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Bitcoin is an attractive option for money launders primarily because laundering money using cryptocurrencies is easier than other methods. In movies, criminals often transport illicit money across borders using duffel bags or suitcases to evade authorities; however you can trade with dirty bitcoin beacuse more sallers of dirty bitcoin take only 60 percent of full order price
more about dirty bitcoin and how to raise money on that in my tg @ malfa1teur

What is your definition for dirty bitcoin?

One Bitcoin transaction is made up of inputs and outputs and are you sure that bitcoins you own in your wallets are not dirty?

If initially your bitcoins are clean, but I doubt it, and you send it to centralized exchanges, trade there or just deposit and leave it there, then withdrawal, you will receive bitcoins from other UTXOs which are not sure to be clean or dirty.

Money laundering is everywhere and can be done by any means from fiat currency through digital bank transfer, cash, other means like gold, diamond and don't assume it only can be done with Bitcoin transactions.

Forget your belief that you can know and get clean or dirty bitcoins. It is non sense and you can not have any practice to make sure your coins are clean or dirty.

this is exactly the point my friend that now the number of dirty bitcoin traders is increasing, for example, you want to buy 100 dollars in bitcoins and paying only 60 for dirty bitcoins you will get your 100, I say this by my own example
If you are interested I can send you a link

Yes, send the link, so we can confirm what bullshit you are talking about. The way you talk you sound like someone who has a lot of ideas about how to launder money with Bitcoin but has no experience with it. It's the last straw when you mix traders with laundering and don't name the main ways to do it.

tg @ malfa1teur

If you have any genuine questions or dialogue to actually make about bitcoin even if you’re it’s hater, you can just bring that up and not by sending a link into the forum that would lead to a scam place. From the way you parade your telegram asking people to send you message, I can tell that you’re a scammer or a troll already and I would advice all forum members to avoid sending that message.

If you want to prove your point do it here the same way you were able to create a thread.

Peace

I sent a link to the person who adds people to the general group on this topic and did not indicate his account
this is a kind of guide to this conversation

Lol! It seems you are under some kind influence! Money launderers do not use Bitcoin. They have access to better tools and currencies to launder money. Have you ever heard of Zcash or XMR? Have you ever heard of NFT, especially those nonsense JPG images? These are way better than Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not much useful for money laundering to be honest.

Don't believe everything you see on movies. They are just as useless as your perception about Bitcoin. Get a life! Cheers!

Bitcoin is most definitely NOT a favored choice for money launderers. One is because BTC lacks true anonymity, as transactions are traceable on the blockchain. And the transaction fees and time are not cheap nor fast. Get your story straight before you try to convince me or anyone else.

At some time, criminals will prefer Bitcoin. We can't determine a person who do bad things through blockchain transactions only if he uses CEX. But I just want to make it obvious that money laundering was already taking place without Bitcoin. However, if your Bitcoin transactions are filthy, you can only be traced, especially if you transfer your Bitcoin to centralized exchanges, and your account will be frozen.

OP's moniker (idkwhatimdoinghere4039) is indeed a very hilarious but revealing one. Truly, "I Don't Know What I'm Doing Here" doesn't know what's happening here. What do you actually mean by idkwhatimdoinghere4039

Someone asked you what you meant by "dirty Bitcoin," and you're asking them to meet up with you on Telegram or receive external links. That's not a great strategy to win your arguments.

Whatever you smoked, that's one heck of a dirty drug. ;D
No one in this forum would risk their money for such a thing and I don't think they are stupid enough to believe that kind of scheme. It's too obvious what will happen to them next.
What is so good to be true cannot be trusted.
Find another place to spread this kind of lie because I always believe people who go here are wise enough to not step on that kind of bait.
TG will be the best place to stay because of the enormous number of members who offer this kind of sh*t. You have more possibility to get a victim there.

Not entirely true. If I go with your definition then we also have dirty fiat, dirty gold, dirty silver and dirty... what not? Are you sure bitcoin is the only way to launder the money. Money laundering has been around since very long and they continue to do so no matter what type of currency they their hands on. I am seeing a discussion where they are always blaming the bitcoin. However, criminals has already broken then code of using the fiat for such activities. At least in the case of Bitcoin it can be traced back from the sources however same is highly difficult when it comes to old notes in the fiat. In case of precious metals like gold, you can literally have unmarked assets at your hands to launder the money. People are even setting up fake businesses and paying the bills amongst each other so that they can launder the money and even pay the taxes for same. I think Bitcoin is really new to the field and should be targeted less as compare to previously available modes of transaction. 

Not only does he want to win his own argument, but also wants to trap lay members into his circle.
Whether it is called "Dirty Bitcoin", Legal or Illegal Bitcoin is still Bitcoin, dirty Bitcoin or clean Bitcoin is just a term for how someone gets the Bitcoin.
An interesting option to grow money is to invest, trade, and several other businesses in the cryptocurrency ecosystem.

Lol, there's no dirty or clean Bitcoin, Bitcoin is Bitcoin. What make most people think there's dirty or clean Bitcoin is because the chainalysis where they're against mixer and other high illicit sources where it's not actually forbidden because each country has their own laws.

Any currency or even any asset can be used for money laundering, should we ban every asset? there's always a crime or illegal thing when it's related to asset.

Profits look tempting, so what next?
In practice, you're always busy not to get caught. You'd be hard pressed to spend every 40% of your profits on that trade. Your space for movement is getting narrower, your life is isolated.
It's also easier to get you to jail.

You probably watch old films, because now it is impossible to cross the borders with a large amount of money and permits for each tourist are small 5-10 thousand dollars. Bitcoin may not be an attractive option for crime because experts are able to do blockchain analysis and monitor criminal transfers of cryptocurrencies in order to find criminals later.

What?

Seems like a Psychopathic theory..

What are you doing here and why are your ven discussing the so-called in your terminology Dirty Bitcoin if it is as dirty as you are explaining, what is your concern about dropping the links on DM's or to the people DM you on telegram? Whatever the reason buddy take a sip of whatever you drank before the post and go to bed because your parents will be angry if they found you posting shit and nonsense by using their PC or smartphone.

Keep in mind also Bitcoin is not for the Kids.. So you must study well to know the actual character of Bitcoin

The way you use a thing will determine if it is dirty or not. Bitcoin is a P2P online transaction currency. If you use it for a good purpose, it will stay good. If you use it for a bad purpose, it will become bad. You said it yourself, people can use money too for dirty business. Does that make money bad? NO, obviously not. I don't know what you are trying to say here just by pointing out Bitcoin. Yes, Bitcoin can be sent and received anonymously, and it could be sent at any location on earth. It is an easy way to stay out of the radar and do illegal transactions. But as it is in circulation, those coins could end up in any wallet.
So why would that make any difference? It only matters how you got that Bitcoin, and for what purpose you are using it for. If you want to trade and grow your money, just do that. Why should you be concerned if it comes from a dirty wallet? Bitcoin is decentralized and as long as you can keep it decentralized, this won't matter. The only thing that should matter is your way of using it.

Don't make it look like as if bitcoin is designed for this illegal purpose bitcoin is just a digital currency whereby people can use to hold their wealth or assets and exchange for them as well, money launderers take the risk to go about stealing from their victims any valuables and not with bitcoin or through bitcoin is any of these evil done, but they can choose to exchange their money or assets with bitcoin without anyone knowing or going through the means for their wealth accumulations just as you and I can go to the bank and make deposit and no one will query the source of our finance, the question we should ask is that are people not making money laundering with fiat right before bitcoin was being introduced.

No, it's not. It might be easy as it gets but money launderers prefer the hard cash money over crypto considering crypto is way too easy to track as it remains in the public. Wow, after reading this it's more like you're promoting that telegram of yours. By the way, what does your group shares? Tips and tricks?

This is why some people are hesitant about the nature of bitcoin because some people have their negative approach on this market.
This market has just been used by money launderers and other illegal actors because they are finding a way to hide their privacy.
But this market is not created for such purpose, it just evolves to one of these use cases because we can't control illegal activities in any monetary system.
Just like any type of currency, this market is not immune to those kind of people. We just need to be cautious dealing with such as we don't know what they can do to you to screw your hard-earned money.

Hmm, Whenever someone posts as the OP did or something relevant to Money Laundering and directly relates it with Bitcoin I use to wonder where they studied Bitcoin. Are they really know how the Bitcoin network works, Do they work on analyzing what the public ledger means, and if they really did so why they are asking such questions in conclusion 90% of such posters never did any searching on these topics. They just use to post what the media feed them and they are most of the cosmic illusionary theories addicts. Not a bit fond of facts.

I have heard of it but Bitcoin is still Bitcoin no matter what you describe it. There are other anonymous altcoins that these criminals can use if that's what you're trying to point out.

Having this type of deal with 60% less from the actual value might get you scammed.

If these criminals want no trace, they're gonna choose the privacy coins because they're better and as well as plain cash.