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This have been discussed few times before and someone have to do it again maybe often, for those of you looking to become a gambler what is your motives behind it? To make money? Or to have some fun? Here is my advice to everyone of you.

Why not treat casinos the same ways like you are going to the movies or bowling? You are simply paying for the experience and the entertainment, it's either you enjoy it or you may not, can you feel me? You don't know how bad a movie can be until you watched it, so....

Casinos, either online or offline, isn't a place to win money for the 99% of people, but this same group of people want to confused or already confused themselves that they can make money gambling, this isn't the proper way. It's meant to be for fun and not so serious like your life depends on it.

If you want your life to goes on with ease, learn to be a fun gambler and not too dependent on gambling, this is what gets people f**ked, the reality of gambling is you win when it's not even expected, be a responsible gambler.

I was gambling to make money, but I was taught a lesson. After the lesson learned, I later chose to use gambling to make fun because using it to make money will not actually make money for you but losses instead.

That is just it, but if you do not go beyond a small gambling budget like 5% of your weekly income spent on gambling weekly, you should not be very reckless of thinking not to have some strategies to help make the little you can make if possible.

True that! We can't argue that gambling isn't for entertainment, but mainly for typical gamblers. There are, however, advanced gamblers who see it as an opportunity to consistently make money. Let's not dwell on that too much, as I'm sure only a few can relate.

So, yes, gambling is entertainment, and we should just enjoy it. When we go to a cinema, we spend money to get entertained, and it's the same with gambling. Because if you spend more than you can afford to lose, you're no longer getting entertainment; you've driven yourself into the dark hole of problems.

You see comparing casinos as an adventure just like going to the cinema isn't a bad idea but casino is a game and cinema is an adventure, we play games in other to win despite the fact that most times we make loses in the pursuit to get winnings and moreover this gambling dealers also create this casinos for people to win or lose so in the quest to have fun at least one is also suppose to record some wins that's when the fun will be more funful.

Fun or no fun the motives of every gambler is to win as no one will gladly want to waste money all the time just because you are seeking for fun. There are many ways to have fun without involving money all the time. No matter the means by which people make money, be it easy way or hard way no one will be happy to deliberately lose money on casino just for fun.

For the movies though, there are trailers that you can see before you may want to watch that movie, so that is a bad analogy to begin with. Unlike when you go to casinos, you don't know if you are going to win or not. and 99% of the time is that you are going to lose.


Yeah, but when you go to casinos, you will at least be positive and think that you are going to win. If not then good, at least bring money that you can afford to lose. So that it won't be a issue for you if you win or lose money.


It's not that easy though because gambler will be gamblers. They are their to win some money no matter what. Of course, they will be entertained at some point. But if you continue to lose money just for the sake of being entertained, then think again.

Every time I feel like gambling, I don't think of any such motives, I just open a site and then try my luck. I know others might understand me because we are aware that most casinos are luck-based games, especially the provably fair games. I am no longer there to make money but only to have some fun.

Yeah, we may think that gambling is the same way as movie time but they are only similar in providing entertainment. They both involve money but in different ways, in the cinema, you are not expecting a return after paying and watching it, even if the movie is bad for you, there is no refund. In gambling, you might expect something in return if you win by luck.

I gamble just for fun, like I watch movies in the cinema. I do both of these things in my free time, but I don't do them too often because I am more concerned with the money being able to meet my family's daily needs. Only if there is money that is really not used for important things or anything else will I use it for gambling because I don't want to disturb the financial position that I have established every month. Actually, we have many more interesting things to do and not only gambling but often we are too lazy to start, so we prefer to use gambling as a fun activity. In fact, by gambling, we use money that may be more than we budgeted for.

This is something that I often convey to the community on this forum by considering that defeat is only limited to us paying for the entertainment we play, for example watching a movie or other entertainment such as bowling something that is entertaining, for example the budget spent on entertainment is around $100 Do we have to regret it when the money runs out, just like in gambling? I don't think it's necessary as long as it's fun.

But sometimes people find it strange, even though this clearly makes more sense than using money that is not used, because any money will definitely be used. The meaning is that this thread is described in more detail, this is why don't chase losses that are actually unnecessary, playing gambling must make it happen. as entertainment, if you win, withdraw all the money, if you lose, just think of paying for all the entertainment, but you must still limit your budget so that it doesn't swell and exceed the limit and end up going bankrupt due to addiction, gambling wisely using a healthy mindset is the point.  ;D

I beg to differ.
They are both fun but one is more social friendly than the other, no matter how you put it, casino is a place where people hang out to make some money while movies is pure social hangout where nobody will ever complain of what you come to do.

When I went to watch match, the way I get to entertain myself in a movie night is different from the I get entertainment in playing bet. Haven't been to any casino before but I have visit bet shops back then when gambling weren't really online, the likes of Betnaija and Nairabet in those days where fun to do. The feelings I have experienced over their actually is different from the fun of movie night.

I hope you do know that you can take your babe along for a movie night bit you can't do that when it comes to gambling like casino. If you go to play in a casino house, all your attention is going to be there unless you are a professional gambler but in a movie night, the atmosphere will be quiet, when you have pop corn and Pepsi, you forget about making money but in gambling, no matter how you try to swerve from the money aspect, you will want to make some money, give or take your attention will be there.

This indeed has been discussed several times here, and i remember being an Op to one of such discussions. But then, i agree that this is something i suppose we can never stop discussing since we have a lot of gamblers today who are not gambling for the right reasons, which is to just have fun, but gambling for the wrong reasons, which is to make money.

If casinos were indeed a place to make money, i suppose many of us would be so damn rich right now. Gambling is solely a means of entertainment, it's called re-creational entertainment, the ability to make money through gambling i believe is what makes it recreational. But unfortunately, as it is with human beings, we like to abuse anything we know we can make money from, and this is why we have so many gamblers today not gambling for the real purpose as to why gambling is established, but rather, majority are gambling to make money, some don't even have a job and neither are they working to secure one, but rather, have decided to turn gambling into a profession or career
Such things as this is something we all should highly discourage within ourselves and our friends.

As you look for this type of topic on this section, you'll definitely see a lot of it that were made before but still, it's a good idea to think that your gambling losses are like payments for the experience that you've gained in the casino. You can have that denial stage that you have gambled because you're all for the fun and you can think that you've gambled and loss and that money is good as payment to them. You can actually think of as many reasons as you can when you lose. It is also like a defense mechanism when you're all for the profit and then your plans aren't successful because all you're getting are losses. There's no need for one to admit that he's gambling for the profit and can just admit that he's paying for the experience so that he'll become a better gambler in the future. IMO, there's no problem whether you tell that you're up for the profit or for the experience and with that money you lose is fine as long as it is yours. What's shameful is when you gamble not with your money and either a loan or from someone who owns that money and you never told that you've used it for gambling.

The truth is that we can't pretend that gambling involves the expectation of something greater than you have given so that the other party is in loss to prove at least a winner. Winners always have price whichever the price is whether financial benefits or other gains of advantage. So cinema is totally for fun as primary purpose and even while at the cinema you can yet gamble out side for whatever you want to prove in the movie you are watching either to show you have seen it before and can tell the story in the movie. My point therefore is that even while relaxing at the movies you can gamble on a phenomenal with some other person or even your girlfriend or wife maybe not for cash but for a particular gain or advantage which could even be at the home front if you understand what I mean  ;D

Gambling is just something more than entertainment because majority of those embarking on it does not do it for the entertainment only.

I respect your opinion but this topic isn't mainly focused on the difference, the lesson to learn from this topic is using that small amount as near as buying a ticket to watch movies, that's what I meant by setting your minds on small amount of money to gain some fun, sometimes I spent money on ticket and the movie will be disappointing, but since what we spent isn't something alarming, we are still going to be cool about it anyway.

Watching a football match is also the same, If you bet too much on a match you ain't going to enjoy the game, been social or not, your mind will be hoping for a win because you bet what you consider to be a lot of money, so you will panic anyway.

It's not the differences that I am pointing to, let's learn from this idea of comfortably watching movies as the same as gambling, we will be fine doing so, that's why every dollar bet on a game is nothing because its a dollar you betting, this is where all the fun will get to you.

I also gamble just for fun, but with the kind of money that I should use for other things that supposed to be fun. Instead of my friends and I should go and have fun at other places during the weekend, we can decide to go to casinos and have almost the same fun but with gambling which is the main reason. What that is very important is my family life and savings, I can not take any money that I supposed to save or spent on my family to gamble.

Its like asking everyone to be gambling for the fun of it, I put it in a different way, consider gambling as something that you just get involved in so you can know and discuss when conversations comes up, whether you win or loose, it is nothing to worry about as the motive was not just fun but to have an idea and not with big expectations of life changing transformations. Imagine how less worried you'll be from this standpoint.

Rather apt as a comparison really. I've always compared it to something like games or something similar which hasn't really been effective after some point, I guess comparing it to a cinema would be a lot better (and a lot more relatable) to the majority of people. The idea of money might not be in casinos, but hey, it's easy to look at once you see how the "money part" is replaced by the "movie" part of cinemas. It's not supposed to be a completely similar exchange, but rather just push the idea of what the "money" part of casinos signify, which is simply a tool for your entertainment, just like how movies are in cinemas.

I also not find it convincing too to compare gambling into watching a movie. When decided to watch you a movie, you know right at the beginning that youll gain nothing from except the experience of watching the moivie on big screen. Unlike once you place your bet, you are starting to hope taht you will win. Movies definitely have that chill social vibe where you can just kick back and enjoy without any pressure. Gambling on the other hand tends to bring that competitive edge into play. Even if we try to focus on the fun, the potential for making money is always there and its kind of hard to ignore.

But OP is right that we should enjoy playing on it and not make it as a means to make money. I totally agree with that.

Yeah, so it's up to the individual, whether they should gamble for fun like watching cinema as the OP put it, (although there are points that I will not agree), or people wanted to win extra money. And worst maybe there are some that think gamble is a way to make money, like having a regular job or something. But it is not.

Actually in the casino that I frequented, I see some old ladies day in day out, sometimes I will converse to them and they say that they just stay in the casino even if they are not playing because they don't have money. And there are people who knows them, so if this people won, they are giving some to this old ladies. So most likely, it's like a part of their life already. But I didn't ask how's their life outside though.

I appreciate your creativity @OP in linking cinema and gambling. When you watch the previews of some films it will be so attractive that you will be pleased to buy the tickets to view it. In some cases, you will discover that the movie is not what you expected. The quality, character, or even production might become below your standard. Seeing gambling as an entertainment that cannot be predicted just like the movie is a good one. Just as the movie might be interesting or not, that is how you can win or lose in gambling.

Watching movies is a good example because it does not cost much to buy a ticket, which also points to the fact that we should gamble will a little portion of our income. People who see gambling as their major source of income either become addicts or suffer from financial problems.  

Gambling is way different from going to the cinema because in gambling, there's a chance to win, unlike when you go to the movies, where you already know what to expect: entertainment.

In gambling, there's a sense of entertainment, but let's be honest with ourselves—do we still feel entertained even when we lose? We enjoy gambling because we're seeking the thrill, and we don't need to deceive ourselves by saying we're only in it for entertainment. In reality, we're chasing that win.

I believe what we should practice is convincing ourselves that what we lose is an amount we can afford to lose, so it won't be too hard for us to move on.

You cannot compare gambling to watching cinema because by gambling you have a chance to make money, even though both can give you entertainment, on gambling, there is money involved and a chance to make a profit from your bets, this is the reason why gambling is addictive, especially for gamblers who once tasted how to win big money in gambling.

We all want to be responsible gamblers, but the temptation is just too high and we extend our hours and bet more, once we experience how to win a big amount of money we will always take a chance to make more money until we develop the addiction, we're not only going for the money we are also going for the feeling as well, the feeling of satisfaction this is the dopamine effect of playing longer hours in gambling.

The pressure is always there for gambling but there is no pressure in watching movie except you are the type that is not able to understand it is a movie and you go into anxiety especially for women and few men who feels that anxiety and this is usually with scary movie but nothing of such in gambling and if there are, it is for winning whose reason is because of the money involved and financial expectation that is involved if you win. 

Visiting the cinema is not bad but there is a lot of difference between casino games and cinema. We can only enjoy watching movies but in gambling game many people play for fun but if luck is good then there is a chance of winning and the person earns some money. It is not always possible but it happens many times by force of luck but in cinema there is no hope of getting anything like this. Gambling is a game of chance so there is no definitive way to prove gambling but if you are serious apply the techniques and enjoy yourself. Responsible gamblers have an independent mindset and therefore can employ simple strategies with ease. Apart from this their analytical nature helps them to turn disagreements in their favor.

I think he chose the wrong simile in this case, and yes I agree with you, OP is comparing things that are not apple to apple to get his point across.
The thing that is impossible for someone to get when watching and playing gambling, is that when we play gambling we will have the opportunity to win even though luck is very rare, but what do we get from watching, sometimes when I go to the cinema we don't get pleasure, in fact You could end up getting bored because the film you watched was not what you expected.

But I think you also understand the meaning that the OP wants to convey, and I agree that gambling is a place to find pleasure, if you cannot be responsible in the gambling you do then you will experience misery at the end of the story.

That's a wrong analogy my friend, because there is no how we can ever treat Gambling as if we are going to watch a movie at the Cinema, because do we stand any chance of making any money by going to watch a movie at the Cinema? The answer is No, but when it comes to gambling you have a high tendency of getting entertained and still making some cool money if you are lucky enough to win a game while playing.

Though that winning while gambling is rare, but doesn't mean people don't win, and as such it's good and advisable for people to gamble away with the little amount of funds they can always afford to lose, if in case game doesn't go as planned.

It's easy to say but difficult to do. When you are deep in losses you tend to have a different point of view about gambling. You want your money back, simple as that. A cinema entertains you with a wide variation of stories with climaxes that will jump your different emotions. I don't think it's the same as gambling. Two emotions are coming out in gambling, happy when winning and angry when losing because you feel like you are being cheated.
There's no laughing thing in online gambling sites, no comedy. Most of the time it's just madness that will come out from gamblers because they are on a losing streak. Check the chatbox of each popular gambling site, you will see how mad players are because they feel like the game is always rigged whenever they play.
I think the bigger question is, why are they still going back after they wrecked all their money to zero balance?

That's true, and only a true gambler can really feel the difference between gambling and going to the movies. It's hard to compare these two because when you go to the cinema to watch a movie, there's no risk involved. However, gambling itself is inherently a high-risk activity.


That's because we're chasing the thrill, not necessarily the entertainment. We can truly feel entertained only when we win. But regardless of the outcome, the thrill in gambling, especially when we place significant bets, is something that can truly fulfill us if we win or make us feel down if we lose.

That's why people often say that gambling isn't for the faint of heart, as it's an experience filled with mixed emotions.

So what genre of movies will these be? Could be drama :)
I can see the problem that the OP mentioned is common, entertainment gradually disappears or it doesn't exist and just wants to change the concept to profit from users. Yes I very much agree, if we keep the state of entertainment with gambling games as well as bring in small amounts of fun. The reality is that gamblers are people who are dedicated to the wealth of a gambling game, I also think that only when someone has enough experience will they see this problem as truly simplified. Regarding the movie, different from the OP's mention, I think that each of us has our own movie and common movies, when we understand enough, we will know which brings benefits to life.

That's how I take it, with the only difference being that in the cinema you simply spend the money to enjoy the experience, and in gambling you can walk out with more money than you came in with. One good thing I have is that if I get lucky and win a big prize or a medium prize that gives me a profit from the session, I take it and go. I don't make the mistake of many people who think they are on a roll, keep betting and end up losing their winnings and more. When you are lucky in a session you have to leave and enjoy the money, losing sessions will come, many of them.

Many individuals will still ignore this advice because they think they can become lucky too like those individuals that are lucky and always win. Casino advertisment make it look like it's easy to win and alot of individual fall for this. Casino influencers also make it look like winning while gambling is easy like how they did with trading Bitcoin and everyone is thinking you can make profit very easy. Gambling should be a form of entertainment and if we want to make money, we have to look for jobs and apply.

Gambling with the mindsets of making money can make us become depressed when we don't win and also lead us into addiction as we continue gambling in search of profits. Gambling under pressure can't make you profit so you'll continue wasting all the money you have gambling and instead of making profits, you'll be losing and becoming broke. Those that gamble because they want to make money lose more than they profits but they don't realize because when when they finally win, their joy covers up all the loses in their mind.

That is true but once you watch a movie that you like you go on searching for other movies to watch and the same analogy applies to this type of gambling you are inviting to which is great but it can never remain only fun.The reason being very simple,once you win out of nowhere you want more as the greed is deep in our roots as humans,we are created greedy and if we have a castle we want another and so on until death is upon us,we spend our life trying to improve it forgetting that the end is the same.With this I don't want to add pessimism to our already boring lives in some cases but to stop treating gambling as fun as no matter it starts as fun it can never remain that way.

No matter how many times we tell them about that, there are still gamblers who won't do those reminders, because there are and are indeed gamblers who are greedy and wild about money, and besides that, they can't think of gambling as a hobby.

Instead, they will think of it as a source of income. But at least we reminded them so that when the time comes that they also realize that they made a wrong decision and did not listen to the warnings of others here, like you are doing here, they will understand that they should have just made gambling a pastime. They are just starting to get into crypto gambling.

People are now gambling because they needed the two altogether, they wouldn't want to prefer one and leave the other except for those who already have their money but willing to make fun out of gambling, they may not take winning or making money a serious task to do.


Cinema in this context is another different thing entirely, people knows what they want and they cannot reason that way except if they are not financially challenged before gambling, such a way that they are not running after winning to make money but gambling only for entertainment.

Wait, cinema and gambling are two different options, different ways of working, all the activities carried out for both are very different, obviously they cannot be equated or made like the two, gambling is a game and money, watching cinema, Gambling is addictive, cinemas are not detected as addictive, people go to the cinema just to watch, not to make money.

If you associate gambling entertainment with cinema entertainment, that is a wrong understanding, because if you interpret entertainment it has a broad meaning, such as: entertaining the heart, fun, joy and so on, for me the two things cannot be used as examples and equated.

It should be like that, or you can assume any money you use for gambling is already lose.

People can't accept to lose money in gambling, but surprisingly they can accept it when they visiting a cinema, watching circus, playing gacha game, donating to streamers etc. No one mad and say going to cinema is bad, but there are a lot people say gambling is bad when the purpose of both are for entertain.

Gambling was made to satisfy someone's willingness to win and in some sort that you'll not regret what's going to happen. For me, that's entertainment, it just so happens that there are other individuals that doesn't view it that way and they stick on to that belief that they need to make money out of it. If you want to make money then build your own casino or gambling house, that way you always win.

This is not new. It has been mentioned many times that gambling should not be to make money, but to have fun. And if there are other activities you can engage in to have fun, then you do not necessarily need to gamble.

Having the mindset when gambling that you are spending money on the regular expense to have fun like the money you spend in the cinema, in the club, in that fancy restaurant etc. will help you not to think too much about it whenever you loose money to gambling.

We can't tell that to anyone since each of us have different intention on why we gamble that's why we cannot say that to have fun especially if the person is eager to earn money on gambling. Maybe we should let them discover how hard to acquire some profits on it and think about having fun rather than spending some time to think about winning a huge prize for what they do. But sometimes if we really think about it there's nothing wrong for aiming to win since maybe it gives us inspiration to gamble for more with proper precautions.

 But if we can't afford to lose and doesn't find it fun if our chance to win is so slim then its better for those people to stop spending their hard earned money from gambling but rather they should use it on other important matter that possibly generate them some good profit share like investment on any other options they like.

This has been in discussion since a long time that gambling should be only kept as a form of entertainment.
Many people don't do this and get serious with gambling. They chase their losses and keep losing money.
The repeated gambling makes them an addict and this is how it has been going on.
The thing of concern is that although many people know this yet they fall for this cycle.

Exactly OP, you are on point. Gambling should be seen as entertainment and not a means of making money. If you are a discipline gambler, you will know all these because, you wouldn't be allowed to let your emotions to control you when you are losing, and you will always set aside an amount that you will use to gamble, wherever you want to gamble to avoid you using money for important things to gamble. Any gambler that don't understand this, will end up chasing his losses and might end up being an addict.

The reason why we interact or spend our time with gambling is because most of us use it as our pastime and at the same time earn prizes from winning. For me it is not like the cinema as you will not be able to experience loss in it just a break even for buying tickets and snacks for yourself. Most of the time, going to cinema is worth the money we spend in there unlike in gambling that there is high chance of losing all you've got. Even if we are treating gambling like one of those examples I don't think we will get the same experience. They are totally different. In gambling we are expecting something good but in movies we already know it is pure entertainment.

Only those that have got to learn through the hard way about seeing gambling as a means to make money can obviously read the handwriting and digest it without arguing about gambling not being a source of making money. Contemplating on this i remember a comment from a thread that was arguing about how professional gamblers have been able to make money and live rich through gambling which made me wonder how's that possible if they don't have another sources of income and invests.

Too much expectations by gamblers on their bets  to get a win and make them money is such a bad attitude that can rob you from enjoying and catching the fun that was supposed to be derived from gambling plays. And it makes sense to me whenever I see posts like this refreshing our minds about not too getting attached to money making through gambling but rather focus more on the fun side to be at parallel with the activity.

Yes, that is the correct approach towards gambling. Some people like going to the movies, others go bowling, others go travelling and eating out, while there are people who just want to go gambling. So instead of spending their money on every other activities people are used to, they spend it on their bets, and that shouldn't be seen as a waste of money, because it's part of their personal preferences to spend gambling, and not doing other hobbies.

I take this by the example of someone who were very close to me and didn't have pleasure going to the movies anymore. Instead, she loved gambling at casinos. That was what brought entertainment to her and even not enjoying the fact she was losing money this way, I think I should have felt happy, because gambling was the activity which was at least putting a smile on her face and bringing some joy to her life...

Here you are talking about those gamblers who gamble for fun and entertainment and they treat gambling as an expense towards their entertainment. Unlike other gamblers the lost in gambling is not a big concern for them. Also they do not run after the profits and winning the game is not the only motive for them.

I think these are the people who really enjoy gambling, they gamble in a relax mode and since there is no pressure of winning the games they feel truly entertained by gambling on the casinos.

In cinema, you won't expect to lose but want to achieve advances to your new girlfriend while in gambling you are expecting to win some money. But if you are losing a substantial amount already, it's gonna be hard for you to have fun playing in a casino.

The only way I can see this to possibly continue enjoying your day is to stop before you lose more. Because when you are not enjoying anymore and you could be agitated already by the loss you made, you may not be able to play well.

Well, it should be but involvement of money simply  creates a different motive for the gamblers. Gambling is more likely invented for entertainment purposes and it evolved or developed over years of its existence. Many people found joy of betting and staking which adds intensity to the result of every game. Consequences as the outcome makes it more entertaining up until people saw something in it such as a source of income or even as a quick way to get rich especially if you’d hit a jackpot. Cinemas and shopping are different from gambling; watching a movie won’t give you an opportunity to atleast double the amount you’ve spent.Is it a bad thing? Depends on how a gambler would take it or handle this activiy.

Definitely, people go to casinos get money easily to earn money. Go elsewhere for fun. Don't engage in self-deception and self-justification for losing money. What else can you say after losing money, except to say that you came to the casino to have fun. :)

This "going to the movies or bowling" looks too very expensive. :) F@ck, yeah, you have absolutely no idea how bad this “film” can turn out to be, and only by being completely left without money and in debt can you “feel” it.

“Fun” should give positive emotions and pleasure, and not bitterness, anger and resentment for lost money that was so needed for family, study, parents, buying a car, house, and so on (choose the appropriate one optionally).

do without gambling.

See I don't know about those who play at casinos but you see those sports betting buys, they are in it for the money. Anyone who say they are in it for the fun of it is lying.

No one is going to listen to this advice but it is good that you have said it. Once a person's mind is made up to gamble for the money, They are going to draw up all sorts of rationalizations for their actions.


Sometimes we get carried away at the casino and forget that it is for fun, to experience the adrenaline rush. We put money first maybe because of our present situation at that time.


I wish we would heed to this advice. Soon we would read another sad casino tale. Watch out.

gambling to try to find entertainment and that's what I do, besides the funds I use are very minimal and that's only a small part of the allocation for gambling. gambling as entertainment to relieve stress from work. If you are lucky and get the jackpot, it is luck. I don't depend too much on gambling, life is still normal even though I don't gamble every day. I am responsible with myself.

I like the side the fact that gambling is not a means of making money, but gambling can give gamblers a chance to have fun and give those that take it as a means of money making, a very sad experience when they don't understand what gambling should be.

Mean while the Cinema is very different from a gaming center or a casino hall, in a cinema, one can enjoy his money but in a gambling center or a casino hall, there is a possibility of losing a being sad at the same time, the guarantee of winning in gambling doesn't come all the time and this makes gambling be like a very hard something for someone who doesn't have the mindset of risking to join.

Hey, I have said this multiple time in some of my previous posts. Seems like you have copied me or something like that lol. But that doesn't matter. What matter is understanding the world of gambling. And as I have said before, gambling is for entertainment purposes only. The amount you put in your account for gambling and the amount you bet on games are the fees that you pay for the entertainment. And whatever you win in your gambling is a bonus for you.

I like your idea of comparing gambling with a movie. I think you have explained it better than me. All we see is a trailer before the movie and then we pay to see the whole movie. Trailers could be good but the whole movie may not be the same. So yeah, you pay first and then you enjoy what you have paid for. And whatever you get in return is a bonus for you for being there. If people treat gambling this way then they could avoid so much problems that comes with gambling if you consider it as a way of income.

Have never really taught about treating gambling same way, maybe this is because I don’t gamble all the time and secondly I also don’t chase big win all the time in gambling and this have help me a lot to stay in the line and don’t use because of high winning to lose focus and start losing games.

But of a truth if one can really play gambling more of fun that the way they play and take it as a source of income their might even be lot of winning and than what they have been losing, because when someone is doing something that they like and having fun why doing it when you less expect for you to make money out of it that’s when the luck usually hit it right and things can just turn around for the person.

We can agree that it's not literally the same but falls under the same category of entertainment, just focus on the spending and get nothing in return financially.

Why we can't treat it the same even if we want too is because of the involvement of money and the excitement of getting more in return if luck favors us but the fact is the house always wins which means we can experience the winning here and there if we are an average joe with average luck factor and it happens for once in a million that we see on the news like someone won life-changing money from betting pennies.

I'd say this is pretty good advice overall.  Honestly it makes me wonder what percentage of people whom gamble end up becoming addicted to gambling.  Going about it as you propose is a smart way to at minimum start gambling.  This way when/if you lose, it's a short term thing with a small loss that's nice sizable to your monthly income.  Stay safe out there all.

I don't know what you mean about opening this thread with the same speculation on what we often discuss here, the context that you conveyed in your argument, is nothing more than to remind people in this forum to gamble based on seeking pleasure only, just like watching a movie as you said, or going to the night market, doing whatever might make you happy while doing it without expecting profit or multiplication of money in the process of your gambling.

Judging from the many threads and characters of the people here I think on average they say the same thing and have the point of view that gambling is a place of entertainment or seeking pleasure and most of them agree on this, so I think here we will talk in circles and make someone say the same thing many times.

I believe the thing with gambling is that no one actually ever feels they want to just gamble like that without the interest of actually making little cash or profits. It only turns to a problem when you actually don't know when to stop gambling even if you are experiencing a losing spree and that's when the act becomes a problem. Gambling is like every other habit we poses or should I say practice because no one was born with it inbuilt. Human tend to over practice some habit of theirs, therefore turning it to something else and instead being something you would enjoy it now becomes a pain in the flesh for you.

I just like the way you write this because people need to learn a lot on how to see gambling as fun not to be taken seriously. If we want to earn good profits from gambling, we needed to learn to do gambling without being an emotional gambler. If we want to make go profits from gambling we need to do that will not make us look tok seriously so it is not going to have effect on us. Those would gamble as there major source of income could become an addict or become too desperate to win bets and by doing this, it will could lead to emotional problem.

So you only go to cinema with new girlfriends? I sometimes go with friends simply to watch the movie. We meet up so that we can grab a beer after and discuss the movie.

Cinema is a little different but OP wants to draw your attention to paying for entertainment.
Maybe going to an amusement park would be a better example?
You decide to spend 2 hours there. You pay for a number of rides and get out. It's possible to lose $100 in 2 hours with ease. Why is it so different to going from table to table and playing roulette or blackjack, losing the same $100 in the process?

We're only disappointed because we have high expectations, just like people who invest in bitcoin. They buy a bitcoin for $100k and start thinking of that new house they're going to buy when it goes up 300% in the bull market. Then it goes down 10% and they panic sell.

In my case, when I play I put a small amount of money that I know I won't miss, but obviously I spend a lot of time analyzing the games I'm going to bet on because this increases my chances of winning, because even though I'm playing with a very small amount of money and play for fun, yet when I analyze the games I do so counting on the fact that if I get it right it would make me happy and compensate me for all the time I spent analyzing the games. and this is very different from films, where the person buys the film and watches it at home and does not make any profit from the money they spent to buy the film, but at least the person has fun watching the film

But when it comes to gambling, no matter how little money a person puts in and plays for fun, the person will still be playing to win and this doesn't just happen with gambling. Even in normal computer games, PS5 or even when people play football with friends, the aim is always to win. no one likes to lose, so people just need to be aware that they must manage their bankroll well to avoid going bankrupt. people should be very responsible when they play, and I'm talking about when they are involved in every game

The way we are gambling will also determine how we are going to have our experience in it, gambling comes in with diverse enticements that suit our taste on different aspects when we are gambling, it's just like what we give to it is what it also reciprocated back to us, when we see gambling as fun to have just like the cinema, then we will always enjoy every bits of our moments gambling because we are satisfied with how we do it responsibly.

As long as you go in with a specific budget, that is comparable to other forms of entertainment and fits reasonably within your overall income, it seems perfectly normal to rationalize playing at a casino in this way. Once a week, once a month, once a year - however much you feel is an acceptable amount for you is fine. The problem comes when you cannot switch it off or walk away, but you have picked up such a habit that you are drawn to it. Addicts are usually trying to chase the game every single day and sometimes every waking moment thinking up schemes on how to play for longer, that is when a serious problem has kicked in. If you ever have second thoughts about breaking off an activity, maybe it is time to give it a rest for a while, moderation is key in life.

Really hard to treat up gambling on just like you are seeing or watching a movie in a cinema, there are really just that things that you cant really be able to treat out something similar just because
they cant really be just that something on this way on which you could really be treating them up considering that spending money and entertainment would really be on different vibe on which means
that you could really be able to get in and get out basing up into your interest but dealing up with games on which you could really be able to make yourself that entertained which is totally opposite
when you are watching a movie then it would really be an another story.

Gambling isnt bad as long you do have that kind of control and moderation but on the time that you do make yourself missed out those basic controls and discipline towards it
then this is where people do really mess up and they do already realize on things when its already too late. People cant really just be able to determine about
the things that they must do until they wrecked up.

Truth be told, I don't think there's anyone who gambles because he wants to lose. we gamble for one reason and that's to win but we shouldn't let money drive us crazy that we fail to adhere to simple gambling principles. I don't see gambling as going to the cinema to watch a movie, if I want to go to the cinema, I'd just go to the cinema. I don't gamble because I want to be entertained, I gamble because I want to win, I'm cautious with my approach, I work with a gambling budget and I call it quit when I'm having a bad day.

That's how I like to treat gambling.

I've always felt like it's healthy to think that you pay for the experience. When you send money to a casino you pay them for the chance to use the service and the money is lost. If you get lucky and get something back to end the experience with profit that's great but don't think it's going to happen every time.

I know it's just a way of explaining a loss to myself but it helps me cope with it and I've never had any problems with depression.

I say it's to always have fun but I know there's some hypocrisy behind it. For one, the only way you can ever have fun in the world of gambling is through earning bags, if you lose consistently there will come a point where gambling is no longer fun for you but a way to stress yourself on command. So when I gamble, I always gamble with the notion that I am here to win, not because I want the money but because I want to have fun. I have set contingencies upon myself to ensure that I don't fall off the deep end even if that is the way that I gamble, I also make sure that I don't miss out on deals and discounts on deposits to make sure that I make the most out of my money. Gambling could be fun if you know how to be fun, if you don't, you're going to have a bad time in it even if you're the most controlled person on the planet.

You wont really be finding yourself to get depressed if you have already anticipated on the thing that would definitely happen into you which is "losing money".Whenever you are really that getting involved with gambling then its always been that wise that you should already anticipate on what would gonna happen so that on the time that you would be facing up losses then you wont really be finding yourself ending up like a mad man.
Gambling is really just that for fun and dont expect something like an assured winning into it because if you do then it would really be just making you desperate and this is something not really that recommended at all.

When you do gamble then it would really be just that wise that you should really be treating it up just like your past time and it would be always better that you do have that kind of treatment so that
you wont really be finding yourself to be that impulsive when it comes to things. Visiting like a cinema or whatever activity that you are really that into.

You would really be just needing to set your mind on what it is and on how to deal with it.You wont really be finding yourself on having that gambling problem
if you do really just make yourself that responsible and this is something that must thing to be done.

The problem with some gamblers most particularly the newbies is that once they spend their money in gambling, they eventually assume that they can also make good returns out from their small capital.  Since the moment they spend might be considered their first loss, so they just don't gamble for fun but they always make sure to chase their losses as well and eventually make more money. That is why these gamblers once they lose consistently, they will never realized anymore why they are gambling in the first place which is to be entertained and make fun.

However, some responsible gamblers are still gambling for fun and not mainly for profits. But if they'll be lucky and earn more money, that's already a bonus from gambling.

If a person can treat gambling as entertainment, he will not gamble excessively, but instead, he can gamble responsibly. He will treat gambling as a type of entertainment so that his focus will not be on gambling alone because he knows there are many other activities that he can use to get entertainment. He can go to the cinema and watch the film he wants or do other things that are also interesting. He will not use gambling to make money, and therefore, he just has fun by gambling and to fill his free time. When a person can be a responsible gambler, he will not gamble excessively and knows when to stop gambling.

I think I've read something very sensible today...
Gambling is never Particularly made to pay you any penny simultaneously.. you're supposed to have that in mind already. It's fine to wager and that's what it is - if you decide to attach some selfish interest, thereby increasing your staking power with expectations at the end, it'll definitely fail you 99 times outta 100 tries.. make your calculations .
I'm not gonna compare it to a movie sort of - cus, it's never been advertised that way... If y'all go to see a movie, y'all know that straight but gambling is different.

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It is an interesting approach, really. I had not thought about wagering in a casino that way.
Usually people would pay a fix amount, around 10-20$, during the experience of going to the cinema and watch a movie, no one goes into a movie theater with the expectation of doing money but just having fun and perhaps have some luck with a date. Keeping that in mind, if I decided to deposit 10$ and managed to get myself as much as entertainment as I would get from a movie, then there would be a reason to cry over losses?
It would come down to whether the gambler had expectations, in the end. As soon as one deposits those satoshis, one should assumed them to be lost, the same way one pays for a cinema ticket.

Regardless of how many times you tell that to the other gamblers, you can't stop them from doing their activities as if they're too dependent on it. You may apply that to yourself that you're gambling for fun and have tons of discussions that people should only gamble for fun.

But we're both agreeing about that being a responsible gambler is a must. It's because there are gamblers that bet with assurance that they'll win even if it is not their money.

Going to that point, it is not really a good thing to see such strategies done by someone. So if you think that you're good paying like a cinema with those losses that will make you feel good, do it.

I buy also into the idea of us approaching gambling with the 100% mindset of just seeking to have fun,  unlike what people have turned gambling to this days,  we now see people gambling all with the sole aim of winning an amount that will change their life and even possibly be gambling to make earns needs and having such mindset towards gambling will only lead you to more loses at the end.

So we just have to accept gambling for what it is,  which is fun and nothing else to that,  if ever you feel like going the extra just to chase something it then means you are becoming over bearing and at that point you can easily lose your games and ultimately lose a lot of money.

I really wouldn't compare gambling to visiting a cinema still, because while we relax with pop corn or some soda during movies, gambling in a casino might require some drink with a stronger punch like Martini or vodka. The feeling is sure different and I think gambling in a casino is more fun with friends, during a vacation, or on some special occasion of sort.
Where it becomes unhealthy is wherein it is being indulged in as a career or as a means to earn quick bucks for continual livelihood.

Uhmm I guess this is completely different form of entertainment and I guess you just cannot treat gambling like that. The ability to earn money or to win from the gambling games makes the difference and it's inevitable for someone to go to a casino not thinking about winning. Some might gamble to have fun and make money as the 2nd motive or vice versa.
Looking to have fun and make money would always come together when we are talking about going to a casino.
Movies that you watch in the cinema will get you entertained most of the time and the activities like bowling will give you enjoyable experience 100%. But gambling won't promise you that you'll not getting pissed and frustrated lol.

I always viewed gambling activities as entertainment is like watching movies in the cinema, enjoying rides, having parties, or going on outings.  So it is inevitable to spend money while engaging in the activity.  The thing is we should keep our spending in check and plan our funds to use as our bankroll before engaging in gambling activities so that it won't interfere with our daily budgets, just like how we plan our funds for outings and other money-spending entertainment activities.

At the beginning people spend as like spending on an entertainment. As days pass things change and people never consider it for entertainment or to have fun. The prime focus turn towards making money, once the user have got this mentality we can't expect things to go good with gambling. Maybe we can allocate fund and take a stand on never to spend above the allocation similar to what is being kept aside for a cinema or some sort of entertainment.

With a movie we pay and we are spending the time watching the movie. What we get through the movie, nothing and we appreciate how good is the cinematography, music, editing, animation and all. With gambling we can't experience it in such a way. We're risking and getting into some form of fearful move that pumps the heartbeat to the peak. This isn't good, but this is what everyone gets through gambling. For users who find themselves bored and to kill time if they wager it is beyond the limits and in such situation getting ourselves deviated to watch a movie or something is good.

The gambler should consider the gambling like the movie or cricket as like the movie time for entertainment.If the gambler doesn’t worry about the loss,So the gambler can’t get addicted to the gambling sites.The gambler will spend the entire money in the gambling sites,So only the experienced will calculate the deposit the money to use in particular game.But the less experience gambler will fail to calculate the money to the gambling in regular basis.Earning is not the important one,it’s essential to multiple the money by using the trading or gambling sites.The good money handling person will increase the number of income in a month.

In as much as many gamblers keep claiming that they gamble for fun, a very huge percentage of them are in it for the money. And the truth is that it's almost impossible for someone to not be tempted to stake more so they'll get more (be it for fun or not). If you must gamble, my advice is that you should have discipline. Have a limit for both win and loss, have a time frame to gamble, learn the game, and not cross the line. Also, note that slow and steady wins the race.

Changing the way you view something isn't simple for most people. It could take time before they can adapt and for other gamblers, it might not happen because they can't remove the thought of making money or chasing losses. I used to play for profit when I started and the entertainment part is only a bonus while i'm winning. After countless losses, it shifted the other way because it's one of the few ways that helped me from spending more than my budget.

I agree, it's not the best comparison when the others already mentioned a few good reasons, but it's enough to understand what OP is pointing out.

Hi, Crypt0Gore... 

At least you touched on the subject of addiction with other "music."

I always say it's entertainment, but! Using your analogy, maybe someone who is a fan of going to the movies could start to like acting, making movies and/or devoting themselves to the seventh art.

So, indeed we can have many equivalences, someone once, in lost conversations, told me that going to a casino for him was like going to a brothel... please, no comments, but the point is to always know what you are doing, there are "entertainment" that can be very harmful.  :)

Each person's motives for gambling can vary, ranging from pleasure, earning money, experience, curiosity, or because of an invitation from a friend. But those who want to find pleasure in gambling can use other methods to get pleasure.

They can go to the cinema as suggested or do other things. But if they stick with gambling, that's a choice for them. And they should be aware that things like losing money and gambling addiction will emerge after they finish playing. If they can accept it, they can continue to use gambling but must always limit themselves so as not to become addicted to gambling.

If they enjoy it, they will have no problems and can be responsible gamblers. But if not, they can experience problems and, worst of all, they can develop a gambling addiction. So when playing gambling, we have to learn to be responsible.

This is the right way but not everyone can understand it. It is because most gamblers are dirt poor and greedy which is a very dangerous combination. Lots of people think gambling is a job and they can get rich if they learn this skill. There are indeed some ways to make it work but all of these methods are banned by the casinos because it makes them lose money. Long story short, gamblers and casinos can’t be the winners together. One of them has to lose so the other could be the winner. People fail to comprehend this simple fact and they think they can quit their jobs and become fulltime gamblers. They don’t realize gambling is way less rewarding than their jobs.

                                         it has been tackled many times before to how we need to treat gambling , but how can anyone deny the fact of desiring to win than to enjoy?
and also when you watch movie Indeed that you will enjoy but never have a chance to win money .
                                         that is so high losing rate , 99%? meaning there is only 1% that winning? lol that is depending on that gambler desire, because mostly we are winning easily but that is only for small wins ,.
and the problem is people wanted to win more that is why they end loser/
                                        are you a fun gambler mate? meaning you can just play letting your money lose just to enjoy?
because it seems to be Odd to see people letting money just like that.
i do it for both , to win and of course to enjoy.

understanding this scenario, it might be natural for a gambler to initially think about making money from gambling because we gamble using money and winning or losing is also about money, but actually this is not the concept in question, whereas the actual concept is that gambling is just a place for entertainment as you said. paying for the entertainment we enjoy and without expecting anything in return for the entertainment we enjoy.
maybe I can sometimes understand if someone might have the wrong mindset towards gambling to make money because it is all involved with "money" so logically people think that gambling is a place to multiply money so I can understand that thought and the advice you give very reasonable and easy for anyone to understand.
and sometimes I also think about how the mindset of someone who continues to gamble with large amounts of money becomes an addiction even though it is just a moment entertainment but gives up his money for fun until he loses control and spends all his savings and with threads like this I hope many people understand that gambling is a place to the momentary pleasure of trying your luck without having to expect any big wins.

The problem is as you described, the attitude of gamblers and their social status. One should never try to gamble with their last money, but so many people do it.
They're poor guys who know they have to live a whole month with less than minimum wage and doubling that would make w huge difference, so they go and bet it to eat better, pay their debts... and they lose and know they'll have to take a loan to survive the month. How can such a person have fun? It's sad reality for these people.

I try to have fun as much as I can and never gamble out of necessity. I only gamble with money I see as free. For example I used to gamble with coins I got from giveaways and airdrops.

The facts is clear, we can not depend on gambling as a stream of income because it's risky and probably out of line when it comes to generating monetary revenue. Quitting jobs and tendering one's focus on gambling is weigh out of the picture, we have to stick to the plan and make proper means to start earning good from the system. We know it's not going to be an easy journey, but taking courage and moving with solid plans will do great help. Losing and winning is our ultimate targets but no gamblers wishes for losses because that's basically poor results that can liquidate one's account.

Yes, gambling should be more addressed as a source of fun and entertainment rather than seeing it as another source of income. However, we can't blame these beginner gamblers not to fall in the trap of gambling because they often witness gamblers that are winning big from casinos and make more money instantly. What they didn't realize is that before these gamblers gained big profits, they incur limitless losses at first until such time that their luck comes in and make them experience on how to make big wins. But we all know that the house won't allow us consistently winning, the reason why a lot of gamblers still losing all their profits in the end and eventually return the money in the casino's house.

Moreover, no matter what aspect you will look in gambling, it still comes down to the reality that to gamble is to lose your money. And a lot of us can prove that that's why its still advisable to be a fun gambler than to put hopes on becoming a profitable gambler.

Gambling is not advertised as it is a risky game but it is more shown as a quick money making game with a lot of fun and entertainment. How often we see the gambling houses advertising that people lost their money from their site, they will always show the positive winnings of the gamblers so that the other people also join and gamble at their site.

It's very hard for any individual to gambling without looking at the financial aspects of the gambling. Yeah, people spend money on entertainment like watch a movie etc and they never regret that they spend the money for the ticket but when it comes to gambling, they will feel sad once they lose in gambling most probably because gambling does not provide so much fun but yeah the attractiveness of gambling lies with the hope of making money in seconds.

Of course for both, currently there are many applications that are similar to casinos but do not require money to play them. When I play an application like that there is no thrilling sensation like when gambling using real money. So in my opinion, gambling is interesting because there is money in it.

Even though some people think that gambling is just for fun, they still hope to get a jackpot or big win in gambling. So, the hope of a big win offered by a casino is something we often hope for even though we know that gambling carries a big risk of losing.

That is exactly how I treat gambling. By completely removing the urge to win money, I have turned the event into something of an entertainment treat for myself. I combined this perspective of betting with a risk-reward strategy. If you have any kind of self discipline, and you can follow your own rules, then you will find yourself no longer losing giant sums of money, just because you were feeling frustrated or lucky.

Just decide on a daily gambling limit and do not change that. Follow that limit strictly and gamble for pure fun. No more angry times ahead :D

It's easier to say but hard to keep. We can just easily say that we want to gamble for fun or go to the casino to have fun, walk from our home down to a casino just to have fun with our pocket filled with money ready to be spent on a few games. Having those fun, those are easily said. We have the fun, but deep down we still need to have some winning from the games that we play. This is what makes the fun more fun (winning games).
 
It's not really bad to chase for profit in gambling, but doing it too much is what makes it appear as if it's bad. Because we play and have fun, it's also good for us to make good game selections that can help us have some honest winning. Going for the winning alone is what makes gambling appear as if it's a hot seat for some, and the fun part is really out of what they really want.

It’s good that you made this statement bold because this is correct, we should enjoy gambling without any pressure of winning because this is gambling after all and their purpose is to entertain as well.

Many gamblers are too focused with their target profit and visit the casinos more often just to achieve it, their success rate is like 2 out of 10, and of course not all will have the same result. If you are a responsible gambler you’ll see this more as for entertainment and you’ll never get pressured just to win your money back.

Exactly. A lot of people downplay the fact that most of the gamblers who fall off into the deep end are either those that feel hopeless in their financial situation  (those who didn't graduate anything of value, are dirtpoor and stuck in their deadend jobs) and those who are not financially literate. They both see gambling as their ticket to escaping this nasty life which couldn't be any closer to the truth since what gambling can only offer you at best is a distraction from your problems, even if you do win in these games lol.

But it's not like people would go out of their way to inform the public of the dangers of gambling for profit, after all how will the casinos earn from these people? How will the earn from referrals and commissions?

If the gambler is less literate person,he will stuggle to build the strategy in the gambling.So he only play the gamblig with the full luck based game.The person who less literate will stuggle to get into the good job with their less education.But some person will be less literate but sound in managing the funds.The education along with the financial handling skills is important thing.The gambler must able to mange the funds for their monthly expenses and allot the separate funds for the gambling every month.So the gambler won’t loss huge money in the gambling by depositing all the earning money in the gambling.