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Title: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: Hispo on October 01, 2023, 03:52:35 PM
Hello and I hope you all are having a comfortable and safe day.
Today 6 years ago the deadliest mass shooting in American history took place and part of it happened in one of the biggest hotels and casinos of Las Vegas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting).

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On October 1, 2017, a mass shooting occurred when 64-year-old Stephen Paddock opened fire on the crowd attending the Route 91 Harvest music festival on the Las Vegas Strip in Nevada from his 32nd-floor suites in the Mandalay Bay hotel. He fired more than 1,000 bullets, killing 60 people[a] and wounding at least 413.





Source: https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/video/day-history-las-vegas-shooting-142000950.html

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October 1, 2017. 64-year-old Stephen Paddock opened fire on a crowd of concert-goers from his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay on the Las Vegas strip.



Back then happened it was quite shocking to me, because I could not comprehend such senseless act of violence and even to this day, it is something which disturbs me.

I would like to use this thread to both remember the victims of this mindless tragedy and also to lay some questions onto the table for all of you who have visited casinos and resorts since 2017, specially in USA.

Do you think security measures in Casinos and Resorts got tougher since this massacre took place?
Would be as easy as it was back in 2017 to bring dozens of weapons and ammo up to the 32th floor of a resort nowadays?

If you were in charge of a casino, what would you do to curb the risk of something like this ever happening again?



Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: Hatchy on October 01, 2023, 04:14:50 PM
If you were in charge of a casino, what would you do to curb the risk of something like this ever happening again?

It would be a difficult Task, to accomplish, since these casinos are usually occupied by different people with different intentions as to what they were supposed to do in the casino.
But as regards security matters, to avoid such devious acts from ever happening again you should be able to keep record of all visitors coming in and out of the casino. It's usually done by toping up your security measures and adding an extra layer of security devices with lastest upgrades like metal detectors with higher ranges just incase some might try playing smart. Also, you have to be aware of your employees, they might also be trouble for you since they know much about the system. So it's best to keep an eye on them.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: GxSTxV on October 01, 2023, 05:10:36 PM
I heard of this unfortunate incident before, I’m sorry for them and their families. But what happened can’t be avoided as weapons are Legalized in USA and it’s on easy access. Anyone with some mental issues can do such a crime not only near a casino but everywhere else.
I never had a chance to attend a real casino because of living in a country where gambling and casinos are not authorized, My only option is online gambling which is a safer option also when it comes to incidents like this related to weapons or violence. However the side effects in online gambling can be worse than gambling in a real casino.
Answering your question about  the security measures in casino later after what happened I believe there is a better routines and measures because we didn’t hear similar incidents after that, still just what I know since I don’t live in USA, and if I were in charge of a casino security surely there few things I would like to do from prohibiting guns or any arms near the facility and also doing the best to calm anger cases between gamblers and control situations where I believe the gambler may do something bad especially on a big loss.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: noormcs5 on October 01, 2023, 05:16:36 PM
Answering your question about  the security measures in casino later after what happened I believe there is a better routines and measures because we didn’t hear similar incidents after that, still just what I know since I don’t live in USA, and if I were in charge of a casino security surely there few things I would like to do from prohibiting guns or any arms near the facility and also doing the best to calm anger cases between gamblers and control situations where I believe the gambler may do something bad especially on a big loss.

It depends from situation to situation and if there is a security risk, then the casino owner should hire full fledged security inside and outside the casino to avoid such incidents. Just like we always see a security guard outside the banks, since gamblers bring in and take out money from the casino, the security arrangements are very necessary.

However, this applies to the physical casino. For online casinos, the security should be in a sense that no hacker can hack the site and the site should have all the measures to prevent brute force and other attacks.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: Fiatless on October 01, 2023, 05:38:49 PM
Back then happened it was quite shocking to me, because I could not comprehend such senseless act of violence and even to this day, it is something which disturbs me.

I would like to use this thread to both remember the victims of this mindless tragedy and also to lay some questions onto the table for all of you who have visited casinos and resorts since 2017, specially in the USA.

Do you think security measures in Casinos and Resorts got tougher since this massacre took place?
Would be as easy as it was back in 2017 to bring dozens of weapons and ammo up to the 32nd floor of a resort nowadays?

If you were in charge of a casino, what would you do to curb the risk of something like this ever happening again?
This senseless killing was possible because of the gun policy of the United States. Handguns can be carried around without restrictions. From the news we get from the US, little has really changed. There is still a high rate of mass shootings in the US even soft zones like schools have been main targets in recent times. Most of these mass killers in the US invest a lot of time and financial recourse to carry out these wicked acts so they end up outsmarting the security systems of the country.

In my country, we hardly have mass shootings because guns are restricted to only law enforcement agencies. Big hotels like Mandalay Bay will have metal dictators that will limit the possibility of bringing such arms that make someone shoot close to a thousand bullets from a hotel room.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: Eternad on October 01, 2023, 05:52:22 PM
Back then happened it was quite shocking to me, because I could not comprehend such senseless act of violence and even to this day, it is something which disturbs me.

Don’t be surprised since mass shooting and other insane way to harm of people is very common on USA. I will not be surprised if the suspect on this mass shooting is a victim of gambling since most of them resort to violence once they know that they already loss everything.

Casino security on Vegas is become more tightened because of this incident. This makes casino experience more suffocating in there since you can’t play loose in there or else security will come to get you.  :D


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: jrrsparkles on October 01, 2023, 06:06:19 PM
Nothing changed on the policies and for the fact the number of mass shootings reported kept increasing year by year and here is the reference.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/01/P1kgj.png

Casinos and resorts may tighten their security system after that particular incident but if you want something that needs to be changed then it has to be done on the policy level to see any actual change.

Democrats have no intention of doing it as well but they said they are going to make changes in the gun licensing regulations.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: Hispo on October 01, 2023, 06:23:18 PM
Back then happened it was quite shocking to me, because I could not comprehend such senseless act of violence and even to this day, it is something which disturbs me.

Don’t be surprised since mass shooting and other insane way to harm of people is very common on USA. I will not be surprised if the suspect on this mass shooting is a victim of gambling since most of them resort to violence once they know that they already loss everything.

That is the weirdest part about this case, though.
Even though he had lost a considerable percentage of his money to casinos, he continued to be a millionaire, had properties and a girlfriend who worked as a waitress in a casino.

Do it does not completely fit into the profile of a gambler who had loss everything to casinos, though he was arrogant enough to claim he could beat the system while being a dedicated gambler. Officially, his motivations have been classified as undetermined to this day.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: edmundduke on October 01, 2023, 06:23:47 PM
Nothing changed on the policies and for the fact the number of mass shootings reported kept increasing year by year and here is the reference.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/01/P1kgj.png

Casinos and resorts may tighten their security system after that particular incident but if you want something that needs to be changed then it has to be done on the policy level to see any actual change.

Democrats have no intention of doing it as well but they said they are going to make changes in the gun licensing regulations.
The thing with the mass shootings is, most of them are gang related shootings.

As for tightening security, thats pretty difficult, especially if dealing with a rogue shooter. Im guessing airport style scanners at entrance could be one way of trying to reduce it. But an arsenal like that would probably go in from a side door anyway.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: stomachgrowls on October 01, 2023, 06:32:16 PM

Do you think security measures in Casinos and Resorts got tougher since this massacre took place?

No one knows but pretty much sure that they have toughen up their security because there's no other incident happened after that(hopefully) there would really be no next situation
with this type of accident which do really waste up tons of life just because of whatever reasons that he had in mind.
Would be as easy as it was back in 2017 to bring dozens of weapons and ammo up to the 32th floor of a resort nowadays?

If you are that someone whose that financially capable then you do almost have the access and there's no way that they could really be that
strrict on whatever things that you do bring inside your room or hotel or whatsoever but pretty sure that after the incident happen
then there would really be those drastic changes in security.
If you were in charge of a casino, what would you do to curb the risk of something like this ever happening again?

Very strict on entering the vicinity.There's no such thing about exemptions or whatsoever no matter how rich or reputable you are
on which you would really be needing to pass with those security checks first before entering the vicinity or premises.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: bittraffic on October 01, 2023, 07:44:51 PM

Seem an isolated incident though but yes tougher security is needed. That's the only they can do. But damn so many were killed. Felt sorry for them. RIP.

However, they can only minimize the mass shooting incidents but not really cut it to zero because crazy old men are not monitored 247.
A mass shooting will always happen, it may not be in a Vegas Hotel but somewhere else because it's easy to acquire guns in the US. The 2nd amendment is a touchy topic in US.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: maydna on October 01, 2023, 11:03:09 PM
The casino has implemented tighter security than in previous years, especially since there have been bad incidents in the past few years. And it wouldn't be easy to bring dozens of guns and ammunition into a casino because security will check all visitors before they enter the casino.

But visitors can carry guns and ammunition in underground casinos where we may have heard about it. If I were responsible for the casino, I would increase security and not allow the same incident to happen again. That will damage the casino's reputation that it has built a long time ago.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: Wexnident on October 02, 2023, 10:49:29 AM
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Do you think security measures in Casinos and Resorts got tougher since this massacre took place?
Would be as easy as it was back in 2017 to bring dozens of weapons and ammo up to the 32th floor of a resort nowadays?

If you were in charge of a casino, what would you do to curb the risk of something like this ever happening again?
I'd say it depends still. Even with security in place, as long as an insider agrees to cooperate then things can be done way too easily. Everything from cameras to guard methods is, in the end, handled by humans. It's way too easy to say temporarily turn off cameras if they can get assistance from an insider, and the same with patrol areas and the like. Not to mention that even with security measures improving, you can say attack measure also improved.

The least I'd do would probably set up traps. While it's hard to determine how to stop something you don't know, it's rather easy to setup a blockade/trap when you know it already happened. Sad to say though this can lead to a lot more people being implicated since the plan is to deal with it AFTER, not before.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: madnessteat on October 02, 2023, 11:04:05 AM
~snip~

I've never been to a Las Vegas casino, so I can't know how much security has improved since that unfortunate incident, but I've read various sources about the story. I think that if a person really wants to commit mass murder, nothing can stop them. If he doesn't commit it in a casino, he can do it in any other public place.

Unfortunately, today's health care system cannot detect in the early stages of a person's predisposition to murder and cruelty. In my opinion, this sphere should be more carefully controlled, because there have always been people with predispositions to brutal cruelty. And there has always been a problem of detecting such people.


Title: Re: Casino security - What changed since 2017 Las Vegas attack?
Post by: Gozie51 on October 02, 2023, 11:25:58 AM
I think it would still be difficult to prevent such shooting occurrence in American casinos because of the legal status of carrying guns. What happened in that casino is not different from the school shooting that has been rampantly witnessed in America with the most recent about 5 months ago.

Such incident will be difficult to totally be controlled by casino security. A situation where someone has license to a gone, he could just open fire if he wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and casino to me is a spot for illicit and bad intention minded people hang out, there might still be fight breaking out within enemies.