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If you use Paypal and can receive payments and pay me in crypto, I have a deal for you.

I have a writing deal with a client who can only pay with Paypal. In fact, I've missed many such deals in the past, but I want to start getting all the clients I can possibly get. Here's the deal: if your country supports PayPal, you'll partner with me to receive the payments.

These are strictly clients who want to advertise on my website and those I write for. When you get paid, you pay me in BTC or USDT. Let's say I get 90% and you get 10%. Some of these will be quite regular, so it can add up. Payments typically range from $50 - $400.

I'll need the payment made the same day that the client paid to consider you dependable, so we can have a long-term partnership.

If this is something you can do, contact me on Telegram at @Cyberczar, stating your Bitcointalk username.

Where are you from? Just a suggestion but if you can get a Payoneer account or have access to banking in your country, you should be able to receive payments without having to deal with somebody else.

Since you're offering writing services, you could maybe post on Fiverr where the other party could pay you using PayPal, so that you withdraw them later[1]

[1] https://www.fiverr.com/support/articles/360010530058-Withdraw-your-earnings?segment=seller

You can make them pay to this exchanger PayPal to usdt fees 9.5% ~ 10.5% https://magnatus.com/en

I can do this but the problem is there’s a lot of risk on my side once I sent you the Bitcoin because Paypal payment can be disputed provided that your client will give an evidence that the service that he purchased is not delivered. Asking for a same day crypto exchange is not worth it for a 10% commission that can be refunded from my debit card that connected on my paypal.

I do think that family and friends payment are not refundable however its still better to avoid such deal and leave it for heavy exchangers

I'm not discounting the possibility, but I've never had a refund issue. Most clients who insist on Paypal even though they have access to crypto payments do so because they need a level of protection. These are mainly people who assume that I may not publish their press releases after paying for them. There's no way I'd receive a payment and not deliver. In any case, if you provide evidence of a refund, that wouldn't be an issue. I can also refund you what was charged to your account.



The problem I have with platforms such as Fiverr and Upwork is their high fees. Also, you waste a lot of time hunting for jobs. Time better spent in doing the job.

He means to invite the exciting client there not hunt for jobs. Also in upwork after a certain amount the fees drop for 5% so you can use it better than fiver also you can create payoneer account and send your client invoices that he can pay through the card associated to the PayPal and fees as I remember are dirt low.

The nature of the PayPal transaction is that it can be reversed, while Bitcoin transactions are ir-reversible, and therefore, given that your account does not contain a commercial trust record besides the negative trust from one of DT, you must remove this bold condition.

Therefore, if you want to account for someone from the forum, you must wait at least 180 days* before receiving crypto or try to use P2P services outside the forum.

I do not advise anyone to conduct a transaction with this account according to the above condition.

* I don't know if the date is accurate but I mean the maximum period for which the amount cannot be reversed.


As long as you want crypto, tell them to use a escrow, or risk getting paid lately. ;)

How about sending your Bitcoin right after you deliver you work to client? This way we can avoid being refunded and save us trouble on the possibility of shit refund.

How much time do you usually need to deliver the work done to your client? I'm just interested on this offer because I'm using my paypal regularly to pay for social media ads that I'm spending in daily basis. If you really need the funds upfront. I guess you can just use 3rd party services like suggested above since the commission fee range is same to most typical exchanger available online.

Some cases were able to refund balances after 180 days.. However i have added above an exchanger that exchange PayPal to crypto and its listed on bestchange.. better for him to use it

Paypal buyers can ask for a refund up to 180 days that's 6 months what if you have 10 transactions and you suddenly vanish, your partner will have six months of worrying in case there is a refund, and the 10% commission is not worth it, and in case there is a dispute and he cannot reach you how can your partner answer the dispute when he is not the seller he can easily lose the dispute.

That's the deal. For example. I have an offer of $200 at the moment. I can deliver it in the next 4 hours if I get a reliable receiver. The client will pay in say 2 day, that's when I expect the crypto. Same day. If there's refund issue any time, just call my attention to it, although I doubt that will happen. I've never used Paypal to receive funds so you should know if the deal is good enough for you. In any case it's still open to anyone who thinks its worthwhile. 10% is the maximum I can offer at the moment.

Let's say everything is as you say: you want long-term cooperation and are willing to pay 10% of the total traffic through PayPal.
How do you imagine that $100 on PP equals that same amount in BTC?
Someone who will do this exchange for you has to somehow buy BTC with your money, and as far as I know, there is also a percentage that will take the exchanger from him. There is no PP to BTC in 1:1 here. Maybe in some short-term and individual exchanges, but difficult if it will be on a daily basis. In the end, your partner will also work (risk) without or with very low profit.

For example, we have a user who has been offering this service for 6 years, maybe you should try it there https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1992018.560

I will contact you once I traded already my asset to Bitcoin. But I’m still doing some more research on making this safe transaction. I’m actually didn’t experienced dispute on all of my PP transaction but I’m skeptical to do this with someone low rank in the forum. I will contact you once I’m already decided. I just need to consult a friend on this case and know how to secure properly a PP payment to avoid dispute.

PP guidelines stated that a user can’t dispute a fund that being scam but they can ask for refund when the product is not delivered. This is the tricky part that I’m still trying to comprehend.

Thanks for this. I've contacted them. I don't mind going for 15%.


Sure... just take your time. No pressure here. Since the other fellow is doing it for 15%, I can offer you 15% if you make up your mind. I really do not mind working with both of you to spread my own risk. One Paypal account for my site services and another for my writing.

Maybe we forgot something in this whole story, which is that OP gets BTC or some altcoin, and whoever receives payments to his PP must take into account that he can at any time be asked by PP to prove the legitimacy of the money and additional verification. There is also the question of paying taxes, because regardless of the fact that it is a US-based service, other countries can ask for (and get) data about their citizens who use this service.

All that for 10% or maybe 15% doesn't seem attractive to me at all.

I can confirm this scenario as i'm also managing some websites that accepts article publication. In my many years of working i've never experience of getting refunded through Paypal from different clients because it's easy for you to unpublish the article once they do that, talking about business ethics, there might be a delay of payment but no for refund issue.

Regardless of percentages and numbers being involved it is wise to take in to account the post history and feedback of the OP, then things will become even clearer. I think the issues you raised of verification and taxation are secondary when it comes to the actual person behind the one proposing the so-called service in the first place.

I would do it, but I would withhold an amount "just in case". Seems very reasonable when it comes to PayPal. A kind of collateral.

How thoughtful, but no thanks. I already closed a deal with someone.