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Title: I don't have good account security.
Post by: BTC_pokaop on November 05, 2023, 05:07:29 AM
I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.



Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: nutildah on November 05, 2023, 05:23:06 AM
You won't receive an email notification upon logging in, and there is no option to do so. There is only the option to receive an email when somebody replies to your post (or in specific threads) or sends you a PM. There is also no 2-FA for the forum, meaning you will have to take good care of your login credentials (don't store them online, for starters).

These options can be found by clicking on Profile, then "Notifications and Email".


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: Solosanz on November 05, 2023, 05:34:21 AM
If I were you I wouldn't think too much because account with 5 activity and 0 merit is almost nothing.

But if you're really don't want to lose your account, you can install one of Bitcoin wallet e.g. Electrum, Bluewallet, Mycelium etc and then post your sign message in this thread Stake your Bitcoin address here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0).


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: cafter on November 05, 2023, 05:34:52 AM
You will not receive any security email after registering, like a confirmation email we receive after creating a new account on any platform.
But you will receive email for other security related issues like to change password.

You can read the "HELP" page on the main menu to learn for features about the forum. or simply click here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=help).


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: rat03gopoh on November 05, 2023, 06:14:02 AM
You can monitor your login IP for the last 30 days on this page https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php
Also use 3rd party resources to monitor security logs (password changes and activity status): https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3581291

Tips for recovering your account from loss/hacking: stake your btc address. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: Charles-Tim on November 05, 2023, 06:28:48 AM
Use a strong password

You can use 2FA to protect the email you used to register on this forum

Do not click on a link on a PM that will lead to a fake page of login that you will input your username and password. If you see anything like that, it is fake. It is just a way a hacker wants to know your username and password.

It is very import to stake your bitcoin address on this forum. Do not lose its seed phrase or private key because your wallet sign a message with private key, while seed phrase can always generate the private key.

You can always check your IP logs. But if you follow everything that I haves mentioned before, the chance that your account will be hacked is very little or highly not possible.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: tranthidung on November 05, 2023, 07:39:59 AM
I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.
Forum account: security, privacy, and recovery (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261696.0)
[GUIDE] How to Create a Strong/Secure Password (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132378.0)
Are your passwords in the green? (https://www.hivesystems.io/blog/are-your-passwords-in-the-green)

Read a first topic and some topics about account recovery, you will understand about steps for account recovery then know what you must do to secure your account now as well as can be helpful for you in account recovery in future.

Next two topics are about passwords, how to have a strong passwords to avoid password brute force.

Some members advised you to stake your Bitcoin message. Beyond that you can stake your PGP key.
The BCT PGP/GPG Public Key Database: Stake Your PGP Key Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159946.0)
Receive Merit - Post your PGP key, add an encrypted message, open for anyone. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461523.0)


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: mk4 on November 05, 2023, 07:53:33 AM
You won't get account security settings on Bitcointalk as you would see on your social media accounts — we do things a little bit differently here. Choose a strong password, then stake and sign here[1] using your bitcoin wallet address.


[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: hugeblack on November 05, 2023, 08:39:36 AM
I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.



As much as there are no security tools, they are good for those who want to enhance their privacy. You do not need an email to log in here, but you do need it if you want to recover your account. To secure your account, you need to prepare a strong password. Make sure that you can access the email associated with the account and sign a message with the Bitcoin address. Make sure someone else has quoted it.

There is no benefit from hacking Bitcoin accounts, so most hacker attacks are for blackmail, or using the account to join signature campaigns.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 05, 2023, 08:56:46 AM
I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.



As much as there are no security tools, they are good for those who want to enhance their privacy. You do not need an email to log in here, but you do need it if you want to recover your account. To secure your account, you need to prepare a strong password. Make sure that you can access the email associated with the account and sign a message with the Bitcoin address. Make sure someone else has quoted it.

There is no benefit from hacking Bitcoin accounts, so most hacker attacks are for blackmail, or using the account to join signature campaigns.

^second all that

Download a password manager like Bitwarden. Use an encrypted email service. Make a pc only account (main account) and one for cellular use (that is if it will be used less often). That way if your phone is sim swapped it won’t be for your main account and you can post on here not to trust your mobile account now because of it. If it’s a low ranking lightly used account hackers won’t want it anyhow.  Also the staking a btc account as others have mentioned. Doing all this is more than enough security.  2FA would be nice though.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: SmartGold01 on November 05, 2023, 09:20:25 AM
I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.



You are correct that is why you need to choose a very strong password that could be too hard for people especially your friends to memorize or remember. There has been lots of discussion to increase and implement some functionality to protect account against hack but there was no attention given to it because that isn't the sole purpose but rather is an open place for people to get access to their details whenever it's being misplaced. So I suggest you can change password and choose a more complicated one so that it will be too difficult to hack.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: robelneo on November 05, 2023, 02:09:37 PM
I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.



When in Rome do as the Romans we have our way of securing our account and you have to follow what members are doing here to secure their account, get a strong password, be sure you have a clean PC, and stake your wallet here in case there is an intrusion to your account,  people here can easily validate your account and it's your way to recover your account too.
Security should start with the user there's no need to worry about why no email is coming when registering, you will get notified when you receive a personal message or get your post deleted just be sure to whitewash the Bitcointalk notification, everything is working perfectly here you just have to adapt to this community and you are good to go.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: philipma1957 on November 05, 2023, 03:26:02 PM
A long random password. And the ability to access your starting email.

Also get a btc address stake it. Learn to sign it.

Your password should be at least 16 letters upper and lower case along with some symbols and some numbers.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: PX-Z on November 05, 2023, 03:35:02 PM
..that is why you need to choose a very strong password that could be too hard for people especially your friends to memorize or remember. ...
So I suggest you can change password and choose a more complicated one so that it will be too difficult to hack.
"To memorize" you mean to guess? Because why would your friend able to memorize it if he didn't see your password, well if he did, better change it asap.

Passwords that are "complicated" are easy to forget unless you use a password manager which i recommend, better to use familiar words you ONLY know with a combination of numbers and symbols.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: Marvelman on November 05, 2023, 03:51:20 PM
Hey there! Welcome to the forum!  Don't stress too much about the email notifications thing.  I'm sure it's not a big security problem or anything.  Just double check that your email is right in your profile, just in case you ever need to recover your password.  But the main thing is having a solid password thats hard to break.  As long as your password is strong, it's really unlikely that someone could hack your account or anything, unless you do something careless like use the same password for multiple sites or click on sketchy links and end up on phishing sites.

Basically as long as you use smart online security practices, your account should be fine and secure even without the email notifications and  anyway, hope this helps put your mind at ease! Enjoy the forums!


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: Adbitco on November 05, 2023, 06:36:08 PM
The most recommendable account security is to stake your bitcoin address on the forum just as few people already said and the only way to restore your account from hack is to provide the previously used address by signing back a message. Alternatively you have to use a solidify password that you don't regularly used maybe that is not known by anyone else not even your spouse or fiance.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: ShowOff on November 05, 2023, 08:06:28 PM
By default, the bitcointalk forum will send you a notification email if a hacker succeeds in changing your password or changing your email. Otherwise any security is your responsibility including some suggestions that have been given to you by other users before my post. Apart from using a strong password, you should also avoid using disposable emails so that one day you can more easily recover your account if a hack occurs. Signing bitcoin messages can certainly help, but consistently maintain your security, including by surfing safely on the internet. One more thing, don't use the same email to register on other sites, especially with the same password.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: SamReomo on November 05, 2023, 08:54:34 PM
I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.



You are your account's security and you'll have to make it secure yourself. Only register your account with an e-mail that you can access only and make sure to have a strong password for your account. Don't have sign into the account from someone else's device and try your best to keep your account's private data as secret as possible. That's the only way to be secured from hackers otherwise your account can get stolen and unfortunately it will be hard for you to get access to your account again.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: _BlackStar on November 05, 2023, 10:28:12 PM
I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.
Don't worry too much - you just need to learn to carry out normal practices so that your account security can be better. It doesn't matter what your current posts and activity are - but security practices are recommended to keep your account safe. Nowadays no one really wants to hack a beginner with very low activity - unless you have announced that you have a lot of bitcoin somewhere.

Learn how to sign bitcoin messages - then do as suggested. If you do it well without any mistakes - then I believe your account will be safe. Anyway - use TOR if you care about privacy and don't store any of your data online.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: DYING_S0UL on November 06, 2023, 04:36:03 AM
If your bitcointalk password is compromised, there is no way to revert this. There is no 2FA or extra layer of security.

1. Use a good unique strong password.
2. Use 2FA in email address that you used to register.
3. Stake your BTC address.


There is one crucial thing you can do to protect your bitcointalk account. You can stake your BTC address and sign a message. In case your your account is compromised or hacked, or your email is changed, you can still recover your account if you can sign from your staked BTC address again. You just have to sign a message saying, "your account is hacked and you wanna recover that" or show theymos some recent transaction on that old staked address. 

Stake your bitcoin address here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0)

You must not lose your staked BTC address. If you lose it, there is absolutely no way to recover your account. It's lost forever.  :)


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: cafter on November 06, 2023, 07:17:15 AM
OP was asking that, he didn't received any confirmation email after registering an new account, which is bad for forum security so it needs to improved.
and here many users are posting about unrelated topics.
@BTC_pokaop You can lock this thread now you question has been answered here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472894.msg63106930#msg63106930).


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: arhipova on November 06, 2023, 10:16:37 AM
All forums have different way of operation. This forum also puts considerable efforts to keep accounts of members secure. Like, there is a separate bug bounty program by the forum owner where security researchers can report security bugs. Very few online forums have such a bug bounty program with respectable payouts.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: PytagoraZ on November 06, 2023, 07:42:39 PM
I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.


When registering on bitcointalk, the forum does not send notifications to email. But I think this is good, that way no one knows which email we use to register on bitcointalk. The easiest way to protect your account is to create a strong password. If you haven't already, you can change your password


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on November 06, 2023, 08:02:53 PM
Your best course is to stake an address in here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0). Something like your address followed by a signed message; "BTC_pokaop here, staking my address in a shiny morning of November 6th, 2023".

You cannot recover a hacked account without a signed message: Recovering hacked/lost accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089777.0). You can use strong, encrypted password and the like, but in the end, just as with Bitcoin, the private key provides evidence of ownership. Definitely backup a seed phrase which can be used to derive your staked address, and never use that wallet for any other purpose.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: Z_MBFM on November 07, 2023, 02:49:26 PM
I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.

This forum gives you a freedom. You must enter the correct email address when you create an account. And email address is not a strong security for this forum. The Bitcoin address you use on this forum is the biggest security for your account. And if your account is hacked, you can easily recover the account anytime by signing the Bitcoin address message. And this is a strong enough security for this forum


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: coin-investor on November 10, 2023, 12:24:04 PM
I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.


No one is complaining except you, all you have to do is to create a very strong password and kept it to yourself, be sure that your PC has a good anti virus, you should not rely on email verification only for securing your accounts.

What makes Bitcointalk is you can stake your Bitcoin address here so in case you lose your account, you can easily recover it, and if your account is compromised the community will see to it that the one who stole your account cannot use your account, while you are in the process of recovering your account.
I also did not get an account verification when I first sign up, and already active here for years and I did not made a complaint, you have to educated yourself on how to protect your account and do not rely it on any platforms.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: Smartvirus on November 10, 2023, 02:42:40 PM
It’s a norm that, added layer of security by meals of having your mails verified during registration isn’t put in place by the forum but, it’s that’s hardly a security measure don’t you think?
It’s just by some means to ensure your mail address is correct and you’ve got access to it. It doesn’t have much to do with security of the account.

Means of adding layers of security to your account are as stated in quote;
1. Use a good unique strong password.
2. Use 2FA in email address that you used to register.
3. Stake your BTC address.
1 and 2, insured you on the forum but not off forum with regards to mail compromise. In a case where your mail address is compromised, being prompt to act on notification keeps you safe.

But, the forum has a more better trick in the staking and signing of address.
These are unique means by tying an account to a wallet address which is 100% secure depending on how private and secretive you are with your private key.
It ensures even should your account be hacked successfully, it could be recovered from the hacker following due procedures.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: AbuBhakar on November 10, 2023, 02:48:33 PM
OP was asking that, he didn't received any confirmation email after registering an new account, which is bad for forum security so it needs to improved.
and here many users are posting about unrelated topics.
@BTC_pokaop You can lock this thread now you question has been answered here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472894.msg63106930#msg63106930).

It’s not simple like that if you knew what’s the real deal of OP. He is claiming that forum is not secure in general because of that lack of email notifications whenever he login not only when he register that’s why many user suggest different approach on how to secure Bitcointalk account without relying on an email notification.

I really found it absurd to rely on a mere notification just to secure an account since a strong password and not logging in on unsecured device is a hood start to have confidence on securing account.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: knowngunman on November 11, 2023, 09:20:10 AM
If I were you I wouldn't think too much because account with 5 activity and 0 merit is almost nothing.

Are you saying that account with less activity and merits should worry less about securing their account? This opinion is not appropriate to me because you can not create account today and become a legendary. You must definitely have to start from some where. Although, if op has taken time to read about the security feature on the forum, he would have gotten information and know what to do. Op, Bitcointalk  has security measures in place like SSL encryption but if you're using the same password on multiple sites, or if you're not being careful about clicking links in emails, then you're putting yourself at risk. Even if bitcointalk.org is secure, your own actions can make you vulnerable. The security of your account is your absolute responsibility and you should take it seriously.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: minoxpro on November 11, 2023, 09:43:55 AM
Hello there! I'd like to respond to your question . You won't receive an email or notification on this forum.just if someone replies to your post, you can employ a Telegram bot to track your merits and activities ; Additionally assword recovery requires verification.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: JollyGood on November 11, 2023, 11:18:17 PM
You created your account a month ago and already made several posts but you seem to have realised a month later about the security issue and created this thread? If you think security should have been given, can you at least define the word "security" in the context you see it because it has a very wide terminology.

I am new to this forum and have not learned anything yet. I don't see the account security in this forum, I opened the account and got no email notification, I logged in again and still no email notification. I think security should have been given while making this account.


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: Pmalek on November 12, 2023, 08:08:34 AM
It is a bit unusual nowadays not to receive email notification after registering but not a reason to get worked up about it. The fact that there is an error message after submitting the registration form is weirder.
Anyway, whether or not you can protect your Bitcointalk account is a good test to see if you can protect your bitcoin and its keys. If you fail at keeping your account safe, you are doing one or many things wrong that may eventually lead to you losing your bitcoin as well. 


Title: Re: I don't have good account security.
Post by: stadus on November 12, 2023, 08:15:32 AM
Like others suggest, secure your bitcointalk account by staking it; that's the only security measure I've found necessary here on the forum. Recovering your account takes time, and some may never recover their accounts. It's better to prevent your account from being hacked.

Not necessarily by changing your password every time, as that might lead to forgetting your password too. Instead, avoid downloading unknown applications that could potentially steal your passwords. Also, be cautious when checking the URL of the site you are visiting. For this forum, it should be 'https://bitcointalk.org'.....no more, no less, as there are fake sites out there.