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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

After all, you gamble by believing in gambling. You don't just say, "I'm going to give my money to this guy and I'm going to lose it," because you believe that your gambling will make you money because of your own analytical ability or luck.
Let's put it this way;
When you do a job for the first time and make money from this job, you ask yourself the question "what if?" Because your luck has gone well and when you make money from an area you don't know, especially from gambling, you gain self-confidence.
Gambling is, of course, a money-making / losing mechanism that always involves risk. You will continue on your way in a way that minimizes this with the risk and amount that only you will determine, because it is in your hands again. Even if your friend or friend says stop it for you, psychologically, it is difficult for those who step into this addiction once to get out.
Because here, when you look from the outside, it seems like easy money, but when you get into it, you realize that it is not always like that.
Even if you have your last 1 dollar left, maybe with that 1 dollar you will start dreaming of becoming a millionaire.

While I have seen this on the past I do not agree this is exclusive to gamblers, to me this is more about the particular personality of each person, whenever I think about doing something I always expect for things to work on my favor, but if not I have a plan B, plan C and so on.

However in my experience there is a great deal of people out there that never even consider the possibility of things not going their way, and when they inevitably face a setback they are unable to understand at all why this happened and what to do from now on.

There's somebody I know who gamble but seems to be pessimistic. Most gamblers would reprimand you if you place a bet and think that you will lose. They would say you shouldn't have bet at all if you think you will lose. So, yeah, I agree that most gamblers are optimistic, at least those who are thinking of winning or looking forward to the prize before they even place a bet.

But I don't think that this is a positive attitude. I've heard how a lot of people believe that one day they will hit the lottery and all their problems will be solved. I'm 100% certain that most of them will die without winning. Being optimistic without being realistic would make you blind.

Not really in most cases no. At least for me. Betting money is more like a thrill that I add to simple games so I can enjoy it. I mean, who would actually enjoy a dice rolling around right? (Well, there might be one or two people who enjoy that, but most don't). Plus, blackjack and poker are fun games in of itself really since it's a PVP type of game. Well, I turned to sports gambling nowadays though so can't speak much about it.

While I do believe that having such beliefs is good, I don't think that's the case for gambling. If it was a skill game then maybe. And additionally, such beliefs are actually a thing in a LOT of people, especially in competitive scenes like in sports. Mostly because that's their passion in life, and they put literally every hour of their lives in training.

Work without faith is dead, so we ought to believe in what we do. Gamblers have strong a positive mindset about their games, which has significantly boosted their streams of earnings from the system. Other than unwilling hobbies, gambling with hope tries for higher luck. It is very feasible to get a lot from the system, but only with luck, which explains everything. We bet to make money, we put in enough effort to get things right, but without luck, our planning may be rendered useless and our predictions incorrect. A further incentive for gamblers to keep winning is commitment.

Yes, gamblers do have it but not all have the hope and belief of winning big. Some of them just choose to play gambling while enjoying their spare time. These people don't have the hope and confidence to win because they know they don't have a chance to win big. So they just choose and play gambling.

But some gamblers are very careful about spending their money playing gambling and always avoid big bets and stop playing gambling when they have played enough. They also don't chase victory because they know that it's hard to do.

Playing enough gambling allows him to control his emotions and keep his expenses from being too big. But indeed, gamblers are people who are passionate about trying to get a win. But we also have to know that gambling doesn't always get wins.

Being hopeful is not a bad thing right?
We're all hopeful even the not gamblers. It's just what humans are we are hopeful til we thrive. Tomorrow will be better that is what we always think just as we hope for next year's bull market. And it did happen. 2022 seem to be one of the bearest year but we survived kicking and gambling still. 2023 seems a lot better and gamblers still betting. As long as there is something to hope for like BTC, we remain hopeful.  ;D

Its ok to have belief and faith, it can do wonders for your goal, and faith and belief are as strong on other interests not just only on gambling when it comes to gambling there is a limitation when applying your belief that you can win, you can't hold on to your belief that there is a way to win in gambling, you will end up chasing your losses and doing unnecessary things like taking loans and allocating money for gambling when you bet it's ok to have a belief that you will win but after the outcome, whether you win or lose you have to be realistic and use sound judgment if its ok to continue or stop.
Believing in good judgment is better than believing that you can win.

By having hope we can be more enthusiastic and have confidence for something better in the future, after all having hope is human nature and cannot be separated from everyone whether in the gambling industry, cryptocurrency or even in social life.
But it needs to be underlined that if you hope too much for something that you feel is impossible, sometimes it will only give you a deep feeling of disappointment, so expect it naturally and don't overdo it because anything can happen, not even according to expectations.

I think you explained it very well, we (gamblers/degens) never plan to just "throw the money away", there's always that hope that we will have some luck and that we will hit some good multiplier. Even when we come to the last bets we still hope for that "lucky hit" that will recover our balance with some extra profit...

But after so many years of gambling, something that comes with experience, I guess most of us are also very realistic about gambling. We know our chances and it's not going to be a disaster if we lose... we know that things can go both ways in gambling in seconds/minutes.

gamblers are happier when they gamble and also hopeful to win. if they lose, they will still have hope that they'd win the next time they bet. you can't put good gamblers down.
even the gamblers who already lost everything, you can see them they are still laughing at their mistakes. i think the only gamblers who are already lost hope are the ones who successfully committed suicide.

That's true. And the most stressed human beings too. Especially if the winning chance is taking longer than expected.  ;D

A chance. I think that is what drives gamblers to risk their money more. If they can somehow find that chance even though it's a super low percentage then they will do it.
Also, it's the competitive spirit. Against the house it is almost impossible to win so they want to compete against that and prove a gambler can win even against the house.
Gambling to win will always be their focus, some are doing it while having fun while others are just purely money-based objectives. But I agree with you, if we want to look for people who always want to win then the gambling industry might be the place for it.

Because in gambling your belief and point of view can attract good luck, like most gamblers, they always believe that they will win no matter what, as this attracts a good spirit in them to win, which they will get lucky with. Now if you are a negative thinker that you won't win, then that will bring your bad luck in gambling, which you are right won't see in any aspect of life, but again, once you are motivated, you'll think on this so that you'll be successful.

Cant fully agree with this statement, belief and commitment can be found anywhere, not only in gambling. I can say that gamblers also have doubt and fear of losing along with their belief of winning. It is normal where people have both belief and doubt at the same time for anything they are going to do in life. As gambler, some time I have my own doubt when I started my gambling session, the positive thing from this doubt is that it helps me to control or even to cancel my gambling session. Belief of winning sounds like a good thing in gambling but it can be the one that lead gambler into something bad.

Gamblers will do everything just to win in gambling , even selling their soul for demon ( not everyone of course) just to make a winning ?
but what we can find on those belief are losers , but yet ? they are not stopping lol.
their faith in gambling is like their faith in how long they will live in this world.

Because you are gambling, that does not mean you will sell your sole for demon. Because you are gambling, that does not mean you can do anything bad because you want to win.

Gamblers can lose and they are more prone to losses. But I noticed that you are generalizing this thing as if every gambler is an addict because what you are saying are just for addicts.

Me and a few friends have always been active in betting at sportsbooks especially in football.
There were several times I forced a bet where actually I was a little doubtful about the bet made but forced to continue betting in the bet because I saw the odds were quite interesting.
One of my friends always reprimands there and what he always says is "you are not a gambler but an amateur who is just tempted by some opportunities" I actually don't really understand but when I see the way he bets, he always makes a bet where he is full of confidence in it. when he bets he never hesitates at all because he is always optimistic about his choices with all forms of research and reading of statistics and match history carried out.
As a result, the bets he makes rarely end up losing and I understand that hesitation can actually make us not subjective in betting.

IMO, this gambler confidence is the same as overconfidence. I mean a gambler who is always sure of getting this win is just like he is too confident in gambling and it can be said that his life and death depend on gambling. this is very bad because in the long term or short term the person will be mentally and financially devastated because gambling is for the benefit of the gambling owner not for the customer and the customer profit from gambling is just entertainment.
well, I admit that maybe someone is lucky to get a big win or like the case of someone who get a big jackpot from the lottery but I wonder if the big win is equivalent to the money lost in gambling? I do not think so.
indeed, in gambling, you must always have faith and believe if you can win, but you don't need to overdo it, just think of it as entertainment with a little luxury that wants a little victory and if you lose, come back if you already have money left over.
and there is no need to take the luck of winning big from gambling seriously.

Such beliefs must be broken by changing a healthier mindset, because gambling is not what you think, let alone a place to make money, don't think that gambling will give us a lot of wins because behind that there is a big risk in it that we must understand. besides the belief to win will not lead us to victory in the end.

The house will always win and it must be remembered that the dealer will never lose, so don't get your hopes up too sure and think you can beat the dealer, that alone will break your belief as a gambler because basically gamblers must have a healthy mindset and gamble wisely and don't play too deep too seriously so you don't become an addict, especially with high confidence will lead us to something that is not good.

Have you seen a newbie that got into crypto after learn that they can become a billionaire/millionaire if they enter into crypto? You can still see that kind of energy around them mostly those that have enough capital. So this does not apply to only gamblers.

I do get the fact that gamblers hope is a little different from that of crypto enthusiast since they don't have to do intense research before placing a bet all they have to do is to be familiar with a certain sport and then proceed to opening an account in a bookie. For me I don't think I have ever had that mindset before, probably when I newly got into gambling but now it's not the same case, after developing my mindset towards gambling.

I agree about hope. Probably no one has as much hope, hope of winning, as a gambler. But is belief inherent in these players? I tend to think that this is more of a self-deception. If gamblers believe in winning at any cost, but these expectations are not realized, then what is this, if not self-deception? It is true that the players want to win, but 100% knowledge in the subconscious that they will win is nothing but self-deception, because the probability of their winning is negligible (anything less than 100%).

You can live your whole life with the belief of a gambler, but never see the result of this faith come to life.

We gamblers have an unrivalled level of love and passion for the game. We always have the optimism and confidence to win the next game, whether we win or lose. Because winning a game you yourself analysed makes you feel like you've conquered the world and motivates you to predict and win again, the work gamblers put into what they do cannot be seen anywhere.

We all have various views, but a lot of gamblers consistently believe they have already won the wager, regardless of their personalities. Some even held the belief that if they have any doubts about winning the bet, they will ultimately lose the bet. We all know that gambling is risky and that there is a 50/50 possibility of winning, yet if I have doubts about my bets I always end up losing the wager.

Many people gamble without ever thinking that a game might not go in their favour; instead, they just have trust that everything will work out for the best and have no backup plan in case it doesn't. Speaking of backup plans (plan B), what else can be done if gambling doesn't turn out well for them? The only option is to try your luck again and hope for the best.

I understand the strong believe of gamblers in winning,  their hope is high and so is the expectations. But then it is common in the sphere of life. Even in cryptocurrency, many people are advised to invest what they are able to lose but yet people buy more than they can afford to lose with the hope that bull run will surely come.
If I want to take instance from another angle, even robbers before they go on operations, they are optimistic that they will have a successful robbery. So, optimism is found in every where and it depends on individual persons. But extreme optimism in gambling is bad because it can lead to addiction.

I would call this overconfidence and if someone is overconfident he will not follow the precautionary measures and hence will lose in gambling. I would call this gambling belief of always winnings as a drawback of the gamblers which leads them to become addicted to gambling.

Why don't gamblers understand that gambling is not an easy money making business unless you have a gambling house? Those gambling houses no doubt earn a lot of money from gambling.

That belief does not come out of nowhere,it is instilled in them by the environment which means that maybe some of their friends have hit it big,some other are inspired by people playing slot machines and showing their play in different streaming channels and it is only natural that gamblers have that high hopes and passion before starting their game play session.

That is also what makes these persons come back to gambling even after losing and this type of behavior even scientists have much difficulty at explaining at 100%,it is deep in our DNA,the greed and desire for money that has no logical explanation at all for me,it is only the hope of making it big that makes gamblers come back.

That whole winning energy would do better if diverted into investing in Bitcoin and good altcoins, this will bring them more life-changing money than gambling and the loss won't be like that of gambling.

Bitcoin is down 70% and altcoins are down 98%, the best buying time is now or never, but gambling is all about trying your luck once in a while, maybe twice in a week or a bit more. Gambling is not the right source to channel your energy into something believing to reap you big gains.

Even crypto trading is way better than gambling, but I am not here to confuse gamblers that trading and investing is better, I still engage in gambling myself but I am saying this because of the results I've gotten from all.

This is true for newbie gamblers.

What about in trading too? It is just like it is in gambling.

What about in hyip and other ponzi schemes of high return promises? Experienced people will not fall for it, but those that are scammed believed even more than gamblers that they will see the high yield return, until they come to their consciousness and right senses after they have been scammed already.

If you are no more a new gambler, you will know that gambling is risky and that it should be done with the money that you can afford to lose. If you do not have such discipline, that is addiction which gamblers should avoid.

This is not absolutely truth. Not all gamblers have this belief in fact, gamblers are one of the doubtful people on top their own profession. They ought to have been betting with their whole life savings if that hope and belief is genuine. The belief and hope is to console ourselves in pretense. The only set of people I have seen with such hope and belief describe in your post are the religious people who serve God with hope and commitment without see, hear or know him but still believe in heaven and hell. Is there anything that can be more fit into what you describe above as religious beliefs? Absolutely none.

Gambling is a product of doubt and that's why when you win, you'll regret not putting higher wager  ;D

Gambling is an endless hope for gamblers who see gambling as a job or as a means of survival. Such gamblers will end up in misery due to the great loss that they have in the name of having hope to win the next game. If you gamble for fun and set an amount for gambling, you will know that you can't win the house edge and you will also consider losing more than winning. Actually, I must be sincere to you,even though we gamble for fun,we don't have a vision of losing a game but we always want to win the game. Another set of people that are like gamblers that don't give up and have continuous hope are scammers. Scammers come up with different scamming strategy and believes that someone must fall for their trick.

I'm not like that there's too much disappointment if you use a strong belief in gambling if it's gambling it can be either way and there's no such thing as 100% sure, I've been busted so many times because of a strong belief on my bet, and it's very disappointed and you are left blaming yourself, it's better to accept whatever outcome than just pushing yourself to win, sometimes you will end betting what you can afford to lose because of too much belief and confident.

You have to draw the line between having a strong belief and giving up, You cannot win, and you cannot beat the house it's better to enjoy the game. Pushing yourself to win because of your strong belief that you will win, will get you in trouble.

Traders which is the only one I can identify now also have this kind of belief of making profit when they trade. If they did not, they will not be trading in the first place. Just as every gambler even the one playing for fun does not have the mindset that they should just waste money but hope to win as they have fun, and the gamblers who are strictly playing to win both have the belief of winning, No trader is trading just to waste money or for the fun of having the skill. Traders have the belief of winning too.

When I think of a gambler, hope and belief aren’t what comes to mind. I usually picture the Las Vegas degenerate pawning stolen goods for another spin at the roulette wheel. I think gamblers are more commonly associated with despair and desperation. Not to say there aren’t hopeful gamblers, but I think they’re the exception to the rule.

That's a gambler belief who's looking to make money through gambling, if it's an educated gambler, they wouldn't belief they will make money through gambling. So if you have a friend or relative that invite you to gamble and they have such belief, it's better to communicate with themselves first before you're getting into trouble where they can't control their addiction to keep gambling until they win.

I won't say it is the believe of winning that drives a gambler. I would say it is the hope of making a win that makes the continue with gambling. To an extent this hope is the reason why most get addicted to gambling. They are also superstitious and would tend to avoid anything that they think was the reason for thier loss last time. I feel that basically is just a paranoia that slowly takes over thier mind.

Do something full of faith, it is the foundation of someone starting a business and whatever they want to do, it's a fact and reality for people who want to do it.

However, I think that belief has a place, for me we cannot place one belief in gambling, because gambling is a game, where people have to gamble based on strategy, skill, knowledge and so on, in my opinion, belief does not make sense.

Example:
Sports betting for example: Arsenal vs. Leicester City, there are some gamblers, they are very sure that Leicester City will win this match, in fact, Arsenal won on the field.
Likewise with Roulette betting, we believe the yellow round stops, the next round that stops is white, and also other gambling games.

What else do we believe that gambling can make us rich, ahhhh we're finished.

Not really sure what you meant here, and for me, it's a bad analogous in my opinion. Remember that gambling is a risk and it's based on pure luck. What I'm seeing here is just what we call gamblers fallacy and not a belief or commitment per se.

And so in other facets of life, like if you want to succeed then yeah, you have to commit your life to it, let's say you put up a business and want it to grow. But in gambling? it's either you are lucky that day or not. It has nothing to do with your commitment or belief.

Of course, when we play, we should be very positive that we are going to win, not just to win, but win big, like in a lottery.


I disagree though, it could be found in other walks or life. Even when we are very young we already have this kind of mentality. For example, if we take exams in schools, we always belief that we are going to pass it,  ;D


So when we don't have passion or feel like not going to play because we have negative mentality then we should stop gambling then.

Maybe it's more precise in my opinion besides because they always believe that they will win too because they get pleasure so that it always makes them go back to gambling even though the results are not what they expected, and again not just at this time but from the very beginning of its appearance gambling is an activity that is difficult to forget or leave not because they are addicted but it is like a common or ordinary activity even though many people also think that gambling is a harmful activity.
But reading what Op said, it does happen to most gamblers who continue to gamble even though they haven't produced anything good or even when they are calculated losses more than earn, they keep playing because they like it, not only because they are optimistic that later they can get good results, but because the feeling of interest in continuing to play is always there, especially when there are types of games that are really they like, such as card games.

As said by @OP, gamblers are categorized as gamblers who have no self-control because they have hope and belief that they can win from gambling. They should know that they will not always be able to win from gambling and always control themselves in spending their money to gamble. If they can't do that, they are not wise gamblers because they are still following their lust to get winnings from gambling. If they can control themselves, that will save them from ruin or bankruptcy from gambling so they can still enjoy gambling as entertainment.

To be fair, OP. Even though I agree mostly that mindset can be easily found in gamblers, there is a fairly big percentage of people who are well aware of the risks, those I like to talk not-fully dedicated gamblers or casual gamblers.

I personally believe there is a problem behind the scenes if a person actually believes or have a blind faith their victory is a matter of time rather than matter of mathematics. Actually, even if I do not have further proof about it, I would be willing to say that having that kind of mindset is the first step towards becoming a person addicted to gambling and staying in that position, because as many of us are already aware, stubbornness is an usual characteristic of those who are proven to suffer compulsive gambling. The same stubbornness which can lead toward the loss of money and the support of family and friends...

Yes, it's true, the mindset of every gambler is different, but when it comes to their beliefs, they share the same goal. I guess it seems like this belief stems from the steps they go through from gambling, maybe because in the beginning they were given a lot of wins or something else. They have their own problems in their gambling, and I think it is very difficult to find evidence or tell what they are experiencing, especially about the problems why they can put so much trust in them because these problems are under the consciousness of every gambler so they are difficult to fix or direct to a better path. For someone who is addicted, this is commonplace for a gambling addicts where most of them will put high hopes and faith in gambling to win.

If you don't believe in it then what's the reason of going into it at the first place, before every gamblers make predictions they've already pictured the benefits of the outcome of the event and decided to risk going into it, so it the believe you've developed for it's success that would trigger you to gamble, the thing is no matter the amount of risk involved in something so far someone has made up their mind and decided to embark on something it's mostly difficult to convince them about it and same applies in gambling, because it would be very difficult to convince young lads that has made huge profit from gambling to quit, because they've been given every benefit out doubt over any advise you try using to talk them out of it.
 Gambling is a game of chance and the belive would also be  there so far you've decided to play especially on online casino where bettors believe outcome of a game must either produce a winner or lesser and would go for their preferred options, in gambling there's nothing like a 100% success and your predictions are based on your believe for any possible outcomes.

Well some of those gamblers had firm believe in winning their bet was usually based on the matches they placed their bet on with regards to soccer betting, for instance if Man City a strong team in EPL is playing a bottom club like Everton they will pick Man City a straight win against Everton though the odd of that pick is very small, they will also analyze matches from other European leagues where top teams are playing lower team and pick top team to win to accumulate their odds with those combination a gambler will tell you that their are chances of winning is a sure bet, well in most cases luck is on there side while at times upset is often created where a lower team drew or even defeat the top team thus ended up in a lossing the bet.
Well some might lucky to have an edge over the bookies in the long run probably that is what is keeping them to continue to gamble.

It doesn't hurt to believe on your bet, so long as you are not trusting it blindly and putting a lot of money in it that will put you in a tough position. There's some kind of luck that goes to those who are positive in what they do, although it's mostly superstitious in nature but I do cling to it as it has happened to me a lot of times. Putting faith in what we do is one thing, but leaving rationality behind is another.

Not all gamblers are like that and should not be like that because this is the kind of gambler that refuse to give up, chasing his losses and allocating more than he can afford its risky behavior, and there should be a point gambler should give up, gambling is not an interest where you can pour and make a strong belief that you can win because the house will always win and you will end up with nothing, only compulsive gamblers do this


If I'm this kind of gambler, then gambling will be a source of disappointment for me, I just cross my fingers and hope to win but in the back of my mind I just knew that I could lose, so I just accept whatever the outcome is.

You have to be optimistic once there is nothing else left. Some people put all their hope in one lottery ticket, after learning they didn't win the next day they were alright still. They know it's a long shot. Somehow it's only hope that made some people alive.

Different situations when you won't need to lift your hopes up too much. But gamblers know, that rooting for an upset is a long shot. One go actually bets for the leading team but he gambles and is hopeful.

      -      The belief of a gambler is that they have given up their hope of betting on gambling which can set them free when they get the jackpot prize here and that is hard to overcome in their mind.

They no longer see the value of what they lose in gambling because they think that when they win and get the jackpot, they will get back all the amount they lost in gambling, that's how dedicated they are to their extraordinary belief

As a business owner. I do 100% believe that my business will become successful while I think gambling as 50% success rate of winning. Only fools will believe that they will win 100% on gambling since it’s luck based game with house edge disadvantage. All odds is in favor to the casino so being confident on winning to gambling is a very absurd belief.

I think those belief that most people use when gambling is just for the purpose of boosting their spirits to become positive on gambling. But believing that you will be 100% won on a game that is pure random is an absurd thing to do.

Probably the principle of any casino lies in the psychology of gamblers. That is, first give hope or the lure of a big win, and then the gambler falls into the trap of addiction. But probably somewhere there is a strategy, for example in poker or sports betting, and somewhere there is no possibility to influence the outcome, for example in dice or slots.

This may apply to him who has won many times, this logic and belief always surrounds him, so what he has they bet on gambling, because with certain reasons he gets the victory again, that belief stands firm in him, and with that they always try to find his victory again, not thinking about returning the money he has deposited into gambling, but he is looking forward to his victory again which gives him pride in his life.

why don't they do that in the other side of life, because i don't think they have the same passion as winning in gambling.

Positive thoughts and having hope will make you to be strong in whatever that you are doing. Gamblers will always have hope of winning and that is why most times,you can't convince a gambler not to place his bet on a game. Having hope can attract luck,and luck will bring the wins.

Whenever that I am gambling I do have that feeling of winning the game and when I loss,I will not give up the same feeling in my next game. If anyone knows that he will loss his bet,that person will change his pattern of game because nobody will be happy to lose his money to anyone. All gamblers do have hope of winning, including a responsible gambler and an addicted gambler.

Having hope is natural but it can be a double edged sword for you so you should be very careful with your own hope to win in gambling.
In 1 side, a hope can make you confidence on what you are going to do but in other side it may drive you to the worst case (addiction).
All in all, the most important thing is not belief of having luck but I will say it is belief of having a full control for ourselves while gambling.

That belief is the reason why most gamblers keep gambling, otherwise, once you've lost a significant amount by constantly losing the bets, you would never gamble again, but only because they believe that they will win any time soon which makes them keep gambling, but to be honest, the reality usually stays on the other side, no matter how much belief someone has, they will still keep losing in the long run but the belief doesn't let them realize it before it's too late.

People who gamble with this much belief and determination can achieve great things in life if they face the challenges and have the same level of belief that they will get success if they keep struggling and working hard, but unfortunately, their belief doesn't work on other things and they give up easily.

honestly I didn't see anyone getting very optimistic when placing a bet, in fact people to be able to win a lot of money in games of chance like sports betting, they need to put a lot of money in the bet, for example if a person bets on a game in which he has @ 1.50 then for that person to win a lot he would have to put a lot of money and his profit would be 50%, if that person is to bet on a game in which he has odds of @ 2.00 then that person will be running a lot of risk of losing money, if a person makes a multibet bet the risk increases so aware of all these obstacles

I don't see people getting too anxious or happy or too optimistic or too hopeful when they place a bet, at least most people don't get hopeful, it could be the case that some newbies get too optimistic on their first bet, but when they lose a lot they immediately start putting their feelings aside and start placing bets based on data and not emotions, this happens to everyone when they start placing sports bets, in my case I went through this too. I remember that at first I was already very optimistic even before seeing the result

I honestly don't know what OP would want to see instead. Gamblers are believers, that's a fact. Nobody would put thgeir money on the line, not believing in the positive result. If you want to throw it away, you can at least do it with a bang, throw a party, or buy a bunch of firecrackers and watch them light the sky.
There are many other groups of "believers" though. One good example are investors, bitcoiners, people who take on extreme sports... they all believe.

The belief that winning a gambling game will definitely win, but without realizing it, the win is only limited to returns that are not proportional to the losses during betting.
playing gambling with high confidence will only make us continue to play until that belief is achieved. And I've experienced it because I'm sure that one day I will definitely win, and the word "someday" will definitely be accompanied by continuing to play. And after that belief was fulfilled and I won, I realized that along the road to victory there were many defeats.
So for now I only play when I have the urge to play, and enjoy the game for fun sometimes luck always happens.

I don't know but I disagree with this, not all gamblers has a 100% mindset that they will won the game, some gambler like me always think of the reality that it is not always rainbows and butterflies , sometimes you need to accept that there will loses along the way and only if we are lucky we can win in a row but if we continue that belief that they need to win at all cost it will only made them desperate.

Just a little story when I play online gambling, I always have confidence that when I experience continuous defeat, I think it means I'm getting closer to a big win. But what happened was the opposite, I only deepened the defeat and I was able to realize it when I ran out of money and had no more friends I could borrow money from. That was the worst thing I ever did when playing gambling and it seems I have to change my mindset when playing gambling because deciding to stop playing gambling is very difficult.

Interesting, to be honest, I can't say for sure about the beliefs of most gamblers. but for me personally, belief is another matter of the gambling sessions we do. I mean, when I make a deposit, all I have in mind is wanting to have fun with a little money to place bets.

Regardless of what you describe in this thread, I'm not really interested in discussing it. but what got me interesting was the title of this thread, even though there are actually quite a few points that we cover from what you said. talking about gambling beliefs, as I said above. that part of the belief is another matter of the gambling sessions we do.

To be honest, I don't know how other gamblers define it. but for me, it is not a matter of hope and faith. not even a commitment.  but rather, what are we going to do during the gambling session. that's why, I say that belief is another matter than gambling. In fact, I could say the same is the case with luck, which is really another matter than gambling. for me, belief is a process that we have done after I conducted research and analysis regarding the two teams that will compete. Also, don't forget that I will consider all the references I get from the research results. then, after that, belief also appears to be decisive in our betting choices. yep, at least, this is my belief definition for gambling.

No matter what you will tell a addicted gambler about the risk associated with gambling, they will never listen to you, if you tell them about how risky gambling is, they will end up telling you that everything in this life is risk, so if you are not ready to take the risk you can never be successful. They are having confidence that if they keep on gambling (taking risk) there will be a time that they will be successful, so that’s why no matter how risky you tell them about gambling, they won’t listen to you.

Addicted gamblers don’t care about spending everything they are having on gambling, then after losing some might end up regretting, but when they are having money again, they will still end up going back to gambling, and some might not even regret that they lose. The way gambling is risky, nobody should always have assurance that he/she is going to win, no matter how sure you are on the games you played your bet on, slight mistake can happen and you will lose everything, when gambling we shouldn’t be too confident that we are going to win, because if you lose, the shock can cause some health challenges.

Gambling is so old within the civilation and so widespread in western societies that I am sure there must be some paychological studies and papers on the beliefs and thoughts of the regular gambler out there on the internet.

We could argue that addiction to gamble (assuming it has some direct relation to the belief and faith of the people to solve their problems) have a root which comes indeed from unconcious disturbances within the individual, perhaps even dating from the childhood of them. Though, I am more inclined to believe the psycho-chemical theory which associate problem gambling with a production and later need for dopamine and other neurotransmitters in the brain.

We all.get dopamine and serotonine from several natural sources, but if we make gambling the main one then there is a problem building up, in my opinion. One need to diversify one's life with other activities.

Consider in a football match we already had over 89th minutes and score is 0 - 0 but I have a bet of over 2.5 goals. I still like to hope that in the injury minutes we will have these two goals and will win the bet. It happens with me all the time LOL

I do not have many experience with casino games like slots, crash these things but with sports betting I always like to feel some miracle is going to happen and I will win.

Stick to that belief and those things would changed up 101% on the time that you would really be living on the streets.  ;D

People wouldn't really be stopping on trying out to pursue on what are the things that they do have in mind, on the time that they cant prove it out then they wont stop until they would be experiencing on their very eyes.
These are the people wont really be stopping until they proven it out and on the time that they would be experiencing unfortunate events then this is where regrets do begin.
Gambling is for fun and this is why it would really be wise that you should really be realistic on whatever you are dealing with.

Just be sensible on what gambling is and you wont really be finding yourself that desperate when it comes to various things because if you do have that kind of intent in the first place
on making money with gambling then it would really be an another story.

This hope from gamblers have made what the crypto industry is today. 99% of the altcoins are pump and dump scams but still gamblers tend to risk their money by playing with these shitcoin waves every now and then. If they are lucky enough, the coin gets pumped like the recent $PEPE or they can crash similar to Squid Game  ;D Researching well before investing is different while comparing to just throwing away the money in the hope of making more money.

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I think we can influence our brain habits to churn the dopamine by involving ourselves in positive habits which can indeed help us in staying productive or leading a healthy lifestyle. For example, you can increase your dopamine by opening up your twitter which is indeed a waste of time for quite a few but some have converted it into a positive factor of making money in the recent move of content monetization. The same goes with activities such as going to a gym or writing code. Both are considered to be boring activity by some but if we start practicing these regularly, they will indeed become a habit which can increase your dopamine and thereby help us in leading a healthy lifestyle or improving our productivity.

I believe every disfunction has two main factors as causes: an environmental and a biological one. Addiction is executed through a trigger. The individual has to identify this trigger and its cause. Since we talk about environmental factors, it's possible to avoid them by adopting determined measures which can be elaborated by the person himself, or with the help of a professional. Controlling the environment it's possible to reduce considerably the impact of the addiction on the person's life and even completely remiting its symptoms, depending the case and the weight of biological factors.

Usually the trigger would really be having that goal on becoming rich with gambling on which this is the one of the main reason on why people would really be pushing up themselves on playing gambling just because
on having this kind of pursuing on what they do have in mind. Greedy at the same time because they are thinking that with gambling, this is the only way that they could deal fast money or quick cash. If you are still that aware on your actions then for sure you would really be stopping yourself on doing gambling or not really having that kind of intent because if you do have this mainly on your mind then you would
be pushing yourself on playing more.

Gambling is for fun nothingless but there were people who do really have those impressions which are totally different on which this had been the reason on why they do really end up on
losing huge sums of money or messing their life because of their wrong impressions towards it.

Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, everyone has experienced it and what the OP described. However, belief has no effects on our winning or losing, it is still base on luck specially casino games.

But for sports betting like in NBA or Football, it might be different though as we always think that just one single goal will change the outcome of the game in our favor. So maybe we believed that even in the last seconds, a player will hit that goal or basket to give us that big win.

Maybe you think that it's not been seen in other walks of life but in reality it is. But having the comparison of people that are into business and into gambling, there's a huge disparity between both of them.

We all have our ways and beliefs that makes us more productive and with those beliefs, in gamblers' there are also those belief. But sometimes, they're just the typical ones when we're losing money.

I don't think that there's a person that doesn't have that feeling of winning is there, everyone is wanting to win and whether it's just a small amount, we don't want to miss it out.

The passion is directly related to dopamine in our brain as gamblers, we enjoy chasing big slot hits and this experience can't be felt the same in other activities, IMO. Beliefs and passions of gamblers are perfect reasons why many gamblers are addicted to this industry and they are not aware of potential problems that can be caused by gambling. The struggle becomes real when they lose all life savings in the gambling platforms and then look for loans to recover the previous losses, unfortunately.

If someone really wants to become rich with gambling, the best way to go about it would be to play the lottery from time to time and get lucky. If someone is not rich already, how would gambling make that person rich ever? I don't have any calculated numbers, but I would suppose that turning 20 bucks into 20 million bucks in a casino is maybe as likely as winning a lottery for the same money. If they have to get started with small steps in a casino, their luck may not be exhausted for a very long time to become rich in the literal sense. They either hit the jackpot or they just won't get close to becoming rich ever. If they were playing heads or tails and double the money every time and they start with a dollar, it would be ridiculously unlikely to turn that dollar into a million.

From what could be said about this talk of believe and hopes amongst gamblers after placing their bet is like wishing oneself goodluck on your bet. No man goes hunting with a lost hope. The hunter for instance didn't keep any animal in the bush before he decides to go hunting, but his belief and hopes that he would come back home with a catch is one no different from that of a gambler who just made a bet at a casino. Some of us when we place a bet, we already feel like we own the money already but the euphoria cuts short when the game is a loss one.

Because people need hope in their lives, that makes them happy. At least it makes me happy. I know that if i would look purely statistics i probably wouldn't even gamble, but i want to have a life where i don't need to base my every decision on statistics. That's not living imho. I need to give luck a change and sometimes go against all odds. Because i find life boring on making just safe choices.

I am not saying that anyone should make irresponsible choices but you can live inbetween to have an exciting life. Nothing to reckless but if you only want to make safe choices, soon life won't be worth living if you afraid of taking changes.

"Hope" is a cherish word that people rely on when you have nothing to rely on, it's like not having a money and broke but people have promised to pay back the money they owe you but you don't know if they will actually payback but you hope they will pay back, that's how gamblers hope in their games in general, but  accepting loss is something to readily get used to when your results are not what you had in mind, if you can accept profit with cool mind, loss is a minor thing to accept as well, only a psychopathic gambler will refuse to accept loss.

I have a notion and it's simple, ones a game is been stake with the little I can afford to lose, I don't expect it to win any game for me, that's how I picture it on my mind and most often I always get surprised if my win any game I bet because I don't expect them to win, I played with the little skills and the experience, it doesn't go beyond that strategy.

High expectations, low reality.
This is a general description for gambling addicts who really cannot gamble professionally. Why do I say unprofessional, because when there is a professional gambler, he really knows when to enter and leave, and knows what his chances are of winning at that time. Not only that, usually they don't rely on luck but indeed their abilities in gambling.

but for gamblers who are already addicted and incapable, aka often relying on luck, this really happens a lot. They always believe and always have high hopes that this time they will win, and so on until they have nothing because their treasures run out.

Obviously, seeing a gambler not hoping for a win doesn't make sense.

Indeed, most gamblers do hope for a win. 

That's why I don't believe in those "gambling for fun" reasons especially for those casual gamblers wherein the money loses at gambling is just fine because they are gambling for fun. What a bullsh*t reason right?


Being a positive gambler is a good trait while gambling since their mind will be relaxed and surely won't be pressured to win.

Let them understand and realize what gambling will really bring by themselves.

Telling them the risks of gambling is fine but if they are really eager to push for it, then let them be. And

And most of the time, you will encounter gambling addicts who don't know their boundaries.
The reason why this industry is negative to most because of some gamblers displaying negative attitude when they are on the losing side.
Just a simple example, gamblers who have large debts and still continue to play hoping that they will hit the jackpot and pay their loans.
Well, they are showing hope but on a different light. Hoping that someday they will be rich playing their games. But mostly will end up broke.

Having hope doesn't guarantee a winning though... Buh even with these valid interjections, they'll still wanna try and that's exactly the reasons anyone (gambler) would wanna hold on...
About the fun, people have different things in mind when gambling, but the sole aim for whatever anyone would think of at the time, would certainly result in "winning" or "not losing excessively".. nobody enjoys losing - be it for fun or whatever pleasure, especially when it doesn't have any material benefits to show forth, so the mindset certainly differs.
On that notion, I CANNOT advice anyone to expect too much cus as long as you're gambling, it remains a game of Chance and should be left at that.

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I have this personal idea about casinos, specially traditional ones, benefit more from functional gamblers than addiction crippled people. In the short term, someone who has fallen into gambling addiction will eventually lose all their money to the casino, but that would also imply such person could lose their hability to function approperly as a member of society and lose their source of income.

On the other hand, a person who is a functional gambler can continue to work, socialize and come back to spend on the casino, not only gambling but also in other goods and services in the resort, all of it in the long term.

That is just my point of view, of course.

Hope is a good thing, until you let it poison you.

It's good and great and all that but sometimes staying grounded and realistic will save you from trouble too. Such as with gambling, you can't stay hopeful and faithful to the process cause you know out of all people that the process is rigged against you and it will come for your ass if you let it. So staying a little realistic and setting up boundaries is just as important as having the propensity to take risks. Just as what some people have told you about in this thread, having hope is not going to guarantee you wins. It just gives you the confidence to make those choices and switch up when you need to. You have to differentiate staying hopeful to copium and making belligerent choices in the name of profit.

Would you give yourself a fail mark on something you haven't tried yet? Even if you gonna fail at it, you would still consider yourself to win the bet. That's the way the gambling feeling is. You will have a positive mindset that you are going to win, no matter how many times you failed.

The mental architecture of people is such that they tend to believe in luck. A believe that luck can shine on them someday despite how many failed attempts at gambling. That's why you see a gambler keep betting like he will surely win someday. The day he didn't bet on gambling would be like he have missed that day's luck.

The never give up attitude towards gambling can be seen with limited number of gamblers whereas the majority of the gamblers have known well about the situation and makes an exit/break. When it comes to gambling the never give up won't work as we all depending on luck for sinner, lunch. Never give up attitude should be carried when you follow your dreams or follow your passion.

You could really make out that kind of comparison and this is why to those people who do have less money, they would rather be buying lottery tickets rather than on gambling it on a casino knowing that those amounts
would really be just peanuts or something that you cant really be able to turn out those few bucks into millions which same as you said.This is why these are the main reasons on why it would be pushing up someone
on making bets on lotteries despite of the winning rate or odds which is close to impossible.

The most important thing on gambling field is that never ever make yourself spend on the money which is really that out of your limit because on the time that you are already doing this then you are basically
making yourself putting on such risks on devastating your finances which is something that must avoid while its still early.Each person does have different takes when it comes to
to certain things and having that self awareness on what they are doing.

I do not agree with what you are trying to say, I believe there is a walk of life that even have a higher form of belief and which is faith.  Religious people are the best example of what I am saying.  I actually disagree with you that a gambler has that belief because as a gambler, I am not confident about the result, though I hope for the best I don't believe that the next role result will be a max win. I believe many gamblers also have the same idea as me when it comes to gambling and gambling result

I reckon, there is a better walk of life where people are thinking for the betterment of themselves. We're not just used to it and we don't see it when we're focusing a lot on gambling. Everyone, you and me, are all the same for the results and they should be positive. However, we don't have control of the situation thus, the results always differ. People is simply taking risk and that's why we are unsure of what's going to be the result of it but it doesn't mean we don't believe that we're not going to win.

That analogy should make sense, but as far as I know, almost gambler is hope 100% won. no one to expect or hope intention to lose, normal gambler is expect to win after put his bet to the table. I also often to see gamblers have a plan like : after this winning I will stop, No, I rare to see this, they will definitely continue, and deviated from motivated before until spending all their money.

There are gamblers thinking that way even they know the chances to lose their money is high. It's because of their expectation that gambling is the answer to increase their funds easily. Though we know it's hard to win in gambling, they still keep on playing and just ignore the fact that you can lose your money if you're not lucky.

Well, it's not bad to play and believe you could win however don't get your hopes too high. If you do so, then that's the start of the problem because it can lead to addiction if you can't control yourself since you're hoping to win.

Gambling is risky, but the gamblers are left with no option than to anticipate in it. Gambling generates both profits and losses; it all depends on how much energy individuals invest in it. I've never seen somebody with a profound belief compared to losing gamblers. They are impoverished and always expect for the most favorable outcome of their predictions. As a gambler, one is expected to be optimistic and confident, otherwise the odds of profiting from the space are minimal. Gambling is the only source of income for some people who rely entirely on it.

At first I misunderstood your point but as I got to the end, I got. And what share the same thoughts with you on what you have said.
Gamblers have that unshakeable optimism just right before they place their bets. I fear that sometimes it makes to be lose track of the reality. But I understand and I do not blame them. These beliefs are fueled by past wins and so-called closed calls with a loss.

If a gambler by stroke of luck won his last bet and was able to double or triple his wager, his belief in winning the next bet would increase and grow stronger. If he has a close call with a win which is actually a loss he goes back, does a careful analysis of what happened and convinces himself that if he had used a different method, strategy he would have won. He would convince himself that he would use that strategy when next he gambles. All of these fuels his optimism and excitement to believe that he would win his next bet 100%.

Well, to be more precise, I'd say those people who purchased lottery tickets in a daily basis are the most hopeful and full of belief that one day they might hit the jackpot to have an early retirement and enjoy the rest of their lives. Some gamblers (casino gamblers) are actually not full of hope and belief, because there are others who are desperate to win, desperate to win back what he lost and desperate to beat the other player in the table.
Nevertheless, you can't just say that people with full of hope and beliefs can be best explained or an example is a gambler. In almost all aspects in our lives, we all are full of hope and belief to build a better life and a successful career. Honestly, I don't see any hopes in gambling, not unless if you own a casino or an online gambling website.  

In past I thought people behaving only through belief are making a mistake. I would generally blame them being blind to life. But after experiencing some different issues I realized belief is very important source of life. When gambler believes to be successful he can be. Belief is reason that will push you through taking risks. And risks can create awesome outcomes. In my opinion gamblers are doing something right.

Gambling is a process that people engage their minds in. Participating in gambling only presses the win button because their money is bet.  Especially since I myself am a bit addicted to gambling so I bet and only think about winning and keep my mind so strong that I wait until the game is over. Real gamblers are full of gambling all the time and earn more money with more experience and always aim to win more. Until the resource is exhausted, one only hopes to get the resource back (if lost). Many have lost their betting fortunes while making up for losses.

You have a point, but gambling is a game of luck that's needed to be treated as a game of luck, since you are betting on your luck you should know that we can't always be in good luck, that's where people need to wake up and use their senses.

Game of luck is something that we shouldn't have much expectations from, the luck side of thing should bother you if you know what you are doing, this is where you need to know that losing chance is much higher than winning side.

It's possible to win on a good luck day but it's much more possible to lose, you don't need to be told to gamble with low amount of money that won't remove a hair on your head for anything, expectations to make money from gambling should be the lowest.

Losing money through gambling is real and far more possible to happen.

You should reduce the time you gamble to reduce your gambling addiction. It's worth doing so you don't see your gambling addiction grow because if it grows and you lose control over yourself, it can make a mess of your life. Never think about winning because it will be difficult to get but enjoy gambling because gambling is just entertainment. Real gamblers can make money because they can limit themselves by not exceeding the limit, so they will not lose more money. Even though they were losing, they managed to control themselves well and took a moment to calm down their emotions.

Maybe that could be one of the way to stop being addicted, reduce your time to gamble so that it could be beneficial for the gambler it could help them to reduce gambling spree and will help them to reduce their expenses as well. In some thread they set a certain percentage that can help them to minimize gambling expenses but for me I think setting up just only a limited budget and time can help us to at least avoid addiction.

It's a never-ending cycle regardless of the outcome of their bets because that same hope will never cease as we have a saying that tomorrow is a new day, and that is the reality for us gamblers. Being hopeful is fine as long as we know how to keep our boundaries so that we can still keep ourselves entertained in every time we are gambling, the bad thing will start if we will be chasing after what is already lost, and worse it will become a habit.

absolutely. there should be a balance between realistic expectations and having an audacious goal. Having a clear set of rules with your gambling would be how much you are allowed to lose in a day, how much time can you dedicate each day, and how many transactions and deposits you could allow yourself. those rules will help you save money and not lose it because you have clear boundaries and rules for your gambling. This will also remind you that your luck is not every day. So when the signal is there that the odds are not yours, then just leave the table.

In most conditions of life, we tend to believe about some certain things even when we know that there's no certainty in what we are hoping or believing for, yet we make more steps in building confidence on a positive outcome, gambling is for fun and not for making money, it's not an investment or a means to earn profits as other businesses do, but when we have some earnings while gambling, it must be counted an opportunity and not a mandate we must always fulfil by making money from it.

is there any in-depth research on this topic of yours?

why do you generalize everything into one conclusion, fear must be possessed by gamblers because fear is one of human nature but self-confidence masks that fear.  people might think when i gamble, i'm not afraid of losing money but to be honest in my heart, i'm very afraid of losing money when gambling because getting money is a difficult thing nowadays but my confidence covers it especially in gambling which i'm very good at so the defeats i receive are very few.

The hope of a gambler often leads them into situations they often regret upon losing the funds that was meant for something else. Courage to do so without minding the cost is what even makes the gamblers belief in hope much stronger.

OP, you know we can also allot pride and ego to fit very well with hope in this gamblers corner, because the hope of winning must have been spurred from previous wins, and the mind that the cash used for gambling is inexhaustible and sufficient.
Inasmuch as what drives the gambler is different for different folks, hope for some individuals is nothing more of a believe in a better tomorrow and it has been programmed in the subconscious.
It only really manifest because the person has channeled it to focus on gambling.

This is actually a feeling or emotion that all gamblers have. For some reason, when you get involved in gambling, everyone has such an expectation and we can meet this as normal. Recently, a friend of mine made a profit of about 200 dollars with his last 1 dollar. This is actually due to the fact that we know / hope that things can turn around in an instant, no matter how desperate we are.

When you spend a lot of time in this industry, when you analyze and bet a lot, we know that it's time for things to change.We learn with experience where to stand, how much to bet and what kind of risk to take.It may cost us a little bit, but the experience gained at the end is priceless.As you said, we know that even seconds matter in gambling.This can be a football match or an e-sports match.Things can change at any time and we need to gamble in a way that we can take this risk.

Or is it possible that the adrenaline triggers us to continue our gambling activity?  We all know that in between the roll and result there is an adrenaline pumped experience.  Many people are addicted to this kind of feeling reason why the often sort it out by simply raising the bet amount in order to meet the needed adrenaline.

Anyway, I also think that gamblers hope for the best result but I think there is a difference between believe and hope in this case.  Gamblers often hope to win in every bet but they know that it is wrong to believe that every bet will win.

Reading this post just reminds me of my friend, I can  say when it comes to someone believing in predictions he is certainly the man with all the faith but funny sometimes when I get frustrated by my parley selection I usually try an opposite mentality on the games like thinking opposite of what I predicted to see if the outcome turns out good for me because most times when I believe my bet are going to play it usually just end up being lost.

I don't agree with this. I saw many people who started a loss-making business (this was evident even in theoretical calculations), but for some reason they believed that luck would smile on them and they would get rich. Or even those whose business for some reason became unprofitable, but they refused to accept this reality and "get off a dead horse." People are often irrational and this manifests itself not only in gambling but in all areas of our lives.

Every gambler believes that one day,they are going to win it big, that they are going to turn billionaires overnight without stressing themselves while making the money.Every gambler believes that it is better to die trying than not trying at all,every gambler believes that winners don't quit,and quitters never win so they won't ever quit trying.These and many more are what gamblers believes that keeps them going,they so much believe that in as much as some persons have won it big,they might still win it big someday,but one thing they fail to know is that luck varies,and grace varies,for the fact that it worked for Mr.A does not mean it will definitely work for B,but some persons,despite trying so many times and no avail,they don't ever want  to retreat,they just want to keep trying untill it will favour them.Winning  is not always quaranteed,but they choose to just continue loosing,and nomatter what,they will always want to try.

Sometimes, hope is a poison. When people rely on hope and forget to ground themselves in reality, and in turn they make the most deranged of choices in the name of hope and hoping that the odds will be in their favor, that's when things go sour. It's one thing to be hopeful, it's another to be delusional and think that just because you've been dealt a bad hand 99% of the time, the next try's going to give you the win you need. Life doesn't work like that, if it does then trying would be the biggest business and vocation now.

I hate that OP painted this stupid notion of the addicted gambler's mindset as if it's something to applaud and glorify, people lost lives and money because of this false hope, if you're going to depict hope in it's purest form find a different example lol.

if you happen to read it completely , I did not generalized all gamblers instead  i said not everyone , because lets admit the fact that once the gamblers turn addicted and given a chance to do such thing , i believe they can act to what I said but this only addressed those desperate gamblers and not the majority .
but doing bad just to win is indeed happening that is why there are lots of cheaters or even those taking advantage of the opportunity even if this is wrong because they wanted to win.

but I agreed in that point of yours because gamblers are prone to losing as in 70-90% and only the remaining percent is their chance to win.

And that keeps me staying despite constant losses. Just one big win, that is what I'm waiting and I will keep my distance in gambling. My hopes always shattered after I lost and at the same time reconstructed when starting a new session. I'm still very optimistic that one day, that one big win I'm waiting for will come.

I don't know, this sounds like a gambler who wasn't actually gambled in their life before and want to try it out now. Everybody that has visited a casino on a regular basis knows that we can't win 100% of the time. Losses are common in gambling and if we expect to win every night, we should find out the reality very quickly. Everybody wants to make money and win in gambling, but our positive thinking can't protect us from losses. The games we play at the casino are the same for everybody, if all gamblers would expect to win all the time, then the casino would go bankrupt very quickly. We shouldn't be listening to our brain if it tells us that we are going to win all the time. Having a strong belief helps people through hard times, so I would expect we rather need a strong belief when we are facing a losing streak, than when we are facing a winning streak. Another question is where the belief is coming from, some people take their belief from religion, others from physics. When it comes to gambling, I think we should be realists and focus on the mathematics behind the casino games and not to trust in a higher power that will let us win in the end.

Your chance to win will come one day but you must be patient. You have to be careful when betting so you don't experience a big loss and try to play gambling in moderation and not overly. With that, you can enjoy your gambling time and maybe it can trigger your luck to come. And I hope you are not frustrated by your defeat because it can trigger you to deposit more money just to chase victory. Don't let curiosity about winning make you gamble longer so you won't experience big losses.

Rightly said, when it comes to gambling you have to learn to control your emotions. Gambling is such an addiction that even after losing, there is an urge to win again which leads to losses. There is really no such thing as controlling one's emotions. It's like fighting with yourself having a conflict with the mind. But the special quality of man, he can do what he wants. No matter how difficult self-control is it is possible if you have your own will controlling emotions is part of self-control.

Depending on how big you are expecting that win to be your chances of obtaining it can go from being on the low side to be almost impossible to happen during your lifetime.

An example of this is the lottery which is a very popular gambling game, but at the same time it is almost impossible to win big as your odds are millions against one, so if you are not careful it is entirely possible you could run out of money before you even come close to get win you are looking for.

What's is a man without a thought of actually believing in something, even outside gambling humans all tend to put their faith in something believing in some of theory that's follow it and that's same sense that kicks in for every gambler because it's help feel they are know and even after seeing the results the drive to keep pushing is always there because they know and feel that one day they will get it right and this part of human nature is what have actually kept the gambling industry alive because these of humans are the ones that patronize the industry continually.

I'm not really sure what you meant by just one big win, unless it's really big like a lottery ticket winning. But if it just a regular win, then it might be very difficult to quit. On the contrary, you might want to think to come back and play for more as you have tasted winning already.

And if again, if you are thinking about lottery winnings, the odds are very slim. Although no one can stop you from trying to try to luck and win. Because we have heard countless stories of individuals who try to bet on lottery for the first time and then win as well. But it will take extreme luck to hit that jackpot and become a single winner.

There's nothing wrong with us grabbing good opportunities of the gambling system, we win and lose that's how the system operates. The earlier one get acquainted with it, the better. No one would be happy if they continue to record streak losses, there's always chance to try again because there would be opportunities in the system. I totally agreed with you, gambling for such a long period of time would only do one no good rather we remained stuck in the space and more vulnerable to whatever challenges that comes our way, and more efficiently we record losses on a daily basis.