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Title: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: adamstgBit on December 15, 2011, 05:31:37 AM
bit - derived from the word "bitcoin"
rustica - the Latin word for "country"

Bitrustica would be a virtual democratic country.

The government body could be made responsible for maximizing organization within the bitcoin community.

Maybe bitcoinpolice.org could be part of this.

...

Wirtland ['wˇrtlənd] (aka: Virtlando; Bиpтлaндия; Hayalistan) claims to be the world's first internet-based sovereign country. Wirtland is an experiment into legitimacy and self-sustainability of a country without its own soil

Bitrustica [bit'rustica]  (aka: Bitworld) COULD be a internet-based sovereign country, created to facilitate world wide bitcoin development, Bitrustica's citizen could vote on important political decisions bitcoin will soon need to make.


http://grondilu.freeshell.org/bitcoin-flag-continuous.gif

"
    O Bitrustica!
    Our home and native land!
    True patriot love in all thy sons command.

    With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
    The True Coin strong and free!

    From far and wide,
    O Bitrustica, we stand on guard for thee.

    God keep our land glorious and free!
    O Bitrustica, we stand on guard for thee.

    O Bitrustica, we stand on guard for thee.
"



Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on December 15, 2011, 05:40:09 AM
I want to live there. Can I live there? How do I live there?


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: FlipPro on December 15, 2011, 05:44:20 AM
Why can't we just call it the Internet? Why must we be so nerdy lol.


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: adamstgBit on December 15, 2011, 05:47:42 AM
Why can't we just call it the Internet? Why must we be so nerdy lol.

In Bitrustica nerdy is nifty, and nifty is crazy sexy cool   ;)
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Bitrustica's citizen could vote on important political decisions bitcoin will soon need to make.


I want to live there. Can I live there? How do I live there?

it would be virtual. so you could become a citizen, and live anywhere in the world



Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on December 15, 2011, 06:08:41 AM
Why can't we just call it the Internet? Why must we be so nerdy lol.

In Bitrustica nerdy is nifty, and nifty is crazy sexy cool   ;)
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Bitrustica's citizen could vote on impotent political decisions bitcoin will soon need to make.


I want to live there. Can I live there? How do I live there?

it would be virtual. so you could become a citizen, and live anywhere in the world


Congratulations! You're batshit insane!


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: adamstgBit on December 15, 2011, 06:31:12 AM

I am a Bitrusticain :D


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: freequant on December 15, 2011, 08:34:18 AM
Let's wage war in Wirtland, seize their servers and use them to generate our coins.
This is a question of national seurity: Wirtland is a threat to us.


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: westkybitcoins on December 15, 2011, 08:51:13 AM
If this virtual country allows "citizenship" to be kept private, operates on a purely voluntary/contractual basis, and provides useful services for their fees, sure, why not, I'm in.


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: Sultan on December 15, 2011, 09:17:50 AM
Let's wage war in Wirtland, seize their servers and use them to generate our coins.
This is a question of national seurity: Wirtland is a threat to us.

I. On board for this initative, it must be done for the greater good. Virus primed, Trojans on stand-by, may our ISPs forgive us...


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: notme on December 15, 2011, 09:29:57 AM
No! Let us not fight out of fear nor greed.  That is the way of defeat.  Let us stand our ground.  If Wirtland moves beyond threat to action, we shall defend our land with all the fury of Hell.  If Bitrustica becomes a tyrannical aggressor, she will die along with her soldiers.


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: teflone on December 15, 2011, 09:39:26 PM

I am a Bitrusticain :D


Im fine with it, specially since I dont have to learn another anthem!   Go Canada!


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: deuxmill on December 16, 2011, 12:31:36 AM
So you (bitrusticans) claim some kind of right to govern bitcoin? And if you claim it ? How will you enforce it?


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: adamstgBit on December 16, 2011, 01:03:55 AM
So you (bitrusticans) claim some kind of right to govern bitcoin? And if you claim it ? How will you enforce it?


Bitrustica should be funded by the people for the people.
Bitrusticans rights / duties have not yet been defined. in fact bitrustica is just a wacky idea this point.
The basic idea of bitrustica would be to give everyone in the community a change to vote on bitcoin related issues.
ex.
 It could be in a few years their will be many different bitcoin clients. So who's to say what is the official client? bitrusticans could vote on this kind of thing.
 In time it might be necessary to elect a official representative of bitrustica. right now people might thing B Wagner is the bitcoin community's representative (is that what we want?)
 "Great men do not seek leadership. leadership is thrust upon them" - Kahless of the Klingon Empire.  ;)


Maybe having a real sovereign country, backing bitcoin could have legal and/or social benefits that we can't see yet?


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: cbeast on December 16, 2011, 01:55:13 AM
Decentralization puts the trust in Bitrustica.


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: FlipPro on December 16, 2011, 08:56:31 AM
So you (bitrusticans) claim some kind of right to govern bitcoin? And if you claim it ? How will you enforce it?


Bitrustica should be funded by the people for the people.
Bitrusticans rights / duties have not yet been defined. in fact bitrustica is just a wacky idea this point.
The basic idea of bitrustica would be to give everyone in the community a change to vote on bitcoin related issues.
ex.
 It could be in a few years their will be many different bitcoin clients. So who's to say what is the official client? bitrusticans could vote on this kind of thing.
 In time it might be necessary to elect a official representative of bitrustica. right now people might thing B Wagner is the bitcoin community's representative (is that what we want?)
 "Great men do not seek leadership. leadership is thrust upon them" - Kahless of the Klingon Empire.  ;)


Maybe having a real sovereign country, backing bitcoin could have illegal and/or social benefits that we can't see yet?
Solidcoin has what you speak of...

http://solidcointalk.org...


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: adamstgBit on December 16, 2011, 06:29:01 PM
So you (bitrusticans) claim some kind of right to govern bitcoin? And if you claim it ? How will you enforce it?


Bitrustica should be funded by the people for the people.
Bitrusticans rights / duties have not yet been defined. in fact bitrustica is just a wacky idea this point.
The basic idea of bitrustica would be to give everyone in the community a change to vote on bitcoin related issues.
ex.
 It could be in a few years their will be many different bitcoin clients. So who's to say what is the official client? bitrusticans could vote on this kind of thing.
 In time it might be necessary to elect a official representative of bitrustica. right now people might thing B Wagner is the bitcoin community's representative (is that what we want?)
 "Great men do not seek leadership. leadership is thrust upon them" - Kahless of the Klingon Empire.  ;)


Maybe having a real sovereign country, backing bitcoin could have illegal and/or social benefits that we can't see yet?
Solidcoin has what you speak of...

http://solidcointalk.org...

I'm guessing your talking about this -> http://wiki.solidcoin.info/wiki/SolidCoin_Foundation

So bitcoin is lagging behind on this issue?

Would this kind of foundation be desirable for bitcoin users?





Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: RaggedMonk on December 16, 2011, 06:41:38 PM
Sigh... I suppose a guy who calls himself king of an imaginary country is a better representative than a pedophile with a history of mortgage fraud...



Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: adamstgBit on December 16, 2011, 06:47:08 PM
Sigh... I suppose a guy who calls himself king of an imaginary country is a better representative than a pedophile with a history of mortgage fraud...

the representative of the imaginary country would be appointed by the populous. so i would hope he would have the peoples full support.


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on December 16, 2011, 06:49:34 PM
This is probably how the Distributed Republics and Phyles in the Neal Stephenson universe got their start.  This is a great idea and I would love to see something like CryptNet become a reality  8)


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: adamstgBit on December 17, 2011, 03:00:57 AM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4GdIttJ_Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4GdIttJ_Q)

we can do better!


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: cbeast on December 17, 2011, 03:14:40 AM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4GdIttJ_Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4GdIttJ_Q)

we can do better!
It's probably no more fantastic than out-competing the world banking system.


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: adamstgBit on December 17, 2011, 06:02:48 AM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4GdIttJ_Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4GdIttJ_Q)

we can do better!
It's probably no more fantastic than out-competing the world banking system.

not sure what you mean ???


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: cbeast on December 17, 2011, 01:31:07 PM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4GdIttJ_Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX4GdIttJ_Q)

we can do better!
It's probably no more fantastic than out-competing the world banking system.

not sure what you mean ???
Sometimes I get the feeling that people protest reactively and simply want a revolution. I even sometimes find myself hoping that the global economies crash.
 
I see social networking like Wirtland as a niche, but not a substitute for participating in local community development. Global networking is fine, but I find myself losing touch with my neighbors. Bitcoin is attempting to redress the need for a global currency when we probably don't need one. I'm not saying that it's here to fix a problem that doesn't exist, because there really is a global financial crisis. I'm just saying that the solution may not need to be a global one, but a local one instead. If people participate in governance instead of fantasizing about it, we may not have an economic crisis tomorrow. It's not fiat money that is the problem, it's corruption and greed.

Bitcoin may be the "antibiotic" that will kill the infection of greed that has spread across the globe, but having global solutions to finance may cause us to overlook our own community. I hope Bitcoin development will give us tools to take our community assets out of the 'globalists' control, (i.e. land contracts, small business loans, purchase agreements, etc.) without worry of having them sold off and dealing with overly complex terms and conditions designed to mislead consumers.

Hopefully a common money will lead to developing and following examples of good business practice. If Bitcoin can do all that some folks claim it can then great, but if not then that's okay too because it's a lot easier to fix local problems than global ones. If Bitcoin stays as a niche tool, then hopefully it will be useful to prevent future global crises while we focus on problems at home.


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: markm on September 29, 2012, 04:14:29 AM
So is BItrustica going to get itself a seat on the Bitcoin Foundation board or anything like that?

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 29, 2012, 09:46:53 AM
http://shiresociety.com/ (http://shiresociety.com/) I like the constitution they came up with.


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: kuzetsa on September 29, 2012, 06:21:19 PM
so is are there any requirements such as renunciation of citizenship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renunciation_of_citizenship)? Was this thread created in jest or is there anything actually happening?

I'm on board. (bored and feel like trolling)






...Excellent. Now that I'm God-Emperor of all matters here:

My first act is to eliminate any and all opposition, including anyone who thinks voting against me will be treated as anything more than an attempted coup. By eliminate, of course, I mean that you have been written down in my +7 secret ledger of blackisting and/or reported to the nearest oppressive dictatorship regime for your geographic locality.

Sorry sorry sorry. Is this a real thing? How does it work?

There aren't any states or countries I can compare this to, so I have no frame of reference beyond various people whom I've encountered, similarly joking along the lines of the (obviously trolling / in jest) silly paragraph I just posted above.


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: Photon939 on September 29, 2012, 06:23:36 PM
I just read the name and all that came to  mind was bitcoin + bitcoin savings and trust + bitcoinica = bitrustica


Title: Re: Bitrustica - The new virtual democratic country that governs bitcoin
Post by: puck2 on October 01, 2012, 05:33:38 AM
I think your Latin is a bit... well... rusty.