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After the super pump of pepe who started the project on 2023 April 16th, many people started to make their own project. And we suddenly enter memes season, But, i found most of them is scams project, we can say 99% all of new project is scam (pump n dump, marketing wallet fraud, rugpull, etc). I just thinking after being scammed by hundred of new project, there will not project become the next pepe !!! Should i make my own project ???
Open Source Launch (https://t.me/stealthlaunchCp)

1 day before launch, everything will be announce, project name, logo, website, whitepaper, tokenomics, etc. Why i share here, because i want everyone have opportunity to enter at the begining, 100% supply for liquidity on dex, no team token, no pressle, no whitelist, LP will be locked forever, contract will be renounced at the right time, this is not like other project which the project team have a previlege to buy first (large amount of supply) then announce the contract, so they can dump the price anytime. If i launch with that way, how can i scam the people???

When Launch ?
End of july 2023

You can only make a x1000 profit if you are the owner of the project or part of the the project that has an insider news and early access to the token before it will be listed to the market. it’s very hard for a normal trader to get that kind of profit if you are just buying on the market since you will have no idea if the project is scam or legit. the majority of altcoins that pump like pepe coins has a lot of budget to fund marketing and liquidity to boost the price in early stage to create a hype.

You will need huge money if you want to launch your own token and reach a x1000 profit using your own token. It’s harder to create your own token rather than having a connection for an inside trade.

Starting your own project should only be considered if you have a genuinely good and legitimate idea, coupled with a clear vision of what you want to achieve. Otherwise, your project will be no different from hundreds of other pump-and-dump scams out there. Good luck!

Go ahead but why would that pump? You do realize that Pepe token and others have teams with experience behind them, even though they are pseudonymous it's pretty clear how connected pepe for example is. You don't attract that much whales and get listed to binance immediately if you are not connected.

Even those rug pulling scammers have experianced teams. You don't pump something by yourself unless you have ton of extra money to do that. And no one is buying a generic token with anon single dev

The main problem is not to make a new coin, but that it requires a lot of money. You have the erroneous opinion that any new coin will be a pump, it is for a pump that you will need a lot of money, which obviously you do not have. Just stay away from such coins, so as not to lose your money again.

That's the uniqueness of meme token. You can only find 1 legit project from hundreds of thousands project that available in the market. Im thinking if your coin will have same fate as shit scam meme token if you are making a new one. You shall not need to make your own project.
Just stick with the legit coin that is exist in the market right now. forgot meme token this time.

So, I will be the legit one's, i will not let the scammers make more money by doing scam to more innocent investor. I just thinking that i cant let more people being scammed day by day. I know thats sounds like another BS  ;D

It will only happen if i sell all my bags, so i will make no dev/team token, 100% supply will be on liquidity and start the launch without whitelist or presale. I will start with 3k member of tg or even more, everyone will have a access to buy at the begining, so i will set the max transaction to prevent someone/group manipulate the market price. It will survive in the long run.

What can you offer investors to make them decide to buy your coin? I have previously seen similar attempts by beginners to launch their coin on this forum, but none of them were successful. I am sure that your venture will suffer the same fate if you are not Vitalik Buterin.

So what do you being different from those scam project? If you cannot find legit one then need to create own?
If that is what needs to fulfill so all of us must create our own?
Lol the scenery will be filled with completely garbage lol.

You know, that there are still much people outside there gambling their money on memescoin, i just hate the scammers, they make many of scam project, they steal the money, make another one, they're freely to do that things again n again. If i am not make my own space, they will not have a contender. At least, i will be their contender in memescoin, and reduce that people being scammed.

There are many way to scam innocent investor like i said before, i know what usually scammers do to scam them, Because i am being scammed hundred times. Mostly is Pump n dump, honeypot, leave project with MW, etc. I just want to start the project with fair way, first everyone must have a same chance to buy early, so its better to start with larger community. Btw, i love to be underestimated   ;D

If you have the capacity and skills? And also a good heart with guts? Then why not mate? As i will be interesting checking your new project .
Have not got a chance of gaining from pepe project so if you have one good here? Then let us know please.

even if you make your own project im sure you will hardly create opportunity of having that much increase.
to be frank 1000 times increase from its initial value is rather unrealistic anyway, I just don't think it would be that easy.

No, you will not be able to create competition for them and in the end your project will turn into another scam. And this will happen for the reason that the first ones who bought your coin via telegrams will not be able to sell it in the future, since there will be no more people willing to buy it.

sounds ridiculous, after all you will literally just gonna create yet another shitcoin, from my experience from investing in meme coin in general a coin that reach that much only appear once in a while.
moreover, nowadays meme coin rarely retains their value.

still baffles me how some people think by doing the same thing over and over again they will get different results like thats definitely not gonna happen.
creating your own shitcoin will get you nowhere unless you have some bright different ideas.
the thing is, these coin that could increase that much usually have some unique characteristics.
you just hardly could replicate something like that and even if you could, i could guess your project just gonna fail outright because being labeled as some copycats.
its rather pointless as many have stated to be frank and honest.

he doesn't like those scam, pump and dump projects, and yet he wants to create one.. aiming to acquire alt that will give thousand fold of profits will really put him in a terrible situation where he will likely invest in a crappy project. People should be realistic with their goals and look for worthwhile projects to avoid getting rekkt.
this is the dilemma of most noobs, having the notion that getting into this market will be their saviour and earn huge sum of profits with very little work

you hate scammers, that's ok and something that even i hate, but you need to think very seriously about this idea of creating a project because you can also fall into the same path as scammers and become a scammers too, the most important question i had asking me when I read that you want to create your token, it was the following: what problem will this token solve in this market? low transaction fees? these already exist, and there are dozens of altcoins with low transaction fees. smart contracts? this also already exists. artificial intelligence? this also already exists

altcoin for church? yes, even that already exists, something ridiculous and meaningless but it already exists. data protection? also already exists. token for casinos? also already exists. So what do you intend to create that doesn't exist yet? that's the point. do you plan to create yet another meme altcoin? this already exists, and the question will be: do you have any billionaires to back your meme currency? because if you don't have any billionaires who would back your meme currency if it's your intention to create that then you won't succeed. I think it's best that you take care before creating any tokens, to avoid creating yet another meaningless token that is doomed to failure

And what would make your coin not a scam or at least not another useless coin? I do not know if you have noticed it but we have more than 10k coins in this market already, and if there is something we do not need is yet another greedy developer thinking about themselves and trying to make a fortune out of vaporware, so reconsider about doing this as I am sure that even if you were to create your own coin you will fail to reach your goal anyway.

You can make your own project but you will spend money for nothing unless you come up with an original idea. Even if you do so, you may still end up with nothing. There are thousands of dead alts in the history of crypto. Yours probably will be another dead alt. Why are you getting obsessed with x1000 anyway? If you want that kind of returns you can play dice and set your winning chance to 0.1%. It is nearly the same thing. primedice is a good dice casino. You can wager the money on dice which you were going to spend on your project and you can have your profits in a second.

I am not sure you're dive into memescoin, if you know, you know. If you dive deep into memescoin, you will know what really happen there. The crusial things in memescoin is, first how the dev launch the project, and the rest is depend on the dev it self and the community develop their project. I am sure i can debate all of the wrong point of views for all day long, but only a few will notice that memescoin space very risky because there are many scammers there !

Sure bro, i will inform the project. My goal is to beat those scammers. Is it okay if i share the project in this thread? If yes, i will share, since i am new member here

Original idea ? Its depend on what's your point of view about idea it self. I think there is no original idea in this world, every idea is come from previous generation who develop the science, and the next gen is develop to be the new one. Do you think computer will exist now without algebra ? So the person who create first computer in this world it is not use his original idea, but he develop the previous idea. The hardest thing is not to have original idea, but is to be trusted in this space

Not just you, i always lated to jump into the train. If you want to make your own project there so many things you need to do even tough you have a lot of money isn't as simple as that to creat new project. You need experience team, what project you want to build?, or you just want to make shit meme coins?

You will always late to jump in because you're not the insider, my idea is simple, i will make everyone as a insider. How to do that? Yes, i will put 100% of max supply on dex as liquidity, then share the
contract address immadiately on group, so everyone have a chance to buy early. Of course there is much of details to do this things correctly in order to prevent the project from pump n dump sceme, market manipulation cause by snipe bot or jeeters. It will be new good play and longterm project

if you are paying attention to this topic and at least reading replies since day one , then you will never questioned OP's capacity in creating new project since he is knowledgeable and have big understanding in this kind.
though I am not sure if will going to invest or take part in this , I may say OP can do anything he wanted as long is this will never lead to yes scamming or some related issues to that.

You dont get my point ser, please read carefully. The core of the discussion is all about trust issue. If you ask about will this token solve market problem, definetly yes !! First, my objective is to reduce those scammers, if you ask about the use case? What bitcoin use case /utility? The one and only use case/utility of bitcoin until now is only Gain/steadily increasing.

Go make your own project if you have a good idea and enough money to run it. But you need to remember building the project isn't easy, you need to found the best team to develop your project.

Same too, there so much money i spend on pancake but can't find the jackpot.
If you dare to take the risk then why not? Just make your own project.
But you must know the consequenses if you want to make your own project.
It will draining your time, effort and money.

Another proof that crypto has turned into quick and easy money. Instead of searching and spending time, a guy wants to create another crap or meme coin and flood the market even more when them. Good luck. The only way you can make your own project do 1000x is to have tons of money that you will spend on promotion and to create hype around your project.

Btw, does OP realize, that with his post, he is actually admitting that he is planning to scam people? He was scammed many times with investing in crap project, now he wants to make his own.

If OP thinks, that there is nobody behind PEPE, Dogecoin, Shiba Inu or any other crap altcoin that made 1000x, and the created worked by himself, than he is terribly wrong. Behind big money there is always a team of different specialists.

Like i said before, you must read all or you gonna missunderstand. The crucial problem is about trust issue, there are many of scam dev, who steal MW, sell all their bags at the top, change the tax very high, pull up the LP, and many way.  If i dont do what scam dev did, are you still judge me as another scam project?  

No not only one. Doge coin and Shiba Inu are just two of the few meme coins who are legit and are still here although we are not sure yet if they will do much when the bull run returns. Still, I wouldn't call meme coins unique but almost of them are actually the same. They have no special use case other than being a pump and dump vehicle. There are known meme coins who built another project under them but the idea isn't that new at all.

It already exists before on non-meme coin. I agree with your advice. We don't want another garbage token and we don't even need a non-meme coin anymore because we have tons of coins already in the market and almost all ideas are already given.

Any hype about a 1000x price increase to me is a hoax and a ponzi scheme, how many years do you mean to develop a product that achieves the status or success of projects that have already been achieved? this, like the PEPE story, it makes me laugh more than consider it a safe investment, and any idea about memecoins to me are projects that are not technically competent and concrete solution in the long run they will exit the market on their own as the community earns just pump/dump people.
This market has too many low quality things to compare with quality products, so it is not easy to imagine profit expectations, it is better to seriously invest for long term and safe with stable profit not blindly greedy for profits through fomo following some exaggerated trend.

Yeah but there are still much demand on memes market, very high risk but huge profit, thats the fact, you cant denial. if you read all of this thread you'll know that i am focus on what makes memescoin very high risk, of course the team/dev behind the project, most of them are scammers 99% !!!

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1000x is just a hype so better not look for it, instead look for a good project that can somehow bring profit to you especially now that we are aiming for a bull trend, buying cheaper good coin right now will be a great strategy.

Creating your own project can’t promise any profit as well because you have to spend first for that before someone invest on your project and it should be a good one. Anyway, if you are more confident about yourself creating your project then why not, just make sure not to creat a shit project.

Good projects that have potential will always be there, even though it's not easy to find them either,
take the time to do your research and it is very important,
besides that we need to be careful because there are many scam projects too.

You need the technical knowledge for creating your own project. If you targeting the earn from the rug pulls project, please don't start any project. We don't need another rug to pull a project for the crypto market. You can try to invest in coin projects rather than token projects. Because ecosystem project has more potential than others.

Eg :  Arbitrum , Optimism , Zksync

What you are trying to do is like scamming; scammers should not exist on this forum. It's a stupid question to lose money on projects that tend to follow the memes that resonate. I lost my stupid money because of greed and wanted to create a meme project to redeem myself. Then you are no different than those guys, who are even dirtier than them. After all, right from saying it x1000 times, you have an illusion of faith in this market.

So do you intend to create a memecoin project?

I don't mind too much about the link you shared, but looking for X1000 to me in investment is all an exaggeration, and to me such a return is usually not an investment, I used to make a profit. The biggest profit was about x200 thanks to buying tokens from the 2018 ICO, but really then to me it was just a risk like a game of chance and not too much of you. Later, when the bull season was over, I also realized the lessons of investing in not having to fantasize about the opportunity to get rich quickly, instead of unreliable altcoin options that cost money assets and cause more stress, pay more attention to the core thing like btc, or top altcoins to have more time for other things in life, rather we all have to balance life between different fields.

I think it is incorrect to put ZkSync on a par with Arbitrum and Optimism, for the reason that you can really invest in the latter by buying ARB and OPT, but not in ZkSync. How can you invest in something that doesn't exist at the moment? This can be done after the team decides to issue its own coin for its blockchain.

thats true but then again everyone could always try their luck to get some qualification in their upcoming retroactive airdrop though it was all still rather unclear honestly.
but if even the team hasn't even released their token, didn't that simply means the opportunity of having massive returns will be there?
though I don't even sure having share of the upcoming token will be an easy feat. at least someone must have contributed enough to the blockchain like testing it to get some share of that
token distribution honestly.

And what would make us believe that the project you will make won't be like the 99% of projects that scammed their investors? And why would we be interested in investing in your project? Everyone wishes to get 1000x or maybe even more if they can, but it's not that easy to achieve that target, if it was as easy as creating a meme coin and making a post in a public forum, we would have millions of billionaires in the world right now.

Also, meme coins or tokens that are not even scams are not worth investment once their hype dies away, no one gets anything significant after they enter these coins very late because these tokens only provide great profits to their early investors and not those who get in very late.

Don't go after them and be like these scammers. Don't add yourselves but instead, help the market to stop these kinds of activities and tricks otherwise, you were also a reason why people distrust crypto and fail adoption.

But I know they won't last long and their existence is short, they'll soon give knowing that investors are not innocent enough to fall into their tricks. Therefore, stop thinking about it, if you wanted to create your own project then make sure that it has value and has a working product otherwise, you will only fail like these scammers.

I dont even launch the project, but you just judge me  scamming? Thats non sense. 1 day before launch, everything will be announce, project name, logo, website, whitepaper, tokenomics, etc. Why i share here, because i want everyone have opportunity to enter at the begining, 100% supply for liquidity on dex, no team token, no pressle, no whitelist, LP will be locked forever, contract will be renounced at the right time, this is not like other project which the project team have a previlege to buy first (large amount of supply) then announce the contract, so they can dump the price anytime. If i launch with that way, how can i scam the people???

In the world of decentralization, it is very common thing and creating own contract is now become so easy and everyone can create it. Social media is main source of promotion and everyday we see many people scammed by these projects. I wonder how people dare to invest without proper research. Buying new meme coin is just like gambling and anytime project owner can remove Liquidity and you will not be able to sell. We should always be careful and invest only when token launch in big exchanges.

What is your purpose of making new projects? To follow those meme coins journey that the team just want to make some quick money from scamming people through viral assets? If your reason is that, then you are no different from those scam projects.

You can't just make some random shits and pray something is gonna happen. You need lot of preparations to do first in order to even get recognized by the community here.

If his only profit is to follow those who can make a lot of money then he is like a scoundrel because he will also try to cheat with the same scenario, so why make a project if you don't have an idea of the vision and mission?
Many meme coin projects end up being scams after having many investors they just try to increase the price of the token in the market and throw it back.
I don't think making a project by myself is not going to happen, it needs a community and other developers, moreover for other purposes, not development, this looks like revenge because maybe the OP often sees meme projects that become scams until they finally follow that way.

this is not the first time this has happened, because when Doge increased very high there were also many meme projects that started to appear and most of the projects that appeared were just scams, therefore in my opinion meme coin was very risky and to look for meme coin projects that could give me a big profit is very difficult, so that's the reason I rarely choose to invest in meme coin, because investing in meme coin has a high risk.

thats true even though many kept saying that sometimes the fluctuation of meme coin or rather the volatility could be giving massive profits in the long run but I just think that because of the reason that very few meme coin actually is pumping, finding one that can rise massively will not be some easy feats.

Please Read all before comment, you will understand what is my purpose (vision)

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