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Timelord2067 pissed me off with this story that I'm a scammer.

I have never defrauded anyone, the only data that can be read from my history is that I have repaid dozens of loans. The blockchain and transactions can confirm this even more than my word.

No one opened a single scam accusation against me, just because i never scammed anyonone: I have a job, I have a real life and I have my money and my crypto.

What do I do with the money I borrow? Those are things that concern me. I use cryptocurrency for my privacy, and it's certainly not my intention to tell the first idiot who asks me certain things.
Of course I do things that are legal, permitted and that don't cause me problems.

I didn't cheat because Mr. Timelord did the guardian, but because I'm an honest person unlike timelord who keeps accusing me of being dishonest.




Message @Timelord2067:

- You was removed from DT members just because you acted like an idiot.

- You tried to contact a lot of users by PM (you contacted Shasan and others) asking about me, because you were preparing your charges.  Technically this is unsolicited PM, reason for Ban. And 1Maiu has already made a similar accusation to you (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459010.msg62517299#msg62517299)

EDIT : If you're depressed and your life doesn't make sense, stop venting your dissatisfaction on others and work to improve your life.

As far as I understand, this time you are accused of being the alt account of the banned P2Pfinder (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=1047338) member. Same contact email hedgefx @tuta.io address is written on both accounts. This seems like a serious link that the same person is between both accounts.
I would say that this time is much worse for you than the previous conflict with Timelord.

This might not be a problem if one of the accounts was not banned. Ban evasion is not allowed due to forum rules.

Regardless of your personal views regarding the user making the accusations, you should address the serious allegations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394559.msg62537818#msg62537818) against you in the "Known Alts of any-one" thread. As far as I can see, Timelord2067 has presented some solid evidence that you might be an alt account from a previously banned user P2Pfinder. Just like examplens pointed out, the current situation is significantly more serious than the previous case involving your connection with alterra57.

P2Pfinder was created as a "Business Account" just with the hope to promote a trading service. Think was banned for sending some PM to other users, but not for scam.

This kind of service wasn't appreciated and results wasn't good too.

Account never scammed anyone, but trading results was bad, and this idea was abandoned.

HedgeFx was created as personal account. As you can see all service was suspended more thand 3 years ago.

When I opened my account I could have chosen any Usermane, but I chose HedgeFX precisely because I didn't scam or fool anyone and and I liked to keep my name.

Maybe could appear as a BAN evasion, and unfortunately I can't say anything about this because I opened this account only with the intention of participating in the life of the forum as I really did.

But once again I want to underline how the purpose of timelord is to say that I am a scammer and i try to cheat people,

   Ban Evasion: HedgeFx u=2221175 is the alt of banned user P2Pfinder u=1047338 through their shared use of the email hedgefx@tuta.io and identical "HedgeFX Trading & Investments" thread to scam others with ponzi like offers.


As amply demonstrated I have always repaid all my debts and a lot of auction won on collectibles board .

And also on P2Pfinder there are no scam accusation or negative feedback (No DT trust, no untrusted feedback)  . See trust https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1047338.

Does not matter banned is banned. YOU are banned not that account. theymos / the mods can make exceptions to this rule but in the end, by the rules, you are no longer supposed to be here.

With that being said, without knowing all reasons for the ban, not just what you tell us, you are going to be in for a tough time not getting booted off.

Not saying it's right or wrong but it's the rule here.

-Dave

How many times did you get a spam ban before being permanent?

Luckily I was banned only 1 time for 7 days and learned from it

I don't think PM spam ban being permanent from the first time

Does not matter. Banned is banned. If YOU get a temp ban it's still YOU. You can't come here with CryptoHFs2.
P2Pfinder is still banned, therefore all of their alts are banned. Period. Full stop.

If the ban is too harsh, or anything else is no longer a reputation thing. It's a discussion for Meta about if the ban should be lifted. And if it is, what if any limitations should be placed on the account.

As of now, we just have what HedgeFx says.

I will also say I don't have an issue with HedgeFx (or Timelord2067 for that matter) BUT, the rules are the rules.

-Dave

Thank you.. another point how does he knows the members email addresses? I thought that thing is private on this forum. As per my search hedgefx didn't share the same email here on the forum but on another bitcoin forum. Just concerned about accounts 🔐 thanks.

1) Because it's posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2572722.msg26208188#msg26208188

2) HedgeFX admitted to it a few posts above:

Once again, this is not the place to discuss this. It all should be a post in Meta.

I'll let others fight it out and the mods decide.

-Dave

I don't know why you ask such questions when you yourself left your email address everywhere. In addition to the fact that Timelord wrote all the references where he found the disputed address (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394559.msg62537818#msg62537818), It's easy to find you on the bitcoin.com forum with that email address in your signature and you confirm the connection with P2Pfinder Bitcointalk account. Link (https://forum.bitcoin.com/scam-accusations/how-i-lost-trust-and-1-million-usd-in-changelly-be-warned-t54775.html#p102511)

DaveF has a right here, I suggest you go to the meta and talk to the forum administrators about this case. If the rules were to be followed, your participation here should be over.

The question of open loans should be asked here, shasan and hopenotlate should be informed about the potential ban.

Asking because I am using a placeholder email anyone that guess it can create it and steal my account now, lol
I used this forum for fun didn't know i will fail in love with it so it seems like I must link the account to a real email..changed to another placeholder temporary until I have time for real email.

He was on the 6/7th of July - this is their response:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/12/ZvSVJ.jpeg

As with their first loan to HedgeFx there are no TX details, so we only have both of their words that a loan occurred.

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@DaveF - Thanks for your kind words.

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With regards to the link https://forum.bitcoin.com/scam-accusations/how-i-lost-trust-and-1-million-usd-in-changelly-be-warned-t54775.html#p102511 - Archive [1 (https://archive.md/A7AZ4#selection-1847.19-1851.15)] [2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20230712162213/https://forum.bitcoin.com/scam-accusations/how-i-lost-trust-and-1-million-usd-in-changelly-be-warned-t54775.html)]

P2Pfinder starts another thread with HedgeCryFx which is their twitter handle.  HedgeFx uses that twitter handle in that post, P2Pfinder uses it here in the Forum.

There is a Forum user HedgeCryFx https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1049871 who does not appear to have posted ever (or was nuked prior to 2018) and has zero posts:

Date Registered:    2017-07-01, 03:30:09
Last Active:    2017-10-03, 23:42:38

Call it a hunch, but I'm guessing this is yet another alt.

Never seen a looser like you till now. You aren't a policemen or an admnin: Hopenotlate would'nt disclose his address, seems legit And you are nobody to force him to do it.

If your stupid accusations were true, and I was a scammer, I would have asked for a much larger loan from Shasan, and I assure you I would have gotten it.

Maybe i will be banned (hope not, but i respect admin dicisions about) , but be sure that loans will be repaid and you will remain a looser ad you will never became a DT .

And once again, before you mention my name and accuse me of being a scammer, wash your mouth out with bleach. You in the least are worthy to even write my name

If both use okx there won't be a public tx

I don't know what kind of address use Hopenotlate, but he have his reason to don't show it.
The looser intntion is to demostrate that i scammed people.

If both use okx there won't be a public tx
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Good luck in this fight but you shouldn't get banned I literally saw someone has an account asking the admin to revoke his main account ban in a public thread and they didn't ban him. Good luck anyway

I wouldn't put a lot of thought into that part of it.  I go through great lengths to disassociate my lending funds from my main stash to preserve my privacy.  I wouldn't assume anything untoward just because a lender chooses to preserve his privacy.

Nevertheless Timelord2067, good effort in finding a link between HedgeFX and the previously banned user.  Honestly, I'm not sure HedgeFX is someone we need to be worried about as a scammer, but as DaveF pointed out, a ban is a ban, and ban evasion is not a good look for someone trying to do business on the board.

@HedgeFX, it's worth pointing out that scams have nothing to do with bans.  Scams aren't moderated, and scammers are not banned.  The ban had to result from breaking one or more of the forum rules.  If I were you I would create a ban appeal thread for the P2Pfinder account in Meta, and stop posting anywhere on the forum with the exception of that thread.  At least for the time being, while the mods have an opportunity to look at your case.

Not trying to go off topic here, but I speak with hopenotlate a lot and can say that a loan did in fact occur and was repaid. IMO really unless its newbies vouching for 1 another or something of that sort, I don't see where it's anyone's business as far as needing to see the txid. If someone wanted to verify, I'm sure that proof might be given via pm, but it doesn't necessarily have to be publicly posted for every case.

I ask for loans and keep it all private. My lender is fine with it and always gets repaid with nothing posted.

Regarding ban evasion, unfortunately people are telling you the truth. Banned means gone as a person, not just the account. I don't know that I 100% agree with that rule. Depends on the offense IMO, but that's not my call to make. Hopefully if you do get banned and currently have a loan, you still repay and keep your morals in tact.

As far as I can tell, your intention was probably not to scam with all those multiple loans you made. If you were to do so, you probably would have done it a long time ago, but that ban evasion part is disappointing to be honest. That will be for the Mods to judge and decide, though.

I also think It would be in your best interest if you just avoid the feuds and dramas, they never materialize into something good. If someone is trying to nag you. Just ignore them. Do your thing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2572722.msg26208188#msg26208188
Is exactly the same as this topic from HedgeFx: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203031.msg54259301#msg54259301
And in that topic, somebody "loses" $500 and then Hedge lock the topic and stop the "service"? Seems to a scam to be but what do I know.
But if you did abanoned the trading idea and it was so bad and everything, why was the first thing you did on your "new" account HedgeFx to start a trading thread again?????
Very strange, and it did go bad there to.. people lost their money all the time, or did they really? I don't care and not up to me to decide, but very very very strange that a person opens an new account, starts trading again if he get banned and it works out terrible bad??  ???

I don't think you're as innocent as you want to appear. I feel little bit sorry for @alterra57 that was recognize in all this earlier.

Topic was locked because service was suspended, as I wrote. No one was scammed or cheated.


Instead of make false accusations against me, why you don’t tell us about your fake loan service?
My history and blockchain say more than my words.

Haha oh yes my loan serivce is so fake, damn you busted me.  ;D You mean this - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445759.0 ? Please tell me what exactly is fake with it?
Terrible bad try of you to change focus to me. I have nothing to hide there or here.
Or maybe its fake because I don't afford to lend out big amounts like Sashan? Or you are angry because you could not loan any big amounts when you did ask me?

You have littery PM;ed me and also added me to TG and also APPLIED for a loan...
You forget that? and I accepted it but you told me to stop, you was gonna pay back Sashan first. (Your post you deleted is still in archive)

But since you want to change focus to me, lets go.
You say nobody was scammed, OK so how do we know that? Somebody lost 600 USD & he gave you negative feedback.
You did not reply to anything he accusing you for, and how do we even know that you traded with his money and not took it in your pocket and just said you lost it?

You complain that Timelord act like he does and then you do the EXACT same thing?

I hope they ban you since you are not allowed to be here and obvious has break the rules more then once. Good luck in the future.

OFFTOPIC

This is the second time you are insinuating something shady about my loans to HedgeFX.
When you did the first time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457081.msg62501753#msg62501753) I tried to have a reasonable conversation with you (referring to the PMs you shared in this thread) on how to balance my privacy needs with the need for forum transparency when I lend to someone, but you simply ignored the issue, derailing the discussion to user HedgeFX, showing no interest in it.
But yet you are at it again.
Do you want to put your money where your mouth is?
Come on lets bet 500 USDT (the loan amount) that I can conclusively prove it happened.

/OFFTOPIC

Simply because trade was made by API on customer account.

Yes, i ask you in past for loan and then i stopped it because i paied first Shasan loans: this prove again i'm different from you .

What is even this for answer?

How is my loan service fake? What have my loan service to do with ANYTHING of this? If it something you or anyone wannna ask about it, do it like a normal person and ask me and I gladly answer your questions.
(like you did before in PM)
So please stop your nonsense shit talk and man up and stop speak shit behind a monitor. YOU KNOW my loan service is legit. (even that is very small and totally dead)

Yes of course you are different from me, you are a liar and a bad trader, I am definitely not anything of that.
Or you mean that you pay back loans and I don't? Sorry to break it for you, but we are different there to, I will never in my life take a loan anywhere not even if i am gonna buy a house.
But you are a good boy that pay backs your loan, i give you that.  :-*

And also just because you say "Simply because trade was made by API on customer account."  it still proofs nothing zero, you told everyone in your trade that you automatic stop on loss, but that $600 was gone very fast.
But again I don't give a fuck, you don't need to explain anything to me, but be careful to make up delusional stuff about people when you ain't gods son it will only make yourself look bad.

Again, good luck in the future.

As @examplens said in this locked thread by alterra57:


From what I can tell of all the ~400 posts alterra57 has made quite a few are to reject loan applications - Just three users are accepted for loans from alterra57 - HedgeFx receives the majority (non-collateral) and just two other users are granted loans - twice to one and once to the second.  All other loans are rejected.

Elsewhere I have documented HedgeFx is habitually late with their loan repayments - they currently have TWO unrepaid non-collateral loans.  (and they applied for their first loan from alterra57 just six posts after examplens quoted post when questions were raised about the "proof" offered by alterra57 of their first loan also referenced above)

You are angry because you was removed from DT list after your mistake? A lot of reputable users have demostrated that you are wrong on this. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455155.msg62357567#msg62357567





You are a BIG LIAR! Again: loan active but not unrepaid. They Expires on tomorrow (Shasan) and on July 31 (hopenotlate) .

May I suggest you lock these kinds of threads and instead concentrate on your ban ^(evasion) appeal?

You do want to appeal your ban ^(evasion) - don't you?

This are the first word you wrote , after long time that i appreciate.  This will be locked as you suggested.

Ban Appeal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459697.msg62544809#msg62544809