Title: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: dimaze on August 15, 2023, 01:50:16 PM Just announced on Bitmain's socials -
https://twitter.com/bitmaintech/status/1691315238287933440?s=12&t=_uFk2ClAhWUAcozE2BHGeg Premiere at WDMS, breaking closer to 10 J/T. Pretty wild how far mining has come in over a decade. Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: favebook on August 15, 2023, 03:12:51 PM Premiere at WDMS, breaking 1 J/T. Small correction, it's not 1 J/T but 1X J/T as in anywhere between 10 and 19. X=(0,1,..,9) Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: dimaze on August 15, 2023, 04:54:47 PM Premiere at WDMS, breaking 1 J/T. Small correction, it's not 1 J/T but 1X J/T as in anywhere between 10 and 19. X=(0,1,..,9) Corrected - Thanks! Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: philipma1957 on August 15, 2023, 06:55:36 PM I bet it is 18 or 19
Not 10 or 11 although 18 when under clocked could do 15 I wonder if they will stick with 2900-3300 watts for them 19 watts per th at 3300 = 173th 18 watts per th at 3300 = 183th it would still be able to run on a 20 amp circuit or do they step the power up to 30 amps using 2 c19/c20 cables say 5400 watts which is about 300 th. that would be a real beast. this cable can do 30 amps. use 1 of these https://www.amazon.com/Conntek-YL630L630-Y-Adapter-L6-30P-L6-30R/dp/B00SJESLEG/ref=sr_1_5? use 2 of these https://www.amazon.com/NEMA-L6-30P-C19-Power-Cord/dp/B004WOE85S/ref=sr_1_5? and you could safely send 5400-6000 watts to the s21 So we could see 300th unit but cooling will be hard. maybe 6 fans 3 in and 3 out and taller Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: BitcoinSoloMiner on August 15, 2023, 10:59:15 PM Good news! Wonder what price will be...
Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: philipma1957 on August 15, 2023, 11:38:57 PM Good news! Wonder what price will be... great question. 30 a th for a 300th machine is 9k 30 a th for a 200th machine is 6k my guess is 18-19 watts and 30 a th so between 6 and 9 k a lot depends on if they want to force 2 c19/c20 cables to run the unit. Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: mikeywith on August 19, 2023, 02:22:01 AM Good news! Wonder what price will be... great question. 30 a th for a 300th machine is 9k 30 a th for a 200th machine is 6k my guess is 18-19 watts and 30 a th so between 6 and 9 k a lot depends on if they want to force 2 c19/c20 cables to run the unit. Your price prediction is pretty close to what hash_bender leaked, efficiency, is not so. Quote 210 TH/s @ 3150 15 J/T $5800 / ea 27.62 $/Th https://twitter.com/hash_bender I think 15w/th is doable given that S19xp is reported to do 18-19w/th underclocked with the proper firmware, so 15-16w/th stock for S21 pro won't be too far stretched. Keep in mind that while Nick Hansen is the CEO of Luxor and probably has some Bitmain insiders, his info may be totally wrong. Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: Artemis3 on August 19, 2023, 04:30:35 PM I think 15w/th is doable given that S19xp is reported to do 18-19w/th underclocked with the proper firmware, so 15-16w/th stock for S21 pro won't be too far stretched. Keep in mind that while Nick Hansen is the CEO of Luxor and probably has some Bitmain insiders, his info may be totally wrong. And yet the S19 series started with a 7nm part (BM1398) and then moved to a more efficient 5nm part (BM1362) that originally was the J, confusingly now all seems to use this chip regardless of them using the J letter or not; except the XP with the 5nm (BM1366). In the process they degraded the quality with the cheaper aluminum treatment, or from their point of view, "optimized their process" since the fact people were running the miners more efficiently meant that they were leaving "too much" margin for "improvement" (could be made cheaper). Unsurprisingly, in typical Bitmain fashion, the "newer" models are using the lower yield chips. The "good stuff" left with the 104T and 100T Js, the "non Js" rated for 90/86/82 are simply the lower yield leftovers. Again, typical Bitmain fashion. Too bad some people don't see it and get lured by the "cheap price". I agree with philipma1957 predictions. Unless they use the recently announced 2nm node by TSMC, but even if that's in the plan, its probably still a year or two away, so like they did with the S19, may actually start with a 5nm part not terribly more efficient than the XP, just like the original S19 Pro 110T. Desiwe has a more interesting approach, but its just bruteforcing higher efficiency by running parts slower and better cooled (8nm Samsung). But if they manage to upgrade those chips with an even lower node, then Bitmain will have something else to worry. Who else uses Samsung? Ah yes, MicroBT... Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: ZeusBtc.com on September 22, 2023, 08:36:06 AM Bitmain has released specifications for the S21 Hyd and S21 miner.
https://twitter.com/BITMAINtech/status/1705115773499478154 S21 Hyd. Hashrate:335T Energy Efficiency: 16J/T; S21 Hashrate:200T Energy Efficiency: 17.5J/T. Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: philipma1957 on September 22, 2023, 12:44:33 PM 17.5 is nice was hoping to see 15th and 17.5 x 200 = 3500 watts which is a lot
the hydro will pull a lot of power. 335 x 16 = 5360 watts Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: cygan on September 22, 2023, 05:01:39 PM here is an interesting blog entry about the new s21 miner from Bitmain:
Quote Bitmain revealed the Antminer S21 at its World Digital Mining Summit in Hong Kong this week, the latest, most powerful, and most efficient Bitcoin ASIC miner yet from the Bitcoin mining ASIC manufacturer. https://hashrateindex.com/blog/what-is-the-antminer-s21-everything-to-know-about-bitmains-latest-asic-miner/ (https://hashrateindex.com/blog/what-is-the-antminer-s21-everything-to-know-about-bitmains-latest-asic-miner/)the pre-orders can now be created on luxor.tech: https://go.luxor.tech/antminer-s21 (https://go.luxor.tech/antminer-s21) and in this tweet you can see a little video of the new mining 'monster': https://twitter.com/BitcoinNewsCom/status/1705188333213650989 (https://twitter.com/BitcoinNewsCom/status/1705188333213650989) Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: philipma1957 on September 22, 2023, 05:14:43 PM here is an interesting blog entry about the new s21 miner from Bitmain: Quote Bitmain revealed the Antminer S21 at its World Digital Mining Summit in Hong Kong this week, the latest, most powerful, and most efficient Bitcoin ASIC miner yet from the Bitcoin mining ASIC manufacturer. https://hashrateindex.com/blog/what-is-the-antminer-s21-everything-to-know-about-bitmains-latest-asic-miner/ (https://hashrateindex.com/blog/what-is-the-antminer-s21-everything-to-know-about-bitmains-latest-asic-miner/)the pre-orders can now be created on luxor.tech: https://go.luxor.tech/antminer-s21 (https://go.luxor.tech/antminer-s21) and in this tweet you can see a little video of the new mining 'monster': https://twitter.com/BitcoinNewsCom/status/1705188333213650989 (https://twitter.com/BitcoinNewsCom/status/1705188333213650989) I would get two for testing. Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: mikeywith on September 22, 2023, 09:23:58 PM 17.5 is nice was hoping to see 15th and 17.5 x 200 = 3500 watts which is a lot You still need to add roughly 160W for the 4 fans, so that takes it to 3650W, the hydro will most certainly be 3-phase wired, it would sit on the shelves for months and then sell for a lot cheaper just like what's happening to the older hydro version. 17.5w/th for an air-cooled miner is certainly a huge improvement, the M50s++ is 22w/th so MicroBT has a lot of catching up to do, my guess MicroBT will launch M70 sometime early next year with similar hashrate but more like 19w/th or so. Title: Re: Bitmain S21 Series Post by: Lockedout on February 19, 2024, 01:44:52 AM Ordered a S21 Hydro a few days ago. Will be sent to me in April.
I’m new to mining, and I wonder if someone knows what the material in the S21 Hydro cooling blocks is? I think that I perhaps need to buy a set of radiators and a pump that is compatible with the cooling block, but I do not find this written in any of the sparse documentation. I have two leftover radiators and a pump from a computer build, but these are not recommended for use with aluminum blocks, it’s a EKW D5 pump and two EKW P420M. Either I buy four more of these radiators or I will look for some that is copper free. |