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I haven't seen a discussion about this fight, so here it goes. This are two Mexican warriors so I expect that this is a great war.

The last fight of Navarette, we thought that we will see a upset, he was knock down by Liam Wilson. But he evetually got off the canvass and win the war and won the belt. We all know that Shakur beat the hell of out of Oscar Valdez, but he did make a comeback. So he is a hunt for another belt.

Valdez is a slight advantage as per sport bookies at 1.5x, Navaratte, at 2.2x. For sure we will be treated by another great fight, and maybe it could go down as a version of Morales vs Barrera

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https://www.boxingscene.com/emanuel-navarrete-vs-oscar-valdez-official-august-12-glendale-arizona--175195

I love to see Navarette fight in the ring his two matches against Dogboe is very satisfying to watch for a boxing enthusiast like me, he always comes to fight he gives it all in all his matches, and with Valdez it's going to be one hell of a fight, as stated by Navarette this is going to be .
It's been a long time since we've seen a rivalry like Barrera and Morales so this could be a potential fight I'm sure it's going to be action-packed and if its close there could be a rematch, I have Navarette winning here by decision

Yeah, Mexican vs Mexican, there will be some blood in the ring for sure.

I think this is Valdez best weight though, that jump against Shakur really shows how small Valdez though against Stevenson and you can see the big difference. But you have to give credit to Oscar for showing in that fight.

As for Navarette, he was exposed in the last fight, maybe he was too confident against Wilson and it's a wake up call for him.

Key difference here will be the stamina as this could be a volume match, so if in the middle of the rounds Navarette gets tired, then I see Oscar taking over the fight.

It seems that this fight is very hard to predict though. Both are Mexicans and as the OP said, if this fight became a war in and very difficult to judge and there could be a controversy, then a rematch and trilogy is needed to even settle the score.

So right now, I can't see who is going to win, Valdez is already back on track, while although Navarette have taste the canvass for the first time against Wilson, doesn't mean at least for me that he has been exposed already. Just one of those fights that you don't see the punches coming and you are caught off guard. Although Valdez is the odds favorite, it might be good to throw money on Navarette, or even a draw.

It's a tough match for Navarette since people are still think Valdez is still a beast in super featherweight division, this would affect the judges.

But Navarette recent fights were good, he mostly won via KO and won via decision when he fought the tough one, similar like Valdez. But Valdez was lose against Shakur, it doesn't look good compared to Navarette which only lose during his early days in professional fight.

I think Navarette wouldn't able to KO Valdez, but he can still able to win via decision.

Both fighters are known to never step back, and love to engage it will go down on who wants it the most. they have the same style since this is an all-Mexican fight this has the making of a classic fight I hope they can give us the fight and the rivalry like the Morales - Barrera match, and this becomes a trilogy in the tradition of the two great Mexicans.
I'll go for Navarette I love his aggressiveness and his attitude inside the ring, boxing fans will always get what they paid for every time they see Navarette in action.

When two Mexican fighters face each other, it often leads to highly entertaining fights. Therefore, I have high expectations that this upcoming match will not disappoint the fans, whether they are watching at the venue or through pay-per-view (PPV) if available. Currently, Valdez is considered the slight favorite, but Emanuel Navarrete's record is also quite impressive, boasting 37 wins, 31 of which were by knockout.

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Good odds and maybe they put Valdez as the favorite because he was the heavy puncher and if that knockdown to Navarette was initiated by Valdez, he would have not gotten up but in boxing styles makes a fight so big chance that Navarette would copy the template that was being used by Shakur to beat Oscar.

Good that Oscar Valdez has already recovered from his lose to Shakur and with this fight, I think he is the one that really needed the win to bring his career on the right track.

It's extremely crucial for him to bounce back strongly and secure a win in his upcoming fight. His loss to Shakur was undoubtedly embarrassing, as he seemed outsmarted and resembled a punching bag. However, he should leave that behind and concentrate on his next bout. Just like Canelo, who experienced a loss against Mayweather but he came back strong and now has become a very popular boxer.

He really needs this win and it should be impressive but it's going to be very tough, Navarette always comes to fight, and both fighters are hard puncher and love to slug it out this is a fight where no one will back up I don't expect the fight to end in a decision, one of them is going to get hit and one of them is going down, I think Valdez will be the one to collect the win, it's a hard fight to judge I'm exciting to see the press conference between these two great Mexican fighters.

These are two great boxers with their own boxing tactics and skills. I love to watch Valdez fight as he is a boxer that never gets tired and don't accept defeat easily. The booker gave Valdez more advantage of winning this fight and I wouldn't doubt Valdez strength and skills. It wouldn't be an easy fight and I look forward to see if this fight will go down like that of Morales vs Barrera. Mexicans are very good boxers and this fight is between two boxers from the same country.

Valdez may have been dominant before his loss to Shakur, but now that he's not undefeated, it's likely that his confidence has been affected. Navarrete may be considered the underdog in this fight, but I believe he has the capability to win. He just needs to execute the right strategy, perhaps even replicating what Shakur did if possible. However, if Navarrete prefers to fight toe to toe, it could still be entertaining for the crowd, even though the advantage may not be in his favor.

This fight is not going to end via decision; it's going to end by KO, and either boxer could win. I'm excited to see this fight. This is the kind of fight I've been looking for, where both boxers are willing to give their all in the ring. While we haven't seen the fight yet, considering the quality of both boxers, I believe they will fight until the end, which is why I think it's likely to end in a KO.

You're right there, And it looks like I can see that the chance for navarette to subdue the opponent for just a few minutes is quite high because his body when he fights is like steel as if he doesn't feel pain.
And his fist when he hits the opponent is for sure as if his opponent has received an iron hit, that's what I foresee will happen like the opponents he knocked down before. So that's a pretty good fight and it's exciting to be honest.

This is likely to be the scenario in this fight, this two are going to want to knock each other out so this could turn into a ugly war and maybe we will see some blood here. The thing with Oscar Valdez is that he usually bleed specially in his face.

And Navarette is like an old school Mexican warrior that we have seen in the past. He will throw everything with vicious intent to knockout his opponents. And again, there might be no technique in him, just pure power so Valdez will have to respond as well so it might not go to the judges scorecard.

It's not that they feel pain, obviously this is a sport that you want to hurt your opponent, so you should have a lot of pain tolerance and not feel the pain itself. So it's more on the psychological, not physical pain.

So with that, I do agree with what others have stated, two Mexicans are entertaining to watch and will not disappoint their fans or even those who might see them for the first time. Valdez is the favorite because he is more of a technical fighter and the quality of his opponents that he face in the past. On the other have, Navarette is making a name of himself as a Mexican, just pure brawler that we love to see.

^^ That will be the big difference in this fight, there style, Valdez = technical fighter, Navarette = Brawler that's why I said it's very difficult to predict. But I'm thinking if Navarette will the brawler like Miguel Berchelt, with whom Valdez KO in the fight and then winning the KO of the year, then this might end up in favor of Valdez though.

He will just time when Navarette comes in, and then his left hook will be ready for that. Or his jab are going to be significant here so that Navarette can't come inside and to throw him off balance.

Both of them are great fighters and still in the prime of their careers. We will have to see, the rivalry between Morales vs Barrera is different though, I mean it seems to be personal for those two Mexicans as they are brought up differently, with different background and that's why the rivalry is really that great.

As compare to Valdez who resides in Arizona, or in the US while Navarette lives in Mexico.

But if I'm going to bet on this fight, I might go with Oscar Valdez as more of a polish boxer as compare to Navaratte who just loves to throw a lot of bombs and it might cause him problems later in the round as he will get tired not hitting a mobile target in Oscar.

That kind of strategy would work on Valdez because Navarrete loves to attack and doesn't play defense well. Against Shakur, Valdez really suffered big time because the latter is also a technical fighter, but simply way above his level. Now it's time for Valdez to bounce back after that big loss, and hopefully, he will have an impressive fight. Overall, I'm expecting a very entertaining fight that won't end in the early rounds.

Shakur is on the different level, and it was Valdez who is going up in weight at 135 lbs and he looks too small that that weight class. And as you have said, Shakur is very sound and technical fighter and Shakur can't keep it with it even if he tries to be the aggressor.

So yeah, just like the rest of boxing fans, two Mexicans will mean it's going to be as entertaining as other Mexican fights before and it could end up in a knockout or war for the rest of the twelve rounds.

That's right. With 37 wins, including 31 wins by knockout, it's clear how strong Navarrete is. So, even though Valdez may be considered the favorite, Navarrete will undoubtedly pose a significant threat. He is not afraid to attack and has a strong desire to knock out his opponents.

This is the modern version of Barerra and Morales indeed and they gonna be making huge noise once they clash in the ring because those boxers are not known to dodge their opponent often and are willing to gamble a counter in the middle of a clash fight. I can't wait to see this one since we often see nowadays some heavyweight fights, this one will gonna be unique in the modern era and it will be a sure unforgettable excitement when they gonna both protect their records and stay at the top by getting the win.

This is a really exciting matchup. These fighters styles are made for each other. Several years ago some people were saying that Valdez vs. Berchelt would be fight of the year but it did not live up to the hype. This time I believe it will be different because Navarrete can take a punch very well. Valdez doesn't have the best resistance but he will always keep coming forward and throwing punches even when he has been hurt. It is hard for me to predict a winner because they are evenly matched. Navarrete has less wear and tear but Valdez has greater experience. I think it will be a close fight and we might possibly see a rematch and a trilogy.

It's a taylor made fight for each other and that's why majority thinks that this is going to be a very exciting and it's going to be a war. Navarette can take a punch but we all know that Wilson put him down, so the aura of his chin is broken. As compare to Valdez who has a great fight against Berchelt and he shows his technical skills in there. That is a big possibility that there will be a rematch or trilogy and could be book just like the other great rivalry in Mexican boxer like MAB against Erik Morales or maybe Manny against JMM.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a rematch of this fight because, from the looks of it, it seems like the battle will intensify right from the first round. Both fighters are renowned for being knockout artists, so we should expect that a knockout is the most likely outcome. However, the most challenging part is predicting the winner, as it won't be a one-sided beatdown.

I know that there are 3 great fights this week.

However, next month, this is going to be one of the most anticipated much. And as you guys says, 2 Mexican in the ring? that's going to be as entertaining fight that we can see.

So far the odds are still Valdez the favourite at 1.57 and then Navarette not that far at 2.26.

Maybe we can see some changes later in the odds are the fight gets close and those fans putting their bets in.

I do agree, everyone is still caught with the big fights at the end of the month and most likely they forget this fight. Anyways, still almost 3 weeks from now so maybe odds are going to change or there could be swing odds.

But with almost all the posters going for Valdez here, so I wouldn't be surprised if he would pull a big win here. And it's going to be very exciting fight and hopefully it will be a fight that we all anticipated, back and forth war between the two Mexican warriors.

We are now focused on the Inoue vs. Fulton fight, but when that fight is over, for sure, this fight will gain a lot of attention. This fight is going to be exciting because both boxers are known for being aggressive and will be looking for a knockout. Although I believe Valdez is going to be the favorite here, he isn't undefeated anymore, so I think that might change things a bit and give Navarrete the confidence to beat Valdez.

Anyway, this is a 50-50 chances for me.

Fight week has been completed, we have seen the mega-fight already. So it's time for the WBO junior lightweight belt to be put in the line by Oscar Navarette. Again, all out Mexican war here.

Initially though, I thought that Navarette will give Valdez a good fight, specially as a champion and he is the underdog. But looking at his previous fight against Liam Wilson, I think Oscar is much smarter and technically sound as Liam is. So I wouldn't be surprised if this fight will not go to the distance and someone will have to taste the canvass here.

Valdez will make sure he wins this fight as he came from an embarrassing loss. He needs to rise in prominence again as an exciting boxer, and that means he has to win by KO. Oscar Valdez looked really bad against Shakur Stevenson as he was dominated in most of the rounds, if not the entire fight. Now, he has a chance to redeem himself, and he will not waste this opportunity.

Just like everyone is thinking, perhaps Oscar Valdez could win via KO.

It's a very difficult match up for him against a defensive Shakur, for me it's like Floyd vs Marquez minus the knock down. It was a total beating. However, I think Valdez really learn his lessons on that fight and that's why he is the favorite here as sports bookies knows that he can bounce back and Navarette doesn't look good in his last outing.


Or the fight not going to the distance here. It's going to be as good as how it is hype, nevertheless, Valdez could win here.

Valdez is the most popular answer for this game,because he need to prove himself in the game.He had many loss in the recent days,So he need a chance to prove himself.But he had only one chance of winning this match and show his power in the boxing ring.He probably preferred to win by knockout to avoid of points pressure at the end.So most of the boxing fans are waiting for the knockout match from Oscar Valdez,because Valdez had the good punching power compared to the Emmanuel Navarette.Emmanuel had some good win in the recent days,but don’t know how he handle big player like Valdez.

Well, obviously, he is the favorite as he has the better record. Shakur is undefeated and was a heavy favorite during their fight. As expected, Shakur really knows how to play the game right, using his technical skills in boxing. He may be considered boring, but he is winning, and that's what matters to him. If, in case, a rematch happens in the future, I'm sure the outcome will not change, and it will still be an easy win for Shakur.

Now, going back to this fight, by looking at every factor, Valdez has the edge, so he better have a convincing win.



It would be nice if that would happen, as even though it's short, if the outcome is a KO, it's always satisfying to watch, especially if it's not an upset win.

Of course Valdez has a name, but Navarette looks better compared to Valdez. Navarette mostly win via KO even he fought with strong opponents. Both of Valdez and Navarette are Mexican, usually Mexican boxers have a tough chin, this would be interesting and might goes to distance.

I'm rooting for Navarette here, I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore.

It's about time we experience some good all-mexican war between these champions Oscar Valdez and Emmanuel Navarrete.
Navarrete  got a scare from Liam in their last fight and he didn't expect the knocking he got and am sure his eyes has opened so much so that we see him training harder than before for the oncoming fixture.
Everyone also wants to win and that's why Valdez is going to rain fury on him if he's not the least on point.

Again, it is a fight between a Three-division world champion Emanuel “Vaquero”  Navarrete and a Two-division world champion Oscar Valdez, with the contested WBO junior lightweight world title on the line.
Am going to put my bets on Emmanuel, although I expect his ass to be whopper until he can either win by K.O or judges decision.

Just to correct you, his recent lost is to Shakur Stevenson only. After that he bounce back with a win against a tough Adam Lopez and win in a decision.

As compare to Navarette who almost lost to Liam, he goes down in the fight and we think that there will be an upset. But he comes back and won the fight. But this time, he is a underdog against Oscar Valdez. So as others says, when the fight is between 2 Mexicans, it's bound to be a great and entertaining fight and there could be knockout or knockouts a long the way.

I agree, Valdez looks amateur against Stevenson, and it just shows how good Shakur is at his level. But the did win a comeback again and won in the judges card. And so he is given a shot again his fellow Mexican Navarette who looks bad on the other hand and almost got knockout by an unknown fighter.

But I guess he has a big heart and believe in himself that he can make a bounce back after tasting the canvass in that fight. And won by a technical knockout over Liam in round 9. And for me this is a fight of the year candidate.

I'm sure it is, it's been a long time since we've seen a rivalry like that of Morales and Barrera, I hope the hype lived up to that they have the same style both aggressive and love to move forward, they don't care being hit as long as they can hit, but compared to Barrera - Morales who hate each other in their rivalry both fighters has respect to each other, let's see in their weigh in and the actual fight, if the fight is close and the two fighters do their things we can see a rematch.

This could be an explosive fight and either boxer would kiss the canvass if hit with those heavy bombs. This is one of the fights that is hard to predict who will win but I'm more inclined to back Oscar Valdez as I think he has more power of the two but we might see an upset here too because Navarrete has more experience than Valdez.

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Bookies predicts that this fight would go the distance but i think otherwise.

This fight is for Valdez to redeem himself. Although he won his previous fight, I guess Emanuel Navarrete was way better compared to the boxer he defeated in his last match, who only had 16 wins and 4 losses prior to the fight. On the other hand, Emanuel Navarrete has 37 wins, with 31 of them coming from KO, and he suffered his only loss back in 2012.

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I think I'll go against the bookies this time, or the public, to be exact. Both boxers have a high KO rate, so I don't understand why bookies were thinking it will go the distance. If their reason is that both boxers have not experienced a KO yet, then how can we explain the Spence vs. Crawford fight where both boxers were even undefeated before the fight?

Initially I thought that Valdez is like 1.5x favorite, but it seems that the odds has moved a lot as we get closer to the fight. I haven't put my bet yet, but if this fight favors Oscar as per bookies then most likely it will be the case that he will win.

And for those bettors, this odd is still big, as they are willing to like bet in the thousands of dollars, so still it's going to be a big win for them.

But for us, this is not the case, and so it's better to look for options here.

^ The latest odds for Valdez is indeed 1.58.

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Perhaps what was shown was the early released of the odds and that's why it seems that Valdez is a big favorite. Nevertheless Navarette backers is trying to close the gap weeks before the fight.

And it's good that we have a lot options now, like the exact rounds. But I would wait for the round range as our chances to win is good, unless you wanted to target the huge odds for exact rounds, but it's going to be very difficult to predict.

Valdez has proven time and time again why he is a capable fighter, some even say he's the next to step into Pacquiao's path which is a lot for a boxer that hasn't had anything going for him until recently. Not discrediting Navarette here and I know he's going to give us a good fight but I believe that Oscar could win this by a massive upset and a massive knock-out. He's been methodical in his every play and he's able to get back up his feet and defeat his opponent without question numerous times even before that massive victory prior to this fight. Navarette has done the same but I just felt like Oscar's got this in the bag despite the odds not being in his favor. We'll just have to see how this fight goes when it all resolves I guess. But oscar's getting this W no doubt.

If there is a boxer than can follow Manny Pacquiao, I think it could be Inoue. And even Manny has given Inoue his blessings as they met in Japan.


If Valdez win, then it's not called a upset mate, he is the favorite in this fight. But the odds makers are putting this fight to go distance. So meaning there might be knockdown/s along the way, but there will be no knockout. But I'm not discounting that perhaps Oscar will used his left hook as his weapons to knockout Navarette as Emmanuel doesn't believed in defense and will just try to bully his opponents.

I'm so sorry but Valdez and Pacquiao should not be in the same sentence. Their path are not even comparable.

So going back to the fight, both have their strengths, I love the style of Navarette of going all out in an offensive manner and he has his stamina build in this kind of fights. On Valdez side, he is more of a technical but can switch to a brawler if he wanted to, just like in the Berchelt fight.

Valdez can adjust for sure, but I think Navarette will stay on his style of brawler and be on the offense every time.

As per the voting,

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Seems that the members are looking for a upset win here? Although the votes are just a small sample size, it was 7 votes on who will win this fight. And surprisingly, the odds maker is putting Valdez as the favorite, but here in our community, Navarette getting the most votes, by KO and by Decision.

Upset for better odds.  ;D

Well, I'm always on Valdez because he is an all-out boxer. He is not afraid to go toe to toe, and the style of Navarette is very suitable for him. Shakur is just exceptional because he is very dominant with his style, but these two, they are very well matched. I just like to bet on the boxer that I believe is more reliable.

The majority of us here wants an upset, but that might change as the fight is approaching. It will happen in less than a week, so let's wait patiently and don't get too excited without putting a bet on your favorite fighter. KO outcome also has better odds. I think less than 6 rounds offer a very attractive one.

Maybe because of his last performance and he showed great skills and strategy no wonder he won that fight. Now his facing one of the great boxer in their weight division and being the underdog will surely gives him motivation to train more and secure a win on this one. I'm also rooting for him to win this and I think it will be by K.O.

Did you know that Navarette went down against his last opponent, he almost got knockout by Liam. So I'm not sure why everyone is rooting for Navarette, maybe we just wanted to see a war and members think that Navarette has the stamina to go and last for full 12 rounds, have his volume punching and then maybe win by decision. But I think Oscar Valdez is too smart to fall for that if Navarette chooses to go all out war. Oscar will used his technical skills to offset or stop Navarette in this track if he becomes aggressive early. But we will see who will outlast this war as we all know that Mexicans fight is a non stop action pack boxing.

Not everyone, it's only the majority of the posters who voted on the poll, choose Navarrete to win, and that's their personal opinion. Well, based on paper, Valdez is the better boxer here, but if you believe in an upset, then betting on Navarrete is not a bad decision. Regardless of the outcome of this fight, I'm sure that we are going to see an entertaining fight since Valdez would not allow it to be a boring one. He would always go for an impressive win, so he will try to win by KO.

If you believe in Valdez to win, might as well bet on him winning by KO. As per the present odds, it's very attractive at +440.

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https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/41651269-Navarrete-Emanuel-vs-Valdez-Oscar

^^ Very good odds still, either way for gamblers. Of course, we want a good odds and so there could be underdog bettors who will be on the side of Navarette.

And speaking of Valdez, I saw him throwing a pitch in the Arizona Diamond Bucks game if I'm not mistaken. So they have embraced Oscar Valdez and for sure they are going to cheer for him to win.

I also read that Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera too will be in attendance to watch this great Mexican war. As they themselves has one storied rivalries during their primes.

Already did but the odds is a little bit lower on our local bookies but doesn't matter to me because that 4.80 odds is still a very juicy odds considering that Valdez has a higher chance to win by knockout. Just wonder though why bookies have speculated that this will go the distance even though Navarette was almost KOed in his last fight.

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Nice, this is a juicy odds mate, I haven't put my bet but I might tail you on this one and most likely I will go and bet to our local bookies as well.

And with Valdez being the technical boxer and as you have said, Navarette was almost KOed in his last fight by Liam who doesn't have the tools like Oscar did. And I think Oscar has the power even if he is the smaller boxer here. Hype is slowly building up in this fight and yeah, even Navarette says that this could be a fight of the year candidate because of the styles of this two fighters.

He might have overlook his match against Liam that's why he was almost knockout in that fight. Perhaps he think that he can just go and smothered him. But Liam was strong in the early rounds and scored a knockdown and thought that it was over and there was an upset.

But Navarette comes back strong after that knockdown and sort of wake up. And then Liam started to fade why Navarette continue with this volume punching and has the reach advantage.

Will look at the under 10.5 rounds, still good odds at 2.76 at my favorite sports bookies. So at least whoever will win and it will be under that rounds, I have a better chance to get that win.

Nevertheless, since Valdez is the favorite so most likely he will have to score that knockout or stoppage in this fight. Not sure though if Navarette is known to bled very easy as if this is the case, then maybe the referee will have to look closely and stop it before 10 rounds. So best of luck to us.

Here's the video of their face-off, you can see that they are being back up by no less than Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4EilByol2w

So everyone is expecting that this is going to be as exciting as the fight of those 2 Mexican boxers. Although I don't see Navarette having a good defense as compare to Barrera and Morales who are two technical boxers that why there style is really great and they produces one of the best trilogy in the history of boxing.

It's high anticipated fight as we have said, and that's why they have the great Mexican legends to boost the promotion of this fight.

But if this ends on a knockout, then I highly doubt that there could be a rematch or even a trilogy, like what MAB and Morales did on their rivalries. And the odds still favors Valdez as he is the skilled one in this fight as Navarette defense is his offense. Although we will see if he can cover it with hit relentless attack and volume punching.

Wow! I just noticed that there is a specific thread for this bout. This one is a fight-of-the-year match-up, no wonder some people are calling them to deliver a fight like what Barrera-Morales and Vasquez-Marquez did in the past.

I agree with the odds favoring Oscar Valdez as he is already accustomed to this division while Navarette is only making his second appearance. Navarette also showed that he is already beatable unlike when he was campaigning at 122 and 126. Valdez is also the more technical fighter so this may look like Valdez vs Berchelt.

But I am voting based on who I'd like to win. ;D I got Navarette stopping Valdez. I believe we haven't seen yet what this new champion can do in this division. He had a bad night in his last fight so he will enter this fight better. I believe he is the stronger guy so he will be the aggressor here. And I'm pretty sure they already know what happened to Miguel Berchelt against Valdez so Navarette will be a little smart with his aggression here and will finally catch Valdez in the mid to late rounds.

Wow, i like your prediction brother, opposite to what i have in my mind. I have Valdez to win by knockout here because no matter what Navarette will do to avoid those bombs, somewhere in the late rounds he will be tired and Valdez will hit him hard and KOed him but i like what you said that Navarette will be a little smarter here to avoid the fate that Berchelt have suffered but i don't think Navarette could hide the full twelve rounds or it may be the other way around, let's see.  ;D

It's good that the predictions are very well divided, based on the current result of the poll.


Navarette is leading by 1 vote. I want to focus on the discussion about the potential knockout (KO) outcome, as both fighters are prepared to deliver an entertaining fight. Either Navarette or Valdez could be knocked out; we never know as they are evenly matched in my opinion. Although it's evident that Valdez is the favorite in the betting odds, these two are warriors in the ring, making it difficult to predict.

Here is the official weigh-in:

Valdez - 129.b lbs
Navarette - 130.1 lbs

https://img.youtube.com/vi/nsvVyiWXdcc/0.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsvVyiWXdcc)

So everything is set for this great war now. So get your bets ready and see who is going to win in this big fight. I'm not sure if everyone is hype, but this is going to be all out war and we might see a knockout win here. Good luck to everyone.

edit: Navarette has to strip and weigh in at 130 lbs.

This is sure an all out war as both boxers are aggressive and has a high KO rate. Valdez who losses in his previous fight might change his style a bit but I'm still expecting to see his aggressiveness in the fight.

Lots of markets available at this site.

https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/41651269-Navarrete-Emanuel-vs-Valdez-Oscar

Good luck fellow gamblers, choose wisely and always take risk on higher odds to have more fun.  :)

Yeah, I was just checking the odds as well, however, I'm looking for like the round range but it seems that it is not present yet. The odds for the exact round is higher, but very hard to predict which round is Valdez going to win by KO against Navarette.

On the other hand, I'm also torn in betting as I see that the workrate of Emmanuel might be too much for Valdez to handle. I mean we all know how much volume he throws every fight and so he might be lucky and hit Oscar a couple of times so it's possible that he can also win by decision.

I just checked the link shared by @Yamifoud, and I found the round range odds already. I think you might need to take another look; maybe you didn't explore thoroughly. I believe the displayed odds encompass all the odds available for this fight, just like in other sportsbooks.

Yes, it's available already, and based on our experience, a day or two before the actual fights, sports bookies are going to list everything, including the range round that maybe most of us are looking because the odds are still that attractive.

What concerns me though is that Navarette comes above the limit of 130 lbs, just shy of 1 pound though, and he has to be strip naked. However, we all know that when boxers come in a weight in with extra poundage, regardless if it is 1 pound or higher, it just shows that he could have been overweight or having a hard time in the cutting room.

We're lucky to have a live feed for the fight I hope it will not be taken down the feed comes from the official TOPRANK page

The main event will start in a few minutes.

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1 minute remaining before the fight starts. Somehow I caught the betting line.

Navarrete, Emanuel versus Valdez, Oscar - Winner - Valdez, Oscar @1.43

Just going for the favorite and also I think Oscar Valdez is the better boxer. The Olympic amateur background of Valdez will help a lot to win this match. Although, I am curious about what camp Valdez's strategy is against the volume puncher Navarrete. Because if they cannot stop that, they might lose this one in a split decision. I wish they are ready for it.
We will see it in a few minutes.

Navarette did what he has been doing throwing a lot of punches pouring everything to win via unanimous 116 - 112 118 -110, 1119 -109  this is probably the best fight so far among the Mexicans, the fight is very exciting from start to finish but Navarette shows the heart scoring over 1000 punches against Valdez just over 400.
Valdez face is all mess up because of the too many punches landed by Navarette, the two fighters perform what they've promise to all audiences.

Yes, it was just one sided beating here, I have my score 118-110 for Navarette. I thought that Valdez will show more in the latter rounds. But the sheer volume of punches + the length of Navarette is too much for Valdez to overcome as he can't get inside and he will be tag 1,2,3, if he tries to come inside.

Congrats to those who have Navarette on their bet even at ML, it already juicy.

Navarette really looks prepared for this fight, that 1000 punches could be near records for a fight at 130 lbs. Oscar is too small against him and can't get to the spot wherein he can execute his left hook.

Not sure how long Navarette though can stay at this weight class. If he goes up at 135 lbs, that's where the real danger are for him as there are a lot of good boxers even as tall as him that can give him problems even if he throws that kind of numbers in their fight.

Navarette knows how to use his long reach to his advantage he is one of the few boxer that can pour that big number of punches I guess Valdez was overwhelmed by that barrage of punches once he threw the right jab he follows it up with a left straight and uppercut causing Valdez to lose his composure, and Navarette jus eats up Valdez punches it has no impact on hos chin and head.
I agree with the decision, Navarette earn points in the early rounds and is the one controlling the championship rounds its not even too close, I don't think this fight deserve a rematch its clear for us who is the better fighter between the two.

Yeah, as Baofeng have said, Valdez couldn't cut the distance and Navarette wisely uses his advantage and that awkward combination that made Valdez too busy defending those thus making the fight one-sided and boring to watch for those non-hardcore boxing fans. 

Congrats @inthelongrun if you have betted for your guy, damn, I should have followed your lead hehe.

And it looks like Valdez doesn't have the power to knockout anyone at 135 lbs. He hit Navarette clean in the early rounds if I'm not mistaken, but it didn't put a dent on Navarette. But instead he keeps coming for more after that left hook and then he score his own left hook as well.

For me Valdez doesn't have it anymore. It seems that Shakur really took out his soul. It was a different Oscar after that, although he won his comeback fight to set up this clash with his fellow Mexican, he wasn't the same anymore.

Yes, as what we said, he doesn't play that much defense because his chin can take up punches although Liam caught him in their last fight, but we was able to survived and win. But in here, Valdez punches doesn't have any effect on his chin and he is just eating that and then he throws some as well.


Yeah, no controversy whatsoever, it seems though the argument is that how many round did Oscar Valdez win because in one judges he only won 2 rounds. But for me it's fair, it's just right about Oscar winning 2-3 rounds out of the 12 as Navarette was in total control of the fight in the early rounds and then also took control of the championship rounds.

Many of us here were mistaken in our predictions. Valdez appeared significantly smaller against Navarette, and his movement seemed predictable. Navarette managed to evade Valdez's powerful shots and counter with heavy punches. During the announcement of the winner, Navarette's face remained relatively fresh, whereas Valdez's face bore visible damage. Therefore, the judges decision appears to be accurate; Valdez wasn't yet prepared for this division.

You're correct, as many of us assume that bookies have insight into the likely winner before a fight. In this case, despite Navarette being the defending champion, Valdez was actually listed as the favorite to win. This typical expectation was overturned in the actual fight.

Now, Valdez has experienced two consecutive losses in championship fights. The question arises: what lies ahead for him?

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Congratulations to the bettors who guess it right, the odds was 4.20 for Navarette  to win by decision.

The scorecard did not reflect the excitement of the fight, watching the fight from start to end I'm convinced that Navarette won the match proves why he is called a volume puncher, Navarette throws over 1000 punches not even half of what Valdez has thrown, Valdez's face is badly swollen compared to Navarette who just take every power punch Valdez thrown.
Navarette should eye Shakur for a much bigger paycheck and legacy fight, I'm sure it will attract a lot of attention for these two fighters decide to square inside the ring.

And it didn't live to the hype of a Mexican war as it was just a one sided beating. The length of Navarette really causes a big problem on Valdez and he wasn't able to solved that. Although he had his moments, but the chin of Navarette is well tested that even Oscar best shot has no effect to Navarette.

And with that win, there's no more challenges for Navarette to stay at 130 lbs. Unless Shakur is willing to go down to 130 lbs again. But he has been eyeing 135 lbs and a fight with Haney or even Loma. So I don't think that it's going to be wise decision for Shakur to fight Navarette. Unless Navarette is willing to go up to 135 lbs because it seems that he can do it.

Emanuel Navarrete was very comfortable in this fight, he didn't seem to be pressured, it was as if he wasn't fighting and was doing a training, until the 7th round and his opponent Oscar Valdez already had his face hurt, it was like If Oscar Valdez's face was an easy target for Oscar Valdez, I didn't watch the fight live, but I watched the fight afterwards, and I was wondering how Oscar Valdez had such a bruised face while Emanuel Navarrete looked so well, it gave me the impression that the guy had started to fight and hadn't taken any blows yet and it was visible to me that Oscar Valdez was making an effort to win the fight, but his efforts were not producing the desired result

in my opinion Oscar Valdez's mistake is that he got too close to Emanuel Navarrete and when he threw a punch he then ducked to dodge Emanuel Navarrete's counterattack, but Emanuel Navarrete has a left punch that landed on Oscar Valdez and this was repeated many times during the fight

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and at the end of the fight it was very visible the damage that Oscar Valdez had during the fight and on the other side it was visible that Emanuel Navarrete didn't have any damage on his face, it was as if Emanuel Navarrete hadn't fought. this shows how big the difference between the fighters was during the fight. I hope that Oscar Valdez's team keeps reviewing the video of this fight so that they instruct Oscar Valdez not to comment on the same mistakes he made in this fight, something that I could also see and maybe I could be wrong, and that it seemed to me that the punches of Oscar Valdez were less effective, were punches without much power for the blows he managed to land on Emanuel Navarrete, it was supposed to see at least Emanuel Navarrete with a little bruised face, something I didn't see

He needs to get closer to Navarette because he is the smaller guy. But when he tries and be the aggressor early, Oscar Valdez is being tag and he is like a sitting duck there waiting to be hit. And I was surprised that the corner of Valdez, the game trainer Eddy Reynoso doesn't have a plan B.

It seems that their plan is to really go out and trying to out punch and taller and has the reach advantage and thinks that they can wear him down. Navarette is much smarter that we think now. We thought that he was just a brawler. But in this fight he switches stand that confused Valdez and has a chin to hold against Valdez left hook.

As been expected the fight will be exciting and both will survive because they're Mexican, congratulations for Navarette and nice try for Valdez. I think Valdez's boxing career is already near to end as he can't win against a champion, he only fight for 1-2 in a year. Valdez has a stamina, but he's just not good enough and he's already quite old, he will improving too much even he will train more harder.

While it's reasonable to acknowledge that he's currently facing challenges in his career, it wouldn't be accurate to label him as 'old' just yet. At 32 years old, he still has plenty of fighting years ahead. Perhaps taking a step back to reflect on his recent losses and evaluate his mistakes could be beneficial. Consider the case of Anthony Joshua and other boxers who have faced defeats after being champions. They've managed to rebound and continue fighting, even earning big opportunities after their setbacks.

Personally, I firmly believe that Oscar Valdez won't give up. He'll undoubtedly put in the hard work, focus on areas that need improvement, and come back stronger than ever.

I agree with you mate, seems that he is due for retirement already. He got Naverette in the chin a few times but somehow it didn't bother the latter so that means his power is fading already and like you said, he can't win in a championship fight so better for him to retire. I don't know if there is a rematch clause on this one and if indeed there is, better if Valdez won't exercise it.

I doubt Valdez will retire right away. He just lost to the better man. Valdez landed huge power shots at Navarette that are capable of knocking out any guys in the division. It's just that Navarette is not only heavy-handed but has a very tough chin and a thick skin as I can't find any cut or bruise in his face.

I'd still favor Valdez to win over WBA champion Hector Luis Garcia and IBF champion Joe Cordina. Maybe it's 50/50 against the WBC champion O'Shaquie Foster. So there are still a lot of good fights left for Valdez before retiring. As for Navarette, he wants to unify his belt and there are also some rumors about a potential match-up against Shakur Stevenson who's already campaigning 1 division north.

I would love to see unification fights for this division to have an undisputed champion. I believe Navarrette would be the favorite now but the other networks are the main hurdle if they allow their underdogs to fight someone from a rival network with a huge potential of losing.

Yep, I do agree, it's easy to conclude that at this point of his career, he should retire, although he really took a lot in his last fight with Navarette. But his first lost was really devastating against Shakur as it looks like he took Valdez soul that night. And it could be his best change to redeem himself and win another belt against Navarrete.

And with that I also agree that he can beat Joe Cordina and Luis Garcia. But it might be different against a slick fighter in Foster.

But let's see, hopefully he won't consider retiring. Might be needing just a tune up fight again before chasing for belts again.

It's premature to speculate about retirement. The last two boxers who defeated him are both great fighters, so he should view these experiences as valuable learning opportunities. At the age of 32, there are still numerous fights ahead for him, providing ample chances to regain his reputation. Eventually, he might find a weight division that suits him well and could potentially dominate before retiring.

The two boxers who bested him, Emanuel Navarrete and Shakur Stevenson, are both champions, making the defeats understandable. What I appreciate about Valdez is his willingness to take on the best opponents. While some undefeated boxers choose to maintain their records by selecting easier opponents, Valdez isn't afraid to face tough challenges, which makes him more exciting to watch.