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First, forgive me if by any chance, it happened that this has been suggested before now, i tried searching but found nothing..

So i was just think..
How about an option to add more user(s) of your choice to co-moderate a your self-moderated thread alongside yourself (the op)?

That is i create a self-moderated thread, and i have the option of choosing one, two, or three more users of my choice to join me in self-moderating that thread, just incase if there be any time i (the op), for some reason couldn't come online for a long time, i can trust that the thread wont be derailed with shitposts, somethings outside the real purpose the thread.

And yeah, there could be option to remove a co-moderator just incase they turn a bad leave on the forum..

What do you guys think?..

At first when I read the part of you not being online to moderate your self-moderated thread I wanted to write about just reporting the shitposts to moderators, normally when a makes a shit post or an off-topic post it is the duty of forum members to report that post but it seems like no one is reporting posts nowadays.

If this can be added it will definitely be beneficial.Even if it’s not added in the general forum, gambling board should be considered as the op sometimes can miss posts that should be deleted.

Adding such an option will indeed be of great help, that is if it could be considered, as I have come across a lot of self-moderated threads where the OP seems not to be the active type or might have been offline for over some months, yet there is still major discussion going on on that thread, which might not even be in line with what the thread was initially created for.
 

I don't know how it works, but most times I feel like moderators give less attention to self-moderated topics, as the OP has already committed himself or herself to keeping the thread clean, and the OP is the person who knows what exactly is expected to be seen on the thread and could be considered off topic. So when I come across posts that appear in self-moderated threads, I usually ignore them.

If this is going to be added, it will be good, but I do not think theymos will do that for.

Why gambling boards? Most threads on gambling main board and gambling discussion board are not self-modersted and there have been good discussions there. If you check other boards, after the first or second page, most posts are like repetition of what some users have posted before in the previous pages.

Never heard/read any suggestion like this before. Yes, it's a bit an issue for an active thread with inactive OP but its rare to have a very active thread actually except in the wall observer thread.
Its case was , theymos change its ownership^[1] by voting 56 active users in the thread.
For this case, it could be useful if added but not really necessary imo, but i dont think it will be implemented or only if everyone will agree to have to it.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2004227.0

There might be a lot of off-topic discussion in other boards, but there's always much more when it comes to this gambling board. If you check through the thread history on the gambling board, you will always realize that threads under the gambling board always have a greater number of responses compared to other boards. I guess the OP of this thread has raised an issue regarding that before, which makes almost all his threads under the gambling sections self-moderated to reduce the number of shitposts as much as he can.

I can see this feature being useful in certain occasions, but since they are so rare I don't really think that theymos will want waste his time time implementing something like this. Especially since there are much more important things to implement, like 2fa for example.

If nothing is personally serious, report and moderator handle are enough to moderate any thread.

Self-moderation is more like individually moderate a thread with your personal view that can be just personal and does not need to be correct. I don't think self moderation by multiple people will be good because there will be differences in their view, post interpretation so that those co-moderators in a self moderated thread will have conflicts in their view and it won't cause an happy ending in their co-moderation.

It would be a nice feature...

In the past, i always argued that, sooner or later, we'd get new forum software (epochtalk) and that meddling with SMF's sourcecode to implement even more custom code wasn't that good of an idear... There was even a time i was running an epochtalk instance so i could make bug or feature requests in the repo (not that this ever happened tough). But when i look at the repo now, i see the last release was allmost 3 years ago, so i wonder if it might be a good idear to start asking for changes on SMF again (since the new forum software doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon).

You never know if PowerGloves will develop a patch to solve this. If I am not wrong, he already coded the 2FA patch, and I don't know where he is now. Not sure if theymos will implement these patches. But I feel like this development could be helpful for some mega threads. Gambling discussions have some self-moderated threads, but the creator rarely moderates those.

Sometimes people post nonsense and don't even know what they are talking about. WO thread will be benefited, and infofront might appoint some members to keep it clean. If this happens and infofront appoints some forum police, Twitter posters will be in trouble.

I hope to see this feature, even at the paid memberships level such as the Copper member or any other membership, if there is any misuse of it.

But as a simple solution at the present time, it is possible to create a temporary account specifically for a specific topic and give access to that account to several users, and here each user can add his name at the end of each post to know who is using the account, and the work team can monitor the IP address page to see who deleted any reply.

I used to think that this topic is managed by one user, so perhaps we need such solutions for some altcoin threads. :o

This idea would really be good if it could be added as a feature on the forum, but I think it cannot really be considered being added so soon because the forum is already self-moderated and moderator moderation is cool. If one really wants to make a topic self-moderated, then they should be ready to have the time to delete any inappropriate comments.

Well there is a sense into what you just said over here but also come to think of this, what if people planned or scamming people and got their post deleted since is a self moderated by which 3 users has access to the thread and topic, how do you think you could get the right person who deleted the post and at last the op could be tag for scamming people while some you added to do list or to operate has quickly acted smartly and deleted every other post in that thread and it happens you came online and see series of tag on your profile what would you do, because i know people are too funny most at time they may said you got your alt account added and you went offline.
Please this only applicable to an financial thread or a business thread that contains transactions.

It will be very helpful for accounts that were created for business purposes. May be the copper membership should have the feature added. For a personal account I don't think it will be a logical feature.

Well, I can see that many people are buying the idea, but to me, if one cannot fully control his or her thread alone, then he or she should allow moderators to manage it for them.

Many of us have different ways of qualifying a post as a quality post. What you can consider a quality post might not be up to the standard of another user. Therefore, if you add some users to moderate your post, they might delete some content that may be worth leaving in the thread. Therefore, I think any thread that is self-moderated is under the watch of the OP. Therefore, the OP should have time to monitor the thread until he/she is satisfied with the thread.

I don't see any good reason why anyone would do that?
First you don't know if other members you selected would accept to moderate your topic, and second they could delete all posts and lock your topic at any time without explanation.
If someone randomly selected me for moderating their topic I most likely wouldn't even know about that and I wouldn't do any moderating for them.
Lot of complications and that usually means more problems down the line.

First, why would anyone want to randomly add users to moderate their topic, that is not what I meant with the idea, for such a feature, you first have to reach out to the user you are interested in adding, first make sure they will are interested and will accept your invitation, before you proceed with inviting such a user.
Secondly , you should not invite users you are not sure you trust, that is, only have users you personally trust help you moderate your thread, and even when you will be adding random users, make sure to choose those with good reputation on the forum , this solves the problem of "what is the user deletes all comments and locks the thread" , such a thing can never happen if you choose the right users, and by the way, why would any body want to do that in the first place? what will be their profit or gain if they do that, if not destroy their reputation?.

That means that I can choose whoever I want, even randomly, and someone else could do the same, that opens big can of worms that nobody can control.

If you wanted to propose something useful than explain it better, don't expect from other members to speculate and fill blank spaces in few of your dream sentences.

I am against this suggestion. Full stop.

I like the idea but what if the user abuses that feature you know like creating their own echo chamber where the user and their chosen users can just delete the posts that aren't necessarily agreeing with their POV but still a valid opinion. Plus self-moderated would lose it's meaning, I think that it's the responsibility of the OP alone to clean the thread that he/she started. And if it's really a good idea in the first place, I'm sure @theymos would've added that feature a long time ago.

Yes, this suggestion is somewhat useful in some cases, especially those in which the thread is expected to be very large and extended over a long period of time, such as the threads of campaigns, competitions, and so on. This option will be very helpful to the Op in managing this long thread and keeping it clean.

But on the other hand, Op and co-member may not have the same criteria for deleting posts that they don't like, I mean the view may be different for different people is "this post is spam or not"?

OP,this is a good idea that you came up with but as for me,I think that for the addition of more users to moderate a self-moderated thread is irrelevant and might cause complications on post to delete or not because it is the OP of the thread that knows what he wants and which post he will delete that is off topic due to the insight that he has to create such topic. Theymos wouldn't see this as something important because he is very busy with other important things that will added more value to the community than this topic. The word self means it should be done personally by the thread poster and not anyone. So if the OP of a self moderated thread will have some challenges in the nearest future to filter or delete off topic post,then let him leave the thread open to forum moderators where users can report off topic thread to the forum moderators so that it will be deleted

I think like you. I wouldn't waste time implementing that. If the creator of a self moderated thread is absent from the forum, the posts in that thread can be reported to the moderators.

It's great idea, although i expect only big group (such as for-profit company or altcoin team) would utilize this feature.


I think you're looking at wrong repository. I don't remember the reason, but it seems the work moved to those repository
https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk_server (https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk_server)
https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk-vue (https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk-vue)

Make sure to check other branch of those repository as well. I also remember someone mention there's Discord where the developer talk more about progress of the development, but i can't recall much about it.

I don't think it makes sense to introduce such new features to the current version of the forum software, at least as long as the new forum software, EpochTalk, is still on the roadmap (Is it really? I hope it is.) Such a feature would only bring new confusion and a bunch of unknowns for the community, and it's better for the admins to focus on implementing EpochTalk smoothly and ensuring a seamless transition for users.
Once EpochTalk is fully integrated and proven to be stable, we can revisit the idea of introducing new features to enhance the forum experience.

It has been years that people has been waiting for EpochTalk but nothing up till now. We do not know how long it would still take before this will be done.

What I later thought about having other people to self moderate threads is that it can lead to some people not creating normal threads again than self moderated threads and they may have self-centred opinion.

This is the only reason I think this stands a chance of making sense, if at all it should. Otherwise, it's redundancy. That only reason for me could be in the event of the OP's demise or complete incapacitation. Other than that, I don't think there's a need for it. Whenever OP comes online they can moderate their thread and do the needful. What if the other mod(s) deletes what OP believes (while still active) is constructive and before anyone could say Jack it's gone? What of such happening? Wouldn't that bring friction between or among OP's co-mods?

This is something new and I don't know if there is modification software created for SMF by the SMF team or by an independent developer for SMF, but like all the others' suggestions everyone can moderate a topic by reporting it to moderators not because you have moderated a topic you're the only one who can delete a topic the report a post button can help the topic to be moderated by other members if they think the topic is spam.

And I don't know if all will agree to co-moderate your own thread they may not have time to look at topics where they are chosen to co-moderate, if ever this is integrated there should be an option to not approve to be a co-moderator.

We can’t say if there’s a circumstance where the OP will not be able to come online for some time, maybe sick, busy or something. The users he or she added to their  self-moderated topic could be of help during that period and it’s fine in my opinion. Reporting to the forum moderators about such posts in such threads is like giving them extra work to do. I like the main OP’s idea.

The co-moderators of one topic should be chosen before you publish your self-moderated topic. I don't believe that theymos will allow to edit co-moderator list of a self-moderated if he deploys a new feature, co-moderated topic for community.

In addition, if you are the main moderator, the author of a topic, it's impossible to choose a co-moderator after you get an accident and no longer is able to use the forum.

If the forum is clean and has good quality, forum moderators don't need extra works to do.