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Title: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: cafter on July 05, 2023, 02:09:31 PM
is it allowed to open two accounts with same ip,  two account of different house members like two brothers with same phone.

i searched but not got any specific answer of this question. please answer if anyone of you handle two different binance account with same phone or same IP.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 05, 2023, 02:11:02 PM
You shouldn't have any issues using multiple accounts with the same IP address, otherwise people using VPNs would've already had issues doing so. Besides, Binance requires KYC which is a more reliable way to know if someone have another account or not.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on July 05, 2023, 02:17:57 PM
is it allowed to open two accounts with same ip,  two account of different house members like two brothers with same phone.

i searched but not got any specific answer of this question. please answer if anyone of you handle two different binance account with same phone or same IP.
Thats super strict if using a trading account would be restricted upon family members. Of course they would allow that, a business like that encourage more users and in a house with 5 or more users using the same internet isnt an issue. Besides, they would do their own KYC at all even though they are using the same IP. I believe they only restricting accounts with suspicious deposits and withdrawal that are linked with known scam wallet address or notorious sites.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: cafter on July 05, 2023, 02:18:24 PM
You shouldn't have any issues using multiple accounts with the same IP address, otherwise people using VPNs would've already had issues doing so. Besides, Binance requires KYC which is a more reliable way to know if someone have another account or not.

yes, with kyc of two different people with different documents.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: _act_ on July 05, 2023, 02:22:18 PM
Trying to have an exchange account when not capable to get a smart phone or computer that he can use? I will prefer to have my account on my phone or computer with only me able to access it, not to manage it with any other person, not even a family member. Tell your brother to get his own phone or computer for it. Over 18 years people suppose to have at least a mobile phone that can browse.

I do not think Binance will do anything too. You have different identification documents, no problem. But what I am concerned about is privacy.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: cafter on July 05, 2023, 02:25:22 PM
Trying to have an exchange account when not capable to get a smart phone or computer that he can use? I will prefer to have my account on my phone or computer with only me able to access it, not to manage it with any other person, not even a family member. Tell your brother to get his own phone or computer for it. Over 18 years people suppose to have at least a mobile phone that can browse.

I do not think Binance will do anything too. You have different identification documents, no problem. But what I am concerned about is privacy.

this is just an example for better understanding.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: BD Crypto on July 05, 2023, 02:50:35 PM
is it allowed to open two accounts with same ip,  two account of different house members like two brothers with same phone.
Including Binance many other exchanges support subaccounts or same ip for another account but not all. You can easily use multiple accounts in Binance for only trading with the same ip without any issue but there might be a problem. You will be probably disqualified from their different campaigns like Play Wodl, Quize Answer and many more.

So many exchanges will disqualify you from their some of the campaigns where you should join one account with one IP and obviously unique devices. I saw that Coinw exchange disabled withdrawal option for multiple users who wanted grab promotion rewards. So it's risky for some of the exchanges. So why you should miss those profitable campaigns just for using multi accounts with the same IP?


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: _act_ on July 05, 2023, 03:08:21 PM
Including Binance many other exchanges support subaccounts or same ip for another account but not all. You can easily use multiple accounts in Binance for only trading with the same ip without any issue but there might be a problem. You will be probably disqualified from their different campaigns like Play Wodl, Quize Answer and many more.
He is not talking about having subaccount, he is talking about him and one of his siblings to have Binance account on the same device, using the same IP to connect. That means that they will have different identication documents and different accounts, but using the same device and IP addresses.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: BD Crypto on July 05, 2023, 03:15:27 PM
He is not talking about having subaccount, he is talking about him and one of his siblings to have Binance account on the same device, using the same IP to connect. That means that they will have different identication documents and different accounts, but using the same device and IP addresses.
I know that In Binance for different accounts you have to submit different identification documents. But still now he will be disqualified from some of the campaigns in Binance as he used same ip or same device for different accounts as I said previously.
I just told it before and just added sub accounts word for more clarification about other exchanges.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: Nwada001 on July 05, 2023, 04:02:25 PM
is it allowed to open two accounts with same ip,  two account of different house members like two brothers with same phone.

i searched but not got any specific answer of this question. please answer if anyone of you handle two different binance account with same phone or same IP.

It's fully allowed; in fact, there are no rules against that. If you check very carefully about the Binance referral program, it says to refer family and friends. which means you can also be in the same house as the person you are referring to.
 
The only place you are going to have the same IP issue is when you try to login to an account that was not originally created with your country's IP. That's when extra security measures will be required of you in order to prove that it's really the real owner trying to access the account.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: Zaguru12 on July 05, 2023, 04:46:40 PM
I know that In Binance for different accounts you have to submit different identification documents. But still now he will be disqualified from some of the campaigns in Binance as he used same ip or same device for different accounts as I said previously.
I just told it before and just added sub accounts word for more clarification about other exchanges.

I doubt that because even on two different phones an IP address can be the same if they are even connected to the same network (WiFi) so imagine a house or company where people connected, do you say they will be restricted from participating in some campaigns? I doubt. Because even on the same phone all you have to do is to log out from one every time you want to log into another. With both accounts having different KYC it will not be a problem.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: Faisal2202 on July 05, 2023, 07:56:22 PM
is it allowed to open two accounts with same ip,  two account of different house members like two brothers with same phone.

i searched but not got any specific answer of this question. please answer if anyone of you handle two different binance account with same phone or same IP.
I think yes, you could open two accounts but not at the same time because to use 2nd account you have to log out of the previous one and then signed in to the 2nd one.

Or maybe you could use the parallel app to run both accounts on two different Apps on the same account. I never tried it but I think your two account will work.

But why are you trying to make your brothers account on same smartphone, while you could make it on your brother's phone. Well, I am looking forward to know from you once you checked either two accounts works or not.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: jossiel on July 05, 2023, 09:40:51 PM
As mentioned about being verified(KYCed) that shouldn't be a problem if both of you and your brother can provide separate identities to them.

But having the same phone, much better if both of you has got their own phones so that you can have no problem just for verification purposes like having code through SMS.

However, you can easily have this solved through the other one through email and yours on your phone but this isn't a big problem at all although it's just recommended to have each of you have your own phone numbers.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: Rikafip on July 05, 2023, 09:46:14 PM
is it allowed to open two accounts with same ip,  two account of different house members like two brothers with same phone.
If you meant registering account using the same mobile phone number, I don't think that you will be able to do that but you shouln't have issues having two accounts registered on the same IP.

I have Binance account since 2017, and few years ago I visited my brother who created his own Binance account while I was visiting him, meaning both of us had the same IP address and we didn't have any issues whatsover so I don't think that you will have either. After all, you have to go through KYC in order to use Binance so there's no worry that same person will create both accounts. At least not theoretically that because I know that there people who created more Binance accounts using their family members ID so they can get more Binance debit cards and that way circumvent daily ATM withdrawal limit.  :P


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: logfiles on July 05, 2023, 10:59:05 PM
It's a little confusing as per their terms of service

Here it's as though they are not strict on opening multiple accounts but still maintain that each user should have only 1 account.
a. Registration
Each User (including natural person, business or legal entity) may maintain only one main account at any given time. However, Users can open one or more subaccounts under the main account with the consent of Binance. For certain Binance Services, you may be required to set up a specific account independent from your Binance Account, based on the provisions of these Terms or the Supplementary Terms. The registration, use, protection and management of such trading accounts are equally governed by the provisions of this Section and Section VI, unless otherwise stated in these Terms or the Supplementary Terms.

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b. Eligibility
By registering to use a Binance Account, you represent and warrant that: (i) as an individual, you are at least 18 or are of legal age to form a binding contract under applicable laws; (ii) as an individual, legal person, or other organization, you have full legal capacity and sufficient authorizations to enter into these Terms; (iii) you have not been previously suspended or removed from using the Binance Platform or the Binance Services; (iv) you do not have an existing Binance Account;

The good thing is that you will be asked to perform KYC verification, so they will eventually know that you are two different individuals from one home.



Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: examplens on July 05, 2023, 11:06:15 PM
It's a little confusing as per their terms of service

Here it's as though they are not strict on opening multiple accounts but still maintain that each user should have only 1 account.

I believe that this term was written before they introduced mandatory KYC. Now the whole thing with the rules about creating multiple accounts seems pointless because it is only possible to pass KYC once with the same documents.
I assume that everyone is aware of the risk of using fake ID's or documents of another person without their knowledge. I mean the risk of freezing funds until the "original" person confirms access to the account.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: virasog on July 06, 2023, 11:55:45 AM
It's a little confusing as per their terms of service

Here it's as though they are not strict on opening multiple accounts but still maintain that each user should have only 1 account.

I believe that this term was written before they introduced mandatory KYC. Now the whole thing with the rules about creating multiple accounts seems pointless because it is only possible to pass KYC once with the same documents.
I assume that everyone is aware of the risk of using fake ID's or documents of another person without their knowledge. I mean the risk of freezing funds until the "original" person confirms access to the account.

This becomes even more dangerous if you have opened one account with your original documents and you open another account wit fake documents using the same IP and device of your original account. Once got caught they may not only block the fake account but also your original account will be at risk.

I am sure if there is brother / sister in the home, he or she may have the same IP but the devices (phone) will not be same. Don't think anyone shares their mobile phones with others in these days.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: ultrloa on July 06, 2023, 12:25:06 PM
is it allowed to open two accounts with same ip,  two account of different house members like two brothers with same phone.

i searched but not got any specific answer of this question. please answer if anyone of you handle two different binance account with same phone or same IP.

Binance don't mind that as long as you didn't do a Kyc using the same identity for two accounts since for sure they will not allow that. But its confusing why would you create a two accounts while one account is fine since you can use their service without any problem and limits on one account is fine. Also don't do any illegal activities since provably you can easily get flagged by them and might you encounter some problem on their platform.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: hugeblack on July 06, 2023, 01:43:53 PM
this is just an example for better understanding.

Even your service provider will not give you a unique IP address, and therefore you will find people accessing binance with the same IP address as yours. If you need to create more than one account, binance provides you with the option to create several sub-accounts within your main account, but do not try to create more than one account by using a new phone number or email address because when your providing documents the same ID files will be submitted, and thus the new account will be closed.

BTW, Dont try to use VPN to access KYC exchange. It will make things worse.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: fullhdpixel on July 06, 2023, 02:18:05 PM
is it allowed to open two accounts with same ip,  two account of different house members like two brothers with same phone.

i searched but not got any specific answer of this question. please answer if anyone of you handle two different binance account with same phone or same IP.
I'm not really sure if you can have two accounts on the same device or not, but if you live under the same roof but using different devices, you should have no issues at all since IP address for each device will be different and doing KYC verification is mandatory for every user of Binance, so when you both do KYC verification on your accounts with different documents, there wouldn't be any issues at all as that will be enough proof that there are two different people.

Even if one uses two accounts in the same device but have KYC verification completed for both accounts, they shouldn't have any issues since all they need is that there are two accounts with different KYC verifications, but since a single IP address is being used for both, that might make it a little bit suspicious.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: Potato Chips on July 06, 2023, 11:19:33 PM
The IP address situation is perfectly understandable. I'm just not sure if we add the "same phone" in the equation especially if the accounts are dealing with decent amounts. Afaik a lot of CEx don't want their users using another person's account and using the "same phone" isn't really a common story.

If you must use same phone (device) for both accounts. Just to be sure, I'd ask this to binance, save the convo and leverage it in case something goes south and you're asked to explain the situation. You could use the live chat as a guest or hit on their subreddit - r/binance


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: UmerIdrees on July 07, 2023, 05:27:20 AM
BTW, Dont try to use VPN to access KYC exchange. It will make things worse.

I had this experience before  :(

I just connected my VPN on my phone and it connected to the US server. I forget about it and later opened the Binance app on my phone and it showed an error message that you cannot use this Binance in the US (something like that). I disconnected my VPN and tried to log in again and luckily it worked.

I knew my friends who got their accounts blocked by accessing the Binance app from the US IP (For the US, Binance have a separate service at US Binance), and they had to talk to support in order to get their accounts restored.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: hugeblack on July 07, 2023, 01:03:39 PM

I had this experience before  :(

I just connected my VPN on my phone and it connected to the US server. I forget about it and later opened the Binance app on my phone and it showed an error message that you cannot use this Binance in the US (something like that). I disconnected my VPN and tried to log in again and luckily it worked.
It appears that you completed KYC L2+ and contacted the VPN during an active session from a previous IP address, otherwise such a mistake would be sufficient reason to close your account, request new KYC, or more AML data and they have a valid excuse that they suspect that your account has been hacked.
These platforms use any change in user behavior as a signal to close the account in the hope that you will not be able to provide the necessary data, so it is the first if your country is not allowed to use a CEX, do not try to solve this problem using a VPN.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: UmerIdrees on July 08, 2023, 06:34:03 AM
It appears that you completed KYC L2+ and contacted the VPN during an active session from a previous IP address, otherwise such a mistake would be sufficient reason to close your account,

Yes, my account was already logged in and the change of IP caused this message. But the way, i did not know that it was because of the already logged-in account that saved me.  :)


These platforms use any change in user behavior as a signal to close the account in the hope that you will not be able to provide the necessary data, so it is the first if your country is not allowed to use a CEX, do not try to solve this problem using a VPN.

There are the ones who do it deliberately, connecting with VPN in order to access the CEX, but what about people like me who have the Binance app on their mobile and sometimes I need to access VPN in order to connect to some non-crypto related sites? I can't keep two mobiles and sometimes such mistakes of accidentally connecting to VPN while Binance is open at the backend may happen  ???


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 08, 2023, 04:43:46 PM
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I would imagine that such a thing could only happen if you're using a VPN from a restricted region. Since they have to follow certain laws and regulations, it makes sense for them to block anyone with a U.S. IP address. But I don't see them doing that with other locations that are not banned. If VPNs were such a serious problem or something against their TOS, they would've simply banned them and blocked access to anyone using them, they obviously have the resources for that.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: rby on July 09, 2023, 09:02:32 PM
The IP address situation is perfectly understandable. I'm just not sure if we add the "same phone" in the equation especially if the accounts are dealing with decent amounts. Afaik a lot of CEx don't want their users using another person's account and using the "same phone" isn't really a common story.


I do not think that binance is so interested in how many accounts are logging in from one ip address. They will only raise an eyebrow when an unfamiliar ip tries to access the account. There are two kyced binance accounts in my phone and never had issues with them. Both are accessed from same phone (no vpn). But then the kyc data for both accounts are different.
It is therefore correct to say that binance is more interested in their kyc data than other things.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: YOSHIE on July 10, 2023, 05:52:26 PM
is it allowed to open two accounts with same ip,  two account of different house members like two brothers with same phone.
As far as i know Binance prohibits multi account users on their exchange, but you should not be afraid to create your sibling account, even if it is the same IP, however you have to take the sub-account feature path.

The answers to your questions are below.
Binance Sub Account – Beginners Guide & How To Get Started (https://coinsutra.com/binance-sub-accounts/#:~:text=various%20VIP%20level.-,Is%20it%20allowed%20to%20have%202%20Binance%20accounts%3F,have%20more%20than%20one%20account.)
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Is it allowed to have 2 Binance accounts?
No, Binance does not allow users to have more than one account. However, you can have more accounts using the sub-account feature.

For specific answers to your questions are here.
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How do I open a second Binance account?
Unfortunately, one user can only have one verified Binance account. You can open a second account under your blood relative name, and the KYC needs to be done by them. Or, you can use the sub-account feature to have multiple Binance accounts under your name.

For more information, you can read on the link that I posted above, you are safe with sub-account feature and different KYC process, same IP, Binance doesn't mind about that, as long as you are comfortable trading on Binance Exchange.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: Beparanf on July 14, 2023, 05:16:00 PM
is it allowed to open two accounts with same ip,  two account of different house members like two brothers with same phone.

i searched but not got any specific answer of this question. please answer if anyone of you handle two different binance account with same phone or same IP.

Binance is not strict on having multiple account with same. They are actually encouraging everyone to invite family member to join in their exchange when you go to the affiliate details of exchange.

You will only have a problem when having same IP if you are abusing competition such as trading competitions which you are buying and selling by yourself using your two account just to farm trading volume safely. I recruited all my family member amd friends that usually share IP with me. We don’t have problem encountered for more than 3 years.


Title: Re: multi account on binance with same ip
Post by: ananyabushra on July 28, 2023, 02:55:32 PM
I can't say for certain about the official statement, but lots of my friends, including me, have used multiple accounts on Binance before without any problems. If you do the KYC verification using different people's documents, chances are you'll likely be okay.