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Title: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: Otillio1330 on June 29, 2023, 11:15:56 PM
Hello, everyone. Todamant, and I have discovered, or maybe it was already known, an interesting issue regarding privnote. I sent him a btc address on privnote to make a payment for some cards. The address I sent is not the address he received. So I double checked and sent the same address to myself through privnote, and what I received is not what I entered. I have done this now with multiple wallet addresses, every time the decrypted privnote gives a different address than what you put in.  Todamont  has confirmed the same thing happens when he does it with a wallet address as well.

I dont know why I sent Todamont my address on privnote, as I have never done that before. I may have just been tired. But the loss on this is minimal, and if I can keep someone else from making this mistake I’d be happy about it. Anyway you guys try it out and confirm, or let me know just how dumb I am for not already knowing this.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: rsincognito on June 29, 2023, 11:18:48 PM
Wow,  doesn’t that mean it has to be an inside job from the people that developed the website ?


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: Otillio1330 on June 29, 2023, 11:18:58 PM
Also this may not belong in collectables, but it’s the only part of the forum I frequent. Sorry if it needs to be moved.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: YodasRedRocket on June 29, 2023, 11:35:05 PM
Sure you’re not using the scam site privnotes ?


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: Kryptowerk on June 29, 2023, 11:36:44 PM
Holy chickens.
I remember something like this happened before and it was related to a scam site with a similar name.
If this is the real privnote.com it's either an inside job and the whole thing is compromised or a hack.
Thanks for the info, I'll try it out right now.

Sure you’re not using the scam site privnotes ?
Edit: Yes exactly that's was the name of the scam site that does this to BTC addresses.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: minerjones on June 29, 2023, 11:37:26 PM
This is why I have been using zerobin.net  and even more so, just use PGP
Easy enough to sign up at https://keybase.io/


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: blucepheus on June 29, 2023, 11:40:01 PM
Check your browser history to confirm which site you used. I just tried the legit privnote and it worked fine.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: Otillio1330 on June 29, 2023, 11:43:19 PM
Holy chickens.
I remember something like this happened before and it was related to a scam site with a similar name.
If this is the real privnote.com it's either an inside job and the whole thing is compromised or a hack.
Thanks for the info, I'll try it out right now.

Sure you’re not using the scam site privnotes ?
Edit: Yes exactly that's was the name of the scam site that does this to BTC addresses.


Hey man I just double checked it. It’s privnote.co  
Haha fuck they got me. Yep I’m an idiot. Thanks guys!



Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: PX-Z on June 29, 2023, 11:53:30 PM
Hey man I just double checked it. It’s privnote.co  
Haha fuck they got me. Yep I’m an idiot. Thanks guys!
Damn! I'm sure you clicked the google sponsored ad on google search instead the legit site when searching "privnote".

https://i.ibb.co/BB1k3nV/Screenshot-2023-06-30-07-57-43-32-e4424258c8b8649f6e67d283a50a2cbc.jpg
Are you using a mobile phone? Or desktop one. I suggest you to use ad blocker on desktop browsers and use firefox/brave or other browser that has built-in ad blocker.
Also, bookmark the site if possible.

Edit: reported the site to google.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: minerjones on June 29, 2023, 11:58:56 PM
Holy chickens.
I remember something like this happened before and it was related to a scam site with a similar name.
If this is the real privnote.com it's either an inside job and the whole thing is compromised or a hack.
Thanks for the info, I'll try it out right now.

Sure you’re not using the scam site privnotes ?
Edit: Yes exactly that's was the name of the scam site that does this to BTC addresses.


Hey man I just double checked it. It’s privnote.co 
Haha fuck they got me. Yep I’m an idiot. Thanks guys!



privnote.co or privnote.com ??


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: Todamont on June 30, 2023, 12:10:34 AM
So Otillio1330 lost his bitcoin payment because GOOGLE served him an ad to a crypto scammer site???

I tested it, it's privnote.co that is mangling the addresses, another scam site.

Wow. Seems like there could be recourse for a small-claims case against Google, to me. Doesn't that make them accessory to the scam???


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: Otillio1330 on June 30, 2023, 12:20:53 AM
Hey man I just double checked it. It’s privnote.co  
Haha fuck they got me. Yep I’m an idiot. Thanks guys!
Damn! I'm sure you clicked the google sponsored ad on google search instead the legit site when searching "privnote".

https://i.ibb.co/BB1k3nV/Screenshot-2023-06-30-07-57-43-32-e4424258c8b8649f6e67d283a50a2cbc.jpg
Are you using a mobile phone? Or desktop one. I suggest you to use ad blocker on desktop browsers and use firefox/brave or other browser that has built-in ad blocker.
Also, bookmark the site if possible.

Edit: reported the site to google.

Yes I was on my phone when that happened. And I kept checking it on my phone when I realized it. So kept getting the same result.  Thanks


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: Otillio1330 on June 30, 2023, 12:25:38 AM
Holy chickens.
I remember something like this happened before and it was related to a scam site with a similar name.
If this is the real privnote.com it's either an inside job and the whole thing is compromised or a hack.
Thanks for the info, I'll try it out right now.

Sure you’re not using the scam site privnotes ?
Edit: Yes exactly that's was the name of the scam site that does this to BTC addresses.


Hey man I just double checked it. It’s privnote.co 
Haha fuck they got me. Yep I’m an idiot. Thanks guys!




privnote.co or privnote.com ??

Privnote.co

Was on my phone, and never noticed until after  I made this post. And kept testing it on my phone and getting the same result. Lesson learned.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: minerjones on June 30, 2023, 12:34:36 AM
Holy chickens.
I remember something like this happened before and it was related to a scam site with a similar name.
If this is the real privnote.com it's either an inside job and the whole thing is compromised or a hack.
Thanks for the info, I'll try it out right now.

Sure you’re not using the scam site privnotes ?
Edit: Yes exactly that's was the name of the scam site that does this to BTC addresses.


Hey man I just double checked it. It’s privnote.co 
Haha fuck they got me. Yep I’m an idiot. Thanks guys!




privnote.co or privnote.com ??

Privnote.co

Was on my phone, and never noticed until after  I made this post. And kept testing it on my phone and getting the same result. Lesson learned.

As Homer Simpson would say "D'oh"
and indeed....

Just stick to PGP from now on and never need another website/service :D


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: blucepheus on June 30, 2023, 02:12:30 AM
So Otillio1330 lost his bitcoin payment because GOOGLE served him an ad to a crypto scammer site???

I tested it, it's privnote.co that is mangling the addresses, another scam site.

Wow. Seems like there could be recourse for a small-claims case against Google, to me. Doesn't that make them accessory to the scam???

It's pretty f'd up. I've seen the same tactic employed in the NFT space, where a paid ad sent people to a BS version of an NFT trading site. People lost their bored apes over this when they were worth $300-400K.



Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: montreal1 on June 30, 2023, 02:53:25 AM
Used privnote plenty before and never had an issue. Will need to be safer and up my game though. Thanks for sharing


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: aoluain on June 30, 2023, 06:11:54 AM
So Otillio1330 lost his bitcoin payment because GOOGLE served him an ad to a crypto scammer site???

I tested it, it's privnote.co that is mangling the addresses, another scam site.

Wow. Seems like there could be recourse for a small-claims case against Google, to me. Doesn't that make them accessory to the scam???

I would say that would be a long, tedious drawn out endeavour.

I have seen this happen before and even brought it to the communities attention here,
Google was serving a promoted advert for a fake Trezor web address. I wonder how
many people got burned with that one?

Just goes to show Google do not have the proper checks in place to protect us from
these scams. very worrying.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: krogothmanhattan on June 30, 2023, 08:18:03 AM
 This is scary indeed. Anytime I need to do any type of large transaction I send thru two different channels.

  For example....send once thru privnote say thru forum PM and then send a regular email or even thru discord or any other channel.

   Compare the two addys and they should match. Then I would proceed with said transaction.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 01, 2023, 07:01:47 PM
Also this may not belong in collectables, but it’s the only part of the forum I frequent. Sorry if it needs to be moved.

It’s collectible related. When posts like this come up, I will usually post on two boards. Like I will post the main thread on here then in the scam section I’ll write something in the title like “Fake Privnote website once again” and then in the body of the post I’ll just write “see original post here” and provide a link. Sometimes posts should be in two places, and moderators have always been fine with it when it makes sense.

I remember when this happened originally. It popped up on google before the real site. These scammers are pretty decent.

Have you checked any of the address just to see how much money they’ve stolen so far? I’d be curious to see those addresses.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue
Post by: krogothmanhattan on July 02, 2023, 10:01:56 AM
Also this may not belong in collectables, but it’s the only part of the forum I frequent. Sorry if it needs to be moved.

It’s collectible related. When posts like this come up, I will usually post on two boards. Like I will post the main thread on here then in the scam section I’ll write something in the title like “Fake Privnote website once again” and then in the body of the post I’ll just write “see original post here” and provide a link. Sometimes posts should be in two places, and moderators have always been fine with it when it makes sense.

I remember when this happened originally. It popped up on google before the real site. These scammers are pretty decent.

Have you checked any of the address just to see how much money they’ve stolen so far? I’d be curious to see those addresses.

   I went ahead and used this site and gave the following addy.....see from pic below....you can see what I placed and what was give are not the same just as OP mentioned.

     Here is the balance of the one they gave https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q50r0529jkml7hlswcfj5av2wgqc3efpc35c3wm (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q50r0529jkml7hlswcfj5av2wgqc3efpc35c3wm)

      I tried another yesterday and it was zero balance....so I guess sometimes they generate a new address.



      https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/02/Si1x8.png

       https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/02/SicP3.png



    Also years ago there was another site impersonating privnote.....here is an article.

   https://www.hackread.com/fake-version-note-sharing-site-privnote-com-steale-bitcoin/ (http://  https://www.hackread.com/fake-version-note-sharing-site-privnote-com-steale-bitcoin/)


    Again...I say....I would send the btc addy to the person using two different channels.....

     Example....if you want to use privnote that is fine and send thru forum. But I would also use another service totally different and send thru an email...discord or twitter...email...etc etc etc. Then I would compare the addys.

    Another way.....if for any high amount...send $10 in BTC...confirm it has arrived then once that is done, send the rest.

  


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: Suzuki Matt on July 02, 2023, 03:06:32 PM
Wow that's wild. Scammers are creative that's for sure. Looks like they have been getting people all along. I may have even used the wrong one before just being in a hurry. Thankfully it was never payment addresses recently. But definitely good to know. Thanks for sharing here.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: MoparMiningLLC on July 02, 2023, 05:44:45 PM
Curious - and maybe I missed it - how did op arrive at the site he used? Did he do a google search and use what appeared? Or did he type it in wrong?


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: krogothmanhattan on July 02, 2023, 06:12:17 PM
Curious - and maybe I missed it - how did op arrive at the site he used? Did he do a google search and use what appeared? Or did he type it in wrong?

  I wanted to know as well....so using my cell phone I typed in privnote and here is what I got...

 https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/02/SKXso.png
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/02/SKd9T.png

   Notice on the very top I got the scam website pirvnota and when you scroll down you get the real one!


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: krogothmanhattan on July 02, 2023, 06:15:15 PM
 So I tried the same thing on my desktop....type in privnote on google and this is what I got.

   https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/02/SKwal.png

   Different results than on my cell....on my laptop I got the legit website! 

   I wonder why is that!


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: buckrogers on July 02, 2023, 07:10:02 PM
So I tried the same thing on my desktop....type in privnote on google and this is what I got.

   https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/02/SKwal.png

   Different results than on my cell....on my laptop I got the legit website! 

   I wonder why is that!

Probably because you’ve used the legit site in the past, if you cleared your cache, cookies, DNA etc., it may show up a diff way :)


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: MoparMiningLLC on July 03, 2023, 12:27:29 AM
Yes I get that the search results are fucked but how did OP arrive at the erroneous site? By searching? Was he sent a link to use? Did he type it in?


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: krogothmanhattan on July 03, 2023, 11:47:51 AM
So I tried the same thing on my desktop....type in privnote on google and this is what I got.


   Different results than on my cell....on my laptop I got the legit website! 

   I wonder why is that!

Probably because you’ve used the legit site in the past, if you cleared your cache, cookies, DNA etc., it may show up a diff way :)

    I tried this again on another computer that I know for a fact I have never used for privnote and I get the same results.

    Like I said before...is it just on cellphone? Perhaps it is using a different method that detects cellphones and then the sponsor fake website comes to the top? Its probably a bit harder to detect maybe cause its on a phone and not on a computer? Just my theory on to perhaps why this is happening. ???


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: Otillio1330 on July 03, 2023, 01:48:39 PM
Curious - and maybe I missed it - how did op arrive at the site he used? Did he do a google search and use what appeared? Or did he type it in wrong?

Yes was on my cel. Typed privnote into google and this fake site was the first result.  Obviously had not heard about this being an issue before.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: MoparMiningLLC on July 03, 2023, 03:43:38 PM
Curious - and maybe I missed it - how did op arrive at the site he used? Did he do a google search and use what appeared? Or did he type it in wrong?

Yes was on my cel. Typed privnote into google and this fake site was the first result.  Obviously had not heard about this being an issue before.

gotcha - thanks for the clarification. was trying to see if it was a personal error if someone here misled you.


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: MoparMiningLLC on July 05, 2023, 04:08:29 PM
people need to be careful and verify the links and addresses

I asked someone for their shipping address today and I got this:

https://i.ibb.co/SJmMFBt/image.png (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/YZyVxrx/image.png (https://imgbb.com/)


note the web address pirvnota.com


Title: Re: Interesting privnote issue ( issue was that I’m dumb)
Post by: Otillio1330 on July 05, 2023, 09:15:33 PM
Curious - and maybe I missed it - how did op arrive at the site he used? Did he do a google search and use what appeared? Or did he type it in wrong?

Yes was on my cel. Typed privnote into google and this fake site was the first result.  Obviously had not heard about this being an issue before.

gotcha - thanks for the clarification. was trying to see if it was a personal error if someone here misled you.

No I’m just dumb sometimes. Was totally my fault.