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Title: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: coinremitter on October 17, 2023, 10:17:17 AM
Calling all businesses! We're curious to hear your thoughts and experiences on adopting crypto payment gateways in your operations. What advice would you give to fellow entrepreneurs considering this move? Share your insights and let's discuss the pros and cons of crypto payments for businesses. Your expertise can help others make informed decisions in this ever-evolving financial landscape. Join the conversation and be part of this valuable discussion!


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: FatFork on October 23, 2023, 12:32:36 PM
Why have you moved this topic to Altcoin Discussion? Are you specifically referring to alternative cryptocurrencies with the term "crypto payments," or does it also include Bitcoin?


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: IMZ Noo Account on October 23, 2023, 10:08:13 PM
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You need to study the tax regulations of any country where merchants want to trial adoption, and those merchants, right up front, need an accountant willing to do tax returns with an increment of crypto trading.

Businesses -- certainly in western nations -- are drowning in regulations. Many of those are unclear. So any community serious about assisting adoption need to help with the homework.


PS The issue of whether these merchants will hold the cryptos they take, or instantly convert them to fiat, is pivotal. Lots to discuss here.

IndiaMikeZulu


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: ryzaadit on October 24, 2023, 01:44:55 AM
I always hear the problem of crypto-gateway, most of them cannot handle the volatility price of crypto. They sell their crypto to fiat $ after certain amount, the problem they need to stored the money first before is actually sell them off. Also, from customer side problem : most of customer still not really aware about the adoption crypto we still have a few generation (old & new). Because they're not aware, crypto-gateaway being used more less than other payment gateway like using $.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on October 24, 2023, 03:17:15 AM
First that comes to mind, accept Bitcoin more than altcoins. If I have a business, I guess I would only accept Bitcoin and a stablecoin. I've just taken a look at altcoin prices right now in terms of Bitcoin. They're all falling down hard. That's what happens when Bitcoin becomes aggressive.

The pros are the usual irreversibility, verifiability, P2P therefore fast unlike fiat payment modes, etc. The cons are the usual volatility, transaction fees, confirmation time, etc. But the Lightning network is already an option. 2 confirmations for small transactions are also good enough. For volatility, you only have to keep them for a while for the price to recover. But that requires that you can absorb a sleeping money in your business operation.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: makishart on October 24, 2023, 04:19:52 AM
You need to study the crypto first to know which crypto that may help you to exploring the possibility to add it as your payment gateway for your business. There have been many business were accept bitcoin as the first payment gateway but the main problem if it's not all of them were using LN network to decresase the transaction fees. You can also try to look at alternative currency like stable token that used scalable blockchain to help you and your customer being charged only with the small fees.

There are lots of consideration before you will able to add crypto as your payment gateway. that's why you need to study that first to make sure you were not picking the wrong coin to be used as your payment gateway.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on October 24, 2023, 05:34:22 AM
Calling all businesses! We're curious to hear your thoughts and experiences on adopting crypto payment gateways in your operations. What advice would you give to fellow entrepreneurs considering this move? Share your insights and let's discuss the pros and cons of crypto payments for businesses. Your expertise can help others make informed decisions in this ever-evolving financial landscape. Join the conversation and be part of this valuable discussion!
Many people has adopted the system of cryptocurrency payments in their business even also in their working place and it continues to move fine, but it's only the people who is not a cryptocurrency minded will basically condemn the act of receiving a payments eith cryptocurrency, in my country I have seen some of the business people established that accepts cryptocurrency for a payment but I don't really know actually if statistics of payments with fiat cryptocurrency the one with fiat is higher than the one with cryptocurrency or cryptocurrency received more payments.

But what I know is that cryptocurrency and especially bitcoin has viral to the extent the news of bitcoin it's almost across every nation even though they are not participating in the currency of bitcoin but they have heard of bitcoin, another thing that is making bitcoin not to have more domination is because of government.

Because government of different countries do state negative about bitcoin when they have noticed that the citizens embrace bitcoin and they began to castigate the existence of bitcoin and also ban bitcoin, so except that act by some the government in some countries may employee or workers would have ask the government to pay them with bitcoin.. some people is still investing in cryptocurrency with same payments they receive through government,  after have been paid by the government they go to ATM machine to purchase bitcoin.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: vv181 on October 24, 2023, 09:54:07 AM
I do not directly implement cryptocurrency payment options since it is prohibited in my country. But based on my observation here and in other place, a lot of business owners who have tight cashflow, are in need of quick and direct FIAT conversion. So, they accept it via third parties and do not necessarily store cryptocurrency. They simply just offering payment options to their customers.

Also, in some cases, if the business only offers the option for the sake of goods payments, they rarely use the self-hosted option since it is not suitable and expensive. It just has a high commitment to manage and maintain that.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on October 24, 2023, 10:32:48 AM
What advice would you give to fellow entrepreneurs considering this move? Share your insights and let's discuss the pros and cons of crypto payments for businesses.
It's a given that every modern business should adopt crypto option for payment just as they've for fiat. I believe every business has to move with the tide or be left behind. Anyone who's stuck on the old school way of doing business will sooner than later be affected by lack of patronage as their customers who are into cryptos are bound to move away from them and to those who accept cryptos.

The ease and convenience of paying for goods in cashless economy rather than handing over physical cash can be compared to the ease of paying with cryptos over cashless payment with fiat. People want what can give them less stress accomplishing. What matters to me (I believe for many others too) during transactions is ease and convenience. For that, any business that offers me that convenience becomes my regular.

– In addition, I can't remember the last time I made a physical deposit in a bank or a withdrawal inside a bank. That's fiat. Cryptos can do much more of what fiat is offering, even with ease.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: cheezcarls on October 24, 2023, 03:00:35 PM
Regarding the advice for businesses who want to accept crypto as payment gateway for their products and services, educating themselves about Bitcoin is always the first and important step before deciding to adopt it.

In the Philippines, there are various merchants already who are accepting Bitcoin and stables as mode of payment.

The most popular one would be in Boracay where Pouch.ph is spearheading the Bitcoin payment option in the island. However, they are centralized as it is tied to Netbank and with KYC. But they are using the lightning network and using the stable PHP balance for transactions and not the actual BTC.

There is also a coffee shop named Sats Cafe in a well-known university in the central Philippines where they strictly accept Bitcoin via Pouch PH and not cash.

Also in my home city there is a clothing apparel using the same Bitcoin payment app as alternative payment method.

Education and access to right information is really necessary for the business owners who doesn’t have knowledge and/or misinformed about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: wajik-tempe on October 24, 2023, 04:22:56 PM
Regarding the advice for businesses who want to accept crypto as payment gateway for their products and services, educating themselves about Bitcoin is always the first and important step before deciding to adopt it.

In the Philippines, there are various merchants already who are accepting Bitcoin and stables as mode of payment.

The most popular one would be in Boracay where Pouch.ph is spearheading the Bitcoin payment option in the island. However, they are centralized as it is tied to Netbank and with KYC. But they are using the lightning network and using the stable PHP balance for transactions and not the actual BTC.

There is also a coffee shop named Sats Cafe in a well-known university in the central Philippines where they strictly accept Bitcoin via Pouch PH and not cash.

Also in my home city there is a clothing apparel using the same Bitcoin payment app as alternative payment method.

Education and access to right information is really necessary for the business owners who doesn’t have knowledge and/or misinformed about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.

For organizations contemplating crypto payment gateways, insights on the necessity of education and access to reliable information are critical. Before incorporating cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin into their business, entrepreneurs must completely comprehend them and their possible ramifications. Business owners may make educated decisions about whether to accept crypto payments, reduce risks, and possibly tap into a rising market of crypto-savvy customers by educating themselves and accessing credible information. Furthermore, learning from the experiences of firms that have previously delved into crypto payments, such as Pouch.ph, Sats Cafe, and the local clothes apparel store, might give vital insights for those wanting to navigate this ever-changing financial environment efficiently.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on October 24, 2023, 04:44:53 PM
Why have you moved this topic to Altcoin Discussion? Are you specifically referring to alternative cryptocurrencies with the term "crypto payments," or does it also include Bitcoin?

Basically if a cryptocurrency should be accepted as a means of payment it can't be altcoins I think it will be bitcoin, so in normal circumstances it's obvious that bitcoin is not am altcoins and all altcoins lies on the shoulders of bitcoin to gry propagated and regain a potential in cryptocurrency. But I don't know if the op includes bitcoin as altcoins that made him or her to moved the thread to altcoins discussion section.

From one point of view and knowledge concerning bitcoin  it's clear and visible to the blind and audible to deaf that bitcoin is not an altcoin and any country or company that embrace cryptocurrency as a means of payment in their company it will be surely be bitcoin.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: Adbitco on October 24, 2023, 06:40:20 PM
For a business to adopt or explore a cryptocurrency payment gateway first is to consider the environment where they are operating from if such place are cryptocurrency friendly because there could be a low demand or request to start using crypto as payment gateway. Let it be the request for it is much more than those who chooses to be making payments through fiat and the usability of bitcoin or other cryptocurrency would Matter if business owners will start providing additional ways.

Adoption of crypto currency is mostly common over the city were the usage of bitcoin is much higher than any other areas, and this could likely be a coin that can easily scale up a transaction much quicker than bitcoin. Though most people might still preferred using bitcoin while most majority may choose altcoin like TRX or LTC for quick confirmation because at some point those who chooses BTC may not afford to cover the expense of high fee with just a small units of goods purchased.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: Blitzboy on October 25, 2023, 05:06:55 AM
Cryptocurrency has decentralised control, low transaction fees, and unsurpassed security, right? However, crypto market volatility and unpredictability can damage cash flows and business profitability. My experience? Unfortunately, strict government rules prevent us from accepting bitcoin payments, despite its many benefits. We can store crypto, but use it in business? No, not now.

For entrepreneurs considering crypto, you must study your jurisdiction's ever-changing legal complexities. Beyond a craze, cryptocurrencies constitute a financial paradigm change. Be careful. Always consider the advantages and downsides, grasp the rules, and prepare for probable issues. The game is complicated and every move counts.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: passwordnow on October 25, 2023, 11:39:57 AM
I don't have a business so I may not be the best person to give an opinion about this topic but hear me what I have to say about businesses accepting and adopting crypto payments. First of all, that's what we want. As long as there's a business that accepts it, that means another extension and means of adoption. But let's get to the real thing, not all customers are for the crypto payments. While it's good to have an alternative payment system for the customers especially those that you've got the same interest as theirs.

But, despite you being an optimistic crypto guy and making good things like adopting it to your business. This means that you can't please everybody. There will be customers that will be against to it because they'll insert their belief that crypto isn't a thing or two for them and they're against on it. And as someone who runs the business, you'll just have to respect whatever they say to that initiative that you do for helping the adoption in your area.

That's okay, not everyone will be happy with that but the thing here is that you are just adding another alternative payment system and for your customers to have more options while learning who amongst them that are also in crypto.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: justdimin on October 25, 2023, 11:44:31 AM
You need to study the crypto first to know which crypto that may help you to exploring the possibility to add it as your payment gateway for your business. There have been many business were accept bitcoin as the first payment gateway but the main problem if it's not all of them were using LN network to decresase the transaction fees. You can also try to look at alternative currency like stable token that used scalable blockchain to help you and your customer being charged only with the small fees.

There are lots of consideration before you will able to add crypto as your payment gateway. that's why you need to study that first to make sure you were not picking the wrong coin to be used as your payment gateway.
Indeed, studying at least the basics is still needed even if we will only avail those 3rd party services. It's not the same to investing where we need to pick the best cryptos because we can choose to convert the cryptos immediately to fiat. But it's better to just go on which crypto is popular. Bitcoin is obviously the first in the list, which will be followed by Ethereum (for those who are altcoin lovers).

Adding LN is great for small users who will purchase lite items only. Cryptos are not a secret anymore. As long as we are on a crypto-friendly country, it's a great addition to the existing payment methods that we are already accepting because some people prefers it more than the other.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: GreatArkansas on October 25, 2023, 01:58:44 PM
Another thing to consider when exploring crypto payment gateways is how you will implement it in your business like integration, which comes with probably technical some coding experience, so choose a crypto payment gateway provider that is easy or not complex to integrate with your existing system, like having good technical documentation and support.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: Kelvinid on October 25, 2023, 09:54:59 PM
Calling all businesses! We're curious to hear your thoughts and experiences on adopting crypto payment gateways in your operations. What advice would you give to fellow entrepreneurs considering this move? Share your insights and let's discuss the pros and cons of crypto payments for businesses. Your expertise can help others make informed decisions in this ever-evolving financial landscape. Join the conversation and be part of this valuable discussion!
I believe you need to talk personally those someone who really has the experience of accepting crypto in your place OP because it has a different experience and rules. Because base on my experience in our country, it was seldom that happened as they prefer to use our local currency over crypto. I'm not sure how educated are the people in your country, unlike us where still many are ignorant about crypto.
For now, I haven't yet seen any advantages from doing this as a payment gateway but maybe can be good in your country mate. I suggest you to ask your countrymen and those people around you if they already know about crypto already.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: danherbias07 on October 25, 2023, 10:45:04 PM
As of now, there are more cons in doing this than the pros so if you don't really know much about cryptocurrencies then I guess it will take time before you could open a cryptocurrency payment in your store/business.
Depends on the place too. If you are in Japan then there are always many options for digital payments but most stores open that gateway to pay in cryptocurrencies.
If you are in a third world country then I doubt there will be customers who will pay you in this mode because most of them either pay cash or credit card.
It's not that I am disappointing you about it but that's the truth. Know your surroundings first. Do you think many people will use this service in this era? Or will you just be wasting time at opening an account knowing well that none of the customers will use this service?


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: AakZaki on October 26, 2023, 09:40:31 PM
Another thing to consider when exploring crypto payment gateways is how you will implement it in your business like integration, which comes with probably technical some coding experience, so choose a crypto payment gateway provider that is easy or not complex to integrate with your existing system, like having good technical documentation and support.
Having good documentation and technical support is very important so that new users who want to use the gateway can more easily integrate it. there are several crypto Gateways available today like Coinbase Commerce, CoinGate, Bitpay, NOWPayment etc.
But I mostly use Coinbase Ecommerce and Bitpay for some payments. It's easy to use and support for complaints is also handled well.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: coinremitter on November 07, 2023, 11:41:26 AM
sigh

You need to study the tax regulations of any country where merchants want to trial adoption, and those merchants, right up front, need an accountant willing to do tax returns with an increment of crypto trading.

Businesses -- certainly in western nations -- are drowning in regulations. Many of those are unclear. So any community serious about assisting adoption need to help with the homework.


PS The issue of whether these merchants will hold the cryptos they take, or instantly convert them to fiat, is pivotal. Lots to discuss here.

IndiaMikeZulu
Absolutely, understanding and complying with tax regulations is crucial for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways. These regulations can vary significantly from one country to another, and businesses should be well-prepared. Additionally, it's essential for merchants to engage with accountants who are knowledgeable about crypto-related tax obligations.

In many western nations, businesses are indeed faced with a complex and often unclear regulatory landscape. Communities that are actively promoting crypto adoption should assist businesses in navigating this regulatory complexity by providing educational resources and guidance.

The decision on whether to hold cryptocurrencies received as payment or convert them to fiat is a pivotal one for merchants. It affects their risk exposure, accounting procedures, and financial strategies. This is an important topic that warrants in-depth discussions within the crypto community. There's much to explore and consider in this regard.



I always hear the problem of crypto-gateway, most of them cannot handle the volatility price of crypto. They sell their crypto to fiat $ after certain amount, the problem they need to stored the money first before is actually sell them off. Also, from customer side problem : most of customer still not really aware about the adoption crypto we still have a few generation (old & new). Because they're not aware, crypto-gateaway being used more less than other payment gateway like using $.
Managing crypto payment gateways can be a bit challenging, especially when it comes to handling the price volatility of cryptocurrencies. Many businesses indeed face the issue of converting crypto to fiat to mitigate this risk. The key is to strike a balance between accepting cryptocurrencies and managing volatility. Diversifying your cryptocurrency holdings and setting up appropriate risk management strategies can be helpful.

On the customer side, you're absolutely right that not everyone is fully aware of the benefits of cryptocurrencies. To address this, consider providing educational resources and incentives to encourage crypto adoption. Offering discounts or rewards for using cryptocurrencies can be a compelling way to attract more users.

Furthermore, it's essential to keep up with the evolving regulatory landscape surrounding cryptocurrencies. Compliance and transparency can build trust with your customers and regulatory authorities. Emphasize the security and reliability of your payment gateway to gain the confidence of both businesses and consumers.



First that comes to mind, accept Bitcoin more than altcoins. If I have a business, I guess I would only accept Bitcoin and a stablecoin. I've just taken a look at altcoin prices right now in terms of Bitcoin. They're all falling down hard. That's what happens when Bitcoin becomes aggressive.

The pros are the usual irreversibility, verifiability, P2P therefore fast unlike fiat payment modes, etc. The cons are the usual volatility, transaction fees, confirmation time, etc. But the Lightning network is already an option. 2 confirmations for small transactions are also good enough. For volatility, you only have to keep them for a while for the price to recover. But that requires that you can absorb a sleeping money in your business operation.
Choosing to accept Bitcoin and stablecoins is a wise strategy for businesses. Bitcoin's dominance and stability make it a reliable choice. Altcoins tend to be more volatile and can experience significant price fluctuations, especially when Bitcoin is on the move.

The advantages of using cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin include their irreversibility, verifiability, and peer-to-peer nature, which enables fast transactions compared to traditional fiat payment methods. However, it's crucial to be aware of some drawbacks, such as volatility, transaction fees, and confirmation times.

To mitigate these downsides, you can consider using the Lightning Network, a second-layer solution that offers faster and cheaper transactions for Bitcoin. Additionally, for smaller transactions, waiting for just 2 confirmations can provide sufficient security, reducing confirmation time concerns.

Dealing with cryptocurrency volatility can be challenging, but businesses can adapt by holding onto the assets for a period, allowing for potential price recovery. However, this approach does require the ability to manage some idle capital within your business operations.


Title: Re: What advice for businesses exploring crypto payment gateways?
Post by: Zigabel on November 07, 2023, 05:42:53 PM
It's actually a good innovation to add crypto as a payment options to improve flexibility and variety, but before including such into your payment options it's also important to consider what your customer base is like and their acceptability to such options, your service or the kind of goods you sell too also have to be considered. In regions where it's not really welcomed or accepted it will be challenging to do such, and confirmation at time may take sometime so you will need to find solution that will help you get pass all these hitches before considering such payment options.

But it has an advantage of allowing you receive money from any where and anyone without having payment and convertion hitches around payments especially if you sale online, crypto currency is close to been universal when it has to do with acceptability with payment.