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Title: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Coin_trader on July 16, 2023, 05:28:17 AM
Actually, I'm always experiencing event like this even before but I just decided to post this here to find if other user experience this kind of bullshit bad luck situation. I'm playing on evolution gaming most of the time and I have a game like this which I lose consecutively even if I change table or stay.

I'm still lose or draw whenever I have blackjack or 20 while the dealer hand is 6,5,4,3 and 2. What really surprising is they always get a lower card to get a perfect 21 or 20 to beat me or draw. I'm not telling they are rig but this kind of bad luck is really sucks to experience and make me loss my appetite to gamble more.

I decided to immediately stop my game since I knew that this will continue while my temper will be very bad in long run.



Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Jating on July 16, 2023, 06:01:40 AM
Not to bash or anything about Evolution, but based on my experience as well playing in their games in the last month or so, Baccarat either live or first person, same with Evolutions live roulette, lightning and person, I have a string of bad luck with them.

To a point that I think their games is really rigged, just like what you have experience. For Baccarat, sometimes I will have a good hand but eventually will lost the best because the dealer will be dealt with a good card. So right now, I just completely stop playing every game that Evolution has. And thanks for confirming, I thought that I just had this string of bad luck with them.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Gyfts on July 16, 2023, 06:16:48 AM
I only play evolutions table games and haven't had a bad experience. Bad luck is part of the game. Evolution's the gold standard for live dealers IMO. I stay away from side bets, free bet and lighting variations. All of these games raise the house edge. Stick to classic for maximum RTP.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Coin_trader on July 16, 2023, 06:17:48 AM
Not to bash or anything about Evolution, but based on my experience as well playing in their games in the last month or so, Baccarat either live or first person, same with Evolutions live roulette, lightning and person, I have a string of bad luck with them.

To a point that I think their games is really rigged, just like what you have experience. For Baccarat, sometimes I will have a good hand but eventually will lost the best because the dealer will be dealt with a good card. So right now, I just completely stop playing every game that Evolution has. And thanks for confirming, I thought that I just had this string of bad luck with them.

In my case, I’m always experiencing this after having good winnin streak on different day that makes me breakeven in terms of winning percentage but still in lose in terms of PnL because I sometimes extend my budget when losing especially on this streak.

I’m not a player of baccarat and roulette so I can’t share the experience on this game. But on Blackjack, It’s really easy to doubt on the dealers hand since you have no choice to choose side between banker and player.

In conclusion, player should stop playing immediately once this streak occur and try to play again on the other day so that our mind will be fresh for our decision making to be clear. I’m waiting on others experience on this same matter. I’m curious if many here witness this kind of madness.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: danherbias07 on July 16, 2023, 06:24:27 AM
How long was the losing streak? Mostly, it happens in slots only where a player wins big, next to it will be a long losing streak. The same goes with Keno, if you hit the jackpot amount, and then continued the auto bet feature, you will yourself in a long losing streak but it won't be too obvious. They will sometimes give you a win but you won't hit a jackpot anymore.

It's wrong though if it happens in Blackjack too. There's no such thing as big wins there it's only multiplied by 2 or a blackjack bonus. A 20 times losing streak is unforgivable. That takes out the fairness of the game like it's rigged or something. I don't play that game anymore because of that low winning amount. I'd rather stick with games that have jackpot chances, big amounts of winning, and withdraw afterward.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on July 16, 2023, 06:34:04 AM
Actually, I'm always experiencing event like this even before but I just decided to post this here to find if other user experience this kind of bullshit bad luck situation. I'm playing on evolution gaming most of the time and I have a game like this which I lose consecutively even if I change table or stay.

I'm still lose or draw whenever I have blackjack or 20 while the dealer hand is 6,5,4,3 and 2. What really surprising is they always get a lower card to get a perfect 21 or 20 to beat me or draw. I'm not telling they are rig but this kind of bad luck is really sucks to experience and make me loss my appetite to gamble more.

On what sample of times do you base that? Bad luck, or improbable events, happen. And streaks of bad luck too. I'm sure that hasn't happened 1,000 times in a row. More often than not it's happened more times than average, and you remember more of those times because they're more painful than the other times where it was normal (that you won with 20).

I decided to immediately stop my game since I knew that this will continue while my temper will be very bad in long run.

You did well.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: bittraffic on July 16, 2023, 06:36:44 AM
Not to bash or anything about Evolution, but based on my experience as well playing in their games in the last month or so, Baccarat either live or first person, same with Evolutions live roulette, lightning and person, I have a string of bad luck with them.

To a point that I think their games is really rigged, just like what you have experience. For Baccarat, sometimes I will have a good hand but eventually will lost the best because the dealer will be dealt with a good card. So right now, I just completely stop playing every game that Evolution has. And thanks for confirming, I thought that I just had this string of bad luck with them.

In my case, I’m always experiencing this after having good winnin streak on different day that makes me breakeven in terms of winning percentage but still in lose in terms of PnL because I sometimes extend my budget when losing especially on this streak.

I’m not a player of baccarat and roulette so I can’t share the experience on this game. But on Blackjack, It’s really easy to doubt on the dealers hand since you have no choice to choose side between banker and player.

In conclusion, player should stop playing immediately once this streak occur and try to play again on the other day so that our mind will be fresh for our decision making to be clear. I’m waiting on others experience on this same matter. I’m curious if many here witness this kind of madness.

Have you tried another game instead? It always feels like it's rigged for you to lose when it constantly happens. Once you got the winning streaks, you then can expect a losing streak as well in Blackjack. But try another game like Baccarat before the losing streak happens and see if you got that losing streak. And if you do then consider the conclusion that it's really rigged so they can take back the money you won. Don't wait til they got everything from your account though.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Oshosondy on July 16, 2023, 06:40:29 AM
If you set a weekly budget for gambling, losing will not be a problem. The gambling budget should be very small in a way you can afford to lose it and not affecting you in anyway.

I decided to immediately stop my game since I knew that this will continue while my temper will be very bad in long run.
This is the best that you can do for yourself. If you have been losing more than using, stop gambling for that period of time. As for me, I can even take a break for the whole week to renew my mindset towards gambling.

If you are a gambler, the best thing you can do for yourself is to know when to stop gambling and also having a gambling budget that is small enough in a way gambling loss will never be a problem in your life.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Mauser on July 16, 2023, 06:41:44 AM
I'm still lose or draw whenever I have blackjack or 20 while the dealer hand is 6,5,4,3 and 2. What really surprising is they always get a lower card to get a perfect 21 or 20 to beat me or draw. I'm not telling they are rig but this kind of bad luck is really sucks to experience and make me loss my appetite to gamble more.

I decided to immediately stop my game since I knew that this will continue while my temper will be very bad in long run.


This is a really small sample sizes and it would be good to see more of your games to try and help. Assuming that your strategy is optimal I don't understand how you can lose so many times when having 20 or a push with Blackjack. In my experience I rarely see the dealer getting a Blackjack when I have one. With the right strategy in Blackjack we get really close to 50% winning chances, which only gives a small edge to the casino. It's good that you stop when you realise that your mood is changing. We need to keep an close eye on our emotions and don't fall in the habit of chasing losses. Unfortunately there will always be times where we face a losing streak and we need to decide how to deal with it. What I noticed from your bet sizes is that the higher losses go the more you are willing to bet. Maybe you are trying out a martingale strategy to recover? But in such a case your initial bets of $5 seems to big because you get wiped out so fast. Maybe start lower if you want to go up in size with your losses, or stick to your $5 size to recover over time.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Coin_trader on July 16, 2023, 06:53:44 AM
Guys above, I think I didn’t made the purpose of discussion here clear on my post. Apologie for that.

My goal on this topic is more on experience sharing and do survey if someone experience same thing on this provider instead of discussing strategy since this kind of result is just pure random. I'm only sharing how I'm upset when experiencing this situation but that doesn't mean that I don't understand how Blackjack works. I'm playing Blackjack for a long time and encounter many scenario like this.

The screenshot above is my complete game for the day that makes me 1 win and the rest is just draw and lose that makes me stop gambling for the day and share here.

I'm asking for other user that shares experience to get some moral support to boost my bad day. I'm not trying to accuse someone here but just looking for someone experiencing same to think that I'm not alone. This helps me to easily accept my bad experience and move on.  :D


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: _act_ on July 16, 2023, 07:10:19 AM
My goal on this topic is more on experience sharing and do survey if someone experience same thing on this provider instead of discussing strategy since this kind of result is just pure random. I'm only sharing how I'm upset when experiencing this situation but that doesn't mean that I don't understand how Blackjack works. I'm playing Blackjack for a long time and encounter many scenario like this.

The screenshot above is my complete game for the day that makes me 1 win and the rest is just draw and lose that makes me stop gambling for the day and share here.

I'm asking for other user that shares experience to get some moral support to boost my bad day. I'm not trying to accuse someone here but just looking for someone experiencing same to think that I'm not alone. This helps me to easily accept my bad experience and move on.
There are many games to gamble with on gambling sites. For the games that I prefer, Blackjack is not among them, so we can have different results. Since when I have been gambling, I can have a bad day or a good day with little profit or big profit sometimes. But I have not played for that long and continue to lose, also I do not continue to win. I win and lose randomly, but what I looked more for is for the winning to be more than how I am losing.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: len01 on July 16, 2023, 07:30:39 AM
In my case, I’m always experiencing this after having good winnin streak on different day that makes me breakeven in terms of winning percentage but still in lose in terms of PnL because I sometimes extend my budget when losing especially on this streak.
getting a losing streak after getting a winning streak and vice versa. I've had this problem in the past at roulette games.
yes, indeed if you count from the overall percentage it is not worth it and there will definitely be more losses but this is normal for me because in every game you will experience problems like this and I'm sure after your consecutive losing events you will usually win after that. maybe

I've had that problem many times in Evolution and now I've decided to leave the roulette, baccarat and blackjack games and opt for sports betting instead.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: bitbollo on July 16, 2023, 07:36:35 AM
statistically these sequences of huge consecutive streaks are possible, these are part of the gambling experience.

the problem arises from the fact that by "losing" you try to recover and therefore you bet more.
meanwhile during "winning" streak, you try to bet as little as possible because you expect a defeat at any moment!

solution? the first is correct, stop the game.
the second, trying to play a figure that you use only for fun... at this point you don't care if you win or lose...but you play just for fun.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Outhue on July 16, 2023, 07:41:54 AM
Is there any place even if it's thinly in the world of gambling that doesn't bring more bad luck that the good luck? Like I used to say, lets stop deceiving ourselves, either it's Roulette or other, your bad luck will visit you more than good luck, there is nothing anyone can say to me that will change my mind on this fact that I am spilling out right now, it's the most authentic fact about gambling, even any form of gambling.

Gambling is something I do time to time but it's the smallest place I decide to risk some money on, I don't do more than 50$ for gambling, I don't always expect and yes I do lose a lot but still I feel nothing about it because I don't gamble using 50$ per every single day and I don't have a dream of fortune with gambling, I just do it for fun.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 16, 2023, 08:20:45 AM
Is there any place even if it's thinly in the world of gambling that doesn't bring more bad luck that the good luck? Like I used to say, lets stop deceiving ourselves, either it's Roulette or other, your bad luck will visit you more than good luck, there is nothing anyone can say to me that will change my mind on this fact that I am spilling out right now, it's the most authentic fact about gambling, even any form of gambling.

Gambling is something I do time to time but it's the smallest place I decide to risk some money on, I don't do more than 50$ for gambling, I don't always expect and yes I do lose a lot but still I feel nothing about it because I don't gamble using 50$ per every single day and I don't have a dream of fortune with gambling, I just do it for fun.

I think gamblers who loves to take risk with Roulette knows this, just like me. But maybe the issue here that the OP is trying to put is that when he thinks that his chances of winning are high, then he will lost his bet?

What are the chances of using Evolution and then you have a good card at 20, but then again, the dealer gets 21?

Maybe it's not rigged and simply the OP is out of luck, but you have to think on how you are going to lose that one?


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 16, 2023, 08:21:38 AM
Guys above, I think I didn’t made the purpose of discussion here clear on my post. Apologie for that.

My goal on this topic is more on experience sharing and do survey if someone experience same thing on this provider instead of discussing strategy since this kind of result is just pure random. I'm only sharing how I'm upset when experiencing this situation but that doesn't mean that I don't understand how Blackjack works. I'm playing Blackjack for a long time and encounter many scenario like this.

The screenshot above is my complete game for the day that makes me 1 win and the rest is just draw and lose that makes me stop gambling for the day and share here.

I'm asking for other user that shares experience to get some moral support to boost my bad day. I'm not trying to accuse someone here but just looking for someone experiencing same to think that I'm not alone. This helps me to easily accept my bad experience and move on.  :D
If you don't understand how Blackjack works, you need to learn more to play it well to increase your chances of winning. But if you find it difficult to win after you learn, maybe Blackjack is not the gambling game that suits you. You can look for other gambling games that might be more suitable for you so that you can get more wins than when you play Blackjack.

But in your story, you experience something that disappoints you. I don't think you need to be disappointed because, after all, everything depends on your luck in gambling, so you have to be aware of this. Maybe you will be lucky another day.

In addition, you must learn to make a budget for gambling so you don't exceed the limit of your money. Winning and losing in gambling is normal, but if we often experience defeat, that's not normal and there must be something wrong with us. Maybe restrictions on the use of money should be applied to anticipate bigger losses.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Jating on July 16, 2023, 08:25:38 AM
Not to bash or anything about Evolution, but based on my experience as well playing in their games in the last month or so, Baccarat either live or first person, same with Evolutions live roulette, lightning and person, I have a string of bad luck with them.

To a point that I think their games is really rigged, just like what you have experience. For Baccarat, sometimes I will have a good hand but eventually will lost the best because the dealer will be dealt with a good card. So right now, I just completely stop playing every game that Evolution has. And thanks for confirming, I thought that I just had this string of bad luck with them.

In my case, I’m always experiencing this after having good winnin streak on different day that makes me breakeven in terms of winning percentage but still in lose in terms of PnL because I sometimes extend my budget when losing especially on this streak.

I’m not a player of baccarat and roulette so I can’t share the experience on this game. But on Blackjack, It’s really easy to doubt on the dealers hand since you have no choice to choose side between banker and player.

In conclusion, player should stop playing immediately once this streak occur and try to play again on the other day so that our mind will be fresh for our decision making to be clear. I’m waiting on others experience on this same matter. I’m curious if many here witness this kind of madness.

July 1 to be exact, I hit a 500x mulitplier in a lightning Roulette with Evolution. So I immediately withdraw most of the money. And then just play the small amount that is left on my account.

And when I thought that I can continue to have my luck on my side, then I went on a massive losses every time I play.

There are days that I will hit good money at the start, but then again, I felt that the game will do that me so encourage me to bet and wage higher and higher. Anyways, it's just a rant on my side regarding the game provider. So now I totally move out of playing or using Evolution for now.

I think it's the same with Baccarat, you just have to bet on Banker and Player. Of course, there are side bets but mostly it's like 1:1 game.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Kemarit on July 16, 2023, 09:00:03 AM
Guys above, I think I didn’t made the purpose of discussion here clear on my post. Apologie for that.

My goal on this topic is more on experience sharing and do survey if someone experience same thing on this provider instead of discussing strategy since this kind of result is just pure random. I'm only sharing how I'm upset when experiencing this situation but that doesn't mean that I don't understand how Blackjack works. I'm playing Blackjack for a long time and encounter many scenario like this.

The screenshot above is my complete game for the day that makes me 1 win and the rest is just draw and lose that makes me stop gambling for the day and share here.

I'm asking for other user that shares experience to get some moral support to boost my bad day. I'm not trying to accuse someone here but just looking for someone experiencing same to think that I'm not alone. This helps me to easily accept my bad experience and move on.  :D
If you don't understand how Blackjack works, you need to learn more to play it well to increase your chances of winning. But if you find it difficult to win after you learn, maybe Blackjack is not the gambling game that suits you. You can look for other gambling games that might be more suitable for you so that you can get more wins than when you play Blackjack.

But in your story, you experience something that disappoints you. I don't think you need to be disappointed because, after all, everything depends on your luck in gambling, so you have to be aware of this. Maybe you will be lucky another day.

In addition, you must learn to make a budget for gambling so you don't exceed the limit of your money. Winning and losing in gambling is normal, but if we often experience defeat, that's not normal and there must be something wrong with us. Maybe restrictions on the use of money should be applied to anticipate bigger losses.

For sure the OP knows and understand how Blackjack works and most likely this is one of his favorite because the chances for you to win is huge.

But nevertheless, you can't take a way that from the OP that he is somewhat questioning the possible outcome of his game. How he lose a good one? hard to fathom as this is online game. Although we can check if it is provably fair, but what the hell, you feel safe with your bet and already thinking of winning and then boom, dealer gets 21 and you are devastated by the outcome that you feel it was rigged by the operators.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Adbitco on July 16, 2023, 09:01:21 AM
This is a very bad experience but alternatively to me they are some of the things that sum up to the characteristics of gambling because you hit a winning when you don't expect it. But what I really like about your courage is that you wanna control it by reduce the way you gamble and not attaching much emotion to it otherwise it would surely affects your acts of reasoning and behavior due to much lost. And I know whatever that affect the brain is partially affecting all your activities.
I know there are some people who lost more than this but never showed it up because it kills the passion for gambling that is, if the person is not an addict gambler.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Coin_trader on July 16, 2023, 09:52:32 AM
Not to bash or anything about Evolution, but based on my experience as well playing in their games in the last month or so, Baccarat either live or first person, same with Evolutions live roulette, lightning and person, I have a string of bad luck with them.

To a point that I think their games is really rigged, just like what you have experience. For Baccarat, sometimes I will have a good hand but eventually will lost the best because the dealer will be dealt with a good card. So right now, I just completely stop playing every game that Evolution has. And thanks for confirming, I thought that I just had this string of bad luck with them.

In my case, I’m always experiencing this after having good winnin streak on different day that makes me breakeven in terms of winning percentage but still in lose in terms of PnL because I sometimes extend my budget when losing especially on this streak.

I’m not a player of baccarat and roulette so I can’t share the experience on this game. But on Blackjack, It’s really easy to doubt on the dealers hand since you have no choice to choose side between banker and player.

In conclusion, player should stop playing immediately once this streak occur and try to play again on the other day so that our mind will be fresh for our decision making to be clear. I’m waiting on others experience on this same matter. I’m curious if many here witness this kind of madness.

July 1 to be exact, I hit a 500x mulitplier in a lightning Roulette with Evolution. So I immediately withdraw most of the money. And then just play the small amount that is left on my account.

And when I thought that I can continue to have my luck on my side, then I went on a massive losses every time I play.

There are days that I will hit good money at the start, but then again, I felt that the game will do that me so encourage me to bet and wage higher and higher. Anyways, it's just a rant on my side regarding the game provider. So now I totally move out of playing or using Evolution for now.

I think it's the same with Baccarat, you just have to bet on Banker and Player. Of course, there are side bets but mostly it's like 1:1 game.

This is what I’m talking about, I’m winning big time too on other day of my game but in different evolution gaming games, most of the time on crazy time and dead or alive. Thenafter a few days off on gambling, I realized that my account has a very low win rate especially on Blackjack which I supposed to have a 50/50 chance of winning since I play with advance strategy here. But guess what, All the odds is in favor against me no matter how strong my card is.

I sometimes feel that Evo mark my account when I’m on profit to give me a low win chance rate to any table that I sit. But of course this just my assumption due to my upset.  :D

Are you on green or red side with your total PnL?

If you don't understand how Blackjack works, you need to learn more to play it well to increase your chances of winning. But if you find it difficult to win after you learn, maybe Blackjack is not the gambling game that suits you. You can look for other gambling games that might be more suitable for you so that you can get more wins than when you play Blackjack.

Men, My oxygen is Blackjack already for I am playing this game most of the time. I'm also very well versed on Blackjack strategy or card counting on a regular deck without continuous shuffling method. I also have a good bankroll management.

I'm feeling upset on my lose but that doesn't mean I can't afford to lose it.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: GreatArkansas on July 16, 2023, 10:16:55 AM
I decided to immediately stop my game since I knew that this will continue while my temper will be very bad in long run.
(....)
Pure luck! It's not your day.
It's just a good thing you stopped which will help you to calm down and not play with your emotion, never chase loss with your emotion is not stable.
Changing the table is a good act to reset some luck like this but then again, you already said it, and it's still not working. So try again on another day would be better.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Kakmakr on July 16, 2023, 11:57:00 AM
I also get this with side bets.... and it feels like this is happening more often with Evolution. The thing is.... if this is rigged, how do you prove that? You posted only a small portion of all your bets..... have you actually looked at this over a longer period.... or is this just a small losing streak?

In cases like this, gamblers do not have enough in-side information to prove that it is rigged or not... so nobody does anything about this. The casino and other players usually says the gambler is butthurt about his or her losses and that it why they are pointing fingers at the casino for being rigged.  ::)


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Blitzboy on July 16, 2023, 12:19:16 PM
It takes me back to my younger self, when I felt like I was attracting only bad luck. But hey, thats just the way the game is. You know how some days you feel like the statue and other days like the pigeon? Too much time spent as a statue, it seems. Recognizing when to withdraw is a sensible move. Know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em, as the saying goes. A bad losing streak can really put a damper on your gambling experience.



Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Josefjix on July 16, 2023, 01:02:46 PM
Pure luck! It's not your day.
It's just a good thing you stopped which will help you to calm down and not play with your emotion, never chase loss with your emotion is not stable.
Changing the table is a good act to reset some luck like this but then again, you already said it, and it's still not working. So try again on another day would be better.

The system is all about risks, we take risks inother to win or loss. That's the simple fact about the system, always ready to face the worst results. Observing the game, he's really unlucky. Facts, if he is unsuccessful today, he can try again tomorrow; nothing is guaranteed about what the gambling system has in store for us. I agree with your suggestion; the OP should slow down since his emotions could grow unsteady, complicating the whole system, and games based on revenge do not have a positive outcome. If he is fresh to the system, it will have a significant impact on him.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Yatsan on July 16, 2023, 01:45:08 PM
Whenever I'm on a lose streak, I am taking a break or pause either from gmbling activities or to a specific game. Pushing our luck won't do us good for sure. Losses will just get bigger by doing so, as we all know. There are just bad days and we should not let our emotions play for us. Rest easy and do other things for now to somehow entertain oneself and void being frustrated with losses. Also the same reason why I have moved from card games to sportsbetting in order to compensate losses with entertainment from the sports I like. But since we do have different preferences, you may choose your alternative if you consider doing the same thing.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Eternad on July 16, 2023, 02:15:53 PM
In cases like this, gamblers do not have enough in-side information to prove that it is rigged or not... so nobody does anything about this. The casino and other players usually says the gambler is butthurt about his or her losses and that it why they are pointing fingers at the casino for being rigged.  ::)

I have same bad experience on Evolution games butI’m not complaining because I’m afraid to be labeled as butthurt. Sometimes their game result is questionable in terms of the result probability to happened that happening frequently.

I agree that it’s very hard to prove that they are rigged because no one will believe you since there’s no hard proof aside from speculation. Taking a break from this provider is our choice if we feel that something is wrong or just deal with it by ignoring that negative speculation. In my case, I decrease my play time with this providera lot.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: ralle14 on July 17, 2023, 12:29:21 AM
That's how a few of my blackjack sessions go as well, I can't forget this one session where I started with several losses, but I was using a fixed bet size, so my bankroll was still okay after taking a beating. I continued playing to see how far I could push my luck and it took me a couple of hours before I got back to my starting point. I also switch to a different table in hopes of getting better cards, but they're not that effective because it still depends on luck or timing, as the other players beside you could be the ones getting the good cards.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: yahoo62278 on July 17, 2023, 12:47:03 AM
I watch a streamer who regularly takes a 2k balance and runs it up to 4-5k on evolution blackjack. Not every day, but 2-3 times a week he accomplishes this. Are you playing correctly? For example A6 for you vs dealer showing a 8 9 or 10 is a hit everytime. If you get 16 and dealer is showing a 10 do you hit that? It's a hit everytime. soft 18 vs dealer 10 is a hit as well.

Maybe brush up on your blackjack strategy and make sure you are playing correct. You also need to leave a table if you see multiple players playing incorrectly. Not hitting 14s 15s or 16s or hitting 14 vs dealer 5 or whatnot. They're gonna cost you alot of money playing bad.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 17, 2023, 05:15:36 AM
For sure the OP knows and understand how Blackjack works and most likely this is one of his favorite because the chances for you to win is huge.

But nevertheless, you can't take a way that from the OP that he is somewhat questioning the possible outcome of his game. How he lose a good one? hard to fathom as this is online game. Although we can check if it is provably fair, but what the hell, you feel safe with your bet and already thinking of winning and then boom, dealer gets 21 and you are devastated by the outcome that you feel it was rigged by the operators.
He can check the game if he wants. But that's gambling, there is a luck factor that we shouldn't forget and when we often lose, that means maybe we haven't been lucky. I often experience this in other gambling games, say slot games. I used a few dollars there but the results were not good because I lost. And the other day, I tried playing dice and it didn't work out that well either. I tried again to play sports betting, but it also made me lose again. I felt something was wrong with the casino but at another moment, I realized it was gambling. We can't always win. There must be times when we lose, whether losing a lot or a little.

Men, My oxygen is Blackjack already for I am playing this game most of the time. I'm also very well versed on Blackjack strategy or card counting on a regular deck without continuous shuffling method. I also have a good bankroll management.

I'm feeling upset on my lose but that doesn't mean I can't afford to lose it.
Yes, it is okay. Maybe it's because luck is not with you. Don't think about it too much because it is a gamble. Some won and some lost. I'm sure you can win again another day. Maybe you need to rest a bit after the last game. Resting for a few days may be necessary; your luck will come after you rest. If that happens, you should give me a tip hahaha ;D


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Kemarit on July 17, 2023, 10:02:13 AM
For sure the OP knows and understand how Blackjack works and most likely this is one of his favorite because the chances for you to win is huge.

But nevertheless, you can't take a way that from the OP that he is somewhat questioning the possible outcome of his game. How he lose a good one? hard to fathom as this is online game. Although we can check if it is provably fair, but what the hell, you feel safe with your bet and already thinking of winning and then boom, dealer gets 21 and you are devastated by the outcome that you feel it was rigged by the operators.
He can check the game if he wants. But that's gambling, there is a luck factor that we shouldn't forget and when we often lose, that means maybe we haven't been lucky. I often experience this in other gambling games, say slot games. I used a few dollars there but the results were not good because I lost. And the other day, I tried playing dice and it didn't work out that well either. I tried again to play sports betting, but it also made me lose again. I felt something was wrong with the casino but at another moment, I realized it was gambling. We can't always win. There must be times when we lose, whether losing a lot or a little.

Men, My oxygen is Blackjack already for I am playing this game most of the time. I'm also very well versed on Blackjack strategy or card counting on a regular deck without continuous shuffling method. I also have a good bankroll management.

I'm feeling upset on my lose but that doesn't mean I can't afford to lose it.
Yes, it is okay. Maybe it's because luck is not with you. Don't think about it too much because it is a gamble. Some won and some lost. I'm sure you can win again another day. Maybe you need to rest a bit after the last game. Resting for a few days may be necessary; your luck will come after you rest. If that happens, you should give me a tip hahaha ;D

I check it myself not with Blackjack though, I play with the live roullette that Evolution had. I will admit that I didn't bet first, I just try to observed how the game is going, I mean are there patterns that I might see and possible that it has been rigged.

Fortunately, I just used small money, I'll probably just had some luck on it as I also won some money.

I will try next BlackJack next time although I know the game, but I'm not feeling confident about so that's why I did the test with myself with the roullette.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Casdinyard on July 17, 2023, 12:38:50 PM
Actually, I'm always experiencing event like this even before but I just decided to post this here to find if other user experience this kind of bullshit bad luck situation. I'm playing on evolution gaming most of the time and I have a game like this which I lose consecutively even if I change table or stay.

I'm still lose or draw whenever I have blackjack or 20 while the dealer hand is 6,5,4,3 and 2. What really surprising is they always get a lower card to get a perfect 21 or 20 to beat me or draw. I'm not telling they are rig but this kind of bad luck is really sucks to experience and make me loss my appetite to gamble more.

I decided to immediately stop my game since I knew that this will continue while my temper will be very bad in long run.

Never really had a bad experience with them when I was playing back then, and even the losses didn't really strike to me as them stacking the odds against me if you know what I'm saying. I would say it's all just in the luck of your draw as well as your strat too. I would highly suggest you lessen changing seats and all that cause blackjack, more than a card game is a game of maths, and you switching seats and all that (at least in my opinion) ruins your best chances at getting the win you want. Plus it even aggravates you cause you're out there thinking you're changing something to give you better odds only for you to be miserably disappointed when it didn't work on your favor.

Or you can take a breather just like what you're trying to do now. That works too.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Negotiation on July 17, 2023, 12:48:43 PM
Many gamblers have been beaten by draws but don't see anything to be disappointed because gambling wins and losses usually depend on luck. Blackjack can now be found in all casinos worldwide. It is not uncommon to find different game variations under the same roof. This variant of blackjack has side bets and no special rules as found in most online casinos. So according to that the classic version of the game is the best option for those who are just starting out. Have to rest for a few days and start with good luck and victory is possible. Due to the popularity of the game blackjack, it is only natural that there are many different variations of it.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: swogerino on July 17, 2023, 12:53:26 PM
Playing Blackjack in online casinos is very dangerous in the sense that they are software controlled and honestly human beings can only win against such software when the software alone is fine tuned to let you win.That is why it is better to try your luck in games that you know that are programmed against you like the slot machines but that you are trying your luck there trying to be in a spin where the max win will follow rather than playing Blackjack.

In games like roulette I feel the same as you,in Blackjack the same as you and that is why I even quit slots nowadays in favor of only sport betting,I know the casino cannot do much to influence the outcome of a certain event.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: abel1337 on July 17, 2023, 01:23:18 PM
I don't have any bad experience on playing on Evolution. Maybe it's the frustration you have why you made this post because to be honest, if this happens to me regularly, I will be annoyed too and start questioning the involved parties just like what you did but yeah I believe it's only a bad luck why this happened to you. Even we have a natural or blackjack, it isn't a guarantee win and sometimes I think we are getting played by being excited of the high potential win that we are expecting.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Sim_card on July 17, 2023, 02:32:01 PM
. I'm playing on evolution gaming most of the time and I have a game like this which I lose consecutively even if I change table or stay.
I also play evolution games but I don't loss all the time,I win and loss. This shows that you are not on your lucky day because when you don't have luck,no matter what strategy that you come up with,you will keep on losing.

I decided to immediately stop my game since I knew that this will continue while my temper will be very bad in long run.
This is the best approach to your losses by stopping to enable you not lose all your bankroll on the game. Gamble only for fun so that whatever the outcome of your bet is you wouldn't have a bad temper. If you are not lucky today,it is better you stop and play again tomorrow. Who knows maybe tomorrow will be a lucky day for you.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: darkangel11 on July 17, 2023, 03:03:50 PM
I had that a few times where you have 20 and think you can't lose and they get 21 and next hand you get 21 and they get it as well... I don't like playing BJ online. I have much better luck playing with someone at home, or in a larger group at a party. When I play BJ online it's always some stupid shit like I get low cards, so I keep drawing, and once I hit 12 I get instant 10 and lose :D Just my luck I guess.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Beparanf on July 17, 2023, 04:36:31 PM

I'm still lose or draw whenever I have blackjack or 20 while the dealer hand is 6,5,4,3 and 2. What really surprising is they always get a lower card to get a perfect 21 or 20 to beat me or draw. I'm not telling they are rig but this kind of bad luck is really sucks to experience and make me loss my appetite to gamble more.

I never encounter this streak on my long experience playing in Evo BJ. But I watch many clips like this on my favorite streamer that play Blackjack. They keep saying the game was rigged since all of their cards got destroyed with a low chance 20 and 21 dealer card from multiple low value card of dealer.

If you think about it, You experienced this kind of cards too when you are winning against the dealer. You just didn’t notice it because you win but you definitely have those kind of cards which you beat the 20 of dealer with your bounce back 21 and 20.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: rahmad2nd on July 17, 2023, 09:03:12 PM
Not to bash or anything about Evolution, but based on my experience as well playing in their games in the last month or so, Baccarat either live or first person, same with Evolutions live roulette, lightning and person, I have a string of bad luck with them.

To a point that I think their games is really rigged, just like what you have experience. For Baccarat, sometimes I will have a good hand but eventually will lost the best because the dealer will be dealt with a good card. So right now, I just completely stop playing every game that Evolution has. And thanks for confirming, I thought that I just had this string of bad luck with them.

It's only natural, if we have thoughts like the ones we discuss in this thread. I often bet on live casino. As for Blackjack I'm not really into this game, maybe just do it when I get bored with other games. but for Baccarat, this type of game has always been very interesting for me personally. imagine, like a very easy game for us to win. but in reality, it's not uncommon for our balance to be drained during a gambling session. So, don't we all have the same series of bad luck experiences.

So it would be very natural if you say, that it looks like the dealer is doing something fraudulent. fellow Baccarat players, of course we understand very well how this game works. The problem is, if the dealer does something fraudulent. however, it's not just us who are playing. there were plenty of other gamblers there too, even choosing to bet on different stakes than us. well there is no other word, other than to say that we are not lucky.
By the way, the trick I like to do in this game is playing fast game. only three times, multiply all wins. after that, stop. if unlucky, just end the game to avoid harming ourselves even more.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: seleme on July 17, 2023, 09:11:52 PM
I mostly suggest trying live Blackjack games instead of wasting time on original BJ on house-listed games, the chances are higher because of the decks. On house BJ, it is undefined decks so it lowers our chance to win and logically many draws happen. That feeling comes after a few draw hands and you only stress after each game session, try live blackjack to feel the difference in odds, IMO.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: ryzaadit on July 17, 2023, 09:16:58 PM
This is just a normal situation with gambler.

It's always like that, people always thinking "that's impossible to happen". Example like you get 21 face card dealer is 10, based of the percentage the dealer win in around 3-5%. Guess what? second card is the ace (BJ).

My main advice, If you running bad especially on BJ: 2 Reason (Shoe, and player) always play optimal & If you got heat section, keep playing or maybe double the bet and maximum your profit don't stack or running until you lose.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on July 17, 2023, 09:25:22 PM
Yeahh ...it happens mostimes.
That could possibly be the reasons why some peeps don't even wanna stake games based on the team's capability... They feel it's better to concentrate on calling out games on raffles and wagering 'em coupon codes just so it cuts. These set of people also feel gambling isn't by how much you know, buh by how much luck you've got to gamble.
That's the same reasons ion like playing on poker games at all... The acey-deucey was most preferred back then by alot... Buh it seems the system has much more control over the cards than the players does.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 18, 2023, 04:56:58 AM
I check it myself not with Blackjack though, I play with the live roullette that Evolution had. I will admit that I didn't bet first, I just try to observed how the game is going, I mean are there patterns that I might see and possible that it has been rigged.

Fortunately, I just used small money, I'll probably just had some luck on it as I also won some money.

I will try next BlackJack next time although I know the game, but I'm not feeling confident about so that's why I did the test with myself with the roullette.
I may try to check it out someday. But I don't really understand Blackjack and maybe I'll just play it casually.

But maybe I won't find anything suspicious. Maybe only people who really understand the game of Blackjack will know if there is cheating from the dealer or if there is a pattern that they do, so they keep winning.

Maybe it's better if I try to learn Blackjack to find out if something is suspicious or not in the game.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Pierre 2 on July 18, 2023, 06:18:20 AM
I feel like at that point where you get doubtful and sad it's time to stop and try gamble different. I also think your losing streak there looks bitter. I always feel like some casinos may mess with soft spot they seek with customers. If house always wins they wouldn't find more people to play because everyone will be frustrated and leave. So if i were you I would already do that. They should develop their service to gain more customers.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: borovichok on July 18, 2023, 06:52:02 AM
I feel like at that point where you get doubtful and sad it's time to stop and try gamble different. I also think your losing streak there looks bitter. I always feel like some casinos may mess with soft spot they seek with customers. If house always wins they wouldn't find more people to play because everyone will be frustrated and leave. So if i were you I would already do that. They should develop their service to gain more customers.
No doubts, we have to grab good chances of the generating more money. When the system is not in your favour, instead of wasting more time to gamble something that would keep draining your finance, the best option is to quit for that day and wait for another opportunity to strive into the system. Furthermore, not every day is predicted for us to earn, rather we stick to our strategy and plan for another day, new opportunities are always avaliable in the system. Watching the whole losing streak, very disappointing results to witnessed, but never to give up and give 100% energy to the hustle.


Title: Re: When you feels like only draw is your win on Blackjack
Post by: Coin_trader on July 18, 2023, 02:32:49 PM
I feel like at that point where you get doubtful and sad it's time to stop and try gamble different. I also think your losing streak there looks bitter. I always feel like some casinos may mess with soft spot they seek with customers. If house always wins they wouldn't find more people to play because everyone will be frustrated and leave. So if i were you I would already do that. They should develop their service to gain more customers.

I literally stop after noticing the pattern of lose streak with only 1 win if you can read the bottom part of my post. I'm not trying to accused the provider as riggedor something. The purpose of this thread which I keep repeting is to survey if other people experiencing same pattern when gambling because this is frustrating event.

Yet what I keep receiving is a lesson which I didn’t ask and obviously not what I'm looking forward when I start this discussion. Nevertheless this is gambling board after all and I'm still thankful to find some decent response.