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Title: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: forexandcryptoauditor on October 05, 2023, 08:29:01 AM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: yazher on October 05, 2023, 10:13:16 AM
The thing is, the best thing to do is work at your preferred job and invest some money from your salary every month in bitcoins and when you have free time, you can try to promote some project via social media and receive some decent payments from them once they are listed in exchanges. Because not all the time you get some rewards from bounties because right now almost all of them are unreliable and not paying like how they used to be in 2018. Back then, you always come across some successful stories after they hit the jackpot of joining the right bounties which changed their life positively forever because the rewards they got were huge.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: huu78 on October 05, 2023, 10:18:25 AM
Because this is your first time seeing market conditions and its changing cycles, emotions can hinder your goals.
I felt that when I felt like I was losing money from trading and had to get my money back quickly, that's when emotions took control.
From there I slowly started everything again.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Blitzboy on October 05, 2023, 10:45:55 AM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
It sounds like a wild ride, huh? Making money in bounties and then doing crypto trading. Everybody's seen others succeed and wondered, "Why not me?" What works for one individual may not work for another, and vice versa.

Getting caught up in the excitement is simple. Earning what you'd make in a year in a month would tempt everyone. Your problem is that if everyone was making a fortune in crypto trading, we'd all be millionaires.

Therefore, stick to what you know and keep studying. Despite the appeal of crypto trading, why not stay to bounty hunting if it makes you money? That perfect spot between risk and reward is key. Remember that playing it safe is okay, especially when you have bills. Hope you succeed!


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Silberman on October 05, 2023, 11:28:09 AM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
That is how it is supposed to be, I know a lot of people that want to live the good life, but when I ask them what are they doing to reach that goal? The answer is always the same, nothing, they do nothing to achieve their dreams so it is not surprising they are not an inch closer to reach them than they were years ago, so it is important to work hard towards our dreams, and even if they seem to be far away, it will surprise you how soon you can reach them as long as you are constant on your efforts.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: snowpega on October 05, 2023, 11:39:22 AM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
That is how it is supposed to be, I know a lot of people that want to live the good life, but when I ask them what are they doing to reach that goal? The answer is always the same, nothing, they do nothing to achieve their dreams so it is not surprising they are not an inch closer to reach them than they were years ago, so it is important to work hard towards our dreams, and even if they seem to be far away, it will surprise you how soon you can reach them as long as you are constant on your efforts.


Silberman you are so right even i have seen many people of this kind like when i listen to their goal which they want to achieve and becoming a successful person in life very early and the moment when i ask them what are your efforts to achieve your goals they just say very easily nothing which TBH hits too bad. The thing which reflect into my mind on the spot that these kinda people really think success will come into their feets with getting into  mud or paying off any struggle for that and still they hope to become successful. Then I be like Whats that rubbish.

In my prospect every stage wants sacrifice and struggle to achieve so that the person who is trying hard to achieve that goal or stage really deserve it to be own at the end of the day.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: irsykes on October 05, 2023, 11:51:56 AM
Really no one knows about the future, when getting to know the world of crypto, I used to get big money every month but somehow the money ran out without me realizing it. So quickly I returned to being an office worker, and in 2020 I started again looking for money as a bounty and airdrop hunter and now I can get enough income. but the job of a hunter is only a side job not to be the main one, in every crypto world there are bull and bear seasons making the choice of an office job the main one. because being a simple person is more comfortable not offending your neighbors


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Psynthax on October 05, 2023, 01:47:39 PM
luck will easily multiply your income, but i do agree if hardwork pays, but here's the thing, some people might be earning massive amount of money through luck and thats fine.
some other people need to work hard to earn that money from few dollars to hundred thousands through hard work that also fine, there's simply many way you can earn whether its luck or hardwork.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on October 05, 2023, 03:42:23 PM
Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
Yes I think Im kinda have the same experienced. Got some moneys too before from bounty and some trading and got decent earnings from it. We should always have a proper management of funds cause it will be gone right away if not use right. Ive got some realizations before that what If I did sold all during that time something like that I am sitting pretty already on with a passive income something like that. But thats life, we must accept our fate over things we might actually overstepped with.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Zee27 on October 05, 2023, 05:59:33 PM
My boss would say work smart, not hard and I think these two are > than luck in investments generally. ( some might be fortunate to make the right decisions, invest right, or maybe acquire a token shortly before its price surges an a practical example of this was when I bought some BGB tokens three days before its price increased its currently at 0.45) but in all I believe making smart and right decisions are better than "working hard" when it comes to investing.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Zee27 on October 05, 2023, 06:03:26 PM
luck will easily multiply your income, but i do agree if hardwork pays, but here's the thing, some people might be earning massive amount of money through luck and thats fine.
some other people need to work hard to earn that money from few dollars to hundred thousands through hard work that also fine, there's simply many way you can earn whether its luck or hardwork.

I wouldn't suggest that anyone who intends to invest in crypto or other forms of investment rely on only luck and this is because "luck" is not guaranteed to everyone and also, not everytime.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Wakate on October 05, 2023, 07:02:07 PM
Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
Truly hard work pays only if we are always ready to take decisions that may not be comfortable to us now but would be very good to us later. There is need for us to think carefully before we make any decisions because this will be a gate way for us when the time comes. One of the things I have learnt about life is for us to always make sure that we don't complain too much. We should learn the habit of learning at any time or any day. If we make sure that we learn then soon, what we have learnt will make a way for us to prosper and reach the limit we have been longing to reach.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: nelson4lov on October 05, 2023, 07:17:49 PM
Hard work and luck plays its role in success. More often than not, people base it entirely on just hard workout but that's not the only variable. @OP, for some context: What if you were not opportuned to know/hear about Bitcoin in 2018, lucky enough to find the forum or even more lucky to find and participated in some of the best campaigns?

Hard work, a bit of luck and some fine-tuned strategy is what most people just need to reach their peak.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: jossiel on October 05, 2023, 09:13:48 PM
It was also seasonal when you've earned that much in bounties. And it's like just the end of that time because 2018 was a bear market.

Well, it is true that hard work always pays off than luck but with those bounties you've joined. It's likely that luck was also with you during those times.

And it's a well advantage for you as you've got a corporate job that you have nothing to worry about bi-weekly, weekly or monthly salary while doing something else like what you do.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Johnyz on October 05, 2023, 09:29:19 PM
Hard work and being wise always pays, better not to depend on any luck because you’ll not succeed if you will not work and be familiarize about how the market works. There’s a lot of ways for you to earn in crypto market and most of them doesn’t need any luck for you to succeed aside from gambling of course. Do learn more and continue to adjust according to the market trend, don’t settle for less.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Hypnosis00 on October 05, 2023, 09:43:32 PM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
I have no question that many bounty hunters got a lot of money in the previous years as I experienced as well (that was 5-6 years ago). But now, I'm not sure still be like that knowing that most of the bounties these days turn to scams and receiving shitcoins as rewards. Joining them could be an earning opportunity but if you think that they are reliable enough, I doubt it.
Well, good job you didn't quit your job because some did it as they are now full-time in crypto trading and some succeeded while the others are in regrets.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Wexnident on October 05, 2023, 09:54:10 PM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
But wouldn't you consider finding out about bounty hunter jobs as "luck"? Sure, hard work made it possible to earn from it, but luck on the other hand can introduce to you various opportunities, so really, they just go hand in hand. Hard work makes it so that opportunities you get are not lost, and luck is that factor that can make said hardwork (or anything you do) noticeable to something (or you notice something instead) kind of thing.

Trading involves more on the luck side imo, hard work can only get you to about breaking even imo, minimizing loss, and stuff like that. Even when you work hard to analyze the market, it's not exactly a guarantee that things will go the way you expect it to be after all.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: goaldigger on October 05, 2023, 09:54:20 PM
Hard work and being wise always pays, better not to depend on any luck because you’ll not succeed if you will not work and be familiarize about how the market works. There’s a lot of ways for you to earn in crypto market and most of them doesn’t need any luck for you to succeed aside from gambling of course. Do learn more and continue to adjust according to the market trend, don’t settle for less.
Definitely being wise is a must because this is a risky market and having a good investment decision together with your hard work can bring more profit to you than any losses. Again, if you have more opportunity to be more active on any campaign or any investment opportunity, the better just grab it and do your best to qualify always. Be creative and productive at the same time, those who work more usually gets more.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: The Cryptovator on October 05, 2023, 09:59:55 PM
When you had bounties, that was a golden time. But for now, I don't think Bounty would give something big. It has become a spam campaign lately. You can still earn bounties from trading. But for trading you should learn a lot and spend time to analyse. Otherwise, you may keep losing your earned money. So yes, I believe hard work would give you a good return. You can keep trying to change your luck by being hardworking.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: bittick on October 05, 2023, 10:23:42 PM
if truly wanna gain success you should have balance of the two, you can be hard working all this century and have nothing.
thats what most unfortunate people are having right now, so much hard work but nothing in return because they working at place where salary is minimal, with luck if you happen to be in good country with high salary you're settled.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: AliMan on October 05, 2023, 10:45:47 PM
Don't expect much with lotto winnings in times of no assurance, because if you base your life with luck you can't establish a financial stability. In trading your crypto, you should say to it that every decision is in line with your goals and perspectives. If those old days of 2017 and 2018 bounty tokens will again wake up and got good value, I guess that's the very best ideas to take steps. These days I'm still expecting luck from those assets even though the value was zero.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: asriloni on October 05, 2023, 11:15:21 PM
That being said that if you have been triggered by so many traders that posted their won but you didn't need even fully trust them caused by it's not all of them were posted their achievements. I meant some traders were faking their testimony too.
Just be yourself and you shall never blame how luck or unlucky you with it. Anyone has ever suffered the same situation as you but you are still having main job and that's why bounty is working.
Bounty can be used as side job only to get additional income while you needs to always stick into your main job as a way to get the main income for your life.
Having a lot of didn't even mean you can spend them all easily. Doing trading is a risky activity that will be involving your mentality to deal with it. It's quite hard to know that which was the direction from the coins.
It's caused by sometimes the price was just being manipulated by some people.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: ahyadinnn on October 06, 2023, 12:42:07 AM
playing the lottery will never change your life for the better, because the lottery only relies on luck and if you are not lucky, you will lose all the money you have, even real world assets will be sold because of curiosity about the lottery, and do you play futures trading? I play too and it is very important to manage risk, usually I put a margin of no more than 3% and so far it is still safe.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: FahriZah on October 06, 2023, 04:47:54 AM
Every people’s want to do hard work and earning huge money but so many people’s don,t know how to start hard work with good projects and how to earn money from online platform but when doing hard work but we didn’t get payments than our luck is very bad and unlucky.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: @sriyan on October 06, 2023, 10:32:05 AM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.

You can try out the other opportunities. You are too much focusing on bounty hunter and trading.

1. Ambassador programs
You can create a content or administration work in the project. When the project launch, they will pay you stables or their token.

2. Testnet and Mainnet
in here, testnets are free. You only need capital for the mainnet. This is more focusing into the airdrops.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Joseph-P on October 06, 2023, 11:44:10 AM
And finally, you have realized something wonderful, which is always diligently pursuing the work you love, setting aside some spare time to engage in learning and investment. I believe everyone would like to hear more details about the stories you have experienced in the cryptocurrency market; those are valuable real-life lessons.
Yes I certainly would love to hear his stories. I believe we all have gone through quite a bit, especially those that have been in crypto for two years or more. For me, it started out hard so I kinda understood that there were no shortcuts earlier on. Still going strong in the hustle btw. But every once in a while, it's always nice mingle with folks here on similar life paths.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: cheezcarls on October 06, 2023, 11:53:41 AM
Bounties and airdrops are the best kickstart for me in the good ol’ days of 2017. It saved me from financial disaster. But one of the hardest lessons that I have learned is that I should never rely on airdrops and bounties as my main income source.

So I had to apply for various crypto companies and luckily I have landed some. However, the contracts did not last long for an average of between 1 to 2 years. It made me travel more often, developing myself as a passionate content creator, educator, keynote and panel speaker, community builder and more.

Until now I still get good amount of crypto-related gigs, KOL and ambassador related works. Just being steady that’s all. Not just hardwork, but also “smart” work as well.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: CarnagexD on October 06, 2023, 01:46:03 PM
playing the lottery will never change your life for the better, because the lottery only relies on luck and if you are not lucky, you will lose all the money you have, even real world assets will be sold because of curiosity about the lottery, and do you play futures trading? I play too and it is very important to manage risk, usually I put a margin of no more than 3% and so far it is still safe.

Tho success really is essential for success, i believe luck plays a role too! hehe When you work hard, you acquire skills, knowledge, and experience that can lead to success in your life. But when luck come into play, it open doors that you don’t anticipate like meeting the right person or being in the right place at the right time. But yeah relying solely on luck, especially in something as uncertain as the lottery is very risky. Shouldnt try


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Japinat on October 06, 2023, 02:06:36 PM
We have to believe in what we can do for our life to make it better rather than relying on luck which we never know when it comes, most of the time it is never. If we have good education and skills, we can uplift our living. Easy money won't stay long in our hands and let us say that we are lucky today to win the jackpot, we can never expect this will last forever unless we are wise enough to manage it well and use it for investment. In fact, so many people win the jackpot in the lottery and become rich but guess what, after a few months they become poor again.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: coin-investor on October 06, 2023, 02:31:46 PM


Back in 2018 bounty hunting was very profitable the job was very simple, participating in signature campaigns and social media campaigns on at least 4 legit projects would yield a good result, I made 10 times what I earned in my office job in a signature campaign back then.

In your case, it is greediness trading is hard work if you are not dedicated and you do not have the perseverance you will eventually lose, Lucky for you you only lose a portion, it's not yet too late you have a good chance and Bitcoin has a huge potential in the coming halving just don't do any more trading or investing in pump and dump trending project.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Alpha Marine on October 06, 2023, 02:42:26 PM
I am not a bounty hunter but I can relate a bit to what you're saying.
I can't say I'm a lucky person because I always have to work hard for what I earn. I have never gotten anything without a little effort.
I believe so much in hard work, but the thing is we also have to work smart.
As we're putting in those long hours into our craft, career, and business, we also have to be smart about it. We have to think of ways to improve. Just working hard alone might not cut it.

I also believe we need a little bit of luck somehow. But if it doesn't come, no problem. We'll work things out ourselves. 


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: fapar on October 06, 2023, 03:28:13 PM


Back in 2018 bounty hunting was very profitable the job was very simple, participating in signature campaigns and social media campaigns on at least 4 legit projects would yield a good result, I made 10 times what I earned in my office job in a signature campaign back then.

In your case, it is greediness trading is hard work if you are not dedicated and you do not have the perseverance you will eventually lose, Lucky for you you only lose a portion, it's not yet too late you have a good chance and Bitcoin has a huge potential in the coming halving just don't do any more trading or investing in pump and dump trending project.

I’ll add that 2018-2019 was already the end of a truly profitable period in bounty campaigns. In 2016-2017, the simplest campaign (social media) gave $50-100 and you were still wondering whether to enter it or not. Even the airdrops were very good. And now the reward for 2 weeks of participation will not even cover the commission for the transfer or swap of reward tokens.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Suzume on October 06, 2023, 05:40:59 PM
You started bounty hunting in 2018. Bounty was a profitable business at that time. But with the growth of the crypto market, the number of scammers in the market has increased and bounty hunting for a lot of currency can be said to be a loss at present. Yes at that time you got success because you worked hard. But through your hard work your changed your luck . Many of us who are Muslims know that in our religion said, that luck changes through hard work, same happened to you. You mentioned trading I am not a professional trader but from my experience I can say trading is not a game of luck it totally depends on your technical analysis. Yes here you will need luck if you analyze properly then this will change your luck.
According to me man writes his destiny by his own hard work.You are still working hard for yourself which will change your destiny.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Xal0lex on October 06, 2023, 06:15:45 PM
People always tend to assume that if someone managed to make money in trading, they can do it too. No one wants to consider the risks and probabilities. Let me just remind you that more than 95% of traders lose their money, but each of these 95% somehow thinks that they belong to this group of 5% and they will succeed. The crypto market has always loved overconfident people, they are the easiest to take away money from.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: abel1337 on October 06, 2023, 06:25:03 PM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
I think that you are earning more from the trading that you do than the bounty campaign given that the payment on bounty campaign are really low nowadays. We have our own journey on cryptocurrency and I myself is happy that I discovered cryptocurrency at it's early age and learned how to make money by using it. We all have our ups and down on our journey and that what makes it an experience that will cultivate us to the near future. At least for now with the bad decision you have like not having a risk management, you learned something and that what makes it really important.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: ije07 on October 06, 2023, 07:42:22 PM
Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side.
Many people want to get into the world of trading when they see how easy it is to make money from it, so we don't realize that we have to have enough knowledge and good management when we start trading crypto, especially if market conditions are not good. , so many people lose in such deals because mentality is also at stake. And keep in mind that cryptocurrency trading is not as simple as we think, unless you are in a very lucky situation


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: lalabotax on October 06, 2023, 09:10:31 PM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years.
Exactly, I'm also not someone with high luck, so it's impossible to rely on luck to get more money from here. In fact, I have never won a lottery or just a door prize at an event in my village. ha ha ha

Because of that awareness, indeed, we need hard work to survive in this business. Hard work coupled with knowledge of cryptocurrency. So, at least we understand what we are taking here. Because the true crypto business is a high risk business. However, this is also a business that we can take advantage of and optimize. However, if we still have a monthly salary from our main job, this will actually be even better. Because we can consider our activities here as a serious sidejob.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 06, 2023, 09:30:23 PM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.

I do agree that we need to work very hard in order to make a lot of money and it's good for you. However, did you take note of how many hours to you really spend on the forum to earned that money though? I asked because it could be that you are spending so long hours here that it could be detrimental to your well being. For one, we know traders spend countless hours in their computer to analyse and make trades. In any case, if you think that you are doing well right now and takes to cryptocurrencies then good for you. But at least you need to think about "quality over quantity". So there could be time that it's better to work less and then have time to your family. At least a balance, because as you have said, you still have your regular job, a 9-5 daily job and then crypto whether trading or bounty hunter, so that will eat so much of your time already.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: _BlackStar on October 06, 2023, 09:31:19 PM
Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
Don't waste your time just promoting bounties - it's not worth it. I'm not forbidding you from doing it - but you really have to consider this advice because there are many cases where sometimes the bounty or project owner doesn't want to pay for your work just because it failed or was a scam. Learn while you have the chance - it will be much more useful for your development in this industry.

If you have a monthly salary - then you can set aside a few percent of it to invest. Trading is not always as rosy as you think - and you should not be influenced by social media influencers who display fake profits, that's bad. Learn and invest - this is a simple option to save you a lot of time from wasting it as a bounty hunter.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Yamifoud on October 06, 2023, 09:59:54 PM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
Working hard today is our assurance that there is something that we can harvest in the future. Relying our future on luck seems not will be a good idea nor that will work. I couldn't deny that bounty hunting was good in the past years but I can't imagine it still a good way to earn money this time knowing that the majority of the projects these days are scams. Now, bounties are not reliable but just a waste of time based on my experience.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 06, 2023, 10:09:01 PM
Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
Don't waste your time just promoting bounties - it's not worth it. I'm not forbidding you from doing it - but you really have to consider this advice because there are many cases where sometimes the bounty or project owner doesn't want to pay for your work just because it failed or was a scam. Learn while you have the chance - it will be much more useful for your development in this industry.

If you have a monthly salary - then you can set aside a few percent of it to invest. Trading is not always as rosy as you think - and you should not be influenced by social media influencers who display fake profits, that's bad. Learn and invest - this is a simple option to save you a lot of time from wasting it as a bounty hunter.

very rare that you can find a worthwhile bounty program these days, unless, you will go to a btc-paying campaign under a reputable campaign manager. if not accepted to one of those btc-paying campaigns, better invest your time into valuable activities, like trading, staking or offering your services that will pay valuable coins.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Xampeuu on October 07, 2023, 03:39:30 AM
trading is not to seek success in an instant, it is not only hard work that is needed in it, but smart work and emotional strength that must be strong, therefore the need for experience which cannot be done in an instant, but there are many events that are the same as that, namely a story of disappointment in the world of trading, and it is a valuable lesson for the future so that we can correct the mistakes we have made


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Dr.Osh on October 07, 2023, 06:35:40 AM
I also had almost the same experience. However, I feel that whatever income I get from the internet, I need to have a real business, or a real job that can provide me with a steady income every month. Maybe, for some people who have been successful in building their business, they no longer need work like that because they are the ones who pay their employees. However, for people who are just starting to build their business, working hard is something that needs to be done and does not depend on luck. Even when we have a greater income than our main job, we need our main job to provide us with a monthly income, as well as being our main place when the other jobs we have don't produce any more income.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: bounceback on October 07, 2023, 07:20:42 AM
If you have a regular job then you should focus on your main job and when you have free time then do some airdrops and bounties on the side, trading with Crypto is not as easy as we imagine and sometimes some professional traders indeed they can make thousands of dollars in a short time when trading, but it will be very different when we try it, especially if we don't have a deeper understanding then what we have to experience is not profit but loss.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Rupok on October 07, 2023, 02:51:27 PM
Bounties don't make good money these days, most bounties are unreliable now and don't pay as well as they did in 2018.  Between 2018 and 2020 I was able to earn pretty good money from bounty but nowadays it never becomes possible to make that money.  Most of the bounty still gets scams.  Earlier it was golden time for bounty so I thought to change my life with   bounty but that didn't become possible because it is very difficult to earn money from bounty now. Nothing good can be expected until the golden opportunity of Bounty returns.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: radjie on October 07, 2023, 06:00:28 PM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.

Crypto trading or working as a bounty hunter should not be a primary source of income.  This certainly cannot stabilize one's economy.  It's best to use your free time to get involved in this industry, do other work that already has a certain income every month, don't be too ambitious to have more money from the crypto and don't leave your main job in real life.
Even though everyone has the opportunity to be successful in this industry, you must always understand the risks


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: _BlackStar on October 07, 2023, 06:30:53 PM
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very rare that you can find a worthwhile bounty program these days, unless, you will go to a btc-paying campaign under a reputable campaign manager. if not accepted to one of those btc-paying campaigns, better invest your time into valuable activities, like trading, staking or offering your services that will pay valuable coins.
Of course I realize that - that's why I hope beginners who want to grow on this forum can invest more time in learning rather than hoping for a few dollars from a bounty campaign. It's obvious that the work they do isn't worth the pay they get paid - unless they have dozens of alts.

Bitcoin payout campaigns are reliable because the payouts are clear - but beginners should not make that their main goal on this forum. They have to learn many things and invest their time in various useful things that might make them grow day by day. This isn't wise advice - but it should be helpful to those growing and learning on the forum.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Beparanf on October 07, 2023, 06:58:44 PM
After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years.


What kind of office job you are doing that makes you earned less for 10 years of working compared to your 3 years of bounty hunting while bounty campaigns are worthless even during 2018 when you started since most of them are scam or low pay rate. Unless you are doing a menial job that gives you a profit less than a penny then bounty campaigns is really worth a shot. But it’s better to focus on a job that gives you guaranteed salary every month instead of relying to campaign that doesn’t assure you payment once finish.

I’m not sure either how you can say this testimony while bounty campaigns market becomes a total useless since the year you start doing it unless you are abusing most of the campaigns with thousands of your alt account to get a decent share to a small bounty pool.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Xal0lex on October 07, 2023, 06:59:55 PM
Bounties don't make good money these days, most bounties are unreliable now and don't pay as well as they did in 2018.  Between 2018 and 2020 I was able to earn pretty good money from bounty but nowadays it never becomes possible to make that money.  Most of the bounty still gets scams.  Earlier it was golden time for bounty so I thought to change my life with   bounty but that didn't become possible because it is very difficult to earn money from bounty now. Nothing good can be expected until the golden opportunity of Bounty returns.

Bounty died a long time ago, at least 4 years ago. Now the crypto industry is dominated by another form of earning tokens, these are retrodrops and testnets. In 2021 it was a very generous industry, but this happiness did not last long. Now the space is occupied by big sybil farms and it's extremely hard for a simple user to compete for a place in the sun and get their stakes. Perhaps in 2 years this form of giving out new tokens will also suffer the fate of the bounty.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: bitgolden on October 07, 2023, 07:49:40 PM
If you have a regular job then you should focus on your main job and when you have free time then do some airdrops and bounties on the side, trading with Crypto is not as easy as we imagine and sometimes some professional traders indeed they can make thousands of dollars in a short time when trading, but it will be very different when we try it, especially if we don't have a deeper understanding then what we have to experience is not profit but loss.
I would say even in that case bounties and airdrops are mostly empty promises and you should try to stay away from them as much as you possibly could. Not a lot of people realizes this but 99.99% of those projects are just people with absolutely no money, creating a token, hoping that distributing some of that token would make it worth something, cause them to get funded, and then they will have some money to actually build it, if the token doesn't get funded then they are not going to get any further and just quit. That's literally 99.99% of the things we are doing at this moment and it should not be all that interesting to see.

I believe that we are going to be doing anything that would be out of ordinary at all, and hope that we could just avoid them if we do not want to waste our time.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Shamm on October 07, 2023, 08:46:16 PM
if truly wanna gain success you should have balance of the two, you can be hard working all this century and have nothing.
thats what most unfortunate people are having right now, so much hard work but nothing in return because they working at place where salary is minimal, with luck if you happen to be in good country with high salary you're settled.

Nowadys hard work is good but like what you said mate it's nothing to do when we are so hardworking but the salary is minimal so that's the reason why other choose to  (WORK SMARTER THAN WORK HARDER)  which means they will find another source of income like selling  or else investing in order to have an extra money. Cause if we stick to a minimum salary then we will not grow unless the salary will increase abig amount .


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: taufik123 on October 07, 2023, 09:00:04 PM
Bounty died a long time ago, at least 4 years ago. Now the crypto industry is dominated by another form of earning tokens, these are retrodrops and testnets. In 2021 it was a very generous industry, but this happiness did not last long. Now the space is occupied by big sybil farms and it's extremely hard for a simple user to compete for a place in the sun and get their stakes. Perhaps in 2 years this form of giving out new tokens will also suffer the fate of the bounty.
LOL. I have a lot of good memories with Bounty, probably thousands of dollars that I got while working on many Bounty campaigns.
Starting from social media campaigns, Articles, as a translator, and some big airdrops like eBitcoin that I never even forgot.

Now the era has changed, Bounty campaigns like in the past have ended and no longer provide a commensurate income.
But for those who are still active in bounty campaigns, it might be a lesson to work on their first farm.

Now Airdrops that provide incentives such as Uniswap, ENS, Optimism, Arbitrum, and some tesnets provide quite large amounts as well.
Now competing with many people, but of course, everything will have its time.
It's just a matter of time, then the way to get more money will be different again.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 07, 2023, 09:34:04 PM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.

Unfortunately especially in this section, altcoins, luck has a lot to do with it.  Look at every bullring and check out what has pumped and what hasn't.  Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason why something succeeds and other better projects don't.  In my experience with altcoins its the projects that market themselves the best as the ones who succeed.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: flipme on October 07, 2023, 10:37:54 PM
Life puts some opportunities in front of all of us. Sometimes we use them well and sometimes we use them badly. But, no matter what, life always continues to give chances to those who work hard. In my early years when I was interested in cryptocurrencies, I didn't make the best use of many opportunities. However, as I gained experience, I learned better what to do. I hope we all make the right decisions throughout our lives and continue to catch new opportunities.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: TribalBob on October 07, 2023, 10:41:59 PM
If you see your neighbor's grass is greener, that's natural, it's just that we don't know how the neighbor can take care of it, the same goes for trading in crypto, I'm just like you, sometimes confused as to why people can be, even though we've taken the same steps as However, it all comes down to patience and luck, if it works for real it can give optimal results, continue and you can still invest in Bitcoin


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: JeffBrad12 on October 07, 2023, 10:46:31 PM
Bounties don't make good money these days, most bounties are unreliable now and don't pay as well as they did in 2018.  Between 2018 and 2020 I was able to earn pretty good money from bounty but nowadays it never becomes possible to make that money.  Most of the bounty still gets scams.  Earlier it was golden time for bounty so I thought to change my life with   bounty but that didn't become possible because it is very difficult to earn money from bounty now. Nothing good can be expected until the golden opportunity of Bounty returns.
well I guess golden opportunity only arise when bullrun is coming, but honestly there's no guarantee bounty gonna gets revived since everything right now already focused on retroactive and all about contributing to the blockchain.
moreover the fact that many devs uses platform like galxe or something like that since they quite literally could get away by just giving some useless NFT makes them favour it more.
its just overall bad situation for bounties in general thats why investing is best idea nowadays.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: D ltr on October 07, 2023, 11:02:46 PM
Financial management and risk should be mutual, but we don't realize that we ignore both of them for the sake of satisfaction and greed to see big money, the crypto cycle really makes conditions unstable, especially if we invest in the wrong coins, our money could be lost forever.
luck is the main factor in crypto when trading


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: chaser15 on October 07, 2023, 11:08:23 PM
Good for you then that you are having a good time now. Keep it up.

Definitely hard work pays but it's better to work wise than to work hard.

There are unfortunate people who are doing their very best at their work but still not enough. What's lacking in them? What I'm saying is, just be grateful that you aren't experiencing a worse financial situation like them. Love your work, love your career, and don't do stupid things along the way.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: usekevin on October 07, 2023, 11:53:32 PM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.

If you had earned money from the lottery,it’s better to start the business with the winning money.You can also start the trading which gives you good return,if you spend some time for the analysis for the trading.Some people use the offline business using their winning money from the lottery.But the important factor is they need to understand the business before starting the business.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: strunberg on October 08, 2023, 03:36:50 AM


If you had earned money from the lottery,it’s better to start the business with the winning money.You can also start the trading which gives you good return,if you spend some time for the analysis for the trading.Some people use the offline business using their winning money from the lottery.But the important factor is they need to understand the business before starting the business.

The OP said that he lost his money after making a few trades because he saw other people making thousands of dollars from it. I think this is an experience that should be a lesson for everyone. I prefer to use the money from bounty hunters to open an offline business that I already master. Performing trade analysis is fundamental for people who want to make thousands of dollars from crypto. But using capital from bounty hunters to increase offline business capital is the best option in my opinion.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: angrybirdy on October 08, 2023, 05:57:54 AM


If you had earned money from the lottery,it’s better to start the business with the winning money.You can also start the trading which gives you good return,if you spend some time for the analysis for the trading.Some people use the offline business using their winning money from the lottery.But the important factor is they need to understand the business before starting the business.

The OP said that he lost his money after making a few trades because he saw other people making thousands of dollars from it. I think this is an experience that should be a lesson for everyone. I prefer to use the money from bounty hunters to open an offline business that I already master. Performing trade analysis is fundamental for people who want to make thousands of dollars from crypto. But using capital from bounty hunters to increase offline business capital is the best option in my opinion.
The mistake OP made surely happened to a lot of people in the crypto space. Seeing other people doing trading and start doing it also without even trying to learn or analyze how they do that. They simply go with how they see the market and just do trading without experience or knowledge. That's why building a business would be better but the same as trading, there's also a risk in that field, you have to study different kinds of things and other things you should consider before you start your own business but the better option to make your money grow.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: inthelongrun on October 08, 2023, 07:14:37 AM
I say hard work pays but hard work with luck pays a lot. I guess money coming from luck is easy to lose as well. Either we get greedy or we become blinded and then forget to plan well on how to spend and make it grow. That's what happened to me some years ago. I was lucky to invest almost all of my savings in crypto last 2017. It turned into something huge that I never imagined. I also thought that the market would continue the same trend. In the end, I lost nearly all of its value when I sold them when bitcoin was in the $3k range fearing it might drop more.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: 0t3p0t on October 08, 2023, 09:45:43 AM
Bounty hunting is like you are hunting for luck as we all know that Bounty campaigns won't guarantee that we get the jackpot. I got lucky with bounty hunting as well way back in 2017. I earned tens of thousands of dollars on that year and then hodl some of the tokens the next year which plummet. I came to bounty hunting again this time in the hope of having the luck I wanted to have one more time. I know it is not instant but I am patient to wait for the right time again and again. They say work smart not hard.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: KingsDen on October 08, 2023, 10:11:16 AM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.

Success is greatly tired to hard work and not luck. The place of luck in acquiring wealth is very infinitesimal and only less than 5% succeeds through luck. I have learnt that the only way to earn more money is to work hard to increase your earnings either by taking more jobs or by increasing your investment.
In your own case, someone doing bounty hunting is working hard, someone trading cryptocurrency the right way is working hard, someone working for a tech company is also working hard, so you being successful is not a surprise to anyone and your success wasn't achieved over night.

This is the reason I do not always support people that drags bounty hunters. In as much as they are doing it the right way which supports the forum rules, I am cook with it.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on October 08, 2023, 10:14:36 AM
Bounty hunters who worked in 2019 to 2022 earned a very good month andbI know some members of my local boards who claimed they earned more than 6000$ in just one years. Some bounty pays 1k$ for just one video. actually its depends upon how much token price change. I doesn't like most of new manager bounties because most of them ended without payment.
You lost in trading because you didn't learned first before diving into it. bounty and trading both are different. In case of bounty fail you will not loss money while in trading you will loss your money. You are lucky that didn't lost all and you stop trading after you realize that you cannot make profit without knowledge.
Hardwork is necessary in every field but sometime luck favor one and make him millionaire in very short time. People who buys btc in earlier stage makes lot of money which an ordinary hardworking man cannot even think about it


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Silberman on October 08, 2023, 10:15:32 AM
I say hard work pays but hard work with luck pays a lot. I guess money coming from luck is easy to lose as well. Either we get greedy or we become blinded and then forget to plan well on how to spend and make it grow. That's what happened to me some years ago. I was lucky to invest almost all of my savings in crypto last 2017. It turned into something huge that I never imagined. I also thought that the market would continue the same trend. In the end, I lost nearly all of its value when I sold them when bitcoin was in the $3k range fearing it might drop more.
It is a combination of factors, a hard working person can still fail if luck goes completely against them, however if luck does not affect them then they can still reach success as long as they can keep this hardworking attitude for a long time, however if you combine hard work and good luck then a massive amount of money will most likely follow, now most of us fall into the second scenario and this is why it is a must to work hard, as otherwise it will be impossible to reach the success we want for ourselves.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on October 08, 2023, 02:54:31 PM

Crypto trading or working as a bounty hunter should not be a primary source of income.  This certainly cannot stabilize one's economy.  It's best to use your free time to get involved in this industry, do other work that already has a certain income every month, don't be too ambitious to have more money from the crypto and don't leave your main job in real life.
Even though everyone has the opportunity to be successful in this industry, you must always understand the risks
Yes it is not right to make money from crypto trading or bounty as a profession. I think we can start trading with some money from the money we get every month from our job or business. But we can't always profit from trading  .So we have to work side by side with trading. But I think trading is not for newbies, those who trade in new situations lose money most of the time. So we have to think before trading and start trading.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: danherbias07 on October 08, 2023, 02:58:51 PM
That's true and a real story for me. I gained a lot of money in the ICO days too with bounties and I even helped the project manager of a certain project to point out the cheaters who are using duplicate amounts. It worked well for me too because the division of the bounty prize got lesser whenever I reported those cheaters. I don't want to hear thanks to anyone, I did it also for myself and I can say I worked hard also at looking out for those users that are cheating the program. I never regret doing that because that's the right thing to do and I will do it again even if it's hard work that no one would ever thank you afterwards.
Now that there are not many ICO projects coming out I just use my spare time here in the forum but I do miss those days when I was very aggressive at taking down those who cheat.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: doomloop on October 08, 2023, 06:20:23 PM
Really no one knows about the future, when getting to know the world of crypto, I used to get big money every month but somehow the money ran out without me realizing it. So quickly I returned to being an office worker, and in 2020 I started again looking for money as a bounty and airdrop hunter and now I can get enough income. but the job of a hunter is only a side job not to be the main one, in every crypto world there are bull and bear seasons making the choice of an office job the main one. because being a simple person is more comfortable not offending your neighbors
It is uncertain. The only best thing that we can do is to prepare for it, so that when negativity comes we can combat it easily or we won't worry. Your crypto story is great mate and I'm curious if what is that activity you are talkin about. I don't think we don't realize it when we spend our money recklessly. We know it but we got carried away by our emotions and we can only regret it at the end.

The status of bounty and airdrop are I think not as bright as before. You better change careers. Try something like trading or investing, as these two are not seasonal or only just a trend. There are only bears and bulls cycle but we can still use both as an advantage.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Mpamaegbu on October 09, 2023, 04:38:42 AM
In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years.
I'm not sure we're ever going to have that moment again. It's the bubble era when ICOs were the thing. This day it seems bounty hunting is hurting those who participate in them by managers and projects reneging to pay rewards at the end of the bounty.

Again OP, addressing the generality of your thread, I'm of the opinion that hard-work doesn't pay. It's smart-wok that pays; even smart-work still needs a dint of luck to make it come through. Gone were the days when our ancestors told us that crap of hard-work paying off. People have to think smart to make it work and earn. If hard-work pays, those who lift heavy objects as part of their job specifications should be the ones earning big and not those in the office, thumbing on computers or scribbling on papers.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Josefjix on October 09, 2023, 11:30:41 AM
I say hard work pays but hard work with luck pays a lot. I guess money coming from luck is easy to lose as well. Either we get greedy or we become blinded and then forget to plan well on how to spend and make it grow. That's what happened to me some years ago. I was lucky to invest almost all of my savings in crypto last 2017. It turned into something huge that I never imagined. I also thought that the market would continue the same trend. In the end, I lost nearly all of its value when I sold them when bitcoin was in the $3k range fearing it might drop more.
We lived everyday and experience new scenario in the system. Cryptocurrency is risky, is better and safer to keep this at the back of our mind before scouting projects to invest on, we shouldn't be too impressed ot desperate to expects results because it can turned on us anytime. What I can emphasize is that, I've experienced terrible circumstances in crypto space and I've learnt my lesson. Hardwork pays but luck is the one thing that fueled up Hardwork. Composing these two attributes together in the space will do great aides in the system, we just have to keep steady flow of income and innovating multiple streams inother to keep earning.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Victorik on October 09, 2023, 12:44:05 PM
Well I won't completely agree with you on this. The truth is that though hard work pays, but sometimes in life it is not all who work very hard end up becoming successful. There's always an element of luck sometimes,.you need o understand that. You could be an OG and have all the fundamental, technical analysis knowledge, and yet a newbie with little TA & FA knowledge may just be lucky to ape into a project very early and make millions that you as an OG could not even possibly thought of making.



Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: uneng on October 09, 2023, 01:06:15 PM
I also worked as faucet hunter many years ago, and I think it paid well after all... The point is that I wasn't hunting altcoins, but mainly focused on Bitcoin. It's not about being lucky or working hard (exclusively), rather it's about focusing your time and effort on promising and realistic things which will become valuable in the future. Back then I was making 0.001BTC daily only from faucets, which didn't price much, but when we compare to currently rates it's about 30$ daily. So it totally worthed as a long term saving account, much superior to any fiat investment opportunities available.

Even if you are working as bounty hunter it's not that bad, since you convert your earnings to BTC or a strong altcoin after you are paid. Don't hold worthless tokens and coins and you may see further financial progress along the time.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: JeffBrad12 on October 09, 2023, 01:21:40 PM
Well I won't completely agree with you on this. The truth is that though hard work pays, but sometimes in life it is not all who work very hard end up becoming successful. There's always an element of luck sometimes,.you need o understand that. You could be an OG and have all the fundamental, technical analysis knowledge, and yet a newbie with little TA & FA knowledge may just be lucky to ape into a project very early and make millions that you as an OG could not even possibly thought of making.


hard work combined with bad luck is just bankruptcy, thats why I think luck have quite big role in determining someone's success, you can't be just getting the best opportunity out there without any luck.
with bad luck doesn't matter how hard you work and try, even if you put all your life into it, if you're unlucky then you're unlucky no excuses.
im always firm believer that luck does indeed bring about many people success.
its just never elaborated further because some people who have gained success too embarassed to admit it that luck definitely affect their success.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Yatsan on October 09, 2023, 04:37:12 PM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
You already have the knowledge about this industry and you just have to enrich it. Trading is a different thing from participating with Bounties ‘coz you’d be using your money to generate more. Being careless would cost you so much. Will and luck alone won’t give you success it should be a combination of these two plus dedication to learn the market behavior. Good traders did not make it in a single day or month; in some cases it took them years before becoming a profitable trader. Even with experienced investors, they are suffering from loss. Hardwork would put you somewhere far from your present status indeed but putting your heart into it would take you to the best route.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Xal0lex on October 09, 2023, 05:25:56 PM
Bounty died a long time ago, at least 4 years ago. Now the crypto industry is dominated by another form of earning tokens, these are retrodrops and testnets. In 2021 it was a very generous industry, but this happiness did not last long. Now the space is occupied by big sybil farms and it's extremely hard for a simple user to compete for a place in the sun and get their stakes. Perhaps in 2 years this form of giving out new tokens will also suffer the fate of the bounty.
LOL. I have a lot of good memories with Bounty, probably thousands of dollars that I got while working on many Bounty campaigns.
Starting from social media campaigns, Articles, as a translator, and some big airdrops like eBitcoin that I never even forgot.

2016-2018 was a good time for the Bounty, there were some very generous campaigns.

Now Airdrops that provide incentives such as Uniswap, ENS, Optimism, Arbitrum, and some tesnets provide quite large amounts as well.
Now competing with many people, but of course, everything will have its time.
It's just a matter of time, then the way to get more money will be different again.

Everything in the crypto industry is constantly transforming and changing. What was relevant yesterday will be useless tomorrow. It is possible to make money in the crypto space only if the user constantly monitors new trends and narratives, otherwise at some point the usual activities will be a waste of time.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Victorik on October 10, 2023, 06:15:50 AM
Well I won't completely agree with you on this. The truth is that though hard work pays, but sometimes in life it is not all who work very hard end up becoming successful. There's always an element of luck sometimes,.you need o understand that. You could be an OG and have all the fundamental, technical analysis knowledge, and yet a newbie with little TA & FA knowledge may just be lucky to ape into a project very early and make millions that you as an OG could not even possibly thought of making.


hard work combined with bad luck is just bankruptcy, thats why I think luck have quite big role in determining someone's success, you can't be just getting the best opportunity out there without any luck.
with bad luck doesn't matter how hard you work and try, even if you put all your life into it, if you're unlucky then you're unlucky no excuses.
im always firm believer that luck does indeed bring about many people success.
its just never elaborated further because some people who have gained success too embarassed to admit it that luck definitely affect their success.

Yea. Hardwork plus bad luck always ends in frustrations. Most of the successful people out there will admit that besides that they work hard, they were just lucky.
Even if follow through on he template for success, work hard tiredness on it, it might still not guarantee your success. Luck is a factor that must be factor into the equation of success.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Silberman on October 12, 2023, 10:44:08 AM
Well I won't completely agree with you on this. The truth is that though hard work pays, but sometimes in life it is not all who work very hard end up becoming successful. There's always an element of luck sometimes,.you need o understand that. You could be an OG and have all the fundamental, technical analysis knowledge, and yet a newbie with little TA & FA knowledge may just be lucky to ape into a project very early and make millions that you as an OG could not even possibly thought of making.


hard work combined with bad luck is just bankruptcy, thats why I think luck have quite big role in determining someone's success, you can't be just getting the best opportunity out there without any luck.
with bad luck doesn't matter how hard you work and try, even if you put all your life into it, if you're unlucky then you're unlucky no excuses.
im always firm believer that luck does indeed bring about many people success.
its just never elaborated further because some people who have gained success too embarassed to admit it that luck definitely affect their success.
Your luck without a doubt plays a major factor, since often someone that reached a high level of success cannot really explain and teach to others how they did it, so even they do not understand how they got where they are, still one of the things with luck is that it comes and goes, so if you had a period of your life in which everything seemed to happen in the exact way to destroy your plans, you can be sure that this cannot last for long and at some moment this will stop and your hard work will eventually let you to achieve a moderate level of success.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: rojan on October 13, 2023, 03:03:58 PM
If you had earned money from the lottery,it’s better to start the business with the winning money.You can also start the trading which gives you good return,if you spend some time for the analysis for the trading.Some people use the offline business using their winning money from the lottery.But the important factor is they need to understand the business before starting the business.
If someone wants to start a business in the first phase, he must have a good idea about the business. When starting a business in a new phase, he may have to overcome many problems. But I believe that doing business will not be easy for everyone. Again, if you do business properly.  It will be very easy for him. To own a lot of money in a short period of time it is very important to do business as well as to have a good idea about business.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 13, 2023, 09:44:01 PM
....Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
I really believe this, hard work will always pay, no matter when, no matter how long, but if we have tried hard, to the maximum, and according to the path, then believe me, we will get the results someday. Along the way, we will definitely encounter failure, disappointment, depression, and various other emotions, but as long as we don't give up and keep trying, in the sense that it is not an effort without foundation and knowledge, then we believe that one day we will be able to reap the results.

If someone says that success is luck, this may only be a small percentage compared to the hard work that has been done so far. However, only at an unexpected moment does he succeed, but in reality, it is possible that he has actually struggled a lot before. And finally he got the results at that moment. However, if we only dream about it based on luck alone, never mind, it won't work.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Victorik on October 14, 2023, 07:19:33 AM
Well I won't completely agree with you on this. The truth is that though hard work pays, but sometimes in life it is not all who work very hard end up becoming successful. There's always an element of luck sometimes,.you need o understand that. You could be an OG and have all the fundamental, technical analysis knowledge, and yet a newbie with little TA & FA knowledge may just be lucky to ape into a project very early and make millions that you as an OG could not even possibly thought of making.


hard work combined with bad luck is just bankruptcy, thats why I think luck have quite big role in determining someone's success, you can't be just getting the best opportunity out there without any luck.
with bad luck doesn't matter how hard you work and try, even if you put all your life into it, if you're unlucky then you're unlucky no excuses.
im always firm believer that luck does indeed bring about many people success.
its just never elaborated further because some people who have gained success too embarassed to admit it that luck definitely affect their success.
Your luck without a doubt plays a major factor, since often someone that reached a high level of success cannot really explain and teach to others how they did it, so even they do not understand how they got where they are, still one of the things with luck is that it comes and goes, so if you had a period of your life in which everything seemed to happen in the exact way to destroy your plans, you can be sure that this cannot last for long and at some moment this will stop and your hard work will eventually let you to achieve a moderate level of success.

True. Even People like Warren Buffet, Bill gates Jeff Bezos,  etc who we all know as billionaires come together and come up with a template on how to become like them, I can guarantee you that not everyone who follows that template will become successful.  There's a place for luck and taking advantage of opportunities when they come.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: boty on October 14, 2023, 09:09:42 AM
If you had earned money from the lottery,it’s better to start the business with the winning money.You can also start the trading which gives you good return,if you spend some time for the analysis for the trading.Some people use the offline business using their winning money from the lottery.But the important factor is they need to understand the business before starting the business.
If someone wants to start a business in the first phase, he must have a good idea about the business. When starting a business in a new phase, he may have to overcome many problems. But I believe that doing business will not be easy for everyone. Again, if you do business properly.  It will be very easy for him. To own a lot of money in a short period of time it is very important to do business as well as to have a good idea about business.
Everyone who wants to start a business has many things that they need to prepare to be able to make the business they build run well and most importantly, if the business they start runs into problems then we have to be able to solve them so that the business we build can continue to run. It is true that everyone who can run their business well certainly has many benefits from the business and of course they have gone through various processes so they can enjoy the results of their business.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: dain28hf8 on October 14, 2023, 09:36:55 AM
You have a very good job, and you should maintain it. If you have some spare time, consider investing a bit in cryptocurrencies. Look for good projects to buy into this year, and by 2024, you'll likely have a profit.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Silberman on October 15, 2023, 08:20:01 AM
....Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
I really believe this, hard work will always pay, no matter when, no matter how long, but if we have tried hard, to the maximum, and according to the path, then believe me, we will get the results someday. Along the way, we will definitely encounter failure, disappointment, depression, and various other emotions, but as long as we don't give up and keep trying, in the sense that it is not an effort without foundation and knowledge, then we believe that one day we will be able to reap the results.

If someone says that success is luck, this may only be a small percentage compared to the hard work that has been done so far. However, only at an unexpected moment does he succeed, but in reality, it is possible that he has actually struggled a lot before. And finally he got the results at that moment. However, if we only dream about it based on luck alone, never mind, it won't work.
You are right on your assumptions, however very few people are going to have the necessary patience to keep trying to obtain the success they want when circumstances go against them, and if we add that now many people believe that success will simply come to them without working hard for it, and that simply by existing everything should be handed to them then the drive to succeed is slowly disappearing, a thing that allows us to explain why investing in meme coins is so popular while bitcoin is losing its appeal to a younger audience.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: el kaka22 on October 15, 2023, 05:41:22 PM
I mean when you have a good job that you love doing, then it shouldn't come as a surprise that you are going to earn a lot. Hard work happens only when you like your job, just the other night I worked until 2-3 am at least, maybe a bit more, because I was out during the day and I still didn't skip my day. Because I love my job and when you do love it like that then hard work feels easy. Think about it, assume that you are a gamer for example, you like playing games, you can play for 10 hours a day without ever getting bored, and someone pays you 1k dollars a month to do that (good money where I live) wouldn't you do that? That is just one example, people do that as a hobby, if you could make it as an income that would be lovely.

And just like OP mentions, signature campaigns and bounties do give some good return sometimes, sometimes not so much but that meant that people could make some good returns if they work hard and that is a good thing for them.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Blitzboy on October 16, 2023, 12:35:09 PM
I mean when you have a good job that you love doing, then it shouldn't come as a surprise that you are going to earn a lot. Hard work happens only when you like your job, just the other night I worked until 2-3 am at least, maybe a bit more, because I was out during the day and I still didn't skip my day. Because I love my job and when you do love it like that then hard work feels easy. Think about it, assume that you are a gamer for example, you like playing games, you can play for 10 hours a day without ever getting bored, and someone pays you 1k dollars a month to do that (good money where I live) wouldn't you do that? That is just one example, people do that as a hobby, if you could make it as an income that would be lovely.

And just like OP mentions, signature campaigns and bounties do give some good return sometimes, sometimes not so much but that meant that people could make some good returns if they work hard and that is a good thing for them.
Look, loving your job is one aspect, but ensuring it brings tangible returns is a whole different ball game. Theres a certain strategy and mindset, rooted deeply in human behavior and professional investing, thats essential. Passion without financial literacy is like a car without fuel. You mention working late nights and drawing parallels with gamers. Its a great example, but what happens when the gamer faces market saturation? Or when newer, younger gamers enter the scene?

Its essential to critically evaluate where our time and effort are going. Are you just working hard or are you working smart? Are you evolving, adapting, and learning the intricacies of your profession and the industry? You talk about transforming hobbies into income, and yes, while thats the dream, one should never get so lost in passion that they forget the cutthroat nature of the professional world.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Maestro75 on October 16, 2023, 03:12:22 PM

Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich. It is this luck that alot of youths depend on now and that has made so many of them to be lazy. It has led to them wasting their lives and time in idleness instead of getting a job. At the end when this youths discover it is getting late to reposition and make something for themselves, they turn to crime because of desperation. Hardwork can not succeed without luck.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: KingsDen on October 16, 2023, 03:31:34 PM

Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich.

Where did you hear this gospel from. It is totally made out of error and very misleading. I beg you not to spread this type of statement to gullible minds. There is nothing like luck in wealth creation and there is nothing like someone is destined to be rich. It is purely a fallacy that was devised to deceive people.
So, by your definition of being destined to be rich without hard work, you mean that if I am destined to be rich but I do not take up any job and I didn't acquire any skills. I remain at home from January till December, I will still be rich?

Of course this should be the mindset of some gamblers I see in the local bear pallor. The only way to be rich is to work hard and take many jobs, or investment wisely or learn more skills to earn more money.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Xal0lex on October 16, 2023, 04:25:45 PM

Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich. It is this luck that alot of youths depend on now and that has made so many of them to be lazy. It has led to them wasting their lives and time in idleness instead of getting a job. At the end when this youths discover it is getting late to reposition and make something for themselves, they turn to crime because of desperation. Hardwork can not succeed without luck.

It's too naive to talk about fate. Man is the creator of his own happiness without any fate and destiny. This is usually used by various losers to justify their defeat, as if it was fated and so is fate. In fact, everything depends on the person, not on some mythical fate. You can make money in cryptocurrency with knowledge and luck, but it is very difficult to keep that money for a long time. Those who are lucky enough to earn a large sum of money once, later mismanage these assets and lose everything.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: shadidalam0912zx on October 16, 2023, 10:32:28 PM
Working hard pays off, but being too confident can lead to losing money. Having a steady job is crucial for financial security. Learning from your mistakes and managing your money wisely are the keys to a better financial future.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: lienfaye on October 17, 2023, 02:02:22 AM
Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
It's good that you have a main job. Hence even you lost some of what you gained before, still, you're able to overcome it since you still have other source to earn money. Anyway, regardless of what you do to earn in crypto, it's always better to use your knowledge and skills. Relying solely on luck can't bring any good fortune since you can't influence the result.

Therefore, do something to change it. If you have a goal that you want to achieve, then work on it. In addition, it's more satisfying to achieve something because of your hard work and not because you just waited for luck to hit you.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: wajik-tempe on October 17, 2023, 03:58:17 AM
Your tale emphasizes the significance of a balanced approach to finances. Your experience as a bounty hunter and dabbling in cryptocurrency trading demonstrate that, while taking risks might result in substantial earnings, it's also critical to retain a consistent income through your tech work. Learning from past failures, particularly in risk management, is an invaluable lesson. To assure a better financial future, it is critical to work hard and commit yourself, as you indicated, but also to be judicious with your profits. The secret to success is balancing ambition with financial responsibility.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Chato1977 on October 17, 2023, 04:46:20 AM
I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
I don't know what trading means to you but even when you hold that means trading also but a Long term .
So even when you are keeping your shitcoins from bounties that is already a trade, and if you mean that you saw your earning from Bounty hunting gives you more than 10 years of office work? means have you converted them to fiat or Stable coin? or Bitcoin > because those act are already trading.
what I am saying here is that you only come to greedy attitude and lose, but that doesn't mean trading will not  bring you relief.
because one way or another? still short term trade is the most profitable .


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: GeorgeJohn on October 17, 2023, 06:24:16 AM
Let me say concentration in any act of work makes the work to come out fully, because their is something I notice quite well in hard work, even their is a work you give hundred percent of your attention but the work will not be prosperous, the success of a job or work is the direction of God and even in trading you have to at least understand the rudiments and couple with luck.

I'm aware that all works needed attention for it to be successful, using trading as illustration, in trading you have to learn and devote out time to ensure that you have mastered some certain things that can cause a hindrance or obstacles in trading, before you can be able to achieve success in trading.

That is while I encourage some of us not to look at what someone has done and because of it you go directly to same thing when you have not know the foundation of such very well, their is things you should have known concerning trading and investment, you can be lucky in trading and maybe you are not lucky in investment despite your engagement.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Maestro75 on October 17, 2023, 03:38:25 PM

Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich.

Where did you hear this gospel from. It is totally made out of error and very misleading. I beg you not to spread this type of statement to gullible minds. There is nothing like luck in wealth creation and there is nothing like someone is destined to be rich. It is purely a fallacy that was devised to deceive people.

Stop acting that you have not seen it in action before. What about those who hit jackpot at casinos without knowing what they spinned? What about those who bought bitcoin that year without knowing what happened or what it was? Was it all of them who bought then without knowing what bitcoin was who still have their bitcoins till date? Some of those who sold early are they rich from it today? Did they not do the same thing as those who bought then and still kept their own till today because of fate and luck?  Whatever you say or do make sure you think of that element of luck. You are not what you are today because you are more hardworking than others. You are not in the BestChange campaign today because you worked harder than others that applied then or had the best posts but you were lucky. Have you seen that luck effect now?


Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich. It is this luck that alot of youths depend on now and that has made so many of them to be lazy. It has led to them wasting their lives and time in idleness instead of getting a job. At the end when this youths discover it is getting late to reposition and make something for themselves, they turn to crime because of desperation. Hardwork can not succeed without luck.

It's too naive to talk about fate. Man is the creator of his own happiness without any fate and destiny. This is usually used by various losers to justify their defeat, as if it was fated and so is fate. In fact, everything depends on the person, not on some mythical fate. You can make money in cryptocurrency with knowledge and luck, but it is very difficult to keep that money for a long time. Those who are lucky enough to earn a large sum of money once, later mismanage these assets and lose everything.

You say it is naive to talk about fate but you agreed that luck exists. What is luck if it is not fate?


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Kelvinid on October 17, 2023, 09:13:54 PM
Luck is not the way to become rich or just to say, a way to improve our living but also, it needs hard work. Our lives are not gambling where we just rely on luck which means that in order to survive and be able to reach our goal, then we must consider pushing ourselves to do that.
But I see this thing that usually happens to those people who think that luck could be the answer to their dreams - that is those who keep spending a lot of money on gambling.

As I compared to businessmen, they become rich as they are working hard and spend a lot of time in their business. Because we can just sit down and become rich because we are a lucky person, that is really impossible.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 17, 2023, 10:25:11 PM
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Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
Well, it's good that you don't treat bounty campaigns as your primary job because there are some here who are spending their time sharing tweets in Twitter, or in Facebook then post it here, and in the end, they will earn a few bucks. A few bucks worth of their weeks of time promoting that project. Not worth it TBH. I guess you're lucky enough at this moment to earn enough money that it surpassed your projected 10-year salary in your primary job.

You said that you need to work hard, and with dedication. For me, working hard alone is useless if you aren't smart. I know working hard is good, but working hard, and smart is better. Just imagine you working hard for 8 hours a day only to earn a minimum daily wage compare to a person who is working only a few hours a day in front of his computer, and earning way higher than the minimum daily wage. Sometimes in life, working alone isn't good enough for you to be efficient in life. Working hard "AND" smart would lead you to a successful life. LUCK?? Forget about it. :)


Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck.
Destiny?  :D :D


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Oasisman on October 17, 2023, 11:26:17 PM

Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich. It is this luck that alot of youths depend on now and that has made so many of them to be lazy. It has led to them wasting their lives and time in idleness instead of getting a job. At the end when this youths discover it is getting late to reposition and make something for themselves, they turn to crime because of desperation. Hardwork can not succeed without luck.

If what you mean about destined to become rich is being born from a rich parents, then ok that surely exist but eventually you will still need to work hard when your time comes to take over your parents business and wealth to at least maintain them or improve whatever wealth you have currently.
However, if what you mean is someone is destined to be rich, well, that person still needs to work hard and work smart for him meet that destiny.
Rich people are businessmen in majority, and businesses needs more effort and focus than being an employee of a company. So, that means you need to work hard. I don't quite understand what you mean about destined to become rich without any hard work. AFAIK, nobody's getting rich when you're stuck at being an employee.


Title: Re: Hardwork pays not luck!
Post by: Dr.Osh on October 18, 2023, 09:40:08 AM
Luck is not the way to become rich or just to say, a way to improve our living but also, it needs hard work. Our lives are not gambling where we just rely on luck which means that in order to survive and be able to reach our goal, then we must consider pushing ourselves to do that.
But I see this thing that usually happens to those people who think that luck could be the answer to their dreams - that is those who keep spending a lot of money on gambling.

As I compared to businessmen, they become rich as they are working hard and spend a lot of time in their business. Because we can just sit down and become rich because we are a lucky person, that is really impossible.
Many people don't realize that by working hard, and continuing to try, they can make a fortune. Some people think that no matter how hard they work, if they are unlucky, they will fail there. They don't realize that it is a process that shapes them so they are ready for success in the future. However, working hard will result in good things, no matter how many times we fail. Besides, without working hard, how could one hope for good luck.