Title: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Alik Bahshi on September 19, 2023, 03:37:50 PM Alik Bakhshi
Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh In connection with the decision made on the final liquidation of the illegal military regime in Karabakh, Azerbaijan sent a message to the population of Karabakh, warning about the introduction of the army in order to eliminate terrorist gangs illegally located on Azerbaijani territory and restore the constitutional order there. This decision is fully consistent with UN resolutions on the territorial integrity of the state of Azerbaijan within internationally recognized borders. At the time of the introduction of troops, the Azerbaijani government recommends that the civilian population of Karabakh stay in their homes, do not have weapons, do not wear army uniforms, do not obey the orders of the military junta and stay away from military equipment and all administrative buildings where the illegal regime operates. After winning the 44-day war, the Armenian nationalists who seized power in Karabakh did not lay down their arms and continued to terrorize the population of Azerbaijan, violating the peace agreement and preventing the return of refugees. Naturally, this situation could not suit the Azerbaijani authorities, which ultimately led to this decision to put an end to the nest of terrorists entrenched in Karabakh. 19.09.2023 Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: WillyAp on September 19, 2023, 03:49:57 PM I'm pretty sure there is another side of that story.
Is the guardian independent enough: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/19/why-is-there-armenia-azerbaijan-dispute-over-control-of-nagorno-karabakh Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: LTU_btc on September 20, 2023, 07:27:17 PM So, it seems that cease-fire agreement was reached today and Azerbaijan claims that they have completed anti-terrorist operation.
Without going deep into historical context, Karabakh is legitimate territory of Azerbaijan, recognized internationally. And we can see that CSTO is such pointless organisation. Russia had few thousands peacekeepers in region, but they didn't played any role in this conflict. Seems that Russia is loosing influence in region. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Kavelj22 on September 20, 2023, 09:28:17 PM I'm pretty sure there is another side of that story. Certainly there is another side to the story, which is the real side when we want to analyze the facts. The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan has become known who stands behind it and who supports it, and if Karabakh were not the subject of the conflict currently, another problem would have arisen just to inflame the conflict between the two parties. Azerbaijan is mainly supported by Turkey, which fundamentally rejects the establishment of an Armenian authority in the region, and today Azerbaijan has more support from Western powers in challenge to Russian influence, since Armenia is supported by the Kremlin. In short, the conflict in Karabakh is another front in a proxy war between the major global poles. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Alik Bahshi on September 21, 2023, 02:05:34 AM I'm pretty sure there is another side of that story. Certainly there is another side to the story, which is the real side when we want to analyze the facts. The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan has become known who stands behind it and who supports it, and if Karabakh were not the subject of the conflict currently, another problem would have arisen just to inflame the conflict between the two parties. Azerbaijan is mainly supported by Turkey, which fundamentally rejects the establishment of an Armenian authority in the region, and today Azerbaijan has more support from Western powers in challenge to Russian influence, since Armenia is supported by the Kremlin. In short, the conflict in Karabakh is another front in a proxy war between the major global poles. Alas, it is a big mistake for an amateur to look for a black cat in a dark room. This conflict has deep historical roots. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Kavelj22 on September 21, 2023, 03:48:19 PM I'm pretty sure there is another side of that story. Certainly there is another side to the story, which is the real side when we want to analyze the facts. The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan has become known who stands behind it and who supports it, and if Karabakh were not the subject of the conflict currently, another problem would have arisen just to inflame the conflict between the two parties. Azerbaijan is mainly supported by Turkey, which fundamentally rejects the establishment of an Armenian authority in the region, and today Azerbaijan has more support from Western powers in challenge to Russian influence, since Armenia is supported by the Kremlin. In short, the conflict in Karabakh is another front in a proxy war between the major global poles. Alas, it is a big mistake for an amateur to look for a black cat in a dark room. This conflict has deep historical roots. The Karabakh region, with its Armenian majority, is located entirely within Azerbaijani territory and has gone through several historical stages, ranging from international recognition of its affiliation to Armenia to obtaining autonomy in the nineties after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It is important to point out that both countries, Armenia and Azerbaijan, were affiliated with the Soviet Union, and the conflict between them took place in the presence of the Soviet Union. What has complicated the situation recently is Russia's decision to establish a transit corridor to Azerbaijan that passes through Armenian territory, at the same time that Iran moved military forces towards the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. The complexities of geography, the legacies of history, and fears of the outbreak of a new war are factors that interfere with the impact of the renewed conflict in Karabakh after Azerbaijan’s decision to intervene militarily in the region, explaining that it did not find an alternative. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Alik Bahshi on September 22, 2023, 04:19:30 AM I'm pretty sure there is another side of that story. Certainly there is another side to the story, which is the real side when we want to analyze the facts. The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan has become known who stands behind it and who supports it, and if Karabakh were not the subject of the conflict currently, another problem would have arisen just to inflame the conflict between the two parties. Azerbaijan is mainly supported by Turkey, which fundamentally rejects the establishment of an Armenian authority in the region, and today Azerbaijan has more support from Western powers in challenge to Russian influence, since Armenia is supported by the Kremlin. In short, the conflict in Karabakh is another front in a proxy war between the major global poles. Alas, it is a big mistake for an amateur to look for a black cat in a dark room. This conflict has deep historical roots. The Karabakh region, with its Armenian majority, is located entirely within Azerbaijani territory and has gone through several historical stages, ranging from international recognition of its affiliation to Armenia to obtaining autonomy in the nineties after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It is important to point out that both countries, Armenia and Azerbaijan, were affiliated with the Soviet Union, and the conflict between them took place in the presence of the Soviet Union. What has complicated the situation recently is Russia's decision to establish a transit corridor to Azerbaijan that passes through Armenian territory, at the same time that Iran moved military forces towards the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. The complexities of geography, the legacies of history, and fears of the outbreak of a new war are factors that interfere with the impact of the renewed conflict in Karabakh after Azerbaijan’s decision to intervene militarily in the region, explaining that it did not find an alternative. Dear, before becoming an autonomous republic, Karabakh was captured by Armenian armed militants from Armenia, after which the Azerbaijanis were forcibly deported, and only then a referendum on independence was held. Karabakh is the former Karabakh Khanate captured by the Russians from Iran, about 5-10% of Armenians lived there. The Russians began to evict the local population and populate them with Armenians from all over the Middle East. The same thing happened with the Yerevan Khanate. Historically, there has never been any Armenian state in these lands. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Kavelj22 on September 22, 2023, 08:40:45 PM I'm pretty sure there is another side of that story. Certainly there is another side to the story, which is the real side when we want to analyze the facts. The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan has become known who stands behind it and who supports it, and if Karabakh were not the subject of the conflict currently, another problem would have arisen just to inflame the conflict between the two parties. Azerbaijan is mainly supported by Turkey, which fundamentally rejects the establishment of an Armenian authority in the region, and today Azerbaijan has more support from Western powers in challenge to Russian influence, since Armenia is supported by the Kremlin. In short, the conflict in Karabakh is another front in a proxy war between the major global poles. Alas, it is a big mistake for an amateur to look for a black cat in a dark room. This conflict has deep historical roots. The Karabakh region, with its Armenian majority, is located entirely within Azerbaijani territory and has gone through several historical stages, ranging from international recognition of its affiliation to Armenia to obtaining autonomy in the nineties after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It is important to point out that both countries, Armenia and Azerbaijan, were affiliated with the Soviet Union, and the conflict between them took place in the presence of the Soviet Union. What has complicated the situation recently is Russia's decision to establish a transit corridor to Azerbaijan that passes through Armenian territory, at the same time that Iran moved military forces towards the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. The complexities of geography, the legacies of history, and fears of the outbreak of a new war are factors that interfere with the impact of the renewed conflict in Karabakh after Azerbaijan’s decision to intervene militarily in the region, explaining that it did not find an alternative. Dear, before becoming an autonomous republic, Karabakh was captured by Armenian armed militants from Armenia, after which the Azerbaijanis were forcibly deported, and only then a referendum on independence was held. Karabakh is the former Karabakh Khanate captured by the Russians from Iran, about 5-10% of Armenians lived there. The Russians began to evict the local population and populate them with Armenians from all over the Middle East. The same thing happened with the Yerevan Khanate. Historically, there has never been any Armenian state in these lands. Therefore, changing the demographic composition of the region (regardless of who did it) was one of the most important reasons for fueling the conflict. This is what I called “the interpenetration of historical factors with geography.” I am not saying that Armenia has the right to impose sovereignty over the region, but Azerbaijan must also search for alternative solutions, especially since the entire region is located within its territory, just as Azerbaijan has an entire region belonging to it that is located within the borders of Armenian territory, and according to what I mention, there are agreements regulating the establishment of crossings between The two regions and their countries. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Alik Bahshi on September 25, 2023, 05:42:09 AM I'm pretty sure there is another side of that story. Certainly there is another side to the story, which is the real side when we want to analyze the facts. The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan has become known who stands behind it and who supports it, and if Karabakh were not the subject of the conflict currently, another problem would have arisen just to inflame the conflict between the two parties. Azerbaijan is mainly supported by Turkey, which fundamentally rejects the establishment of an Armenian authority in the region, and today Azerbaijan has more support from Western powers in challenge to Russian influence, since Armenia is supported by the Kremlin. In short, the conflict in Karabakh is another front in a proxy war between the major global poles. Alas, it is a big mistake for an amateur to look for a black cat in a dark room. This conflict has deep historical roots. The Karabakh region, with its Armenian majority, is located entirely within Azerbaijani territory and has gone through several historical stages, ranging from international recognition of its affiliation to Armenia to obtaining autonomy in the nineties after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It is important to point out that both countries, Armenia and Azerbaijan, were affiliated with the Soviet Union, and the conflict between them took place in the presence of the Soviet Union. What has complicated the situation recently is Russia's decision to establish a transit corridor to Azerbaijan that passes through Armenian territory, at the same time that Iran moved military forces towards the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. The complexities of geography, the legacies of history, and fears of the outbreak of a new war are factors that interfere with the impact of the renewed conflict in Karabakh after Azerbaijan’s decision to intervene militarily in the region, explaining that it did not find an alternative. Dear, before becoming an autonomous republic, Karabakh was captured by Armenian armed militants from Armenia, after which the Azerbaijanis were forcibly deported, and only then a referendum on independence was held. Karabakh is the former Karabakh Khanate captured by the Russians from Iran, about 5-10% of Armenians lived there. The Russians began to evict the local population and populate them with Armenians from all over the Middle East. The same thing happened with the Yerevan Khanate. Historically, there has never been any Armenian state in these lands. Therefore, changing the demographic composition of the region (regardless of who did it) was one of the most important reasons for fueling the conflict. This is what I called “the interpenetration of historical factors with geography.” I am not saying that Armenia has the right to impose sovereignty over the region, but Azerbaijan must also search for alternative solutions, especially since the entire region is located within its territory, just as Azerbaijan has an entire region belonging to it that is located within the borders of Armenian territory, and according to what I mention, there are agreements regulating the establishment of crossings between The two regions and their countries. For 30 years, Azerbaijan tried to solve the problem of the territories occupied by Armenia in an alternative way, but in the end there was nothing left to do but solve the problem by force. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: BADecker on September 25, 2023, 04:01:24 PM Alik Bakhshi Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh ~ This decision is fully consistent with UN resolutions on the territorial integrity of the state of Azerbaijan within internationally recognized borders. ~ 19.09.2023 Anything that is "fully consistent with UN resolutions" has to be bad, but at least not good. Why? The UN is trying to set the stage for those who are trying to take over the world. Rather, let countries be their own independent nations. 8) Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Alik Bahshi on September 25, 2023, 04:05:39 PM Alik Bakhshi Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh ~ This decision is fully consistent with UN resolutions on the territorial integrity of the state of Azerbaijan within internationally recognized borders. ~ 19.09.2023 Anything that is "fully consistent with UN resolutions" has to be bad, but at least not good. Why? The UN is trying to set the stage for those who are trying to take over the world. Rather, let countries be their own independent nations. 8) As I understand it, you mean Ukraine as an independent country. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Kavelj22 on September 26, 2023, 08:21:31 PM I'm pretty sure there is another side of that story. Certainly there is another side to the story, which is the real side when we want to analyze the facts. The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan has become known who stands behind it and who supports it, and if Karabakh were not the subject of the conflict currently, another problem would have arisen just to inflame the conflict between the two parties. Azerbaijan is mainly supported by Turkey, which fundamentally rejects the establishment of an Armenian authority in the region, and today Azerbaijan has more support from Western powers in challenge to Russian influence, since Armenia is supported by the Kremlin. In short, the conflict in Karabakh is another front in a proxy war between the major global poles. Alas, it is a big mistake for an amateur to look for a black cat in a dark room. This conflict has deep historical roots. The Karabakh region, with its Armenian majority, is located entirely within Azerbaijani territory and has gone through several historical stages, ranging from international recognition of its affiliation to Armenia to obtaining autonomy in the nineties after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It is important to point out that both countries, Armenia and Azerbaijan, were affiliated with the Soviet Union, and the conflict between them took place in the presence of the Soviet Union. What has complicated the situation recently is Russia's decision to establish a transit corridor to Azerbaijan that passes through Armenian territory, at the same time that Iran moved military forces towards the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. The complexities of geography, the legacies of history, and fears of the outbreak of a new war are factors that interfere with the impact of the renewed conflict in Karabakh after Azerbaijan’s decision to intervene militarily in the region, explaining that it did not find an alternative. Dear, before becoming an autonomous republic, Karabakh was captured by Armenian armed militants from Armenia, after which the Azerbaijanis were forcibly deported, and only then a referendum on independence was held. Karabakh is the former Karabakh Khanate captured by the Russians from Iran, about 5-10% of Armenians lived there. The Russians began to evict the local population and populate them with Armenians from all over the Middle East. The same thing happened with the Yerevan Khanate. Historically, there has never been any Armenian state in these lands. Therefore, changing the demographic composition of the region (regardless of who did it) was one of the most important reasons for fueling the conflict. This is what I called “the interpenetration of historical factors with geography.” I am not saying that Armenia has the right to impose sovereignty over the region, but Azerbaijan must also search for alternative solutions, especially since the entire region is located within its territory, just as Azerbaijan has an entire region belonging to it that is located within the borders of Armenian territory, and according to what I mention, there are agreements regulating the establishment of crossings between The two regions and their countries. For 30 years, Azerbaijan tried to solve the problem of the territories occupied by Armenia in an alternative way, but in the end there was nothing left to do but solve the problem by force. The conflict will continue as long as there are those who benefit from it. I do not defend Armenia's right to the region, and I know that the conflict is old and renewed. But at the same time, I know two important things: first, that Azerbaijan is supported by Turkey to inflame the conflict, and of course the historical hostility between Armenians and Turks is known due to the Armenian massacre in 1915, and second, that there is a territory belonging to Azerbaijan that lies entirely within Armenian territory. It is assumed that there are mutual interests between the two parties, but external parties are the primary beneficiaries of the instability of the situation in the region. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Alik Bahshi on September 27, 2023, 03:18:15 PM I'm pretty sure there is another side of that story. Certainly there is another side to the story, which is the real side when we want to analyze the facts. The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan has become known who stands behind it and who supports it, and if Karabakh were not the subject of the conflict currently, another problem would have arisen just to inflame the conflict between the two parties. Azerbaijan is mainly supported by Turkey, which fundamentally rejects the establishment of an Armenian authority in the region, and today Azerbaijan has more support from Western powers in challenge to Russian influence, since Armenia is supported by the Kremlin. In short, the conflict in Karabakh is another front in a proxy war between the major global poles. Alas, it is a big mistake for an amateur to look for a black cat in a dark room. This conflict has deep historical roots. The Karabakh region, with its Armenian majority, is located entirely within Azerbaijani territory and has gone through several historical stages, ranging from international recognition of its affiliation to Armenia to obtaining autonomy in the nineties after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It is important to point out that both countries, Armenia and Azerbaijan, were affiliated with the Soviet Union, and the conflict between them took place in the presence of the Soviet Union. What has complicated the situation recently is Russia's decision to establish a transit corridor to Azerbaijan that passes through Armenian territory, at the same time that Iran moved military forces towards the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. The complexities of geography, the legacies of history, and fears of the outbreak of a new war are factors that interfere with the impact of the renewed conflict in Karabakh after Azerbaijan’s decision to intervene militarily in the region, explaining that it did not find an alternative. Dear, before becoming an autonomous republic, Karabakh was captured by Armenian armed militants from Armenia, after which the Azerbaijanis were forcibly deported, and only then a referendum on independence was held. Karabakh is the former Karabakh Khanate captured by the Russians from Iran, about 5-10% of Armenians lived there. The Russians began to evict the local population and populate them with Armenians from all over the Middle East. The same thing happened with the Yerevan Khanate. Historically, there has never been any Armenian state in these lands. Therefore, changing the demographic composition of the region (regardless of who did it) was one of the most important reasons for fueling the conflict. This is what I called “the interpenetration of historical factors with geography.” I am not saying that Armenia has the right to impose sovereignty over the region, but Azerbaijan must also search for alternative solutions, especially since the entire region is located within its territory, just as Azerbaijan has an entire region belonging to it that is located within the borders of Armenian territory, and according to what I mention, there are agreements regulating the establishment of crossings between The two regions and their countries. For 30 years, Azerbaijan tried to solve the problem of the territories occupied by Armenia in an alternative way, but in the end there was nothing left to do but solve the problem by force. The conflict will continue as long as there are those who benefit from it. I do not defend Armenia's right to the region, and I know that the conflict is old and renewed. But at the same time, I know two important things: first, that Azerbaijan is supported by Turkey to inflame the conflict, and of course the historical hostility between Armenians and Turks is known due to the Armenian massacre in 1915, and second, that there is a territory belonging to Azerbaijan that lies entirely within Armenian territory. It is assumed that there are mutual interests between the two parties, but external parties are the primary beneficiaries of the instability of the situation in the region. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: Alik Bahshi on October 03, 2023, 05:30:24 AM Azerbaijan has finally closed the Arsakh project. Armenian occupiers leave Karabakh after 30 years of occupation.
Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: LTU_btc on October 05, 2023, 07:42:48 PM Armenian president Pashinyan signed declaration which recognized the area of Azerbaijan as 86,600 square kilometers, which includes Karabakh in EU summit in Granada.
Meanwhile, over 100 000 ethnic Armenians have already left region. It's most of of their population, so, now region looks almost like ghost city, as there is very few people remain there. Title: Re: Azerbaijan begins to eliminate the illegal regime in Karabakh Post by: WillyAp on October 06, 2023, 01:23:53 PM Azerbaijan has finally closed the Arsakh project. Armenian occupiers leave Karabakh after 30 years of occupation. How little empathy for people leaving the place they lived in, Many of those were born there. |