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Title: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on September 18, 2023, 07:48:36 PM
The benefits of using no-KYC (Know Your Customer) casinos include:

Privacy: Players can remain anonymous since they are not required to produce any sensitive information regarding their Identity.

Easier Registration Process: Registration is usually quicker, less time consuming and less stressful as there's no need for identity verification documents.

Improved Access for Restricted Regions: Players from regions like Quatar, Brunei, Iran, Pakistan and others with strict gambling regulations and limited access to Casinos can Indulge in it without trace and will find no-KYC options more accessible and comforting.

Reduced risks of data breach: Since you're not sharing sensitive personal information, the risk of personal information shared with the casino operator being mishandled or having a data breach involving your sensitive data is given no chance.

However, it's important to note that no-KYC casinos may also have some drawbacks, such as limited regulatory involvements to excesses and
very less customer support. Additionally, they may not be as reputable and reliable as licensed and regulated casinos, you stand a chance of incurring great loss of your funds and assets, so it's crucial to exercise caution and do thorough research before patronizing them. Never forget to Always gamble responsibly.


The benefits of using KYC (Know Your Customer) casinos include:

Improved Security: KYC procedures helps to screen the players and correctly verify their Identity, making it more difficult for fraudsters to use the platform cos they cannot provide verifiable documents easily.

Regulatory Compliance: KYC compels casinos towards adhering to legal and regulatory requirements, reducing considerably the risk of legal issues and concerns.

Responsible Gambling: KYC allows casinos to monitor and instill good gambling practices and protocols, helping to protect vulnerable individuals.

Limiting fraudulent activities: It aids in the prevention of money laundering and other numerous cyber and financial crimes by verifying the source of funds of the players Involved.

Accounts Recovery: In case of losing account information, KYC can assist in account recovery, ensuring players do not loose their hard-earned funds.

I believe it is also very imperative that we know about the drawbacks of KYC Casinos like lack of privacy, documentation stress, accessibility too because if you don't have access to proper documents, you cannot partake in it, trust concerns as it is difficult to verify the extent your provided data will be utilized. it is also very much time consuming to go through these processes.

finally, having known all these pros and cons, you can make your decisions on the casinos you want to get involved with as both types of casinos have their own good sides as well as limitations.


https://guardian.ng/news/no-kyc-casinos-no-verification-crypto-casinos/

https://newsfromwales.co.uk/reasons-for-kyc-procedure-in-gambling/?amp=1


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Hatchy on September 18, 2023, 08:13:15 PM

Op, if I'm guessing correctly, you used Ai to generate your post. I couldn't get the exact write up, because the ai was design to generate different response to different users but I found something similar

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Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on September 18, 2023, 08:25:56 PM
I don't do such man, I carefully research, understand and organize my posts myself. No need for AI generated posts. You can check from my profile. I'll  appreciate you contribute to the topic instead. I'm interested in learning more about this and that's why I raised the topic.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Mate2237 on September 18, 2023, 08:30:20 PM
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The Op paragraph the AI post and make it as his own.  Op you and me know that knowledge does not come from heaven, therefore what you wrote can not be manufactured by you from your brain and you must have consulted some materials online plus the latest fastest answer generating machine AI and since you didn't produce the knowledge by yourself, you would have produce the link where you got the information. And from what @Hatchy shows that you copy the material article from the another source (online) and yet you didn't acknowledge and reference the author and make it as your own. Now that you have been caught, what do you think you have to say? And if you didn't use AI then drop the link of the information source.

And for the two options you have provided , I will choose the of that does not need KYC because the problem in KYC is too much so if any casino provide no KYC then I will choose that one over the one with KYC.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on September 18, 2023, 08:56:45 PM
I've provided links to two of the sites I visited while gathering Knowledge.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Ever-young on September 18, 2023, 11:29:29 PM
Improved Security: KYC procedures helps to screen the players and correctly verify their Identity, making it more difficult for fraudsters to use the platform cos they cannot provide verifiable documents easily.

I disagree; AI or not AI generated test, who ever the original author is is wrong on this one, when you talk about KYC, they only reduce the rate which customers are to manipulate the system but they can’t completely prevent intruders or who ever want to use the system for what ever purpose they want to from doing that

Remember that their is no one on one kind of verification process going on their, rather their is just a document required to be submitted and mosh times then age to either be verified by bot, with the help of few human support, this requires documents can be manipulated to doubt, real users data both ID, licensed plate number, house address and bank information can now be gotten online for just few bulks, so what then will prevent scammers from using their fake identification to verify a casino and make use of it in which ever way that they want.

in conclusion what I’m saying is that KYC can’t stop criminals or any form of illegal activities within the gambling section.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Yogee on September 19, 2023, 02:14:06 AM
I think people should stop believing these "No KYC" casinos. Most of them have no upfront KYC but that doesn't mean they are not going to ask in certain cases since it's part of their terms that they can enforce it when necessary. It's only a matter of time before crypto casinos would get licensed so just accept the fact that you'll have to submit documents at some point when you register.

Improved Access for Restricted Regions: Players from regions like Quatar, Brunei, Iran, Pakistan and others with strict gambling regulations and limited access to Casinos can Indulge in it without trace and will find no-KYC options more accessible and comforting.
They will have to use VPN since many casinos block users from banned countries based on IP address.

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Responsible Gambling: KYC allows casinos to monitor and instill good gambling practices and protocols, helping to protect vulnerable individuals.
I don't see why this isn't possible for non-KYC casinos. I mean they can monitor a player's activity based on their username alone and not necessarily their full name.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 19, 2023, 03:40:25 AM
I think people should stop believing these "No KYC" casinos. Most of them have no upfront KYC but that doesn't mean they are not going to ask in certain cases since it's part of their terms that they can enforce it when necessary. It's only a matter of time before crypto casinos would get licensed so just accept the fact that you'll have to submit documents at some point when you register.

You don't seem to be aware that some do not have KYC requirements in their ToS, this one for example:

https://anonibet.com/terms-and-conditions

There are still casinos, a few of them, that do not ask for KYC.

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Responsible Gambling: KYC allows casinos to monitor and instill good gambling practices and protocols, helping to protect vulnerable individuals.
I don't see why this isn't possible for non-KYC casinos. I mean they can monitor a player's activity based on their username alone and not necessarily their full name.

Some allow you to play anonymously. Or you can create a new account by changing the IP each time, and if necessary a throwaway email, so they won't be able to implement responsible gambling practices, just as they won't be able to detect if the gambler is a minor.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Japinat on September 19, 2023, 05:19:09 AM
The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: stadus on September 19, 2023, 05:59:22 AM
The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.
Clearly, there's no guarantee that a casino will continue operating as a non-KYC platform, as government policies can change over time. Perhaps there's a specific threshold of funds that would trigger KYC requirements, and yet casinos may not make this information readily available to potential gamblers to avoid discouraging them. Instead, this requirement is often buried in the Terms of Service (TOS), and many gamblers simply click the 'Sign Up' button without reading the full TOS, remaining unaware of the KYC conditions.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: noormcs5 on September 19, 2023, 06:22:40 AM
The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.
Clearly, there's no guarantee that a casino will continue operating as a non-KYC platform, as government policies can change over time. Perhaps there's a specific threshold of funds that would trigger KYC requirements, and yet casinos may not make this information readily available to potential gamblers to avoid discouraging them. Instead, this requirement is often buried in the Terms of Service (TOS), and many gamblers simply click the 'Sign Up' button without reading the full TOS, remaining unaware of the KYC conditions.

Although everyone want to play at the non KYC casino but the risk playing their and getting our money stuck is more as compare to the kyc casinos.

Sometimes the non-KYC casino may not ask for KYC until you won some big amounts. Or they can even ask for the KYC if you deposit any big amount in the casino. For this reason, i will usually deposit less in a Non-KYC casino so in case they ask for KYC or do not accept my KYC, in both cases my risk of losing money will be minimized.



Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: davis196 on September 19, 2023, 06:45:14 AM
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Improved Security: KYC procedures helps to screen the players and correctly verify their Identity, making it more difficult for fraudsters to use the platform cos they cannot provide verifiable documents easily.

Regulatory Compliance: KYC compels casinos towards adhering to legal and regulatory requirements, reducing considerably the risk of legal issues and concerns.

Responsible Gambling: KYC allows casinos to monitor and instill good gambling practices and protocols, helping to protect vulnerable individuals.

Limiting fraudulent activities: It aids in the prevention of money laundering and other numerous cyber and financial crimes by verifying the source of funds of the players Involved.

Accounts Recovery: In case of losing account information, KYC can assist in account recovery, ensuring players do not loose their hard-earned funds.

KYC casinos have easier account recovery? Are you kidding me? I have heard hundreds horror stories of gamblers being blocked from KYC casinos and with funds in their accounts. There wasn't any account recovery afterwards.
I don't believe that KYC casinos are more secure than the non-KYC casinos. KYC gives a false sense of security, but the possibility of getting scammed by the casino remains. I agree that KYC reduces the amount of fraudsters and helps against money laundering, but the overall experience for all gamblers is worse. There can't be 100% safety, security and privacy in the online gambling industry.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: piebeyb on September 19, 2023, 07:13:39 AM
I already suspected that this article had elements of AI but I didn't really think about it, let's discuss what's interesting in terms of KYC and non-KYC, in fact, as we can see today, non-KYC is not very popular with users, it's not even surprising if There are very few users compared to casinos that ask for KYC because non-KYC casinos are much more prone to cheating than casinos that ask for KYC.

Playing on sites that ask for KYC is sometimes not completely complicated and asks for KYC, as long as you don't cheat and act honestly, let alone try to launder money, maybe you will be asked to complete KYC, so far I have been gambling on sites that ask for KYC, they don't fully ask for it. my identity, because I play honestly and even though I'm only a small gambler, there are big casino sites that don't ask their users to complete KYC and can even withdraw hundreds or thousands of dollars. In today's internet world, if you want to gamble anonymously, you should not gamble online anymore. it's good to gamble in offline casinos.  :D


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Kelvinid on September 19, 2023, 07:56:05 AM
KYC casinos have easier account recovery? Are you kidding me? I have heard hundreds horror stories of gamblers being blocked from KYC casinos and with funds in their accounts. There wasn't any account recovery afterwards.
KYC casinos are regulated, while the others are not. When it comes to the possibility of recovering your funds, KYC casinos offer a better chance because they operate under government regulations. If you encounter issues with a regulated site, you can file a case against them, and they will be obligated to pay you if you win. In contrast, non-KYC casinos typically have anonymous owners, making it difficult to pursue legal action if they mistreat you.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Jawhead999 on September 19, 2023, 08:07:27 AM
However, it's important to note that no-KYC casinos may also have some drawbacks, such as limited regulatory involvements to excesses and
very less customer support. Additionally, they may not be as reputable and reliable as licensed and regulated casinos, you stand a chance of incurring great loss of your funds and assets, so it's crucial to exercise caution and do thorough research before patronizing them. Never forget to Always gamble responsibly.
There's no correlation between no KYC Casino and less customer support.

There's no great loss if you're playing in a reputable no KYC Casino that active in this forum, moreover if you only gamble small amount of money e.g. less than $1,000, you will not suffer great loss.

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KYC procedures helps to screen the players and correctly verify their Identity, making it more difficult for fraudsters to use the platform cos they cannot provide verifiable documents easily.
KYC compels casinos towards adhering to legal and regulatory requirements, reducing considerably the risk of legal issues and concerns.
KYC allows casinos to monitor and instill good gambling practices and protocols, helping to protect vulnerable individuals.
It aids in the prevention of money laundering and other numerous cyber and financial crimes by verifying the source of funds of the players Involved.
In case of losing account information, KYC can assist in account recovery, ensuring players do not loose their hard-earned funds.
1. Wrong, if someone already verify their account, it's mean the casino will not ask KYC again whenever he want to access his account.
2. What's the relation for a gambler? it just benefit for the country.
3. Wrong, the casino will not stop you to gamble because they're profit from it.
4. Same like number 2.
5. Wrong, they will give excuse if the KYC is different or blurred and they will keep demanding more KYC until you can't.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Crypt0Gore on September 19, 2023, 11:04:11 AM
@Jawhead999, $1000 or even $500 is a lot for many people, some can't afford this money, they don't have up to this amount in their bank accounts and when it comes to gambling, they will find $1000 to gamble, either through taking loan or other, only to end up losing everything.

It's not a responsible gambling if one isn't making enough money per month and using all they have to try out their luck on a casino, that's a very bad gambling strategy,  there are many things that comes first before gambling, like savings, emergency money, investment money, if all these are set then you have a responsible life going on, then you can start using some small part of money to gamble.

Losing $1000 to a casino is considered a great loss to someone like me, because I am not making up to $500 in a month, that's why I don't use more than $40 max for gambling and most times I even use less than $40.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Broadanbig on September 19, 2023, 12:22:17 PM
KYC or no KYC what casinos are after is their profit. Have you ever wondered why some casinos would start as a KYC free casino and after a while when members have deposited their funds and have started playing games and winning and when it is due withdrawal they tell them to do KYC and if the gambler refuses, they block or ban them permanently from accessing their account. In some cases if the KYC details are suspected to be from nations that have restrictions on gambling, they take advantage of it to penalise the gambler by suspending their account while in some cases they take the assets of the gambler.

One of the major challenges of KYC I think is the issue of privacy. When ones privacy is compromised, their is every possibility that their details would be used against or possibly do some shady that they have no knowledge about. It is a personal choice to go for a KYC or KYC free casino.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: gunhell16 on September 19, 2023, 12:30:27 PM
You know, for me, with or without KYC, it's fine, and there's no problem because it's not a big deal to me. For me, as long as I enjoy being entertained, that's a big thing. It seems that even if I win when I play gambling, it's like the casino rewards me because I was enjoyed or entertained.

So I hope for other gamblers that they don't make KYC an issue anymore. If you don't want KYC, don't play at a casino that requires KYC because no casino forces us to play on their gambling platform to gamble.

Also, I didn't see any problem at the casino even if I passed KYC because, until now, I still play from time to time.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: dezoel on September 19, 2023, 06:58:50 PM
Well, I agree with most of the points mentioned, however, I don't really think that the registration process is troublesome in a KYC compliant casino platform because they barely ask you for KYC verification during the registration process but they do it later. Some won't even ask you to complete your KYC when you are making a deposit unless it is too large, but they might ask you for KYC verification during the withdrawal process if the amount isn't too small.

That being said, I wouldn't recommend anyone using non-KYC platforms if they are willing to gamble with large amounts because security is the most important thing when it comes to finances. If your funds are lost or the casino closes down its services all of a sudden, there is no way for the customers to get their money back.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Accardo on September 19, 2023, 09:35:17 PM
Trusting gambling platforms with your personal details is vague, it's risky as we can't explain how they store the data. The increase of leaked or sold documents of people, is a disadvatage of KYC. Many players do not give their real information, they buy it. I'll always prefer the non kyc casino due to its fast registration process. But, casinos accept KYC to provide atleast an information of a player, indulging in money laundering. If not, the Government can hold the casino responsible for supporting such action. Yet the disadvantages goes back to other innocent players, who submit their real documents. Security conscious players, who understand this, don't go for KYC casino. Any reputable no KYC casino, though rare, will experience rapid growth in players. Meddling with our documents online, just for gambling isn't encouraged. It's better to play in physical casino.


Responsible Gambling: KYC allows casinos to monitor and instill good gambling practices and protocols, helping to protect vulnerable individuals.


I don't think casinos care about, if a gambler is responsible or not. The best available care they show on vulnerable individuals is to write the "play responsibly" advise on their TOS. On the other hand, they also use KYC to keep track of underage players, but, its already late if the casino asks this during withdrawal. The underage person gambled already, before asking or investigating to know if they're qualified to gamble. Even, teenager have means of tricking the casino, with the details of adults. Casinos are concerned about traffic and profits, they invest little effort in eliminating irresponsible gambling. Another good actions casinos take against addicted gamblers, is by finding out if a player has been banned by another casino for being addicted, and then terminate their account or ban them too.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on September 19, 2023, 09:43:21 PM
The Op paragraph the AI post and make it as his own.  Op you and me know that knowledge does not come from heaven, therefore what you wrote can not be manufactured by you from your brain ..[..]
y'all just be blabbing incorrectly on a sited post like this just to improve post count.... How sensible is this statement of yours?? Do you take time to revise whatever thoughts you've got to share with the public at all??? Or you just go about saying anything that comes in your head?...haaaa!!

Well, I'll have to say that the choice is left for anyone that feels more comfortable, either with pseudonymity or not... I feel everything we do online here should basically be about our safety first so, I'd personally go for the KYCs...yeahh?

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Slow death on September 19, 2023, 10:05:34 PM
nowadays many of these new casinos and when I talk about new casinos I am referring to casinos that have been in this market for only 3 years, have used the TOS as a weapon, especially in the kyc part, even when a person does level 2 kyc, if If this person deposits little money but is lucky enough to hit a game with a large multiplier, then the casino will ask for level 3 KYC, which generally ask for proof of where the funds came from, see how ridiculous this is because they let the person deposit little money. , they let the person play and when that person wins a lot of money in the casino itself, then the casino wants to know how that person has a lot of money in the casino account

This type of behavior from certain casinos is simply unbelievable, and when the person hands over the document, which is most of the time a photo containing the crypto account address he used to send the money and a photo of the exchange account or crypto wallet , the casino refuses. the casino completely forgets that we are in the cryptocurrency market where people buy cryptocurrencies to hodl and do day trade with cryptocurrencies, the casino purposely keeps asking for things from the bank but at the casino the person did not deposit money using the bank's debit card, so One thing is ridiculous about the casino's attitude

and it's not because the casino really doesn't realize that their attitude is ridiculous, they know that, but as they want to retain the customers' money so they keep using all kinds of meaningless things until they tire the customer so that the customer gives up his money that is in casino, by this I mean that having or not having kyc declared in the casino's TOS, as long as the casino behaves bad and uses its TOS as a weapon to steal people's money, then there will be no point in talking about the advantage and disadvantage of kyc and not kyc. Most casinos have already realized that putting in their TOS that they will ask for kyc and lying to people that they didn't ask for kyc has become a good strategy for them, although I can't understand how people believe these lies


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: arwin100 on September 19, 2023, 10:07:21 PM
I think people should stop believing these "No KYC" casinos. Most of them have no upfront KYC but that doesn't mean they are not going to ask in certain cases since it's part of their terms that they can enforce it when necessary. It's only a matter of time before crypto casinos would get licensed so just accept the fact that you'll have to submit documents at some point when you register.

They are just going after those players doesn't like to submit their KYC but the question their are they reputable enough to run a transparent casino? or do they have big funds to support their gamblers win. We can't be so sure if gamblers won some huge amount of cash on their casino will not required to submit this requirements since the common scenario happen is they ask us this so that we can possibly withdraw our earned money. That's why its better to be ready and choose those reputable casino since they are proven by years and KYC is not the big problem there reputation and their capacity to pay their players is important factor which can gamblers should needed to see.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: BitDane on September 19, 2023, 10:57:22 PM
I think people should stop believing these "No KYC" casinos. Most of them have no upfront KYC but that doesn't mean they are not going to ask in certain cases since it's part of their terms that they can enforce it when necessary. It's only a matter of time before crypto casinos would get licensed so just accept the fact that you'll have to submit documents at some point when you register.

I believe every license casino have to ask for KYC no matter how they hide it as a strategy to get gamblers that is avoiding KYC verification process.  No casino can be exempted from the regulatory board. 

I also don't want to play in a casino that has no license because there is a huge possibility that they can exit scam anytime since these casino is not bound to any rulings.  So I prefer a casino that is under regulation than a casino that is operating illegally (without license).



Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: dothebeats on September 19, 2023, 11:00:10 PM
These are just the basic things that I guess a lot of people would have known by now. Currently, there's not much appeal to no KYC platforms as the reports on users trying casinos out that promotes their platforms using this 'feature' yet still require KYC at some point is increasing by the day. Also, people have realized that most of the time, no KYC casinos are those trying to fish out desperate users for their money, and are not delivering as promised or sometimes end up being a scam. Even though they know of the comparisons, most people would surely just go towards KYC platforms.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: bittraffic on September 20, 2023, 01:35:03 AM

More users will believe no KYC casinos are better which they would prefer using than the ones asking no KYC.  KYC casinos are still the top casinos though.

Somebodys gotta list the disadvantages for both classification to see how much users dislikes which. In reality, KYC casinos are still the ones we go to because decentralized casinos are no way guaranteeing security.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Japinat on September 20, 2023, 02:32:52 AM
The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.
Clearly, there's no guarantee that a casino will continue operating as a non-KYC platform, as government policies can change over time. Perhaps there's a specific threshold of funds that would trigger KYC requirements, and yet casinos may not make this information readily available to potential gamblers to avoid discouraging them. Instead, this requirement is often buried in the Terms of Service (TOS), and many gamblers simply click the 'Sign Up' button without reading the full TOS, remaining unaware of the KYC conditions.

Although everyone want to play at the non KYC casino but the risk playing their and getting our money stuck is more as compare to the kyc casinos.

Sometimes the non-KYC casino may not ask for KYC until you won some big amounts. Or they can even ask for the KYC if you deposit any big amount in the casino. For this reason, i will usually deposit less in a Non-KYC casino so in case they ask for KYC or do not accept my KYC, in both cases my risk of losing money will be minimized.

That's how you manage the risk. When a casino isn't regulated, there's a higher chance of losing money, and it becomes virtually impossible to recover your funds if they go dark. That's why, even though there are many casinos with good reputations that lack a license, I still consider them high-risk casinos.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: michellee on September 20, 2023, 02:39:20 AM
More users will believe no KYC casinos are better which they would prefer using than the ones asking no KYC.  KYC casinos are still the top casinos though.

Somebodys gotta list the disadvantages for both classification to see how much users dislikes which. In reality, KYC casinos are still the ones we go to because decentralized casinos are no way guaranteeing security.
In the future, every casino will ask its customers to do KYC, even though the casinos said they didn't ask for it at the beginning. But with pressure from regulators, it makes it difficult for them to ignore it so they will implement KYC, either at the start or when the customer wants to withdraw their money.

Crypto casinos must adjust to the existing situation and conditions if they still want to continue their business. Even if the casino uses a method of connecting a personal wallet to the casino, later users may be asked to do KYC. We, as users, can only be prepared when the time comes.

We will miss the days we registered at crypto casinos using just an email and a password. There is no request to do KYC when we want to withdraw the money. But those times are over, and we must be prepared for what will happen next.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Reatim on September 20, 2023, 04:11:11 AM

More users will believe no KYC casinos are better which they would prefer using than the ones asking no KYC.  KYC casinos are still the top casinos though.
well yeah , KYC asking casino are the top in the rank now, maybe because gamblers in crypto already understand the advantage and safeties.
because as we remember in the past years, we are keep asking for privacy but nowadays? we learn its favor to every legitimate players.
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Somebodys gotta list the disadvantages for both classification to see how much users dislikes which. In reality, KYC casinos are still the ones we go to because decentralized casinos are no way guaranteeing security.
yes, though there are some respected casino that had been running for many years that still does not ask for KYC but they are fewer than centralized  casinos.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: kingvirtus09 on September 20, 2023, 04:49:11 AM
According to what I know, the beauty of no KYC in a casino is that when it comes to the anonymity of a gambler, it is encouraged because of the privacy issue. In addition to that, the casino also offers fast account creation and faster withdrawal. No KYC is attractive for online casino gamblers.

But of course, if you are the type that wants no KYC casinos, you should know the reputable casinos that have a good track record in the crypto gambling business that you will also enter. Don't just deposit a large amount; just make sure that the casino is legitimate. casino, you will gamble, and some of the casinos that I think are okay are the following:

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Source: https://insidebitcoins.com/bitcoin-casinos/best-no-kyc-casinos


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Fatunad on September 20, 2023, 04:59:24 AM
The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.
Clearly, there's no guarantee that a casino will continue operating as a non-KYC platform, as government policies can change over time. Perhaps there's a specific threshold of funds that would trigger KYC requirements, and yet casinos may not make this information readily available to potential gamblers to avoid discouraging them. Instead, this requirement is often buried in the Terms of Service (TOS), and many gamblers simply click the 'Sign Up' button without reading the full TOS, remaining unaware of the KYC conditions.

Although everyone want to play at the non KYC casino but the risk playing their and getting our money stuck is more as compare to the kyc casinos.

Sometimes the non-KYC casino may not ask for KYC until you won some big amounts. Or they can even ask for the KYC if you deposit any big amount in the casino. For this reason, i will usually deposit less in a Non-KYC casino so in case they ask for KYC or do not accept my KYC, in both cases my risk of losing money will be minimized.

That's how you manage the risk. When a casino isn't regulated, there's a higher chance of losing money, and it becomes virtually impossible to recover your funds if they go dark. That's why, even though there are many casinos with good reputations that lack a license, I still consider them high-risk casinos.
They coudl really vanished in thin air and wont really be able to trace up just because they are just fully or simply anonymous and thats really the big cons of it.You are right that even those platforms are long time running and reputable but in speaking about risks then it is really that high and something that you shouldn't really be confident with because once these platforms do suffer from that bankruptcy then they would really be just
simply ran away without leaving any trace and since its not regulation or licensed  then there's no way that we could really be able to talk about recovery and this is the biggest problem of it. This is why some gamblers would really be just simply accepting on having that dealing with those centralized platforms even they do call themselves crypto casinos but since they are regulated then it is really still that abiding with governments
laws and regulations which would really be passed up into its users or gamblers on which it isnt really that shocking anymore to have this kind of system. So as a gambler then it would really be a matter of choice
which one we would really be choosing but for me then i would be sticking with the current ones, regulated but arent imposing strict KYC compliance which i do prefer. I do only play for fun and not
really that heavily be that investing or putting or spend money much.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 20, 2023, 03:28:10 PM
What many need to know is the process so that there are no casinos that are so demanding with KYC, I understand that you want to do or have done research relevant to this, but all we are looking for is that KYC is more or less reduced, I don't know If you are one of the players who likes to leave their KYC, but in particular not me, that is why the issue with KYC is so broad, it could be said that a KYC when it is requested by a casino, it goes by levels, depending on what you want to withdraw, then what I have always thought is that they should approach it with different approaches, obviously the correct thing is that from a casino before a person goes to make a deposit, they inform them that they have to comply with KYC so that they can withdraw, because the KYC level goes from one withdrawal amount to another, that is what they should do before anything.

Being clear with this, it is obvious that many people cannot enter the casino, because they will be limited and will not be able to comply with the KYC, but it is a very particular way of telling the players that they will not get any unpleasant surprises. What I think is that from those things they can do it so that they keep, because what the Players don't like is that they play, win and then they come across the notice that they cannot withdraw the money because they have to comply with the KYC, So these things are what make you angry and that's the only thing that should be avoided.

KYC is currently almost mandatory for all casinos, there is no casino that escapes this unless it is a totally decentralized casino, for that reason we can do other things , Decentralized casinos basically charge everyone for the entrance and everything moves , even though privacy is preserved and anonymity is preserved , because things there are at another level, in a Centralized casino they can be quite strong due to these demands, so basically it is what we should see.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Hispo on September 20, 2023, 06:00:09 PM
...because decentralized casinos are no way guaranteeing security.

Though, we cannot deny that there is certainly some attractive features some gamblers would like from decentralized casinos, or casinos which can be considered to be open source. There would be no doubt about the fairness of the software.

On the other hand, keeping in mind there is already many precedents of decentralized services which have been hacked and stolen through exploits, then it would not judge if some gamblers would not dare to deposit their money in a decentralized casino.

In this business it would seem that reputation and reliability is more important than the net decentralization a casino can offer, and thus why centralized and regulated casinos are dominant in this ecosystem, they are not a warranty of security either, but when a hack happens gambler are less likely to suffer massive losses.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: CarnagexD on September 20, 2023, 06:27:58 PM
I think people should stop believing these "No KYC" casinos. Most of them have no upfront KYC but that doesn't mean they are not going to ask in certain cases since it's part of their terms that they can enforce it when necessary. It's only a matter of time before crypto casinos would get licensed so just accept the fact that you'll have to submit documents at some point when you register.

They are just going after those players doesn't like to submit their KYC but the question their are they reputable enough to run a transparent casino? or do they have big funds to support their gamblers win. We can't be so sure if gamblers won some huge amount of cash on their casino will not required to submit this requirements since the common scenario happen is they ask us this so that we can possibly withdraw our earned money. That's why its better to be ready and choose those reputable casino since they are proven by years and KYC is not the big problem there reputation and their capacity to pay their players is important factor which can gamblers should needed to see.

Maybe at first glance KYC requirements can seem like an inconvenience to some players, they are an integral part of responsible and regulated gambling. Choosing a reputable casino ensures that your personal and financial information is handled securely and that you have a higher likelihood of receiving your winnings promptly.

But not only the KYC of the players, it would also be better if there is transparency of the online casinos especiall if there's changes in their opereations or terms and conditions.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Dimitri94 on September 20, 2023, 06:56:42 PM
I think people should stop believing these "No KYC" casinos. Most of them have no upfront KYC but that doesn't mean they are not going to ask in certain cases since it's part of their terms that they can enforce it when necessary. It's only a matter of time before crypto casinos would get licensed so just accept the fact that you'll have to submit documents at some point when you register.

I believe every license casino have to ask for KYC no matter how they hide it as a strategy to get gamblers that is avoiding KYC verification process.  No casino can be exempted from the regulatory board. 

I also don't want to play in a casino that has no license because there is a huge possibility that they can exit scam anytime since these casino is not bound to any rulings.  So I prefer a casino that is under regulation than a casino that is operating illegally (without license).
KYC is now mandatory in almost every casino. Although some casinos allow gambling without the KYC process, it is considered for those who have gained popularity or gained people's trust, but it is risky for those who are trying to operate a new casino. Normally one common feature of cryptocasinos is that KYC is not required. But now KYC has become mandatory due to various government regulations. But to avoid risk, gamblers must have confidence in licensed casinos where KYC is mandatory.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: ChuckBuck on September 20, 2023, 07:29:51 PM
nowadays many of these new casinos and when I talk about new casinos I am referring to casinos that have been in this market for only 3 years, have used the TOS as a weapon, especially in the kyc part, even when a person does level 2 kyc, if If this person deposits little money but is lucky enough to hit a game with a large multiplier, then the casino will ask for level 3 KYC, which generally ask for proof of where the funds came from, see how ridiculous this is because they let the person deposit little money. , they let the person play and when that person wins a lot of money in the casino itself, then the casino wants to know how that person has a lot of money in the casino account

This type of behavior from certain casinos is simply unbelievable, and when the person hands over the document, which is most of the time a photo containing the crypto account address he used to send the money and a photo of the exchange account or crypto wallet , the casino refuses. the casino completely forgets that we are in the cryptocurrency market where people buy cryptocurrencies to hodl and do day trade with cryptocurrencies, the casino purposely keeps asking for things from the bank but at the casino the person did not deposit money using the bank's debit card, so One thing is ridiculous about the casino's attitude

and it's not because the casino really doesn't realize that their attitude is ridiculous, they know that, but as they want to retain the customers' money so they keep using all kinds of meaningless things until they tire the customer so that the customer gives up his money that is in casino, by this I mean that having or not having kyc declared in the casino's TOS, as long as the casino behaves bad and uses its TOS as a weapon to steal people's money, then there will be no point in talking about the advantage and disadvantage of kyc and not kyc. Most casinos have already realized that putting in their TOS that they will ask for kyc and lying to people that they didn't ask for kyc has become a good strategy for them, although I can't understand how people believe these lies
Three years or thirty, they've caught on to using the TOS, especially the KYC part, as their trusty weapon. However, KYC is shit. It's a needless and tiresome inconvenience for  players. And who's the puppet master behind this? None other than our beloved government, forcing these rules upon casinos.

Nevertheless, These casinos are insane. They eagerly accept even the smallest deposits. But how come it's KYC Level 3 time all of a sudden when a player has a tremendous win because of Luck? What a joke. The crypto things are even funnier. We're in a crypto age, and these casinos expect bank proofs when crypto was used? Absurd!

The truth is, they know their tactics are ridiculous. All they're doing is taking a chance on the reality that most players will ultimately get tired and give up on their money. The play on the TOS is a typical example of making a promise and then breaking it. People falling for it is even more ridiculous  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Wiwo on September 20, 2023, 08:03:13 PM
These are just the basic things that I guess a lot of people would have known by now. Currently, there's not much appeal to no KYC platforms as the reports on users trying casinos out that promotes their platforms using this 'feature' yet still require KYC at some point is increasing by the day. Also, people have realized that most of the time, no KYC casinos are those trying to fish out desperate users for their money, and are not delivering as promised or sometimes end up being a scam. Even though they know of the comparisons, most people would surely just go towards KYC platforms.
Unless for the newbies who can be easily deceive by such statement,  since their may not have the experience of first reading the terms and conditions of the casino and to check if the casino is a licensed casino or not,  and what are the level of the kyc requirement on the site, this are all that should be checked before considering a casino to be ok to create your account on.

And also we as gambler must make up our mind to either gamble on centralized casinos or decentralized casinos where KYC will not be required.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Mate2237 on September 21, 2023, 05:01:56 PM
y'all just be blabbing incorrectly on a sited post like this just to improve post count.... How sensible is this statement of yours?? Do you take time to revise whatever thoughts you've got to share with the public at all??? Or you just go about saying anything that comes in your head?...haaaa!!

Well, I'll have to say that the choice is left for anyone that feels more comfortable, either with pseudonymity or not... I feel everything we do online here should basically be about our safety first so, I'd personally go for the KYCs...yeahh?

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I make that comment for the op to avoid using AI for his posts but seen you are also supporting and encouraging him to do more. I never post for weekly count. I make post as a normal forum user. You are just vomiting and supporting nonsense. Do you really read the Op and made research before attacking me? Before I made the comment, I made research and you just came and insulting me of "blabbing incorrectly". Your utterance was very bad, I was not expecting you to support such write up or post.

Anonymity in online is unarguable. And I support the non KYC casinos because I don't like stress myself. Yes everyone have their own way of doing things. And if KYC will give me issue then I leave it for non KYC casinos.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Fortify on September 21, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
The benefits of using no-KYC (Know Your Customer) casinos include:

Privacy: Players can remain anonymous since they are not required to produce any sensitive information regarding their Identity.

Easier Registration Process: Registration is usually quicker, less time consuming and less stressful as there's no need for identity verification documents.

Improved Access for Restricted Regions: Players from regions like Quatar, Brunei, Iran, Pakistan and others with strict gambling regulations and limited access to Casinos can Indulge in it without trace and will find no-KYC options more accessible and comforting.

Reduced risks of data breach: Since you're not sharing sensitive personal information, the risk of personal information shared with the casino operator being mishandled or having a data breach involving your sensitive data is given no chance.

However, it's important to note that no-KYC casinos may also have some drawbacks, such as limited regulatory involvements to excesses and
very less customer support. Additionally, they may not be as reputable and reliable as licensed and regulated casinos, you stand a chance of incurring great loss of your funds and assets, so it's crucial to exercise caution and do thorough research before patronizing them. Never forget to Always gamble responsibly.


The benefits of using KYC (Know Your Customer) casinos include:

Improved Security: KYC procedures helps to screen the players and correctly verify their Identity, making it more difficult for fraudsters to use the platform cos they cannot provide verifiable documents easily.

Regulatory Compliance: KYC compels casinos towards adhering to legal and regulatory requirements, reducing considerably the risk of legal issues and concerns.

Responsible Gambling: KYC allows casinos to monitor and instill good gambling practices and protocols, helping to protect vulnerable individuals.

Limiting fraudulent activities: It aids in the prevention of money laundering and other numerous cyber and financial crimes by verifying the source of funds of the players Involved.

Accounts Recovery: In case of losing account information, KYC can assist in account recovery, ensuring players do not loose their hard-earned funds.

I believe it is also very imperative that we know about the drawbacks of KYC Casinos like lack of privacy, documentation stress, accessibility too because if you don't have access to proper documents, you cannot partake in it, trust concerns as it is difficult to verify the extent your provided data will be utilized. it is also very much time consuming to go through these processes.

finally, having known all these pros and cons, you can make your decisions on the casinos you want to get involved with as both types of casinos have their own good sides as well as limitations.

There are a lot of clever criminals out there and their tactics are always evolving over time. Outside of the biggest casinos shown discussed here, if you ever end up on a new site then you have to take a big leap of faith that they are genuine. There's much money to be made in collecting personal identity documents like passports and driving licenses, which can then be used to open accounts or be resold for all sorts of purposes. It is only through many years of experience that you might be able to detect little things that you feel might be "off" and you should stick with your instincts if anything seems out of place. Even very poor English on the customer service/help desk can be an indicator that something is wrong.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: MainIbem on September 21, 2023, 05:31:05 PM

More users will believe no KYC casinos are better which they would prefer using than the ones asking no KYC.  KYC casinos are still the top casinos though.

Somebodys gotta list the disadvantages for both classification to see how much users dislikes which. In reality, KYC casinos are still the ones we go to because decentralized casinos are no way guaranteeing security.

But as a gambler why do we always be afraid of kyc casino or gambling sites that request our personal details for withdrawal?
To me i still love those site that asked for kyc despite how risky it's to reveal our real identity but let say what are afraid of or do we intend to do evil in the casino site, which is not possible and i don't you would violate the their rules so why not just go for the kyc site to stops drama from most of the site that says no kyc but at last would definitely needs our details to request to withdraw a higher amount.

The most important things we should look out for is how the said casino would be trusted in terms of our funds and security that any funds deposited in that site is protected than just giving us stories after even collecting our kyc details. It might still occurs that our funds are not safe in their hands so, look out for the best site are always better to gamble before we could think about kyc.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Onyeeze on September 21, 2023, 05:36:41 PM
I don't do such man, I carefully research, understand and organize my posts myself. No need for AI generated posts. You can check from my profile. I'll  appreciate you contribute to the topic instead. I'm interested in learning more about this and that's why I raised the topic.
Artificial intelligent post is not hard to identify and whenever you see it you can identify it properly, but sometimes when you, but I want you to take note of responding to someone who reacted to your post because I know that you have not observed were you can respond to someone post directly so that the person will know that they are referring to you, what I wanted you to do is to make sure you click on the quote button of anyone you want to respond to, because if you make your post like this nobody the particular person you are quoting, so you need to be specific.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: BIT-BENDER on September 21, 2023, 05:46:34 PM
The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.
It's not possible to get a clear statistics on if people actually prefer KYC required casino over no KYC required casino, personally I have no problem with kyc required casino platform or no KYC. But there are factors that should be considered before choosing.

Anonymity: many Crypto-currency enthusiast are strong on having their identity secured and protected so they would tilt towards the no KYC required exchange but if the security of their identity can be assured then I see no problem with undergoing KYC requirements.

The individuals: some individuals can have criminal history and would definitely not go for KYC required process.



Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: SamReomo on September 21, 2023, 06:14:22 PM
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Anonymity: many Crypto-currency enthusiast are strong on having their identity secured and protected so they would tilt towards the no KYC required exchange but if the security of their identity can be assured then I see no problem with undergoing KYC requirements.

The individuals: some individuals can have criminal history and would definitely not go for KYC required process.



Well, that's the most important thing that you mentioned. The majority of crypto-currency enthusiasts or you can say gamblers don't really want to reveal their true identity in public due to privacy concerns and they love to remain anonymous. Those users will always prefer to go with the casinos that don't require KYC and they will try their best to avoid all those casinos that require KYC verification. Sometimes the gamblers who are in having good position in government also try to avoid KYC thing because it would be a difficult thing for a police officer to share his details on a casino site where he enjoys spending time. Such people just love to spend time on those casinos where information about KYC isn't needed, and sometimes those people who have done any criminal activity will also avoid the KYC thing. But, the criminals are so dam good at doing crimes that they can easily manipulate someone else and use his/her documents to complete KYC requirements.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: goldkingcoiner on September 21, 2023, 06:50:59 PM
I would like to add that if someone does decide to go for a KYC enabled casino, it would be a better thing to do the KYC before depositing any funds. Because either way, the casino will, at some point, demand KYC. And when this happens, they might take much longer to verify your KYC documents because they do not have any time limits on how long they are allowed to legally freeze your account (as far as I know) until the KYC procedure is done. This might leave you waiting to withdraw your money. Depending on your situation, this can become a big problem. Especially if you have to wait months.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Onyeeze on September 21, 2023, 07:12:46 PM
I would like to add that if someone does decide to go for a KYC enabled casino, it would be a better thing to do the KYC before depositing any funds. Because either way, the casino will, at some point, demand KYC. And when this happens, they might take much longer to verify your KYC documents because they do not have any time limits on how long they are allowed to legally freeze your account (as far as I know) until the KYC procedure is done. This might leave you waiting to withdraw your money. Depending on your situation, this can become a big problem. Especially if you have to wait months.
That is what some people doesn't know and after making a mistake they will start complaining of money they lose in a gambling platform which is improper, kyc verification is necessary for some who have passed through a gambling platform before, because when you have not done your gambling verification in platform you are totally at risk because I know very well doing that will safe you a stress of been complained in a particular platform, so I know that gambling platform have to do with instructions and some people don't like following instructions


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: abel1337 on September 21, 2023, 07:17:11 PM
I would like to add that if someone does decide to go for a KYC enabled casino, it would be a better thing to do the KYC before depositing any funds. Because either way, the casino will, at some point, demand KYC. And when this happens, they might take much longer to verify your KYC documents because they do not have any time limits on how long they are allowed to legally freeze your account (as far as I know) until the KYC procedure is done. This might leave you waiting to withdraw your money. Depending on your situation, this can become a big problem. Especially if you have to wait months.
That make sense since if you submit your KYC, it eliminates the problem that revolves around KYC and you will have the confidence to think that you will get your withdrawal. I think this is good for people who would want to stay long in the casino and has plan to gamble more.

Though there are people like me who gamble on KYC enabled casinos but only do KYC when asked, my reason is I don't gamble that much and have no experience of getting my account frozen because of not submitting KYC.

Importantly, just play on a reputable KYC enabled casino if you can, the possibility of not getting a lot of headache from withdrawing into those are high.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: o48o on September 21, 2023, 07:41:08 PM
I don't do such man, I carefully research, understand and organize my posts myself. No need for AI generated posts. You can check from my profile. I'll  appreciate you contribute to the topic instead. I'm interested in learning more about this and that's why I raised the topic.
Ok, but if your post is almost indistinguishable from generic AI post, maybe you haven't made enough effort. No one can stop you using AI or definitely prove that you are using AI, but even if you used it, you need to make more effort. Writers often speak about finding their voice to express themselves. These days it's even more important to rise the bar and not settling from generic informative posts.

 Because why would anyone believe you if we get basically same text with one question for AI? Ot doesn't help if you answere with your own voice in replies, claiming that you have written it yourself, because anyone can do that.

If you really didn't use AI, you need to check how AI writes because you don't want to sound like a generic answer of it.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Salahmu on September 21, 2023, 07:47:13 PM
Kyc verification is very important on most casinos but I don't no why most people object to casinos that offers kyc perhaps they lack the necessary requirements that's why but although most casinos can still allowed withdrawals without kyc but with a limited amount so is very important to under go the kyc verification were as you will be allowed to withdraw as many as you want but perhaps if you decided not to verified yourself there may come a time whe the need to withdraw a huge amount will arise and by then to verify yourself could take a lot of time because the platform will notice that is because of the amount you want to withdraw that's why you're doing the kyc, but actually one of things I like about casinos that require kyc is that they have high security measures such as using 2FA to enhance the security of your account, so I always like casinos that needs kyc verification because it gives me an edge that there security is intact.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: CryptSafe on September 21, 2023, 09:09:18 PM
KYC or no KYC casinos are making their money from gamblers. Security on casino is not guaranteed or you want to send your assets to a casino to keep it there? I know you would object to it because you know it is not safe so why KYC in the first place. If a casino could be hacked and all funds gone and in some cases some casinos do away with their clients assets and are no where to be found and these are people that demands for clients to do a KYC before they could use their platform so who is supposed to do the KYC for who to know who is n the first place. I think it is time we start demanding for casinos to do KYC here before coming for members here because too the scam these days from casinos is getting out of hand.

I just believe most casinos are just playing to the government of their jurisdiction by conducting KYC for just formality and to fulfill all forms of righteousness so as not to fall victim of any government sanctions within their areas of operations.

I see KYC as a scam itself because our details are not protected after keeping them in the custody of third party exchanges and casinos.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: goaldigger on September 21, 2023, 09:45:24 PM
I would like to add that if someone does decide to go for a KYC enabled casino, it would be a better thing to do the KYC before depositing any funds. Because either way, the casino will, at some point, demand KYC. And when this happens, they might take much longer to verify your KYC documents because they do not have any time limits on how long they are allowed to legally freeze your account (as far as I know) until the KYC procedure is done. This might leave you waiting to withdraw your money. Depending on your situation, this can become a big problem. Especially if you have to wait months.
That’s correct if you don’t want to experience any delays on your gambling experience, then better to comply first before making any deposit by doing this you are saving yourself from any trouble in the future. Many prefer a KYC enable site already as this is more secured and protected, while some still looking for a site that is completely KYC free and I think the number of those sites are already decreasing sine many sites now are being forced to implement the KYC as mandatory.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: khaled0111 on September 21, 2023, 10:35:34 PM
OP, not sure if you have used an ai to help you make this post or no but it's clear you have compiled some sentences from different sources and made of it an interesting subject.
So, are we supposed to argue whether no kyc casinos are better than kyc casinos or what! Any crypto user Wil tel you that no-kyc casinos are the best. However, no-kyc casinos can't survive. They may run for one or two years then they will vanish.
Let's stop this comparison, because right now there is nothing like no kyc casinos - not on the clear net.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: serjent05 on September 21, 2023, 11:36:09 PM
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Anonymity: many Crypto-currency enthusiast are strong on having their identity secured and protected so they would tilt towards the no KYC required exchange but if the security of their identity can be assured then I see no problem with undergoing KYC requirements.

The individuals: some individuals can have criminal history and would definitely not go for KYC required process.



Well, that's the most important thing that you mentioned. The majority of crypto-currency enthusiasts or you can say gamblers don't really want to reveal their true identity in public due to privacy concerns and they love to remain anonymous. Those users will always prefer to go with the casinos that don't require KYC and they will try their best to avoid all those casinos that require KYC verification. Sometimes the gamblers who are in having good position in government also try to avoid KYC thing because it would be a difficult thing for a police officer to share his details on a casino site where he enjoys spending time. Such people just love to spend time on those casinos where information about KYC isn't needed, and sometimes those people who have done any criminal activity will also avoid the KYC thing. But, the criminals are so dam good at doing crimes that they can easily manipulate someone else and use his/her documents to complete KYC requirements.

Undergoing KYC does not mean that our identity will be publicly broadcasted, that is the common misconception of those paranoid with their privacy.  Remember once the casino is licensed and regulated, whatever data they collect are bound by data privacy law and no one can easily get this data from them unless it is ordered by the court.

The government officials if I am not mistaken are not allowed to gamble even enter and stay on the gambling premises, at least in my country.

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All government officials and employees shall strictly observe and comply with all pertinent laws, issuances and policies prohibiting government personnel to enter, stay, or play in gambling casinos.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: khaled0111 on September 21, 2023, 11:56:53 PM
Undergoing KYC does not mean that our identity will be publicly broadcasted, that is the common misconception of those paranoid with their privacy.  Remember once the casino is licensed and regulated, whatever data they collect are bound by data privacy law and no one can easily get this data from them unless it is ordered by the court.
The moment you submit your documents to an online service then it's not yours anymore and your privacy is no longer under your control. Regulators can have access to these information if they want to and at any moment they want. Hackers, if they gain access to the casini/service's databases, then they will have access to your documents. The casini/service owner can sell your documents to any entity (usually on the dark web) he wants and there is nothing you can do about it.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: harizen on September 22, 2023, 12:01:52 AM

Don't take our gambling experience too much complicated.

Referring to KYC specifically, if you find that requirement uncomfortable then stay away from it. Read the site terms if KYC is mandatory or will be subject as a requirement in the future, in special cases not mentioned in the Terms and Service.

For me, regardless if online fiat casino or crypto, I already accepted that KYC is already part of my gambling experience.

I don't have a problem complying to it "only" if necessary to do so.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: kingvirtus09 on September 22, 2023, 04:59:10 AM
Undergoing KYC does not mean that our identity will be publicly broadcasted, that is the common misconception of those paranoid with their privacy.  Remember once the casino is licensed and regulated, whatever data they collect are bound by data privacy law and no one can easily get this data from them unless it is ordered by the court.
The moment you submit your documents to an online service then it's not yours anymore and your privacy is no longer under your control. Regulators can have access to these information if they want to and at any moment they want. Hackers, if they gain access to the casini/service's databases, then they will have access to your documents. The casini/service owner can sell your documents to any entity (usually on the dark web) he wants and there is nothing you can do about it.


Yes, but if we don't trust a casino, why would we give it our personal documents? The bank operates similarly, right? Or any business sector to which we supply personal ID documents, they are able to carry out your suggestion, right?

Thus, it depends on our level of trust in a casino. Do you believe that once you trust a casino and provide your ID documents for KYC, they can no longer be used for nefarious purposes or sold? Naturally not, as you have faith in the casino.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: slapper on September 22, 2023, 06:15:07 AM

Don't take our gambling experience too much complicated.

Referring to KYC specifically, if you find that requirement uncomfortable then stay away from it. Read the site terms if KYC is mandatory or will be subject as a requirement in the future, in special cases not mentioned in the Terms and Service.

For me, regardless if online fiat casino or crypto, I already accepted that KYC is already part of my gambling experience.

I don't have a problem complying to it "only" if necessary to do so.
Especially now that strict rules are in place, the gambling industry is not for the faint of heart. KYC processes are becoming more and more common, not just in casinos but in the financial world as a whole. It's an attempt to stop money laundering and make sure everything is clear. If you like to gamble, it's very important that you know these rules

However, I also agree with you that you should avoid a platform if its KYC procedures make you uncomfortable. Before committing to a casino, make sure you know as much as you can about it and how it works. It's admirable that you take a practical approach to KYC in both fiat and cryptocurrency casinos. Such a stance ensures compliance and reduces future issues. Congratulations on your gambling knowledge and skill


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Japinat on September 22, 2023, 07:30:30 AM
The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.
It's not possible to get a clear statistics on if people actually prefer KYC required casino over no KYC required casino, personally I have no problem with kyc required casino platform or no KYC. But there are factors that should be considered before choosing.

Anonymity: many Crypto-currency enthusiast are strong on having their identity secured and protected so they would tilt towards the no KYC required exchange but if the security of their identity can be assured then I see no problem with undergoing KYC requirements.
I think it's the responsibility of a casino to comply with secrecy laws, much like banks have their 'bank secrecy laws' that penalize them if they leak their clients' personal records. Sensitive information should only be transferred between government agencies, and all of them are governed by such laws as well.


The individuals: some individuals can have criminal history and would definitely not go for KYC required process.
Obviously, they would stay away from casinos that require KYC verification, as that would put them at risk of getting easily caught.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Salahmu on September 22, 2023, 09:05:01 AM
One of the factors that most be considered before enabling kyc verification process is the security so the question is how secure is the casino that all the users information will be kept on a secure database because one of the things I realize is that most people are not against casino that enable kyc verification but what they're actually afraid is there data security to avoid unauthorized access to there information and using there data for criminal activity, I like casinos that enables kyc but most times I use to be scared uploading my data for kyc but I make sure is a reputable casino before I can feel free uploading my data.

But with the use of kyc verification in casino it enables them to scare away people with bad intentions to the casino were as they cannot upload any of there data and as such there activities on that casino will be limited if not completely eradicated.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Webetcoins on September 22, 2023, 09:14:45 AM

Don't take our gambling experience too much complicated.

Referring to KYC specifically, if you find that requirement uncomfortable then stay away from it. Read the site terms if KYC is mandatory or will be subject as a requirement in the future, in special cases not mentioned in the Terms and Service.

For me, regardless if online fiat casino or crypto, I already accepted that KYC is already part of my gambling experience.

I don't have a problem complying to it "only" if necessary to do so.
There will soon be a time when these people who are hesitant to comply with the KYC and AML rules will have no choice because there won't be any casino platforms that will allow players to gamble without completing their KYC verification and these people will have nowhere to go but will be compelled to complete their KYC verification at the platforms that they use without saying a word or talking about privacy or anonymity or blaming casinos for asking for KYC.

I always tell people to find a casino platform that they trust and do their KYC verification now so that they can gamble without any problems and will also not face any problems in the future when there will be no KYC-less platforms in the industry and they will have no other choice but to comply with it.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Z390 on September 22, 2023, 10:35:45 AM
Really? I've never seen a online casino with very stressful registration, they are all easy to go through until you have to pass KYC verification, which I don't think it's hard either, unless you provide bad or blurry pictures of your credentials.

The bad side of online casinos that allow people to gamble with no verification is lawmen going after their asses and getting their business fined, they will later have to ask you for KYC, I am not going to bet that point, No KYC casinos don't last long, and most of them are not even registered and regulated.

If you pass KYC it doesn't mean they will leak your identity to the world, do not be scared of passing KYC verification, they use this information to fight corruptions like money embezzlement and laundering, even illegal fundings can happen on a casino.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: bayu7adi on September 22, 2023, 11:29:57 AM
If you dislike it, then simply walk away. Dealing with casinos that implement KYC is as straightforward as that. Why impose excessive discomfort on oneself?

Furthermore, everyone has their own reasons for their gambling preferences. Most individuals may only wager small amounts when enjoying a casino experience without stringent KYC requirements.

When it comes to substantial sums of money, you might have a change of heart and be willing to undergo KYC. A minor example is when you win big and wish to make a withdrawal, but the primary condition is KYC. I'm confident you'd think twice about it.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: SamReomo on September 22, 2023, 11:42:11 AM
Undergoing KYC does not mean that our identity will be publicly broadcasted, that is the common misconception of those paranoid with their privacy.  Remember once the casino is licensed and regulated, whatever data they collect are bound by data privacy law and no one can easily get this data from them unless it is ordered by the court.

I have to disagree with you in this case because the Casinos and their owners can access the identity information of the users and they can do whatever they want with that information. I know that they don't publicly broadcast such information but still the shady casinos can do many things in the name of KYC. Those shady casinos can sell the users KYC data in order to earn some extra revenue by following gray hat hackers mindset. Laymen won't be able to get the data from those casinos but someone from government's side can get such data without much hassle, and that's why the Identity data isn't safe with even the trusted casinos. That's one of the reasons why people prefer Bitcoin because it provides complete privacy to user and it doesn't require any KYC information of the users, and there isn't going to be any interference from centralized authorities. The Bitcoin enthusiasts would always choose the casinos that don't really need someone's KYC information.

The government officials if I am not mistaken are not allowed to gamble even enter and stay on the gambling premises, at least in my country.

I agree with you but when someone is addicted to gambling or enjoys gambling then he/she will find a way to gamble. They most probably do it secretly because law doesn't allow them to gamble directly and that's why they will always choose the casinos that allow gambling with any KYC requirements. Because without KYC documents no one can guess who's gambling behind a computer.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Natalim on September 22, 2023, 12:01:32 PM
If you dislike it, then simply walk away. Dealing with casinos that implement KYC is as straightforward as that. Why impose excessive discomfort on oneself?

Furthermore, everyone has their own reasons for their gambling preferences. Most individuals may only wager small amounts when enjoying a casino experience without stringent KYC requirements.

When it comes to substantial sums of money, you might have a change of heart and be willing to undergo KYC. A minor example is when you win big and wish to make a withdrawal, but the primary condition is KYC. I'm confident you'd think twice about it.

Yeah, obviously, there's a reason why KYC is imposed. One good example is that they don't allow minors. With documents being required, a minor cannot falsify the information they provide if it does not match the documents, so it serves a good purpose. If we gamble on a non-KYC casino, anyone can gamble, and it will only result in more gambling addiction problems, as minors are usually more susceptible to gambling addiction.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Kakmakr on September 22, 2023, 06:27:18 PM
I think most casinos are using "no" KYC verification as a tool to attract lots of "new" users and it is not a long-term goal for them. They will start with zero requirements and then once they received a lot of gamblers, then they quickly change their requirements.

They need to "hook" you with something and they know the regulators are not bothered with smaller casinos. So they fund their bankroll with gamblers from countries than are banned by other casinos.... then the regulators notice them and they force them to request verification.  ::) ::)


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: ryzaadit on September 22, 2023, 06:32:35 PM
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Can be easy to be found on (T & C)

But people are never check, and just register based the banner promotion. Most of casino who are offering 80% (anonymous feature, or without KYC), on their term & condition there always have some term.

You can be request KYC for some case, they admited/provided to us still can play without KYC. But once, problem / check interntal by them (KYC show up) ~XD. Simple things about KYC, any cetralized-website who are required you to register (always be ready for kyc).


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: fullhdpixel on September 22, 2023, 08:04:30 PM
The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.
No way man. In almost all of the gambling threads here in the forum, I always read that many users are against with it but maybe you only made a mistake there? KYC is hassle and it invades our privacy. No wonder why a lot of us hates it.

I believe most Non-KYC casinos are unregulated but most of them are also centralized. I don't think it's easy for a Non-KYC casino operator to tell if how long they can stay like that but I think their growth can tell it. Maybe some operators can say that they will stay like that no matter what, and maybe that is truly possible like they can pay or bribe the regulators for their casino to be excluded on the KYC rule.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Sim_card on September 22, 2023, 08:29:00 PM
It is rare to see a non KYC casinos these dats because, the government have regulated them in other for them to be able to have statistics of how many people uses the casino daily and also for them to be able to look into the activities of the casino. The government will also collect tax from these casinos and that is why it is mandatory for many big casinos to ask for KYC. A KYC casino is safer when it comes to funds withdrawal because, they will make sure that they build a good reputation with their customers. A non KYC casino is not registered with the government and doesn't have a license of operation, this makes it easy for them to scam customers. I preder using the casinos that does KYC because it will be easy for you to have access to a big win.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on September 23, 2023, 09:42:43 AM
Undergoing KYC does not mean that our identity will be publicly broadcasted, that is the common misconception of those paranoid with their privacy.  Remember once the casino is licensed and regulated, whatever data they collect are bound by data privacy law and no one can easily get this data from them unless it is ordered by the court.

I have to disagree with you in this case because the Casinos and their owners can access the identity information of the users and they can do whatever they want with that information. I know that they don't publicly broadcast such information but still the shady casinos can do many things in the name of KYC. Those shady casinos can sell the users KYC data in order to earn some extra revenue by following gray hat hackers mindset. Laymen won't be able to get the data from those casinos but someone from government's side can get such data without much hassle, and that's why the Identity data isn't safe with even the trusted casinos. That's one of the reasons why people prefer Bitcoin because it provides complete privacy to user and it doesn't require any KYC information of the users, and there isn't going to be any interference from centralized authorities. The Bitcoin enthusiasts would always choose the casinos that don't really need someone's KYC information.



       -  Let's just state that when a casino has the data privacy of their clients who will play on their casino platform, they may actually do whatever they want with the information they have, even if they are under a government-regulated license. But don't allow the government do what you propose because it violates the rules and policies that they sought via regulation.

So, when compared to an unregulated casino, I can state that my casino with KYC is safer because it is better regulated. Because there is no claim in that situation due to the lack of a license, the no-kyc rules gambling platforms are generally used.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: coin-investor on September 23, 2023, 11:12:58 AM
Op, if I'm guessing correctly, you used Ai to generate your post. I couldn't get the exact write up, because the ai was design to generate different response to different users but I found something similar


You need to enhance or resize your evidence so we can check if OP is really posting articles generated by AI, when you accuse someone you have to be sure of your allegation it is unfair to anyone being accused prematurely.

Going back to OP's topic the cons outweigh the pros of casinos without KYC, they cannot exist and compete with top casinos in the industry because regulators will keep their eyes on how they do their business and there's a possibility of being shut and domain confiscated if authorities consider non-KYC casino as an entry point of money laundering.



Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Haunebu on September 23, 2023, 11:21:40 AM
The KYC debate continues to heat up. Coming to this topic, KYC enabled casinos are definitely way more in number and easier to trust when compared to no-KYC casinos, but no-KYC sites will always exist.

Why? Because there are plenty of gamblers out there who value privacy over everything else. They are willing to risk their money in order to stay anonymous basically.

They developed interest in the crypto world thanks to BTC and its anonymity factor.



Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Wapfika on September 23, 2023, 11:33:32 AM

Improved Access for Restricted Regions: Players from regions like Quatar, Brunei, Iran, Pakistan and others with strict gambling regulations and limited access to Casinos can Indulge in it without trace and will find no-KYC options more accessible and comforting.


This is not an advantage since casino clearly violating the law of that specific country regarding online gambling. It like enabling restricted citizens to bypass their law just because you give them a chance. Casino that doing this is committing a crime.

Also casino that offers this kind of feature only offers house game since 3rd party game providers has their terms and conditions that separate to the casino. This is the most unethical representation of casino without KYC benefits.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: slapper on September 23, 2023, 12:35:55 PM
It is rare to see a non KYC casinos these dats because, the government have regulated them in other for them to be able to have statistics of how many people uses the casino daily and also for them to be able to look into the activities of the casino. The government will also collect tax from these casinos and that is why it is mandatory for many big casinos to ask for KYC. A KYC casino is safer when it comes to funds withdrawal because, they will make sure that they build a good reputation with their customers. A non KYC casino is not registered with the government and doesn't have a license of operation, this makes it easy for them to scam customers. I preder using the casinos that does KYC because it will be easy for you to have access to a big win.

To put so much faith in the safety of KYC casinos just because the government keeps an eye on them. I remember hearing about Mark (honestly not really remember his name so I choose Mark), a businessman who used to do well. He was attracted to KYC casinos because he thought, "Hey, the government says they're safe, so they must be." Wrong. Mark had to deal with constant delays and, let's say, "technical issues" when he tried to get his big winnings. All of his papers had been "under review" for a long time. So, what's going on? Are casinos with KYC really better? In an ideal world, they might be. But the truth is often less clear. Sometimes, it's not about KYC or not KYC; it's about doing your study and not getting scammed from both casinos and hackers


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Solosanz on September 23, 2023, 12:52:10 PM
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To put so much faith in the safety of KYC casinos just because the government keeps an eye on them. I remember hearing about Mark (honestly not really remember his name so I choose Mark), a businessman who used to do well. He was attracted to KYC casinos because he thought, "Hey, the government says they're safe, so they must be." Wrong. Mark had to deal with constant delays and, let's say, "technical issues" when he tried to get his big winnings. All of his papers had been "under review" for a long time. So, what's going on? Are casinos with KYC really better? In an ideal world, they might be. But the truth is often less clear. Sometimes, it's not about KYC or not KYC; it's about doing your study and not getting scammed from both casinos and hackers
Correct, I'm pretty sure he's not a gambler, that's why he can think when the online casino has KYC rule and licensed, it will be safe. There are so many licensed casino turn scam and the license or government didn't even catch the casino's owner. Either casino has KYC rule or no KYC, it's still same because it depends on the casino's reputation and the owner.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: macson on September 23, 2023, 07:10:39 PM
the KYC procedure should not be seen as a coercion so it is important for every gambler to read the TOS first.  KYC is implemented for good purposes, usually to prevent fraud from occurring, i know that, but on some gambling sites quite often KYC becomes an obstacle for users to withdraw their money, therefore following KYC procedures or not must be done with full awareness and without intimidation from anyone.  anyone must know what he/she is doing, whether you like the KYC procedure or not is your choice and right as a human being.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 23, 2023, 07:13:27 PM
The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.

I do think that for a long-term of an online casino usage, investing you resources in a KYC casino is better than a no-KYC casino. If you plan on just gambling for short-term profits, then better if you focus on a no-KYC casino.

At the end of the day, if you want security, then choose a KYC casino due to the benefits they have. In addition, legal processes can also make it possible for you to sue them should you encounter any problem/issue that the casino blatantly disregard.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: maydna on September 23, 2023, 09:59:15 PM
the KYC procedure should not be seen as a coercion so it is important for every gambler to read the TOS first.  KYC is implemented for good purposes, usually to prevent fraud from occurring, i know that, but on some gambling sites quite often KYC becomes an obstacle for users to withdraw their money, therefore following KYC procedures or not must be done with full awareness and without intimidation from anyone.  anyone must know what he/she is doing, whether you like the KYC procedure or not is your choice and right as a human being.
That is why every gambler should be able to choose a casino that will not make it difficult for him when he wants to do KYC. When he chose the casino, he realized that later he would have to do KYC when he wanted to withdraw his money so that they would prepare it first. But there are still casinos that allow gamblers not to do KYC, and there are usually certain restrictions that gamblers must pay attention to in order not to do KYC. Gamblers will not be required to do KYC if they do not cross that threshold. So it will depend on the gamblers how they want to do KYC.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Hatchy on September 24, 2023, 02:23:42 AM
~Snip~

Tos, are usually put in place for everyuser to be aware of how the casino operates. If a users funds it difficult to read this before registering on any casino, they will have issues upfront when these casinos start bringing in some features that were never in their menu.

 The KYC for instances, may not actually be put in place at first, but after a while when these casinos discovers a need to implement the KYC their users might have no choice but to comply. As long as it was stated in their KYC before now that they have the right to implement new changes to their system


Some days ago, I came across a thread where a user couldn't withdraw all his funds from a specific casino, this was after he withdrew few but then he was required to do KYC to withdraw the rest. Now on completing this, he finds out that his country was blacklisted from KYC verification on the casino. From this, I would say he never bothered to check out the terms and conditions before using that casino, Because I have read some TOS and it's clearly listed there some countries that aren't allow to use them.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: piebeyb on September 24, 2023, 06:33:51 AM
I agree with the Non-KYC because this is the experience of the crypto becoming anonymous and being transparent. You don't need to get worried about your data we know how does people use the data of other people even though they say that "we protect your data." There's no safe on the internet right now the cons only I've seen here is the recovery of the account the assurance of the player for their accounts are lessen if their devices get comprise by other people the casino does not have the capability if there's no KYC for verification the real owner.  Having a level 1 KYC is enough for me im not a large gambler large withdrawal is not too much issue.
Every casino whether it supports KYC or Non-KYC, there are always good and bad things, it depends on how people want to choose, as you said, nothing is safe on the internet, so don't try to gamble if you don't want other people to know your identity because gambling at offline casinos may be free with that and anyone can go to do that, if there are no problems and want convenience of course online casinos are better than offline casinos.

Yes, it's true that Non-KYC might have shortcomings, such as recovering a hacked account or something like that, if without KYC it's a bit difficult to recognize the original account owner and I've experienced problems like that, actually it depends on the perspective of each party, I too There's never been a problem with KYC level 1 because as a small gambler I don't need to send my identity at KYC level 2 because I'm just a small gambler maybe just like you and so far I've never had problems with withdrawals.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Jating on September 24, 2023, 06:42:56 AM
I agree with the Non-KYC because this is the experience of the crypto becoming anonymous and being transparent. You don't need to get worried about your data we know how does people use the data of other people even though they say that "we protect your data." There's no safe on the internet right now the cons only I've seen here is the recovery of the account the assurance of the player for their accounts are lessen if their devices get comprise by other people the casino does not have the capability if there's no KYC for verification the real owner.  Having a level 1 KYC is enough for me im not a large gambler large withdrawal is not too much issue.

Right, every casino is asking for KYC right now, although there could be some that doesn't require specially if you are just withdrawing small amounts. But if you are a whale and big bettor, I will assume that they will have to asked KYC at least level 1 for the casino to get to know you.

Of course, you have every right not to pass if you don't feel like to. But you have to move on and look for other casinos that might or might not ask you to go to KYC process. Just be careful though, we might need to read the ToS first before enrolling to a new casinos.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: MoonbetEcosystem on September 24, 2023, 09:20:57 AM
If you are looking for a trustworthy and established casino/sportsbook that does not require KYC for players to register OR withdraw, then head to Moonbet.io

We launched in September 2021 and have great reviews on TrustPilot from players in the last two years. Yes, we operate a licensed casino but we use a web3 wallet connection via MetaMask or WalletConnect for a seamless player experience.

KYC is often a requirement from regulators to comply with anti-money laundering initiatives. We use a variety of other factors to combat AML, meaning that we can offer a web3 betting experience that is fair and trustworthy for players!


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: darkangel11 on September 24, 2023, 10:27:35 AM
The benefits of using KYC (Know Your Customer) casinos include:
Limiting fraudulent activities: It aids in the prevention of money laundering and other numerous cyber and financial crimes by verifying the source of funds of the players Involved.

Are we talking about benefits for the player or for the government? This is clearly a benefit for the government, not the player.
Why should I care if a procedure that puts me at risk and is by far the most inconvenient of any procedures regarding online shopping or gaming, is beneficial to a third party (government)?
The name isn't even right for this, since are talking about crypto casinos, so it's not money laundering but crypto laundering. The process of money laundering takes place at exchanges. Depositing stolen cryptocurrency to a casino is more of a mixing process than laundering.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: mirakal on September 24, 2023, 11:55:48 AM
The people have already made their choice, and it's clear they prefer a KYC casino over a non-KYC casino. I believe it's more appropriate to refer to it as 'decentralized gambling' because some casinos claim to be non-KYC but are still regulated. It's important to question the longevity of such claims. When a casino is regulated, it's obligated to adhere to the implementing rules set by regulators, including KYC compliance. So, it's wise not to trust those that claim to be non-KYC casinos.
Exactly. Those who claimed as non-KYC casinos are most of the time only here to deceive us with its name, but in reality they are still regulated and should follow the rules of those who regulate them. So if you want to play on casinos safely and securely, just chose those who are clearly regulated casinos. Even if KYC is compulsory, but it’s only for our own security and to avoid cases of fraudulence on part of the casinos.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on September 24, 2023, 12:52:42 PM
I agree with the Non-KYC because this is the experience of the crypto becoming anonymous and being transparent. You don't need to get worried about your data we know how does people use the data of other people even though they say that "we protect your data." There's no safe on the internet right now the cons only I've seen here is the recovery of the account the assurance of the player for their accounts are lessen if their devices get comprise by other people the casino does not have the capability if there's no KYC for verification the real owner.  Having a level 1 KYC is enough for me im not a large gambler large withdrawal is not too much issue.

        -   Because I rarely gamble every month—about two to three times, occasionally even twice—we are the same mate. That's exactly how I play; I make the most of my gambling since it's only for fun. Then I thought back to the BC games. I don't believe I can recall ever winning at slots for more than $40, but I had no trouble cashing out.

I was not prompted to provide any information by the bcgames, and the winnings I withdrew were transferred after 30 or so minutes. The casinos I played at did not want a KYC from me, which is fair to say is okay.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Outhue on September 24, 2023, 01:03:50 PM
The only fact that everyone needs to know about No KYC casinos is they are probably into illegal activities like frauds and money laundering.

Normal every good online casinos is to be registered, to avoid money laundering and crime activities through the platform, a new casino can start as a no kyc platform but they will eventually start asking for KYC, unless the team have some plans to stay out of the law radar but such online casinos are not good for customers.

You can become a victim of fraud easily to no kyc casinos because they mostly are not operating under the law, they are not regulated or pass any legal source to start running the business, the earlier you know the better.

If the no kyc casino is a good one, they will one day start to ask for KYC, that day will come as they will want to grow bigger in the future too, expand their business, and that's how they will have to go by the book and do the necessary things to stay in business.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Ziskinberg on September 24, 2023, 01:18:28 PM
The only fact that everyone needs to know about No KYC casinos is they are probably into illegal activities like frauds and money laundering.

You can't trust them, as no KYC casino can be easily presumed to be unregistered as well. So, whatever their dealings, it's already up to them, and once we gamble on their sites, there's no assurance that we will be safe all the time. They are like a non-regulated exchange that may exit scam once they have earned a lot of money, including deposits from their clients.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: aioc on September 24, 2023, 01:25:00 PM


However, it's important to note that no-KYC casinos may also have some drawbacks, such as limited regulatory involvements to excesses and
very less customer support. Additionally, they may not be as reputable and reliable as licensed and regulated casinos, you stand a chance of incurring great loss of your funds and assets, so it's crucial to exercise caution and do thorough research before patronizing them.


The drawback as you mentioned here and I quoted makes it not worth playing in casinos with no KYC casino, this is the reason why no KYC is unpopular in the gambling community, they do not want to support a platform where there is a possibility of being used by money launderers.

When there is a platform that deals with money like online casinos money launderers and scammers will use this to launder their dirty money so it is better to pick a regulated platform for the protection of your funds and identification.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Taskford on September 24, 2023, 02:06:02 PM



However, it's important to note that no-KYC casinos may also have some drawbacks, such as limited regulatory involvements to excesses and
very less customer support. Additionally, they may not be as reputable and reliable as licensed and regulated casinos, you stand a chance of incurring great loss of your funds and assets, so it's crucial to exercise caution and do thorough research before patronizing them.


The drawback as you mentioned here and I quoted makes it not worth playing in casinos with no KYC casino, this is the reason why no KYC is unpopular in the gambling community, they do not want to support a platform where there is a possibility of being used by money launderers.


We are dealing with no KYC submissions before on popular casinos here, but everything change when regulation on certain jurisdiction happen that's the reason why those reputable casino required this to their gamblers.

Nowadays this requirements has been normalize that's why many got suspicious about claiming that they are non-KYC compliant platform since many know that in future this casino will ask this requirement since this is what other casino do and they cannot do anything with regulation since they became illegal if they will not follow what regulators ask them to do.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Webetcoins on September 24, 2023, 02:44:03 PM
If you are looking for a trustworthy and established casino/sportsbook that does not require KYC for players to register OR withdraw, then head to Moonbet.io

We launched in September 2021 and have great reviews on TrustPilot from players in the last two years. Yes, we operate a licensed casino but we use a web3 wallet connection via MetaMask or WalletConnect for a seamless player experience.

KYC is often a requirement from regulators to comply with anti-money laundering initiatives. We use a variety of other factors to combat AML, meaning that we can offer a web3 betting experience that is fair and trustworthy for players!
This is the first time I've heard about a licensed decentralized platform since most of the platforms that acquire a license are usually centralized because authorities would want you to comply with AML and KYC rules and for that, you need to collect KYC information from your players, but if you are not complying with that, the authorities will barely let you operate for very long, and I'm also confused about how the licensing firms can provide a license for a decentralized platform.

And talking about reviews, we don't really trust reviews given on TrustPilot since that is the most rigged review website there could be, anyone can create a bunch of accounts and either post positive or negative reviews about a website or service and that will eventually affect the overall trust rate of the site.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: coin-investor on September 24, 2023, 02:51:35 PM
Those who claimed as non-KYC casinos are most of the time only here to deceive us with its name, but in reality they are still regulated and should follow the rules of those who regulate them. So if you want to play on casinos safely and securely, just chose those who are clearly regulated casinos. Even if KYC is compulsory, but it’s only for our own security and to avoid cases of fraudulence on part of the casinos.

They just want to get more players, because there are still a lot of players who are attracted to non-KYC, and they are not well informed about the many risks of non-KYC, but these non-KYC casinos will eventually change their terms because if they want to remain in this business they will have to become compliant and part of being compliant is asking KYC to all their players.

When it is a choice between a platform with KYC and without non-KYC we have to choose where we are the safest and that's a platform that is compliant.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: avp2306 on September 24, 2023, 04:29:34 PM



However, it's important to note that no-KYC casinos may also have some drawbacks, such as limited regulatory involvements to excesses and
very less customer support. Additionally, they may not be as reputable and reliable as licensed and regulated casinos, you stand a chance of incurring great loss of your funds and assets, so it's crucial to exercise caution and do thorough research before patronizing them.


The drawback as you mentioned here and I quoted makes it not worth playing in casinos with no KYC casino, this is the reason why no KYC is unpopular in the gambling community, they do not want to support a platform where there is a possibility of being used by money launderers.


We are dealing with no KYC submissions before on popular casinos here, but everything change when regulation on certain jurisdiction happen that's the reason why those reputable casino required this to their gamblers.

Nowadays this requirements has been normalize that's why many got suspicious about claiming that they are non-KYC compliant platform since many know that in future this casino will ask this requirement since this is what other casino do and they cannot do anything with regulation since they became illegal if they will not follow what regulators ask them to do.

The problem is some casino use the none KYC casino word that's why there are people think that they are safe here because this casino doesn't require them a lot of requirements.

They didn't realize that its just a click bait and this casinos want them to believe that they really are but end up fooling them when withdrawal request is happening since this is where the problem start and this casino know request a KYC to them. Common practice happening by many casino which we need to take seriously and we need to be more careful with them.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: 3kpk3 on September 24, 2023, 05:26:51 PM
When it is a choice between a platform with KYC and without non-KYC we have to choose where we are the safest and that's a platform that is compliant.
A regulated casino is definitely more safer when compared to an unregulated casino, but this doesn't imply that they are 100% safe or anything. They could get hacked or could execute a rug pull(Eg: Betnomi).

This is why you shouldn't trust any casino with all of your funds and only keep what you are willing to lose.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Agbe on September 24, 2023, 05:40:00 PM
If you are looking for a trustworthy and established casino/sportsbook that does not require KYC for players to register OR withdraw, then head to Moonbet.io

We launched in September 2021 and have great reviews on TrustPilot from players in the last two years. Yes, we operate a licensed casino but we use a web3 wallet connection via MetaMask or WalletConnect for a seamless player experience.

KYC is often a requirement from regulators to comply with anti-money laundering initiatives. We use a variety of other factors to combat AML, meaning that we can offer a web3 betting experience that is fair and trustworthy for players!
The moonbet casino website is not opening in my end so I checked the rating in https://www.trustpilot.com/review/moonbet.io and I discovered that the reviews are good. At first I thought it sponsored reviews but almost all the comments there are positive and no negative feedback on the casino. I don't know if you have ANN thread and if you don't have I advise you to do that and also make the casino website light to navigate into, because the way I see the site it is too heavy with load so it is not easily opening. I really like to see the site.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Saint-loup on September 24, 2023, 06:33:50 PM
They just want to get more players, because there are still a lot of players who are attracted to non-KYC, and they are not well informed about the many risks of non-KYC, but these non-KYC casinos will eventually change their terms because if they want to remain in this business they will have to become compliant and part of being compliant is asking KYC to all their players.

When it is a choice between a platform with KYC and without non-KYC we have to choose where we are the safest and that's a platform that is compliant.
Changing their terms doesn't mean applying them. Binance for example had to change its official policies in order to avoid being banned and prosecuted in United States and in some other countries but leaks have shown they were mainly circumventing them in reality. So if casinos want to respect the privacy and the safety of their customers, they will never ask KYC to their customers even if their ToS are mentioning it. Moreover fulfilling an initial KYC doesn't protect customers, because casinos will always be able to ask additional documents and an higher KYC level if they are dishonest.  


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: khaled0111 on September 24, 2023, 11:21:10 PM
The problem is some casino use the none KYC casino word that's why there are people think that they are safe here because this casino doesn't require them a lot of requirements.
Why would anyone think that a casino is safe and trusted just because they don't ask their customers to verify their identity? Sure, it's a plus especially for those who value their privacy but it has nothing to do with safety or trustworthiness.
Besides, personally I don't believe anyone who claims that his casino never ask for kyc be it licensed or not. I witnessed many of those claims and after a while some of their customers start complaining about being requested to verify their identities. Sure, some of them are more lenient than the others but not to the extent to say they will never do it.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: cryptolists on September 25, 2023, 09:16:56 AM
Always be careful with no KYC casinos from Curacao. They are required to do KYC after a total of 2k deposit. So it might look good from the beginning with license and all.
For those anonymous casinos that doesn't require any KYC, it's important to check up the owners. Are they legitimate? What have they done before? There are only around 20 serious crypto casinos without any KYC requirement according to my research the last 12 months.


KYC or no KYC what casinos are after is their profit. Have you ever wondered why some casinos would start as a KYC free casino and after a while when members have deposited their funds and have started playing games and winning and when it is due withdrawal they tell them to do KYC and if the gambler refuses, they block or ban them permanently from accessing their account. In some cases if the KYC details are suspected to be from nations that have restrictions on gambling, they take advantage of it to penalise the gambler by suspending their account while in some cases they take the assets of the gambler.

One of the major challenges of KYC I think is the issue of privacy. When ones privacy is compromised, their is every possibility that their details would be used against or possibly do some shady that they have no knowledge about. It is a personal choice to go for a KYC or KYC free casino.




Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: piebeyb on September 25, 2023, 09:46:38 AM
When it is a choice between a platform with KYC and without non-KYC we have to choose where we are the safest and that's a platform that is compliant.
A regulated casino is definitely more safer when compared to an unregulated casino, but this doesn't imply that they are 100% safe or anything. They could get hacked or could execute a rug pull(Eg: Betnomi).

This is why you shouldn't trust any casino with all of your funds and only keep what you are willing to lose.
Yes you are right that both sites that have regulations or not all of them are the same, it will never be safe because the Betnomi case has taught us to remain vigilant so that there are no more cases of casinos being hacked or bankrupt and disappear like betnomy, because if the site disappears it is not only detrimental We are through lost funds but also our identity KYC that we have entrusted entirely to them and finally it can be used wrongly.

Luckily I was only a little gambler so I didn't think too much about the KYC problem, playing in a large and trusted casino in this forum I was still vigilant to give my complete KYC identity to the casino, but enough KYC level 1 I was able to withdraw withdrawals without having to complete the KYC Level 2 or 3, the point is that during being a small gambler and betting with small bets everything becomes safe. Even so do not save too much money in the casino because it is a very important lesson to avoid problems such as Betnomi cases.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Jating on September 25, 2023, 10:14:58 AM
The problem is some casino use the none KYC casino word that's why there are people think that they are safe here because this casino doesn't require them a lot of requirements.
Why would anyone think that a casino is safe and trusted just because they don't ask their customers to verify their identity? Sure, it's a plus especially for those who value their privacy but it has nothing to do with safety or trustworthiness.
Besides, personally I don't believe anyone who claims that his casino never ask for kyc be it licensed or not. I witnessed many of those claims and after a while some of their customers start complaining about being requested to verify their identities. Sure, some of them are more lenient than the others but not to the extent to say they will never do it.

Or maybe this kind of casinos are taking advantage of the gamblers, who thought that they are safe with no KYC and then continue to deposit and play. It's good for the casino if they continue to lose in the long run.

But once this gamblers won and won big, then it's that time when suddenly might suddenly ask for KYC because of their big win and so the gamblers are going to be frustrated by it because they thought its a no-KYC.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: 3kpk3 on September 25, 2023, 03:32:13 PM
Luckily I was only a little gambler so I didn't think too much about the KYC problem, playing in a large and trusted casino in this forum I was still vigilant to give my complete KYC identity to the casino, but enough KYC level 1 I was able to withdraw withdrawals without having to complete the KYC Level 2 or 3, the point is that during being a small gambler and betting with small bets everything becomes safe. Even so do not save too much money in the casino because it is a very important lesson to avoid problems such as Betnomi cases.
Great thinking. I only submit KYC level-1 whenever I feel it's necessary too and never submit higher level KYC unless it's related to huge amounts or something. This is another useful tip if you ask me.

Gamblers should think carefully before submitting higher level KYC in any site(New or Reputed).


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Awaklara on September 25, 2023, 03:53:11 PM
Luckily I was only a little gambler so I didn't think too much about the KYC problem, playing in a large and trusted casino in this forum I was still vigilant to give my complete KYC identity to the casino, but enough KYC level 1 I was able to withdraw withdrawals without having to complete the KYC Level 2 or 3, the point is that during being a small gambler and betting with small bets everything becomes safe. Even so do not save too much money in the casino because it is a very important lesson to avoid problems such as Betnomi cases.
Great thinking. I only submit KYC level-1 whenever I feel it's necessary too and never submit higher level KYC unless it's related to huge amounts or something. This is another useful tip if you ask me.

Gamblers should think carefully before submitting higher level KYC in any site(New or Reputed).
because if they feel that KYC level 1 or low is enough to make them comfortable playing, it won't be a problem. in a sense, it does not affect some features such as larger withdrawals or when the account has certain problems to be recovered and the casino does require asking for more complete KYC documents.
but as long as KYC level 1 is enough for us to access the game and make withdrawals, that's quite fun. we don't need to send more personal details to anyone.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: kingvirtus09 on September 25, 2023, 04:20:42 PM
I believe that playing at no-kyc casinos is still a solid option as long as it has a lengthy track record of success in the crypto industry. As far as I know, the same as BC Games, Live Casino, and others.

Furthermore, if there is a problem or issue, there are difficulties and issues with casinos that have KYC and casinos that do not have KYC, as I have seen and observed on this thread. accordance to the issue they are discussing. The only thing that matters is that you play gambling where you feel comfortable and confident.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Lanatsa on September 25, 2023, 07:57:21 PM
I believe that playing at no-kyc casinos is still a solid option as long as it has a lengthy track record of success in the crypto industry. As far as I know, the same as BC Games, Live Casino, and others.

Furthermore, if there is a problem or issue, there are difficulties and issues with casinos that have KYC and casinos that do not have KYC, as I have seen and observed on this thread. accordance to the issue they are discussing. The only thing that matters is that you play gambling where you feel comfortable and confident.

There are really still those long time running platforms or casinos that been really that still operating even up to this day without having that integration about KYC compliance into its users on which they are really that

sticking in the real essence of crypto gambling but still they are really that requiring some kyc verification once you do able to violate something specially on their TOS on which i would or could say that
it is really just that normal on having those despite on having no license or not being regulated. We know that there are really abusers or those people who do violate as long they could really be able
to take some advantage on which this is something that could really happen.

If you dont like on having yourself put up on a situation on which you could really be able to have some headaches then always better and wise
for you to be able to stick with those reputable and long time running ones but of course dont get shockled if ever terms are really that changed up over time.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: BenCodie on September 25, 2023, 09:33:30 PM
Those who claimed as non-KYC casinos are most of the time only here to deceive us with its name, but in reality they are still regulated and should follow the rules of those who regulate them. So if you want to play on casinos safely and securely, just chose those who are clearly regulated casinos. Even if KYC is compulsory, but it’s only for our own security and to avoid cases of fraudulence on part of the casinos.

They just want to get more players, because there are still a lot of players who are attracted to non-KYC, and they are not well informed about the many risks of non-KYC, but these non-KYC casinos will eventually change their terms because if they want to remain in this business they will have to become compliant and part of being compliant is asking KYC to all their players.

When it is a choice between a platform with KYC and without non-KYC we have to choose where we are the safest and that's a platform that is compliant.

Non-KYC gets more players because there will always be people who want to use the bitcoin/cryptocurrency ecosystem without compromising their privacy by attaching their identifying/personal information to casinos.

The only fact that everyone needs to know about No KYC casinos is they are probably into illegal activities like frauds and money laundering.

You can't trust them, as no KYC casino can be easily presumed to be unregistered as well. So, whatever their dealings, it's already up to them, and once we gamble on their sites, there's no assurance that we will be safe all the time. They are like a non-regulated exchange that may exit scam once they have earned a lot of money, including deposits from their clients.

There are risks with both. Regulated casinos can use tactics that utilize their privileges to scam their users, and get away with it because of their "licensing". Unregulated ones have the ability to do what they like similarly, though they have a reputation to maintain if the want to stay in the business. It's about what's the greater of two evils. It's better off just choosing neither and opt for decentralized gaming.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Stedsm on September 25, 2023, 09:45:10 PM
Having our KYC done on any casino is dangerous only when our country has restricted gambling there and that's where the no-KYC casinos come into action and help us out to safely play there without the fear of getting our data leaked to our government and then we may even get jailed as if we committed some crime. It's ridiculous to see that despite being a business, gambling industry is demanded a 30% tax (and even more in some countries) by the governments (especially if I talk about my government, if you just deposited on a casino, no matter if you win or lose, you need to pay 30% tax on your entire capital, be it the deposit only or the winnings too which is a shameful act by the government of my country).


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Ojima-ojo on September 25, 2023, 11:15:17 PM
If you come from countries where there is high gambling regulations then you will know that sone of the gamblers only think about the legitimacy of the casino and nothing more, because even if they like KYC or not, at that point they have no other options than to comply with the KYC demands or you choses to olay within the stipulated threshold.


So at this point the fambler have to make delibrate attempt to mentian a level of baseline that can help hold their firmness in the gambling space, so for that i am not for or against KYC compliance but to some extend, we dont have anything to hides from the government if ever their come knocking.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: makishart on September 25, 2023, 11:34:53 PM
Always be careful with no KYC casinos from Curacao. They are required to do KYC after a total of 2k deposit. So it might look good from the beginning with license and all.
For those anonymous casinos that doesn't require any KYC, it's important to check up the owners. Are they legitimate? What have they done before? There are only around 20 serious crypto casinos without any KYC requirement according to my research the last 12 months.


KYC or no KYC what casinos are after is their profit. Have you ever wondered why some casinos would start as a KYC free casino and after a while when members have deposited their funds and have started playing games and winning and when it is due withdrawal they tell them to do KYC and if the gambler refuses, they block or ban them permanently from accessing their account. In some cases if the KYC details are suspected to be from nations that have restrictions on gambling, they take advantage of it to penalise the gambler by suspending their account while in some cases they take the assets of the gambler.

One of the major challenges of KYC I think is the issue of privacy. When ones privacy is compromised, their is every possibility that their details would be used against or possibly do some shady that they have no knowledge about. It is a personal choice to go for a KYC or KYC free casino.




How can you checkup the owner of anonymous casino? I remind you that if it was anonymous casino and the owner might not publish his identity. Curacao has become the easiest place in getting license to run gambling business but there have been also many illegal casinos there.
The only problem if we don't know which was legit or scam casino. Forcing users to complete know your customer verification after use has deposited some money were red flags. I remember some places which was allowing deposit from their banning countries but they were not allowing them to withdraw their money due to the geo restriction problem.

It looks so weird but it's exist. It's very difficult to know whether that's a scam site.



If you are looking for a trustworthy and established casino/sportsbook that does not require KYC for players to register OR withdraw, then head to Moonbet.io

We launched in September 2021 and have great reviews on TrustPilot from players in the last two years. Yes, we operate a licensed casino but we use a web3 wallet connection via MetaMask or WalletConnect for a seamless player experience.

KYC is often a requirement from regulators to comply with anti-money laundering initiatives. We use a variety of other factors to combat AML, meaning that we can offer a web3 betting experience that is fair and trustworthy for players!

The casino owner can't push regulator otherwise regulator is the one who is always pushing casino owner to fulfill their requirements. Operaing without license is also putting the users into the risk caused by regulators can seize the site anytime if the owner of illegal casino was doing shady things.
Almost all of popular casino were fully licensed. I never saw unlicensed casino became so popular among the bettors.
 


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: dothebeats on September 25, 2023, 11:50:43 PM
I believe that playing at no-kyc casinos is still a solid option as long as it has a lengthy track record of success in the crypto industry. As far as I know, the same as BC Games, Live Casino, and others.

Furthermore, if there is a problem or issue, there are difficulties and issues with casinos that have KYC and casinos that do not have KYC, as I have seen and observed on this thread. accordance to the issue they are discussing. The only thing that matters is that you play gambling where you feel comfortable and confident.


There will come a time wherein you'll need to provide KYC with these platforms. It's just that they offer you to sign up with the platform, use it for a couple weeks/months, before they trigger the KYC process to not limit your account. I'd be okay if they went upfront with it and say that they are not 100% KYC free, but they mask everything in their adverts that they are not asking for any documents at all, which is kinda misleading especially to those who are looking for casinos without KYC because of their past experience with KYC casinos.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: danherbias07 on September 26, 2023, 05:08:49 AM
There are other benefits when you apply KYC to your account. Bonuses! Better promotions and more.
What you shared was given on why a gambler would accept the KYC, it's the security and avoid their funds being locked if something crazy happens. Like winning a big multi that would change your life. There's a money-laundering act so businesses like gambling platforms will abide by the rules of how much a gambler could get out without his information. It's not different with exchanges/local exchanges, they are just offering a bit of money that can be deposited and withdrawn, or else the company owner will have to answer some questions.
I don't really mind this, especially in a reputable casino because it will be their name that will be on the line if information about their gamblers leaks out.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: piebeyb on September 26, 2023, 10:11:42 AM
I believe that playing at no-kyc casinos is still a solid option as long as it has a lengthy track record of success in the crypto industry. As far as I know, the same as BC Games, Live Casino, and others.

Furthermore, if there is a problem or issue, there are difficulties and issues with casinos that have KYC and casinos that do not have KYC, as I have seen and observed on this thread. accordance to the issue they are discussing. The only thing that matters is that you play gambling where you feel comfortable and confident.

Everyone has their own comfort so both KYC and No KYC casinos have their advantages and disadvantages so of course there are differences in the views of each gambler and also different experiences, so far I have never had problems with KYC casinos and you are also happier with No-KYC casinos maybe you can better maintain your privacy there and play anonymously.

I play with KYC because I'm a small gambler so it's enough to complete KYC level 1 by filling in information data so I don't send selfies and complete identity, so far I still feel comfortable playing at large licensed casinos but only completing KYC level 1 for me is not a problem as long as You can still make withdrawals and fill in information data only. but what you say is true, it all comes back to the convenience of each gambler.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: DanMeyer on November 14, 2023, 02:15:50 PM
While knowing that KYC in Online Casinos is a highly controversial topic, the whole matter of fraud seems to get out of control. Stating the obvious but the damage of fraud will seriously impact legit online casinos and players alike.

"According to TransUnion’s 2022 Report, digital fraud in the global gaming market rose nearly 33% in one year, with identity theft, credit card fraud, and account takeover fraud being the main consumer concerns. In another Ravelin report (2022) 71% of online gambling operators reported an increase in promotion abuse, and 67% of merchants reported a rise in payment details taken from customer accounts." https://www.idnow.io/blog/importance-of-kyc-in-online-casinos/


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: davissgurban on November 29, 2023, 05:07:05 PM
While knowing that KYC in Online Casinos is a highly controversial topic, the whole matter of fraud seems to get out of control. Stating the obvious but the damage of fraud will seriously impact legit online casinos and players alike.

"According to TransUnion’s 2022 Report, digital fraud in the global gaming market rose nearly 33% in one year, with identity theft, credit card fraud, and account takeover fraud being the main consumer concerns. In another Ravelin report (2022) 71% of online gambling operators reported an increase in promotion abuse, and 67% of merchants reported a rise in payment details taken from customer accounts." https://www.idnow.io/blog/importance-of-kyc-in-online-casinos/
Fraud in online casinos is a concerning issue impacting both players and legitimate platforms. It's crucial to address these challenges collaboratively to ensure a safer and more enjoyable gaming experience for everyone involved.


Title: Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know)
Post by: Unbunplease on November 29, 2023, 05:22:54 PM
Everyone has their own comfort so both KYC and No KYC casinos have their advantages and disadvantages so of course there are differences in the views of each gambler and also different experiences, so far I have never had problems with KYC casinos and you are also happier with No-KYC casinos maybe you can better maintain your privacy there and play anonymously.

I play with KYC because I'm a small gambler so it's enough to complete KYC level 1 by filling in information data so I don't send selfies and complete identity, so far I still feel comfortable playing at large licensed casinos but only completing KYC level 1 for me is not a problem as long as You can still make withdrawals and fill in information data only. but what you say is true, it all comes back to the convenience of each gambler.

Personally, I don't think kyc protects against anything, or gives any guarantees. There is always a chance of personal data leaking and being used for dishonest purposes. And there is always a chance of your account being blocked for any reason, regardless of kyc status.