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you must be careful if there are full members who suddenly take a loan, even if they (Mafia) have a signature that can pay you weekly. it is fake, they, he (or only 1 person) is very organized.

They or (only 1 person who has multiple accounts) are from the past, as bounty hunters !!!.

they (1 person) rise from the newbie, then farming merit to full member, then join the signature campaign, rank up to senior, hero, and so on, then take a loan from you just for trust rating, and after enough trust is collected, he will run.

I don't have proof, because they are already smart and learned from the past (where get caught same erc20 and BTC address),

they are already smart and know how to create address which is not connected to each (same) other.

he even creates new account exchanges to facilitate that mission here.

he even knows how to mixer his btc received from the payment signature campaign weekly.

Damn, Criminals are now smarter than the police.

NOTE:
(this thread I created to collect merit to rank up full members, I want to make my pizza as an avatar.
Believe me, I won't join any signature campaign on this account even doomsday!!!)

You need 64 more merits to rank up to full member, and you think making a post about account farming and loan defaulters would give you all of that? I strongly doubt if that's gonna happen, if you truly want to wear an Avatar badly then you should try to improve your posting technique at least you have been able to earn 36 merits why don't you follow that same style unless you somehow earned them from a contest.

Be careful Op so that you won't make and all of a sudden it will be taken as an attempt to beg merit.

Back to the Op, lenders have tried thier best to give loans to those that they think managed to grow their account themselves, and also have a good post history so as to avoid giving loan to someone who purchased a high ranking account from an account farm, but since everyone in the forum is anonymous you really can't tell for all account if they are still being controlled by the original creators or not.

Seems like a merit-begging thread to me like what others are doing. The only difference is that, OP really stated it here which is kind of a brave act if you will ask me while others aren't directly saying it, but it's pretty obvious that it's their intention to beg merits thus, creating a thread like that.

Lenders have different criteria on how they will give out loan to different users here. They aren't just dumb users that will just give out loans to random strangers.

You want to make your pizza as an avatar? Then work hard for it, or maybe try sending your entries in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.0), or maybe try to PM The Sceptical Chymist, and maybe you're eligible to get merits from him. You won't join any signature campaign? Did you know that money can change one's mind in an instant? I don't believe what you are saying TBH, and my apologies for my statement, but that's just my opinion. :) Don't be mad at me.

I very understand you guys here, I know you guys will definitely comment on "my unimportant note" than my topic.
those objects (Note) I create to sell my thread. and success, you are even more interested in that NOTE than my point topic.
and, Indirectly I am being sold myself. tks

Criminals will do everything possible to claim credibility to steal from people. Although I have not come across any information about high-ranking members farming accounts to take loans nothing is impossible. Hacked or bought account will be ideal for this kind of criminal activity because it will be hard for someone to lose an account that took so much effort and time to build just because of a loan.

This thread: Someone Loan using My Account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459055.0) shows that hackers are now using hacked accounts to take loans. Members should ensure that their accounts are protected to avoid hacks. Some members have even decided to receive neutral tags stating that they will never take loans to protect their accounts from these criminals. Lenders should also pay more attention to these loan proposals and demand more details so that these fraudsters can be dictated. Their accounts should be exposed and tagged by high-ranking members.

One bad apple spoils the whole barrel.

When someone already reach high rank and participated in signature campaign where they can earn around $50-$150/week, how it's make sense they would take a loan and disappeared? Let's say someone ask $1,000, it's mean they need to active in signature campaign for 7-20 weeks.

It's true someone could use that strategy, but the reality it's high unlikely as they have potential to make more money by accumulating it slowly.

Yeah totally agree with your opinion @Helena Yu.


It's not too late to become a full member, focus on how you can help others by not focusing on merit, hopefully helping you reach your goals the most.

Why do you think someone will send you merits for such a basic topic? Your post was quite good as you said some suspicious behaviors from Borrower but this topic is now known to every lenders. Now they judge many things from a borrower if he should get a loan but still now some lenders fall in a trap. I think some of the scammers grow forum account either to join a signature campaign and if they fail then focus on lending services to scam.

Your whole information was good but not up to the mark to get Merits. But you did it more troublesome when you indirectly beg for merits. Have you read about forum rules?


Just imagine if everyone is doing like you that means begging for merits directly or indirectly then what will be the environment of this forum? It's not too hard to gain Merits if you contribute actively beside learning. Also you learn about others inspirational stories and how they are became successful. These will be really helpful to know how to join discussions in a constructive way. So let's check it out:

Inspirational stories from self-made promoted users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100307.0)

what! have you just posted for the sake of getting merits while you just mentioned to be careful from those who farm merits to gain ranks so that they could get accepted in Signature campaigns. You whole plan is the most dumbest plan i have ever seen. Like, there was a funny video in which both character planned to rob a bank by working there for 40 years and at the end they planned to take away all the money from the bank once they build their trust in the bank so no body will doubt them.

Maybe you already have watched that video. I mean, really! in order to scam lender first you have to work hard to become Full member or Senior Member or any rank then you are also earning through Signature campaigns and that's the legit money you are earning but at the end you still wanted to loot those lender by running away with the borrowed money. Ok! i accept the plan but how much money can we really make by this method (obviously we means one person). Because this plan sucks (no offense).

They say that if you want to hide something well, then put it in the most visible place. Who knows, OP, maybe this is what you want to tell us today? Maybe now you have laid out your future loan strategy. You want merit, but have you read that you don't have to keep it? But you're not very generous. You do not see worthy posts from other participants? Or maybe you keep them for your other account, which one day will ask for a loan?
And yes, look forward to the next pizza or pumpkin carving contest where you are more talented.

You hope you want to get some merit to go to Full Member with only a small effort thinking about farming accounts and leading to loans and then they run after getting loans, I think your efforts are not enough to go to Full Member as fast as you expect. Need valid evidence to support all of your accusations above. Lenders will not give loans to just anyone, they always work professionally when they want to give loans.
Every now and then you need to stop at a thread that opens a loan service, there not everyone can get a loan even though it has offered a bigger return.

You think the note is not important when other users comment on notes that don't match what you want, tricks like this are common in forums. Instead, you will be grateful when you get a positive response from other users by giving you some merit. Such is life, full of deceit.

I still find it difficult to understand this post. I don't know if it's about account farming, defaulting loan or getting merit. If your aim is to rank up to full member then you have a lot to do despite that you have kick start your journey to full member rank. The "note" under your post is passing a message that you are interested in merit farming just to rank but I don't see that working since you've just publicly declare your intention.

still in the footnotes. Good, continue it

OP, for a lender that gives out a non-colateral loan, he or she already knows that if the borrower refuses to repay their loan, they will be at a loss, so I don't even see the point of making this post because forum lenders know better. They know that what they are doing is a risk and also a business for them, so even before going on with their lending services, I believe they have taken the decision to accept any loss that is incurred.

You promised not to join Signature on this account, but you are on Signature on another account, right? Well, no one will give you all 63 merits at once.

Why will anyone take a loan for trust rating and then default on the loan?
You will be tagged by many users and the trust of the account will be destroyed. Makes more sense to do it just to get some money and repeat with another account, but they can make more if they simply do things right and try to benefit the forum.

No one will send you merit for this. I will advice you take it off and focus on learning more if you want to rank up more.
Majority of your merits were from a pizza contest, now you need to learn from other members and make more constructive posts if you want to rank up.

- Jay -

That's a lot of work and time just to waste it for a couple of hundred dollars that would eventually amount to nothing if you actually stay on the forum and join campaigns for as long as you can.

anyway, yeah, I basically agree with you, Lenders need to be careful when giving loans to others.

Using the acronym MAFIA doesn't align with your post and shouldn't be used since the meaning refers to some specific people and an association. Hence if a person was into bounty hunting and later decides to cheat a lender and run away with their money, it's an Ill treatment but if the person grows an account to legendary just to borrow money and escape it makes no sense and doesn't worth it. Such thread should also be accompanied with proves not only spitting out what's going through your inner mind.

A fair warning but with the recent incident I think lenders on this forum would definitely add some requirement or at least be picky now when it comes to borrowing funds since its really hard to entrust a big money to someone whose reputation is on the line then suddenly be gone. But I doubt some would prefer to lose their account than just a loan money.