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Title: look, look, what's this
Post by: Firlis on July 09, 2023, 01:10:31 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: zsu123 on July 09, 2023, 01:22:08 AM
Such a digital currency already exists, so what?  Can you invest in it?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Firlis on July 09, 2023, 02:17:18 AM
Such a digital currency already exists, so what?  Can you invest in it?

There is no digital currency that can be traded offline in the true sense. If such a digital currency appears, I personally think it can be invested!  What do you think?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: yhiaali3 on July 09, 2023, 02:35:24 AM
How can digital currencies be traded offline? Can you explain the idea?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Firlis on July 09, 2023, 03:10:39 AM
How can digital currencies be traded offline? Can you explain the idea?

It is an offline transaction, using a new algorithm, using Bluetooth transactions, so that the digital currency usage scenario returns to the essence of currency!


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: vv181 on July 09, 2023, 03:21:18 AM
Digital currency and offline transaction mechanisms are mutually exclusive conditions.

If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies!

If that is so great, there should be an existing one already!

How can digital currencies be traded offline? Can you explain the idea?

It is an offline transaction, using a new algorithm, using Bluetooth transactions, so that the digital currency usage scenario returns to the essence of currency!

I think you misunderstood something. It is expected in some cases, the internet connection is hardly functioning to utilise digital currency, but an offline method of transaction, like using Bluetooth or NFC eventually still requires internet access.

We can not send and verify the transaction itself without any internet connection, so we can make sure the whole transaction process goes thorough. It is just inherently not how digital currency essentially works.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Bitstar_coin on July 09, 2023, 03:25:20 AM
So which one is it, are you telling or asking because even the title kinda different from the content.
I haven't seen any digital currency traded offline and I always wonder how that will be possible.


It is an offline transaction, using a new algorithm, using Bluetooth transactions, so that the digital currency usage scenario returns to the essence of currency!
This sound interesting as Bluetooth does not require to be online to operate so someone can literally do transactions even in the most remote areas. Perhaps this is going to be the new focus in crypto. If crypto is about inclusion and supporting the unbanked, this seem like the best idea.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Firlis on July 09, 2023, 03:44:01 AM
So which one is it, are you telling or asking because even the title kinda different from the content.
I haven't seen any digital currency traded offline and I always wonder how that will be possible.


It is an offline transaction, using a new algorithm, using Bluetooth transactions, so that the digital currency usage scenario returns to the essence of currency!
This sound interesting as Bluetooth does not require to be online to operate so someone can literally do transactions even in the most remote areas. Perhaps this is going to be the new focus in crypto. If crypto is about inclusion and supporting the unbanked, this seem like the best idea.

The encryption algorithm has been updated. I also saw it from reddit. It seems that it will be launched soon!


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: ming789 on July 09, 2023, 06:12:36 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

Thousands of digital currencies already, the kind of digital currency you said in large-scale application scenarios ?How can it be?First of all, how to ensure security?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: USMKAI4 on July 09, 2023, 07:18:25 AM
Digital currency and offline transaction mechanisms are mutually exclusive conditions.

If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies!

If that is so great, there should be an existing one already!

How can digital currencies be traded offline? Can you explain the idea?

It is an offline transaction, using a new algorithm, using Bluetooth transactions, so that the digital currency usage scenario returns to the essence of currency!

I think you misunderstood something. It is expected in some cases, the internet connection is hardly functioning to utilise digital currency, but an offline method of transaction, like using Bluetooth or NFC eventually still requires internet access.

We can not send and verify the transaction itself without any internet connection, so we can make sure the whole transaction process goes thorough. It is just inherently not how digital currency essentially works.

It seems that a team used a completely different algorithm than before, combining the encryption process with localization, and it is still random number calculation.  Anyway, it's quite complicated!


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: USMKAI4 on July 09, 2023, 07:56:01 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

Thousands of digital currencies already, the kind of digital currency you said in large-scale application scenarios ?How can it be?First of all, how to ensure security?


I saw on reddit that not only offline transactions can be realized, but also pseudo-anonymous transactions, related to some decentralized platforms, and some projects will also be done!


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Wiwo on July 09, 2023, 07:59:07 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Tried so much to understand what you are saying but couldn't but all the same for clarity's sake,  you have to know that cryptocurrency can not be traded offline and at that you may have been wrong in that statement.

I advise you to make your way around rearranging your words and sentence as to make an understandable statement that can trigger a discussion regarding the topic.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Firlis on July 09, 2023, 09:06:38 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Tried so much to understand what you are saying but couldn't but all the same for clarity's sake,  you have to know that cryptocurrency can not be traded offline and at that you may have been wrong in that statement.

I advise you to make your way around rearranging your words and sentence as to make an understandable statement that can trigger a discussion regarding the topic.


According to the original cryptocurrency theory, the structure of chains and blocks really cannot be offline.  But this is a brand new technology.  It is not only encrypted, but also offline!


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: @sriyan on July 09, 2023, 11:00:35 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Let's assume we need to send Bitcoin to the moon. Can we use the satellite as the nodes? In this case, you need some connection between the satellite. otherwise, how do we verify the transactions? So you need the internet or some other communication mechanism to work correctly.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: windelves9 on July 09, 2023, 11:22:57 AM
我认为如果真的能实现,我愿意尝试,毕竟安全性是我最重视的。


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Kelvinid on July 09, 2023, 12:25:36 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
What I think is that - it never happens. The absence of the internet seems to be the worse thing happening in crypto as we rely on it.
In fact, it was been created because we are in the internet era which means that everything we do when involved in crypto trade comes with the use of the internet if not like you have said "Bluetooth" transactions, I don't think it really works. Does anyone work on this? Well, nothing because it was impossible IMO.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: rat4 on July 09, 2023, 12:40:25 PM
A transaction can happen offline of a receiver trusts a sender, but in the general case the double spend problem has to be solved.

Perhaps what you mean is a mesh network on top of bluetooth/wi-fi?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Kelvinid on July 09, 2023, 12:40:37 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
What I think is that - it never happens. The absence of the internet seems to be the worse thing happening in crypto as we rely on it.
In fact, it was been created because we are in the internet era which means that everything we do when involved in crypto trade comes with the use of the internet if not like you have said "Bluetooth" transactions, I don't think it really works. Does anyone work on this? Well, nothing because it was impossible IMO.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: raidarksword on July 09, 2023, 12:58:45 PM
Crypto can be traded offline? that's new! I am just know crypto can be traded online thru platform or dexes but offline? It might sound impossible because every thing buy and sell orders can be only available online for users can interact with. Maybe you should provide more information so that everyone can think or give more feedback towards it.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: ming789 on July 09, 2023, 01:00:32 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
What I think is that - it never happens. The absence of the internet seems to be the worse thing happening in crypto as we rely on it.
In fact, it was been created because we are in the internet era which means that everything we do when involved in crypto trade comes with the use of the internet if not like you have said "Bluetooth" transactions, I don't think it really works. Does anyone work on this? Well, nothing because it was impossible IMO.
It really shocked me,offline?How it can?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: raidarksword on July 09, 2023, 01:01:02 PM
Crypto can be traded offline? that's new! I am just know crypto can be traded online thru platform or dexes but offline? It might sound impossible because every thing buy and sell orders can be only available online for users can interact with. Maybe you should provide more information so that everyone can think or give more feedback towards it.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: raidarksword on July 09, 2023, 01:06:06 PM
Crypto can be traded offline? that's new! I am just know crypto can be traded online thru platform or dexes but offline? It might sound impossible because every thing buy and sell orders can be only available online for users can interact with. Maybe you should provide more information so that everyone can think or give more feedback towards it.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: raidarksword on July 09, 2023, 01:08:18 PM
Crypto can be traded offline? that's new! I am just know crypto can be traded online thru platform or dexes but offline? It might sound impossible because every thing buy and sell orders can be only available online for users can interact with. Maybe you should provide more information so that everyone can think or give more feedback towards it.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Xal0lex on July 09, 2023, 01:30:51 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

You can trade by phone number, just like you did before the Internet. You call your broker, find out the price of the asset, and tell him you want to buy this coin in the amount of $10,000. He buys that asset for you. This kind of trading is extremely primitive, and given how wild the cryptocurrency market is, you are more likely to get scammed and run into a scammer.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: killerfrost on July 09, 2023, 02:00:04 PM
How can digital currencies be traded offline? Can you explain the idea?

It is an offline transaction, using a new algorithm, using Bluetooth transactions, so that the digital currency usage scenario returns to the essence of currency!
And is it necessary in the current context, I think you are a little bit confused about the extent of this problem, if a product is created like that, then the association with this market or the existence of a monopoly its establishment. Try asking who will use it? I'm sure no one will be too bothered because the current usage is still the internet, and we don't seem to force ourselves outside the general environment to talk about the unlikely problem, as the saying goes. story if the internet goes down, I watched some sci-fi movies when the earth lost power or stopped using the internet because of some disaster but looking back then we were still concerned with financial transactions .


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: jossiel on July 09, 2023, 02:13:26 PM
Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
That's possible in the future or if there's already one that's existing, I don't know. I think with radio waves, bluetooth and other type of connection that don't require internet connection, it's going to be possible with some wallets.

But for now, we're in need of internet to have that type of transactions in cryptocurrencies. It's an interesting project if there's one, AFAIK with Bitcoin there has been something like this that I've read before.

Although I have no idea what happened to it right now.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: bastian466 on July 09, 2023, 02:17:28 PM
Difficult to implement, because those related to digital trading cannot work if there is no internet network, if there is none, transactions cannot be made. maybe what needs to be fixed is the internet network in all areas so that there are no more complaints of weak or missing network problems. I'm sure the network providers continue to try to make the service comfortable to use and there is an increase in quality


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: raidarksword on July 09, 2023, 03:13:26 PM
Crypto can be traded offline? that's new! I am just know crypto can be traded online thru platform or dexes but offline? It might sound impossible because every thing buy and sell orders can be only available online for users can interact with. Maybe you should provide more information so that everyone can think or give more feedback towards it.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: abel1337 on July 09, 2023, 03:34:47 PM
I don't know if there are currently existing cryptocurrency that can be used offline. It is a long time problem that is waiting to be solved bt someone. I' positive that there will be a lot of problem that the future creator will experiencr but I believe that it can revolutionize crypto by implementing it on current useful crypto. I read the conversation above about the reddit post they are talking about. Would you mind sharing it here?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: D ltr on July 09, 2023, 03:40:19 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?


one thing is impossible if this happens as we know crypto can only be done online, not offline, even when a project holds an offline event they can only make transactions online, not offline


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: kunliziran on July 09, 2023, 05:08:55 PM
I don't know if there are currently existing cryptocurrency that can be used offline. It is a long time problem that is waiting to be solved bt someone. I' positive that there will be a lot of problem that the future creator will experiencr but I believe that it can revolutionize crypto by implementing it on current useful crypto. I read the conversation above about the reddit post they are talking about. Would you mind sharing it here?

This is no wonder. There will always be new technologies. Just as life in the universe is not limited to humans, offline transactions in digital money wallets will be the new darling of the coin circle


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Jocuserious on July 09, 2023, 06:27:06 PM
How you can trade digital currency by offline? Where we can got explain about it! Trade it just to do online so there is no option for offline. Every investors want buy sell properly so how they can manage this system for offline. Anyway maybe It's your fault even go ahead to take current informed about it.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: mdzahed134 on July 09, 2023, 07:11:38 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Wow! It will be very interesting if it’s really possible in the near future, i don’t about such concept still now. If you describe it how it will work. Without internet connection how a transaction will confirmed? Even i think it will be very difficult, because in trading a lot of things which are never possible by internet.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: kunliwenxin on July 10, 2023, 12:19:15 AM
You said that you can do dual offline transactions without the network. The problem is that my mobile phone was accidentally crushed, and the Digital renminbi in it could not be found?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Firlis on July 10, 2023, 01:48:49 AM
I can't understand it either.  Anyway, the technology is different, the value is stable, and a financial system has also been built.  It is a stable currency for ordinary people.  For financial system participants, it is an opportunity for continuous profit.  they haven't fully released


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: CapGelatik on July 10, 2023, 02:06:51 AM
How you can trade digital currency by offline? Where we can got explain about it! Trade it just to do online so there is no option for offline. Every investors want buy sell properly so how they can manage this system for offline. Anyway maybe It's your fault even go ahead to take current informed about it.
I think it is indeed impossible to trade cryptocurrency offline,
to be able to trade it requires an internet connection,
without an internet connection the transaction will definitely fail and to be honest I don't understand how the system will work without the internet.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Kimonoe on July 10, 2023, 02:26:34 AM
I have never found out how cryptocurrency trading happens offline, indeed in some areas the problem is the signal network, like in my country, because of its large geographical location and many remote areas, many areas do not yet have an internet network. However, there is a story that not everyone in remote areas is technologically backward, because there are gentlemen who have a number of bitcoins until they become rich, when they want to make transactions they go to the city and then return to the village, until a few years later they have a lot of money from their investment.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: echo685 on July 10, 2023, 03:15:33 AM
How can digital currencies be traded offline? Can you explain the idea?

It is an offline transaction, using a new algorithm, using Bluetooth transactions, so that the digital currency usage scenario returns to the essence of currency!

如果没有蓝牙怎么操作呢,是不是类似于离线钱包那种?不需要链接网络,那么怎样保证安全性呢?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: USMKAI4 on July 10, 2023, 08:30:45 AM
We are all looking forward to the birth of digital currency for offline transactions. I will continue to pay attention to the updates of the reddit forum, and some people have released some content!


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: raidarksword on July 10, 2023, 08:41:20 AM
Crypto can be traded offline? that's new! I am just know crypto can be traded online thru platform or dexes but offline? It might sound impossible because every thing buy and sell orders can be only available online for users can interact with. Maybe you should provide more information so that everyone can think or give more feedback towards it.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Firlis on July 10, 2023, 01:33:00 PM
Crypto can be traded offline? that's new! I am just know crypto can be traded online thru platform or dexes but offline? It might sound impossible because every thing buy and sell orders can be only available online for users can interact with. Maybe you should provide more information so that everyone can think or give more feedback towards it.

I am also continuing to follow up, and new news will be sent out!


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Apocollapse on July 10, 2023, 02:44:44 PM
We're already live in 21th century, do you want us to go back to 20th century?

Right now technology is always developing and almost all countries already have internet connection. People in this generation can't live without a cellphone and internet connection, this mean both of these things become a primary human needs.

Inventing a cryptocurrency which can work via offline isn't important, sooner or later the poor or old country will start adopting internet connection.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: justdimin on July 10, 2023, 03:26:06 PM
Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Tried so much to understand what you are saying but couldn't but all the same for clarity's sake,  you have to know that cryptocurrency can not be traded offline and at that you may have been wrong in that statement.

I advise you to make your way around rearranging your words and sentence as to make an understandable statement that can trigger a discussion regarding the topic.
Maybe you are just slow to comprehend things mate? I don't think what he was saying there is hard to understand. He didn't mean that there are cryptos which works offline but he only wish that one can be invented because the internet on their place is unstable.

I think there is an innovation before where they can trade a crypto offline. It's like a lan to lan only. Meaning you can't be far when initiating a trade. Another concept would be is to create physical versions of crypto. So far there's already a few fan-made versions of it but they are rarely being traded because they are crafted with love and there might only be limited pieces of them.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Xal0lex on July 10, 2023, 04:47:31 PM
I think there is an innovation before where they can trade a crypto offline. It's like a lan to lan only. Meaning you can't be far when initiating a trade. Another concept would be is to create physical versions of crypto. So far there's already a few fan-made versions of it but they are rarely being traded because they are crafted with love and there might only be limited pieces of them.

Is offline cryptocurrency trading supported anywhere now? I have heard about various possibilities to pay, buy, sell, exchange bitcoin via cellular communication or other means of data transmission, for example, via radio. Although radio is still not a common way of transferring values and it is not widespread. It would be interesting to familiarize yourself with such services that allow you to trade bitcoin without the internet.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on July 10, 2023, 05:11:31 PM
Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

Internet is a must these days. You have been talking about signal which doesn't even make sense this day. Are you going back again to the 2000's?

The currencies can't be traded offline. Crypto needs internet to broadcast its tx hash to be verified by the miners or validator. What you have been taking was impossible to happen.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: gurunanakji777 on July 10, 2023, 05:30:11 PM
I don't think it's practically possible to engage in offline trading, even if we consider the concept. How would we determine the real-time trade price? We are aware of the highly volatile nature of cryptocurrencies, so offline trading is not possible. If someone claims otherwise, it's likely a small project with only a limited number of people aware of it, and it probably lacks significant trading volume. Even if there is such a scenario, it might be possible to trade stable currencies offline in the future, but honestly speaking, I don't know how that could be achieved. Currently, it seems impossible.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: southerngentuk on July 10, 2023, 05:42:04 PM
Really trying to understand what you are talking about. Perhaps using digital currency for offline transactions is really an interesting idea. There are several aspects to consider when implementing mass adoption of such a digital currency. One of the important things is to ensure the safety and security of your transactions, especially if you don't have a stable internet connection. Therefore, deploying large-scale applications in this situation requires careful security measures and technology development to ensure security and efficiency.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: ahoenk on July 10, 2023, 08:15:45 PM
It existed already, if you are here years ago, many people traded bitcoin casascius offline. It is not somethink new. Look like comment above me is new commer who dont know how bitcoin and other crypto currencies worked. You can trade bitcoin offline dude.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Questat on July 10, 2023, 08:45:48 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Although we want this thing to happen so those people who have no internet connection in their place still have time to trade. Unfortunately, no application exists for this, it means that the internet is the lifeblood of all crypto transactions (just for now) and it all needs it to proceed the transactions. Maybe it can be changed in the future. However, I don't think about it this time because that was still impossible to run trading offline. Well, you can make a deal with your friend and do complete the transaction once there is an internet.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Psynthax on July 10, 2023, 11:17:53 PM
We're already live in 21th century, do you want us to go back to 20th century?

Right now technology is always developing and almost all countries already have internet connection. People in this generation can't live without a cellphone and internet connection, this mean both of these things become a primary human needs.

Inventing a cryptocurrency which can work via offline isn't important, sooner or later the poor or old country will start adopting internet connection.
thats true, its just matter of time until satellite internet are growing then it would cover the entire planets, I think this effort as some kind of futile to make things available offline after all eventually everyone would have internet connection.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: pplnd@ on July 11, 2023, 03:59:05 AM
Such a digital currency already exists, so what?  Can you invest in it?

There is no digital currency that can be traded offline in the true sense. If such a digital currency appears, I personally think it can be invested!  What do you think?
Is this fantasy?  Or did you find something?  Can you describe it in more detail?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Sebas.tian on July 11, 2023, 04:27:17 AM
Quote from: Firlis

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

Once you discovered that the network is not good for you to carry out your digital currency at the moment, you can exercise patience to allow the network to appear before you can continue your crypto trading, because there is no way your crypto trading will be successful offline. Don't allow anybody to deceive you, that you can trade crypto offline because it will be difficult for you to monitor the transaction process at the moment which is very easy for any traders to lose their income to scammers. When there is a steady network in your environment, very easy for you to see very well the way the transaction is going in the market, and it will make you comfortable with the kind of customers you are transacting with at the moment.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Xampeuu on July 11, 2023, 05:31:40 AM
Quote from: Firlis

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

Once you discovered that the network is not good for you to carry out your digital currency at the moment, you can exercise patience to allow the network to appear before you can continue your crypto trading, because there is no way your crypto trading will be successful offline. Don't allow anybody to deceive you, that you can trade crypto offline because it will be difficult for you to monitor the transaction process at the moment which is very easy for any traders to lose their income to scammers. When there is a steady network in your environment, very easy for you to see very well the way the transaction is going in the market, and it will make you comfortable with the kind of customers you are transacting with at the moment.
right, don't allow anyone to direct offline transactions on cryptocurrency, at least look for a stable network to make transactions, because that's the requirement to make transactions on cryptocurrency. of course this depends on the facilities of each region, if we are in a remote area, then go to the nearest city and usually the network will be better, after you make an investment transaction, then after that let it stay in your wallet, until you want to resell it, and then come back to the city


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: fuxid@ on July 11, 2023, 07:52:17 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
You can't find this kind of currency here, you might as well try it if you read tired news while browsing reddit


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: kunliziran on July 11, 2023, 12:51:26 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Although we want this thing to happen so those people who have no internet connection in their place still have time to trade. Unfortunately, no application exists for this, it means that the internet is the lifeblood of all crypto transactions (just for now) and it all needs it to proceed the transactions. Maybe it can be changed in the future. However, I don't think about it this time because that was still impossible to run trading offline. Well, you can make a deal with your friend and do complete the transaction once there is an internet.
Maybe you haven't experienced the effects of natural disasters. When the communication network is down, when we have no money in hand, how important it is to buy daily food. Recent US dollars of all ages are in use. It is impossible to tell the true from the false. The security of paper money is more worrying.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Firlis on July 11, 2023, 01:39:17 PM
Technology is advancing, human beings are developing, and everything is possible.  We should dream and make the impossible possible.  When the material desires are full, the so-called spiritual desires are lacking, the pursuit and innovation become less intense, and the thinking is stagnant and stagnant, making many things impossible!


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Mpamaegbu on July 11, 2023, 01:59:23 PM
~snipped~.
The encryption algorithm has been updated. I also saw it from reddit. It seems that it will be launched soon!
People should be very careful putting their hard earned money on projects like that with seemingly unrealistic blueprint. We often see all sorts of projects spring up during bull rally like we're witnessing now, going forward into 2024 because of Bitcoin halving. Most of these projects are only good on papers without any real usecase in real world. I got decieved by similar idealistic but not realistic projects in my noob days. They promised all manners of eldorado they couldn't match up to and that was how investors funds went down the drain.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: sarmrakib on July 11, 2023, 02:29:43 PM
Such a digital currency already exists, so what?  Can you invest in it?

There is no digital currency that can be traded offline in the true sense. If such a digital currency appears, I personally think it can be invested!  What do you think?
I don’t think why you wanna invest on offline project .I think its not possible to run such a project .Without having internet connection there will be no project csn run .I don’t have seen any project yet like you were talking about .If we find anything like that on offline we need research before we invest on it .Practically its not possible without running on online project .So we need keep eye on active ,legit and longlong-term project .


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: lixer on July 11, 2023, 03:58:34 PM
Tried so much to understand what you are saying but couldn't but all the same for clarity's sake,  you have to know that cryptocurrency can not be traded offline and at that you may have been wrong in that statement.

I advise you to make your way around rearranging your words and sentence as to make an understandable statement that can trigger a discussion regarding the topic.
According to the original cryptocurrency theory, the structure of chains and blocks really cannot be offline.  But this is a brand new technology.  It is not only encrypted, but also offline!
Generally, things that operate offline are less vulnerable to attacks and exploits but I wonder how can transactions and stuff be recorded in real-time if everything is done offline, and how will the chain updates itself with the recent data if everything is offline, and how can people see transactions happening if they are not being uploaded into a server or something? There are a lot of things that need to be considered and answered.

If whatever you are saying is true and there is a technology being created like this, I'm pretty excited to learn more about it and understand how it actually works because I've never thought that it can be possible for a digital currency to work totally offline without the need of the internet.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: nick_2017 on July 11, 2023, 04:00:13 PM
Cryptocurrency transactions are verified and recorded on the blockchain. They need to be confirmed by multiple nodes in the network to ensure permanent recording. As a result, transactions cannot be carried out autonomously on a device (except in the case, perhaps, when it is connected to a node that is part of the network).

However, cryptocurrencies can be stored offline using a wallet or keys.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: fuxid@ on July 12, 2023, 05:26:19 AM
~snipped~.
The encryption algorithm has been updated. I also saw it from reddit. It seems that it will be launched soon!
People should be very careful putting their hard earned money on projects like that with seemingly unrealistic blueprint. We often see all sorts of projects spring up during bull rally like we're witnessing now, going forward into 2024 because of Bitcoin halving. Most of these projects are only good on papers without any real usecase in real world. I got decieved by similar idealistic but not realistic projects in my noob days. They promised all manners of eldorado they couldn't match up to and that was how investors funds went down the drain.

This is a big casino, and there is a shadow of capital behind every popular currency, constantly bringing crazy feelings to gamblers.  Even when it's all lost, new gamblers join in.  Looking forward to the emergence of a currency that can bring a new life to everyone.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Firlis on July 12, 2023, 01:35:43 PM
Tried so much to understand what you are saying but couldn't but all the same for clarity's sake,  you have to know that cryptocurrency can not be traded offline and at that you may have been wrong in that statement.

I advise you to make your way around rearranging your words and sentence as to make an understandable statement that can trigger a discussion regarding the topic.
According to the original cryptocurrency theory, the structure of chains and blocks really cannot be offline.  But this is a brand new technology.  It is not only encrypted, but also offline!
Generally, things that operate offline are less vulnerable to attacks and exploits but I wonder how can transactions and stuff be recorded in real-time if everything is done offline, and how will the chain updates itself with the recent data if everything is offline, and how can people see transactions happening if they are not being uploaded into a server or something? There are a lot of things that need to be considered and answered.

If whatever you are saying is true and there is a technology being created like this, I'm pretty excited to learn more about it and understand how it actually works because I've never thought that it can be possible for a digital currency to work totally offline without the need of the internet.

We all look forward to new technologies that can improve the security of digital currency, and there are practical examples to support the circulation of digital currency, not just the dangerous purpose of speculation!


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: uneng on July 12, 2023, 03:14:27 PM
Honestly, it's easier to spread internet access and range to every corners of the world than introducing an offline cryptocurrency to the public. If people are going to use an offline currency, they will use physical paper money, like they have been doing so far without cryptocurrencies.

One of the purposes of crypto is to allow us to make business with people who are distant from us, on the another side of the world, while avoiding middlemen services such as Paypal and Central Banks which charge abusive taxes on foreigner transactions. And I fear we couldn't execute these same transactions through another technology such as Bluetooth. Internet is an essential tool in our modern life. Instead of replacing it, I think we should be concerned regards evolving it.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Pablogmon on July 12, 2023, 06:19:48 PM
Neon Link promotes a collaborative space with robust tools, support and incentives to create exceptional web3 games. But the most important thing is that very soon they will start public sales. You will regret if you miss it, so highlight July 13 as a red day of the calendar, sales will be very short.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: kunliziran on July 12, 2023, 07:50:57 PM
Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

Internet is a must these days. You have been talking about signal which doesn't even make sense this day. Are you going back again to the 2000's?

The currencies can't be traded offline. Crypto needs internet to broadcast its tx hash to be verified by the miners or validator. What you have been taking was impossible to happen.

Anything is possible. Several sections saw this news. Is this really going to happen? Just like AI has a human mind, believe in miracles! I continue to follow the latest news, and seizing opportunities is what I care more about.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Rengga Jati on July 12, 2023, 09:14:31 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Cryptocurrency is a digital product. And digital products will require an internet connection to transact and implement them. Not only crypto but various other digital products as well. So, if one day at that location there is no internet connection, yes it will indeed hamper our performance in cryptocurrency. I have experienced this several times when I returned home, I was having a hard time getting a stable internet network. So this is very annoying, even very difficult to open exchanges or just social media.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: SelfCustody on July 12, 2023, 09:45:42 PM
Sounds like you are describing something like a local private blockchain.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: rhomelmabini on July 12, 2023, 09:58:09 PM
Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
A diigital currency that is offline? I don't think that will ever happen maybe not these days yet considering a lot that's being built are online and internet is only accessible online. Sure that will be good in the long run as it may reduce consumption and energy but aren't we are innovating most of our technology online now?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: kunliwenxin on July 12, 2023, 11:56:39 PM
I think someone mentioned pseudo anonymity. Can you explain how pseudo anonymity is implemented? If there are any technical patents that are not convenient to disclose, can you explain the advantages of pseudoanonymity? I consider hoarding this new Cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: libert19 on July 13, 2023, 02:08:19 AM
Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

This is exactly the reason why I think fiat (in cash form, to say the least) will keep co-existing with crypto.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Desscount on July 13, 2023, 02:48:53 AM
Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
A diigital currency that is offline? I don't think that will ever happen maybe not these days yet considering a lot that's being built are online and internet is only accessible online. Sure that will be good in the long run as it may reduce consumption and energy but aren't we are innovating most of our technology online now?
That's why I don't think it will happen and it's quite confusing with an offline digital currency system,
I think to run it requires internet,
the development of internet technology is truly extraordinary at this time and of course this will continue too.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: pplnd@ on July 13, 2023, 08:14:18 AM
It is worth looking forward to the emergence of this currency, which will bring new experiences to people's lives


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: yanshen022 on July 14, 2023, 12:08:54 AM
Offline transactions are relatively safe, but it will be inconvenient. When will the new technology you mentioned be realized?  Whether it can achieve continuous attention, I hope you will not be disappointed!


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: fuxid@ on July 14, 2023, 09:38:16 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Tried so much to understand what you are saying but couldn't but all the same for clarity's sake,  you have to know that cryptocurrency can not be traded offline and at that you may have been wrong in that statement.

I advise you to make your way around rearranging your words and sentence as to make an understandable statement that can trigger a discussion regarding the topic.


According to the original cryptocurrency theory, the structure of chains and blocks really cannot be offline.  But this is a brand new technology.  It is not only encrypted, but also offline!
Can you provide more information on this brand new currency?


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: JunkieMiner on July 14, 2023, 10:13:27 AM
I had never seen a currency that can be traded offline throughout my crypto experience. And now I can say that people are going to invest in these type of coins which has a strong background to get the profit. And secondly it is difficult to launch coins that can be traded offline.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: justice123 on July 14, 2023, 11:18:56 AM
I think online transactions are indeed convenient, but as you said, it is not convenient in places with poor networks. At the same time, it is difficult to avoid fraud in transactions, while offline transactions do not affect transactions in places with poor networks, and at the same time deepen the relationship between enterprises and enterprises.  Cooperation between enterprises improves the authenticity of products, the trust of transactions, and the user experience.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: asd1230lz on July 14, 2023, 01:15:48 PM
It feels good. The specific content has observation.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: gunhell16 on July 14, 2023, 01:36:53 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Cryptocurrency is a digital product. And digital products will require an internet connection to transact and implement them. Not only crypto but various other digital products as well. So, if one day at that location there is no internet connection, yes it will indeed hamper our performance in cryptocurrency. I have experienced this several times when I returned home, I was having a hard time getting a stable internet network. So this is very annoying, even very difficult to open exchanges or just social media.

That is just proof that the internet has contributed a lot in this era to us, and it has been adopted by all people around the world. And all goods related to marketing online cannot be without an internet connection.

So here in cryptocurrency, it will be difficult for us to use it as a source of income if there is no internet for sure, so I hope the internet will not disappear until the coming times so that not many people or business industries will be affected.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: blackened515 on July 14, 2023, 04:28:05 PM
A diigital currency that is offline? I don't think that will ever happen maybe not these days yet considering a lot that's being built are online and internet is only accessible online. Sure that will be good in the long run as it may reduce consumption and energy but aren't we are innovating most of our technology online now?
Technology is evolving into novel configurations, yet the demand for offline settings has yet to be addressed. It's more like shutting down the internet online; turning it off is altogether different. Offline would serve beneficial reasons for the common people; for those who do not have the financial means to obtain what they require, these Offline servers would be extremely valuable. It will never happen; the impossible has a small amount possibility of becoming a reality. A digital currency that is offline would, of course, be a wonderful addition to the market, but its services will incur additional costs, and we all know that nothing is free in today's society


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Rampagoe004 on July 14, 2023, 05:15:01 PM
Much has been discussed about trading cryptocurrencies offline. I think it is still impossible to realize. Because now is the digital era. And cryptocurrencies are digital markets and are created using internet-based digital technologies. Until now I have not seen an idea that is close to the application of digital asset trading offline.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: meikonglili22 on July 15, 2023, 04:55:09 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

Yes, when new things emerge, bubbles often appear, and at the same time, some people will stir up troubles and endanger the economic security of the public.  In this regard, the relevant stakeholders will probably continue to game and explore. I believe that in time, the blockchain technology will have a route to generate more tangible value to society, so that more people can benefit, rather than speculation


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Godday on July 15, 2023, 06:20:43 AM
What digital currency needs is how to become a problem solver in the real world. There is a discussion about this in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459268.msg62552315#msg62552315) (of course there are many topics that discuss this and I will only mention one of them). How can digital currency not be created just for trading currencies but can be used in everyday use in the real world.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: JEEKBOYone on July 15, 2023, 08:49:35 AM
I saw a news this morning
The Coinstar offline kiosks set up in some Safeway supermarkets and Albertsons stores in California, Texas and Washington state can directly buy bitcoins, allowing consumers to use paper money to buy bitcoins when shopping locally.  In the press release, it is stated that if the pilot is successful, it will be opened to other parts of the United States in the future.
The offline application of digital currency is coming


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Smith.mr2 on July 15, 2023, 12:11:48 PM
Over the past two years, the crypto market structure has matured dramatically and become more institutionalized.  That means the market will be better prepared when another bull run comes along.
 The large-scale application of digital currency requires many factors, which is expected by many people


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: pplnd@ on July 15, 2023, 07:34:57 PM
Even if there is such a digital currency, it is the currency behavior of a certain country, and it will not come here and become the target of speculation.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Lamkuthang on July 15, 2023, 07:56:15 PM
We all look forward to new technologies that can improve the security of digital currency, and there are practical examples to support the circulation of digital currency, not just the dangerous purpose of speculation!

Is the type of coin X that you mean a digital currency that can be traded without causing dependence on a good and strong internet network? It seems like a visionary coin too. Btw, If there is. I seem interested to follow.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Smith.mr2 on July 15, 2023, 10:43:34 PM
I pay more attention to the return that digital currency can give me, and the digital currency market has huge growth potential.  Now that the demand for digital payment continues to grow, the digital currency market will continue to expand.  By participating in digital currency investments, investors can share in this growth potential and earn handsome returns.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Mehedi72 on July 15, 2023, 10:56:29 PM
I heard about such question years before and most of people were Against it. First of all, currently it doesn’t seems to be happened. Cryptocurrency volume, trading, buy sell order and others things need to update every second. With such conditions, how it is possible to manage all of those things without internet connection? If you have any idea, then you can share with us.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: milia2knle on July 16, 2023, 02:13:55 AM
Over the past two years, the crypto market structure has matured dramatically and become more institutionalized.  That means the market will be better prepared when another bull run comes along.
 The large-scale application of digital currency requires many factors, which is expected by many people
Hasn't digital currency transactions been used in the online shopping market for a long time? In my country, I don't need cash when I go out and pay with my phone.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: milia2knle on July 16, 2023, 02:27:18 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?
Digital money will be the dominant currency of the future. One thing the 2008 economic crisis showed us is that the traditional banking system is flawed. It was confirmed in 2020. More and more people see the need for viable alternatives. And that's what cryptocurrency provides - a secure, decentralized form of banking that gets governments and banks out of trouble.

The crazy thing is that even the banks are aware of this. Listen to what Deutsche Bank has to say. In their "Imagine 2030" report, they talk about how fragile the traditional monetary system is-by 2030, more than 200 million people will use digital money - by which time traditional currencies will have gone downhill.

It's not just Deutsche Bank. Twitter's Jack Dorsey has said he believes bitcoin will eventually become the world's single currency. Elon Musk has said, "Encryption is a better way to transfer value than a piece of paper. ” says blockchain-the technology that makes encryption possible-is worth 10 times more than the internet.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: taufik0911 on July 16, 2023, 07:51:45 AM
I heard about such question years before and most of people were Against it. First of all, currently it doesn’t seems to be happened. Cryptocurrency volume, trading, buy sell order and others things need to update every second. With such conditions, how it is possible to manage all of those things without internet connection? If you have any idea, then you can share with us.
You raise a valid point about the dependence of cryptocurrencies on internet connectivity. Indeed, the nature of cryptocurrencies requires real-time updates and access to online platforms for trading, transaction verification, and maintaining accurate records.

As of now, it is challenging to imagine managing cryptocurrency-related activities without an internet connection. The decentralized nature of cryptocurrencies relies on a network of computers and nodes interconnected through the internet to validate transactions and maintain consensus.

However, it's worth noting that there have been discussions and advancements in technologies like satellite-based internet connectivity and mesh networks that aim to provide internet access even in areas with limited or no traditional internet infrastructure. Such developments could potentially address concerns related to internet connectivity and expand access to cryptocurrencies in more remote regions.

Nonetheless, in the current landscape, having a stable and reliable internet connection remains a fundamental requirement for actively participating in the world of cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: danherbias07 on July 16, 2023, 08:15:42 AM
How can digital currencies be traded offline? Can you explain the idea?

It is an offline transaction, using a new algorithm, using Bluetooth transactions, so that the digital currency usage scenario returns to the essence of currency!
There will be problems with using this. Where will they put the ledger if that happens? Who will confirm the transactions? Such things should also be considered.
Like others said, if it's a good idea then it should've been created a long time ago and we are now using it because it will surely be helpful.
But things should be considered like attacks, again the confirmation which the miners do, and where the transaction can be seen for transparency. It's a good idea but there are too many flaws in it. It's not like we are sharing a .mp4 file here, it's money that we will be talking about and customers will make sure all their transactions are secured to trust the project.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: yhiaali3 on July 16, 2023, 09:25:56 AM
How can digital currencies be traded offline? Can you explain the idea?

It is an offline transaction, using a new algorithm, using Bluetooth transactions, so that the digital currency usage scenario returns to the essence of currency!
There will be problems with using this. Where will they put the ledger if that happens? Who will confirm the transactions? Such things should also be considered.
Like others said, if it's a good idea then it should've been created a long time ago and we are now using it because it will surely be helpful.
Frankly, I did not fully understand the idea and did not like it. It may be a new idea, but I find it unhelpful and contains many problems.

Basically, what is the benefit of trading offline? This, of course, is in addition to the problems you mentioned, such as the ledger, transaction confirmation, and other problems that will appear later.

There is a practical benefit from using offline wallets, for example, to increase security. As for offline trading, I do not find it necessary.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: flowing horse on July 16, 2023, 02:04:33 PM
Cryptocurrency is still considered more of a digital asset at present, but the real goal of Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies should be as a currency that can be used for "payment".


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Free to fly 321 on July 16, 2023, 10:35:48 PM
At present, we can only trade on the exchange. The so-called currency circle exchange is actually equivalent to a centralized trading platform. We all put our own coins on it for trading, and the platform provides us with technology, security, transactions, etc.  And so on, they charge a little transaction fee.
 If we want to use trading platform services, we must completely trust them. Putting coins on this platform is equivalent to putting my own money in other people's pockets.
 Others can actually dispose of our assets at will.
 So be sure to find a large platform with high reputation and reliability.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: SlimShadyMmp on July 16, 2023, 11:05:17 PM
Seriously Dude Can you send and post on this forum offline This is just baseless and senseless There need to be network in communication How do you propose offline digital coin Magic or oboy My advice to you is just shut -up and go play video games


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: el kaka22 on July 17, 2023, 04:44:59 AM
There would be way too many troubles with it that you wouldn't want to be part of. And at the end of the day, I am against being part of something at the very early stages, like literally  before its release.

There are people who fund projects before it's release and get some tokens when it's released and hope that they can sell it for a lot higher in the future, that's not going to be the case here and I believe that the best thing to do would be making sure that we are making a profit one way or another, that's just going to end up with much better result, it is just how it is in the end. I know that we are going to end up with a bit of a trouble but that doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with anything good in return with bitcoin for example, stick with that.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Smith.mr2 on July 18, 2023, 12:00:50 PM
No one can be sure when digital currency will be applied on a large scale, but everyone can be sure that digital currency will be applied on a large scale.  As an ordinary person, it is almost impossible to seize this opportunity, because excellent assets are usually in the hands of a few people, and the best opportunity has already been missed when they are discovered by ordinary people


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: TheGreatPython on July 20, 2023, 03:25:58 PM
Much has been discussed about trading cryptocurrencies offline. I think it is still impossible to realize. Because now is the digital era. And cryptocurrencies are digital markets and are created using internet-based digital technologies. Until now I have not seen an idea that is close to the application of digital asset trading offline.
Though nothing is impossible because we have seen things that we never expected happen and get success too, it still doesn't sound like there is going to be anything like that because the world is revolving around the internet these days and everything is becoming digital, so instead of going forward, technology wouldn't go backward because offline things were used to be the norm when there was no much internet and technology available.

And if we talk about trading, that becomes even more difficult to be done offline, one can think of only making transactions from one wallet to another wallet offline if it's designed in such a way just like how we send SMS from one mobile to another, but trading them wouldn't be a possibility.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: justdimin on July 22, 2023, 08:42:23 AM
Much has been discussed about trading cryptocurrencies offline. I think it is still impossible to realize. Because now is the digital era. And cryptocurrencies are digital markets and are created using internet-based digital technologies. Until now I have not seen an idea that is close to the application of digital asset trading offline.
Though nothing is impossible because we have seen things that we never expected happen and get success too, it still doesn't sound like there is going to be anything like that because the world is revolving around the internet these days and everything is becoming digital, so instead of going forward, technology wouldn't go backward because offline things were used to be the norm when there was no much internet and technology available.

And if we talk about trading, that becomes even more difficult to be done offline, one can think of only making transactions from one wallet to another wallet offline if it's designed in such a way just like how we send SMS from one mobile to another, but trading them wouldn't be a possibility.
That is true, when the world accepts a new technology they end up using it more and more, there are some "inventions" that didn't get picked up so we may never use them or maybe come back to them later but the internet is not one of them. We have been using it for a very long time and right now the whole world is built on that. If you could cut the internet of a nation for just 24 hours, you would make that nation lose more money than some natural disaster.

This is why it's quite important to realize that we are talking about something that would never happen. Of course there are places in the world where there is no internet, but at that point it's not internet companies job to bring internet there, it's peoples job to move somewhere where there is internet if you ask me.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: tengui on July 28, 2023, 11:39:26 PM
the question is, can you make digital currency transactions without a network? i think it is impossible
needing a stable network is one of the weaknesses of digital currency because without a stable network digital currency transactions cannot be carried out.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Rupok on August 08, 2023, 09:54:56 AM
It's impossible today's world depends on the Internet.
  Digital currencies cannot be transacted without internet. I don't know how to manage all these things without internet. I have not seen things like cryptocurrency transactions and currencies running without online connection.  Offline only we can think but it is never possible in reality. Since cryptocurrency is digital currency and has no form in reality it cannot be transacted or used without internet.There should be more interest in the return on investment that digital currencies can provide, and the digital currency market is expected to see huge growth later this year.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: lepbagong on August 10, 2023, 11:49:14 AM
It's impossible today's world depends on the Internet.
  Digital currencies cannot be transacted without internet. I don't know how to manage all these things without internet. I have not seen things like cryptocurrency transactions and currencies running without online connection.  Offline only we can think but it is never possible in reality. Since cryptocurrency is digital currency and has no form in reality it cannot be transacted or used without internet.There should be more interest in the return on investment that digital currencies can provide, and the digital currency market is expected to see huge growth later this year.
Technological developments make it possible for all transactions to use the internet network. How do you want to make crypto transactions without an internet network? It seems impossible that this will be done, even though science will advance like anything else and still requires an internet network.I agree with you that it is impossible for digital currency [which can't be touched, is not visible, and is not in physical form like currency] to be transacted without the internet, which is likened to traditional trading, which has been done so far.The growth of the digital currency market will certainly continue to grow because it makes every transaction very easy, but traditional currencies will still be used because there are still many people who need them.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: tsaroz on August 10, 2023, 02:56:53 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

People would always find a way to manipulate the balance or fake the coins when transactions happen without confirmation from a reliable source. People would be double spending the same coins when they don't require online confirmation.
But again it doesn't mean the internet is the only way to confirm it. Some satellite technologies like BeiDou that sends and receives signals from device without internet can one day be used as a way of confirming transactions. But that would be a huge upfront investment and most probably centralized. And again as always people would keep trying to hack it's security to manipulate the transactions.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Blitzboy on August 10, 2023, 03:49:14 PM
It's impossible today's world depends on the Internet.
  Digital currencies cannot be transacted without internet. I don't know how to manage all these things without internet. I have not seen things like cryptocurrency transactions and currencies running without online connection.  Offline only we can think but it is never possible in reality. Since cryptocurrency is digital currency and has no form in reality it cannot be transacted or used without internet.There should be more interest in the return on investment that digital currencies can provide, and the digital currency market is expected to see huge growth later this year.
Technological developments make it possible for all transactions to use the internet network. How do you want to make crypto transactions without an internet network? It seems impossible that this will be done, even though science will advance like anything else and still requires an internet network.I agree with you that it is impossible for digital currency [which can't be touched, is not visible, and is not in physical form like currency] to be transacted without the internet, which is likened to traditional trading, which has been done so far.The growth of the digital currency market will certainly continue to grow because it makes every transaction very easy, but traditional currencies will still be used because there are still many people who need them.
The internet will remain exist even if, for example, cutting-edge technological solutions are developed in the future.

Some would counter that although being digital, crypto transactions might still be carried out offline using hardware-to-hardware direct links or other mysterious methods. This isnt actually feasible, though, because of safety issues, potential benefits, or simply the way the wind is built. Even though it is a remote possibility, the proposal nevertheless has some merit.

Yes, traditional currencies are still important, but their interaction with digital currencies is like a dance that is still being improvised. They cooperate and they dont, and everything about it is intriguing and will keep changing in unexpected ways.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Mehedi72 on September 05, 2023, 09:45:23 PM
Our technology develops daily and we are eyewitness of many things what were suppose to be impossible before invented. So online trading as well as many thing may possible in future but he Main point is: why we need that offline when this is the era of internet! You said, we face network issue in many places but you also know that, interest networking is keep developing and already reached so many places even coverd rare areas too and I believe that networking wouldn’t be an issue in upcoming days.but that process will be helpful if possible to launched


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: ichsan ardi on September 06, 2023, 01:10:31 AM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

if we talk about cryptocurrency it is definitely about digital currency but for now we still need fiat for transactions because there are still areas where the network is not good or even there is no network at all but that is only minimal because the majority of people in the world definitely need the internet for everyday use. What's more, every day technology becomes more sophisticated, so always accept advanced technology and learn so that we don't get left behind


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Magic-Money on September 06, 2023, 11:04:25 AM
That's so amazing to see digital currency to trade offline without internet connection, you and I know that is not possible because as the name implies digital currency not analog or local currency where you can trade offline. And anything you are trading offline or internet connectivity is not a digital assets.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: gunhell16 on September 06, 2023, 01:22:27 PM

Some people say that the network signal is not good when you are away from home. If there are currencies that are traded offline, that would be great, and maybe there will be large-scale application scenarios for digital currencies! What do you think?

Digital currencies, even offline? That is not possible at this time. Everything digital in this generation requires an internet connection. Why is there any news that someone has been able to trade digital currency, or crypto, even if it's offline?

How can the transaction of a bitcoin or cryptocurrency be recorded in the blockchain if there is no internet? So what you are saying is not possible, dude. Remember, all transactions cannot be done without the blockchain because all the transactions that anyone will do are recorded there, and for that to happen in this day and age, you know, it needs the internet, it's that simple.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: JahriMeayer on October 15, 2023, 11:05:13 PM
That sounds wired cause i don't know how to manage all those things without internet. I haven’t seen such thing like currencies are treading without online connection. I saw you mentioned, such thing may happen with Bluetooth! I don’t know how but if so, then such Concept should be existed already cause there are many things that already made based on Bluetooth and now Bluetooth era is about to gone. But you are welcome if you can make this thing possible


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Nazmul012 on November 25, 2023, 04:46:07 AM
Haven't know any digital currency yet which is being traded offline and still unknown about application or software which are planning to done such thing. I don't know how things will get real time update, but such offline idea is new in crypto industry as we haven't heard about it yet. But internet connection needs to send a token and track the real time update. Without internet, such things could be difficult to be done. But internet capacity is possible to increase and i think soon we get good internet facilities everywhere soon as world is getting digital so faster


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Velemir Sava on November 27, 2023, 03:53:45 PM
So, the question is how did the exchange take place? Do they both sellers and buyers meet somewhere and then barter and they say we do it online..very funny as it sounds.  OP. As far as I know, offline transactions are manual transactions, if they use the internet they are no longer manual but are categorized as online. For my frugal scenario probably none.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Sophokles on November 27, 2023, 06:21:54 PM
It's impossible today's world depends on the Internet.
  Digital currencies cannot be transacted without internet. I don't know how to manage all these things without internet. I have not seen things like cryptocurrency transactions and currencies running without online connection.  Offline only we can think but it is never possible in reality. Since cryptocurrency is digital currency and has no form in reality it cannot be transacted or used without internet.There should be more interest in the return on investment that digital currencies can provide, and the digital currency market is expected to see huge growth later this year.

Internet is just a medium to exchange information from one computer to other through a server. What we do is we send information or commands through our computer and internet transact this information or commands thorough the server so it is obvious that without the internet it is impossible to do. Todays economy is dependent on the internet which makes everything fast. We don't need to wait for 1 month to send our message to another continent. So without internet not only digital currencies but also our economy will fall.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 27, 2023, 11:43:56 PM
IMO, it's still going to require internet connection for one to trade. But I understand about bluetooth connections, GPRS or even infrared and this requires that there's another person that you have to trade with. I think that's what OP is talking about and not connecting to the exchanges but software that can be applied and make a p2p trade and transfer through having those connections that I have mentioned. IMO, that's a good one and ideal way to transfer when there's no internet connection is around. Maybe we'll see that happen soon.


Title: Re: look, look, what's this
Post by: Adreman23 on November 27, 2023, 11:52:22 PM
Digital currencies indeed require the internet because it is necessary to verify the validity of transactions and record them in the public ledger known as the blockchain. Without these processes, any new digital currency allowing offline transactions would likely be centralized, similar to fiat money controlled by the government. If OP was joking, it's important to note that the decentralized nature of digital currencies is a fundamental aspect of their design.