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Title: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Okwara on September 11, 2023, 12:45:04 PM
Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.

According to the Leadership Newspaper, a housewife known as Kehinde, the wife of a Jos based business man Alhaji Kamal had a severe stomach ache in 2018 in the City of Jos, Nigeria. They visited a private hospital owned by Doctor Noah Kekere who diagnosed the woman and said that she had a ruptured appendicitis and must be operated upon immediately.

After the operation which took 8 hours, the pain became worse and she continued to visit the same hospital till 2023 when the husband decided to take her to Jos University Teaching Hospital where they discovered that her kidney was removed.

He reported to the Police and Doctor Noah was arrested. Currently it is being reported that Doctor Noah has turned to a Lunatic while in custody.

Turning to a Lunatic could even be a trick he wants to use to gain freedom. That's my own opinion though. But please we all should be very careful out there and also raise alarm when it's necessary.


If Doctor Noah didn't remove the kidney, how come he didn't discover that the woman's kidney had been removed?


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Stepstowealth on September 12, 2023, 03:41:18 PM
According to the Leadership Newspaper,
where is the link?

No doubting that the story is real, because I have heard some stories about some other atrocities that some doctors commit. In addition to this kind of case of unauthorized harvesting of organs, they can also do swapping of children at birth and even sales of children. Many terrible things can happen in the hospital where you go to get help. I am even very careful with some doctors, because in one visit, some can prescribe both drugs you need and the ones you do not really need for you to get from their hospital pharmacy, so your bills can be higher. Be careful of hospitals and doctors that you visit.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: BADecker on September 12, 2023, 04:12:44 PM
Be careful with them, not of them, or for them.

Realize that doctors and hospitals are made up of people who want to get rich. Most of us would like a little more money. So, get yourself on over the the doctor and hospital, even if nothing is wrong with you, so that they can realize their American Dream of getting rich... at least a little faster than if you hadn't given them some of your money.

Then, after the doctors and hospital have made you sicker than you might have been before you visited them, get yourself on over to the nutrition people to make you well. Because the nutrition people have their version of the American Dream just like the doctors and hospitals. They need you money, too.

8)


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Gozie51 on September 12, 2023, 06:25:21 PM
Organ harvested are everywhere these days because of the rapid falling of human organs which is attributed to high level of processed food people eat this time. It is unfortunate you didn't send the link for more information but the story is not far from what we see and hear of. Some "hospitals" are disguised for other hidden business like exchanging and selling of babies, being involved in child trafficking through motherless homes etc. Some shaddy owners of motherless baby homes encourage teenagers to get pregnant for money. So these are all crimes perpetrated in hospital circle and government need to be strict about punishment.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Frankolala on September 12, 2023, 09:32:31 PM
You should share the link where you got this information, so that forum members can read and have a proper understanding of what is happening. This will enable them contribute properly.

Some doctors are in the hospital to commit havoc and they think that nobody will be able to know because they are doctors. Image Doctor Kekere killing his patient gradually, someone who went to him for treatment but instead he has worsened her condition. I am not surprised at this because we have evil doctors that have turned hospitals to a business centre of human parts and baby swap.

I know a doctor that sold out a newly born baby and lied to the mother that the boy died and that he has buried the remains of the body. This triggered the father of the boy and he got the doctor arrested,only for the doctor to call his evil doctors gang that they commit these astrosities today and they went to kill the man in his house,while he was still in police custody.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: LTU_btc on September 12, 2023, 11:00:33 PM
When you visit private hospital, usually you expect to get higher level service tahn you would get in public hospital. I'm not really familiar with medicine system in Nigeria, but I hardly imagine such kind of situation happening in my country. But I guess that stories like this one happens quite often in poor countries.
I'm not really doctor, but from what I know apendicitis surgery doesn'ttakes 8 hours, so, probably it was first red flag. But when it's urgent situation and you need help, you simply don't pay attention to such things.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 12, 2023, 11:29:59 PM
A lot of things are happening in the medical practitioner space where Doctors give the wrong injection to the patient (which I was once a victim of), block or cut unnecessary tubes in patients during surgery/operation (my sibling was once a victim when giving birth and she almost lost her life).
I think the Doctors need to go through some checkups if they are fit or in the right sense to work every week and if not incompetent the Doctor's license should be terminated.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: blockman on September 13, 2023, 06:21:06 PM
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After the operation which took 8 hours, the pain became worse and she continued to visit the same hospital till 2023 when the husband decided to take her to Jos University Teaching Hospital where they discovered that her kidney was removed.
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If Doctor Noah didn't remove the kidney, how come he didn't discover that the woman's kidney had been removed?
Like? really?!! did this happen?!! What a hospital for being irresponsible and what type of ethics do they have for doing that? Honestly, when I was reading, this incident came to my mind (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lucy-letby-sentencing-british-nurse-murdered-7-babies-life-in-prison/).
Comparing them, there's no difference between being unethical and they're being trusted by their patients but then, they're doing something crazy beyond the thought of these innocent patients. I think that there's something behind that hospital like they're after the organs and sells it to the other patients and much likely the richer ones or even the black-market.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Mophymac on September 14, 2023, 11:54:04 AM
If Doctor Noah didn't remove the kidney, how come he didn't discover that the woman's kidney had been removed?



He didn't probably noticed because that was not the primary reason the patient was brought to him. So he went straight to the area of concern and did what he was pay to do. Besides surgeries are timed, checking vitals whether they are there or not may cause delays which could lead to loss of life.











Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: montaga on September 14, 2023, 01:41:41 PM
Organ harvesting and selling been happening for a long time.
Whole Pharma is a criminal enterprise.

Interview with Caroline Mailloux, Lux Media: Prof. Michel Chossudovsky on the “Secret” Pfizer Report Puts Forth a Strategy and Legal Procedure to Confront Big Pharma with a view to Withdrawing the Covid-19 Vaccine Worldwide
https://odysee.com/270a3f5a-1e46-4c76-bf87-2df704208034

https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-pfizers-secret-report-on-the-covid-vaccine-beyond-manslaughter-the-evidence-is-overwhelming-the-vaccine-should-be-immediately-withdrawn-worldwide/5780561


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Solosanz on September 14, 2023, 03:01:44 PM
The question is how?

We're just a patient and we have no way to diagnose our illness. Is there any way to verify a good hospital? nope, is there any way to verify a honest doctor? nope. All you need is trust them and you can't do anything, it's trial and error, just pray you're not get a bad doctor.

Do you think you will not visit a hospital when you're sick due to your skepticism?


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: BADecker on September 14, 2023, 05:18:14 PM
The question is how?

We're just a patient and we have no way to diagnose our illness. Is there any way to verify a good hospital? nope, is there any way to verify a honest doctor? nope. All you need is trust them and you can't do anything, it's trial and error, just pray you're not get a bad doctor.

Do you think you will not visit a hospital when you're sick due to your skepticism?

That is partially correct. If you focus on the medical, that is what you will find. The thing you need to do is search for other things than medial, like nutrition.

Nutritional ideas, and 'radical' procedures and processes are available. If you search on the Internet for them, much of your search will only bring you medical ideals and propaganda about these procedures and processes. Why? because the medical realizes that stuff, that really works, is taking foothold. So, they have joined the nutritional industry as sleepers and 'spies' just to thwart good nutrition and good non-medical ideas.

For example. Have you heard of intravenous H2O2 and O3 procedures? You can find doctors who do them. But the medical outright blasts these doctors and ideas. Why? for two reasons. Some of the doctors that do H2O2 or O3 processes, don't know what they are doing, and can hurt people. The other reason is that when these processes are used correctly, people find great health, and are healed from almost everything that anybody can be healed from.

Another is a 'fringe' doctor (according to the medical) whose name is Max Gerson (deceased). When his methods are used properly even with a healthy person, there is better living and health. There are people who have used his methods who, after a while, noticed that they were getting all kinds of pinkish blotches and marks all over their bodies. Finally, it was determined that their scar tissue was being replaced by healthy, normal, original-like tissue.


The first thing you need to do is change your mindset. The medical is out there to make money, period. All they want to do is keep you healthy enough so that you come to them with your tiny illnesses so they can make money. Check the statistics as to how many people die from heart disease, cancer, and diabetes each year (almost 2 million people), at the hands of doctors and hospitals. Do you really want to continue on with these killers. Change your mindset.

Then search everywhere for things that work. After all, you can barely live with the medical, so LIVE without them.

8)


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Pingrapole on September 15, 2023, 12:49:45 PM
Before we check whether the story is true or false we need to check what we have to do. It is a lesson. It creates a context to make us aware. It is a very good thing.In today's world, after drug business, it has become the biggest business. Business with human organs is not a matter of today but a long time phenomenon.There are many reports of money greedy doctors stealing various organs without following the right path and saying it is wasted.Kidney theft in particular is happening so easily now that we can learn from the story that we should be very aware otherwise we end up dying prematurely like this.
***These incidents occur mostly when the unconscious education rate is low and ignorant people are caught when educated people are caught.Not only does it happen to underdeveloped countries, but it is facilitated by various groups of people in the developed world because they are the ones who want to buy these organs by paying huge sums of money under the lure of high greed.So it is not only the doctor who is to blame. In our society, there are many people who later say that it is bad. It is not right The main lesson is to be aware for yourself, for the nation, for the country, for the people of the world.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Gyfts on September 15, 2023, 03:04:22 PM
False story or not, it seems believable enough to warrant caution. Doctors kill more people inadvertently than some may realize. And in some cases, they kill patients intentionally.

Christopher Duntsch, orthopedic surgeon referred to as "Dr. Death" was responsible for the death and maiming of dozens of patients. Even after botched operations, he was allowed to continue operating on patients. Wasn't until after some number of people had died under his care until he was finally jailed.

And how is a patient supposed to know any better? The doctors surrounding this sociopath should have spoken up sooner.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Die_empty on September 15, 2023, 04:30:09 PM
The question is how?

We're just a patient and we have no way to diagnose our illness. Is there any way to verify a good hospital? nope, is there any way to verify a honest doctor? nope. All you need is trust them and you can't do anything, it's trial and error, just pray you're not get a bad doctor.

Do you think you will not visit a hospital when you're sick due to your skepticism?
Some people who live in developed or fairly developed nations will not understand what people in developing nations through. Some people live in a world where the health sector is a total mess. Doctors can behave unethically without sections because they can always bribe government officials. A Nigerian (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/05/05/africa/nigeria-senator-ekweremadu-sentenced-intl/index.html) senator and his wife was sent to the UK because they wanted to harvest the kidney of a young man. If it was in some countries they would never be charged due to their connection and influence.

There are honest doctors but there are also bad eggs that are not contented with what they earn,  so they can do anything possible to make more money. OP is not trying to instill fear in anybody but he just told a true life story (https://dailytrust.com/organ-harvesting-plateau-doctor-arrested-for-removing-womans-kidney/#:~:text=The%20arrest%20of%20the%20suspect%2C%20Dr.,his%20wife's%20kidney%20in%202018.) and you can confirm it on the internet. I live in a developing nation so I find this story educating because where we live, nothing is impossible.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: OgNasty on September 15, 2023, 06:37:54 PM
As I've gotten older I've watched the medical industry turn into a profit hungry business.  One thing that has surprised me is how Doctors have become salesmen to a certain extent.  People should be very careful when considering whether or not to go receive medical care.  If you do go to the doctor every time you feel ill, and you take the advice and take whatever prescription they give you, you should know that you're just buying drugs from someone.  If you continue going back, they will always have a new drug to sell you to treat something until you find yourself dead from all their care.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: BADecker on September 15, 2023, 07:34:06 PM
^^^ Seems to me that the whole medical system is a bunch of crooks. Why? They cause people to think that medicine and the medical are the answer. If they looked into nutrition like they investigate into medical stuff, nobody would get very ill at all, because nutrition would heal them all first.

Remember, this takes investigation into nutrition. And now that it is started by some, it will bring about much better health than medicine... as soon as people realize that nutrition is the way to go, and flee the medical.

8)


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Asiska02 on September 15, 2023, 11:13:47 PM
The question is how?

We're just a patient and we have no way to diagnose our illness. Is there any way to verify a good hospital? nope, is there any way to verify a honest doctor? nope. All you need is trust them and you can't do anything, it's trial and error, just pray you're not get a bad doctor.

Do you think you will not visit a hospital when you're sick due to your skepticism?

And this will continue overtime. Because one cannot distinguish or have the time to research on which hospital is good or not when we are being hit by a situation that warrants to be rushed to the hospital for emergency treatment and purpose. Hospitals, most especially private hospitals are after their own money instead of putting the interest of their customers and the honest welfarism of their customers ahead of theirs, they will still want to fill their pockets before having a consideration of that in most cases.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: hafiztalha on September 17, 2023, 10:13:49 AM
Today, doctors become very greedy. They don't treat a person like a patient, but they treat any person like a customer. They work for money only. They did not have feelings for their patients. Humanity is not common in doctors. When any accident happens, they benefit from the person bad time. They take off their clothes. They  did not consider that they are poor people, they only say that if you give me $.... Dollars I will treat this patient, otherwise I have no time for you. Their appointment fee are very high, poor person cannot afford these fee, so he go to government hospital where work is doing for a person who is in relationship with doctor. Without relation, government doctors do not treat any patient.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Macoach on September 17, 2023, 01:05:14 PM
You should the link from where you got this information I could also be a random blog but I've heard rumors of such going on but not from a hospital directly. I'll advise everyone to be cautious of the hospital there are going too , I know the government hospitals sometimes charge higher but j bet its safer. If the rumor or fact be true then I think its private hospitals that we should fear about


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: iBaba on September 24, 2023, 08:25:01 AM
The question is how?

We're just a patient and we have no way to diagnose our illness. Is there any way to verify a good hospital? nope, is there any way to verify a honest doctor? nope. All you need is trust them and you can't do anything, it's trial and error, just pray you're not get a bad doctor.

Do you think you will not visit a hospital when you're sick due to your skepticism?

It's unfortunate that we still battling with lack of basic amenities like the healthcare system. There's nothing anyone can say about our healthcare that will convince me, rather than saying that we're all left in the hands of God. Because we have a very poor dilapidated health facilities and Infrastructure. And I'm talking about our so called general hospitals not the small primary health clinic we have scatterd here with zero or little standard.

Politicians build those primary health care cilinc communities to siphon funds adrift what should be the standard clinics. Those clinics suffer from lack of medical equipments and quackery. This narrative must change for us to become more confident in our hospitals and healthcare system.

The other day, I lost one of my most beloved aunty's (paternal uncle's wife) to the cold hands of death because of lack of manpower. The community clinic has only one doctor and the doctor comes only in the weekend to offer his professional service for free. What it means is that you're at your own risk or have to be transferred some 50 kms in the case of emergencies. We lost her to child birth.


Title: Re: Please Be Careful With The Doctors And Hospitals You Visit.
Post by: Broly46 on September 26, 2023, 10:51:29 AM
It is me or thing has suddenly goes chaotic? I do not know what have gone wrong. I think everything was totally fine a while back? How does a trusted person do harmful act on the gullible person such as a patient who is helpless? It is ridiculous! btw I don't think just hospital, I think I had to rule that during the chaos, there is just nobody else you can seek help, it is just as brutal as the wild west!