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Why this spammer is still in the bitcointalk and not yet banned?

Many cases opened against this lier and still he is posting freely. All DT member afraiding of him.
This thread clearly identify all proves. waiting for banning this shit person.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5303363.0

Why do you, a new member, know and care so much about forum politics? Why do you always have your mouth open on this board? Are you that much of a coward that you can't use your original account to create such threads? I find it hard to believe that "AI Detector" is the only account that you own if you are making these kinds of threads.

That aside, if you're going to make a thread, at least reason it and add some information for people to see where you are coming from...otherwise, save it and stop wasting space like you continue to do with most of the junk you post here!

You can report a spammers or a plagiarist to moderators. Ratimov was reported but not banned. His old articles were reported but not be seen a plagiarism to moderators.

Why did you say that DT members are afraid of him? Is that the reason you created another account becuase you will likely be a DT member.

He is not a newbie is my guess, he is an alt account.

You bring back the old thread, it's already 3 years and the moderator didn't ban him so far.

So if you think he will get banned by discussing an old thread without add any new evidence, I'd say the probability he will get banned is 0%.

Moreover trust abuse, scam, cheat, troll etc wouldn't make you get banned.

Do your job if you think he is breaking the forum rules, report to the mods. I'm sure they aren't afraid of him unlike DT members who'm you claim are afraid of him. Just like to remind you that post can be moderated but the trust system cannot.

If there is clear evidence that he committed plagiarism then he will be banned because the rules are the same for everyone and one who violates will face the consequences too.

Instead of saying he committed plagiarism why not come up with some examples, also the thread you shared has no details about plagiarism so if you want to prove your statement then start digging for evidence instead of blabbering here.

The person you are accusing is a valuable contributor to the forum in many ways for example he reported 100,000 posts with 100% accuracy.

Another one for you is that he contributed in every way

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DT members are not afraid of anyone. If Ratimov do something wrong in a way that the community will give him negative trust and remove him from their trust lists, it will not take a long time before that would have happened. Some DT members will like him and give him good neutral and positive feedback and also include him on their trust lists.

Can everyone just add ~AI detected to their trust list and add them to your ignore list and move on.

Look at their posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=3579598;sa=showPosts

Just digging up old reports or re-hashing things that nobody seems to care about.
Obviously their main account(s) were banned or red trusted to death and now they are coming back to harass some people that may have been involved in it.

-Dave

I get what you're saying. It's clear that they're not afraid of anyone, but it seems like OP thought they were concerned about Ratimov. So, my point was, it's going he was going off-topic because he link the post to DT. Handling this issue should be the responsibility of the moderators, not the DT. (That's what I meant to convey.)

Yes, but he doesn't leave any tags to anyone, doesn't add any flag so there's no need and there will be no result in distrusting him as well. He makes some noise in reputation board and that's all. If he will leave any inappropriate tag, then I will ~ him, and as for now... until he gets any interesting evidence he can be just ignored.

It seems we have a good entertainer who digs out old things and entertains the reputation board. I have a feeling that you have an old account but you do not have the balls to write from your main account. A member was not banned, and another one is banned, why? It's none of our business. Not yours as well. Do you think you understand better than moderators? If so, why don't you apply for the moderator position even though the first rule to be a moderator is not to ask for it? LOL. I don't remember where I read this, but theymos do not accept applications to be a moderator. Moderators get their position depending on how good their report is.


It will make the trust list system kinda less important. When people trust/distrust others for small reasons, it just decreases the value of trust/distrust. He is not going to be a DT anytime soon. He did not leave any feedback. So adding him to the distrust list does not make any changes. Adding him ignore list is a much batter decision.

Am sure the moderators are doing their job well and you don't have to keep emphasizing on this subject matter before action could be taken, if you reported a post for plagiarism and action is not taken, that means you're wrong about your take on the post for plagiarism, as far as i understand, the quickest way to exit this forum is to plagiarize, so what makes you think that @Ratimov plagiarized, from the previous link provided by you on same matter, you have been replied already that quoting a post and putting the link there is not plagiarism, what else do you want, are you just doing this in other to fight against the user or you're not just a fan of his kind of lifestyle on this forum, why are you not using your main account for this accusation, i hope in later future you wouldn't create another thread on same thing already discussed now.

OP, what exactly was your problem in the past?
clearly, this is unusual behavior, and it clearly indicates that you have a problem in the forum.

First, you come to the forum by mentioning members with high rankings. and it's not much different from you raising the discussion of an old case without adding additional evidence to update the allegations.

I'm sure you're not finished yet, but if you continue like that, more members here will ignore you. and no one will care about your new thread in the future.

I think of it as a preemptive strike, and a bit of lazy.
If they do start tagging and perhaps they do somehow get some people adding them to their trust list it might become and issue.
So, since it seems they are on some sort of bizarre vendetta, give them the ~ and add to ignore and you don't have to worry about it later.

Perhaps not the best attitude, but if they do turn out to be a useful member it's simple to remove the ~
If they create a mess, then other people may have issues that they did not need to have.

Just my view.

-Dave

I wouldn't want to go into detail with what op has shared here as I don't want to involved myself with what I don't know of but from my suspicion, or do I say my instinct OP's main account is ban and I can see he wants to truly fight against those who contributed to his knocked down. What is the reason for this topic if I may ask? The previous poster who posted it didn't know what he did for you to go raise another topic for this whole matter to trigger up again I am asking you op. Look I know what you are fighting but sometimes we can call it a blind war whereby whenever you try to hit your opennents the more you get knocked down, so I will just say you should forget whatever that has happened and moved on with your life.

so you are making joke of my post. wait you will be next one. I will make thread.

How long do you plan to last if you just attack attack attack? You have 11 posts, 4 created threads, and all of complaining about 1 person or another. You haven't really listened to what anyone says(as I type this post I am just realizing you aren't going to listen to me either).

Until you post some solid proof, I suggest members just ignore this dude.

I have done it. Moreover, there is no discussion that has a clear argument. he just writes useless nonsense. Maybe he will create another alt account if this account has been ignored by many members. Of course he might have a grudge against ratimov. Ignoring is the best option

I don't think I ever looked into whatever allegations of plagiarism Ratimov had against him, but I trust the judgement of the moderators; if Ratimov was guilty, I seriously doubt they'd make an exception for him.  Enforcement of the rules--and especially the one for using other people's words without citing a source--is pretty damn harsh here, and I don't think I've seen much favoritism as far as letting certain members get away with something.  I was surprised when Bruno got temp-banned a while back for consecutive posting, but he did.

Gee, why is my gut telling me that isn't going to happen? 

You can guess that this person is very familiar with what happened and is happening on the forum. I'm sure he has a second account from which he writes good posts so as not to stand out and not be accidentally flagged for the play of emotions that he stirs up from another account. This behavior is common among many people. At home, a person presents himself as a dictator, but in society, he is an obedient gray mouse. His attacks on Ratimov are just envy and recognition of himself as the most ordinary mediocrity, rather cowardly, since he does not dare to express everything in person and hides behind a second account.

I don't care anymore what Ratimov is doing these days. It seems he was successfully overcome the wrong he did but from last few weeks I am noticing you are very active with one after one attach to bitcointalk members. Who are you exactly?

It's better if you are able to speak the same from your main account. Right now, no one is going to listen you even if you bring something very legitimate.

Exactly that's what I posted a few minutes ago in another thread. You have already created a bad image of your name in this forum by creating some useless thread. I am unsure If people will evaluate your report now even if they are correct. If you report too many incorrect reports, people might ignore your correct report too. Because they might think that "This is another troll post or an entertainment post"^[1].

Sometimes forum members love to see people with balls. If you do not have the balls to face others, living like that does not give you satisfaction. So yeah, OP, I agree with what BitcoinGirl.Club said.

Yes, DT members are so scared and afraid of him that they can't sleep at night, they all expect him to pop out from screen and attack us all of the sudden.  ::)
Looks like someone is but hurt about something that happened few years ago, but I consider this to be a shit topic.
And please don't use shitty alt accounts since you are not afraid of anything.

 

Someone that is Russian speaking should give some insight actually...
It's not so easy to judge anyone that posts a lot in a foreign language sub forum if you don't speak that language yourself.

The truth is that the OP both by the threads he writes and the way he writes has all the appearance of being someone who has been red tagged or something and is trying to get revenge but I think lately he is more making a fool of himself than anything else.

I don't think I've been on board with Ratimov much and I can't speak to the plagiarism issue or the recent spat with another member that ended up with them both red tagging each other, but I agree with The Sceptical Chymist, I understand that moderation would have acted at the time if it was a clear case.

What do you want to know? Ratimov is one of the most reputable members of Russian board who makes lot of important things in different ways which make our local board better. If it wasn't so you'd seen this in some of these topics also, because there's enough users from Russian board who are active enough in English sections. If you have any other questions, then please specify what do you want to know.

Same reason you're sockpuppeting with this cringy shit... freedom of fucking speech or something, every person has the right to be an idiot any way they want here.

Now if you actually decided to stand for something and post from your main account and make a solid case based with proof and whatnot - that would be a noteworthy event in this cesspool.

Seeing how useless this thread is I'm starting to wonder if you're trying to poison the well. Can't really tell if you're dumb enough for that.

No I am saying that you have not posted anything new or useful.


Me neither, but stranger things have happened.


There you go thinking that their main account has not gotten banned.

-Dave

Well I gravitate towards the opinion that OP is at least exaggerating his accusations.

But if Ratimov is indeed a serial plagiarizer I'm sure a Russian speaker would be more able to tell if this is true or not since he is so active on the Russian subforum.

We are not tolerate to plagiarism in Russian board, you can see that there are several active plagiarism fighters from Russian board on the forum and we report plagiarism in Russian sections as well. So if there is any plagiarist in Russian sections it wouldn't be unnoticed. We have a big enough local board and like it to stay clean and comfortable for communication.

OP I don't really get where this is going but to me you just joined the Forum not too long ago and you already know much about Ratimov and the all the DT members being afraid of the the accused?
Is it that you're not brave enough to use your main account to drop this accusation, because to me is like you're trying not to let your true I.D to be noticed when opening this thread, you act like a newbie that you're not. So what's the aim of hiding behind shadows? Come out plain and face Ratimov as someone who plagiarize.

This has not really about the Russian language. Ratimov was copy-pasting texts that just barely technically didn't qualify as "plagiarism" according to forum rules and/or moderator interpretation but it would have been plagiarism for a reasonable observer. Whether he has done anything like that since then (this was 2-3 years ago IIRC) - I don't know, probably not, he's one of those adaptive sleazeballs except when he flies off the handle and starts attacking people who dare to call him out.

Definitely not DT material but it has little to do with DT members being afraid of him as the useless shitpuppet OP is alleging. If you look at Ratimov's DT1 "sponsors", there is quite a bit of backscratching going on, Russian members supporting him for whatever tribalism they have going on there, and a few others who probably can't be arsed to research whom they have in their trust lists (and arguably shouldn't be in DT1 themselves, I mean Best_Change LOL).

Well, same goes for Ratimov's merits. There's a lot of exchange between Russian accounts on this forum.
Does this mean that it's ill gotten merit? Maybe. But it's up to interpretation really at the end of the day.
We've said it time and time again that local boards should be encouraged to be more active and merit is a nice incentive. But with all that liberty comes also some responsibility, and back-scratching indeed isn't an ideal scenario, especially if a language subforum isn't really growing but it's just the same members over and over again.

Should there be intervention though? This to me is questionable. Unless there's some serious alt accounting in place I don't see what's going on as particularly harmful.

Well, that's precisely what we've been talking about at length on my local board, where although the total number of posters in a month may be 40, there are about a dozen of us who are regularly active every day there. We all write with a certain quality, and what ends up happening? We send merits to each other, which someone from the outside could see as a merit exchange, but the same thing happened with the foxpup's merit cycling club, who were accused of sending merits to each other. Normal, they are high quality posters, so it is logical that they give merits to each other.

For me, to say that there is merit exchange, you have to see more than just people sending merits to each other back and forth.


I don't think so either, and theymos has expressed the same opinion.