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Title: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Freedom4All on July 31, 2023, 10:18:59 AM
Hello Casino Bitcointalk Community,


I am going to concentrate to write what my thoughts are and use help where necesarry and also to not let it look as if it is just an advertisement from my side. Itīs broader.


First of all, this comes from me but also read it in general. I wrote this recently:

People without enough knowledge abouy cryptos het to hear, day in day out, CRYPTOS ARE BAD. Like drugs.
But many people do not buy that BS anymore.

So why donīt we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.
Crypto is freedom, no?
Well, that people are all screaming for freedom. And donīt know sjit about cryptos.



So, unless I am missing something and cryptos are dead, what do I miss?

Today, I'd like to share some thoughts on a unique opportunity that lies at the intersection of free speech, online communities, and as a human right, although a tricky business (like all businesses in the world) also the burgeoning world of cryptocurrency gambling.

As the owner of commonsensetv.nl, a well-established platform (2019) dedicated to free speech, once a very big platform but I wish I knew what I know now. My business skills were not that good but it was fun and the platform still exists and has a lot of potential to be the national place whe only real people can come and speak and no trolls, AI bots etcetera. For the moment we have between 1200-2000 visitors a day.

I've had my fair share of experiences with the traditional advertising world, but knew too little. I've tried the usual routes - Google's AdSense, affiliate programs, and the like. While these methods have their merits, they didn't quite align with my vision. It could have make me rich, by the way. Little did I know. It was not my goal either. I stood behind the deep sense of our platform. I still do, although opinions change. I think that is a good thing.

I would like to discuss an alternative path. One that not only strays from the beaten track but also bridges the gap between different online communities.

My idea is simple: Instead of relying on traditional advertising methods, why not explore the potential of direct advertising within the crypto gambling community? But here's the twist - instead of limiting this to crypto-focused platforms, we introduce these opportunities to a broader audience, such as the community at commonsensetv.nl.

Imagine a banner that not only promotes a crypto casino or service but also sparks a conversation about the potential of cryptocurrencies. Or a blog post that informs and entertains, subtly highlighting the benefits of a particular casino or game, while also educating readers about the broader implications of cryptocurrencies.

This approach allows for a more targeted advertising strategy, fostering a sense of community and mutual growth. It also opens up the door for long-term, creative collaborations. Think sponsored tournaments, branded games, or even the development of new, innovative gambling platforms.

By embracing these alternative advertising methods, we can create a more engaging, dynamic, and ultimately successful gambling sector. One that values creativity, community, and the unique opportunities that cryptocurrencies provide.

I'm eager to hear your thoughts on this and look forward to exploring these opportunities together.

Best Regards and I might post two or three very similar posts elsewhere on this forum. This is because I am still not sure what is the best place to attract the right people for this.



Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Cantsay on July 31, 2023, 10:50:54 AM
Best Regards and I might post two or three very similar posts elsewhere on this forum. This is because I am still not sure what is the best place to attract the right people for this.

If you ask me this is not a good idea, if you’re looking for more casino to recognize you then you should make your thread here in the gambling section or preferably gambling discussion but the moment you start to create multiple threads that has the same content then you’ll most likely not have any thread again because mod might take them to be a spam and delete all of them that is if you’re not ban for plagiarizing yourself.

The best thing to do is to create a thread that will start up good discussions that way others might wanna try your site out but if your thread becomes dead like other projects you might not be able to achieve what it is that you’re looking for. The best thing do right now is to lock the rest of your duplicate threads or deleted them if you can.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Freedom4All on July 31, 2023, 10:52:22 AM
Okay, that is a good one.

But if we forget my personal goals, is this something new?

EDIT: I never see, I call it traditional sites, I hope you understand me, that advertise for this world.That brings those worlds together.
MANY people want to, but have no clue. If it is in the anonymous casino playing, or really get "into it".

Think about older people as well. 50+, 60+, even just 40+ have no clue. I know this. I ask my audience. And i know myself. I pretend to, but when we go talk tecnical, I have no clue.
Thatīs why Iīm here as well. For a couple of reasons.

But not and never to screw someone here.
And I guess I have a big problem if I do.

The question is legit. If I think for hours about this, then it must be legit from my side.

People without enough knowledge abouy cryptos het to hear, day in day out, CRYPTOS ARE BAD. Like drugs.
But many people do not buy that BS anymore.

So why donīt we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.
Crypto is freedom, no?
Well, that people are all screaming for freedom. And donīt know sjit about cryptos.

So, unless I am missing something and cryptos are dead, what do I miss?


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Gozie51 on July 31, 2023, 11:24:24 AM
Well reading your thread I didn't see much that you wanted from those members that are not owners of gambling casinos or are not affiliates of them either. I think your post is to casinos that you may be seeking the kind of collaboration you want. So why don't you post on the threads of some of the casinos you want or send a pm to them directly or use their social media handles to reach to them directly. You either have a service you want to offer, maybe to them on the casino but this forum is specifically for bitcoin and crypto related concerns.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Freedom4All on July 31, 2023, 11:27:29 AM
Well reading your thread I didn't see much that you wanted from those members that are not owners of gambling casinos or are not affiliates of them either. I think your post is to casinos that you may be seeking the kind of collaboration you want. So why don't you post on the threads of some of the casinos you want or send a pm to them directly or use their social media handles to reach to them directly. You either have a service you want to offer, maybe to them on the casino but this forum is specifically for bitcoin and crypto related concerns.

Thank you, I appreciate it. Very useful. I wish I could give you merit, if that means anything.

But it is not just about me. Maybe I should mention that in OP:

I edited last post and wrote this in addition:

"People without enough knowledge abouy cryptos het to hear, day in day out, CRYPTOS ARE BAD. Like drugs.
But many people do not buy that BS anymore.

So why donīt we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.
Crypto is freedom, no?
Well, that people are all screaming for freedom. And donīt know sjit about cryptos.

So, unless I am missing something and cryptos are dead, what do I miss?"


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Gozie51 on July 31, 2023, 01:09:38 PM

So why donīt we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.
Crypto is freedom, no?
Well, that people are all screaming for freedom. And donīt know sjit about cryptos.

So, unless I am missing something and cryptos are dead, what do I miss?"

You have another platform that is bigger and better than this?where cryptocurrency, bitcoin or gambling ads are discussed and run? I'm thinking maybe you discuss directly with casino owners if your platform is about casinos and of course reputable. Or you throw up your service at the service board for signature campaign if you have the funds to organize that, signature managers will surely job on it for you and deliver good job, just my thinking.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: CryptSafe on July 31, 2023, 01:44:14 PM
So why donīt we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.

If I may ask what alternative source of media publicity are you talking about.  So far the social media, television and radio aspects of advertising have been consistently on in promoting Bitcoin and Crypto world wide. Crypto has a wide range of coverage globally only what is left now is adoption and integration and that has to do with the government policies Governing  each country to be favourable for smooth adoption process for Bitcoin and Crypto at large.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: coin-investor on July 31, 2023, 01:56:29 PM


I would like to discuss an alternative path. One that not only strays from the beaten track but also bridges the gap between different online communities.

My idea is simple: Instead of relying on traditional advertising methods, why not explore the potential of direct advertising within the crypto gambling community? But here's the twist - instead of limiting this to crypto-focused platforms, we introduce these opportunities to a broader audience, such as the community at commonsensetv.nl.

Imagine a banner that not only promotes a crypto casino or service but also sparks a conversation about the potential of cryptocurrencies. Or a blog post that informs and entertains, subtly highlighting the benefits of a particular casino or game, while also educating readers about the broader implications of cryptocurrencies.


I don't think this is new, many platforms on different niches already displayed Cryptocurrency based platforms like casinos if you are that confident become an affiliate of casinos and see your conversion if you want to offer your blog advertising for a fee, your site should have a good ranking and it has a good conversion, this is why casino review sites convert because they offer and explore what they advertise instead of just displaying banners.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Freedom4All on July 31, 2023, 02:14:43 PM
So why donīt we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.

If I may ask what alternative source of media publicity are you talking about.  So far the social media, television and radio aspects of advertising have been consistently on in promoting Bitcoin and Crypto world wide. Crypto has a wide range of coverage globally only what is left now is adoption and integration and that has to do with the government policies Governing  each country to be favourable for smooth adoption process for Bitcoin and Crypto at large.

That's the point of discussion.
My overall perception of the crypto community is that they aim to pique the curiosity of as many people as possible and turn them into crypto-enthusiasts.
On the other hand, where I've been coming from in recent years, media, governments, and even the so-called "Alternative Media" have long sold their souls and lost their independence (trust me, they try to buy you, but I'm not someone who sells his principles for money, despite appearances).

So, aside from casinos, which everyone has the right to play in without excessive KYC and government restrictions on how much you can play per day (in Spain it's €600), and being tracked every step of the way.

Now, regarding services, I should focus on services or perhaps ebooks or guides. Let's take my website as an example.

Now, I'm aware of AI. There's CHATGPT with all its plugins.
I could write an eBook about various aspects related to Bitcoin.

I have no issue with using AI as a tool to assist. However, I do have a problem with writing the eBook myself without having any knowledge about the subject.

I want my friends from my website to save some coins, knowing how to and learning what to do with it. I do not want them to make the banks happy.



I would like to discuss an alternative path. One that not only strays from the beaten track but also bridges the gap between different online communities.

My idea is simple: Instead of relying on traditional advertising methods, why not explore the potential of direct advertising within the crypto gambling community? But here's the twist - instead of limiting this to crypto-focused platforms, we introduce these opportunities to a broader audience, such as the community at commonsensetv.nl.

Imagine a banner that not only promotes a crypto casino or service but also sparks a conversation about the potential of cryptocurrencies. Or a blog post that informs and entertains, subtly highlighting the benefits of a particular casino or game, while also educating readers about the broader implications of cryptocurrencies.


I don't think this is new, many platforms on different niches already displayed Cryptocurrency based platforms like casinos if you are that confident become an affiliate of casinos and see your conversion if you want to offer your blog advertising for a fee, your site should have a good ranking and it has a good conversion, this is why casino review sites convert because they offer and explore what they advertise instead of just displaying banners.

I understand every word you say. And I have the feeling it is not new.
People contact me, shady people (no names, strange email) and they want me to pay for a guest post. I did it once and the guest post was exactly about a casino that fits here, maybe it is even active here. But after contacting (literally) tens of casinos I got 0 answers.

I miss something.
My site authority is 38.
We have 1k - 2k visitors a day.

We even come from 40k to 100k visitors a day. Yes, it sounds unbelievable, especially for a Dutch site, but it happened. Now, this was during corona. So spent many more hours online.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Freedom4All on July 31, 2023, 02:17:49 PM
EDIT: Apologize. moderator(s)

I merged two posts in one.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: CryptSafe on July 31, 2023, 02:52:33 PM
So why donīt we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.

If I may ask what alternative source of media publicity are you talking about.  So far the social media, television and radio aspects of advertising have been consistently on in promoting Bitcoin and Crypto world wide. Crypto has a wide range of coverage globally only what is left now is adoption and integration and that has to do with the government policies Governing  each country to be favourable for smooth adoption process for Bitcoin and Crypto at large.

So, aside from casinos, which everyone has the right to play in without excessive KYC and government restrictions on how much you can play per day (in Spain it's €600), and being tracked every step of the way.
 

I think you are getting it wrong here. Casinos do conduct KYC based on government policies governing their locations or place of registration. Most casinos demand for KYC irrespective of who you are. There are lots of casinos here which requires KYC for gamblers to register even if they claim to be a KYC free casino but upon winning, they change and tell you based on government policies that you do present your valid ID for verification purposes before withdrawal approval. So tell me is that KYC free? Is the KYC not as a result of government policies?

Another reasons for KYC is to note age of gamblers if they meet up with the government approved age in their country for gambling and lastly casinos demand for KYC to know countries on their restricted list.  I think you need to do a proper diligence OP.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: dimonstration on July 31, 2023, 03:07:03 PM
I think you are getting it wrong here. Casinos do conduct KYC based on government policies governing their locations or place of registration. Most casinos demand for KYC irrespective of who you are. There are lots of casinos here which requires KYC for gamblers to register even if they claim to be a KYC free casino but upon winning, they change and tell you based on government policies that you do present your valid ID for verification purposes before withdrawal approval. So tell me is that KYC free? Is the KYC not as a result of government policies?

Correct. KYC is a requirement for Anti Money Laundering so that government make sure that all players in the casino doesn’t violate the law.

Regarding the casino that claim KYC free but later on ask user for it. I’m sure only shady casino do this and also those casino license to operate is the only casino allowed to require KYC legally and most of the licensed casino can ask KYC based on their ToS and doesn’t boast KYC free.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: CryptSafe on July 31, 2023, 03:35:36 PM
I think you are getting it wrong here. Casinos do conduct KYC based on government policies governing their locations or place of registration. Most casinos demand for KYC irrespective of who you are. There are lots of casinos here which requires KYC for gamblers to register even if they claim to be a KYC free casino but upon winning, they change and tell you based on government policies that you do present your valid ID for verification purposes before withdrawal approval. So tell me is that KYC free? Is the KYC not as a result of government policies?

Correct. KYC is a requirement for Anti Money Laundering so that government make sure that all players in the casino doesn’t violate the law.

Regarding the casino that claim KYC free but later on ask user for it. I’m sure only shady casino do this and also those casino license to operate is the only casino allowed to require KYC legally and most of the licensed casino can ask KYC based on their ToS and doesn’t boast KYC free.

Government did the kyc because of the anti money laundering act. So they want to keep watch of every transaction from every financial institution in their jurisdiction so as not to loss and keep anything suspicious on track. Be it casino, sportbook etc. As for casinos that claim kyc free, I  think that is just a stunt to gain traffic to their site and to gain more members because online gamblers prefer a kyc free casino to preserve their identity so those casino takes advantage of it to hold them down and when they win big, withdrawal is always a problem and they start demanding for kyc and if they are scammers they run away with gamblers funds.

Truly all licensed casino from the government demand for kyc as that is a criteria which they would require to do before admitting any gambler to opening an account with them and  operating as a gambler so as not to violate the country policies.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Ulven on July 31, 2023, 08:51:56 PM
I believe you are trying to develop your advertising platform for startups, including reputable cryptocurrency casinos. It's a great initiative that can be beneficial, but it's not that simple. It requires more effort as you'll be expected to provide a weekly blog post about gambling and promotional offers available at most casinos. Your website also needs to be ranked to attract offers from different parties. I wish you success in this endeavor.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: AmoreJaz on July 31, 2023, 09:32:52 PM
I believe you are trying to develop your advertising platform for startups, including reputable cryptocurrency casinos. It's a great initiative that can be beneficial, but it's not that simple. It requires more effort as you'll be expected to provide a weekly blog post about gambling and promotional offers available at most casinos. Your website also needs to be ranked to attract offers from different parties. I wish you success in this endeavor.

it would take time and resources to keep afloat about the business you want to venture with. i understand, the OP is trying to get insights from the community. but if you don't have the luxury to wait for your potential clients in order to sustain your business, better look for another business idea that will truly give you potential profits at a short period of time. in this industry, reputation is very important to move forward, so it means, it will be years in the making. if you do really want to pursue this market, you should have other means of income that can back up your current endeavours.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: QueenVera on July 31, 2023, 09:50:13 PM
Hello Casino Bitcointalk Community,


I am going to concentrate to write what my thoughts are and use help where necesarry and also to not let it look as if it is just an advertisement from my side. Itīs broader.


First of all, this comes from me but also read it in general. I wrote this recently:

People without enough knowledge abouy cryptos het to hear, day in day out, CRYPTOS ARE BAD. Like drugs.
But many people do not buy that BS anymore.

So why donīt we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.
Crypto is freedom, no?
Well, that people are all screaming for freedom. And donīt know sjit about cryptos.



 I find this very interesting but I think the creation of this thread  alone is enough so as not to attract suspicions that's could lead to a ban on your account, I think you did a great job by creating awareness on how to educate people about crypto and how to go about it, because constant information would help enlighten them to understand about crypto and desist from the wrong ideas they have about it, there are some gamblers that's are yet to know that there are crypto casino and that crypto can be used in gambling on different platforms apart from their various fiat currencies.
 Also the creation of banners and posters would help those that reside in rural area, especially areas that are not yet exposed to modern technologies. I belive this movement would create an awareness that something of such exist and might also motivate them to want to learn about it and discover the benefits of partaking in cryptocurrency investments.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Blitzboy on July 31, 2023, 10:26:57 PM
True, the general public tends to view cryptocurrencies as the proverbial "bad guy," and thats a mindset we should try to change.

It sounds like you're recommending that websites like commonsensetv.nl be used to spread information about cryptocurrencies and the freedom it represents. I can see the value in your suggestion; its outside the norm and it could end up being successful. There is, however, a major "but" that must be taken into account.

While cryptocurrencies do remove certain regulatory barriers to entry, they also arent foolproof. Therefore, advocating for it as the sole route to independence may be deceptive. Therefore, it is essential to emphasize both the advantages and disadvantages.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Freedom4All on August 01, 2023, 05:06:55 AM
QueenVera and Blitzboy:

Thatīs indeed how I see it.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Kakmakr on August 01, 2023, 06:47:14 AM
Your site are basically a platform for "Free Speech" ..so I reckon the traditional advertisers might clash with some of the views and opinions that are discussed there, so you are looking for advertisers that are more open-minded... right?

Well, the Crypto currency world are full of open-minded people and also people with Libertarian goals. So your site will fit like a glove for many of these companies that share these goals.

Crypto Casinos are not 100% behind the "Freedom" goals, some just converted from the old Brick-n-mortar model to chase new revenue sources.  ::)


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 01, 2023, 08:43:30 AM
I read all of your replies and ugh, damn it, I did. You want to make something different from the advertising media that you have often seen. It's a good idea because it will intrigue the people who see it and surely they will find out more about crypto (if the ad is related to crypto). Your idea is going well because it introduces crypto and information about crypto knowledge being carried out by sources and people, making people even more interested in following it. So far, people have been learning about crypto based on programs such as Ponzi, HYIP, Cloud Mining, Fast Trading, and Investment Programs.

If you can implement your idea into an advertising medium, it will make people curious. So that a dialogue will occur between them and the source (if the advertisement refers to an online meeting). They can interact with sources or experts in their fields to learn more about crypto from the right sources.

And for KYC, it looks like this could become more stringent in the future, especially for the gambling business, because the government wants to limit the movement of the perpetrators of illegal activities in utilizing crypto. For this reason, casinos have started implementing KYC for all of their members, especially those who use big money to do KYC. After doing KYC, the casino will know who is behind the gambling account using big money. If the casino reports it to the government, the government can also see that the person is not related to any illegal activities.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: robelneo on August 01, 2023, 09:26:59 AM


I would like to discuss an alternative path. One that not only strays from the beaten track but also bridges the gap between different online communities.
That alternative path is only good if it converts, everything we all know about advertising and marketing whether it is traditional or alternative depends on interaction and conversion, advertisers pay for leads and conversion.

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My idea is simple: Instead of relying on traditional advertising methods, why not explore the potential of direct advertising within the crypto gambling community? But here's the twist - instead of limiting this to crypto-focused platforms, we introduce these opportunities to a broader audience, such as the community at commonsensetv.nl.

Imagine a banner that not only promotes a crypto casino or service but also sparks a conversation about the potential of cryptocurrencies. Or a blog post that informs and entertains, subtly highlighting the benefits of a particular casino or game, while also educating readers about the broader implications of cryptocurrencies.

The question is will it generate interest, the main reason why Facebook advertising is successful is because the platform targeted users' interests based on the advertiser preferences, one example is I like Boxing so on a sports website where I am a subscriber if they show advertising like cooking do you think I will be interested to look at those cooking banners knowing I am a worse cook of course I will just ignore it, but if they displayed an article about up and coming fight between two undefeated champions 100% I'll click on it.


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This approach allows for a more targeted advertising strategy, fostering a sense of community and mutual growth. It also opens up the door for long-term, creative collaborations. Think sponsored tournaments, branded games, or even the development of new, innovative gambling platforms.

By embracing these alternative advertising methods, we can create a more engaging, dynamic, and ultimately successful gambling sector. One that values creativity, community, and the unique opportunities that cryptocurrencies provide.
The question is have you tried it, the bottom line is conversion happens when users' interests and platforms meet, you mentioned that you've tried Adsense and Affiliate programs what's with these two types of advertising that you think is lacking in terms of leads and conversion?



Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Freedom4All on August 01, 2023, 10:02:18 AM


I would like to discuss an alternative path. One that not only strays from the beaten track but also bridges the gap between different online communities.
That alternative path is only good if it converts, everything we all know about advertising and marketing whether it is traditional or alternative depends on interaction and conversion, advertisers pay for leads and conversion.
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If I understand the concept right about Signature Campaigns and they make money of it because people here on this forum make publicity by placing a casino or service in their signature. Then I would say the convertion rate at a traditional website is higher. Not?


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: robelneo on August 01, 2023, 12:45:27 PM

If I understand the concept right about Signature Campaigns and they make money of it because people here on this forum make publicity by placing a casino or service in their signature. Then I would say the convertion rate at a traditional website is higher. Not?

The signature campaign is both for lead generation and in my own words branding through visibility, here in Bitcoin signature campaign projects are branding themselves through visibility and reputation, people have a recall on products and services when they keep seeing them, so when they think of soft drink they easily recall Coke and when they think of shoes they think of Adidas and Nike because they have recall because of their visibility.

The success of the signature campaign here depends so much on the bounty manager because he is the one selecting participants who can generate good conversations on topics that will interest visitors from search engines and on this forum.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: KingsDen on August 01, 2023, 03:47:55 PM

If I understand the concept right about Signature Campaigns and they make money of it because people here on this forum make publicity by placing a casino or service in their signature. Then I would say the convertion rate at a traditional website is higher. Not?

The signature campaign is both for lead generation and in my own words branding through visibility, here in Bitcoin signature campaign projects are branding themselves through visibility and reputation, people have a recall on products and services when they keep seeing them,

Lead generation is what the forum signature campaign knows how to do well. Before now, I had thought that the signature campaign is only targeted for users in the forum only. Little did I know that this forum indexing in google is so high. There are some certain  key words that directs people to this forum. E.G Bitcoin gambling, cryptocurrency gambling etc. Those keywords leads people direct to the gambling section of this forum.

The success of the signature campaign here depends so much on the bounty manager because he is the one selecting participants who can generate good conversations on topics that will interest visitors from search engines and on this forum.
I understand that campaign managers play big role in the promotion of any project. But in the context you described it, it doesn’t fit so well. For instance, if a quality poster makes an engaging post that brings someone to the forum, once the person is here, he/she will see other signatures even the one of competitors.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Yatsan on August 01, 2023, 04:15:27 PM

If I understand the concept right about Signature Campaigns and they make money of it because people here on this forum make publicity by placing a casino or service in their signature. Then I would say the convertion rate at a traditional website is higher. Not?

The signature campaign is both for lead generation and in my own words branding through visibility, here in Bitcoin signature campaign projects are branding themselves through visibility and reputation, people have a recall on products and services when they keep seeing them, so when they think of soft drink they easily recall Coke and when they think of shoes they think of Adidas and Nike because they have recall because of their visibility.

The success of the signature campaign here depends so much on the bounty manager because he is the one selecting participants who can generate good conversations on topics that will interest visitors from search engines and on this forum.
Yes, just a type of advertisement, as sinple as it sound. But with regards to convertion rate, I doubt typical websites would be higher. Indeed there'll be larger audience but this is where familiarity would take place. More people would be able to see a project which is being advertised in a typical website in comparison to this forum BUT ideal targets are in this forum which would have higher tendency to hook up investors. Quite of a matter of quality over quantity 'coz what could be the impression to non-crypto investors if they happen to come across a non-familiar investment or project? Scam. There is a higher tendency for a conversion rate for people who knows what is that 'something' in front of them.

And same thing I guess with gambling ads in this forum. If it is gambling then yes an advertisement on a typical site would be catchy. But question is, would they engage given that mode of payment is different from what they are used to? (assuming this instance on a typical website ads for crypto gambling project).


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: CryptSafe on August 01, 2023, 04:51:15 PM
And for KYC, it looks like this could become more stringent in the future, especially for the gambling business, because the government wants to limit the movement of the perpetrators of illegal activities in utilizing crypto. For this reason, casinos have started implementing KYC for all of their members, especially those who use big money to do KYC. After doing KYC, the casino will know who is behind the gambling account using big money. If the casino reports it to the government, the government can also see that the person is not related to any illegal activities.
The government from the unset do a regular checkmate of activities so as to o keep trail of financial flows to and fro a system. Doing this helps them keep track of illegal activities in possibly money laundering and others which is not in line with the law. They had to extend it to Crypto and casino because it is perceived that these are another conduit crimes are being committed hence they demanded for all casinos within their jurisdiction to conduct KYC for all their members and also charged  with the responsibility of reporting and complying with the government agencies whenever there is need to. So for the talk of casino being KYC free is Impossible and as time goes on, virtually all casinos would be on the list of KYC casino and non would be exempted.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 02, 2023, 02:44:46 AM
The government from the unset do a regular checkmate of activities so as to o keep trail of financial flows to and fro a system. Doing this helps them keep track of illegal activities in possibly money laundering and others which is not in line with the law. They had to extend it to Crypto and casino because it is perceived that these are another conduit crimes are being committed hence they demanded for all casinos within their jurisdiction to conduct KYC for all their members and also charged  with the responsibility of reporting and complying with the government agencies whenever there is need to. So for the talk of casino being KYC free is Impossible and as time goes on, virtually all casinos would be on the list of KYC casino and non would be exempted.
That's right. In the past, what was supervised was exchanges where many exchanges had members who were the whales so exchanges were asked to perform KYC on their members. And now, the government is starting to pay attention to crypto casinos and asking casinos also to perform KYC on their members. Crypto users will not be able to use their crypto freely, especially if they want to deal with businesses that have something to do with the government. Meanwhile, the government wants to try to eradicate money laundering and other illegal activities. It seems that it is not easy because money launderers may use other unconventional methods and I think they also often use the black market to make transactions.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: aioc on August 02, 2023, 07:38:15 AM

My idea is simple: Instead of relying on traditional advertising methods, why not explore the potential of direct advertising within the crypto gambling community? But here's the twist - instead of limiting this to crypto-focused platforms, we introduce these opportunities to a broader audience, such as the community at commonsensetv.nl.

Imagine a banner that not only promotes a crypto casino or service but also sparks a conversation about the potential of cryptocurrencies. Or a blog post that informs and entertains, subtly highlighting the benefits of a particular casino or game, while also educating readers about the broader implications of cryptocurrencies.

Based on this you want online casinos to advertise on your site which is a non Cryptocurrency platform you have to convince them that you can do better than Bitcointalk and casino reviews sites because these two platforms have proven their platform to generate lead and conversion, you can start by being an affiliate, casino affiliate programs are rewarding, if you have VIP referrals but to ask them to by an advertising package on your site which is not a casino based platform you need to have convincing power and show results, casinos will not spend money if they are not getting results.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: tusandii on August 02, 2023, 08:28:09 AM
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That's right. In the past, what was supervised was exchanges where many exchanges had members who were the whales so exchanges were asked to perform KYC on their members. And now, the government is starting to pay attention to crypto casinos and asking casinos also to perform KYC on their members. Crypto users will not be able to use their crypto freely, especially if they want to deal with businesses that have something to do with the government. Meanwhile, the government wants to try to eradicate money laundering and other illegal activities. It seems that it is not easy because money launderers may use other unconventional methods and I think they also often use the black market to make transactions.
For crypto, the government has the authority to ask every crypto exchange to implement KYC so that no money laundering activities occur there, but for casinos or the gambling industry, KYC is actually carried out not only to suppress money laundering but also to suppress gamblers who commit acts of fraud or deception.
Everything is a business and none of the business owners is willing that what is being built has to be destroyed because there are irresponsible persons such as criminals who launder money to remove traces or even those who like to cheat.

Nowadays the gambling industry is growing very rapidly and there is more and more money circulating in it, that's why some people want to take advantage of it for their personal benefit.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: CryptSafe on August 02, 2023, 11:35:54 AM
The government from the unset do a regular checkmate of activities so as to o keep trail of financial flows to and fro a system. Doing this helps them keep track of illegal activities in possibly money laundering and others which is not in line with the law. They had to extend it to Crypto and casino because it is perceived that these are another conduit crimes are being committed hence they demanded for all casinos within their jurisdiction to conduct KYC for all their members and also charged  with the responsibility of reporting and complying with the government agencies whenever there is need to. So for the talk of casino being KYC free is Impossible and as time goes on, virtually all casinos would be on the list of KYC casino and non would be exempted.
That's right. In the past, what was supervised was exchanges where many exchanges had members who were the whales so exchanges were asked to perform KYC on their members. And now, the government is starting to pay attention to crypto casinos and asking casinos also to perform KYC on their members. Crypto users will not be able to use their crypto freely, especially if they want to deal with businesses that have something to do with the government. Meanwhile, the government wants to try to eradicate money laundering and other illegal activities. It seems that it is not easy because money launderers may use other unconventional methods and I think they also often use the black market to make transactions.

Crypto was initially design to be an anonymous platform with ones privacy intact but now the reverse is the case. Actually, it was the crypto exchanges that were held responsible by buy the government to enact the KYC policies which was followed and it has been a regular norm with the crypto exchanges now that every one member must undergo a KYC before they transact. Even at then, there are limits for verified and unverified account holders on Crypto exchanges based on your level of KYC accessment with the exchange with limits members to some certain amount of withdrawal.

With these measures, withdrawals are always tracked easily but the more the government of press, the more new means are implored by people to escape the KYC measures and as you have said, I would not doubt the fact that black market would be their alternative means or source of transportation.

For crypto, the government has the authority to ask every crypto exchange to implement KYC so that no money laundering activities occur there, but for casinos or the gambling industry, KYC is actually carried out not only to suppress money laundering but also to suppress gamblers who commit acts of fraud or deception.
Everything is a business and none of the business owners is willing that what is being built has to be destroyed because there are irresponsible persons such as criminals who launder money to remove traces or even those who like to cheat.

Nowadays the gambling industry is growing very rapidly and there is more and more money circulating in it, that's why some people want to take advantage of it for their personal benefit.

Of a truth since the inception of crypto, the gambling industry has seen unprecedented growth and expansion with recorded sustainable successes from casinos and individuals who has benefited hugely from the industry and as such, it became apparent that the casinos are becoming more advanced and technology inclined with huge revenue generation and in circulation. Hence the government interference in the activities of the casinos and mandated them to carry out KYC as that is the next step or possibly another conduit for scammers and money launderers to look into.

Nevertheless, casino owners and management are fully aware of the gimmicks of scammers, cheaters and manipulators so they would also want to be on the safe side too by conducting a KYC on their clients so that they know who they are dealing with and also i believe casinos communicate amongst themselves hence they share details of such people  so that they do not run at loss at anytime and if such people register with them, they would keep a close watch on them and this has made me begin to have the thought that most of the complaints against casino here must be as a result of this actions and that casinos know who they are that is why most casinos do not reply because if they do a whole lots would be unveiled that is why sometimes they chose to remain silent over some complaints.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Ronsbit on August 02, 2023, 03:37:29 PM
I believe you are trying to develop your advertising platform for startups, including reputable cryptocurrency casinos. It's a great initiative that can be beneficial, but it's not that simple. It requires more effort as you'll be expected to provide a weekly blog post about gambling and promotional offers available at most casinos. Your website also needs to be ranked to attract offers from different parties. I wish you success in this endeavor.
This task OP is about taking up is not a small one. As you have said, OP would be up and doing in furnishing the public with blogs and articles that are current and worth reading. It should be updated with development in the casino industry at large. To be relevant, the website would need to compete with other websites to be amongst the most viewed, visited and engaging website so as to remain amongst the top. The journey is never that smooth but with courage and commitment, I think OP could scale through.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 03, 2023, 07:55:52 AM
For crypto, the government has the authority to ask every crypto exchange to implement KYC so that no money laundering activities occur there, but for casinos or the gambling industry, KYC is actually carried out not only to suppress money laundering but also to suppress gamblers who commit acts of fraud or deception.
Everything is a business and none of the business owners is willing that what is being built has to be destroyed because there are irresponsible persons such as criminals who launder money to remove traces or even those who like to cheat.

Nowadays the gambling industry is growing very rapidly and there is more and more money circulating in it, that's why some people want to take advantage of it for their personal benefit.
That's why casinos have started enforcing KYC on their members who are seen spending big money or looking suspicious so that the casinos can immediately find out what's happening. Casinos also don't want to get involved in any problems that could disrupt their business because casino owners want to run their businesses long-term. At the same time, the government is trying to cooperate with all businesses to track down money launderers so they can reduce the amount of money laundering and clean up illegal businesses. With the development of the gambling industry at this time, the government is trying to be more serious in dealing with illegal businesses by providing supervision to all business owners and their businesses.

Crypto was initially design to be an anonymous platform with ones privacy intact but now the reverse is the case. Actually, it was the crypto exchanges that were held responsible by buy the government to enact the KYC policies which was followed and it has been a regular norm with the crypto exchanges now that every one member must undergo a KYC before they transact. Even at then, there are limits for verified and unverified account holders on Crypto exchanges based on your level of KYC accessment with the exchange with limits members to some certain amount of withdrawal.

With these measures, withdrawals are always tracked easily but the more the government of press, the more new means are implored by people to escape the KYC measures and as you have said, I would not doubt the fact that black market would be their alternative means or source of transportation.
But along with the development of crypto and the exchange business and other businesses, the government is suspicious of money laundering activities using crypto so the government is trying to find out who are the people who use crypto in exchange, gambling and other businesses. The government doesn't want to lose a moment. It can be used to track down people who do illegal business because it could potentially lose huge profits for the country.

Exchange or gambling businesses seem to know already the account characteristics of someone involved in illegal activity so the owners of these businesses may have started to suspect the movements of the perpetrators of the illegal activity. Business owners will immediately ask them to do KYC to find out the background of the account owner. And if they are suspected of having anything to do with illegal activity, they can immediately report the results to the government.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: CryptSafe on August 03, 2023, 10:04:41 PM
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Crypto was initially design to be an anonymous platform with ones privacy intact but now the reverse is the case. Actually, it was the crypto exchanges that were held responsible by buy the government to enact the KYC policies which was followed and it has been a regular norm with the crypto exchanges now that every one member must undergo a KYC before they transact. Even at then, there are limits for verified and unverified account holders on Crypto exchanges based on your level of KYC accessment with the exchange with limits members to some certain amount of withdrawal.

With these measures, withdrawals are always tracked easily but the more the government of press, the more new means are implored by people to escape the KYC measures and as you have said, I would not doubt the fact that black market would be their alternative means or source of transportation.
But along with the development of crypto and the exchange business and other businesses, the government is suspicious of money laundering activities using crypto so the government is trying to find out who are the people who use crypto in exchange, gambling and other businesses. The government doesn't want to lose a moment. It can be used to track down people who do illegal business because it could potentially lose huge profits for the country.

Exchange or gambling businesses seem to know already the account characteristics of someone involved in illegal activity so the owners of these businesses may have started to suspect the movements of the perpetrators of the illegal activity. Business owners will immediately ask them to do KYC to find out the background of the account owner. And if they are suspected of having anything to do with illegal activity, they can immediately report the results to the government.

Truly the government is always on the track of account holders and you know they know themselves but one thing I believe is that the government knows all the money launderers in their various countries, they know those who indulge in nefarious act and would not go after them but are ready to trouble these organisations such as casinos, exchanges etc just to get revenue from them all in the name of keeping track of account holders. Even the casino owners knows this too. They know accounts of money launderers and others but sometimes they just disguise themselves and pretend not to know as to get their pockets.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: DoublerHunter on August 03, 2023, 10:19:35 PM
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But along with the development of crypto and the exchange business and other businesses, the government is suspicious of money laundering activities using crypto so the government is trying to find out who are the people who use crypto in exchange, gambling and other businesses. The government doesn't want to lose a moment. It can be used to track down people who do illegal business because it could potentially lose huge profits for the country.

Exchange or gambling businesses seem to know already the account characteristics of someone involved in illegal activity so the owners of these businesses may have started to suspect the movements of the perpetrators of the illegal activity. Business owners will immediately ask them to do KYC to find out the background of the account owner. And if they are suspected of having anything to do with illegal activity, they can immediately report the results to the government.

Truly the government is always on the track of account holders and you know they know themselves but one thing I believe is that the government knows all the money launderers in their various countries, they know those who indulge in nefarious act and would not go after them but are ready to trouble these organisations such as casinos, exchanges etc just to get revenue from them all in the name of keeping track of account holders. Even the casino owners knows this too. They know accounts of money launderers and others but sometimes they just disguise themselves and pretend not to know as to get their pockets.
^ As for casino owners and financial institutions, they are also bound by strict regulations to report suspicious activities and cooperate with authorities in combating money laundering. Failing to do so can lead to severe consequences for these establishments.
However, it is also true that some individuals or organizations probably try to evade detection, making it challenging for authorities to catch every offender, and the government agencies prioritize some targets over others due to resource constraints, it does not necessarily imply that they condone illegal behavior. The focus on certain sectors like casinos and exchanges may be due to their susceptibility to being used as conduits for money laundering.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: uneng on August 03, 2023, 10:22:59 PM
Imagine a banner that not only promotes a crypto casino or service but also sparks a conversation about the potential of cryptocurrencies. Or a blog post that informs and entertains, subtly highlighting the benefits of a particular casino or game, while also educating readers about the broader implications of cryptocurrencies.

This approach allows for a more targeted advertising strategy, fostering a sense of community and mutual growth. It also opens up the door for long-term, creative collaborations. Think sponsored tournaments, branded games, or even the development of new, innovative gambling platforms.
I don't understand the difference between the proposed concept and the currently traditional advertising methods. For me they look pretty similar to not say they are exactly the same thing. There are many blogs and banners on the internet trying to be informative, while promoting a crypto service like a casino or exchange. They are full of informations, including videos on youtube, aiming to bring new users for the platforms through a referral link from the advertiser who will profit over his referrals.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Wexnident on August 03, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
So basically an alternative way of trying to advertise that crypto isn't bad or something? Well tbf, this is more like turning it into propaganda since we're trying to push that crypto is good, when in a sense, it's actually neither. It's just a medium, a method, whoever uses it are the ones in the wrong. And presenting both sides through advertisement isn't exactly easy, neither is it profitable so I highly doubt casinos would be enticed to do it. They aren't wrong to suspect crypto of something, it is indeed a fact that a lot of scammy stuff has happened in the past, and well, with how the media works it isn't that surprising that the highlight for most of these news are the scam ones, it's what brings in views.
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I don't understand the difference between the proposed concept and the currently traditional advertising methods. For me they look pretty similar to not say they are exactly the same thing. There are many blogs and banners on the internet trying to be informative, while promoting a crypto service like a casino or exchange. They are full of informations, including videos on youtube, aiming to bring new users for the platforms through a referral link from the advertiser who will profit over his referrals.
I don't think there's even one at all. The only thing that was changed was the info, this time from casinos advertising themselves to casinos advertising that crypto is good, which again highlights my point of the idea of not being profitable in the first place, hence not really applicable.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 04, 2023, 06:24:17 AM
Truly the government is always on the track of account holders and you know they know themselves but one thing I believe is that the government knows all the money launderers in their various countries, they know those who indulge in nefarious act and would not go after them but are ready to trouble these organisations such as casinos, exchanges etc just to get revenue from them all in the name of keeping track of account holders. Even the casino owners knows this too. They know accounts of money launderers and others but sometimes they just disguise themselves and pretend not to know as to get their pockets.
The government can easily find all the transactions we make and maybe they will also investigate all the assets we have to find out whether we are involved in money laundering or using the money for things unrelated to illegal activities. And the government also has a list of people suspected of money laundering so they can arrest them whenever they want. But the government is waiting for the right time to catch those who commit money laundering. So casinos will carry out promotions that will not conflict with government regulations and may help the government catch people who are laundering money in casinos.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Freedom4All on August 04, 2023, 06:30:26 PM


I would like to discuss an alternative path. One that not only strays from the beaten track but also bridges the gap between different online communities.
That alternative path is only good if it converts, everything we all know about advertising and marketing whether it is traditional or alternative depends on interaction and conversion, advertisers pay for leads and conversion.

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My idea is simple: Instead of relying on traditional advertising methods, why not explore the potential of direct advertising within the crypto gambling community? But here's the twist - instead of limiting this to crypto-focused platforms, we introduce these opportunities to a broader audience, such as the community at commonsensetv.nl.

Imagine a banner that not only promotes a crypto casino or service but also sparks a conversation about the potential of cryptocurrencies. Or a blog post that informs and entertains, subtly highlighting the benefits of a particular casino or game, while also educating readers about the broader implications of cryptocurrencies.

The question is will it generate interest, the main reason why Facebook advertising is successful is because the platform targeted users' interests based on the advertiser preferences, one example is I like Boxing so on a sports website where I am a subscriber if they show advertising like cooking do you think I will be interested to look at those cooking banners knowing I am a worse cook of course I will just ignore it, but if they displayed an article about up and coming fight between two undefeated champions 100% I'll click on it.


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This approach allows for a more targeted advertising strategy, fostering a sense of community and mutual growth. It also opens up the door for long-term, creative collaborations. Think sponsored tournaments, branded games, or even the development of new, innovative gambling platforms.

By embracing these alternative advertising methods, we can create a more engaging, dynamic, and ultimately successful gambling sector. One that values creativity, community, and the unique opportunities that cryptocurrencies provide.
The question is have you tried it, the bottom line is conversion happens when users' interests and platforms meet, you mentioned that you've tried Adsense and Affiliate programs what's with these two types of advertising that you think is lacking in terms of leads and conversion?



"The question is will it generate interest, the main reason why Facebook advertising is successful is because the platform targeted users' interests based on the advertiser preferences, one example is I like Boxing so on a sports website where I am a subscriber if they show advertising like cooking do you think I will be interested to look at those cooking banners knowing I am a worse cook of course I will just ignore it, but if they displayed an article about up and coming fight between two undefeated champions 100% I'll click on it."

The answer lies in trying it.
Does not have to be a casino.
Who wants to advertise on my blog in a constructive way. I can use the money. BADLY. Thatīs another story. Sjit happens.  But hey, I will do it for free if it has t o be that way.

Wouldn't these signatures generate more traffic on blogs like mine, and many others, than they currently do here??
And is tha good for the crypto community? Is that a good thing for the world?

Or am I really missing knowledge here?


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Webetcoins on August 04, 2023, 08:35:56 PM
Government did the kyc because of the anti money laundering act. So they want to keep watch of every transaction from every financial institution in their jurisdiction so as not to loss and keep anything suspicious on track. Be it casino, sportbook etc. As for casinos that claim kyc free, I  think that is just a stunt to gain traffic to their site and to gain more members because online gamblers prefer a kyc free casino to preserve their identity so those casino takes advantage of it to hold them down and when they win big, withdrawal is always a problem and they start demanding for kyc and if they are scammers they run away with gamblers funds.

Truly all licensed casino from the government demand for kyc as that is a criteria which they would require to do before admitting any gambler to opening an account with them and  operating as a gambler so as not to violate the country policies.
This is a must to know so that we won't end up blaming the casino. It's not their fault but they are only following orders and if not, something bad could happen on them. There might truly be a casino who are KYC free. What about the decentralized ones? But in order to be sure, we should make it a habit to read their terms and conditions. 

A casino can promise to not have a KYC but it does not mean gamblers will now be crazy and head over them. There will still be doubts and I believe that many players will sacrifice their KYC only to have a peace of mind. I mean they know that the website is not scam and it has a strong security to prevent the hacker from accessing it.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: CryptSafe on August 04, 2023, 08:54:17 PM
Government did the kyc because of the anti money laundering act. So they want to keep watch of every transaction from every financial institution in their jurisdiction so as not to loss and keep anything suspicious on track. Be it casino, sportbook etc. As for casinos that claim kyc free, I  think that is just a stunt to gain traffic to their site and to gain more members because online gamblers prefer a kyc free casino to preserve their identity so those casino takes advantage of it to hold them down and when they win big, withdrawal is always a problem and they start demanding for kyc and if they are scammers they run away with gamblers funds.

Truly all licensed casino from the government demand for kyc as that is a criteria which they would require to do before admitting any gambler to opening an account with them and  operating as a gambler so as not to violate the country policies.
This is a must to know so that we won't end up blaming the casino. It's not their fault but they are only following orders and if not, something bad could happen on them. There might truly be a casino who are KYC free. What about the decentralized ones? But in order to be sure, we should make it a habit to read their terms and conditions. 

A casino can promise to not have a KYC but it does not mean gamblers will now be crazy and head over them. There will still be doubts and I believe that many players will sacrifice their KYC only to have a peace of mind. I mean they know that the website is not scam and it has a strong security to prevent the hacker from accessing it.

It is true that casinos are being  compelled by the government to do a KYC for their members so as to know who they are and also to be on the safe side.

Currently, I do not think there are much KYC free casino and if there are, they are just wanting to get members to register with them so as to get the traffic but when it is time for withdrawal that is when you will know if truly they are KYC free or not but I think if a casino is wanting to be KYC free they should stand by their words and if they are doing KYC then it is a different game than to tell people that they are KYC free and at the entire end they take back their words and begin to do to the contrary.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: uneng on August 04, 2023, 08:56:48 PM
The answer lies in trying it.
Does not have to be a casino.
Who wants to advertise on my blog in a constructive way. I can use the money. BADLY. Thatīs another story. Sjit happens.  But hey, I will do it for free if it has t o be that way.
I think the whole purpose of this thread is to promote your blog, as you are trying to find potential customers who could hire your promoter's services.

Wouldn't these signatures generate more traffic on blogs like mine, and many others, than they currently do here??
And is tha good for the crypto community? Is that a good thing for the world?

Or am I really missing knowledge here?
I believe signature banners are more worthful here at bitcointalk forum, because there is already a consolidated traffic of users and curious people in general who are browsing through gambling content on the internet. Since casinos have been sponsoring signature campaigns for several years already, it must be a really efficient method of advertisement for them, instead of promoting their brands at minor blogs, forums and websites where the traffic of users is much lower compared to what they achieve here.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Freedom4All on August 04, 2023, 08:59:31 PM
KYC is not that big of a problem (for me at least) when we talk about ptivacy.

I am not a real gambler, I played poker in my younger days and sometimes I like to play some live Stud Poker (-EV, I know).

What is annoying is that you have the feeling Big Brother watches every spin or call you make.
They decide how much you can spend a day. If you want to spend more then €1000 a month you need to fill in documents. Emails from the governemnt "concerned" about your gambling behaviour if you never gamble and then suddenly decide to play for 8 hours straight during the night for whatever reason..

At least thatīs how people experience it here.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Westinhome on August 04, 2023, 09:36:37 PM
For crypto, the government has the authority to ask every crypto exchange to implement KYC so that no money laundering activities occur there, but for casinos or the gambling industry, KYC is actually carried out not only to suppress money laundering but also to suppress gamblers who commit acts of fraud or deception.
Everything is a business and none of the business owners is willing that what is being built has to be destroyed because there are irresponsible persons such as criminals who launder money to remove traces or even those who like to cheat.

Nowadays the gambling industry is growing very rapidly and there is more and more money circulating in it, that's why some people want to take advantage of it for their personal benefit.

Now government had their influence on the crypto and the gambling industry.The government which had huge knowledge in the crypto had started to legalized the cryptocurrency and allow the people to use cryptocurrency and make them to pay taxes.The government made the kyc mandatory to all the traders and implement this way of taxation.Like this the government made the gambling website must allow the users to do kyc to avoid of money laundering.Gambling based on crypto was growing and reach all over the world.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: dothebeats on August 04, 2023, 11:17:36 PM
KYC is not that big of a problem (for me at least) when we talk about ptivacy.

I am not a real gambler, I played poker in my younger days and sometimes I like to play some live Stud Poker (-EV, I know).

What is annoying is that you have the feeling Big Brother watches every spin or call you make.
They decide how much you can spend a day. If you want to spend more then €1000 a month you need to fill in documents. Emails from the governemnt "concerned" about your gambling behaviour if you never gamble and then suddenly decide to play for 8 hours straight during the night for whatever reason..

At least thatīs how people experience it here.

And that's something that is really scary, at least for me. Imagine them always knowing how you spend, where you spend, and what to spend. They really 'control' your spending, and even your activities indirectly. I gamble a lot previously, though not as big of a spender compared to most of us here, but there's a certain feeling that I think one day, the tax man will just knock at my door and ask why am I not reporting everything to them. It might even be a reason, sooner or later, for me to get declined in some services but that's just my anxiety kicking.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Slow death on August 04, 2023, 11:47:13 PM
From what I could understand you created a website where people can pay you to advertise their website on your website, but the problem with that is that your website is in Dutch, it has content in Dutch and the world is moving more towards English , you can see right here in this forum that all casinos despite having options for people to choose the language that best suits them in the casino, in your ann thread everything is in English so why would a casino pay for advertising on your site when your site is in dutch and another big problem is that your site has subjects that involve politics and when you mix politics with cryptocurrencies and casinos it never comes out good

and to make matters worse, your site also has content about religion, and again I have to say this, religion with casinos is not good, religion with cryptocurrencies is not good either, so if you want to have a website for that casinos pay for advertising on your site, so you would have to have a site specializing in gambling and even then casinos would not pay for advertising on your site, because in this market there are already many great sites that add casinos for free and they earn commissions from referrals and this business has become very lucrative for the big sites and it would not be easy for you to compete with these big sites


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: harizen on August 05, 2023, 02:14:10 AM

I don't want to give or share the possible "pros and cons" of what you are thinking but always remember that "a plan will remain as a plan" if it's not executed for real. Therefore, we will only know the result, either good or bad, after doing the said plan.

Advertising is really critical regardless of the business and industry.

Despite the fact that advertising and marketing tools are just out there, always available not a secret, most owners know the target market, and target audiences and even know what platform should be considered to throw those advertisements, why there is a struggle? It's because of the huge competition out there because everyone wants on top. The gambling industry is big and expect competition like that.

It's just a matter now of how you will execute smoothly your advertising plan. Good luck.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Chikito on August 05, 2023, 03:13:49 AM
I believe signature banners are more worthful here at bitcointalk forum, because there is already a consolidated traffic of users and curious people in general who are browsing through gambling content on the internet. Since casinos have been sponsoring signature campaigns for several years already, it must be a really efficient method of advertisement for them, instead of promoting their brands at minor blogs, forums and websites where the traffic of users is much lower compared to what they achieve here.
Signature Campaign is the most unique marketing I've ever come across, it's the same as endorsing like on Instagram or other social media, but that's not enough if the company only relies on it, they must try more another way to grow up the audience on other platforms. actually, the signature campaign is just proof that the casino is very trusted because the company always paid a lot of money on time. but if the company want to add a lot of users, they must endorse also to another media social platform


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: maydna on August 05, 2023, 11:31:51 AM
KYC is not that big of a problem (for me at least) when we talk about ptivacy.

I am not a real gambler, I played poker in my younger days and sometimes I like to play some live Stud Poker (-EV, I know).

What is annoying is that you have the feeling Big Brother watches every spin or call you make.
They decide how much you can spend a day. If you want to spend more then €1000 a month you need to fill in documents. Emails from the governemnt "concerned" about your gambling behaviour if you never gamble and then suddenly decide to play for 8 hours straight during the night for whatever reason..

At least thatīs how people experience it here.

And that's something that is really scary, at least for me. Imagine them always knowing how you spend, where you spend, and what to spend. They really 'control' your spending, and even your activities indirectly. I gamble a lot previously, though not as big of a spender compared to most of us here, but there's a certain feeling that I think one day, the tax man will just knock at my door and ask why am I not reporting everything to them. It might even be a reason, sooner or later, for me to get declined in some services but that's just my anxiety kicking.
There are still many of us who also feel the same way as you. Sometimes I also think like you when a tax official comes to my house and shows me a tax report that I have spent a lot of money and have to pay a lot of taxes. The current government is really monitoring all its citizens. However, they need to pay attention to the people who work in the government first because there are still many corruption cases that have not been resolved. And they only arrest people who "don't pay too much tax" compared to the corruptors. But we as ordinary citizens also can't do anything if one day it happens, and we can't defend it either.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Solosanz on August 05, 2023, 01:07:19 PM
I believe signature banners are more worthful here at bitcointalk forum, because there is already a consolidated traffic of users and curious people in general who are browsing through gambling content on the internet. Since casinos have been sponsoring signature campaigns for several years already, it must be a really efficient method of advertisement for them, instead of promoting their brands at minor blogs, forums and websites where the traffic of users is much lower compared to what they achieve here.
Yeah it's not entirely about the brands will spread in someone else signature, if it's only like that then there's no difference with the banner promotion in an article or site. What make signature campaign better than the other is we can communicate with the other users and DT members will not scared to give red tag if the casino is scam. This will make everyone know which casino is legit and which one is scam.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Freedom4All on August 05, 2023, 02:48:00 PM
KYC is not that big of a problem (for me at least) when we talk about ptivacy.

I am not a real gambler, I played poker in my younger days and sometimes I like to play some live Stud Poker (-EV, I know).

What is annoying is that you have the feeling Big Brother watches every spin or call you make.
They decide how much you can spend a day. If you want to spend more then €1000 a month you need to fill in documents. Emails from the governemnt "concerned" about your gambling behaviour if you never gamble and then suddenly decide to play for 8 hours straight during the night for whatever reason..

At least thatīs how people experience it here.

And that's something that is really scary, at least for me. Imagine them always knowing how you spend, where you spend, and what to spend. They really 'control' your spending, and even your activities indirectly. I gamble a lot previously, though not as big of a spender compared to most of us here, but there's a certain feeling that I think one day, the tax man will just knock at my door and ask why am I not reporting everything to them. It might even be a reason, sooner or later, for me to get declined in some services but that's just my anxiety kicking.
There are still many of us who also feel the same way as you. Sometimes I also think like you when a tax official comes to my house and shows me a tax report that I have spent a lot of money and have to pay a lot of taxes. The current government is really monitoring all its citizens. However, they need to pay attention to the people who work in the government first because there are still many corruption cases that have not been resolved. And they only arrest people who "don't pay too much tax" compared to the corruptors. But we as ordinary citizens also can't do anything if one day it happens, and we can't defend it either.

Noo, you understand Biden wrong. He hired 84.000 more armed IRS agents to go after the rich! The government loves you, the middle man. :D:D
What I mean is that you are absolutely right. And I think it is even worse over there in the US then here.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: CryptSafe on August 08, 2023, 06:56:20 PM
For crypto, the government has the authority to ask every crypto exchange to implement KYC so that no money laundering activities occur there, but for casinos or the gambling industry, KYC is actually carried out not only to suppress money laundering but also to suppress gamblers who commit acts of fraud or deception.
Everything is a business and none of the business owners is willing that what is being built has to be destroyed because there are irresponsible persons such as criminals who launder money to remove traces or even those who like to cheat.

Nowadays the gambling industry is growing very rapidly and there is more and more money circulating in it, that's why some people want to take advantage of it for their personal benefit.

Now government had their influence on the crypto and the gambling industry.The government which had huge knowledge in the crypto had started to legalized the cryptocurrency and allow the people to use cryptocurrency and make them to pay taxes.The government made the kyc mandatory to all the traders and implement this way of taxation.Like this the government made the gambling website must allow the users to do kyc to avoid of money laundering.Gambling based on crypto was growing and reach all over the world.

The government really have their eyes on crypto gambling platforms because they believe huge revenue are generated from them and another factor is  that crimes are perpetrated through them hence their focus there to control their activities. They brought KYC and made it compulsory so that everyone transacting would be detailed for further surveillance and possibly under
their  raiders.
Lastly, since it happens that huge revenues are generated from casinos, the government tool advantage of it to tax them in paying tax to the government as it pleases them. These are the reasons why they brought up these stringent policies so they could control the casinos.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: bittraffic on August 08, 2023, 08:08:12 PM

Any business would want exposure to traffic where people who are interested in certain topics and any website that can offer this traffic is most welcome by casinos or crypto projects. These advertisers however want a guarantee that they benefit while paying a website to offer such traffic.

The website/blog owner is no different from those youtuber/streamers or influencers, they just have to have an enormous amount of followers to look good for those advertisers.

So why not go to adnetwork by the way?  Theres plenty of them.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: fullhdpixel on August 11, 2023, 07:08:03 PM
For crypto, the government has the authority to ask every crypto exchange to implement KYC so that no money laundering activities occur there, but for casinos or the gambling industry, KYC is actually carried out not only to suppress money laundering but also to suppress gamblers who commit acts of fraud or deception.
Everything is a business and none of the business owners is willing that what is being built has to be destroyed because there are irresponsible persons such as criminals who launder money to remove traces or even those who like to cheat.

Nowadays the gambling industry is growing very rapidly and there is more and more money circulating in it, that's why some people want to take advantage of it for their personal benefit.
Now government had their influence on the crypto and the gambling industry.The government which had huge knowledge in the crypto had started to legalized the cryptocurrency and allow the people to use cryptocurrency and make them to pay taxes.The government made the kyc mandatory to all the traders and implement this way of taxation.Like this the government made the gambling website must allow the users to do kyc to avoid of money laundering.Gambling based on crypto was growing and reach all over the world.
I think that a true government cryptocoiner will not exploit crypto for their own gains or for their own country because they know that crypto is different from a fiat. It wasn't a government or bank-issued currency so it should be exempted to tax.

Only those government who tax crypto are I think a crypto hater but a move like this is better than if they completely ban cryptos. At least people will still have the chance to get to know more about crypto by using them directly. KYC aren't still a mandatory thing on some crypto platforms and then there might still be platforms left who are not supporting these KYC revolution. I hope they will remain like that forever.


Title: Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector***
Post by: Casdinyard on August 11, 2023, 08:24:29 PM
So why donīt we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.

If I may ask what alternative source of media publicity are you talking about.  So far the social media, television and radio aspects of advertising have been consistently on in promoting Bitcoin and Crypto world wide. Crypto has a wide range of coverage globally only what is left now is adoption and integration and that has to do with the government policies Governing  each country to be favourable for smooth adoption process for Bitcoin and Crypto at large.
He's basically seeing Cryptocurrencies and projects that dabble into it, gambling or not as some form of affiliate/collaboration program where he can partner up with for money and clicks. I think it's good and all that since collaboration has its benefits but in my opinion, you wouldn't make it out alive in the cryptocurrency world if all you want is a way to express your brand, even if you want to do it while elevating cryptocurrency's name. Gone are the days when people see bitcoin and crypto as spawns of satan. If you ask someone who's at least aware of what bitcoin and crypto is if they want to pocket one they'd say yes in a heartbeat. Which is more than enough reason for crypto to not need anymore advertisement of sorts.