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Title: How to monitor newly created etherium wallets?
Post by: woobid on September 25, 2023, 11:48:52 AM
Can you please tell me how to monitor newly created etherium wallets? I know how to monitor a specific wallet or related wallets for incoming and outgoing transactions. But how to find newly created wallets, I couldn't find.

Searching for wallets with only one fresh transaction also works.

I considered the following services:

zapper.xyz
app.zerion.io
etherscan.io
dextools.io
But not a single service allows you to achieve your goal.


Title: Re: How to monitor newly created etherium wallets?
Post by: Odohu on September 25, 2023, 12:17:05 PM
I have searched for this before and the best answer I got was that "there's no way of knowing when a private key corresponding to an address was generated. It can be done offline. It can be done years in the past".  So,you can only know when the wallet first receive the first transaction,  a response in this article also support this (https://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/40183/how-to-retrieve-wallets-creation-date-via-api-of-etherchain-org).

I will be keenly waiting to see what others have to say too.


Title: Re: How to monitor newly created etherium wallets?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 25, 2023, 12:30:37 PM
As mentioned above. There is no way to know when an address has been created. An address with a valid checksum = a valid address, whether someone generated it with a wallet before or not.

As for your second question regarding a tool that finds addresses with fresh transactions, I'm not aware of any. I even checked some on-chain intelligence services but there's nothing of that nature. Obviously, that's doable but you might need to code it yourself. I'm curious, what is it that you're trying to achieve here?


Title: Re: How to monitor newly created etherium wallets?
Post by: woobid on September 25, 2023, 01:10:22 PM
I have searched for this before and the best answer I got was that "there's no way of knowing when a private key corresponding to an address was generated. It can be done offline. It can be done years in the past".  So,you can only know when the wallet first receive the first transaction,  a response in this article also support this (https://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/40183/how-to-retrieve-wallets-creation-date-via-api-of-etherchain-org).

I will be keenly waiting to see what others have to say too.

Thank you very much for the information and the link, my friend! You're super!  :)


As mentioned above. There is no way to know when an address has been created. An address with a valid checksum = a valid address, whether someone generated it with a wallet before or not.

As for your second question regarding a tool that finds addresses with fresh transactions, I'm not aware of any. I even checked some on-chain intelligence services but there's nothing of that nature. Obviously, that's doable but you might need to code it yourself. I'm curious, what is it that you're trying to achieve here?

I watched some YouTube bloggers who tell guides how to find successful whale wallets in DEX, and poke their deals. Such whales have insider information. But when I really started checking the transactions of the token wallet, I saw that most of the first buyers use clean and new wallets. It's logical, why leave the story behind, so that people like me and other guys copy them. I thought that it would be possible to track the crypto wallets that have just been created, and monitor them. parse wallets from the first tranazktsii, map their addresses with the names of tokens and try to repeat their purchases. Maybe my questions are stupid and my ideas are naive.


Title: Re: How to monitor newly created etherium wallets?
Post by: dansus021 on September 29, 2023, 01:37:43 AM
I watched some YouTube bloggers who tell guides how to find successful whale wallets in DEX, and poke their deals. Such whales have insider information. But when I really started checking the transactions of the token wallet, I saw that most of the first buyers use clean and new wallets. It's logical, why leave the story behind, so that people like me and other guys copy them. I thought that it would be possible to track the crypto wallets that have just been created, and monitor them. parse wallets from the first tranazktsii, map their addresses with the names of tokens and try to repeat their purchases. Maybe my questions are stupid and my ideas are naive.

It is a different case but yes whale can be detected easily since they carry a large amount of money there is also tracked bitcoin whale or there is also a report from CryptoQuant - https://cryptoquant.com/ or Whale Alert on telegram https://t.me/whalebotalerts Bitcoin dormant and large address who contained a ton of money are trackable now.

and what do you mean poke their deals. Did you mean Sniffing transaction using MEV Bot on Dex if yes, MeV bot actually quite profitable but some Dexes now has the feature to counter this attack.


Title: Re: How to monitor newly created etherium wallets?
Post by: mk4 on September 29, 2023, 02:14:29 AM
I watched some YouTube bloggers who tell guides how to find successful whale wallets in DEX, and poke their deals. Such whales have insider information. But when I really started checking the transactions of the token wallet, I saw that most of the first buyers use clean and new wallets. It's logical, why leave the story behind, so that people like me and other guys copy them. I thought that it would be possible to track the crypto wallets that have just been created, and monitor them. parse wallets from the first tranazktsii, map their addresses with the names of tokens and try to repeat their purchases. Maybe my questions are stupid and my ideas are naive.

I use both Nansen and Arkham Intelligence for wallet tracking. Don't expect every feature to be free, though.

Also, you really can't know if a wallet has just been newly created. You can only know by their first transaction. And how do you even know for sure if the new wallet is a whale's wallet? It could be anyone's wallet.


Title: Re: How to monitor newly created etherium wallets?
Post by: Dave1 on September 29, 2023, 04:50:56 AM
I watched some YouTube bloggers who tell guides how to find successful whale wallets in DEX, and poke their deals. Such whales have insider information. But when I really started checking the transactions of the token wallet, I saw that most of the first buyers use clean and new wallets. It's logical, why leave the story behind, so that people like me and other guys copy them. I thought that it would be possible to track the crypto wallets that have just been created, and monitor them. parse wallets from the first tranazktsii, map their addresses with the names of tokens and try to repeat their purchases. Maybe my questions are stupid and my ideas are naive.

I use both Nansen and Arkham Intelligence for wallet tracking. Don't expect every feature to be free, though.

Speaking of Nansen though, I'm not really sure if you are aware of this, [Warning]: Crypto firm Nansen ask users to reset their password (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5467784.0).

Also, you really can't know if a wallet has just been newly created. You can only know by their first transaction. And how do you even know for sure if the new wallet is a whale's wallet? It could be anyone's wallet.

That's why I don't trust those accounts that says they follow whales wallet. Sometimes it just create more confusion for newbies.

As for the service ask by the OP, there is none so far and I think it's better be that way though.


Title: Re: How to monitor newly created etherium wallets?
Post by: robelneo on September 29, 2023, 09:49:56 AM
I thought that it would be possible to track the crypto wallets that have just been created, and monitor them. parse wallets from the first tranazktsii, map their addresses with the names of tokens and try to repeat their purchases. Maybe my questions are stupid and my ideas are naive.

Not really It is actually something that's worth considering by the developers, but the big question is what will motivate developers to create a tool that can track a new wallet, we never know, the technology is advancing we may see a tool for this in the coming years, its quite a complex idea to materialize though, maybe a centralized wallet can do this but a decentralized wallet will not offer this kind of feature.


Title: Re: How to monitor newly created etherium wallets?
Post by: noorman0 on September 29, 2023, 05:21:27 PM
Basically no new wallets are created. All addresses that have ever been and will ever be generated by a wallet are determined from this address stack (https://keys.lol/ethereum/random). The wallet platform simply facilitates you fetching one or more private keys randomly using the wallet's own proprietary method.

So, when a new wallet can be monitored is from when vitalik started running the ethereum blockchain for the first time.


Title: Re: How to monitor newly created etherium wallets?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on September 29, 2023, 11:33:02 PM
as far as I knew, every wallet already created since day 1, its just you got private key that give access to these wallet when you generate, so basically there's no such thing as ethereum wallet newly generated.
its all already generated beforehand, its just people didn't have access to the wallet only when someone found private key relating to that wallet, then that wallet is taken.
therefore if you are asking how to monitor the newly created wallet you basically asking how to monitor the entire wallet available in the blockchain meaning you gonna
monitor all wallet in existence.