the full details because most wallets don't show full transaction histories.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: MainIbem on June 25, 2023, 11:46:00 PM
And not all of the bitcoin addresses sending?

I just want to send from the last receiving address, the exact amount that it received? How do I do that?

Click on the transactions history to show you how much the sender spent and how much fee was deducted from the sender then include both fees and yours fees to get exact amount that was sent to you, I think this is a simple task, no matter the address you are using you scan it through. Sometimes you may pay higher fees than the sender this now moved down to what Bitmover was asking about which wallet you are using.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: BitMaxz on June 25, 2023, 11:53:13 PM
That's the problem with using safepal wallet they don't have yet Coin control feature so if you received many transactions into your Safepal wallet and made a transaction all of your BTC will be sent to where you want to send it and to your changed address if available but it looks like they don't also have this feature so the change would send back to your wallet address.

Another problem is this wallet does not support other wallets like Electrum the guide shared by bitmover should be useful if Safepal support it.
What you can only do if you want a coin control feature is to export the private key from Safepal and then import it to Electrum.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: decodx on June 25, 2023, 11:58:57 PM
Looks like there's some confusion about what the OP meant. I think he actually wants to use the coins he got from the last address, not send them back to where they came from.

@yat97, I don't know about the Safepal wallet specifically, but you should look to see if you have a coin control feature, as bitmover said. Some wallets support this, such as Electrum or Bitcoin Core. If your wallet does not support this function, I think your only alternative is to import your private keys into another wallet. Be careful with this and never share your private key with anyone or enter it into online websites or unverified software.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: OcTradism on June 26, 2023, 02:36:13 AM
And not all of the bitcoin addresses sending?

I just want to send from the last receiving address, the exact amount that it received? How do I do that?
Depends on your wallets. If you are using non custodial wallets, they will have Coin Control feature which allows you to choose Inputs for your transactions.

If you use like online accounts, centralized exchange wallets, custodial wallets, you will not have Coin Control feature to choose inputs.

TUTORIAL: How to use Electrum (for advanced users). Using Coin Control feature (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3774520.0#post_point5)
How to spend specific UTXOs in Electrum wallet (https://bitcoinelectrum.com/how-to-spend-specific-utxos-in-electrum/)


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: rat03gopoh on June 26, 2023, 03:15:52 AM
Safepal
You can't do "coin control" with safepal, until the last information I found[1] they don't have that feature yet despite many requests from users.
I think you should import your wallet to electrum, or create a new electrum wallet then sweep bitcoins in your safepal.


1. https://www.reddit.com/r/safePal/comments/14d3d5e/comment/jotrjny


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on June 26, 2023, 03:48:29 AM
Safepal
Go to Safepal offcial website, check their FAQ or contact their customer support. Ask them how to do coin control for bitcoin with the wallet. If you do Google search you will be able to find many articles available online about anything on the internet. Use those resources to learn coin control.

Your keyword is Coin Control. How to do it with Electrum is nicely shown by bitmover already.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: 20kevin20 on June 26, 2023, 10:37:09 AM
Another problem is this wallet does not support other wallets like Electrum the guide shared by bitmover should be useful if Safepal support it.
What you can only do if you want a coin control feature is to export the private key from Safepal and then import it to Electrum.
This solution should come with a big, big warning: once your private key or seed exits SafePal, consider it compromised and move to a new one. It’s pointless to use a hardware wallet if the seed doesn’t remain locked in it. Once you inserted the seed in a computer, your security has been significantly lowered.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: hosseinimr93 on June 26, 2023, 11:50:03 AM
If you are using non custodial wallets, they will have Coin Control feature which allows you to choose Inputs for your transactions.
Not all non-custodial wallets support coin control.
Safepal (which is being used by OP) is a non-custodial wallet, but it doesn't allow you to choose which UTXOs you want to use for your transaction.

To OP:
I recommend you to avoid safepal. In addition to not supporting coin control, it's close source and we don't know how secure it is.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: Jawhead999 on June 26, 2023, 01:20:36 PM
The above users already give correct answer regarding your question.

I just want to add one thing, if the mempool is already empty you can use that moment to consolidate your inputs, so when you want to send Bitcoin, all of your Bitcoin already in one address and you can reduce the fees you need to pay for the miners because you only have one input.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: benalexis12 on June 26, 2023, 02:27:45 PM
And not all of the bitcoin addresses sending?

I just want to send from the last receiving address, the exact amount that it received? How do I do that?

What wallet software you are using at? is it Electrum or hardware wallet? if hardware wallet, I am not familiar with it.
But if you are using Electrum is do what @Bitmover posted here an instruction for what you are going to do. It is precisely
correct guideline honestly speaking. Now if it is not Electrum apps, maybe you could make a watch on youtube for what you'll
gonna do for this matter anyway.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: bitmover on June 26, 2023, 02:31:44 PM
The above users already give correct answer regarding your question.

I just want to add one thing, if the mempool is already empty you can use that moment to consolidate your inputs, so when you want to send Bitcoin, all of your Bitcoin already in one address and you can reduce the fees you need to pay for the miners because you only have one input.

Although this is true, and in the long term he will pay less fees, mixing utxo might reduce your privacy, so you need to be sure about what you are doing.

When mixing utxo in the same transaction (to consolidate them) , you will reveal that the same person control all those addresses.  And reveal your overall balance as well.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: Agbe on June 26, 2023, 02:56:26 PM
Safepal
Go to Safepal offcial website, check their FAQ or contact their customer support. Ask them how to do coin control for bitcoin with the wallet. If you do Google search you will be able to find many articles available online about anything on the internet. Use those resources to learn coin control.

Your keyword is Coin Control. How to do it with Electrum is nicely shown by bitmover already.
From the look of things, Safepal is a close source wallet although they didn't state it in the site but from the articles I read and my own understanding, it is a custodian wallet. So it is not even advisable to use it. Look at the question the op is asking which can be done easily with non custodian wallets. As Nwada001 said, if it is an Electrum Wallet, Op just need to clink on the particular transaction and copy the send address and resend back the money to the sender.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: hosseinimr93 on June 26, 2023, 03:12:46 PM
What wallet software you are using at?
OP already said that he/she is using Safepal.  


From the look of things, Safepal is a close source wallet although they didn't state it in the site but from the articles I read and my own understanding, it is a custodian wallet.
You are right that Safepal is close-source, but it's not a custodial wallet. Safepal is non-custodial and gives users access to their private keys.


As Nwada001 said, if it is an Electrum Wallet, Op just need to clink on the particular transaction and copy the send address and resend back the money to the sender.
OP is asking how to spend a particular UTXO and it's required to use coin control for that.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: Z-tight on June 26, 2023, 03:27:58 PM
I just want to add one thing, if the mempool is already empty you can use that moment to consolidate your inputs, so when you want to send Bitcoin, all of your Bitcoin already in one address and you can reduce the fees you need to pay for the miners because you only have one input.
I don't think op's problem is with the cost of tx fees, consolidating inputs helps to reduce tx fees and also reduces ones privacy, but op wants to spend from a particular address using coin control, and the main reason to do so is because of privacy and not for fees.


Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on June 26, 2023, 09:54:56 PM
Safepal
Go to Safepal offcial website, check their FAQ or contact their customer support. Ask them how to do coin control for bitcoin with the wallet. If you do Google search you will be able to find many articles available online about anything on the internet. Use those resources to learn coin control.

Your keyword is Coin Control. How to do it with Electrum is nicely shown by bitmover already.
From the look of things, Safepal is a close source wallet although they didn't state it in the site but from the articles I read and my own understanding, it is a custodian wallet.
Safepal is a custodial wallet? I did not check my desk yet but as far as I know I have one safepal hardware wallet. A hardware wallet is none custodial, same as Ledger, Trazor. Even desktop wallet like Electrum. This is safepal official website: https://www.safepal.com/en/

From the look of things, Safepal is a close source wallet although they didn't state it in the site but from the articles I read and my own understanding, it is a custodian wallet.
You are right that Safepal is close-source,
I was talking about the information about how to use the wallet. If it has coin control, then I think their manual will have some type of instructions. Those bloggers and crypto writers who review wallet they will have some kind of tutorial tll.



Title: Re: Can you only have a receiving address pay send bitcoin?
Post by: hosseinimr93 on June 26, 2023, 10:17:22 PM
Safepal is a custodial wallet? I did not check my desk yet but as far as I know I have one safepal hardware wallet. A hardware wallet is none custodial, same as Ledger, Trazor.
They have a software wallet too and that's probably what Agbe was talking about. Of course, he/she is wrong about safepal being a custodial wallet. Even their software wallet is non-custodial and gives users full control over they fund.


If it has coin control, then I think their manual will have some type of instructions. Those bloggers and crypto writers who review wallet they will have some kind of tutorial tll.
As far as I know, there is no coin control on Safepal software wallet.