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Title: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: EL MOHA on July 19, 2023, 11:48:36 AM
I have found and read through numerous threads on the forum about the spreading of bitcoin awareness and adoption by many forum members. Two of the widely used methods from this threads that I have read are; Class room teachings and using bitcoin as a payment method for ones business. This is a great way to increase bitcoin adoption spread to others, but isn’t this done at the detriment of the advocate’s safety and privacy?

One of the main aim of bitcoin from its inception by satoshi is not just to protect our money but also to protect the user. Therefore by spreading bitcoin awareness in countries or communities that it’s government are against it, should be done cautiously. Because once the government decides to take strict actions against the users, some of the advocates that spread it publicly or use it in their businesses will easily be traced and could be convicted for breaking the law, and I don’t think even Satoshi will appreciate that.

I feel like bitcoin should be spread in these kind of communities secretly and cautiously to avoid exposing our privacy and hampering our security. It should only be thought to people that show interest and not going to schools to teach them because that is like breaking the laws of the community or country, and bitcoin or Satoshi himself is not have law breakers or criminals as it’s users or advocates just like how the media and government portrays it.

So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Fiatless on July 19, 2023, 12:12:00 PM
So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.
In some countries, if you tell people that you own bitcoin, they will think that you are rich. Such individuals might immediately be a soft target of criminals. As Op said, there is a need to uphold security and privacy. There is no need to engage in open bitcoin awareness in a country where the coin is banned. Some of these laws forbid not only the use of Bitcoin but the spread of information that promotes it. Engaging in bitcoin awareness in such an area is dangerous and could lead to severe punishment.

We are encouraged to engage in the promotion of bitcoin but it should be done considering the laws of the land. And bitcoin education is not by force but by choice. Bitcoin awareness and adoption will keep growing as the currency becomes more influential in the global financial system.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on July 19, 2023, 12:13:02 PM
This is a great way to increase bitcoin adoption spread to others, but isn’t this done at the detriment of the advocate’s safety and privacy?
Of course the one who will share this must already been secured his safety and privacy in a sense that they knew about bitcoin wallet and how to protect it from scams and been stufied the private key and related security purposes.

Some have engage in bitcoin thru trading so likely they are people whom suggest a cex and thats normal since thats what they knew, they heard, they learn and etc. We cant really make it 100% uniform for everyone how they gonna spread bitcoin but since we are in forum we can explain to them what we knew and its up to them to understand and implement whats best for them.

At least we did our part.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: icalical on July 19, 2023, 12:31:50 PM
I don't know where you live right now OP, but in my country owning Bitcoin is not a crime, it's currently legal to own a bitcoin here, as long as you don't use it as a currency. Centralize exchange are free to advertise their platform and to give proper education about bitcoin and crypto, so there is no need of secrecy to discuss bitcoin.

I wish anywhere you live, you will be able to discuss and buy Bitcoin freely very soon.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Dunamisx on July 19, 2023, 01:04:49 PM
Two of the widely used methods from this threads that I have read are; Class room teachings and using bitcoin as a payment method for ones business. This is a great way to increase bitcoin adoption spread to others, but isn’t this done at the detriment of the advocate’s safety and privacy?

How is teaching others matters to your bitcoin privacy, if you need to teach others then it's your own personal obligations to ensure that the environment you're using allows for that and the government does not kicked against bitcoin or cryptocurrency in that your country, you teach people or not, bitcoin is fast moving in adoption and cannot be stopped, not even the government, if you choose to let people know you're into bitcoin, that's your personal decision and that doesn't increase or reduce where bitcoin has gone to as at today, don't also accept bitcoin for your payment if your government banned it uses in your country, but if you completely understand how you can go private with bitcoin transaction then you can accept and don't make it public.

So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First.

The security begins with the kind of wallet you used, it must be decentralized and not a centralized online wallet, we must not advertise ourselves for what we do when there's a regulation against it from the governing authorities, then we must know to take security measures very important without the intruding of a third party in knowing our security measures or keys.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Plaguedeath on July 19, 2023, 01:08:47 PM
Teaching Bitcoin to everyone isn't a crime! people who don't like Bitcoin can leave, no one force you to sit down until the teacher out. It's different if your country declare buy, sell and hold Bitcoin is a crime, anything connected with Bitcoin is crime, not only teach to other.

Although I always said privacy and security are very important, but it's up to each person. Bitcoin is an asset, one of your wealth. Publicity yourself if you have Bitcoin surely attract criminals, but there are many people don't care about it because they want to become popular and get paid by exposing their privacy.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Lakai01 on July 19, 2023, 01:09:20 PM
I don't know where you live right now OP, but in my country owning Bitcoin is not a crime, it's currently legal to own a bitcoin here, as long as you don't use it as a currency.

Officially, Bitcoin is allowed as a legal tender only in the following countries:

https://i.postimg.cc/C1ddpc3H/screenshot-214.png (https://postimages.org/)
Source (https://coinmarketcap.com/legal-tender-countries/)

However, a large number of countries (e.g. here in Europe) support Bitcoin as an indirect means of payment via crypto-credit cards. For example, you load an account with a payment provider (Bitpanda, ...) with cryptos of your choice and receive a card with which you can officially pay - at least where credit cards are accepted. If you are interested, here you can find the description of the Bitpanda crypto card: https://www.bitpanda.com/en/card




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So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.

I think this really only applies to countries where the possession of Bitcoin is officially prohibited. In these countries, however, any (technical) adaptation of (blockchain) services will probably be banned immediately. I am afraid that in the countries concerned, the legislative possibility must first be created in order to be able to think about an adaptation of cryptocurrencies in the broad mass.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: UchihaSarada on July 19, 2023, 01:39:52 PM
Class room teachings and using bitcoin as a payment method for ones business. This is a great way to increase bitcoin adoption spread to others, but isn’t this done at the detriment of the advocate’s safety and privacy?
If you want privacy, don't show your face in classrooms or stores to advertise Bitcoin and tell others that you are a Bitcoin investor. When you do it, you sacrifice your privacy to be a Bitcoin ambassador.

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One of the main aim of bitcoin from its inception by satoshi is not just to protect our money but also to protect the user. Therefore by spreading bitcoin awareness in countries or communities that it’s government are against it, should be done cautiously. Because once the government decides to take strict actions against the users, some of the advocates that spread it publicly or use it in their businesses will easily be traced and could be convicted for breaking the law, and I don’t think even Satoshi will appreciate that.
If you are living in a country with such restrictions against Bitcoin. If you see risk to be in jail by such activities, don't do that. If in your country, there are grey areas that you can do without risk to be put into jail, you can do it but breaking laws is bad because you will not know how government will knock your doors and do any lawsuit or arrest against you.

Because a bigger influence you have in your country, you will be known more by governmental radars and they will know more about your activities. You will appear in their Watch List and they will always have chance to catch you.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Jon_Hodl on July 19, 2023, 01:40:56 PM
I totally agree that we should be quiet about how we spread bitcoin awareness but I also feel like we have a sort of responsibility in more developed nations where we enjoy higher levels of civil liberties to produce educational content to help those to use tools that enable people to use bitcoin in a more covert manner.

I do all I can to direct people to use privacy-focused tools but it will take time to get all of them translated into languages in countries that are commonly spoken in parts of the world without the level of freedom that we have in the more developed world.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: RiverBoy on July 19, 2023, 03:06:04 PM
That's true, Bitcoin creation is still unknown person, has hide identity because of the security reasons, like wise the user has to keep some certain things secret accept when people around developed interest, since the government still against Bitcoin can't stop Bitcoin exist as long internet is functioning no one can stop Bitcoin business.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: sokani on July 19, 2023, 05:17:10 PM
I think it has to do with your country and the nature of the ban. Taking my country as an example, the CBN instructed all commercial banks to freeze bank accounts of individuals linked with crypto activities, but it didn't say it's a crime for holding Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies in my wallet. There's no law stating that I would be arrested for wearing a Bitcoin branded tshirt, using a Bitcoin sticker on my car, accepting Bitcoin as payment in my local business, or hosting a crypto seminar. So looking at it from the legal point of view I cannot be arrested and I don't think anyone as been arrested for the above mentioned.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Japinat on July 19, 2023, 08:56:17 PM
This is a great way to increase bitcoin adoption spread to others, but isn’t this done at the detriment of the advocate’s safety and privacy?
Of course the one who will share this must already been secured his safety and privacy in a sense that they knew about bitcoin wallet and how to protect it from scams and been stufied the private key and related security purposes.

Some have engage in bitcoin thru trading so likely they are people whom suggest a cex and thats normal since thats what they knew, they heard, they learn and etc. We cant really make it 100% uniform for everyone how they gonna spread bitcoin but since we are in forum we can explain to them what we knew and its up to them to understand and implement whats best for them.

At least we did our part.
Spreading awareness about bitcoin need not to be risky that will eventually put your own security at risk. Just do your part at your own comfort as you can never convince people to believe about bitcoin forcing them to learn especially when their concern is not to break the law made by the government. In fact, this forum alone is a good outlet to spread awareness as we welcome a lot of newbies that are interested to learn about bitcoin and how  it can be used in the real world.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: CryptSafe on July 19, 2023, 09:29:58 PM
At first before spreading the awareness of bitcoin in your country, you must know your country law and regulations if it support bitcoin transaction first before getting involved in awareness campaign publicly because doing such without having knowledge about it might put you in danger so it would be nice you do it within your nearest community, environment, locality in a cool and calm way so nobody would come after you while promoting and creating bitcoin awareness.
I think one should consider his or her safety when doing things and as such should apply caution so as to avoid government issues.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Ndabagi01 on July 19, 2023, 09:34:26 PM
So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.

Bitcoin has undoubtedly paved the route for itself over the years, and this can be as a result of its widespread use throughout the world in general; it doesn't matter the means of sharing, but the information it is passing is more significant. You have a valid point, however I believe it is dependent on the country in which you choose to participate in teaching others. Other extensive adoptions can be accomplished by creating videos on YouTube; nevertheless, I do not believe this will produce much insecurity to the teacher online.


I don't know where you live right now OP, but in my country owning Bitcoin is not a crime, it's currently legal to own a bitcoin here, as long as you don't use it as a currency.

Wow, I'm shocked your country will not allow you to use bitcoin as a currency, which was the main reason it was founded before all other purposes.  Being used as a store of value is still acceptable, but not being acknowledged as a currency makes its use in your country appear unjust to me.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Issa56 on July 19, 2023, 10:02:25 PM
One of the main aim of bitcoin from its inception by satoshi is not just to protect our money but also to protect the user. Therefore by spreading bitcoin awareness in countries or communities that its government are against it, should be done cautiously.
If you know that bitcoin is illegal in your country then you have to avoid public awareness because you are just trying to cause problem for yourself, no one is asking anyone to get into problem just because you are trying to create awareness, their are lots of ways which you can create awareness and you won’t make it public. If you are introducing bitcoin to your friends and family members  that’s also awareness and you don’t have gather crowd to do that.

Because once the government decides to take strict actions against the users, some of the advocates that spread it publicly or use it in their businesses will easily be traced and could be convicted for breaking the law, and I don’t think even Satoshi will appreciate that.
If you know that bitcoin is not allowed in your country, then you should accept bitcoin publicly, you might be accepted maybe if a well known customer comes to your store, someone you know can’t report you, but you can’t just see someone newly and you start proposing to the person to pay you with bitcoin, then you might get into problem. If you are from a country that bitcoin is not accepted, we have to do everything possible to avoid getting into problem with the government.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Gallar on July 20, 2023, 10:16:22 AM
I have found and read through numerous threads on the forum about the spreading of bitcoin awareness and adoption by many forum members. Two of the widely used methods from this threads that I have read are; Class room teachings and using bitcoin as a payment method for ones business. This is a great way to increase bitcoin adoption spread to others, but isn’t this done at the detriment of the advocate’s safety and privacy?
It all depends on the rules or laws that exist in the country where the teaching of bitcoin takes place. Because if the teaching place is carried out by opening open classes, and for example the rules in that country strictly prohibit bitcoin. It is certain that if the person who opened the bitcoin class gets caught by the government, they will definitely be given sanctions or penalties according to the rules in that country.

But if, for example, you open a bitcoin class in a country where by law and the law does not prohibit bitcoins, it is certain that from a legal perspective, it will be safe. So in essence it all depends on the rules and laws that exist where the teaching of bitcoin is carried out.

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So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.
The issue of security must definitely be prioritized when opening a teaching about bitcoin. Because the spread of bitcoin always raises pros and cons, because bitcoin still sounds foreign to some people. So it's not just a matter of rules and laws that must be considered. But the matter of views, and the reactions of the people around must also be taken into account. Because if the results of the spread of bitcoin awareness bear negative results among the people around, it is certain that people's views will change towards the person who teaches bitcoin.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: hugeblack on July 20, 2023, 10:51:10 AM
You mentioned an important aspect, which is privacy, but are the laws applied retroactively[1], meaning if you were in a country and suddenly decided to ban bitcoin, then you will be given a period to stop trading in bitcoin, otherwise what legal basis will you be prosecuted?
Some of those who are being tried do so by anti-money laundering laws, illegal purchases or tax evasion. Therefore, if you intend to do thousands of dollars in trade, it is almost impossible to hide your identity, and therefore hiring a lawyer specialized in financial affairs is the best option than hiding your identity. Either if you are an ordinary trader who wants to buy bitcoin to avoid inflation or for personal reasons, enhancing your privacy is at least important to avoid being a target for hackers.

[1] https://legalresponse.org/legaladvice/941/#:~:text=A%20retroactive%20statute%20operates%20as,respect%20of%20a%20past%20event.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: CryptSafe on July 20, 2023, 10:53:58 AM
One of the main aim of bitcoin from its inception by satoshi is not just to protect our money but also to protect the user. Therefore by spreading bitcoin awareness in countries or communities that its government are against it, should be done cautiously.
If you know that bitcoin is illegal in your country then you have to avoid public awareness because you are just trying to cause problem for yourself, no one is asking anyone to get into problem just because you are trying to create awareness, their are lots of ways which you can create awareness and you won’t make it public. If you are introducing bitcoin to your friends and family members  that’s also awareness and you don’t have gather crowd to do that.

There are some things better avoided and done with  wisdom so as to avert unnecessary stress than getting yourself involved with it. There is a saying that says "wisdom is profitable to direct" anyone who sees this would know accordingly. If your country prohibits bitcoin transaction then there is no point you exposing yourself to security risk because that alone  would put you always on the run. So it would be best you do it within your circle such as family, friends, relatives community, street etc and no go public with it such as seminar, television cast or shows, on air radio talk show etc all these would attract and compound more problems for you. With this, you can still carry on with your bitcoin awareness and adoption campaign and nobody would raise any dust in your direction.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: icalical on July 20, 2023, 12:43:36 PM

I don't know where you live right now OP, but in my country owning Bitcoin is not a crime, it's currently legal to own a bitcoin here, as long as you don't use it as a currency.

Wow, I'm shocked your country will not allow you to use bitcoin as a currency, which was the main reason it was founded before all other purposes.  Being used as a store of value is still acceptable, but not being acknowledged as a currency makes its use in your country appear unjust to me.

I think it's to protect the official currency, using anything but the government official currency is illegal here, including foreign currency like USD and EURO, same rules for Bitcoin. We are allowed to keep USD or other foreign currency in our Bank account but if we used it for transaction as currency it's against the law. Probably got jailed, but I don't know there is never any such case.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Obari on July 20, 2023, 01:16:57 PM
You're making a great  point and my country is also a case study as well and now most advocate promote cryptocurrency through forex because I could  barely hear of public adverts for cryptocurrency in my country and what they rather do is promote forex trading and simply list bitcoin  and other cryptocurrency as a trading pair.
Security is one thing that can't be over emphasized  especially now that it seems tye government if most countries is fighting it and it is very important  that in course of spreading the awareness of bitcoin,  that our safety and privacy be maintained  and held as top priority.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 20, 2023, 02:52:47 PM
I don't know where you live right now OP, but in my country owning Bitcoin is not a crime, it's currently legal to own a bitcoin here, as long as you don't use it as a currency. Centralize exchange are free to advertise their platform and to give proper education about bitcoin and crypto, so there is no need of secrecy to discuss bitcoin.

I wish anywhere you live, you will be able to discuss and buy Bitcoin freely very soon.


You can be called lucky since you live in a country where Bitcoin is allowed. I am different in that in my country, Bitcoin is in the gray zone; it is not clear what could happen tomorrow. And that is why I see no reason to tell people what I do or why I do it. After all, if you follow the adage, then money loves silence, people can sometimes misjudge Bitcoin, thinking that if someone has it, then there should always be a lot of it, and therefore you can use the wrench method to pick it up. The Internet is vast, and people's interests are just as vast. Those who are interested in Bitcoin can easily find the correct information on the network; there is no need to teach someone, much less impose it.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: robelneo on July 20, 2023, 08:59:28 PM


So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.

Unfortunately for many Bitcoin is not promoted that way and adopted that way Bitcoin is promoted as a way to make a profit for them they invest more even to the point of getting a loan or selling their properties, the figure is surprising when you find out that many investors have not read Bitcoin whitepaper they understand the market price and prefer to look on the market chart than understand the underlying concept behind Bitcoin, for this reason many do not know security and protection of their wallet.
The most important thing is you have to understand, what Bitcoin is, First by reading Satoshi Nakamoto's writing and Bitcoin whitepaper every Bitcoin believer and holder should start here and and make it their reference.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Odusko on July 20, 2023, 09:18:09 PM
The essence of Bitcoin is to provide privacy and freedom and if these two important Bitcoin features are not taken seriously,  people may run into trouble holding Bitcoin be it in banned countries or where Bitcoin is already adopted.
Privacy from both hackers and criminals who you exposed to by advocating for bitcoin, making them aware of the your bitcoin involvement and so on, this can have much negative effect more that it positive impact on the people in question,  i don't advocate publicly for Bitcoin adoption, but i always make sure my privacy is protected and only make few people around me know about Bitcoin and the advantage it offers it, users.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Rengga Jati on July 20, 2023, 09:46:10 PM
One of the main aim of bitcoin from its inception by satoshi is not just to protect our money but also to protect the user. Therefore by spreading bitcoin awareness in countries or communities that it’s government are against it, should be done cautiously. Because once the government decides to take strict actions against the users, some of the advocates that spread it publicly or use it in their businesses will easily be traced and could be convicted for breaking the law, and I don’t think even Satoshi will appreciate that.
Of course, if it is done in a country that is against Bitcoin and we do it openly, this will be dangerous for us. because of that, we must also understand how the law in that country is related to cryptocurrency, both in terms of its use in any case. because sometimes, there are different laws in the country related to crypto, like in other countries. I can use it to invest, but I can't or it's illegal to use it as a legal tender, and I risk being prosecuted if I use it openly. This is true, we must understand and be careful when it comes to Bitcoin spreads. But if the law in the country allows and there are no problems, then it will be better to make more and more people aware and interested in Bitcoin. what must be considered is that we should not show off our assets to attract possible crimes.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: GiftedMAN on July 20, 2023, 09:51:07 PM

I don't know where you live right now OP, but in my country owning Bitcoin is not a crime, it's currently legal to own a bitcoin here, as long as you don't use it as a currency.

Wow, I'm shocked your country will not allow you to use bitcoin as a currency, which was the main reason it was founded before all other purposes.  Being used as a store of value is still acceptable, but not being acknowledged as a currency makes its use in your country appear unjust to me.

I think it's to protect the official currency, using anything but the government official currency is illegal here, including foreign currency like USD and EURO, same rules for Bitcoin. We are allowed to keep USD or other foreign currency in our Bank account but if we used it for transaction as currency it's against the law. Probably got jailed, but I don't know there is never any such case.

In  this case, how do we now say that bitcoin is acceptable in your country when it can not be used for transactions? From your explanation, bitcoin is not illegal to be owned by an individual in your country but it is illegal to be used for transaction that means it is not generally accepted rather your local fiat currency is the only recognise ligal currency that can be used for transactions right? I don't mean to doubt you but maybe you will need to explain very well so that myself and other members can understand you better.

Like in my country Nigeria, bitcoin is seen as illegal here but  the government did not ban individuals from making online transactions that's why you see a lot of people doing bitcoin transactions without the interference of government.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: icalical on July 21, 2023, 01:11:32 AM

I don't know where you live right now OP, but in my country owning Bitcoin is not a crime, it's currently legal to own a bitcoin here, as long as you don't use it as a currency.

Wow, I'm shocked your country will not allow you to use bitcoin as a currency, which was the main reason it was founded before all other purposes.  Being used as a store of value is still acceptable, but not being acknowledged as a currency makes its use in your country appear unjust to me.

I think it's to protect the official currency, using anything but the government official currency is illegal here, including foreign currency like USD and EURO, same rules for Bitcoin. We are allowed to keep USD or other foreign currency in our Bank account but if we used it for transaction as currency it's against the law. Probably got jailed, but I don't know there is never any such case.

In  this case, how do we now say that bitcoin is acceptable in your country when it can not be used for transactions? From your explanation, bitcoin is not illegal to be owned by an individual in your country but it is illegal to be used for transaction that means it is not generally accepted rather your local fiat currency is the only recognise ligal currency that can be used for transactions right? I don't mean to doubt you but maybe you will need to explain very well so that myself and other members can understand you better.

Like in my country Nigeria, bitcoin is seen as illegal here but  the government did not ban individuals from making online transactions that's why you see a lot of people doing bitcoin transactions without the interference of government.

I don't really understand what is your question here because I think I was being clear. As I said earlier it is allowed to own Bitcoin you just can not u use it as currency meaning you cannot buy anything using Bitcoin here, it is not allowed to be used as payment tools, you can invest and speculate on Bitcoin just like on Stock but not for currency.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: CryptSafe on July 21, 2023, 10:02:05 AM

I don't know where you live right now OP, but in my country owning Bitcoin is not a crime, it's currently legal to own a bitcoin here, as long as you don't use it as a currency.

Wow, I'm shocked your country will not allow you to use bitcoin as a currency, which was the main reason it was founded before all other purposes.  Being used as a store of value is still acceptable, but not being acknowledged as a currency makes its use in your country appear unjust to me.

I think it's to protect the official currency, using anything but the government official currency is illegal here, including foreign currency like USD and EURO, same rules for Bitcoin. We are allowed to keep USD or other foreign currency in our Bank account but if we used it for transaction as currency it's against the law. Probably got jailed, but I don't know there is never any such case.

In  this case, how do we now say that bitcoin is acceptable in your country when it can not be used for transactions? From your explanation, bitcoin is not illegal to be owned by an individual in your country but it is illegal to be used for transaction that means it is not generally accepted rather your local fiat currency is the only recognise ligal currency that can be used for transactions right? I don't mean to doubt you but maybe you will need to explain very well so that myself and other members can understand you better.

Like in my country Nigeria, bitcoin is seen as illegal here but  the government did not ban individuals from making online transactions that's why you see a lot of people doing bitcoin transactions without the interference of government.

I don't really understand what is your question here because I think I was being clear. As I said earlier it is allowed to own Bitcoin you just can not u use it as currency meaning you cannot buy anything using Bitcoin here, it is not allowed to be used as payment tools, you can invest and speculate on Bitcoin just like on Stock but not for currency.

From what OP has said, I think the government of their nation prefers her citizens to own bitcoin and possibly use it as a means of store of value against using it for payment of goods and services and the major reasons why bitcoin was invented was to serve as a means of digital cash payment where people could exchange it for goods and services.

I just believe the government is trying to project their currency over any other thing that could be seen as a source of payment in their country. Some country has such laws governing their financial institutions and their country as a whole. Do it's not new but for the fact that it is legal to be own means that in the nearest future there is the possibility that it would be legal for payment for goods and services.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on July 21, 2023, 10:14:02 AM
Spreading awareness about bitcoin need not to be risky that will eventually put your own security at risk. Just do your part at your own comfort as you can never convince people to believe about bitcoin forcing them to learn especially when their concern is not to break the law made by the government. In fact, this forum alone is a good outlet to spread awareness as we welcome a lot of newbies that are interested to learn about bitcoin and how  it can be used in the real world.
Yes. But we should also consider some restriction on some country. Like the recently ban on Kuwait. That alone, can affect those who wanted to learn bitcoin sicne their country prohibiting now crypto. Im not sure the scope of the ban either users will get punish for that but since doing it will make them repulse on government then they have no choic ebut to obey. Maybe by making simple bitcoin wallet will be considered not allowed to them? Not sure but scenario like this.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: vv181 on July 21, 2023, 11:21:15 AM
This is a great way to increase bitcoin adoption spread to others, but isn’t this done at the detriment of the advocate’s safety and privacy?

That is why it is necessary for Bitcoin advocate to have a precaution before they publicly support and educates to general masses. Having a thorough and secure Operational Security is mandatory, for anyone who wants to deal with bitcoin in general.

Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.

We surely still have to "sell" it. No matter how good a product or service is, if there is none of anyone who knows about its utilization, it does not mean anything. At the very least, the awareness of bitcoin should be spread. I'm pretty sure many Bitcoin users and communities have already been doing that. Even if one country fully banned and restrict bitcoin usage, there might be legal steps that can be achieved to legally advocate for it. With a note that the country itself is not purely an authoritarian regime.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: palle11 on July 21, 2023, 04:46:59 PM

One of the main aim of bitcoin from its inception by satoshi is not just to protect our money but also to protect the user. Therefore by spreading bitcoin awareness in countries or communities that it’s government are against it, should be done cautiously. Because once the government decides to take strict actions against the users, some of the advocates that spread it publicly or use it in their businesses will easily be traced and could be convicted for breaking the law, and I don’t think even Satoshi will appreciate that.


I think that it is the aspect of the security of the person that should be important and not the government aspect because people who advertise or teach people are able to freely do that since the government has not placed a ban on it. The government don't make retrogressive laws, that is laws to punish for crime already committed. If they did the teaching of bitcoin or advertising it for P2P on their business when it is not a crime then the government will not come after them if they now decide to make it a law. It is past and they won't be responsible for action in the past if the law didn't exist. However, our concern should be if the public or armed rubbers now target them as bitcoin hodlers. But what I believe about advertising bitcoin is whether people take it upon their shoulder or not to go around the neighborhood to preach for it, bitcoin will get to the height that it will get without that because it is decentralized and digital, people visiting internet will get the knowledge too.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: BD Crypto on July 21, 2023, 08:10:03 PM
So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.
What you have said is really a nice point. Because in my country we are facing such a crucial period as government is against of Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency. They made it illegal and not getting stronger against it. Government are sharing announcements that any time cryptocurrency is illegal to be related with and may cause you punishment. Already few got arrested because of money laundering through cryptocurrency. But still now no one is arrested for just their personal use of Bitcoin.

This scinerio isn't same everywhere as we know many countries are crypto friendly though they haven't been legalized it yet. To make your own safety it's really important not to share your crypto involvement with others including relatives or family members. We should obey government rules to be a good citizen. So we should wait for the good days to share it with others in own way.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: nakamura12 on July 21, 2023, 08:21:55 PM
This is what people should do when they want to spread what Bitcoin is all about and its uses. The things you mentioned doesn't need to be that way in some countries like mine where some of the e-wallet in my country supports cryptocurrency. About the app, I can use it to buy, sell BTC, store BTC, store my fiat money and also use it for payment method. Keeping my wallet safe is still needed though but my privacy won't be a problem. You should make a note that it may be different in some countries and spreading about Bitcoin won't be a problem or risky compared to other country where it is banned.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2023, 08:22:40 PM
I have found and read through numerous threads on the forum about the spreading of bitcoin awareness and adoption by many forum members. Two of the widely used methods from this threads that I have read are; Class room teachings and using bitcoin as a payment method for ones business. This is a great way to increase bitcoin adoption spread to others, but isn’t this done at the detriment of the advocate’s safety and privacy?

I do not think that there is an impending danger if a person decided to promote information about Bitcoin.  As long as the person does not reveal his financial status and details about his finances.

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One of the main aim of bitcoin from its inception by satoshi is not just to protect our money but also to protect the user. Therefore by spreading bitcoin awareness in countries or communities that it’s government are against it, should be done cautiously. Because once the government decides to take strict actions against the users, some of the advocates that spread it publicly or use it in their businesses will easily be traced and could be convicted for breaking the law, and I don’t think even Satoshi will appreciate that.

I don't think that it is the user's privacy as the main purpose of Bitcoin, its main purpose is to enable  the peer to peer transaction without the involvement of the third party financial institution.  If Satoshi aim for privacy then why does he made the blockchain transparent to the public?

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I feel like bitcoin should be spread in these kind of communities secretly and cautiously to avoid exposing our privacy and hampering our security. It should only be thought to people that show interest and not going to schools to teach them because that is like breaking the laws of the community or country, and bitcoin or Satoshi himself is not have law breakers or criminals as it’s users or advocates just like how the media and government portrays it.

I believe Bitcoin can be promoted normally.  There is no need for discreet method since to promote Bitcoin we can just state the information about Bitcoin and the basic function of it.  We don't need to announce our wallet address or tell the public that we have Bitcoin.

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So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.

I agree we should be vigilant in exposing our Bitcoin holdings but I believe anyone can promote Bitcoin without risking themselves by simply focusing on the information about Bitcoin and not how much Bitcoin they have.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Botnake on July 21, 2023, 09:23:23 PM
In my country, the government is not really all out support for bitcoin, but if you try to discuss with few people around about bitcoin, other people won’t even care and definitely it’s not a crime in our country. However, if you offer to discuss bitcoin in a public school, or convincing the people around to get acquainted with bitcoin, that’s a different thing. You will eventually become the target of the government and charge you some penalty of breaking its law. Bitcoin is our future, but seeing most of the countries government are still one sided, then it’s safe to just keep bitcoin on our own.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Distinctin on July 21, 2023, 09:38:35 PM
Teaching Bitcoin to everyone isn't a crime! people who don't like Bitcoin can leave, no one force you to sit down until the teacher out. It's different if your country declare buy, sell and hold Bitcoin is a crime, anything connected with Bitcoin is crime, not only teach to other.

Although I always said privacy and security are very important, but it's up to each person. Bitcoin is an asset, one of your wealth. Publicity yourself if you have Bitcoin surely attract criminals, but there are many people don't care about it because they want to become popular and get paid by exposing their privacy.
Teaching bitcoin is never bad, the only thing it gets bad is that when you teach bitcoin to a lot of people when all you know bitcoin is prohibited in your country. So that can be considered a crime, breaking your government’s law. That’s the reason why I don’t publicize that I am into bitcoin because I know I will always be the bad one, but I always discuss bitcoin with my friends whenever they ask to. At least I know I’m doing my part but not in a large audience.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: nurilham on July 21, 2023, 09:40:18 PM
So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.
That's why we must know well several things firstly.
1. The legality (status) of Bitcoin in our country.
2. Who the object (people) that we want to share the information about Bitcoin.
3. How the circle of the objected people is.

At least, we must learn 3 things above. If no problem with them, then it is okay to spread the bitcoin awareness among the people in our country.

Anyway, spreading the awareness is a must. We can't expect it will find its own way, it should need efforts. Not every people have the same level of awareness, some of them need something to ensure their perception about Bitcoin. If people still feel afraid about Bitcoin, there will be awareness among them.



Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: rachael9385 on July 21, 2023, 09:43:04 PM
In every country the government is like the eye of the country, like in my country Nigeria the government has ban crypto currency (Bitcoin) from some years back till now the government haven't made any reasonable comments about Bitcoin, so if the country is like this I don't advice anyone to proclaim the awareness of Bitcoin and moreover your safety is more important than anything, although given an advice to a relative about Bitcoin isn't a bad idea because if anything happens you can solve it within your selfs so it's more safer to tell Bitcoin to outsider's, in some countries you mignt even get arrested for investing in Bitcoin because you are going against the government. live to tell about Bitcoin because Bitcoin will speak for its self when the time is right, people will see the glory of Bitcoin and invest in it when the time is right and that might be the the price is around $100k and that time is near.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Viscore on July 21, 2023, 09:59:33 PM
I don’t think those who dare to get out from their comfort zone and decide to spread awareness about bitcoin have not thought of their safety and security at first. Of course that’s already expected. However, my only point is that it’s useless to keep educating and convincing people to learn about bitcoin when they don’t have the willingness to learn about it in the first place. Though they might listen but it will only pass through onto the next ear so all our time and efforts will just go into waste. That’s why I don’t teach bitcoin just to spread awareness, but I make sure that if they come to me with their eagerness to learn and dream of bringing changes in their lives, then I would really help them without asking for returns.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on July 22, 2023, 06:38:28 PM
Agreed, Because we are taught that first save yourself then save other. Reason is if we can not save ourself then how can we able to safe other. But ban on cryptocurrency is only few countries now. I also hesitate to talk openly about my interest in BTC in public even in my friends too. But there are other factors too due to which i hesitate.

But i agree with your message, and we should really follow it like its one of our norms. But there is another thing included too, like if you are living in a village which is far away from big cities or at least far away from the authorities head quarters who mostly handle such cases. Then they also try not to make any step against such influencers. Because they know what they will find from them like they are not going to find millions of dollars in stead few dollars maybe.

But, we should hire some lawyer before such thing happen. I have seen many people try to hide there identities and i think i should learn from them too.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: BIT-BENDER on July 22, 2023, 06:57:04 PM
Although I am not a fan of those that just comes to the forum and tell us tales some goes ahead to post pictures of a class room with the image of children clearly shown. It's actually wrong because most times the consent of those in the images wasn't seek, it's always right to do the right thing.

Also I don't agree with you that anyone genuinely spreading the word Bitcoin and Crypto-currency doesn't care about their own security. They are not stupid and have had good knowledge of Bitcoin to a certain extent and if a Bitcoin knows he should protect his wallet definitely would have the basic knowledge of protecting themselves too.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Sanitough on July 22, 2023, 06:58:33 PM
The essence of Bitcoin is to provide privacy and freedom and if these two important Bitcoin features are not taken seriously,  people may run into trouble holding Bitcoin be it in banned countries or where Bitcoin is already adopted.
Privacy from both hackers and criminals who you exposed to by advocating for bitcoin, making them aware of the your bitcoin involvement and so on, this can have much negative effect more that it positive impact on the people in question,  i don't advocate publicly for Bitcoin adoption, but i always make sure my privacy is protected and only make few people around me know about Bitcoin and the advantage it offers it, users.
That’s also what I’ve been considering about bitcoin adoption. You don’t need to lecture everyone like going in a school and ask permission to teach. That would be risky knowing you are exposing yourself that you’re into bitcoin and that people may instantly think that you are hodling big amount of bitcoin which will eventually put  you in danger. So I’d definitely won’t do that. However, I make sure I’m also doing my part for bitcoin adoption by educating my family first and those close friends around me, but to be clear I won’t waste my time teaching to those whom I think will never agree on the advantages we can get from bitcoin.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Odusko on July 22, 2023, 07:12:28 PM
I don't know where you live right now OP, but in my country owning Bitcoin is not a crime, it's currently legal to own a bitcoin here, as long as you don't use it as a currency. Centralize exchange are free to advertise their platform and to give proper education about bitcoin and crypto, so there is no need of secrecy to discuss bitcoin.

I wish anywhere you live, you will be able to discuss and buy Bitcoin freely very soon.


You can be called lucky since you live in a country where Bitcoin is allowed. I am different in that in my country, Bitcoin is in the gray zone; it is not clear what could happen tomorrow. And that is why I see no reason to tell people what I do or why I do it. After all, if you follow the adage, then money loves silence, people can sometimes misjudge Bitcoin, thinking that if someone has it, then there should always be a lot of it, and therefore you can use the wrench method to pick it up. The Internet is vast, and people's interests are just as vast. Those who are interested in Bitcoin can easily find the correct information on the network; there is no need to teach someone, much less impose it.
There is no need to become so crazy with promoting bitcoin since Bitcoin is not a crowdfunding network that needs advertisement to push it to the mainstream, bitcoin is already doing well and that is noticeable in the value of Bitcoin, and as that, we can say Bitcoin privacy practice become the best shot for anyone regardless of your country whether Bitcoin is legal or banned.

But promoting Bitcoin in a country where the government has an anti-bitcoin law, you risk losing your freedom if anything goes wrong and you get reported, I believe keeping silent is the best practice for any Bitcoin holder.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Smartvirus on July 22, 2023, 07:31:50 PM
I feel like bitcoin should be spread in these kind of communities secretly and cautiously to avoid exposing our privacy and hampering our security.
Secretly you say!
Bitcoin wasn’t meant to leave in the shadows or to serve as some currency that exists on the dark web. Bitcoin was meant for a world wide usage which requires it going public in a number of ways. Publicity by seminars, classes and more is one of those ways.

I get it that in doing this, one gets to expose themselves to security challenges as, you can’t tell who is in the crowd, there motives for being there and the steps they are ready to take based on there perception or what they perceive to be what is or what could be from the entire event.

This makes hosting such event to be something you should exercise caution about and be well aware that, you encroach on your privacy in doing so.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: tvplus006 on July 22, 2023, 09:14:00 PM
I don't know where you live right now OP, but in my country owning Bitcoin is not a crime, it's currently legal to own a bitcoin here, as long as you don't use it as a currency...

Regardless of where you live, you will have to say goodbye to privacy if you use any cryptocurrency as a payment acceptance for services or goods rendered. And it is this aspect that the OP mentions in his post. Accordingly, if anonymity is an important factor for you, then you should not part with it so easily.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Russlenat on July 22, 2023, 09:59:29 PM
Our own security should be the topmost priority in the first place. Especially in countries where they are strongly against with bitcoin, I guess the best thing to do is just to zip your mouth shut and secure yourself and your bitcoin first rather than spreading the information about bitcoin and the next thing you will see is that the government officers are coming to you. However, my country is not as strict like this when it comes to bitcoin. Although they make it clear that bitcoin is not yet legally adopted, but we are free to invest in bitcoin as long as we also take hold the responsibility to secure our own funds not to get scam. But I don’t think teaching bitcoin in a crowd is possible, as it could trigger the reaction of the government and banks officers.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Frankolala on July 22, 2023, 10:25:40 PM
If bitcoin is illegal in your country and has a penalty for whoever talks about it,I will advice you not to talk or let anyone know that you are into bitcoin,so that you don't implicate yourself.

On the other hand,if bitcoin is legalize in your country, it wouldn't be problem for you  to be a bitcoin preacher. You should also put into consideration the kind of people that you tell about bitcoin so that you don't end up telling someone that is a criminal or robber,because he might think of robbing you. If there will be too much risk to teach people about bitcoin, it is better that you don't do it.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: BlackBoss_ on July 24, 2023, 03:01:10 AM
If bitcoin is illegal in your country and has a penalty for whoever talks about it,I will advice you not to talk or let anyone know that you are into bitcoin,so that you don't implicate yourself.
As I know, you won't be punished if you only talk about something. Punishments come when you host some kind of conference, meetings for a Ponzi operation or similar activities which have financial bonds. If you don't host such things, you will be well and no governmental staffs will knock your doors to send you into jails.

Like if Bitcoin is prohibited in your country, if you use it for payments, to purchase or exchange something with someone, when your trading activity is detected or reported to government authorities, they will find you and put you into jail.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 24, 2023, 06:53:53 AM
Therefore by spreading bitcoin awareness in countries or communities that it’s government are against it, should be done cautiously. Because once the government decides to take strict actions against the users, some of the advocates that spread it publicly or use it in their businesses will easily be traced and could be convicted for breaking the law, and I don’t think even Satoshi will appreciate that.
If Bitcoin's banned in your country, just forget teaching it to other people.
No "doing it cautiously" kind of sh*t here. If it's banned by the government, don't do it unless you're ready for the consequences. Yes I like people who are sharing information about Bitcoin, but if that will cause you to go to prison, or if that kind of act of yours will cause you to alarm the government then is it worth it? I don't think so, so just don't teach them. As for Satoshi, he/she/they don't care TBH.

I feel like bitcoin should be spread in these kind of communities secretly and cautiously to avoid exposing our privacy and hampering our security. It should only be thought to people that show interest and not going to schools to teach them because that is like breaking the laws of the community or country, and bitcoin or Satoshi himself is not have law breakers or criminals as it’s users or advocates just like how the media and government portrays it.
Nope I don't think that it should be spread secretly or cautiously.

In some places where there is a high crime rate then maybe you can do it, but there are some places where you are still safe after doing it. After all, sharing knowledge to other people doesn't mean that you have lots of Bitcoin right? As for schools teaching Bitcoin, in my country I don't think that there will every be a curriculum that regards to Bitcoin (correct me if I'm wrong though), but there are some countries that are teaching Bitcoin, I guess.

Again, why address Satoshi as a male, and why you use "himself"? Evidences??

So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.
I'm not teaching Bitcoin to anyone as of now, but I'm aware of my security once there will be people who might get interested in learning it. I believe that those people who are teaching Bitcoin to other people are aware of their own security.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: avp2306 on July 24, 2023, 07:43:34 AM
Better not to create any noise about your participation on any crypto activity since you don't know what other people think since they could do anything bad you especially when they think that you have a lot of money.

Just stay lowkey and don't make any move that can put your life at risk. Let other people discover crypto and you don't have any obligation to spread it to your neighborhood.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Abu-Naim on July 24, 2023, 05:04:54 PM
So before spreading bitcoin awareness, first of all take care of your own security First. If you can then leave the advocacy for that period. Bitcoin Uniqness will surely pave way for itself like it has been doing through the years.
It will be risky to share Bitcoin awareness publicly in some countries where Bitcoin is not accepted by the government; however, it will be beneficial if the awareness is done in such a way that the teachers' privacy is protected to avoid government arrest for spreading what the country prohibits.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Agbe on July 24, 2023, 05:42:39 PM
Teaching bitcoin in the classroom is not bad but all depends on the subject and topic and the way the teacher present the topics to the students. If you do well in the area of your teaching then you can defend yourself in any court of law. Remember bitcoin is money so if you are teaching it from the economics perspective and mixing it with the Fiat exchange process then you are okay. And when come to the accepting of bitcoin in your business, you can use anything to exchange your goods to make profit. If I am selling groundnut and someone wants to take it and give me gold which I will use it to make more profit, I will accept it. And that is the meaning of business. I didn't offend anyone for that.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: Aikidoka on July 24, 2023, 07:54:49 PM
It's not a crime to own bitcoin, but in some countries where there's limited understanding of this technology, the government may suspect some people of involvement in money laundering just by owning bitcoin.

I know a friend who lives in a country in Africa and he mentioned that if the police discover he owns bitcoin, it would become a really big issue for him. There's a chance they might seize his money, as his country currently lacks clear regulations for cryptocurrency and the government strongly opposes its use.


Title: Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first
Post by: letteredhub on July 24, 2023, 09:57:05 PM
Op you made a good point in this context, no matter how passionate we become about bitcoin and wishes to extend the knowledge to people within our spheres we should take on serious background check about the character of those we wish to preach bitcoin to, cause the idea to many of these ignorant people is that immediately they hear you talk about bitcoin they think you're rich and have a lot of money already. Cause many of them think bitcoin is a source of getting rich quick money-making-machine and those of criminal mind might wanna come after you afterwards to have their own part of the cake. Let's be careful out there, for the days are evil.