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Title: Metaverse role model
Post by: CryptoHFs on July 10, 2023, 03:23:56 PM
When I was watching some metaverse samples for the roobet challenge I found that bitcointalk is actually the role model for the best metaverse.

Here we have everything.. discussions, mining, pools, services, auctions and more!

I mean the best project for bitcointalk.org could be it's own metaverse as the concept is there already. I saw a comment for OgNasty from a year or two ago showing interest in metaverse.. so what is up  :P

Will it happen one day integrating this website into a metaverse.. and if someone do it himself will @theymos be against that or fill a copyright claim

Thanks!


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: Nwada001 on July 10, 2023, 04:15:24 PM
Are you making a proposal for Bitcointalk to be moved into the metaverse in some way, allowing metaverse integration? If that's what you are proposing, I will be part of those who will consider it "no and void," for I don't think the forum needs that right now. This is like some random social media where the owner is trying so hard to develop and implement some trends in order to meet up with its competitors and increase its income. I believe there are much better things on the administrator's to-do list than even thinking about this for a second.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: CryptoHFs on July 10, 2023, 04:28:14 PM
Are you making a proposal for Bitcointalk to be moved into the metaverse in some way, allowing metaverse integration? If that's what you are proposing, I will be part of those who will consider it "no and void," for I don't think the forum needs that right now. This is like some random social media where the owner is trying so hard to develop and implement some trends in order to meet up with its competitors and increase its income. I believe there are much better things on the administrator's to-do list than even thinking about this for a second.
The forum will never do it as to have this legacy going it must remain as it is.. but I was referring to something like ninjatics a 3rd party action.

Not making a proposal as well just opening discussions and giving ideas


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: Pmalek on July 10, 2023, 04:40:33 PM
You should go into a bit more details about how you think Bitcointalk's Metaverse would look like and work. How will it benefit me as someone reading and writing on this forum?
Metaverse is a virtual world making you an integral part of it. Essentially, it makes you part of a game. I could see the appeal for something like that, for example, in online casinos. You create a character who walks around the floor and can interact with other players and play casino games, etc.

How would such a world work for Bitcointalk? Would we be walking between different forum boards that are represented in some way in this virtual world?
Local boards could be presented by sights and popular destinations from that country. What about the rest?


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: CryptoHFs on July 10, 2023, 04:45:42 PM
You should go into a bit more details about how you think Bitcointalk's Metaverse would look like and work. How will it benefit me as someone reading and writing on this forum?
Metaverse is a virtual world making you an integral part of it. Essentially, it makes you part of a game. I could see the appeal for something like that, for example, in online casinos. You create a character who walks around the floor and can interact with other players and play casino games, etc.

How would such a world work for Bitcointalk? Would we be walking between different forum boards that are represented in some way in this virtual world?
Local boards could be presented by sights and popular destinations from that country. What about the rest?
it's gonna be something like conquer online or similar games like dota maps


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: Faisal2202 on July 10, 2023, 06:18:07 PM
Are you making a proposal for Bitcointalk to be moved into the metaverse in some way, allowing metaverse integration? If that's what you are proposing, I will be part of those who will consider it "no and void," for I don't think the forum needs that right now. This is like some random social media where the owner is trying so hard to develop and implement some trends in order to meet up with its competitors and increase its income. I believe there are much better things on the administrator's to-do list than even thinking about this for a second.
Hehe, you are right, BTT have no competitor I think that's why this platform is upgrading slowly and if I give a thought about how this forum will look when it will be integrated to Metaverse. If that's what the OP asking. Then aren't we need accessories to be in Metaverse? Or, he was just referring to a game like mode. Just like any other 3d meta verse without VR accessories.

I did not caught the purpose exactly, like how this forum be integrated in Metaverse. I have many ideas in mind keep coming but I want to hear it from other members too. Plus specifically from the OP, I hope if he could mentioned the post where ognasty has shared his opinions.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: CryptoHFs on July 10, 2023, 06:21:58 PM
Are you making a proposal for Bitcointalk to be moved into the metaverse in some way, allowing metaverse integration? If that's what you are proposing, I will be part of those who will consider it "no and void," for I don't think the forum needs that right now. This is like some random social media where the owner is trying so hard to develop and implement some trends in order to meet up with its competitors and increase its income. I believe there are much better things on the administrator's to-do list than even thinking about this for a second.
Hehe, you are right, BTT have no competitor I think that's why this platform is upgrading slowly and if I give a thought about how this forum will look when it will be integrated to Metaverse. If that's what the OP asking. Then aren't we need accessories to be in Metaverse? Or, he was just referring to a game like mode. Just like any other 3d meta verse without VR accessories.

I did not caught the purpose exactly, like how this forum be integrated in Metaverse. I have many ideas in mind keep coming but I want to hear it from other members too. Plus specifically from the OP, I hope if he could mentioned the post where ognasty has shared his opinions.

Here is it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422962.msg61448899#msg61448899 not opinions he was just interested in metaverse and yes I mean the online one without VR accessories


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: AbuBhakar on July 10, 2023, 06:29:44 PM
When I was watching some metaverse samples for the roobet challenge I found that bitcointalk is actually the role model for the best metaverse.

Here we have everything.. discussions, mining, pools, services, auctions and more!

I mean the best project for bitcointalk.org could be it's own metaverse as the concept is there already. I saw a comment for OgNasty from a year or two ago showing interest in metaverse.. so what is up  :P

Will it happen one day integrating this website into a metaverse.. and if someone do it himself will @theymos be against that or fill a copyright claim

Thanks!

It’s a community and not a metaverse since forum is not an AR concept. Everything is working like this and I don't see much utility on converting the forum to metaverse which all threads will be available on virtual 3d concept. The forum still run on SMF for a long time that makes the forum feature very limited. I doubt this proposal will be approved or considered in the near future since there's a lot of pending updates here that forum users really need.

Metaverse hype is already over and there's no Metaverse project that is currently perform to meet the expectation of everyone. Most metaverse project is a failure due to the poor development. Bitcointalk will just waste funding on a costly project that is not a necessity.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: Faisal2202 on July 10, 2023, 06:36:43 PM
Here is it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422962.msg61448899#msg61448899 not opinions he was just interested in metaverse and yes I mean the online one without VR accessories
When you mentioned in your post that
I saw a comment for OgNasty from a year or two ago showing interest in metaverse
i thought ognasty has showed some interest in making forum into metaverse but after reading his post from the link, he didn't showed any interest to convert this forum into metaverse. As he showed his interest toward metaverse projects only and i think you will find hundreds of members showing interest in Metaverse.

Even i am included, i have wrote so many article for Metaverse projects and i do know some basics  ;) so i coming to main point even if you wanted to convert this forum into metaverse, first the developers had to make 3d Environment then the NFTs etc. Like for characters, giving trust to each other or merits to each others. I wonder how the replies would be given and how one can read the topic of another member who is living another region of the mao while we are another corner.

This whole idea needs so much efforts like you are asking a hell lot. I have a small request to developers that before making the metaverse for btt just put a small is equal to sign inside every img tag so that we do not have to put it there. 99% of the images needs customization for resizing and putting this = sign become a headache so please install this first.  :) :) :) (Just kidding)


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: Hamza2424 on July 10, 2023, 07:05:12 PM
Here is it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422962.msg61448899#msg61448899 not opinions he was just interested in metaverse and yes I mean the online one without VR accessories

Hmm, kinda weird isn't it? Buddy how are you relating the metaverse without the actual base technologies, I think you are just taking a term of reference for your view because it can be a digital world without VR and accessories, not the metaverse, To be in virtual reality actually you need virtual equipment.

At the end of the day, the idea of shifting from the web view to the avatars is not bad at all. Metaverse needs time at least in underdevelopment countries it really needs 7 to 15 years.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: Eh Moo Nah on July 10, 2023, 09:27:07 PM
If Bitcointalk will be a metaverse it needs an upgrade with everything and it's users should upgrade as well with their Computer specifications and etc etc. I like the Idea of O.P. but we in the real World, and Metaverse Bitcointalk is surreal for real.



Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: BenCodie on July 10, 2023, 10:09:18 PM
Here is it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422962.msg61448899#msg61448899 not opinions he was just interested in metaverse and yes I mean the online one without VR accessories

Hmm, kinda weird isn't it? Buddy how are you relating the metaverse without the actual base technologies, I think you are just taking a term of reference for your view because it can be a digital world without VR and accessories, not the metaverse, To be in virtual reality actually you need virtual equipment.

At the end of the day, the idea of shifting from the web view to the avatars is not bad at all. Metaverse needs time at least in underdevelopment countries it really needs 7 to 15 years.

You don't need virtual reality equipment to join existing metaverse's...most of the time you just need a desktop, audio and web3 connection capability.

The way he is describing BitcoinTalk in metaverse format makes complete sense. If a developer were to create a character for each user, from there the metaverse could work in many ways. The flaw in the concept is that it would not work without interaction, and I doubt that users of a very analog SMF forum will prefer to use the metaverse version after the novelty wears off, especially with no incentive to use it over the SMF version.

Interoperability between the two would be a challenge too. Even if every user was an NPC until they became interactive (character does what is being done on the SMF forum), it would not just be a resource intensive effort but it might take the fun (and the point) out of it for interactive users, as they'd be in a metaverse 99℅ full of bots.

I do suppose with good development that it is possible and it could be made to work...it wouldn't be a small job though, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: Pmalek on July 11, 2023, 03:35:04 PM
Considering that the forum still doesn't have an official mobile application in an era of smartphones, and that the work on the new upgraded forum has been going on for a long time, this could definitely happen within the next 100-200 years. ;D OP just be patient.
Joking aside, I still fail to understand how a metaverse can replace a forum whose reason of existence is reading and writing.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: mk4 on July 11, 2023, 04:03:30 PM
It really depends on what your definition of "metaverse" is — because there are a crap ton of different descriptions out there from VR to crypto to NFTs; though I'd say no to all 3 (as I think it's totally unnecessary), feel free to convince me otherwise!


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: CryptoHFs on July 11, 2023, 06:18:57 PM
It really depends on what your definition of "metaverse" is — because there are a crap ton of different descriptions out there from VR to crypto to NFTs; though I'd say no to all 3 (as I think it's totally unnecessary), feel free to convince me otherwise!
Can't convince you.. I don't really care whether it turns into MV  or not. Posts get opened most of the time whether to create discussions or get merits.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 11, 2023, 09:44:48 PM
OP, your idea may be good, but I think it will not be considered by theymos because quite a lot of people on the forum still love the way the forum operates, and there have been a lot of ideas or suggestions that have been made before now, but many have yet to be considered because there are way more important things that really matter than the ones that have been made. I don't think the forum is too old-school more than any of its competitors, and perhaps this forum is still not to be even compared to any other crypto-related platform in terms of deciplin, accuracy of information, and many other things that show that this community is better than every other platform.



Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: CryptoHFs on July 11, 2023, 10:32:09 PM
OP, your idea may be good, but I think it will not be considered by theymos because quite a lot of people on the forum still love the way the forum operates, and there have been a lot of ideas or suggestions that have been made before now, but many have yet to be considered because there are way more important things that really matter than the ones that have been made. I don't think the forum is too old-school more than any of its competitors, and perhaps this forum is still not to be even compared to any other crypto-related platform in terms of deciplin, accuracy of information, and many other things that show that this community is better than every other platform.



Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

As a SMF template.. what are those important things to do? It will remain the same template.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: noorman0 on July 12, 2023, 01:55:38 AM
Bitcointalk is a basic forum for knowledge discussion with complete historical records, which is expected to be easily accessible so that everyone including guests will benefit without limitations. As for the metaverse, this is another concept of entertainment (most of which is paid) and not all bitcoin fans particularly like it since its introduction. At this point you can imagine of things that could potentially degrade forum stats, especially guests.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: aysg76 on July 13, 2023, 04:00:16 PM
I also don't understand exactly what you mean when you link Bitcointalk with metaverse a virtual reality world? This is forum a place to have discussion with text and images which is best suitable rather then entering some low quality graphic characters where you can have discussion.

Although the future is supporting these things but sometimes relying on traditional methods is more suitable according to me especially in the forum case and not make it part of some gaming concept.When it was in hype many companies jump into Metaverse but it's not easy to build up a whole thing and do things over there like we do regularly so I won't support this thing.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: libert19 on July 16, 2023, 03:35:46 AM
I don't find metaverse concept appealing, I have tried few metaverse platforms, they appeared useless to me, basically like a VR video game with possibly the worst graphics.

I like the forum as it is, it's basic and it functions well. When everyone is after new tech, a simple one like what we have currently, itself makes it unique.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: SamReomo on July 16, 2023, 04:56:02 AM
When I was watching some metaverse samples for the roobet challenge I found that bitcointalk is actually the role model for the best metaverse.

Here we have everything.. discussions, mining, pools, services, auctions and more!

I mean the best project for bitcointalk.org could be it's own metaverse as the concept is there already. I saw a comment for OgNasty from a year or two ago showing interest in metaverse.. so what is up  :P

Will it happen one day integrating this website into a metaverse.. and if someone do it himself will @theymos be against that or fill a copyright claim

Thanks!

The Bitcointalk is a community of members who are interested in Bitcoin and crypto-currencies, and it has nothing to do with any kind of metaverse. The metaverse is still not a complete concept and there has been little to no work on it other than selling those heavily priced devices to grab money out of the pockets of the ones who get attracted by the concept. I would say that real metaverse is still a fiction and there has been no real life work to show that how it will look like other than some illustrations in the form of digital art or some animations which are basically similar to old style 3d animations.

I don't think that @theymos or anyone else would like to see this amazing forum in any other form than the way it is. The current style of the forum is still the most unique and the simplest way for the users to use the forum and interact with each other and there is no such need to create a separate fiction based version of the forum that won't be as appealing as it is imagined to be. So, in my opinion this forum is in its best state and no change is necessary to destroy the purpose of this amazing forum.


Title: Re: Metaverse role model
Post by: virasog on July 16, 2023, 06:31:25 AM
I don't find metaverse concept appealing, I have tried few metaverse platforms, they appeared useless to me, basically like a VR video game with possibly the worst graphics.

I like the forum as it is, it's basic and it functions well. When everyone is after new tech, a simple one like what we have currently, itself makes it unique.

Metaverse is the future, no doubt about it, Even if it does not seem appealing but in the future there will be many changes and metaverse will be in its true form. These days we play video games or some virtual reality games but metaverse will take all the gaming industry to the whole new level. Even the cinematic industry will change where you and me be the Hero in the movies but this all will take time.

I do not know how the forum can be integrated into Metaverse because developing only Avators etc is not the true essence of Metaverse technology. I am not so techy so imagine what the Metaverse bitcointalk forum should look like.  :)