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Public beef or fights involving billionaires, celebrities, or even top companies often puts them into the spotlight, attracting attention and generating increased traffic, hence, more income. My question arises as to whether you think some or most of these conflicts are genuine or intentionally crafted/orchestrated by the parties involved to maintain their prominence and financial gains.
Also, could this be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy? And If so, is this a good strategy?

Why do we notice that?
because they fight and are billionaires?
And why are these things worth watching, actually I'd love to see their fight, but you're exaggerating this, we both understand that it can generate signals around them. They are all influential people in society.
I once heard a great story about two cows fighting and the flies around it dying, so it's not surprising that people took advantage of this opportunity to communicate their ideas.
Or perhaps they are simply too lazy about how to make money, just the blink of an eye will take money out of our pockets.

I get the idea that this is because of Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk's potential fight.

If it's mostly hyped on social media, I don't believe that it's a real fight. A beef is just a beef and its purpose is for clout chasing. This is very common these days so, don't believe with anything you see on social media even if gets reported by the media. But you also get to understand if it's an actual thing.

Yes and yes. Negative or positive publicity is still publicity for them. It's just all about of being talked about in the whole town world.

Sometimes we may hear the conflicts between the two well-known parties and this may bring them to the news. We never know if this is being done to gain popularity or if it is just natural. Even we hear some known personality will tweet about the bitcoin price prediction and gain hype. Though their prediction never comes true, yet people listen to them and they are talked about all over the internet.

Sometimes these personalities will publish good or bad news about crypto creating a pump or dump in the market. Elon Musk is a perfect example of this as how he changed his profile photo and/or title to Bitcoin and removed it causing the market to move. These celebrities want to be in the news and they would do all the dirty things to be part of the news. I would not call it a "Good Strategy "

Controversy, Seems to be a good allegation against public figures or struggling actors or content creators for the companies in the market also this strategy seems true to conquer the opponent and increase the attraction towards themself. For the billionaires or elite class I don't think so they really need the public attraction.

Well, it is clear from the outcomes after the controversies that they usually create themself for personal gains.

If you may wish to know, staying in limelight is what everyone would desire because it keeps you at the top notch of the society and helm of affairs. Many of these bruhaha in the society I believe are just to gain prominence and remain notices in the society. It is most common amongst artist and they are all at it being at the mainstream media for just nothing reasonable. Companies do this as well just to attract the attention of the masses to their product and gain cheap publicity. All these are for business and profit making.
So OP, most of all these rantings with celebrities and companies are just a good business strategy.

A publicity stunt is not always the case; some fights are genuine. Many celebrities engage in such behavior to gain the limelight. Sometimes, companies do choose to adopt a negative marketing strategy to gain more audience attention.

You know what they say “there is no such thing as bad publicity” and while such a fight seems like nothing but a PR stunt, people are still interested on it, after all who does not want to see some billionaires fighting each other? In a way this reminds me of the Trump vs McMahon fight in which they both picked a wrestler to fight as their representatives, if Elon and Zuckerberg actually fought each other then this will be many times larger than that fight.

Your last sentence would have been used in the subject as well. Like if I may restructure the sentence, it will be "If this a Strategy, Is it a good Strategy?". Yes it is a fight to attract fans for fame. If I could remember, in those days for about 20 years back, celebrates (musicians) were shooting themselves to overtake the next person position in the music field. They were envy for one another progress. They are fighting for best name and also to tarnish the other person name/image. Most of them are also fake, the fake ones are always coming from oil companies, they fighit to distract the oil producing communities so they can extract the oil freely when the fight is going on. It is also a tactics oil companies used.

It depends on the people involved, a billionaire that makes his money not on social media nor those he need  his image as influence, if such person ever have a public fight is either it's real or he is planning on using the publicity as his new strategy.

I am familiar with celebrities, influencers using this strategy to actually remain relevant in the their craft, does it work? Yes this strategy works very well especially when a musician is about to release a song or album, they use some of this strategy to gain audience.

I do not know if this topic going to remain on this thread or will go into an off-topic thread so I would cover my answer as shortly as possible. Which is, yes and no. Sometimes they do that on purpose because they want to shift all eyes on them and want to be in the spotlight. For example, many say when Elon Musk was presenting his new truck (cyber truck I think) and he said the glass is break-proof and when he hit it, the glass broked which many said he did that on purpose because his rivals will spread that news like fire and that's a free publicity shared by those who do not like that idea.

Is it not funny, they play back games on their rivals and haters and lure them into doing actions that become profitable for celebrities and companies? Like the current scenario of a Titanic submarine going into waters for a tour of The Titanic ship's Wreckage and many still saying they did that on purpose *I am nobody here to judge because the loss is real*

And yes it is obviously a good strategy. did you not watch any celebrity video which is full of cringe and hatred for some groups of people to attract their attention so that those people could spread the word even if it is hatred one and spreading their information is all they want and we are doing it intentionally.

It's also called business, sometimes they need to create a sensation, sometimes don't. What is clear is that they have a certain way of attracting public attention and this assumption can be considered as a strategic element of their business or career strategy. I think that is relative, and people's views certainly differ depending on what side is seen and is the object of attention. I think it's a classic style and not a professional typr in building a business.

Influencers do it daily so I guess it's working. These influencers are banking on attention and they'd do everything to be on the spotlight. Billionaires creating issues to be the talk of the town isn't really anything different, although they already have proven means of making money so there's that. Perhaps, the reason why rich guys do this is because they just don't have anything better to do with their lives. If they wanted attention, they can create news that will not require them to engage in such activities but hey, maybe they really just get bored and wants to fight it out physically?

I knew a couple of such guys. I won't use names, but in the country that I was born, there was a boxer who was bad, so he turned into kickboxing, then MMA and he never did good, kept losing, but people still kept watching his fights because he loved to create drama. He wouldn't shake hands, wouldn't congratulate the winner, would fight dirty in and outside the ring.
People hated him and wanted to see him lose, and that's how he kept making money for years.

IMO this is a good strategy if you are mentally tough and can take the backlash.

This is kind of a culture in the entertainment industry, entertainers stage disagreements and fights amongst themselves all the time in order to promote a new song, movie or just to maintain relevance. I don’t pay attention to celebrity beef, it’s all acting to me.

The Elon vs Zuckerberg fight is crazy and is classic example of how much impact these celebrities have, I don’t think there was any seriousness to it at first. Elon is not a trained fighter, if the match holds, it will be the most lousy match of the century.

The celebrities doesn’t involve in the fight on the talk related to any arguments The celebrities may interfere in the crypto project after their investments in that project.People with more knowledge will do research and inverse in the crypto project.The beginners of the cryptocurrency community will take a risk and do random investment which is not the essential one.The strategies towards the game is essential one.It also includes the trading and investment in the cryptocurrency as like the real stock market investment.

I don't think it was intentional but since these guys are people that are into attention business, they won't want a good opportunity like this to go to waste, remember that both good and bad press are good for business and they will get free publicity for these because a lot of media will want to cover this. Even the fight might be shown on both Twitter and Facebook if they include it in their agreement

Such news keep the public in expectation and it generate attention which is a marketing strategy on its own. In marketing, you need to get the audience or attention of whoever you are trying to convince and in this case, it worked very well that the public are so eager to see that happen and so they kept talking about them, checking up on their social media handles which automatically increase the numbers of views, likes and also followership. Followership is important for them so whether the news created positive or negative atmosphere for them, it surely had a positive influence on their status.

Not entirely. There could be some benefit if possible but I do believe just like many said already that these are just people who do not have too many people who challenge their ego and that's the only reason. When you are Elon Musk, you have lower level people who criticize you and you have workers who will do what you ask or you fire them so you basically have power over everyone, so when another alpha dog like Mark comes along and risks bruising your ego, you end up locking horns. This is of course nothing, they ain't fighting and won't ever fight and all of this is for just show, there is no way they would, they just want to "look tough" but they will not be fighting, that's not going to happen for sure.

These billionaires and celebrities have inflated egos they always want to be in the lead and they want to be praised in all their works and if someone takes that attention from they are threatened and want to challenge that guy this is what exactly happens to the rumor of Mark Zuckerberg - Elon Musk fist fight, of course, this is good to generate attention for their respective business even though there is no need to do this because they will end up both looks like kids who want attention.

Whether intentionally or orchestrated they are gaining attention but it looks like based on their history against each other, they really hate each other and they want a venue to release that hate.

In the last year, we have seen a lot of celebrities who have come out on social media to call out their other celebrities and with this eventually, some are proven to be true while others are just to pull a crowd and make people notice them on their page. This year for instance there is a celeb who got married to another wife and has been creating a scene with that though personally I haven't been interested in knowing more

Well, in my country, people would say that "in every industry or organisation, there are a lot of unethical things going on." Some times you cannot really tell if it's just some planned troubles for their gains or not, but I still don't believe that all those fights and issues are real; some of them are just orchestrated so they can gain more attention. They could also just pay some bloggers to also publicise some fake content with edited pictures or video. In my opinion, as long as those acts don't harm any individual directly or indirectly, then it's good, but anything that harms or inflicts pain on another is bad strategy; it's only for a selfish interest.


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or bottomline, they would want more attention from the public and so can further increase the demand of their respective company services. yes, there's ego involved. you know just part of being human.
also, for some retired athletes calling names, that means, they want more money if they can attract large fans asking for their exhibition fight.

Yes, when career and soul reach bottom, selling out for fake fights are clearly what they do. Anyone who actually thinks these are real fights where danger is actually posed to someone, is sorely mistaken. Every single fight since the birth of YouTube fighting has been in at least some way orchestrated, and the higher the status of the individual, the more orchestrated it probably is.


Lol. Are you sure this isn't just AI playing tricks on you, like it is to so many every day on social media? Or, maybe Elon started this because he can't live without clout, and Zuckerberg is a very easy target. Though, zuckerberg will never go into this, the idea is infantile and stupid..while Zuckerberg is a twat, a violator of our rights and a negative influence on the evolution of society to date, I doubt highly he is stupid enough to enter himself into a publicity fight.

We never know, only the person involved knows whether their conflict is genuine or made up just to get the attention of people and profit from the even when they have to meet in an arena to "fight".


It can be depending on how each camp will approach the media in taking advantage of the situation and promoting their current projects and stuff.  Whether it is a good strategy or not is still dependent on how they capitalize on the attention and how they publish their strategy.

Most of the fight between influencers are just to get public attention, when you see some billionaires or influencers have misunderstand between each other, then you will see that it’s acted and their fight is not real. Most of them just need traffic just to promote their business or any other thing they are doing, most of them just want to have recognition by people.

If their fight is really real, then why will they bring it to the social media, if they are really having fight, then they should face themselves offline and I see no reason why they should come to social media. The real billionaires will fight offline, the once fighting online are just looking for traffic that’s all.

Actually, we cannot explain it with popularity or naturalness. We can explain this with the habits from the past to the present. Does everyone behave the same way, of course not, but previous versions or similar of what we sampled always did the same things.

According to the tweets, those who invest in their future are already doomed to lose, but they are not aware of this. Of course we have to follow some people, but that doesn't mean they're always right.

As the Bitcoin halving approaches, even more people will show up and say something positive or negative about the market. Some will fight each other. According to some, this is a strategy, according to others, it is a behavior that cannot be taken seriously. This is not a good strategy in my opinion.

I have only noticed this with musicians in my country. When a certain music is no longer trending and the society almost forgetting him. He will organise a beef with another music who is popular. When they trend on social media, the former will likely regain popularity.
Sometimes the unsuspecting audience will want to invite both for a show to see if they will honour. In the end, the musics will gain in the process and the general public will keep speculating and analysing, whilst the musicians will plan another method of public distractions.

I've first read the billionaire and celebrity and those two were the first people that have came to my mind since they've made noise about their possible bout.

Possible, he's always wanting attention despite that he's already got it for owning several known companies.

From what I've read, he's trained physically and that's why he's obliging to make this bout happen. But you're right, this fight has something to do more than what we're thinking as public stunt.

These aren't real conflicts, it's all about marketing. The fights are intentionally orchestrated picking two popular celebrities or a professional fighter and a celebrity to generate most engagement as possible from the public on social medias. So there is a large amount of material to be explored by different professionals of the digital industry, such as youtubers, articles' writers, gamblers tipsters and media in general, besides moving huge sums of money through sponsorship by famous brands which want their products and services being advertised on these events. It's a totally efficient strategy, because people always want to see new modalities on fighting industry.

Whatever the purpose behind it, I'm pretty sure it's for financial gains it may be indirectly, but would eventually end there. This has been used by several social media influencers. They create their own scripted beef and conflict to attract more viewers and subscribers of course to maximize the monetization on their account. No matter who the bad guy is since bad publicity is still a publicity and haters will add value to your views.
If we are referring this to Zuckerberg and Musk, these two guys doesn't need social media monetization majority of the YouTubers does, but they definitely are up into something that will need to maintain their names on every social media and news outlet.

I doubt that the fights between celebs are staged, and I doubt that they are highly beneficial to their business. But it's just a way to keep themselves popular, those people are very vain and get sad when their social media stats go down, so they behave eccentrically to keep being relevant.

As to why this wasn't happening in 20th century - people back then were more restrained, and the mass culture was happening on radio, television and newspapers, while today everyone has their own platform for interacting with their fans through social media.

I can say most of this fight are  gimmick to increase their financial status. I could remember here when two Fuji musicians were fighting then. Both sings to abuse each other and people keep buying. It's even part of the album that sell most for the two parties.

Inspired by Elon "Mars" Musk, and Mark "Meta" Zuckerberg, eh? That's why you created this thread.

As for their conflicts, I don't see any deep reason as to why they need to fight physically. Obviously, this is just for clout, and popularity. They just wanted to advertise their product which is Twitter, and Meta. I don't know if there's any reason why these 2 billionaires will fight in the ring, and TBH when I saw that they will really fight with each other, I was shocked, but at the same time laughing because this is the first time I'll be seeing 2 billionaire fighting with each other. I wonder who will be the next? Jeff Bezos? Warren Buffet might be a judge as well, or even Jamie Dimon. Kidding aside, this fight is just like what Jake Paul, and Floyd Mayweather are doing. It's just for the promotion, and nothing else.

Career strategy? Yes I guess this is a career strategy for them, but for unknown reasons, I don't know why they want to have more popularity thru fighting. I mean they can just debate with each other. That would've been better I think. As for this as a good strategy. Just think about this. Either it's good publicity, or a bad publicity, it's still publicity, and that results to more money, and more popularity.

Whether it's pure feud or fabrication, I shouldn't care about it all.

I'm not really interested in the entertainment space, it's just that I caught some interesting patterns when 2 public figures get into a fight or other scandal where news websites start covering with sometimes exaggerated narratives to extend the duration of the conflict. At least it can be read clearly that it's a kind of attempt to exploit the public spotlight to get a favorable traffic rating for ad revenue on the site.

If that is a strategy, then yes it is the best strategy considering the typical internet users in my country.

It seems so, Like Elon and Mark, they create drama to popularize themselves to the public. I'm not surprised about it because I often find things like this in my country. They attract media interest to publise them by free, because they know people will curious and interesting to find what happen with them. after fame, and people curious to know what product behind them, there is no fighting in the arena, they will greet and forgive each other. They play this strategy is equally like collaboration work and join venture marketing.

Is this related to what I read the other day in an image battle between Mark Z. and Elon Musk? It's like here he relates to what you're saying, am I right?

Maybe, maybe it's just a strategy to get the attention of the majority of people and in fairness they did effectively to get the attention of millions of people around the world in fact, and they did it because of the influence and popularity they have .

Not all conflicts are caused by problems, some of them are planned, and that's how opinion works. Especially if they fight on social media, I think it's more to increase prestige and later impact on each other's business. So don't think about it too much, because the more we highlight them on social media, the happier they will be because that's the goal.

Currently, there are many influencers who increase prestige on social media by creating conflicts. It's not healthy, but it works for the most part. I have been off social media for over 2 years, social media is a lie in life and full of hypocrisy

It all depends...

I doubt that either Zuckerberg or Elon Musk needs more exposure, because they are already very prominent business people. On the other hand you have Youtubers and Streamers that wants to stay relevant and they will fight in these exhibition fights to get maximum exposure for their social media presence.  ::)

I think these fights are orchestrated and planned and not worth my time and money to bet on. I watch the fights, but I will not pay to watch the fights.. if you understand what I am saying.  :P

Unfortunately, we are presented with news of conflicts between one person and another that have an impact on the public, most cases like this happen to artists and they often have scenarios to make their fame come back after their fame has faded due to the emergence of many new artists. What's worse, there are people who dare to get involved in dealing with personal matters that don't need to be disclosed to the public, but because they want their names to be discussed again, they will do whatever they can even though it's private. Ironically, the world of artists has lost its identity, ethics and no longer provides moral education to the next generation.

In the world of entertainment, they don't talk about good and good things, but about how to achieve something they want. It can be said that it was one of the strategies they implemented to make their career go up again, good and bad clearly cannot be modeled in real life.

It is indeed a strategy to raise insight, controversial and contact so as to make people more interested to pay attention, some media companies sometimes make propaganda problems for the news on the rise and in the spotlight, as well as the actors who are not so well known, then they make Problems with Segaja to attract public attention and his name rose to become a topic of conversation and become a top trending.
Things like that are often used to trigger an increase in public reactions and make it famous, and none other than that is a marketing strategy, and yes the aim is advantage.
But sometimes there are accidental problems, then they use something hype to make a profit.
Good or not a strategy like this is relative to my opinion, depending on the usefulness he took after the problem was resolved.

At the end of the day, there's no such thing as bad marketing.
Marketing is marketing, if you are getting people's attention you are doing something right, I guess.
If you are referring to the Musk vs. Zuckerberg fight, this "beef" has nothing to do with a marketing strategy or building their personal brands.
Both Musk and Zuckerberg are extremely rich and famous. Maybe this is just them being narcissistic. Nobody knows how a multibillionaire thinks. I'm also wondering what's the point of this fight. Maybe they are trying to get the attention of the crowd while something important is done behind the scenes. I don't want to get into conspiracy theories here.

In certain situations this dispute is deliberately set up to increase their popularity (especially celebrities). Many parties benefit from the drama they create, print and electronic media can broadcast the news almost every day through writing or television broadcasts. Believe it or not, the higher your popularity the more people are curious about the life you live. The money you have can be a weapon to seek sensation in any way, a strategy for public fights as a business that ordinary people in general cannot do. It is clear that this strategy can improve their careers due to the fact that they are often highlighted by cameras and their photos are displayed every day in the print media.

We could say it is a good strategy because it makes it trending and gets a lot of people talking about it, even if it is really nonsense stuff. Just let's take an example of the recent trend in our country, where there are celebrity boxing matchups as well as a lot of trash talk happening online, which makes more noise on social media as it attracts more bashers and other people. Even though there are more bashers than fans, it is still successful because bashers make fun of it while still spreading the word about it. It is also a plus for them that they are celebrities and known people because the reason for it is really the fight and it makes them generate more profit.

This isn't a good strategy I must correct you, but it's a best strategy. Public needs those kind of fight and the billionaires and other entertainers know the psychology of the humans. They do everything according to the plans and all those fights are mostly fake, and they do acting only to attract the attention of the public. You know because of such conflicts many news channels are running successfully and they earn their bread and butter from such fights. On the other hand there are thousands of social media channels, and only websites, which are earning quite substantial income by publishing such conflict stories on their channels and sites.

This thing will continue this way and nothing will be changed. Even though it is a truth that those billionaires might have some problems with each other in personal life, but the way they show it on social media and online is totally crafted one. That's why they say that "The show must go on," and the same applies here, if they want to be in limelight then they will have to do such acting. Although, it isn't necessary, but you should watch the TV series "The Boys," and you will know that how they fake those stories which aren't even real. The show is based on fictional characters, but still the concept is same.

That is exactly the goal. The more they make noise online, you know that they are bagging more profits. It doesn't really matter whether they have more fans or critics in the matter. What really matters is the level of engagement in their social media handles.
Majority of the misunderstanding that happens among celebrities are all staged and planned. It is the ignorant fans who think that they are serious and make the matter go viral.

There is hardly anything that happens without any kind of conspiracy. This method will not be updated anytime soon in as much as there are people who are readily willing to react to the dramas. They will keep acting and they will keep succeeding.

Even though we can judge which is the setting and which is real, usually the celebrity problems that have been planned will be full of emotional drama and no one will give in, and will continue to end without explanation. And this is just to provoke social media to expose them and become a hot topic which makes their name popular again.
but usually problems like this end up endlessly and just disappear and the goal is for them to continue to exist, and this will make a lot of invitations from several television shows that make them popular again and a lot of money.

Yes. What gets the attention of the masses gets the money. Put an advertisement in that spotlight to whichever is fighting over one crisis and you will generate enough money. In today's media where one click is enough to put a promotion to where people is flocking. Be it zuckerberg vs. musk, tate vs bbc, or any. They make money after those. They got more exposure to the media. It's a strategy to make one's brand make known.

In the world of the rich and famous, it's hard to say for sure which conflicts are genuine and which are orchestrated for attention. It's possible that some of these public beefs are carefully crafted to generate buzz and maintain their prominence. It could be seen as a strategic element of their business or career strategy, as it brings increased visibility and potentially more income. However, whether it's a good strategy or not depends on various factors, including public perception and long-term reputation. Some may find it entertaining, while others might see it as inauthentic.

These celebrities and media's businessmen are constantly in need of new hypes and trends to maintain their exposure on the hot topics. You can see this by Elon Musk's actions, since he is constantly creating new polemics and giving unexpected statements to keep in evidence on news' portals.

Probably Zuckerberg is just trying to reproduce the same effect right now by challenging his opponent for a fight, as this kind of marketing has been working nicely for Musk for years already.

And even though you don't put any cents of dollar on their events, they still profit huge money just with your view. The more views they have, more money is collected from sponsors. So it's totally profitable for these celebrities to engage on such fights, at least until the public gets bored. Then they will have to create another hype... Maybe gladiator's games next time? ;D

No matter how rich or famous you are, you always want more. Over time, they begin to see the world as a playground. They don't like it when they're prevented from doing what they want. I think that's exactly what Elon and Mark are in. They always want to be on the agenda and be remembered for different things.

That's why sometimes I don't want that much money to be accumulated in one person. While there are many things they can do, they try to get the attention of others. Sometimes I wonder if these people are alone. Is all they do just to increase their sociability?

I don't think they care if you invest money in events. They just aim to have fun by creating an agenda. They don't care what other people do.

These billionaires are humans which means they can also have conflicts that could result in public disagreement. Some businesses are competitors which means that they will always want to undo each other and this could lead to public outbursts or even lawsuits. But in this era of social media, most organizations arrange public stunts just to gain public attention. Since they understand that negative news gains more attention, they will always come up with negative stories to push their products or firm. There has been an increase in celebrity sex tapes because it gives them the right publicity and increases their social media followers.


I don't think that organized public fight is a good marketing strategy. This is because they are arranged to promote falsehood and deceive the people. A business or product should be promoted using genuine and truthful means. Even if the fight is genuine, it also has some negative effects on the people. Many young people see these billionaires as role models, so such immoral acts like fighting could influence these youths. Top business owners have the responsibility of acting in a manner worthy of emulation.

There's nothing like bad publicity, marketing is done for the purpose of increasing awareness. Celebrities beefs intentionally because they know they'll be giving the media something to reports on and putting them in the spotlight. Mark Zuckerberg and Elon musk aren't beefing and from how things has played out it seems neither of them are trying to sell anything with this fight they're embarking on so we can ruin all that out.

It looks like this fight is just something the two billionaires wants to do. We all have dreams and maybe theirs is to have a main event when they fight in the rings and this is a good opportunity for them to fullfil their dreams of fighting also this will gain them more fans with the fighting lovers.

With the wealth they have they really have the power for what they want to do,
they've done a lot but it's not enough,
we as spectators can only see it, nothing more than that.

Some of them are deliberately created or arranged by the parties involved to get what they want. At the same time, others can be a diversion of a hot issue and do not want to continue because it could involve many public officials who will be caught breaking the rules.

This often happens everywhere and can be considered something that normally happens so that conflicts like this will continue to develop in another form. But it could also be a strategy that will help him get something like advancement in his career or business.

We will not know what all of that means and can only guess but some people already know that most of what happens around them is an arrangement by certain parties. Hopefully, it doesn't affect us and we just let things like that continue to happen, especially since we don't know the reasons clearly and only get opinions from the media.

You never can tell, but it vary from one individual to the other if the public beef or viral news was intentionally crated or genuine, but I have noticed that our celebrities are most likely to create this fake news reason being just to keep relevance in the society for some while as the main topic of discussion either positively or negatively. Secondly, I have also noticed that most of the online beef we hear could be done by bloggers without the knowledge of the person in question just to drive much traffic and earn lots of money through Google ads, which are always mostly published by unregulated online blogs, and a good reason why its not all the news you see on social media you should believe without proper research.

That is a common occurrence for these people. We can see that the purpose of these controversies is to generate attention and increase engagement on social media. Besides creating attention and attracting a large number of followers, They take advantage of controversies and pique our curiosity to gain marketing or advertising campaign capabilities. Even if they are criticized by many people, they don't care because, for good or bad, they all contribute to popularity and interaction on social media platforms, and above all, they can make a lot of money from them.

To seek fame of course, they billionaires or celebrities must have a serious problem so that their popularity is getting bigger and known to many public figures, but these problems are sometimes planned by some groups to bring down or other goals, not from their own side then you feel the conflict is deliberately made I think it is wrong, Because with their fame, many people take advantage of the opportunity for negative ideas.

Bad publicity is still publicity. Popilar individuals would gain more popularity if they'd do things likewise and what brings them money on such instances, is simply being more known by more people. Then views would follow then monotization. Quite of indirect effect on their chosen careers. There are even instances that these influencers are doing things in contrast with morality and decency. Whether it is a good strategy or not would be determined by those who trusted doing so. It would be off for use to link things with always the trend so therefore, anyone could be someone bigger in the future depending on what lifestyle he is showing perhaps. For sure there's more into this.

Logically right, both good and bad publicity still create engagements with viewers and readers.

It can be used as a good channel to reach those people who show their intention to follow or to know what's going on,
giving those personalities more engagements and additional popularity. I agree that even in the event it created bad
impressions, they can still convert that to a money making tool to earn money.

Business owners now days do anything within their power just to make sure that they are at the top of the chart. Sometimes,  I believe, some crises over certain things are being caused by those business owners, but if this is all about the fight between the New Twitter CEO and that of Facebook CEO, those could just be sent and considered fun and nothing more than that.
 
Entrepreneurs know ways of giving each other shade, and we all know how the results are being announced, not by a real hand-to-hand fight; a winner is being graded based on the level of his achievement over what they are dragging.
 
Any strategy that works for a company in order for the company's goal to be achieved could be considered a good strategy; it doesn't matter how outsiders view it.

To this I will add that there is a change on the culture, on the past billionaires and other people like them did what they could to stay away from the public eye and avoid flaunting their wealth, but now social media has changed even such people and now they want to be on the spotlight all the time, and they have found on this conflict a way to do it, so as unbelievable as it may seem to some, I think this fight may happen due to the desire of both to be seen as being better than the other.

To be successful, a company has to use several strategies at the same time - the so-called diversification of production. If you use one strategy, it may not be the right one. And there will no longer be time to find a new strategy. Those who fight on several fronts, making good use of their strengths, usually win.

If it is about money, nothing is a coincidence. Everything you see on the internet, on the social media is planned. Everything you see, read and hear affects your thinking. That's their only aim. You see an ad of a nice car, you start thinking of that car and then if you have enough funds, you go and buy it.

Is it a good business strategy? It is a brilliant strategy. It is so brilliant, basically every business owner wants to use it. That's why people give ads to the social media platforms like facebook, google and youtube... They do it because it simply works. They make more money than they spend on ads.

Well, from my own personal observations, I think some of those public beefs and actually genuine, most especially, those that invoke two or more highly influencial persons, anything can cause misunderstanding which can or could lead to publicly beefing one another..

But this is not to do away with the fact that there are still some of those public beefs that are orchestrated, that is planned, solely to grab and draw public attention to themselves and their businesses..

I've heard a story of an up and coming music artist who in the quest for overnight fame, and also to make his music sale, went as far as faking his own death, and later faked a resurrection, and while people were talking about the whole incidents, 2 days later, he released a new song - this shows you the length some people can go to sale their stuff, and it is not in my hands to judge or say whether such strategies is good or bad.

I think you're reading too much into this. People are often blatantly transparent and where you may consider it to be some grand strategy of manipulation, more often than not it's just their pure narcissistic behavior on display. If you consider that such people surround themselves with "yes men" type people, then they are unlikely to hear much negative feedback and often end up in an echo chamber of their own making. However it depends what level of "celebrity" you're talking about, as they are quite distinct from billionaires, as some of them only built their supposed "reputation" through the drama that they create. Then you get unique examples like Kanye West, who are both mega rich and court controversy quite often, but still have little sense to show for all their money.

I've seen people, influencers, and celebrities especially build their brands based on controversies. It works because they have what people are interested in hearing. People love drama, but I honestly don't know why they enjoy it.
I don't believe these beefs are as exaggerated as they are in real life.
Some are genuine beef, some are exaggerated by social media, and some are intentionally orchestrated.
There's a saying that all publicity is good publicity. It depends on the industry you are in. If you're in the entertainment industry, this might be true, but other than that, I feel the only good publicity is good publicity.

I don't pay attention to celebrity fights and beef because it's none of my business. I can't be all in other people's business, it just doesn't make sense, except you're making money from it.

I guess this is what people call negative promotions. And yeah, this works like a charm. People are more interested in other's life than their own. Billionaires, celebrities, and famous people whom we call influencers in our society, often do such things in order to gain more support or to promote something. Most of the time they are planned, so that when the situation gets out of hand, they can just come forward and say things like it was all fake and just a drama to get things to cool down.

This is indeed a strategy and it works too. But to tell if it is good or not will have some controversy. First attempt, it will work. But once it's been out to the public that it's all fake, 99.99% chance that it will never work again. And the reputation of that person will be doomed. So it's a working strategy but under some conditions.

Those personalities you mentioned are all popular already. Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk are both businessmen. They own a social media site and they can generate income with it. They can also place their own ad if they want to. The other two must be an influencer and have their own Youtube channels. They can as well run an ad there and make money.

So, I think it's not about the profit on why they are doing it but maybe there is a deep reason about it like Elon can't accept the fact that Facebook got more users than Twitter and he is angry about it. The only way that he think to release his emotion is via a match inside the ring.

People can be never tire of being on top of what's trending and since such traffic can be monetized, most businesses take advantage of this and can do anything to keep up appearances. Who knows, Elon and Mark are just two buddies who obviously know that there's no need for a competition since they both know who's the boss but just to create fodder for the gossip blogs and in turn raking in the cash, they continue the shenanigans.
I remember when Elon Musk challenged Putin to a melee fight and using Ukraine as the price. Honestly he knew that wasn't going to happen but the publicity it brought him was massive.

I will not classify it as good or bad, in business anything can go as long as it takes in the cash.

Here in my country, where people are mostly exposed into social media and almost everyone couldn't even live without the internet. So it would be common for them to be involved in this entertainment like being an influencer, vlogger or product advertisement like ambassador. Well if you're not too dumb to see the intentions behind those fight or we could consider as "acting". Most of these conflicts are two parties that are popular so it would gather all the viewers. I think this is consider as good strategy, Why? Because people couldn't even remember it in months for sure it would be open the topic once me tion but in everyday life you wouldn't even remeber it.

We need to be wise and know how most of these celebrities do there things to create traffic and before more popular. Many kg the beefs and fights we do see online are fake and are not genuine. Sometimes they do that to become popular and gain new followers to the numbers they have. We know that most of these our celebrities even the ones that are not that popular always device a means to trend online so that people can search for there profiles and  follow them. Sometimes they can even ask people to follow some certain profile for the promise of giveaways which are mostly scam attempt.

May or may not, Since I don't really understand what they are doing themselves, we can simply expect the result to reevaluate it.
To me, the move between Musk and Mark brings an exciting atmosphere to different fields, even in the media itself people are starting to split. The level of influence of the two is unquestionable, there are news I see around this match that not only people's interest in billionaires but actually their interest in the fields. both have also increased, like a side effect of stimulants when people use and many problems going around.

This is true, we know that influencers of any kind are not above doing anything to try to get the followers and the publicity they need, but this is nothing really new, we have known for a long time that musicians and actors do this all the time, with some even arranging fake marriages in order to increase their popularity with the public, then it is not that surprising that people like Musk and Zuckerberg are now doing the same in order to increase their popularity all over the world.

They're popular already but I don't think they'll be spending this much time all for nothing.

I think do get it now and there's this benefit for the both of them. Recently, Mark just launched his new app which is called Threads. And that's a good entry and timely advertisement for him to get the attention of everybody.

Let's see what's with Elon next.

Well I don't know nor other countries but this has been an obvious strategy  in my country's entertainment industry  but I think it's a casted strategy since almost everyone is aware of this one but I love my country  because they will still patronize you if they truly love you.
But anyone in the entertainment industry already have the mindset of making profit and if having some staged fights and conflicts will help boost the  productivity, then I don't really think it's  a bad idea because even those who staged fights are ways easy to spot and most times we enjoy watching them and hoping to see the best ones.

I'm sure we are coming from almost same country it seems this thing is already a casted thread in my country and by now its an old fashion and I'm sure this celebrities are already aware of this and changing the thread.

Everyone has their own methods of promotion, such as clickbait headlines. The question is how well they are used. Staged fights are a long-standing mechanism for attracting popularity.  Shocking content is not uncommon either. In order to become famous, any means is good.

There is this recent one I am reading about an actress in one country. She wrote a book in which she dragged the names of other celebrities out to the public and poured all sorts of accusations against them. Some people said her story was real, while others said it was just all fiction. But the interesting part of the story is that this actress has sold a lot of copies of that book for £ 7 pound 💷.  So, it can be clearly stated that maybe all those fights were to gain more exposure and also make some money from the book. That's why I said it's their business as long as what they are doing doesn't pose harm to anyone in society.



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If it does work or really that get the world attention into it then it is really that a good strategy but if not? There's nothing to lose on which its a win-win situation for those who are involved on such hype or whatsoever we do see with these personalities on which if you've been aware on how this market behaves or works then seeing these situations arent shocking anymore and its obviously
that everything has been done for the sake of marketing and more exposure of their companies on which it isnt really that shocking anymore.

There are really just that people who arent aware on why these things had been done and this is their primary target on hooking up people to be wary on making use or getting involved
on what are the products or services which these people do own on the time that they would be wary about such thing because of that recent exposure.
Everything would really be having that kind of approach or intent.

Publicity for the business, I guess, more on that side for sure as both well-known personalities are doing good engagements.

With how they are attracting readers and viewers with this controversy, they will earn more
potential followers and whatever it is, as long as they will manage to bring the attention both
from their business and for their own popularity, that will still serve the purpose.

I think it's less about getting more into the spotlight and more of them just goofing around cause they got millions anyway and they can do whatever they want. They need no further introduction or exposure as they already are rich for one, and are notable on the other. They don't need to do it for anything other than for the hell of it. If you're talking about Elon and Mark's debacle I guess it just boils down to the latent animosity that both had for each other since time immemorial lmao.

Honestly would love to see more billionaires putting it out on the ring, instead of court rulings and stuff.

It is a rather subjective situation, and I think it depends a lot on the public figure in question, there are influential people who choose to always stay away from the "eye of the hurricane", however, in some cases to be constantly pursued by the media they find it difficult and bears that do not want to come to light, beyond this rarely the same is significantly detrimental, Being in the middle of a headline, even a negative one, can mean more coverage, especially in the case of social networks and their main handlers, although it can also be convenient for Tesla even the realization of some jocular comment, this may or may not be intentional, but what I am sure is that the leaders behind this make the most of situations like this.

This is most practice by the celebrities whom are almost forgotten by fans so they would make an outbreak to drag the people's attention towards them.

The politicians/billionaires plays this role using the masses as tool source of financial generation putting the masses on confusions and in conflicts in order to set the masses attentions off things that matters feeding on the public funds while they sets some group of the masses settling for less without undermining the lost and damages accompanied by its act of actions.

Companies would be at its own risk if involved in such act though the competitions in the  labor markets has tendencies of breeding such a evil characteristics because everyone aims to be on the first classes.

Summary: Yes it's a strategy but not a welcomed strategy because it's hazardous and a disaster to the public.

Are they doing that for fame or attention? I don't think so, because of being a billionaires already doesn't need anymore public stunts for it's they are already have the edge to be on the top of their lists. This come with recent events that involved with Elon and Zuckerberg right? It may sound silly but it might have a good effect towards it because they will do the fight in the cage for the charity. So, it's a win-win situation both parties for having a good entertainment and good humanity act!

They will use the most of it and the sure thing here is the exposure or, better to say, huge exposures.

We don't know what the real intentions are, but with how they manage to engage many readers about what they wanted to
do and what the people will expect from them.

It's something that delivers the good news in the sense of making more people to be aware and making them engage
to whatever the personalities/influencers are currently doing.

It seems that the reference starts from the two social media owners who will fight :D
Regardless of their image in the end I still feel that for their benefit they will clearly benefit because in this case their traffic is lifted and of course the big names like social media that they have will obviously also experience an increase so in this case for them it is clearly profitable.
But that does not mean that this can be a strategy for everyone because for those of us who do things like this it seems that we will only be an idiot in the eyes of others, different stories if big names like Elon or Mark Zuckerberg do it and they won't be able to do it every time ofcourse.

This is indeed not for fame but there’s something else and I know they are not the real enemy here and probably they have the hidden agenda for this one, imagine being a billionaire and you’ll lower yourself just for this, something is big here. There’s no conflict between this two, not until Meta releases their new platform Threads or maybe Elon and its company already have the idea about this one and that’s why they started to making noise.

At this point it is difficult to know what is on the minds of those two people, however while I think the billionaires of the past would have never done something like that, I am not so sure this holds true anymore, while Zuckerberg did no created social media he brought it to the next level, so it is obvious that he is not only influenced by it but he is totally dependent on it, then it would not surprise that even if there were other motives behind their actions, they may want to legitimately fight each other.

Celebrities and public figures that have faded away from the spotlight or loosing recognition across the public domain are fund of using this strategy to pull themselves back into the spotlight. They create certain controversial sentiment like statements or actions well heated all aim at self or brand promotion. It's a good strategy mostly with the internet easily making it spread like wide fire but it doesn't always end well as few cases sucks. Being original would be preferable to me finding myself in such class.

I believe this is a strategic method of this billionaire and celebrities also do the same thing in other to create some trend that will make people talk about them in order to create some hype that will make people focus on their business.
The method they are using is like the method used by the meme coin team.

Marketing strategies are of course very diverse, in my country there are 2 companies that are always competing and seem to do everything they can to win, and sometimes it reaches court, but in some cases they stop it so it looks like a drama being made so that the media wants to cover about them.

Since you don't give any context, so I am not sure who are these celebrity or from which country are those celebrity you are talking about. But in my country most of the time, if a celebrities or public figure share publicly that he has a conflict with another public figure it's mostly staged and orchestrated. And following the popular thing on the US now, those public figure will held a boxing match, people buy ticket to watch two amateurish and incompetent boxer to fight.

But if most of people in this replies are right, you are talking about Zuckerberg vs Musk beef, considering that they are in the same industry they must know each other personally and have seen each other several times, I don't know if the conflict is staged or not, but they definitely doing that to get free ads for each of their own platform, Zuck with his new Thread and musk with his dying Twitter.

If the language in my country is called China one building  ;D ;D. and naturally this happens because both of them have complete requirements, for example if they take part in a public auction for a project that is released either by the government or the private sector in the process. and ultimately the public nod they need to keep their name shining. Trade Strategy.

Mark Zuckerberg showed off his muscles during a training session with two famous MMA fighters, days after another boxer posted a photo with billionaire Elon Musk.

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I also don't believe these two tech billionaires have a fight, but their platforms are fiercely competitive. But really, what's going on around this issue makes them, or the corporation
involved, receive great attention, and everything can be brought up as the subject of comparison.

If I may know, what company are you referring to? And what are they both engaged in so that they can go to court when they start competing by building a marketing strategy. For me, competing in common sense is still a very reasonable category, but if a marketing competition can bring them to court, for me that is a very strange thing. Because every big company that already has more experience in marketing their products, of course they already know which path they have to take without having to involve them in court or into the realm of law.

Trading strategy and marketing strategy are actually not much different, although in terms of product marketing each company must look at the environment that is most visited by people by knowing what needs are often demanded by the people there. Apart from that, every company always prefers to make branches when their parent is more advanced and bigger, but for the trade thing you mean, I think it's just about an auction which doesn't happen all the time, even though it often happens every year.

It is difficult to know whether the conflict involving large companies is original or just setting in order to get public attention, large companies certainly have sufficient human resources and finances so that when there is a conflict then they can continue to operate, especially if there is no news then people will be easy to forget.

Always yes. Almost all the companies and billionaires have their PR team who themselves orchestrate such fights for their financial gains in even when their publicity is being adversely affected. I think the reason for this is very obvious we humans are too much interested in lives of others and also remember the people who have been involved in some sort of clash with each other.

Billionaires like their privacy. They have no time to be engaged in public noise making they want their peace and quiet. They make their money through thinking and strategizing ways to make more money. So every little of the time counts. Whenever you see them in the news for something else it is possibly just a mistake. I wouldn't say this is for all billionaires or multi-millionaires. Some of them actually like the attention. Someone like Elon Musk, Grant Cordone , Robert Kiyosaki and some others like the attention and may even go as far as saying something controversial just to stay in the spot light. Well if it adds more dollars to their pockets, who are we to judge them

Short answer is yes. All PR is good PR, and PR firms will manufacture certain narratives.

I'd also note that this applies to Bitcoin as well. In my opinion, the politically motivated groups and perhaps others specifically manufactured false narratives against Bitcoin starting some number of years ago in order to spread propaganda when Bitcoin was on the cusp of becoming mainstream. Perhaps they paid some media groups to feud with crypto for sake of creating uncertainty but I don't believe it was organic.

Think of how easy and cheap it is to manipulate the conversation just by using social media bots alone.

Of course, each of them has a different point of view and character and this cannot be separated from the role of the media crew as well, so that they become public figures on social media and mass media. But it is also possible, most of what we see, there are those who put more emphasis on focusing on work without the need for media exposure. I personally assume that with more exposure it is usually easy to know where the conversation is going and get feedback from what they have said.

My assumption is not entirely that it can be considered a precise strategy. they are only looking for sensation and often become a setting to attract public attention because what they are really after is not that but something else. For ordinary strategies, they always have a team of experts who are able to carry out their project missions in a timely manner, both in terms of trading and projects that require special experts.