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Title: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: letteredhub on November 05, 2023, 11:10:47 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

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Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: OgNasty on November 05, 2023, 11:22:17 PM
Given how AI and markets both work in similar ways, I’m curious how accurate AI models will be when it comes to Bitcoin. It would make sense to me if AI were able to predict things better than people when it comes to Bitcoin, considering Bitcoin is in my opinion less manipulatable than traditional investments.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 05, 2023, 11:28:04 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

AI or not, some experts have also collectively looked at the market, the price chart of Bitcoin, and made their prediction that Bitcoin was going to hit $40k towards the end of the year. Those AIs are also using information from the past price history of Bitcoin to make their predictions. The fact that those AI predicted $45k doesn't mean it's very accurate; it's still speculation, just like humans have always speculated. Nothing special. The AI is not speaking with a guarantee that Bitcoin must get to $45k before December 31. When we speculate about prices, it sometimes doesn't work like that because the market is not in our control. The same is applicable to AI; they don't control the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: LogitechMouse on November 06, 2023, 07:12:30 AM
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Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
It's a safe prediction coming from AI's TBH.
I mean we've seen Bitcoin's price increasing from around $30,000 to now $35,000 just because of a ticker symbol. Just imagine what can happen if another ETF-related positive news appears online again. I guess if it's Blackrock related again then it might push the price up even more.

Bitcoin during the final months of the year usually is going up, so these AI's just based their prediction on the past movements of Bitcoin. Nothing unusual or surprising.

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Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .
I don't want to rely on AI with price prediction and at the same time, I don't want to rely on these analysts as well. I don't want to rely on anybody when it comes to price predictions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Richbased on November 06, 2023, 07:21:12 AM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

Inasmuch as I know AI is just speculating the price of bitcoin in consideration with the current price now, just like every other human is doing their own speculation. Bitcoin is a volatile asset and has the tendency of fluctuating in it's price in the market so projecting the price to be around $45,000 towards the end of the year may not be as accurate as the AI predicted but however the best option now is still to buy and HODL


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: kentrolla on November 06, 2023, 07:48:38 AM
I see a lot of people agreeing with AIs prediction and some syas that there has been experts opinion on similar terms that Bitcoin will be finishing this year around $45k mark but I repeat once again not to blindly follow anyone who claims to be experts and AI will source it's result through various analysis and logical reasoning available on web but either of them could go wrong because if we go by AI then all the signals generated by AI bot while trading should be accurate but that isn't the case and if we have to believe in expert's opinion they are the same people who once said Bitcoin will reach $100k back in 2018 which turned out to be a disastrous year, I still remember towards the end 2018 Bitcoin was trading at $3000 the same people used to say Bitcoin is a bubble which has bursted. Please do your own research and analysis along with the news and events related to Bitcoin it will give you best direction about the price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: letteredhub on November 06, 2023, 08:13:16 AM
I see a lot of people agreeing with AIs prediction and some syas that there has been experts opinion on similar terms that Bitcoin will be finishing this year around $45k mark but I repeat once again not to blindly follow anyone who claims to be experts and AI will source it's result through various analysis and logical reasoning available on web but either of them could go wrong because if we go by AI then all the signals generated by AI bot while trading should be accurate but that isn't the case and if we have to believe in expert's opinion they are the same people who once said Bitcoin will reach $100k back in 2018 which turned out to be a disastrous year, I still remember towards the end 2018 Bitcoin was trading at $3000 the same people used to say Bitcoin is a bubble which has bursted. Please do your own research and analysis along with the news and events related to Bitcoin it will give you best direction about the price.
I don't think this prediction is the same as those ones you're talking about, I mean the way it was conducted is quite different from those of the experts you had mentioned. If six different AI chatbots should make similar result then it's something to watch out for, even as that if any one decides to run analysis and study of the market on his own he's still going to make use of past bitcoin historical chart to guide him to conclusion, similar way these AI followed in gathering the information to arrive to the $45k prediction. No market prediction is accurate but at some point we have to work with something eventually.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Texac on November 06, 2023, 08:28:11 AM
I see a lot of people agreeing with AIs prediction and some syas that there has been experts opinion on similar terms that Bitcoin will be finishing this year around $45k mark but I repeat once again not to blindly follow anyone who claims to be experts and AI will source it's result through various analysis and logical reasoning available on web but either of them could go wrong because if we go by AI then all the signals generated by AI bot while trading should be accurate but that isn't the case and if we have to believe in expert's opinion they are the same people who once said Bitcoin will reach $100k back in 2018 which turned out to be a disastrous year, I still remember towards the end 2018 Bitcoin was trading at $3000 the same people used to say Bitcoin is a bubble which has bursted. Please do your own research and analysis along with the news and events related to Bitcoin it will give you best direction about the price.

Many people agree with that prediction because they are also hoping and expecting bitcoin to reach that price by the end of this year.  I think at this point there won't be too many people hoping for bitcoin to fall more to buy, but instead everyone wants bitcoin to grow and reach a higher price.  so, any prediction of a higher bitcoin price than it is now will be supported by everyone. 

But the market is unpredictable and I have even less confidence in what the AI predicts as if it could predict what the market will be like in the future.  so do we need to learn more knowledge?


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on November 06, 2023, 08:44:30 AM
Yes, well, that's a reasonable prediction, within the range of what I expect the price to be.

Given how AI and markets both work in similar ways, I’m curious how accurate AI models will be when it comes to Bitcoin. It would make sense to me if AI were able to predict things better than people when it comes to Bitcoin, considering Bitcoin is in my opinion less manipulatable than traditional investments.

As there is a degree of unpredictability, I expect AI to be wrong sometimes, but to tend to be less wrong than humans, and more so over time, as it continues to learn.It is not clear to me whether it will be more accurate with bitcoin than with traditional investments, though.



Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Yamane_Keto on November 06, 2023, 10:02:10 AM
I will keep repeating that articles on Bitcoin.com News are often misleading or have inaccurate narratives.
Artificial intelligence predictions depend on the quality of the inputs and on the artificial intelligence algorithm used, but they are no better than technical analysis indicators, which measure price changes in specific periods or according to trading volumes. Therefore, $45k is a good prediction for Bitcoin prices, and only two resistance levels separate us from it, which They will probably be broken within the next 30 days. this prediction is possible.

On Github there are some codes for open source Bitcoin AI prediction services but I doubt it has reasonable accuracy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: KingsDen on November 06, 2023, 10:28:46 AM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

Tbh, there's nothing serious to be considered here. It is a mere prediction by AI which is no where close to accuracy because there's no standard data from which AI formed the decision apart from random speculations.
If you are conversant with AIs, you will understand that they do not predict the future. They only say things that has happened in the past or future things with former occurrences.

Before the AI results, most of us including myself have predicted that the highest bitcoin can go this year is 45k. It is based on this popular prediction by most people that AI gave those speculative answers. So, the result is believable but the market may decide to surprise everyone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Republikcoin.com on November 06, 2023, 11:10:55 AM
Inasmuch as I know AI is just speculating the price of bitcoin in consideration with the current price now, just like every other human is doing their own speculation. Bitcoin is a volatile asset and has the tendency of fluctuating in it's price in the market so projecting the price to be around $45,000 towards the end of the year may not be as accurate as the AI predicted but however the best option now is still to buy and HODL
AI is not a machine that predicts the future and is also not an observing machine that happens by itself because this tool was also created by humans so its predictions for the price of Bitcoin are not much different from what many people are saying or predicting at the moment. I only have a price speculation of $40K for the end of this year although there could be enough time for Bitcoin to rise to $45K from now, because predicting the price of Bitcoin accurately is actually still quite difficult even though there are many tools that can be used to analyze the price through what that has happened in the market now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: dunfida on November 06, 2023, 12:42:45 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

AI or not, some experts have also collectively looked at the market, the price chart of Bitcoin, and made their prediction that Bitcoin was going to hit $40k towards the end of the year. Those AIs are also using information from the past price history of Bitcoin to make their predictions. The fact that those AI predicted $45k doesn't mean it's very accurate; it's still speculation, just like humans have always speculated. Nothing special. The AI is not speaking with a guarantee that Bitcoin must get to $45k before December 31. When we speculate about prices, it sometimes doesn't work like that because the market is not in our control. The same is applicable to AI; they don't control the market.
We should really be thinking or realize for ourselves that AI is really that basing up on what are those past events on which there's no way that it could really be able to make up some prediction in speaking about those past events. It could be right and it could be wrong, there's no way for AI could tell even human beings. Everything could really be always that random and this is why you should really be that having that kind of prediction
and never ever make yourself do think about being precise because there's no way that you could really be able to predict on where prices could go.For now then there's no way that we could really be able to get that 45k
on this year end but we know that it is really that hard to break that certain point specially on 35k. We are already that 2 months left for this year on which it is really that short already
and if we do really trying to look into the price movement then it is really that too hard to tell that we could be able to reach that but if we do have that kind of positive news then it might be possible
but it seems that it is really not able to reach out that point but well who knows? Market is always been that unpredictable.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Nrcewker on November 06, 2023, 12:43:36 PM
AI gives answers or prompts based on past trends or history. So definitely we can’t rely on AI’s predictions. Yes what we can do is just estimate the market conditions using AI, it’s analysis power will surely help us to conclude a final result. If you ask me then I think Bitcoins will cross 50k usd by the end of this year. This is because, Bitcoins follow a 4 year cycle to reach ATH price and 2024 is the 4th year. So fingers crossed and let’s hope for the best.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: hugeblack on November 06, 2023, 01:40:48 PM
I read the article and was expecting that there was a methodology or deep analysis of artificial intelligence data, but all I found was that they presented the text condemning everyone who Anthropic (Claude) Google Bard, Openai Chatgpt 3.5, and Chatgpt 4, and Microsoft's Bing Creative.
The text of the question was:

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This experiment aims to determine the price of bitcoin by the end of 2023. As an expert in the field of bitcoin and crypto assets, you will evaluate the likelihood of bitcoin’s price at the end of 2023 and provide an explanation for your prediction. The global macroeconomic landscape remains uncertain. The current date is November 3, 2023, and bitcoin is currently trading at $34,728 per unit. There are 58 days left until the end of the year. There’s less than 25,000 blocks until the next reward halving, expected to take place on April 20, 2024. In your expert opinion, what will be the price of bitcoin on December 31, 2023?

I will leave you a link to the answers, as some artificial intelligence applications did not give answers, and some gave answers such as the general range of $15k to $40k, or around $40,000 per unit, or between $30,000 and $50,000, and the answer was rarely in the range of 5k.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Wiwo on November 06, 2023, 01:57:56 PM
The AI will only be near accurate if they have put into consideration also the possible multiple market unseen forces and incidents that may happen in the market that may affect the realization of such $45k Bitcoin price predictions because the AI will only be able to judge all the available elements that make up for the possible price up trends.

But if nothing of such happens along the way,  then it becomes better to forecast easily and to make use of such AI predictions,  but there is a higher chance of us achieving that price before December ends.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: taufik123 on November 06, 2023, 04:18:27 PM
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Before the AI results, most of us including myself have predicted that the highest bitcoin can go this year is 45k. It is based on this popular prediction by most people that AI gave those speculative answers. So, the result is believable but the market may decide to surprise everyone.
AI answers based on past or past data, and the data of many people's predictions about the price of bitcoin that will reach $45k at the end of the year has been managed by AI and used as an answer.
As you said, it is based on popular predictions and the current state of the market.

But what if the trend changes, FUD starts to emerge and crypto fundamentals get out of control, then the predictions will change and AI will read different data again.
AI can't see the future and never will, they are just stuck with existing data.

There will be different answers to each AI used, but let's wait for Elon Msuk's Artificial AI named "Grok" or "xAI" which will be launched soon and can access everything on X (Twitter) and become an AI that is smart enough and can joke "said Elon Musk".


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: khiholangkang on November 06, 2023, 05:27:46 PM
I think with the many types of AI that exist it depends on the AI we use to ask the question, and how often the developer updates the AI, what I doubt is how the AI works in analyzing the price so that it can conclude the price?, some chatbots that I have used before they say that "I can't predict the price", or am I using the wrong prompt?

But I hope that the results from AI will not be used as a basis for making investment decisions, because its accuracy is still highly doubtful in my opinion, but indeed, from the results provided by the AI that you use, it is quite logical that at the end of this year Bitcoin could reach a price of $45 k, and that's a reasonable figure for the end of the year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: eightdots on November 06, 2023, 07:47:33 PM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

The most important things that make a forecast valuable are analysis and a lack of emotion. AI can do exactly what I said. That is why I am curious about the accuracy of these predictions.

Forecasts can't give us the truth because of the changing human condition, but they can give us a close approximation. AI's prediction of the price of Bitcoin may not be exactly right because the developments in the world have not happened yet. I liken it a bit to predicting a match, like team A should have won but team B won. In other words, this price could come true if everything happens as it should, but if it doesn't, the forecast is useless.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: salad daging on November 06, 2023, 07:51:29 PM
It still makes sense with the AI prediction with a range of $45K, but this is AI there is no clear analysis or AI only relying on trends as many people say.

Maybe AI is able to detect what many people say about year-end bitcoin price predictions in the range of $40K to $50K then when someone asks the AI chatbox it will produce the same, but I don't fully believe in AI even though the prediction still makes sense.

Never rely on any speculation about Bitcoin and then ask AI, the results will not be so wild, it's just that this is lacking in my principles.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: macson on November 06, 2023, 08:01:00 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.
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Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .
Seeing the uncontrolled volatility of the Bitcoin price makes me not take it seriously every time a prediction about the price of Bitcoin appears, even when the prediction is issued by someone who is known to be an expert in the field of trading, earlier the price of Bitcoin reaches $35k, maybe tomorrow or 2 In the next day the price of Bitcoin will reach $40k or even $50k, but with more and more predictions appearing, market sentiment will improve and make the chance of Bitcoin touching $45k in the next few weeks no longer impossible (predictions are the fuel for bitcoin price increases)


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: nurilham on November 06, 2023, 08:25:30 PM
AI is not a machine that predicts the future and is also not an observing machine that happens by itself because this tool was also created by humans so its predictions for the price of Bitcoin are not much different from what many people are saying or predicting at the moment.
It is true that AI is a machine which has the ability to predict the future. If we put valid and trusted data, AI machine can predict in a proper way. Sure, its prediction isn't so different with human's prediction. The data put on AI machine is derived from human, right? Since it is a prediction, we shouldn't trust it 100%. AI machine or human only predicts the future, they can't determine the future. So, I think we mustn't be so confused about AI prediction.

But I hope that the results from AI will not be used as a basis for making investment decisions, because its accuracy is still highly doubtful -snip-
AI prediction isn't for the basis for investment choice/decision. If we want to decide anything in investment, it should be based on our own analysis. Sure, the accuracy isn't 100%, for me the accuracy of a prediction commonly is around 50-60% only.

CMIIW



Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: TimeTeller on November 06, 2023, 09:35:05 PM
AI is not a machine that predicts the future and is also not an observing machine that happens by itself because this tool was also created by humans so its predictions for the price of Bitcoin are not much different from what many people are saying or predicting at the moment.
It is true that AI is a machine which has the ability to predict the future. If we put valid and trusted data, AI machine can predict in a proper way. Sure, its prediction isn't so different with human's prediction. The data put on AI machine is derived from human, right? Since it is a prediction, we shouldn't trust it 100%. AI machine or human only predicts the future, they can't determine the future. So, I think we mustn't be so confused about AI prediction.

But I hope that the results from AI will not be used as a basis for making investment decisions, because its accuracy is still highly doubtful -snip-
AI prediction isn't for the basis for investment choice/decision. If we want to decide anything in investment, it should be based on our own analysis. Sure, the accuracy isn't 100%, for me the accuracy of a prediction commonly is around 50-60% only.
CMIIW

The prediction of AI is quite positive, so the decision will be on your hands if you will indeed believe it or not.
The probability of happening may not be high, this is why it is called speculation or prediction.
But there's nothing wrong in using it as a guide on how you will invest on this market, just make sure that you have no one to blame if you follow such prediction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: savetheFORUM on November 07, 2023, 04:21:42 AM
Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .
Because AI models are trained using the data available on the internet, I wouldn't say there is anything special about those predictions since these AI models process data and come up with answers based on the queries asked. As far as I know, these language models don't do any analysis of their own or read charts or anything, but their forecasts are mainly based on what others have written on the matter on different websites and news outlets available on the internet.

So, essentially, no prediction is reliable since we all just make speculations based on the data available, but predictions made by AI models might be less accurate than human-made predictions since we will check all the aspects before we go ahead and make a prediction, they barely do that, IMO.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: adaseb on November 07, 2023, 04:47:03 AM
I think what we will see will be similar to 2015 and 2019, where we get an echo bubble pretty much. Basically a similar bubble but won’t reach ATH. We had this happened in 2019, where we spiked and then pretty much traded nowhere for months until it broke ATH after Covid made all the stock markets rally.

So I think it’s a good prediction. Nothing crazy like those saying it will reach $1M or something crazy like that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: el kaka22 on November 07, 2023, 05:21:33 PM
What would an AI know about bitcoin, it is really just filled with human data and nothing more, it is just data that was feed to it that says this and not some actually intelligent thing that does it. I believe that its not really all that complicated to do it, I can feed any AI software with 45k idea, and then whenever someone asks, it will say 45k. Not saying that's wrong, who knows maybe it could be true, but lets stop expecting AI to do our job for us, it is not going to work.

It's basically just like caring about what an influencer would say, it is not really important because influencer could be wrong, they are a human just like us. AI is basically similar, it may look like it is something special but the reality is that it is not and won't be that important. I believe that we are going to have something special that would be a little different on the long run at and can't be all that simple to handle when you think about how powerless AI could be without humans.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: BitcoinsGreat on November 07, 2023, 07:29:28 PM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

Inasmuch as I know AI is just speculating the price of bitcoin in consideration with the current price now, just like every other human is doing their own speculation. Bitcoin is a volatile asset and has the tendency of fluctuating in it's price in the market so projecting the price to be around $45,000 towards the end of the year may not be as accurate as the AI predicted but however the best option now is still to buy and HODL

We all know that it is best to buy and hold for long term but here is the question is how authentic is this prediction by the AI.

Well, we can only tell if this prediction was right or wrong on the 1st of Jan, 2024 as by then we already will have this data. However, i think that if the ETF is approved by that time, only then we can move to such figures else we may see price consolidating between 30-35K.

It is because of the ETF hype plus the bitcoin halving is nearby, we are not seeing any dump in the market and it is very much possible that we may reach near this $45K target. Yeah, after the halving the price can dump a bit but before that bitcoin is fundamentally very strong at his point of time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: coolcoinz on November 07, 2023, 07:40:55 PM
I think what we will see will be similar to 2015 and 2019, where we get an echo bubble pretty much. Basically a similar bubble but won’t reach ATH. We had this happened in 2019, where we spiked and then pretty much traded nowhere for months until it broke ATH after Covid made all the stock markets rally.

So I think it’s a good prediction. Nothing crazy like those saying it will reach $1M or something crazy like that.

Correction: covid did not make the markets rally. In fact covid itself made the markets fall and the decision to close borders made them crash. What made markets rally was the cancellation of the lockdown and a promise of stimulus. In other words it was money printing that made markets rally. Now they're going to rally again because investors know the FED cannot keep tightening anymore and in fact they were printing behind all of this to help Ukraine, so they're done, they have no cards left to put on the table.

I wouldn't rely on AI's prediction, but I think these bots are right. We could easily get a 20% rally from here.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: _BlackStar on November 07, 2023, 08:06:41 PM
Come on - don't get caught up, AI is not a predictor and is not likely to be recommended as a means of predicting the future prices of highly volatile assets like bitcoin. If AI can really be used to predict - then then we don't need to do TA and FA at all, but fortunately AI is not what is needed to predict prices.

You can utilize AI to gather some information and data - but it's just plain old data collected and presented to you. Don't let AI be the predictor and decider of your investments - do your own research and start wisely.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: mirakal on November 07, 2023, 11:58:39 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

AI or not, some experts have also collectively looked at the market, the price chart of Bitcoin, and made their prediction that Bitcoin was going to hit $40k towards the end of the year. Those AIs are also using information from the past price history of Bitcoin to make their predictions. The fact that those AI predicted $45k doesn't mean it's very accurate; it's still speculation, just like humans have always speculated. Nothing special. The AI is not speaking with a guarantee that Bitcoin must get to $45k before December 31. When we speculate about prices, it sometimes doesn't work like that because the market is not in our control. The same is applicable to AI; they don't control the market.
Whether the prediction is made through AI or not, one thing is certain, all are just speculations and are not guaranteed accurate as long as the market remains to be uncontrollable. That's why bitcoin price hitting the amount of $45k will remain a wild guess until the year ends, unless if bitcoin price follow its direction and eventually reach a new all time high, even exceeding to $45k.

However, its normal to see highly positive predictions when the market is very bullish, and that AI predictions are not an excuse to it as they only predict the future price based on how the current position of bitcoin in the market. Same with crypto influencers, they only predict based on their personal views and understanding on the current position of the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: taufik123 on November 08, 2023, 01:43:19 PM
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You can utilize AI to gather some information and data - but it's just plain old data collected and presented to you. Don't let AI be the predictor and decider of your investments - do your own research and start wisely.
This is a wiser use and can lead to more positive things.
Instead of just being used to ask predictions that in the end will only receive random and uncertain answers.

Regarding the old data used by AI, it depends on the AI platform too.
GPT Chat may only read data up to September 2021, and of course, it will be very limited and 2 years adrift from the current real-time data.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/08/topOI.png (https://www.talkimg.com/image/topOI)

But Bard AI developed by Google can read real-time data from 1980 to the present
and this could be one of the AIs that many new users choose as well.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/08/toOCd.png (https://www.talkimg.com/image/toOCd)


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 08, 2023, 06:15:11 PM
Whether the prediction is made through AI or not, one thing is certain, all are just speculations and are not guaranteed accurate as long as the market remains to be uncontrollable. That's why bitcoin price hitting the amount of $45k will remain a wild guess until the year ends, unless if bitcoin price follow its direction and eventually reach a new all time high, even exceeding to $45k.

Yea, definitely, the market is not controlled by anyone, even with AI, which some people think is more intelligent than humans, but everybody got just be positive in their prediction, like you said. I think the market can happen according to our prediction in terms of coincidence; if it's not so, the market cannot just go as predicted, although we can closely predict the price. For example, someone can predict $45k, but it might end up being far above $48k or even below $40k.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Husires on November 08, 2023, 06:58:31 PM
The last time I listened to artificial intelligence predictions, it told me that the price would return to $50,000 before the end of this year, so the result varies according to the data it is provided with. It would be unwise to trust these tools, but I find that these predictions tend to be accurate.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Kemarit on November 08, 2023, 07:32:00 PM
The last time I listened to artificial intelligence predictions, it told me that the price would return to $50,000 before the end of this year, so the result varies according to the data it is provided with. It would be unwise to trust these tools, but I find that these predictions tend to be accurate.

Yes, I don't think that we should trust this tools, it might help us in other aspects in life, but to say that we are going to rely on it to say what the price will be at least at the end of the year? doesn't make sense at all.

Besides, if I'm not mistaken, the prediction of what will be the price at the end of the year is around $40,000-50,000. It might coincide with what the AI might say, but we have this at the middle of the year already. The data that the AI might be getting is what we have been seeing all alone.

So with or without AI, I will stick with my personal prediction. It could be a hit or miss though, but I didn't rely on some bots or AI tools to make that prediction for me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: kingvirtus09 on November 08, 2023, 10:42:06 PM
I see a lot of people agreeing with AIs prediction and some syas that there has been experts opinion on similar terms that Bitcoin will be finishing this year around $45k mark but I repeat once again not to blindly follow anyone who claims to be experts and AI will source it's result through various analysis and logical reasoning available on web but either of them could go wrong because if we go by AI then all the signals generated by AI bot while trading should be accurate but that isn't the case and if we have to believe in expert's opinion they are the same people who once said Bitcoin will reach $100k back in 2018 which turned out to be a disastrous year, I still remember towards the end 2018 Bitcoin was trading at $3000 the same people used to say Bitcoin is a bubble which has bursted. Please do your own research and analysis along with the news and events related to Bitcoin it will give you best direction about the price.

Of course, when they don't agree, most of them are holdings and when that happens, it will be in favor of all those who have holdings, right? So I don't agree that the accuracy that AI can do is high. There are many experts who said before that the price value of Bitcoin will be like this in this month and date but all of what they said did not come true in their predictions and the accuracy is very far from the reality.

If you think that those who said that before are experts, how much more can an AI that has no emotions be able to analyze the futures that can happen in the price of Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: JoyMarsha on November 08, 2023, 10:55:45 PM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .
There is nothing special about AI given their predictions to be $45k by the end of 2023. From $35k to $45k, there have been so many people's predictions on what price they expect bitcoin to end up being by 2023.

Even though AI tends to predict bitcoin prices that are close to people's predictions for the day, month, or year, depending on what it is asked to answer, it is not something to quickly and seriously rely on for bitcoin predictions, when we all the crypto market is unpredictable


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: BitDane on November 08, 2023, 11:22:05 PM
More likely AI is basing their prediction on the upcoming decision about ETF and is siding that the result would be positive.  It is indeed a conservative prediction given by AI since if the hype continues and the market starting to FOMO, $45k is a little price to think of given that Bitcoin rallied and increased by $10k in price with just a fake news and a ticker.  I think the market will react more positively if the sign of ETF approval gets more obvious.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: kotajikikox on November 09, 2023, 03:03:44 AM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

Inasmuch as I know AI is just speculating the price of bitcoin in consideration with the current price now, just like every other human is doing their own speculation. Bitcoin is a volatile asset and has the tendency of fluctuating in it's price in the market so projecting the price to be around $45,000 towards the end of the year may not be as accurate as the AI predicted but however the best option now is still to buy and HODL
Crypto is pure speculative mate and also has manipulations so yes AI can have predictions but expect no perfect on that as we knew for years that even crypto experts cannot predict what will come in the next run .
it may sounds frustrating but that is reality mate , bitcoin though less manipulative yet there can be a manipulations and will change the course of AI predicting .
you should know being an old member of this market and forum , that sideways also happens and not just strong way .


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Poker Player on November 09, 2023, 03:16:33 AM
More likely AI is basing their prediction on the upcoming decision about ETF and is siding that the result would be positive.  It is indeed a conservative prediction given by AI since if the hype continues and the market starting to FOMO, $45k is a little price to think of given that Bitcoin rallied and increased by $10k in price with just a fake news and a ticker.  I think the market will react more positively if the sign of ETF approval gets more obvious.

Just because there is a large upside after approval does not mean that the upside will be sustained. If a spot Bitcoin ETF is approved tomorrow I would expect a rally that over several days could take the price up to $60K or thereabouts. That's a 60 or 70% upside in a few days, but don't expect a straight line up. As they say in the stock market "buy on the rumor, sell on the news", then there would be steep drops that would fleece retail investors, as is often the case. Although after the initial swing I would expect a slower and more sustained rise.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: boltz on November 09, 2023, 02:00:47 PM
Maybe you fooled the AI to actually make a Bitcoin prediction but we all know AI predictions are based on accumulating the entire internet opinion about cryptos right now and then generating an answer so yea , I cannot trust AI prediction this time. Why ? well , simply because the resistance around 40k$ seems pretty big right now and whales are still in accumulation phase with no intention to actually push towards 40k$. Maybe I'm wrong , maybe I'm not , but my prediction looks way more viable than AI's.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on November 09, 2023, 02:21:07 PM
AI predictions again? We ain't done with humans predicting Bitcoin price and now AI? Well I never believed in predictions rather what the market is displaying and it can also help investors to make a wise decisions too.
Bitcoin price is $37k and nobody thought it would be at this level with the month still fresh, I believe before the end of this month of November we might be seeing Bitcoin price at $45k, while December would be giving us a surprise amount of $50k to $55k or even more because I see green written all over the remaining part of this year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: michellee on November 09, 2023, 02:24:21 PM
We will see whether the predictions from the six AIs will come true or whether they will just remain predictions. AI can indeed predict something like what the price of Bitcoin will be on December 31st. But we shouldn't make it a benchmark that the price of Bitcoin will actually reach that price. Even Bitcoin analysts cannot predict the future price of Bitcoin accurately.

My target is not December this year, but it is still possible after the halving or a very high increase in Bitcoin prices. I am still waiting for Bitcoin price to reach more than its last ATH or $69k. So whatever the price of Bitcoin at the end of December, it will not influence me to sell Bitcoin. I'm still waiting for the latest ATH for Bitcoin.

And now we are approaching $40k which is only the beginning of November. Will the price remain sideways until the end of the month or will there be a rise leading to $40k this November? If there is, it means you need to ask AI again about prices at the end of December.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Wend on November 09, 2023, 02:50:24 PM
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Bitcoin price is $37k and nobody thought it would be at this level with the month still fresh, I believe before the end of this month of November we might be seeing Bitcoin price at $45k, while December would be giving us a surprise amount of $50k to $55k or even more because I see green written all over the remaining part of this year.
According to your prediction, have we really entered the bull season while the halving is still very far away? The $45k goal for this month is really high for me. Bitcoin is up over 30% in the last 30 days and there has been no correction, so I think a correction will be needed in November or December before we conquer higher prices. I don't think we can reach $45k easily. Bitcoin is increasing in price amid the skepticism of many people, but don't be too subjective and unguarded.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sophokles on November 09, 2023, 02:56:49 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

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Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

I guess in this prediction there isn't any correction on the line. If that was that easy then how will whales make money? We all know the possibility of bitcoin making a new ATH is certain post halving period but that path won't be like a straight line like the AI predicted. The historial chart shows us the possibility of another major crash before the halving. Just look at the charts for 2012, 2016 and 2020 they are all the same. I don't want to imagine the same things won't happen this time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Hypnosis00 on November 09, 2023, 02:57:32 PM
This is how the AI has been programmed and there is no difference from humans' expectations of the market. But all of those predictions pretty be wrong just like before. I see AI is good in some areas but getting involved in prediction, I don't think so.

Well, it doesn't matter, and if AI gets it right, will expect people to get crazy about it. Yeah, let us see how it is going and witness the end of 2023 if AI makes it. Well, $45k is quite high when considering the current price and a big chance that it never go beyond $40k


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on November 09, 2023, 03:26:40 PM
According to your prediction, have we really entered the bull season while the halving is still very far away? The $45k goal for this month is really high for me. Bitcoin is up over 30% in the last 30 days and there has been no correction, so I think a correction will be needed in November or December before we conquer higher prices. I don't think we can reach $45k easily. Bitcoin is increasing in price amid the skepticism of many people, but don't be too subjective and unguarded.

I don't talk much about predictions neither do I drop any, but from the movement of Bitcoin price is how I picture things.
Fine, Bitcoin price can't reach $45k that easy like you said, I agree on that but it won't take long for it to happen. When we are seeing the price drastically approaching $38k is just a sign that it would be happening anytime soon but I think $39k would be the resistance.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: jeraldskie11 on November 09, 2023, 06:35:49 PM
According to your prediction, have we really entered the bull season while the halving is still very far away? The $45k goal for this month is really high for me. Bitcoin is up over 30% in the last 30 days and there has been no correction, so I think a correction will be needed in November or December before we conquer higher prices. I don't think we can reach $45k easily. Bitcoin is increasing in price amid the skepticism of many people, but don't be too subjective and unguarded.

I don't talk much about predictions neither do I drop any, but from the movement of Bitcoin price is how I picture things.
Fine, Bitcoin price can't reach $45k that easy like you said, I agree on that but it won't take long for it to happen. When we are seeing the price drastically approaching $38k is just a sign that it would be happening anytime soon but I think $39k would be the resistance.
$39k would be a good resistance but if you look very well $40k is a strong supply zone with fair value gap which is usually the price will go to. If you went down to $4h time frame, we can see that there is a clear break of structure, so it's very possible that the price will hit $40k before pullback occur, so the pullback is not starting yet. I can only say that the pullback will going to start if the price went down below $33k. Currently, buyers are in-control.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Alpha Marine on November 09, 2023, 08:00:44 PM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

To me, it's not a ridiculous prediction.
I predicted 35k to $40k before the end of the year so it's not really surprising that someone else or something else will predict $45k
I don't believe it would have t to $45k this year though even though I'm secretly hoping for it to go above that.
If Bitcoin gets to $45k dollars it means we will most likely see a new ATH next year after the halving.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 09, 2023, 08:32:49 PM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

To me, it's not a ridiculous prediction.
I predicted 35k to $40k before the end of the year so it's not really surprising that someone else or something else will predict $45k
I don't believe it would have t to $45k this year though even though I'm secretly hoping for it to go above that.
If Bitcoin gets to $45k dollars it means we will most likely see a new ATH next year after the halving.
Currently, we are seeing the price had broke that resistance on $35k on which we did even hit up $37k as of this moment on which it is already anticipated that there would really be some corrections
and pullbacks knowing that it is really just increasing too much in a short period of time or even lets just say on the time of 24 hours on which this is something that the best time on trying out
to hedge in between buying low and selling high thing but if you are really that coming for long term then this is something that wont really be bothering you. There are really just those people who are really that
having their own ways or methods on how to deal up with this market.

Speaking about on AI prediction then we arent really that too far with that 45k price point on which a little <>8k price that we do have difference then
if things turns out to be positive here on this market specially on sentiments then there's a probability that we might re ally be that ending up with
this kind of price or level but of course everything would really be still not assurance.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Ultegra134 on November 09, 2023, 09:00:28 PM
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Bitcoin price is $37k and nobody thought it would be at this level with the month still fresh, I believe before the end of this month of November we might be seeing Bitcoin price at $45k, while December would be giving us a surprise amount of $50k to $55k or even more because I see green written all over the remaining part of this year.
According to your prediction, have we really entered the bull season while the halving is still very far away? The $45k goal for this month is really high for me. Bitcoin is up over 30% in the last 30 days and there has been no correction, so I think a correction will be needed in November or December before we conquer higher prices. I don't think we can reach $45k easily. Bitcoin is increasing in price amid the skepticism of many people, but don't be too subjective and unguarded.
$45,000 within November? If you asked me a few months ago, I'd say that it sounded impossible, but judging how quickly the price has increased in the past two months, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. If not this month, it's also quite probably till the end of the year. I'm not into predictions either; I'm not too confident coming up with assumptions or believing anyone I see making any similar claims.

Assuming that we go through a correction phase, I don't believe that the price will go anywhere below $29,000 unless something significant happens that upsets the whole market. To be honest, I'm surprised that the price has risen so significantly before 2024; $40,000 isn't too far from our current position and is a very probable scenario for the upcoming few weeks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: goaldigger on November 09, 2023, 09:24:25 PM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

To me, it's not a ridiculous prediction.
I predicted 35k to $40k before the end of the year so it's not really surprising that someone else or something else will predict $45k
I don't believe it would have t to $45k this year though even though I'm secretly hoping for it to go above that.
If Bitcoin gets to $45k dollars it means we will most likely see a new ATH next year after the halving.
This is the usual trend before the halving and yes there’s a big possibility for that pump after the halving. In preparation to the big updates, the market price is also preparing and ending a year with a good price is a good indication of a bull trend. Reaching $45k this year is still possible, let’s be more bullish and positive for Bitcoin because we will benefit from this and our investments will be more worth it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: kawetsriyanto on November 09, 2023, 09:33:48 PM
AI predictions again? We ain't done with humans predicting Bitcoin price and now AI?
What's the problem with AI prediction? I think it is no problem, people can use any way and any tool to predict Bitcoin price, right?  ;)
Prediction will never end. People will always make predictions as long as Bitcoin price still has volatility. People will always be curious about the future price of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin price is $37k and nobody thought it would be at this level with the month still fresh, I believe before the end of this month of November we might be seeing Bitcoin price at $45k, while December would be giving us a surprise amount of $50k to $55k or even more because I see green written all over the remaining part of this year.
We no longer have big FUDs lately, I'm sure some people already expected that Bitcoin price will increase faster than previously. However, reaching $37k in the early of this month is quite surprising. I think there will be a sideway after Bitcoin can reach $35k. But it is trying to increase again and finally it reaches $37k today. On the next month, I think it is not impossible to see Bitcoin price above $40k. The prediction that Bitcoin will be $45k in the end of this year seem reasonable if we consider the current growth of Bitcoin price. However, I think it is unlikely to jump above $50k.



Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Jating on November 09, 2023, 09:44:27 PM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

To me, it's not a ridiculous prediction.
I predicted 35k to $40k before the end of the year so it's not really surprising that someone else or something else will predict $45k
I don't believe it would have t to $45k this year though even though I'm secretly hoping for it to go above that.
If Bitcoin gets to $45k dollars it means we will most likely see a new ATH next year after the halving.
This is the usual trend before the halving and yes there’s a big possibility for that pump after the halving. In preparation to the big updates, the market price is also preparing and ending a year with a good price is a good indication of a bull trend. Reaching $45k this year is still possible, let’s be more bullish and positive for Bitcoin because we will benefit from this and our investments will be more worth it.

And probably the next question is, what if we indeed reach $45k at the end of the year? Will everyone now goes to AI and ask and them believed what it will tell us? Next year obviously it will be a big run for us as we will have the halving and then the eventual bull run that we all have been waiting. There are predictions that we can hit $100k at a minimum. So maybe another question that we could post to this AI is that what will be the prediction for 2024-2025? Will it match what most of the speculators here are predicting or will it be a different prediction that we have some qualms about it and think that we should ignore AI in cryptocurrency trading or prediction? So I guess there's more questions that answer if we tap AI at it's infancy, just saying.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on November 09, 2023, 11:36:55 PM
AI predictions again? We ain't done with humans predicting Bitcoin price and now AI?
What's the problem with AI prediction? I think it is no problem, people can use any way and any tool to predict Bitcoin price, right?  ;)
Prediction will never end. People will always make predictions as long as Bitcoin price still has volatility. People will always be curious about the future price of Bitcoin.

I don't have any problem with the use of AI to predict that's not an issue or the use of whatever tool, my major concern is some of these predictions sometimes, if not always makes investors or traders to decide wrongly.
Volatility has to be their and predictions too can't stop anytime soon and it seems some if not many investors benefit from various form of predictions either human or AI predictions. But non can ever get it 100% correct, the future of Bitcoin price is not easy to predict.


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We no longer have big FUDs lately, I'm sure some people already expected that Bitcoin price will increase faster than previously. However, reaching $37k in the early of this month is quite surprising. I think there will be a sideway after Bitcoin can reach $35k. But it is trying to increase again and finally it reaches $37k today. On the next month, I think it is not impossible to see Bitcoin price above $40k. The prediction that Bitcoin will be $45k in the end of this year seem reasonable if we consider the current growth of Bitcoin price. However, I think it is unlikely to jump above $50k.

You just have to watch and see how it will make a movement from the current price to the next and before you know it, is catching up to $50k. $50k can't be seen this month but to me it is expected depending on how fast the growth of Bitcoin price shows us in the market but if it doesn't then $40-45k is expected before the end of this year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 10, 2023, 08:54:37 AM
AI predictions again? We ain't done with humans predicting Bitcoin price and now AI? Well I never believed in predictions rather what the market is displaying and it can also help investors to make a wise decisions too.
Bitcoin price is $37k and nobody thought it would be at this level with the month still fresh, I believe before the end of this month of November we might be seeing Bitcoin price at $45k, while December would be giving us a surprise amount of $50k to $55k or even more because I see green written all over the remaining part of this year.
Others tries to believe that AI is more accurate than Human so they are betting in what AI is predicting that our common Human prediction , though it is almost the same as Humans that we might Hit 42-48k$ before December Melts down yet they wanted to listen to what AI says so let them be and we strict to what we are trying to believe and listen .
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

To me, it's not a ridiculous prediction.
I predicted 35k to $40k before the end of the year so it's not really surprising that someone else or something else will predict $45k
I don't believe it would have t to $45k this year though even though I'm secretly hoping for it to go above that.
If Bitcoin gets to $45k dollars it means we will most likely see a new ATH next year after the halving.
This is the usual trend before the halving and yes there’s a big possibility for that pump after the halving. In preparation to the big updates, the market price is also preparing and ending a year with a good price is a good indication of a bull trend. Reaching $45k this year is still possible, let’s be more bullish and positive for Bitcoin because we will benefit from this and our investments will be more worth it.
but we also Knew that before the year ends (mostly After Christmas) the market starts melting again, and yes before January took over the Bitcoin price lowers more than what it recorded in Early December .


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Ndabagi01 on November 10, 2023, 09:09:39 AM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

We can still regard this prediction as one of hundreds we read on a daily basis that have no bearing and are based solely on individual analysis and observations of market trends.  If AI can provide a correct analysis of the expected price of bitcoin, they will be more reliant on it than human analytic predictions. 

According to what this AI's bots have projected, the pricing offered by these bots has a lot of parallels and has the potential to be true before the end of this year. Bitcoin is presently trading above $36K and is expected to remain there due to the pending SEC's approval of the most anticipated spot ETF. Only the final news from this will define bitcoin's next move, whether it will be bullish or bearish for some time before the halving next year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Questat on November 10, 2023, 11:28:22 AM
I think we don't have a problem with AI in making predictions but it was for the one who made it. But it was just a prediction and we know that it only be wrong. I believe that all AI have different answers if we ask them every day and that is probably because of its program inside. Therefore, there is no reason why make it famous, human predictions are still reliable. Perhaps we can ask market experts and surely, they also have different market opinions from AI.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: G_Besar on November 10, 2023, 12:04:53 PM
Others tries to believe that AI is more accurate than Human so they are betting in what AI is predicting that our common Human prediction , though it is almost the same as Humans that we might Hit 42-48k$ before December Melts down yet they wanted to listen to what AI says so let them be and we strict to what we are trying to believe and listen .
Believing in yourself will be the main foundation before we trust other people and other people's creations such as AI for Bitcoin price predictions. I would still rather say $42K before December of this year arrives than something greater than that price, because now Bitcoin is still at $37K even though yesterday it almost touched $38K which is generally very close to $40K.

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but we also Knew that before the year ends (mostly After Christmas) the market starts melting again, and yes before January took over the Bitcoin price lowers more than what it recorded in Early December .
I don't imagine a bigger price drop before Christmas or after Christmas, because what is happening now could be a force for Bitcoin to continue to be at a better price in the range between $37K to $40K. So the decline that is still possible will not be too deep for Bitcoin before everyone welcomes January in the new year or next year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: AakZaki on November 10, 2023, 05:18:44 PM
I think we don't have a problem with AI in making predictions but it was for the one who made it. But it was just a prediction and we know that it only be wrong. I believe that all AI have different answers if we ask them every day and that is probably because of its program inside. Therefore, there is no reason why make it famous, human predictions are still reliable. Perhaps we can ask market experts and surely, they also have different market opinions from AI.
AI can never predict the future, it is only based on reading data. Instead of having to depend on AI, it's better to learn how to maximize our own trading knowledge. With strong technical and fundamental analysis skills, we can make predictions independently without the help of AI. we will be more confident and certainly not only depend on AI. Many beginners use AI, but ultimately they have to know how to trade manually.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: DaNNy001 on November 10, 2023, 07:20:30 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

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Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .
I don't know but so many people tend to think AI is overrated but when it's comes to things like Bitcoin market predictions who can tell since it has to deal with statistical data, I think the AI actually have an upper hand in this type of prediction only that Bitcoin is so volatile that almost all it's prediction and speculation are wrong most of the time by big crypto enthusiast and influencers.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: TravelMug on November 11, 2023, 12:23:12 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

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Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .
I don't know but so many people tend to think AI is overrated but when it's comes to things like Bitcoin market predictions who can tell since it has to deal with statistical data, I think the AI actually have an upper hand in this type of prediction only that Bitcoin is so volatile that almost all it's prediction and speculation are wrong most of the time by big crypto enthusiast and influencers.

I thought you gonna say that AI has the advantage because it can get all the data and crunch it and then make a prediction based on that data, and it will be very easy for them. AI since the market is fairly young, and with all it's algo an speed, it can spew out data that some of us might tend to believed or at least the prediction is a perfect match on what we are actually seeing short term.

So I guess we can say that if we are skeptics then take it with a grain of salt.

And then rely our own our TA or charts and see what will it be this end of the year. Or better think that if the price is going on that direction, then we should take it as a sign to still accumulate as much as we can.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: alastantiger on November 11, 2023, 01:29:06 PM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .
AI makes all sorts of predictions and I can tell you that most of the are very incorrect. How did AI get the data from the live market or from crawling the pages of those crypto influences who have already made these predictions? One thing about AIs of all sorts is that they are not future predictions, they do not have that predictive ability what they do have and do well is being able to present historical data accurately.

I want to see bitcoin's price hit $45k before the year ends, who doesn't that is why I am wishing at the back of my mind that EFTs are approved and more institutions  buy bitcoin and any other thing should happen that will take it up to $45k. Will this happen? No one can actually tell.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Zanab247 on November 11, 2023, 02:09:34 PM
Quote from: Yamane_Keto
I will keep repeating that articles on Bitcoin.com News are often misleading or have inaccurate narratives.
Artificial intelligence predictions depend on the quality of the inputs and on the artificial intelligence algorithm used, but they are no better than technical analysis indicators, which measure price changes in specific periods or according to trading volumes. Therefore, $45k is a good prediction for Bitcoin prices, and only two resistance levels separate us from it, which They will probably be broken within the next 30 days. this prediction is possible.

On Github there are some codes for open source Bitcoin AI prediction services but I doubt it has reasonable accuracy.
Some of the articles prediction  has failed many hodlers some time to lead those hodlers to losses because, they are lazy to carry out their personal research to know how the future of the market will look like when the bull run occur. I know that the price of BTC will reach $40k before the end of december which, I know that my prediction will surely come to pass, but it will be difficult for the price to cross above $40k because the price will hit back $69k next year which is the target of many hodlers in the community.

I will never be addicted to articles prediction, and many hodlers believe articles prediction very well more than this platform, but if you can dedicate a good time with this platform to see some good prediction from the potential hodlers, it will help you to always get it right in your prediction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: eightdots on November 11, 2023, 08:47:55 PM
The last time I listened to artificial intelligence predictions, it told me that the price would return to $50,000 before the end of this year, so the result varies according to the data it is provided with. It would be unwise to trust these tools, but I find that these predictions tend to be accurate.

Yes, I don't think that we should trust this tools, it might help us in other aspects in life, but to say that we are going to rely on it to say what the price will be at least at the end of the year? doesn't make sense at all.

Besides, if I'm not mistaken, the prediction of what will be the price at the end of the year is around $40,000-50,000. It might coincide with what the AI might say, but we have this at the middle of the year already. The data that the AI might be getting is what we have been seeing all alone.

So with or without AI, I will stick with my personal prediction. It could be a hit or miss though, but I didn't rely on some bots or AI tools to make that prediction for me.

Artificial intelligence helps people in many ways. We cannot ignore its benefits. It can do many things faster and in more detail, but when it comes to predictions, I don't think I can fully trust it. I can't say I don't trust it completely, but I can't say I trust it completely either. I might be skeptical about AI's predictions.

For me, as you say, I think it's better to stick to my personal prediction. Our choices determine our future and we invest for a better future and we watch the development of Bitcoin. I have no doubt that Bitcoin will reach high prices. I am not in a hurry about the time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: EluguHcman on November 12, 2023, 12:29:11 PM
The $45K December 31st 2023 prediction of the AI would had been reliable if it was able to give us clinch predictions of other months since the June. Then that of end of the year would had been believable so I am literally saying that it doesn't matter of multiple AI given same predictions about the values of Bitcoin because if the same instructions is given to millions of programs, of they would output the same results.
Bitcoin prediction is just all gambling and acceptable but doesn't have to be reliable.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Wend on November 12, 2023, 11:03:05 PM
According to your prediction, have we really entered the bull season while the halving is still very far away? The $45k goal for this month is really high for me. Bitcoin is up over 30% in the last 30 days and there has been no correction, so I think a correction will be needed in November or December before we conquer higher prices. I don't think we can reach $45k easily. Bitcoin is increasing in price amid the skepticism of many people, but don't be too subjective and unguarded.

I don't talk much about predictions neither do I drop any, but from the movement of Bitcoin price is how I picture things.
Fine, Bitcoin price can't reach $45k that easy like you said, I agree on that but it won't take long for it to happen. When we are seeing the price drastically approaching $38k is just a sign that it would be happening anytime soon but I think $39k would be the resistance.
$39k would be a good resistance but if you look very well $40k is a strong supply zone with fair value gap which is usually the price will go to. If you went down to $4h time frame, we can see that there is a clear break of structure, so it's very possible that the price will hit $40k before pullback occur, so the pullback is not starting yet. I can only say that the pullback will going to start if the price went down below $33k. Currently, buyers are in-control.

I have the same opinion as you, I don't think bitcoin can touch $45k without any correction. I also personally believe that bitcoin will rise in the $39k$-40k$ range and then a correction. We're not completely into bull season yet so there's no way bitcoin is going to hit $45k, then we want it to hit $55k or $69k. One thing that no one seems to notice is that in recent days of price increases, the number of tokens that FTX is holding is also being sold. I wonder if this price increase is for FTX to sell all its altcoins?


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: taufik123 on November 13, 2023, 05:27:36 AM
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One thing that no one seems to notice is that in recent days of price increases, the number of tokens that FTX is holding is also being sold. I wonder if this price increase is for FTX to sell all its altcoins?
Perhaps the people behind FTX also contributed to the rise by trying to sell all their altcoins to pay off their debts.

FTX has filed a petition with the bankruptcy court in Delaware to sell certain trust assets, including those of crypto asset manager Grayscale Investments and custodian service provider Bitwise, valued at around $744 million.

Breakdown of Grayscale and Bitwise Trust assets.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/13/zS74Z.png (https://www.talkimg.com/image/zS74Z)
Source: Kroll

But back again about the increase in Bitcoin this time, of course, because the crypto market trend is good and approaching Halving.
But it is possible that there will be some corrections that occur before Bitcoin reaches a new ATH.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Russlenat on November 13, 2023, 05:33:12 AM
The AI prediction seems quite conservative in my opinion. However, considering the current market movement, I find it reliable and possibly undervalued. Bitcoin could potentially reach as high as $50k this year, especially if the bullish market trend continues. AI predictions are based on real data, so with the overall bullish sentiment among many in the community, there's optimism for further accumulation and observing if the bullish trend will persist.

As for next year, does AI have a prediction on whether Bitcoin will break its all-time high before or after the halving?


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: hyudien on November 13, 2023, 08:55:11 AM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .
Whether AI predictions are accurate or not is still a big question mark, but we also cannot deny that we are currently heading towards Halving so that any possibility of quick improvements has the potential to be more supportive. AI has a spontaneous way of working based on sources on the Internet, but when compared with the predictions of most analyzes then I think what AI says makes sense. $45K at the end of the year is not too surprising, considering that the previous season's increase in the November – December 2020 period showed things that were not much different when in November 2020 Bitcoin started from $17K and at the end of December was able to penetrate the price of $34K. If the pattern is still the same, chances are Bitcoin price touching $45K by the end of December is still feasible.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Oasisman on November 13, 2023, 09:07:32 AM
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Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

I'm not an expert when it comes to AI stuff, but IMO, these AI predictions are a summary of a collective sources of prediction all over the internet, so that's the reason why they all have similar predictions. Nevertheless, I don't think AI could predict bitcoin or any other alts price better than human, because it is the people who controls the market sentiments. If there's something bad suddenly happens in crypto space that could affect the price almost immediately, then that's out of the AI's scope, but humans will have their predictions instantly after receiving the news.
Therefore, I don't rely on AI's prediction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Kelvinid on November 13, 2023, 09:44:51 PM
The AI prediction seems quite conservative in my opinion. However, considering the current market movement, I find it reliable and possibly undervalued. Bitcoin could potentially reach as high as $50k this year, especially if the bullish market trend continues. AI predictions are based on real data, so with the overall bullish sentiment among many in the community, there's optimism for further accumulation and observing if the bullish trend will persist.

Well, AI has relied on the data that is stored but with just 1 month and a half left before this year-end, I don't think it was realistic, that is too far from happening. I don't think the current momentum will continue but moving in the sideways seems to happen. The accumulations may not that strong enough to carry the price high and bring huge demand. Maybe saying reaching $40k is very close to the possibility than of $50k. But still, nobody knows exactly, we just based on the data today and in the past years, but we are still uncertain of the incoming.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on November 13, 2023, 11:18:59 PM
AI predictions again? We ain't done with humans predicting Bitcoin price and now AI? Well I never believed in predictions rather what the market is displaying and it can also help investors to make a wise decisions too.
Bitcoin price is $37k and nobody thought it would be at this level with the month still fresh, I believe before the end of this month of November we might be seeing Bitcoin price at $45k, while December would be giving us a surprise amount of $50k to $55k or even more because I see green written all over the remaining part of this year.
Others tries to believe that AI is more accurate than Human so they are betting in what AI is predicting that our common Human prediction , though it is almost the same as Humans that we might Hit 42-48k$ before December Melts down yet they wanted to listen to what AI says so let them be and we strict to what we are trying to believe and listen .

Is not like I'm forcing anyone, everybody has what he or she believes would grant them profit, if you see a way that would hustle up profit into your wallet would you throw it away? No you won't.
But all I'm trying to say is that getting ready for what the market is giving is better than what AI is giving, if you check properly you find out that the AI isn't 100% correct neither is human prediction and they might give you a figure that before end of November the price of Bitcoin will clock $45k but it won't instead it will go down to a figure we haven't seen in a long while.
Before end of this month with how the price is going, how do you see Bitcoin price in the coming days before we finally kiss November goodbye?


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on November 14, 2023, 04:09:17 AM
Anytime I've asked a chatbot to predict the price of Bitcoin on a date that is many months into the future it always thinks the price will go up. If you ask for a short term prediction it will give you an answer based on recent price trends. There is nothing really special about AI predictions. The answers you get will be based either on random predictions they scraped from the web or on recent trends. The next time there is a crypto winter, AI won't see it coming until we are already in the midst of it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: dansus021 on November 16, 2023, 03:24:24 AM
Given how AI and markets both work in similar ways, I’m curious how accurate AI models will be when it comes to Bitcoin. It would make sense to me if AI were able to predict things better than people when it comes to Bitcoin, considering Bitcoin is in my opinion less manipulatable than traditional investments.

Well, I had the same thought about how AI predicts the price of bitcoin. I mean what data do they take to give the prediction?


because the market is full of surprises there is a lot of consideration from the side of fundamental and analytical. But is 45K achive in December I would say yes but with current situation I would give the market would be around 40K level


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Out of mind on November 16, 2023, 06:33:14 AM
The year 2023 is only a few days away, and then we will see the arrival of the new year. We can see that currently the Bitcoin market has gained a good amount between the months of November, and today we see the Bitcoin market around $38,000. Accordingly, we can say with certainty that by the end of 2023, the Bitcoin market will reach $45,000. We have seen many early predictions which have been very accurate, and accordingly we can trust this prediction with certainty. The Bitcoin market is currently bullish and may see further growth in 2024 towards the end of the year. The reason the Bitcoin market is currently bullish is that we have a halberd ahead of us, which is probably why the Bitcoin market is bullish.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: AprilioMP on November 16, 2023, 09:49:59 AM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

Up and down the Bitcoin price graph, for me I can consider the predictions produced by this AI to be reasonable to accept and can be a consideration for those who think the current big rally is too excessive, as stated by one of the financial companies from America, JP Morgan.
45,000 Dollar (USD) Bitcoin price at the end of 2023 predicted by several AI chatbots is still inaccurate because most do not know how to produce these estimates, but in my opinion the predictions given are in accordance with the increase that has occurred.

Regarding Bitcoin price predictions, I only believe in the real situation because in providing price predictions, I and others can also make them even though they are not for other people to believe in.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Questat on November 16, 2023, 11:32:36 AM
I think we don't have a problem with AI in making predictions but it was for the one who made it. But it was just a prediction and we know that it only be wrong. I believe that all AI have different answers if we ask them every day and that is probably because of its program inside. Therefore, there is no reason why make it famous, human predictions are still reliable. Perhaps we can ask market experts and surely, they also have different market opinions from AI.
AI can never predict the future, it is only based on reading data. Instead of having to depend on AI, it's better to learn how to maximize our own trading knowledge. With strong technical and fundamental analysis skills, we can make predictions independently without the help of AI. we will be more confident and certainly not only depend on AI. Many beginners use AI, but ultimately they have to know how to trade manually.
That is the thing we are supposed to do but we can't stop some people from becoming reliant on AI believing that this could give an exact figure of the market until they figured out that they were wrong. As we can see, there is too much expectation of this AI, many have thought that this technology leads them to better investment results. But this is just for the people who have no knowledge and less market experience while old-timers have been reliant on themselves and we are better from this technology.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 16, 2023, 12:04:35 PM
$45,000 would be nice, really nice. We’ll have to wait and see what happens before the end of the year. I don’t think AI can predict the bitcoin price trajectory with any great accuracy but it’ll be interesting to see if this prediction is accurate.

$45,000 is definitely possible and I’ll be very happy if AI is right with their prediction. We haven’t got long left in the year now so let’s see what happens.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 16, 2023, 12:12:25 PM
AI predictions again? We ain't done with humans predicting Bitcoin price and now AI? Well I never believed in predictions rather what the market is displaying and it can also help investors to make a wise decisions too.
Bitcoin price is $37k and nobody thought it would be at this level with the month still fresh, I believe before the end of this month of November we might be seeing Bitcoin price at $45k, while December would be giving us a surprise amount of $50k to $55k or even more because I see green written all over the remaining part of this year.
Others tries to believe that AI is more accurate than Human so they are betting in what AI is predicting that our common Human prediction , though it is almost the same as Humans that we might Hit 42-48k$ before December Melts down yet they wanted to listen to what AI says so let them be and we strict to what we are trying to believe and listen .

Is not like I'm forcing anyone, everybody has what he or she believes would grant them profit, if you see a way that would hustle up profit into your wallet would you throw it away? No you won't.
But all I'm trying to say is that getting ready for what the market is giving is better than what AI is giving, if you check properly you find out that the AI isn't 100% correct neither is human prediction and they might give you a figure that before end of November the price of Bitcoin will clock $45k but it won't instead it will go down to a figure we haven't seen in a long while.
Before end of this month with how the price is going, how do you see Bitcoin price in the coming days before we finally kiss November goodbye?
You have misquoted me mate because as far as I understand we  are  in the same team here lol  ;) though I am not a hater of AI yet I still do believe that we are as investors and capitalist needs to find what is better for our money and yes everything that can generate me income is already in my priority , either from AI or anywhere else .
And also I am  a Holder but also a short termer , meaning some of my Holdings can be converted into stable coin if the price reached 45k and will re invested in bitcoin once it falls down again , so either November or December or even before Halving , i don't really care because i have already positioned my folio for the bullrun , was just having other option if ever there is a chance to increase my funds.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Silberman on November 17, 2023, 05:52:56 AM
That is the thing we are supposed to do but we can't stop some people from becoming reliant on AI believing that this could give an exact figure of the market until they figured out that they were wrong. As we can see, there is too much expectation of this AI, many have thought that this technology leads them to better investment results. But this is just for the people who have no knowledge and less market experience while old-timers have been reliant on themselves and we are better from this technology.
What is interesting to me is how did they arrive at that conclusion? Chatbots are just that, a bot that imitates a human and that it can keep a conversation that resembles what you will experience with another person, but this is not really software which is specialized on making predictions about the market of cryptocurrencies and the economy in general, so in a way it is just repeating what it has learn over the internet about the predictions other people are making, and it has not created that prediction out of a mathematical model that it could allow it to accurately generate its own predictions, and that makes me think those predictions are useless.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: pinggoki on November 17, 2023, 07:01:13 AM
Given how AI and markets both work in similar ways, I’m curious how accurate AI models will be when it comes to Bitcoin. It would make sense to me if AI were able to predict things better than people when it comes to Bitcoin, considering Bitcoin is in my opinion less manipulatable than traditional investments.
Not that accurate although I can't be so sure of that because I don't have the paid version of ChatGPT so my conjecture is incomplete. Bard AI is up to date but I've tried to use it and it's giving me an incomplete and inaccurate data since it's still in it's experimental stage. There's probably other AI that's more suited to trading out there that I don't know so my opinion on AI is incomplete or inaccurate too. When I used these two AI models, it just listed factors that could influence bitcoin price movement and their prediction on it and the factors that the AI has given is pretty much generalized so you can't really get anything out of it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: bayu7adi on November 17, 2023, 08:08:32 AM
They're just predicting it based on the history data they've collected and trained on the chatbot. Trusting it 100% might not necessarily make you proud in the end because the market truly moves beyond the capacity of AI. However, for those who are hodling, yes... I think they'll gain a bit of confidence as it aligns with their expectations, which is profit. As long as there's no FUD, I believe long term investors will stick with the traders to continue hodl their BTC.

I prefer to see what will really happen by the end of this year, at least 45 days until the end of the year isn't a very long time. I continue my Bitcoin habits even with positive news from AI... it hasn't significantly changed my perspective.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Davian144 on November 17, 2023, 09:10:11 AM
Anytime I've asked a chatbot to predict the price of Bitcoin on a date that is many months into the future it always thinks the price will go up. If you ask for a short term prediction it will give you an answer based on recent price trends. There is nothing really special about AI predictions. The answers you get will be based either on random predictions they scraped from the web or on recent trends. The next time there is a crypto winter, AI won't see it coming until we are already in the midst of it.
It seems really useless to ask a chatbot to predict Bitcoin prices for the next few months using AI methods. And I think AI was not created to see the future or things that have not yet happened because AI was created by humans who generally cannot foresee any future so the possibility of being further off track from what will happen is very large. So it's appropriate to forget about AI in things like this even though maybe AI can be useful for other things, but not for things like price predictions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: rodskee on November 17, 2023, 11:10:54 AM
I wonder how accurate or trustworthy AI in terms of prediction ? if this can break the capacity
of human as how we have seen over the years? or just like regular prediction that the accuracy is just a little as 30-50%?
well that percentage is about how I see most of the prediction given from my years being here and how I supported some of them.
$45,000 would be nice, really nice. We’ll have to wait and see what happens before the end of the year. I don’t think AI can predict the bitcoin price trajectory with any great accuracy but it’ll be interesting to see if this prediction is accurate.

$45,000 is definitely possible and I’ll be very happy if AI is right with their prediction. We haven’t got long left in the year now so let’s see what happens.
This will also add believe in AI once this prediction may come reality ,
 because 45k is a big jump from what we already suffer since last year and almost this year also .


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Silberman on November 21, 2023, 06:32:40 AM
I wonder how accurate or trustworthy AI in terms of prediction ? if this can break the capacity
of human as how we have seen over the years? or just like regular prediction that the accuracy is just a little as 30-50%?
well that percentage is about how I see most of the prediction given from my years being here and how I supported some of them.
Since those predictions are just based on what other people wrote online, in a way we are just watching the overall sentiments of the market being reflected back to us, which in turn reinforce the beliefs of many which then generate more similar predictions that are picked by the AI, so as you can see this becomes a pernicious circle which can only be broken by the reality of the price moving at its own pace, so if I were you I would not put too much weight behind those predictions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: kotajikikox on November 21, 2023, 09:17:24 AM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

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Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .
I don't know but so many people tend to think AI is overrated but when it's comes to things like Bitcoin market predictions who can tell since it has to deal with statistical data, I think the AI actually have an upper hand in this type of prediction only that Bitcoin is so volatile that almost all it's prediction and speculation are wrong most of the time by big crypto enthusiast and influencers.
I also believe in your points , for how many years that we have been listening or trying to listen in wild prediction (because maybe we wanted to hear positive things only)  but now that there is this AI that will help us learn and understand the easy way, many are denying , maybe let them have their belief and against AI while we are trying our luck in Generated knowledge .
hope that this time it will  bring a big positive speculation than what we have in the past years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sunderland on November 21, 2023, 11:03:22 AM
Only needs some fuds and negative news on the internet then the AI will predict less than $40k.
The more good news, the price prediction will goes higher again.

No, do not use AI to predict the price and do any investment based on that.
Just hodl, soon or later we will see the $45k for 1 BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 22, 2023, 05:46:24 AM
Only needs some fuds and negative news on the internet then the AI will predict less than $40k.
The more good news, the price prediction will goes higher again.

No, do not use AI to predict the price and do any investment based on that.
Just hodl, soon or later we will see the $45k for 1 BTC.
The Noice of the market will make the AI react and so you are correct that we should not completely listen to AI generated prediction instead we need only to use those to make our own assessment about how and what will be the price .
this is important to all of us and to our funds (if we are still holding) to maximize our profit.
we must not let computer runs our future because this is reality and not estimation .
and also  i can relate to assume we are nearing 40k and may break it but specification of time maybe this year and not by November .


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: fuguebtc on November 22, 2023, 12:09:00 PM
Only needs some fuds and negative news on the internet then the AI will predict less than $40k.
The more good news, the price prediction will goes higher again.

No, do not use AI to predict the price and do any investment based on that.
Just hodl, soon or later we will see the $45k for 1 BTC.
The Noice of the market will make the AI react and so you are correct that we should not completely listen to AI generated prediction instead we need only to use those to make our own assessment about how and what will be the price .
this is important to all of us and to our funds (if we are still holding) to maximize our profit.
we must not let computer runs our future because this is reality and not estimation .
and also  i can relate to assume we are nearing 40k and may break it but specification of time maybe this year and not by November .

We just need to remember that AI is programmed by us and it depends on the data we provide so it cannot replace humans in making predictions for the future . If AI does not update data promptly, it is nothing more than a pile of scrap metal , so it would be quite naive if we rely on predictions about the future of AI.

As for the future of bitcoin , we should also refrain from making short-term predictions and focus more on the long term and the number of bitcoins we have. Because bitcoin reaches $45k or $100k by the end of this year , but if we don't have bitcoin in our wallet it doesn't mean anything.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: naikturun on November 22, 2023, 03:09:14 PM
I think 45k$ is too far for the end of this year, plus the news of the resignation of the CEO of Binance which has shaken the market a bit, whatever it is, it looks like 40k$ will not be achieved this year and will likely rise again in early 2024.
and after the halving we will see a fairly stable increase until the end of the year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on November 22, 2023, 03:18:11 PM
AI can give us result almost the same as we can also phantom to discover and everything works together as predicted, we are likely to have $45,000 till the end of this year and we are also likely not to have upto that because the market can change at anytime to our greatest surprises, but just as many people have predicted, we are going to have more of bullish trend than the bear till the end of these years except for unforseen circumstances whereby the market drastically changes and we see otherwise, but am also bullish all through this year end.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Kemarit on November 22, 2023, 08:45:40 PM
I think 45k$ is too far for the end of this year, plus the news of the resignation of the CEO of Binance which has shaken the market a bit, whatever it is, it looks like 40k$ will not be achieved this year and will likely rise again in early 2024.
and after the halving we will see a fairly stable increase until the end of the year.

Yeah, there is a news about CZ and Binance, but if you look at the market, it wasn't that affected negatively. On the other hand, we continue to have a jump, the price is more than $37,000 and the increased is 1.x% in the last 24 hours. So given that how this news was released and yet the market didn't take a dent? I think the market will remain bullish up to the end of the year.

So maybe the AI got it right, or the market is really going at that price at the end of the year because majority of us, or at least myself is seeing prices like $40,000-$50,000 next month. Let's see how it goes, bullish sentiment is still predominant in this market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Lanatsa on November 22, 2023, 09:10:51 PM
Only needs some fuds and negative news on the internet then the AI will predict less than $40k.
The more good news, the price prediction will goes higher again.

No, do not use AI to predict the price and do any investment based on that.
Just hodl, soon or later we will see the $45k for 1 BTC.
The Noice of the market will make the AI react and so you are correct that we should not completely listen to AI generated prediction instead we need only to use those to make our own assessment about how and what will be the price .
this is important to all of us and to our funds (if we are still holding) to maximize our profit.
we must not let computer runs our future because this is reality and not estimation .
and also  i can relate to assume we are nearing 40k and may break it but specification of time maybe this year and not by November .

We just need to remember that AI is programmed by us and it depends on the data we provide so it cannot replace humans in making predictions for the future . If AI does not update data promptly, it is nothing more than a pile of scrap metal , so it would be quite naive if we rely on predictions about the future of AI.

As for the future of bitcoin , we should also refrain from making short-term predictions and focus more on the long term and the number of bitcoins we have. Because bitcoin reaches $45k or $100k by the end of this year , but if we don't have bitcoin in our wallet it doesn't mean anything.
People should really be realizing this on which we are really that someone who did create AI on which means that it would really be just simply making out those kind of predictions basing up into those information that had been stored up on the library on which making out some analysis into it and will really be basing up with those given numbers but we do know that this market is never been predictable in the first place.
Things that happened in the past doesnt mean that it wouldn't happen in the future, everything that takes from here would really be always remain as a speculation on which people would really be never ever
be able to get on the right spot.

Any predictions made out by AI or human, then always nitpick with those kind of price assumptions. No one knows about the future and no one really knows on what would happen.
It would really be always varying or depending on the demand and recognition on which numbers cant really be known on when it would be stopping or reaching.
Therefore, it would really be that wise that you should really know on when to get in and accumulate.



Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Silberman on November 24, 2023, 06:13:28 AM
I think 45k$ is too far for the end of this year, plus the news of the resignation of the CEO of Binance which has shaken the market a bit, whatever it is, it looks like 40k$ will not be achieved this year and will likely rise again in early 2024.
and after the halving we will see a fairly stable increase until the end of the year.

Yeah, there is a news about CZ and Binance, but if you look at the market, it wasn't that affected negatively. On the other hand, we continue to have a jump, the price is more than $37,000 and the increased is 1.x% in the last 24 hours. So given that how this news was released and yet the market didn't take a dent? I think the market will remain bullish up to the end of the year.

So maybe the AI got it right, or the market is really going at that price at the end of the year because majority of us, or at least myself is seeing prices like $40,000-$50,000 next month. Let's see how it goes, bullish sentiment is still predominant in this market.
It is likely that since the halving is so close already despite the bad news people are not willing to sell their coins, as they think that if they do then they will have to buy their coins again but at a higher price, so they are preferring to hold their coins no matter what as a way to not let go of the benefits they have obtained already due to the increase in the price we have seen in the last months, still even with all of that 45k seems like it is too far away, especially if we consider that there is just one month left before this year ends.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 24, 2023, 08:08:52 AM
I think 45k$ is too far for the end of this year, plus the news of the resignation of the CEO of Binance which has shaken the market a bit, whatever it is, it looks like 40k$ will not be achieved this year and will likely rise again in early 2024.
and after the halving we will see a fairly stable increase until the end of the year.

Yeah, there is a news about CZ and Binance, but if you look at the market, it wasn't that affected negatively. On the other hand, we continue to have a jump, the price is more than $37,000 and the increased is 1.x% in the last 24 hours. So given that how this news was released and yet the market didn't take a dent? I think the market will remain bullish up to the end of the year.

So maybe the AI got it right, or the market is really going at that price at the end of the year because majority of us, or at least myself is seeing prices like $40,000-$50,000 next month. Let's see how it goes, bullish sentiment is still predominant in this market.
It is likely that since the halving is so close already despite the bad news people are not willing to sell their coins, as they think that if they do then they will have to buy their coins again but at a higher price, so they are preferring to hold their coins no matter what as a way to not let go of the benefits they have obtained already due to the increase in the price we have seen in the last months, still even with all of that 45k seems like it is too far away, especially if we consider that there is just one month left before this year ends.

Yes, and in the worst case that we will see, it's obvious to be more than the last all time high, so maybe $70k is the price is for those who have been holding for so long just to make some profits. And then we have the block halving next year, so it's better to accumulate as much.

Regardless of what the AI thinks or predict, as a smart investors, again accumulation is the key and keep on holding. Lots of positive news around from today till the next bull run, so most likely AI will also predict more than $100k in 2024-2025?


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: DanWalker on November 24, 2023, 09:28:17 AM
I think 45k$ is too far for the end of this year, plus the news of the resignation of the CEO of Binance which has shaken the market a bit, whatever it is, it looks like 40k$ will not be achieved this year and will likely rise again in early 2024.
and after the halving we will see a fairly stable increase until the end of the year.

Yeah, there is a news about CZ and Binance, but if you look at the market, it wasn't that affected negatively. On the other hand, we continue to have a jump, the price is more than $37,000 and the increased is 1.x% in the last 24 hours. So given that how this news was released and yet the market didn't take a dent? I think the market will remain bullish up to the end of the year.

So maybe the AI got it right, or the market is really going at that price at the end of the year because majority of us, or at least myself is seeing prices like $40,000-$50,000 next month. Let's see how it goes, bullish sentiment is still predominant in this market.
It is likely that since the halving is so close already despite the bad news people are not willing to sell their coins, as they think that if they do then they will have to buy their coins again but at a higher price, so they are preferring to hold their coins no matter what as a way to not let go of the benefits they have obtained already due to the increase in the price we have seen in the last months, still even with all of that 45k seems like it is too far away, especially if we consider that there is just one month left before this year ends.
CZ has been sued, resigned, or is awaiting sentencing for money laundering. This has a negative impact on Binance and the BNB ecosystem, but it is not all bad news for the market. If something happened to binance it would be a real problem for the market but binance is still doing very well. So I wouldn't consider this as negative news for the markets so there is no reason for people to panic and sell their bitcoins.

Regarding the prediction of 45k$ by the end of the year, I also agree with everyone that it seems very difficult for us to achieve that goal but the goal of 40k$ I think will be more feasible.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: asrinur on November 24, 2023, 10:30:16 AM
If you look at the recent performance of the bitcoin market, it seems that the AI prediction which estimates that the price of Bitcoin will reach $45k by the end of 2023 can be achieved because the price of bitcoin is currently trading in the range of $36k-$37k and the market is in a state of recovery after several months The last one was in a bearish phase.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: traderethereum on November 24, 2023, 02:01:19 PM
It is likely that since the halving is so close already despite the bad news people are not willing to sell their coins, as they think that if they do then they will have to buy their coins again but at a higher price, so they are preferring to hold their coins no matter what as a way to not let go of the benefits they have obtained already due to the increase in the price we have seen in the last months, still even with all of that 45k seems like it is too far away, especially if we consider that there is just one month left before this year ends.
If that's what they think, it means they have learned a lot from their experience not to panic when they see or read the news. It would be good if they could restrain themselves from selling their coins with the thought that if they sold them now, they might not be able to buy them for as much as they sold them for.
Reaching $45k may still be difficult, especially since the price has not yet broken through to higher prices. But sooner or later, the price of bitcoin will definitely reach that price, and even if it can't be reached by the end of the year, that's okay.
The important thing is that we still have time to accumulate more to prepare for a real bull run.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: strunberg on November 24, 2023, 03:02:45 PM
It seems really useless to ask a chatbot to predict Bitcoin prices for the next few months using AI methods. And I think AI was not created to see the future or things that have not yet happened because AI was created by humans who generally cannot foresee any future so the possibility of being further off track from what will happen is very large. So it's appropriate to forget about AI in things like this even though maybe AI can be useful for other things, but not for things like price predictions.

I also thought that it was something useless. What AI says is a logical calculation which of course AI cannot process market psychology and results based on analysis of previous history. What AI does in predictions is futile because AI was created for something that is a logical calculation and analysis based on mathematical data. I don't know how to explain it properly but I think you understand this. AI was not created to see the future.

I think there is nothing special about the $45k prediction by AI. Humans also agree that now the bear market is over and Bitcoin is about to enter a bullish season.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: danadc on November 24, 2023, 03:05:50 PM
You should not be guided only by what an AI says, because the AI does not have the ability to make predictions, it is something that should not be fully trusted, some AIs may have a very developed way of prediction, but it is not what You must have something to do, I can do many things to buy bitcoin now, because I do know that it will go up, but I don't know, I was thinking that it could reach $50k, and it is a figure that can be made at any time, not at the end This year, in this same month of November it can be done, and bitcoin is like that and the genai price can be given, I don't trust the AI, but I still like its prediction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on November 24, 2023, 03:33:01 PM
You should not be guided only by what an AI says, because the AI does not have the ability to make predictions, it is something that should not be fully trusted, some AIs may have a very developed way of prediction, but it is not what You must have something to do, I can do many things to buy bitcoin now, because I do know that it will go up, but I don't know, I was thinking that it could reach $50k, and it is a figure that can be made at any time, not at the end This year, in this same month of November it can be done, and bitcoin is like that and the genai price can be given, I don't trust the AI, but I still like its prediction.

You're right, it's good to make use of our personal research about bitcoin, we can make use of what we have learnt and every necessary and required skills to be used in speculating to arrive at our own personal conclusion about what should be expected concerning bitcoin market price, to me AI is not accurately a perfect means to derive a conclusion, though it may give a clue but that doesn't always guarantee an accuracy in them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: target on November 24, 2023, 03:59:24 PM

Its still November and we are heading to $40k, we'll find out next month if these six AIs can go wrong and if they are, then maybe they need another six more to predict. They can't just give up predicting BTC, it's a good tool to encourage lurking investors.

People wouldn't really rely on AIs when it comes to predicting BTC price but if they make predictions close to the price, it may convince those who use AI.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: southerngentuk on November 24, 2023, 04:49:00 PM
Asking a chatbot to predict the price of Bitcoin in the next few months using AI methods seems futile. AI is a powerful tool, but it is not a miracle machine. It can be used to analyze data and detect trends, but it cannot see the future.

AI is created by humans, and humans cannot see the future. We can predict trends based on historical data, but we cannot know for sure what will happen in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: salad daging on November 24, 2023, 04:58:54 PM
You should not be guided only by what an AI says, because the AI does not have the ability to make predictions, it is something that should not be fully trusted, some AIs may have a very developed way of prediction, but it is not what You must have something to do, I can do many things to buy bitcoin now, because I do know that it will go up, but I don't know, I was thinking that it could reach $50k, and it is a figure that can be made at any time, not at the end This year, in this same month of November it can be done, and bitcoin is like that and the genai price can be given, I don't trust the AI, but I still like its prediction.

You're right, it's good to make use of our personal research about bitcoin, we can make use of what we have learnt and every necessary and required skills to be used in speculating to arrive at our own personal conclusion about what should be expected concerning bitcoin market price, to me AI is not accurately a perfect means to derive a conclusion, though it may give a clue but that doesn't always guarantee an accuracy in them.
People are free to do it, they want to use AI or not it depends on the individual because by analyzing yourself who already has the skills does not guarantee accuracy, there will still be satisfaction for us to have done the analysis but in reality the price touches the target and that's what most people do.

I always see a lot of predictions that are generated, the results do show the same whether the price prediction is generated by AI or expert analysis but in the end bitcoin can go up for the next year, and they always say to keep buying before the price continues to rise.

That's all have different principles, sometimes even AI can still be relied on.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 24, 2023, 05:47:14 PM
If you look at the recent performance of the bitcoin market, it seems that the AI prediction which estimates that the price of Bitcoin will reach $45k by the end of 2023 can be achieved because the price of bitcoin is currently trading in the range of $36k-$37k and the market is in a state of recovery after several months The last one was in a bearish phase.

It will definitely touched the price of 45k$ but I think it will be happen in 2024 but during this year bitcoin will cross the value of 40k$ and will reach to almost 43k$. Only one and half month is remaining in this year so may be it happens or may be it reach to 45k$ in next year because we cannot make a right estimation as we are even unfamiliar with next hour.

If price touched the value of 45k$ in this year then it is possible that in next year at the time of halving bitcoin will be at the worth of more than 60k$ or 70k$. Price can change anytime due to volatile market but hopefully fruitful outcomes will appear very soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: el kaka22 on November 24, 2023, 06:54:33 PM
^Evidently, it is getting closer to be real more and more everyday, we are at 38k right now give or take, and reaching another 7k higher is not really all that crazy, we could definitely see that happening eventually and should be considering that this AI could be right about the situation.

This doesn't mean that we should ask AI all the time, but I didn't believe that AI would be right even just this time, and yet it is getting closer to it. Of course we still have some time for the year to end, we have about 35 days or something, which means that it could be wrong too, maybe we will never reach 45k, maybe we won't even break over 40k, who knows? Or the other way around, maybe we will end at 50k, who knows? We still have some time to see.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Ricardo11 on November 26, 2023, 04:07:53 PM
There is still a little more than a month left until the end of 2023. Since the Bitcoin market is volatile, it is impossible to predict exactly how much its value will rise. It may be that we don't even get to 40k this year, and it's also possible that we can break 50 to 55k. So it's hard to say exactly how long it will last. Now let's see what happens.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: erep on November 26, 2023, 10:34:53 PM
^Evidently, it is getting closer to be real more and more everyday, we are at 38k right now give or take, and reaching another 7k higher is not really all that crazy, we could definitely see that happening eventually and should be considering that this AI could be right about the situation.

This doesn't mean that we should ask AI all the time, but I didn't believe that AI would be right even just this time, and yet it is getting closer to it. Of course we still have some time for the year to end, we have about 35 days or something, which means that it could be wrong too, maybe we will never reach 45k, maybe we won't even break over 40k, who knows? Or the other way around, maybe we will end at 50k, who knows? We still have some time to see.
I'm actually surprised that the AI's predictions are more realistic than a lot of human speculation on this board, that many speculation threads say the end of year price will close at $60k, or that the price will reach a new ATH early next year, I compare that with the AI's speculation that It can be believed that in relation to the current market price, the current market price remains in the $36k area and it is possible that the market price will be able to reach at least $40k by the end of this year, but all unexpected aspects can happen in a fluctuating market and hope that December is not a bad month for crypto market prices.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: n0ne on November 26, 2023, 11:27:22 PM
There is still a little more than a month left until the end of 2023. Since the Bitcoin market is volatile, it is impossible to predict exactly how much its value will rise. It may be that we don't even get to 40k this year, and it's also possible that we can break 50 to 55k. So it's hard to say exactly how long it will last. Now let's see what happens.
The market is volatile by development. It can be seen all the time. Now the volatility range was seen higher than other time. This is good time for the traders to make better earning. The price of bitcoin have been moving around $37500 for a long time. If something positive happens around the market a good bounce could happen. Even with its regular growth it'll reach above $40k as we were able to see higher growth taking place at the year end. Lets see if 50k happens in 2024 or earlier.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: STT on November 27, 2023, 07:45:07 AM
AI doesnt have its own model, unless its formulated or been updated with that kind of reasoning.  They do have the ability to search and discover other peoples extrapolations, hopes, guesses and some data.  That means the search AI is reflecting the market rather then bringing in new data of its own or being separate in any way its more of a way to collate data then find a new independent view of BTC trajectory.   People already mistrust Technical analysis, I dont why they'd prefer AI chat bots except it makes those pages of data more digestible and is read out for people to hear which is nice but its nothing solid for its guess.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Tony116 on November 27, 2023, 09:37:14 AM
^Evidently, it is getting closer to be real more and more everyday, we are at 38k right now give or take, and reaching another 7k higher is not really all that crazy, we could definitely see that happening eventually and should be considering that this AI could be right about the situation.

This doesn't mean that we should ask AI all the time, but I didn't believe that AI would be right even just this time, and yet it is getting closer to it. Of course we still have some time for the year to end, we have about 35 days or something, which means that it could be wrong too, maybe we will never reach 45k, maybe we won't even break over 40k, who knows? Or the other way around, maybe we will end at 50k, who knows? We still have some time to see.
I'm actually surprised that the AI's predictions are more realistic than a lot of human speculation on this board, that many speculation threads say the end of year price will close at $60k, or that the price will reach a new ATH early next year, I compare that with the AI's speculation that It can be believed that in relation to the current market price, the current market price remains in the $36k area and it is possible that the market price will be able to reach at least $40k by the end of this year, but all unexpected aspects can happen in a fluctuating market and hope that December is not a bad month for crypto market prices.

AI predictions are based on various aggregated data. Meanwhile, the predictions of people on this forum are mostly their wishes, but they do not rely on technical indicators to predict, so there will be differences. There are even many people who are too optimistic and delusional, they always make unrealistic predictions like bitcoin will reach 1 million USD for the next bull season.

But a prediction is just a prediction with no guarantees because the market is fundamentally unpredictable. Predictions are just for fun discussion, we should not put too much faith or be too dependent on those predictions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: bestcoins1 on November 27, 2023, 10:46:24 AM
There is still a little more than a month left until the end of 2023. Since the Bitcoin market is volatile, it is impossible to predict exactly how much its value will rise. It may be that we don't even get to 40k this year, and it's also possible that we can break 50 to 55k. So it's hard to say exactly how long it will last. Now let's see what happens.
What is happening now in the market is a Bitcoin price correction even though it is still in the $37K range, so reaching a price of around $40K is still quite possible for Bitcoin this year. Moreover, previously Bitcoin also touched the price of $38K even though it only took a little time, but this could also be a sign that moving to $40K is not too difficult for Bitcoin as long as the price correction is not too big and too deep in Bitcoin. But if we rely on predictions from AI for the price of Bitcoin this year, if what is predicted is completely off and wrong, who do we think we will blame in this case?


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Franctoshi on November 27, 2023, 11:15:55 AM
Despite having Bitcoin seem ranging between $36k and $38k after its last move to 38k ,and facing a bit resistance or difficulty crossing that price level and go further,  I tend to agree or I kind of agree with the AI predictions because I have an analysis which I did that its target is also towards $45k range and above. We still have a month left before the end of the end year ,So Bitcoin still have more time and room to move to the upside and meet up the price target and even go way higher if we eventually gets a break out from the zone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: davis196 on November 27, 2023, 11:59:10 AM
I'm beginning to see a weird "self-fulfilling prophecy" here. ;D
1.A bunch of AI chat bots predicts higher BTC price by the end of the year.
2.Many crypto traders see this news and they think "hmm, let's buy more BTC, because the price will increase, several AI chatbots can't be wrong".
3.They start buying more BTC and the BTC price goes to 45K USD, surprisingly fulfilling the prediction/prophecy of those AI bots. ;D
The whole process can go in the opposite direction.
What if the AI bots predict a 10K BTC price by the end of the year.
The traders will see this prediction and start panic selling, which causes the price to drop down to 10K, fulfilling the AI prediction. ;D
WOW, this looks like a way to manipulate the Bitcoin market(and all altcoin markets as well). ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on November 27, 2023, 12:25:45 PM
Despite having Bitcoin seem ranging between $36k and $38k after its last move to 38k ,and facing a bit resistance or difficulty crossing that price level and go further,  I tend to agree or I kind of agree with the AI predictions because I have an analysis which I did that its target is also towards $45k range and above. We still have a month left before the end of the end year ,So Bitcoin still have more time and room to move to the upside and meet up the price target and even go way higher if we eventually gets a break out from the zone.

We might be seeing Bitcoin price at $45k before the first week of December that's if the current price which is $37k gets to $40k this month. But we can't say what this month is going to drop as we head into the last week of November, to me October is better than November, the expectation for this month was high. This month is not that promising and what we expected from the market price is just different from what we're seeing.
By this time in October it was all green before getting to this month, now we ain't sure if the price is going up. We're seeing Bitcoin price at $37k and it seems to be the resistance at the moment and $38k has never stayed for a week, is like $37k is going to be the last price we're going to see November giving us.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: TravelMug on November 27, 2023, 01:20:39 PM
Despite having Bitcoin seem ranging between $36k and $38k after its last move to 38k ,and facing a bit resistance or difficulty crossing that price level and go further,  I tend to agree or I kind of agree with the AI predictions because I have an analysis which I did that its target is also towards $45k range and above. We still have a month left before the end of the end year ,So Bitcoin still have more time and room to move to the upside and meet up the price target and even go way higher if we eventually gets a break out from the zone.

We might be seeing Bitcoin price at $45k before the first week of December that's if the current price which is $37k gets to $40k this month. But we can't say what this month is going to drop as we head into the last week of November, to me October is better than November, the expectation for this month was high. This month is not that promising and what we expected from the market price is just different from what we're seeing.
By this time in October it was all green before getting to this month, now we ain't sure if the price is going up. We're seeing Bitcoin price at $37k and it seems to be the resistance at the moment and $38k has never stayed for a week, is like $37k is going to be the last price we're going to see November giving us.

With that, $40k is the psychological barrier, it's a round numbers and usually it's tough to break it. But once we got to that price, there will be no looking back as we might go to $45k or even higher. But we need something to FOMO the market again, about the supposedly Bitcoin Spot ETF approval, it seems that the effect of this news has died down a bit that's why the highest we got from it is around $39k only. So let's see if we will hear another positive news that is real that will really put the market into another buying spree from investors, whether institutions or retail investors. It's the start of the last week of this month and it seems that we might be around this price at the end of the week. But, we still have hopes for December and see if this AI prediction is going to happen or not.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Franctoshi on November 27, 2023, 01:56:58 PM
Despite having Bitcoin seem ranging between $36k and $38k after its last move to 38k ,and facing a bit resistance or difficulty crossing that price level and go further,  I tend to agree or I kind of agree with the AI predictions because I have an analysis which I did that its target is also towards $45k range and above. We still have a month left before the end of the end year ,So Bitcoin still have more time and room to move to the upside and meet up the price target and even go way higher if we eventually gets a break out from the zone.
By this time in October it was all green before getting to this month, now we ain't sure if the price is going up. We're seeing Bitcoin price at $37k and it seems to be the resistance at the moment and $38k has never stayed for a week, is like $37k is going to be the last price we're going to see November giving us.
It doesn't matter whether the price starts to move early or not, it actually a matter of if its mission “Bitcoin" is to reach that $45k price target before the end of the year, Just a week is enough to attain such a price target if we are to go up further before the end of the year, take you for instance, there was a month such scenario happened either August or September can't exactly recall, Few days towards the end of that month, we saw a sudden surge in the price of Bitcoin.




Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on November 27, 2023, 05:06:28 PM
Despite having Bitcoin seem ranging between $36k and $38k after its last move to 38k ,and facing a bit resistance or difficulty crossing that price level and go further,  I tend to agree or I kind of agree with the AI predictions because I have an analysis which I did that its target is also towards $45k range and above. We still have a month left before the end of the end year ,So Bitcoin still have more time and room to move to the upside and meet up the price target and even go way higher if we eventually gets a break out from the zone.
By this time in October it was all green before getting to this month, now we ain't sure if the price is going up. We're seeing Bitcoin price at $37k and it seems to be the resistance at the moment and $38k has never stayed for a week, is like $37k is going to be the last price we're going to see November giving us.
It doesn't matter whether the price starts to move early or not, it actually a matter of if its mission “Bitcoin" is to reach that $45k price target before the end of the year, Just a week is enough to attain such a price target if we are to go up further before the end of the year, take you for instance, there was a month such scenario happened either August or September can't exactly recall, Few days towards the end of that month, we saw a sudden surge in the price of Bitcoin.




You're on point but with how the market price is going it may give us something very fast to reach that $45k but to me I don't see it coming in a hurry. You're talking about a week, it may just be a day to hit that range, to me I'd like it to even surpass $45k so that the next target would be $50k before the end of this year, if that happens then this year would put a huge smile on the faces of investors and traders. That's my wish honestly, for things to fall in line as we expect, Bitcoin price need to be at a faster pace (positively).


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: ShowOff on November 27, 2023, 07:38:08 PM
There is still a little more than a month left until the end of 2023. Since the Bitcoin market is volatile, it is impossible to predict exactly how much its value will rise. It may be that we don't even get to 40k this year, and it's also possible that we can break 50 to 55k. So it's hard to say exactly how long it will last. Now let's see what happens.
What is happening now in the market is a Bitcoin price correction even though it is still in the $37K range, so reaching a price of around $40K is still quite possible for Bitcoin this year. Moreover, previously Bitcoin also touched the price of $38K even though it only took a little time, but this could also be a sign that moving to $40K is not too difficult for Bitcoin as long as the price correction is not too big and too deep in Bitcoin. But if we rely on predictions from AI for the price of Bitcoin this year, if what is predicted is completely off and wrong, who do we think we will blame in this case?

I'm not sure what caused bitcoin to not be able to maintain its price above $38k, but perhaps a correction was expected rather than breaking $40k. A correction to $37k isn't bad, but it's worth expecting a bigger rally towards the end of the year.

Currently $40k to $45k is not much off its real time price, but it may take time and more push to break that resistance. The AI's prediction of $45k this year seems correct, but I can't rely on that prediction because in reality people were already predicting the same amount before anyone even asked the AI. Some holders may have exited when the price of bitcoin hit $38k a few days ago and I believe they just need a little pause before reinvesting in DIP.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: erep on November 27, 2023, 09:01:29 PM
Currently $40k to $45k is not much off its real time price, but it may take time and more push to break that resistance. The AI's prediction of $45k this year seems correct, but I can't rely on that prediction because in reality people were already predicting the same amount before anyone even asked the AI. Some holders may have exited when the price of bitcoin hit $38k a few days ago and I believe they just need a little pause before reinvesting in DIP.
There are many excessive speculations that have been predicted by humans but AI predicts more realistically regarding current market prices, we are not talking about similar predictions but I applaud AI's predictions which can be used as price speculation of $45k which is likely to be reached by the end of the year.

The market is currently experiencing resistance but is still holding at $35k even though many shareholders have taken profits from previous price increases, but the bullish era has just begun after the market correction and we predict the halving to be the main factor pushing the market price up to its highest price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on November 28, 2023, 01:24:16 AM
But, we still have hopes for December and see if this AI prediction is going to happen or not.

December is now the special month people talk about, that will bring the highest price that many expected but we shouldn't have our hopes so high because something different might happen just like this month of November, it was suppose to be a month that will bring a positive price without being at a stagnant price, always at $36-37k.
November is some how not that lively compared to October, I just wish to see something different before the end of November and AI isn't going to get the prediction of December right .


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 28, 2023, 02:49:02 AM
You should not be guided only by what an AI says, because the AI does not have the ability to make predictions, it is something that should not be fully trusted, some AIs may have a very developed way of prediction, but it is not what You must have something to do, I can do many things to buy bitcoin now, because I do know that it will go up, but I don't know, I was thinking that it could reach $50k, and it is a figure that can be made at any time, not at the end This year, in this same month of November it can be done, and bitcoin is like that and the genai price can be given, I don't trust the AI, but I still like its prediction.
Not sure why Nowadays seems like many are relying in AI ? yeah it has a accuracy in some part but crypto? this is an all prediction and relies in Supply and Demand so how come that AI accuracy are applicable here?
I think it is still our research and own prediction that we must follow so if ever we are wrong , there are no blaming but us .
But, we still have hopes for December and see if this AI prediction is going to happen or not.

December is now the special month people talk about, that will bring the highest price that many expected but we shouldn't have our hopes so high because something different might happen just like this month of November, it was suppose to be a month that will bring a positive price without being at a stagnant price, always at $36-37k.
November is some how not that lively compared to October, I just wish to see something different before the end of November and AI isn't going to get the prediction of December right .
35-38k$ is the highest positioning Bitcoin ever had this Month of November meaning we are looking for at least 40-45k$ this December as what many predicted.
for me this is more than enough to expect because of the idea about 2024 is the halving season and yes many things are changing in this month and year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: YUriy1991 on November 28, 2023, 03:07:23 AM
Everyone wants profits but is afraid of losing money. AI does this by generating all existing data and summarizing it very well. But I don't necessarily fully believe the price predictions that AI makes, but the price range will rotate at the end of this year between 40K and 43K. Of course, no one knows even if they use tools such as AI. Many things will change the game in a short time. Just watch for smaller swings within larger swings and If the market continues to rise despite bad news, assume a bullish mood.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: mich on November 28, 2023, 05:39:56 AM
Well I think we must only look into this like some other way of making a prediction. It is not possible to predict the price of Bitcoin even if we use AI. I do like this 'bullish' prediction but there is other charts and ways we can make Bitcoin predictions also.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: bitgolden on November 28, 2023, 06:25:59 AM
By this time in October it was all green before getting to this month, now we ain't sure if the price is going up. We're seeing Bitcoin price at $37k and it seems to be the resistance at the moment and $38k has never stayed for a week, is like $37k is going to be the last price we're going to see November giving us.
It doesn't matter whether the price starts to move early or not, it actually a matter of if its mission “Bitcoin" is to reach that $45k price target before the end of the year, Just a week is enough to attain such a price target if we are to go up further before the end of the year, take you for instance, there was a month such scenario happened either August or September can't exactly recall, Few days towards the end of that month, we saw a sudden surge in the price of Bitcoin.
I would say even a few days would be enough, but that doesn't guarantee anything. You can make art with AI because it could check out other art created beforehand and then make something similar, it knows what it must create based on what it was taught and that's understandable.

However, it can't predict bitcoin because that would be reading the future, it's like something that nobody can do, and that is why it can't, what could it do or what does it use based on the answer we already got from it? It can be using what the people showed it, nothing more, so you can make a prediction like this too. In the end, it's not real, and it can't be predicting, that's the future and it can't see to the future, nothing in the world can.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: irhact on November 28, 2023, 07:17:29 AM
Everyone wants profits but is afraid of losing money. AI does this by generating all existing data and summarizing it very well. But I don't necessarily fully believe the price predictions that AI makes, but the price range will rotate at the end of this year between 40K and 43K. Of course, no one knows even if they use tools such as AI. Many things will change the game in a short time. Just watch for smaller swings within larger swings and If the market continues to rise despite bad news, assume a bullish mood.

The price might still stay at the current range until the end of the year, Bitcoin price is not easily predictable. There's no certainty that the price will be at $45,000 as predicted by the AI. AI don't know the future and we have to stop believing every prediction as we're giving them more credit then they deserved. During the last world cup, many AI predicted wrongly but we're acting like that never happened. All AI do is to put data together but other factors can influence the price of Bitcoin.

The price of Bitcoin at the end of 2023 doesn't really matters as that's just one month away and we shouldn't be investing for very short time. Our investment should be for the far future so we can make more profits from holding. What we should be looking forward to is the price of Bitcoin at the end of 2025 when we're expected to reach a new all time high of Bitcoin. If we're looking towards the future, the price of Bitcoin at the end of the year won't matter.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: huu78 on November 28, 2023, 07:53:13 AM
I think predictions are something that AI doesn't do very well, because predictions are inaccurate but AI calculations are always accurate.
that's why I don't believe in it.
45k$ is too high for bitcoin right now.
We can be in the 35k range by the end of the year, which is very good.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: mattujusuruga on November 28, 2023, 04:56:24 PM
In my opinion, AI predictions about the price of Bitcoin at the end of this year cannot be guaranteed to be completely accurate because AI is the work of robots, even predictions made by humans are not completely accurate, let alone AI predictions. But at least this kind of prediction can be a reference for us in further analyzing how far the Bitcoin market will move before we make a decision.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: crwth on November 28, 2023, 05:00:07 PM
Was this taught to the AI engines? Are there reasons for their prediction? I think it's a fun game to see how they have been able to predict that and I hope that they would be able to. As long as it's increasing in price or something, that would be great. Not that I believe that it will happen but why not, right?

Can you replicate this in any way? I would like to see those AI engines.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Odohu on November 28, 2023, 06:18:47 PM
But, we still have hopes for December and see if this AI prediction is going to happen or not.

December is now the special month people talk about, that will bring the highest price that many expected but we shouldn't have our hopes so high because something different might happen just like this month of November, it was suppose to be a month that will bring a positive price without being at a stagnant price, always at $36-37k.
November is some how not that lively compared to October, I just wish to see something different before the end of November and AI isn't going to get the prediction of December right .
November is not yet over and if you check the market today, Bitcoin have gained 2% without 24 hours. This is an indication that Bitcoin can even break the $38k resistance and approach $40k. This is a possibility even though nothing is certain at this point. Nevertheless,  the recently bullish momentum may extend to December because there is no much negative news hindering Bitcoin from soaring.

One thing you must understand that the big players understand the game of investing so well. I'm sure they are already studying the market and taking investment decisions accordingly. This may be the reason the price recovers very quickly after every dump. When the news of CZ and Binace came out, price depleted sharply and recovered within few days. This is a confirmation that what wants the price to go up is stronger than what wants it down.

I have always maintained that this year may be the best time to buy Bitcoin because we are still below the ATH. From early next year, the news of ETF and halving will be all over the place and as you know, this is the fuel that the market uses to grow.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: OgNasty on November 28, 2023, 07:24:30 PM
I think predictions are something that AI doesn't do very well, because predictions are inaccurate but AI calculations are always accurate.
that's why I don't believe in it.
45k$ is too high for bitcoin right now.
We can be in the 35k range by the end of the year, which is very good.

Obviously AI can’t predict the future and I think the way it collects information would lead it to be spectacularly wrong in cases when markets change. However, it isn’t that hard to predict the price of something two months out. It says something that the prediction was so bullish I guess, but it’s just trumpeting what everyone else is saying.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: flyingcarpet on November 28, 2023, 08:02:58 PM
Everyone wants profits but is afraid of losing money. AI does this by generating all existing data and summarizing it very well. But I don't necessarily fully believe the price predictions that AI makes, but the price range will rotate at the end of this year between 40K and 43K. Of course, no one knows even if they use tools such as AI. Many things will change the game in a short time. Just watch for smaller swings within larger swings and If the market continues to rise despite bad news, assume a bullish mood.

Anything can happen to the Bitcoin price at any time, but there is a possibility that predictions made close to the current price 1 month before the end of the year will come true. However, everyone has their own expectations and acts or expects accordingly. There is a possibility that the prediction made by artificial intelligence will be correct, but for me it is not much different from the prediction made by someone else.

Nobody knows why certain things happen in this market. Some predictions will come true, but most of us already know that bull season is approaching. Some are waiting for the price to drop to make a new purchase, while others are waiting for a higher price from here on. I do not think there are many people who will shape their investments according to the predictions of artificial intelligence.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Mame89 on November 28, 2023, 09:15:59 PM
In my opinion, AI predictions about the price of Bitcoin at the end of this year cannot be guaranteed to be completely accurate because AI is the work of robots, even predictions made by humans are not completely accurate, let alone AI predictions. But at least this kind of prediction can be a reference for us in further analyzing how far the Bitcoin market will move before we make a decision.
In my opinion, BTC predictions from AI are not always correct in reading the future and human predictions will not be correct either. AI only provides predictions based on history or trending speculation from the many predictions made by humans so that AI summarizes everything and gives us the answer.

But what is clear is that none of these predictions are accurate, they are just speculation, just like when I speculated that the price of bitcoin would be $50k by the end of the year on the grounds that we would be getting closer to bitcoin. halving it so bullishness will occur.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: danadc on November 29, 2023, 09:21:55 PM
I do not believe that AIs will be successful with that prediction , and I was reading and no AI is capable of making predictions according to the programs they have , they are not Capable of doing so, for that Reason I think that it can be done as long as a short-term prediction, but what you say, although it is very possible,  I don't see it , because we are waiting for the prices that come to be high, not low, there are many Inconsistencies with the AIs, I don't trust the AIs, they are not at all Trust me, many are programming anything and it is not like that.

An AI can make mistakes in an impressive way , I would not see this as beneficial because when we see the schemes, the patterns are only to raise the price.

If a Trader says that with a good analysis that explains it, I think it's something laughable, as long as they continue with that just to do things with AI , I won't believe them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Natalim on November 30, 2023, 12:58:18 PM
I do not believe that AIs will be successful with that prediction , and I was reading and no AI is capable of making predictions according to the programs they have , they are not Capable of doing so, for that Reason I think that it can be done as long as a short-term prediction, but what you say, although it is very possible,  I don't see it , because we are waiting for the prices that come to be high, not low, there are many Inconsistencies with the AIs, I don't trust the AIs, they are not at all Trust me, many are programming anything and it is not like that.


Perhaps, nobody believes it because we know that the market is unpredictable. And besides, these AI are just reliant on the data stored on their system. What have got is just speculation, not really the thing that is going to happen. That is why there is no reason to believe such a claim that AI is more accurate because it is indeed not.

In fact, seeing the current price of Bitcoin, the price is still stuck below $40k. If the situation changes, maybe the price will reach $40k but it is likely impossible to reach $45k.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: booktiger on November 30, 2023, 03:02:48 PM
I do not believe that AIs will be successful with that prediction , and I was reading and no AI is capable of making predictions according to the programs they have , they are not Capable of doing so, for that Reason I think that it can be done as long as a short-term prediction, but what you say, although it is very possible,  I don't see it , because we are waiting for the prices that come to be high, not low, there are many Inconsistencies with the AIs, I don't trust the AIs, they are not at all Trust me, many are programming anything and it is not like that.


Perhaps, nobody believes it because we know that the market is unpredictable. And besides, these AI are just reliant on the data stored on their system. What have got is just speculation, not really the thing that is going to happen. That is why there is no reason to believe such a claim that AI is more accurate because it is indeed not.

In fact, seeing the current price of Bitcoin, the price is still stuck below $40k. If the situation changes, maybe the price will reach $40k but it is likely impossible to reach $45k.

Artificial intelligence and traders who use technical analysis all use the same historical Bitcoin chart data. Traders have previously used various mathematical programs to predict the market, there is a whole direction known as algorithmic trading.
It can be assumed that artificial intelligence does analysis better than humans. We don’t know how it is fully organized and how it is trained.
The price of Bitcoin at $45,000 is a very realistic target and many financial analysts have talked about it before.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: rohang on November 30, 2023, 03:22:53 PM
This would certainly be a sweet christmas for btc HOLDers,

Being an AI prediction its probably more calculated and free of bias,
you would want these AI predictions to be correct, but if this happens way too often what could that lead into :O


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Wapfika on November 30, 2023, 03:32:45 PM
This would certainly be a sweet christmas for btc HOLDers,

Being an AI prediction its probably more calculated and free of bias,
you would want these AI predictions to be correct, but if this happens way too often what could that lead into :O

AI usually just gather data from the web and probably most its source are those prediction posted on news site, blogs and social media. It reflects the general sentiment of the people but we all know that price of Bitcoin always show a very unpredictable behavior despite everyone is expecting a pump.

Bitcoin price is still having difficulty to break the 38K barrier which is very significant so that we can extend the pump above 40K level. I’m expecting for a very good Christmas but this kind of slow down near a significant resistance makes me worried a little bit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Baofeng on November 30, 2023, 10:40:31 PM
This would certainly be a sweet christmas for btc HOLDers,

Being an AI prediction its probably more calculated and free of bias,
you would want these AI predictions to be correct, but if this happens way too often what could that lead into :O

Yeah, but where does the AI gets his data to predict though?

And so with that, everyone can make their own prediction based on bitcoin's previous historical log. It might not be as accurate when you crunch the data. But if you have been in the market already, I'm sure we should know how to make those predictions, those wild educated guesses.  ;D

Who wouldn't want to see $45k at the end of 2023? but we will have to wait, we all have our own predictions and hopefully it can match that of the AI as well or even higher.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: romero121 on November 30, 2023, 11:54:23 PM
This would certainly be a sweet christmas for btc HOLDers,

Being an AI prediction its probably more calculated and free of bias,
you would want these AI predictions to be correct, but if this happens way too often what could that lead into :O

Yeah, but where does the AI gets his data to predict though?

And so with that, everyone can make their own prediction based on bitcoin's previous historical log. It might not be as accurate when you crunch the data. But if you have been in the market already, I'm sure we should know how to make those predictions, those wild educated guesses.  ;D

Who wouldn't want to see $45k at the end of 2023? but we will have to wait, we all have our own predictions and hopefully it can match that of the AI as well or even higher.
Based on the past market data the AI could've made the prediction. This is how the majority of the people does the prediction. Everything is on some facts and data, nothing is going to be precise. For now the December month is to begin and we have a month to end the year. Maybe we can experience $50k by the start of 2024 as the market seems good. Good resistance could drive the market reach $40k+ at the earliest.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 30, 2023, 11:58:03 PM
This would certainly be a sweet christmas for btc HOLDers,

Being an AI prediction its probably more calculated and free of bias,
you would want these AI predictions to be correct, but if this happens way too often what could that lead into :O

Yeah, but where does the AI gets his data to predict though?

And so with that, everyone can make their own prediction based on bitcoin's previous historical log. It might not be as accurate when you crunch the data. But if you have been in the market already, I'm sure we should know how to make those predictions, those wild educated guesses.  ;D

Who wouldn't want to see $45k at the end of 2023? but we will have to wait, we all have our own predictions and hopefully it can match that of the AI as well or even higher.
Based on the past market data the AI could've made the prediction. This is how the majority of the people does the prediction. Everything is on some facts and data, nothing is going to be precise. For now the December month is to begin and we have a month to end the year. Maybe we can experience $50k by the start of 2024 as the market seems good. Good resistance could drive the market reach $40k+ at the earliest.

if you have the inclination of believing such prediction, this is really good to invest or buy more before it reaches to that 45k level. that is, if you think you have the time to wait if in case it doesn't go thru with this specified time. because you might be subjecting your savings and you have your urgent financial needs before your target price becomes a reality.
AI prediction also is based from past history, other net sources of course, but we can't totally guarantee about the actual price or the date that it will actually happen. we are at the same time speculating on this matter.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: justdimin on December 01, 2023, 11:06:32 AM
if you have the inclination of believing such prediction, this is really good to invest or buy more before it reaches to that 45k level. that is, if you think you have the time to wait if in case it doesn't go thru with this specified time. because you might be subjecting your savings and you have your urgent financial needs before your target price becomes a reality.
AI prediction also is based from past history, other net sources of course, but we can't totally guarantee about the actual price or the date that it will actually happen. we are at the same time speculating on this matter.
Even if the AI didn't predict this or you don't see such prediction, we are still going to buy BTC and stack more of it because we already know its potential. Anyone can see it on the charts. You can choose to buy even the price passes above $45k or you can wait for it to drop again in exchange for some price discounts.

It is still possible. Selling higher because we bought at highs still requires some great patience since the growth of BTC may now slow down once it already reached a good price point. Waiting is hard. You also said the other reason on why waiting/hodling is difficult, but it can be prevented if we are wise enough to not put most of our money in BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 01, 2023, 02:09:43 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications)

So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one.
My advice is for everyone to disregard what AIs say about any trading markets, they are jokers in this regard. They were never coded to know what the market would do but they can use past events and their rich education to "Suggest," not even "Predict," in my own experience. This is why there is always a disclaimer when some AIs like ChatGPT issue any trading/investment or financial advice. They are for suggesting purposes that the AI will not even encourage anyone to use the advice.

I've, in addition, read so many prices called by AIs on what the cryptocurrency market would do, and I think is time for people to start knowing how the financial market works. The market is not something that is 100% predictive based on what has happened or the foreknowledge about anything, but rather dynamic and will ever use its dynamism to fool anyone who thinks they can accurately predict it.

Also don't forget, there are many factors that could affect the behaviour of Bitcoin to be specific, and AI can't see the future of what would happen on the fundamental side of the market whether good or bad as part of such factors. So how could anyone believe what AIs say of Bitcoin? If possible it can know such, by now, we should have known what the SEC would decide upon on Bitcoin's ETF in January.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Ben Barubal on December 03, 2023, 01:55:30 AM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

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Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

  If you rely on AI for your prediction, we know that there is no 100% accurate prediction when it comes to crypto trading or even forex trading. Although, even among other experts who still have emotions, others also said that Bitcoin's price value can be played between 40k and 50k.

  Now, even if their assessment is like that, it will still remain speculation until it happens. Now,  with AI, I don't know if it will also remain speculation since it is an AI bot. If humans can't predict 100%, how about AI?



Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Alpha Marine on December 04, 2023, 08:20:58 AM
Also don't forget, there are many factors that could affect the behaviour of Bitcoin to be specific, and AI can't see the future of what would happen on the fundamental side of the market whether good or bad as part of such factors. So how could anyone believe what AIs say of Bitcoin? If possible it can know such, by now, we should have known what the SEC would decide upon on Bitcoin's ETF in January.

The thing about AI predictions is that they can't tell what humans can't tell. Every data they used to make that prediction was given to them by humans. Sometimes it is not updated data. I saw an AI predicts the winner of a sports competition but the AI didn't have the current data of that competition so it made predictions based on the previous year.

When an AI Is given the right data, it would make predictions based on the data it was given, and if all other factors remain constant, the prediction will be close (all other factors hardly remain constant) the difference is they're programmed to understand those data faster than humans.
In the case of this prediction on Bitcoin price this year, it wasn't far from the truth.

I made speculation earlier on this board even before the AI prediction that before the end of the year, Bitcoin will get to $35k - $40k and I was correct. So we can see that the AI didn't go too far from the reality. Bitcoin is at $41k right now and that's not very far from $45k. We know that predictions are never 100% certain.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: $crypto$ on December 04, 2023, 03:18:02 PM
Yeah, but where does the AI gets his data to predict though?

And so with that, everyone can make their own prediction based on bitcoin's previous historical log. It might not be as accurate when you crunch the data. But if you have been in the market already, I'm sure we should know how to make those predictions, those wild educated guesses.  ;D

Who wouldn't want to see $45k at the end of 2023? but we will have to wait, we all have our own predictions and hopefully it can match that of the AI as well or even higher.
From the current trend, it is common for AI predictions to always conclude on the latest data.

Yes, I'm sure some of them believe in their own predictions with previous historical records, they have ways to analyze prices including some tools are now adequate, this is not about the accuracy of the results because sure no one is right and precise, but at least with their own predictions it is much better than relying on AI.

Can't wait for the price to $45K, but I think now it will be stuck first and a little correction then sideways in weeks before going to $45k.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: flyingcarpet on December 04, 2023, 04:29:45 PM
Yeah, but where does the AI gets his data to predict though?

And so with that, everyone can make their own prediction based on bitcoin's previous historical log. It might not be as accurate when you crunch the data. But if you have been in the market already, I'm sure we should know how to make those predictions, those wild educated guesses.  ;D

Who wouldn't want to see $45k at the end of 2023? but we will have to wait, we all have our own predictions and hopefully it can match that of the AI as well or even higher.
From the current trend, it is common for AI predictions to always conclude on the latest data.

Yes, I'm sure some of them believe in their own predictions with previous historical records, they have ways to analyze prices including some tools are now adequate, this is not about the accuracy of the results because sure no one is right and precise, but at least with their own predictions it is much better than relying on AI.

Can't wait for the price to $45K, but I think now it will be stuck first and a little correction then sideways in weeks before going to $45k.

I'm not sure that the correction will be small, I think there is still a bearish expectation in the market and a lot of people are waiting for it. Of course we want the price to go up, but if there is a correction, we can't say no to the buying opportunity that Bitcoin will give us. So I think it's more important how far the price can go down in a correction than if the price stays stable.

I think AI predictions are no different than any human prediction. We all know that the bull season is coming and predictions will be constant.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Bitcoin_people on December 04, 2023, 05:23:38 PM
Already I can see a huge change in the market and the value of Bitcoin has increased steadily. Bitcoin price touched $42000 today and it is the highest of this year, and I think Bitcoin price is definitely likely to touch $45,000 by December 31st. At the beginning of 2023, the value of Bitcoin was not very high, but towards the end, the value of Bitcoin increased greatly. And if this AI Bot's future prediction is correct then I think Bitcoin price is definitely going to rise even more. With only a few days left until the end of 2023, the price of Bitcoin may quickly exceed $45,000. And if the prediction of this AI bot is correct then I think it is definitely possible and the value of Bitcoin will increase tremendously.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: erep on December 04, 2023, 07:11:16 PM
I think AI predictions are no different than any human prediction. We all know that the bull season is coming and predictions will be constant.
You can review several speculation threads on this board, there are some market speculations that are not realistic when it comes to market prices that the market could reach the ATH price this month, although the market has a positive impact now from last month but the possibility of recovering to reach the previous ATH cannot be confirmed , the market is bound to experience some correction in this situation due to the significant upside impact, so I am optimistic on the AI prediction that the market will soon reach $45k by the end of the year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: bestcoins1 on December 04, 2023, 07:49:13 PM
You can review several speculation threads on this board, there are some market speculations that are not realistic when it comes to market prices that the market could reach the ATH price this month, although the market has a positive impact now from last month but the possibility of recovering to reach the previous ATH cannot be confirmed , the market is bound to experience some correction in this situation due to the significant upside impact, so I am optimistic on the AI prediction that the market will soon reach $45k by the end of the year.
The possibility of reaching $45K is already quite positive, but if that really happens to the price of Bitcoin in the market later, that doesn't mean everyone has to make predictions via AI because this could just be a coincidence. Besides, everyone knows that market conditions are now much more positive than last month, so the highest price this year has also occurred this month, namely $42K. And I also think that the increase in Bitcoin prices will continue even though it has to be marked by several corrections.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: KennyR on December 04, 2023, 11:04:21 PM
You can review several speculation threads on this board, there are some market speculations that are not realistic when it comes to market prices that the market could reach the ATH price this month, although the market has a positive impact now from last month but the possibility of recovering to reach the previous ATH cannot be confirmed , the market is bound to experience some correction in this situation due to the significant upside impact, so I am optimistic on the AI prediction that the market will soon reach $45k by the end of the year.
The possibility of reaching $45K is already quite positive, but if that really happens to the price of Bitcoin in the market later, that doesn't mean everyone has to make predictions via AI because this could just be a coincidence. Besides, everyone knows that market conditions are now much more positive than last month, so the highest price this year has also occurred this month, namely $42K. And I also think that the increase in Bitcoin prices will continue even though it has to be marked by several corrections.
For now the price had touched the peak price of the year. If this trend continues we can expect $45k within few days as $42375 is touched and now trading around $42000. Myself have the same thought, what had been come out of the AI is just the coincidence and those aren't going to be precise. Price corrections could happen in large scale close to the halving. Now few altcoins were following the bitcoin trend and when most of the altcoins begins to move along with bitcoin we can confirm the continued bullish move of entire crypto market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: philipma1957 on December 04, 2023, 11:33:06 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

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Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .


So they read my Nov 1 thread and riffed on it. Not very impressed.

My thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472517.0

my predictions


"If we do the 2015 pattern from sept to dec we will rock 2 more months.

35000 x 1.21 = 42350 by dec 1 we got to 42431 dec 4

42350 x 1.1375 = 48173 by jan 1.

opinons and guesses"


so far nailed it pretty well


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: serjent05 on December 04, 2023, 11:57:03 PM
opinons and guesses"


so far nailed it pretty well


yeah I am very much impressed with how you made the comparison and made a prediction of the Bitcoin movement using the 2015 data.  So does this mean we are repeating market price trend history?  '


For now the price had touched the peak price of the year. If this trend continues we can expect $45k within few days as $42375 is touched and now trading around $42000. Myself have the same thought, what had been come out of the AI is just the coincidence and those aren't going to be precise. Price corrections could happen in large scale close to the halving. Now few altcoins were following the bitcoin trend and when most of the altcoins begins to move along with bitcoin we can confirm the continued bullish move of entire crypto market.

If the trends continue it means we have not touched the peak price of the year yet as per the date of your posting.  I also agree that we may break $45k before the month's end if the positive sentiment keeps on growing but I am still vigilant for the possible market bull trap that may happen before the year's end.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Out of mind on December 05, 2023, 05:57:03 AM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

Quote
Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

  If you rely on AI for your prediction, we know that there is no 100% accurate prediction when it comes to crypto trading or even forex trading. Although, even among other experts who still have emotions, others also said that Bitcoin's price value can be played between 40k and 50k.

  Now, even if their assessment is like that, it will still remain speculation until it happens. Now,  with AI, I don't know if it will also remain speculation since it is an AI bot. If humans can't predict 100%, how about AI?


Yes, the predictions made by AI in cryptocurrency are mostly wrong. Some predictions are accurate again, but I think they can be as accurate as one percent out of 100%. Moreover, people who use AI to make such predictions and plan to invest and trade accordingly are sure to face huge losses in the future. AI Predictions Earlier, we saw many investors predicting that the price of Bitcoin is likely to increase significantly by the end of December 2023. According to that we can say that before the new year, since half of us are waiting for Bitcoin, the price of Bitcoin must be between $40k and $40k dollars. If people believe all these AI speculation things, I think they are completely wrong because very few predictions are made by these bots. Humans can't predict 100% of the time, most of them are 75% accurate, but bots are even less accurate.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: slashz9 on December 05, 2023, 01:03:00 PM
If you look at the current price of 41/42k then the profit you can get is 10%, maybe not that high but if you use a lot of capital then the profit will be more pronounced.
but it does not rule out the possibility that bitcoin will close even higher.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: danadc on December 05, 2023, 08:33:12 PM
I am not a big believer in AI for predictions, many try to sell trading robots that are for AI that can predict movements, and they are not good at all, the majority are robots that make you lose, now that an AI comes out saying that, no I'm going to believe them, I think there are more possibilities of believing in anyone who has studied technical analysis and has experience trading because the learning they have is for that person and is applicable to any situation they encounter in the market, now things They can be seen so easily with an AI that says everything, it may happen, but not because this AI has predicted, coincidences exist and I prefer to think that if it happens it is a mere coincidence.

Those who do believe that things can turn out for the better in bitcoin because they have done their own analysis, well for me they have more value, the AI as far as I know can make a lot of mistakes and that is something that is a fact.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 05, 2023, 08:47:11 PM
Six AI chatbots forecast bitcoin to reach $45k by December 31 2023. From the  article (https://news.bitcoin.com/15k-to-45k-6-ai-chatbots-weigh-in-with-conservative-bitcoin-forecasts-for-years-end/?utm_source=OneSignalPush&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=PushNotifications) the test was first carried out June this year which it was predicted that the price will get to $45k by the end of the 2023 year, and on the 3rd of this month of November 2023 another query test was carried out using 6 different AI chatbots to inquire what the price of bitcoin could be by end of the year and they all gave predictions that points to $45k at most. And the most intriguing thing about this which caught my attention is that it was same price prediction range it gave sometime June this year when the first test was conducted.

Quote
Four months ago, Bitcoin.com News engaged with six generative AI chatbots, prompting them to forecast bitcoin’s value at the close of 2023. The collective consensus of these AI systems anticipated BTC to land between $40,000 and $50,000 by the conclusion of the year. With the year now winding down to its final two months, we repeated the experiment. The updated predictions from the AI chatbots have arrived slightly more conservative than the June estimates.
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

  If you rely on AI for your prediction, we know that there is no 100% accurate prediction when it comes to crypto trading or even forex trading. Although, even among other experts who still have emotions, others also said that Bitcoin's price value can be played between 40k and 50k.

  Now, even if their assessment is like that, it will still remain speculation until it happens. Now,  with AI, I don't know if it will also remain speculation since it is an AI bot. If humans can't predict 100%, how about AI?


Yes, the predictions made by AI in cryptocurrency are mostly wrong. Some predictions are accurate again, but I think they can be as accurate as one percent out of 100%. Moreover, people who use AI to make such predictions and plan to invest and trade accordingly are sure to face huge losses in the future. AI Predictions Earlier, we saw many investors predicting that the price of Bitcoin is likely to increase significantly by the end of December 2023. According to that we can say that before the new year, since half of us are waiting for Bitcoin, the price of Bitcoin must be between $40k and $40k dollars. If people believe all these AI speculation things, I think they are completely wrong because very few predictions are made by these bots. Humans can't predict 100% of the time, most of them are 75% accurate, but bots are even less accurate.
People would say it again that they were accurate but only into the time that the price do able to hit up. On the time that this thread had been created on which the price is really that still low. We didnt assume out
that we would be able to see 45k soon but here we are now on which playing about 43k and might be able to hit up 45k end of the year on which no one on this market did really expect for us to climb that high.
Prices are already that almost touching up on that all time high and might be able to reach it out on next year but of course im expecting for some profit taking scenario or simply into those market corrections.
Actually it isnt really that bad to profit take into those people or investors who had bought on 30k+ price.

In speaking about AI predictions then it isnt something that you could rely on, but it isnt bad to take up some possible  suggestions that you could really be able to apply into your
own decision too. So it would really be something situational but dont make yourself that relying into those.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Dave1 on December 05, 2023, 08:49:41 PM
If you look at the current price of 41/42k then the profit you can get is 10%, maybe not that high but if you use a lot of capital then the profit will be more pronounced.
but it does not rule out the possibility that bitcoin will close even higher.

Current price reaches $44k in the last couple of hours, although it has decline to $ 43,700. However, we don't know if $45k will be the ending price for bitcoin as per AI. With how the FOMO is right now, we could be reaching around $50k.

But then again, we shouldn't get be relying on our AI tools to make predictions. Will be glad to see it happening, but I guess there are more speculators at the beginning of the year that pointed out that we could be around $40k-$50k at end of the year. So it's not a magic number that anyone hasn't seen or predicted, just saying.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 08, 2023, 09:02:17 PM
If you look at the current price of 41/42k then the profit you can get is 10%, maybe not that high but if you use a lot of capital then the profit will be more pronounced.
but it does not rule out the possibility that bitcoin will close even higher.

Current price reaches $44k in the last couple of hours, although it has decline to $ 43,700. However, we don't know if $45k will be the ending price for bitcoin as per AI. With how the FOMO is right now, we could be reaching around $50k.

But then again, we shouldn't get be relying on our AI tools to make predictions. Will be glad to see it happening, but I guess there are more speculators at the beginning of the year that pointed out that we could be around $40k-$50k at end of the year. So it's not a magic number that anyone hasn't seen or predicted, just saying.

The prediction is almost there, so I guess I will say that AI might have gotten this right just a couple of +/- at the end of the year. The best thing is that if this AI prediction could be real as it gets then maybe we can used it often and take advantage of it to make money in the long term.

But I do agree that it's not a magic number, everyone has this figure in mind at the start of the year. I mean in January alone we have a huge uptick already and so it laid down the foundation as to what could happen this year and that's eventually did, a very positive start and end of the year price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: danadc on December 08, 2023, 09:17:00 PM
If you look at the current price of 41/42k then the profit you can get is 10%, maybe not that high but if you use a lot of capital then the profit will be more pronounced.
but it does not rule out the possibility that bitcoin will close even higher.

Current price reaches $44k in the last couple of hours, although it has decline to $ 43,700. However, we don't know if $45k will be the ending price for bitcoin as per AI. With how the FOMO is right now, we could be reaching around $50k.

But then again, we shouldn't get be relying on our AI tools to make predictions. Will be glad to see it happening, but I guess there are more speculators at the beginning of the year that pointed out that we could be around $40k-$50k at end of the year. So it's not a magic number that anyone hasn't seen or predicted, just saying.

The prediction is almost there, so I guess I will say that AI might have gotten this right just a couple of +/- at the end of the year. The best thing is that if this AI prediction could be real as it gets then maybe we can used it often and take advantage of it to make money in the long term.

But I do agree that it's not a magic number, everyone has this figure in mind at the start of the year. I mean in January alone we have a huge uptick already and so it laid down the foundation as to what could happen this year and that's eventually did, a very positive start and end of the year price.

I don't believe much in AIs, because they are things that we have to use for other things, I have seen some AIs that they promote in telegram groups, and they are not the ones that one would be because they make mistakes anyway, and also those who promote Normally they lose, how can you sell something that does not give results, what I think about AIs is that they do not have the ability to make predictions, and perhaps they are experienced with possible cases where AIs simulate it, for these things it is not good to believe that an AI will make us win, because if AIs were very successful, they would be in the world winning many traders and that is not the case.

What investors do is wait, and why wait for what an AI says if we all know that Bitcoin is going to rise in price, it is something that we all know and that we assume that it will happen and it is like that, it does not matter that it comes to pass. $45k, they prefer to believe more in the articles that are being published from those who study the Bitcoin charts.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: OgNasty on December 08, 2023, 09:45:19 PM
Well, this prediction is looking real good right now. I’m a bit surprised we moved up so far so fast but I guess there’s been enough cycles now that the big boys have it figured out and are stacking all they can before the big god candle hits. My question to AI now would be, what will the price be 2 years from now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: nurilham on December 08, 2023, 09:46:47 PM
The possibility of reaching $45K is already quite positive,
Of course, it is very positive. The current price of Bitcoin already reaches $44.676 (CoinGecko data), it means the $45k is almost achieved. We can assume Bitcoin price may reach $45k today or tomorrow. The current price is very close with $45k, it seems to be achieved faster than AI prediction.

-snip- but if that really happens to the price of Bitcoin in the market later, that doesn't mean everyone has to make predictions via AI because this could just be a coincidence.
Indeed. Don't rely on AI prediction, it can be coincidence! But if AI prediction becomes more accurate, it will ease people in forecasting the price. As long as people still assume it is just a prediction and no 100% accurate, I think no problem to use AI for the price prediction.

I also think that the increase in Bitcoin prices will continue even though it has to be marked by several corrections.
We already saw a little correction, the price dropped below $44k. But it increases again above $44k today. It seems the price increase will continue because it is unlikely to drop significantly.



Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on December 09, 2023, 09:29:09 AM
I don't know if I should call it a glitch or something else because the way the price is just avoid $45k in the past 3 days after hitting $44k is just confusing. I still believe this December is more productive than the previous months from what we're seeing.
If care is not taken this new week is going to have a little bit of delay before going forward to surpass $44k and then we would be smiling to see $45-48k. We could be seeing a faster market movement to get to $50k by the end of this month, before that lets wait for Bitcoin price to get to $45k and if it stays in that amount for some hours or days, I believe it will hit $46k and above.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: kentrolla on December 09, 2023, 12:28:40 PM
I don't know if I should call it a glitch or something else because the way the price is just avoid $45k in the past 3 days after hitting $44k is just confusing. I still believe this December is more productive than the previous months from what we're seeing.
If care is not taken this new week is going to have a little bit of delay before going forward to surpass $44k and then we would be smiling to see $45-48k. We could be seeing a faster market movement to get to $50k by the end of this month, before that lets wait for Bitcoin price to get to $45k and if it stays in that amount for some hours or days, I believe it will hit $46k and above.

It's the repeat of same situation when Bitcoin was struggling to reach $40k and was fluctuating between $35k and $38k, I feel Bitcoin should eventually cross $45k once again by the end of next week because we have seen on more than one occasions Bitcoin starts to drop towards the end of December. If Bitcoin crosses $45k and heads towards or even breaches $50k then it will pool in more demand and thus avoid any possible correction at this moment. It's either above $45k by the end of next year or a possible market correct awaits us before halving.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Samurai trieng on December 09, 2023, 03:12:33 PM
If you look at the current trend, I am very optimistic that BTC will be able to reach $45k by the end of 2023, especially now that demand for BTC is increasing, of course with a lot of demand, the price of BTC will increase, perhaps for holders.  Bitcoin who want to make a profit can be ready to sell their assets at the end of this year... and buy them back when the BTC price starts to fall...


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 09, 2023, 03:41:16 PM
Well, this prediction is looking real good right now. I’m a bit surprised we moved up so far so fast but I guess there’s been enough cycles now that the big boys have it figured out and are stacking all they can before the big god candle hits. My question to AI now would be, what will the price be 2 years from now.
And you believe an AI could accurately predict the market? That's a misconception if I must say. This is a mere coincidence as the market could be precited even under gambling conditions and the predictor becomes right, so there is no big deal here. One thing I love is being constructive enough as to what could make AI predict the market accurately or not. And in all my reasoning, I realized that AIs are not spirit beings, neither are those who coded them, and they can't know more than what is coded in them, only that they can deliver it faster. In this light, if those who coded an AI could not gain perfectly from the market or have their perfect predictions, how would AIs do the magic?

And for the record, the market is dynamic, AI will never know the conditions that will cause a deviation from what it thought might happen. Just take for an example, Gold dropped about 350 pips ($3500 in case of Bitcoin comparison) yesterday when everyone thought it was on the verge of recovering the huge drop since Monday. But what happened was that the US news of NFP, Average Hourly Earnings, Unemployment Rates and others came out positive beyond economists' expectations and Gold dropped like mad. This is how it is, the AIs could study the chart very well, but is it the chart alone that causes the market to buy or sell? Anything can happen that is not planned. And how would they know what would become of the fundamental side of the market to make an accurate prediction?

They can't just know it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: yohananaomi on December 09, 2023, 03:42:44 PM
It's the repeat of same situation when Bitcoin was struggling to reach $40k and was fluctuating between $35k and $38k, I feel Bitcoin should eventually cross $45k once again by the end of next week because we have seen on more than one occasions Bitcoin starts to drop towards the end of December. If Bitcoin crosses $45k and heads towards or even breaches $50k then it will pool in more demand and thus avoid any possible correction at this moment. It's either above $45k by the end of next year or a possible market correct awaits us before halving.
This is a reasonable prediction if you look at where, since the beginning of November, Bitcoin's movement has continued to increase until now, where it has been at a price of $43.9K, and of course, it is very natural that if it continues to move up, it will reach $45K next week. will easily be done. However, it is very possible that there will be a correction again before entering the halving era, although the possibility will be small, because a very positive situation has been seen to be able to remain consistent in positive movements until the halving era occurs. Of course, that is everyone's hope because this is the momentum. It is time for Bitcoin to continue to reach its best point next year so that it reaches a renewable ATH.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: ivankoh on December 09, 2023, 06:11:53 PM
I think AI analyzed and gave the best results at a time. Subsequent market behavior will also be summarized later. Although AI is becoming more reliable, the possibility of replacing accurate predictions of the actual market situation cannot be ruled out. Personally, I still think that if we don't get any upside (which could come from ETF approval or other things) in the coming week then bitcoin could fall a bit at 38k-40k or rise exceed $48k by the end of this year. Also, we all know AI data can be edited for other purposes so I'm not too concerned about AI predictions in such situations.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on December 10, 2023, 03:18:21 AM
I don't know if I should call it a glitch or something else because the way the price is just avoid $45k in the past 3 days after hitting $44k is just confusing. I still believe this December is more productive than the previous months from what we're seeing.
If care is not taken this new week is going to have a little bit of delay before going forward to surpass $44k and then we would be smiling to see $45-48k. We could be seeing a faster market movement to get to $50k by the end of this month, before that lets wait for Bitcoin price to get to $45k and if it stays in that amount for some hours or days, I believe it will hit $46k and above.

It's the repeat of same situation when Bitcoin was struggling to reach $40k and was fluctuating between $35k and $38k, I feel Bitcoin should eventually cross $45k once again by the end of next week because we have seen on more than one occasions Bitcoin starts to drop towards the end of December. If Bitcoin crosses $45k and heads towards or even breaches $50k then it will pool in more demand and thus avoid any possible correction at this moment. It's either above $45k by the end of next year or a possible market correct awaits us before halving.

The price is not acting up like making that force of getting past $43k, that's just another barrier that's affecting the market price at the moment. I just hope this won't be another repetition of last month movement, if that's the case then let's wait and see the price going forward by the end of December. But I believe that whatsoever prediction is coming either from AI, I don't see the market price still struggling to get to $45k before the end of this week.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: crwth on December 10, 2023, 03:24:45 AM
Would this be a sign that it would replace those kind of trading signals? What an amazing prediction by the AI bot here. I’m pretty curious how the boat analyse this and what are the parameters that were given to it to arrive to this conclusion because it’s somehow accurate with what’s happening now. Maybe we could recreate it or improve more our skills when it comes to trading or such.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Obim34 on December 10, 2023, 09:04:47 AM
Pretty good prediction from AI but we can not make it look so worthy as many would have begin to use it for their day to day trade. I believe Bitcoin price is controlled by the supply and demand, if then who buys? (Human) who sells? (Human), how come they can predict what humans can do at a certain interval, the AI must have just said base on assumptions. With this I would not solely rely on the AI prediction. It might seem correct on this one but how often will it predict the future of Bitcoin and be absolute correct. Personally I have predicted the price before the close of the year to get to $48k and I believe the market is working towards that direction as it will move slowly till it reaches that point.




Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: flyingcarpet on December 10, 2023, 04:45:13 PM
Would this be a sign that it would replace those kind of trading signals? What an amazing prediction by the AI bot here. I’m pretty curious how the boat analyse this and what are the parameters that were given to it to arrive to this conclusion because it’s somehow accurate with what’s happening now. Maybe we could recreate it or improve more our skills when it comes to trading or such.

The prediction made by artificial intelligence may have come true this time, but this does not mean that it will always work. Artificial intelligence can make interpretations with certain data, that is, it cannot predict the future. Of course, he can analyze the data better than most people, but these analyzes may not always be accurate. Estimates are always made based on an assumption, and some investors can act according to these estimates.

Artificial intelligence benefits us in many areas and makes our jobs easier. When it comes to investment, I think we should act more carefully.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Falconer on December 10, 2023, 05:15:18 PM
-snip-
The prediction made by artificial intelligence may have come true this time, but this does not mean that it will always work. Artificial intelligence can make interpretations with certain data, that is, it cannot predict the future. Of course, he can analyze the data better than most people, but these analyzes may not always be accurate. Estimates are always made based on an assumption, and some investors can act according to these estimates.

Artificial intelligence benefits us in many areas and makes our jobs easier. When it comes to investment, I think we should act more carefully.
True, AI helps a lot and its predictions about the price of bitcoin at the end of the year are almost real. Bitcoin's fundamentals strongly support this prediction and it is almost becoming a reality. We are very close to $45k, but perhaps that prediction will not be as accurate as it once was in the future. It is recommended to carry out analysis and consider supporting factors such as good and bad news before investing, but don't just rely on AI.

To be honest, I don't use AI to predict prices, but AI has helped me to increase my knowledge and abilities in analyzing and managing and building investment portfolios well. Of course, AI will not always be right and investors must still proceed wisely and carefully.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on December 11, 2023, 09:18:37 AM
Would this be a sign that it would replace those kind of trading signals? What an amazing prediction by the AI bot here. I’m pretty curious how the boat analyse this and what are the parameters that were given to it to arrive to this conclusion because it’s somehow accurate with what’s happening now. Maybe we could recreate it or improve more our skills when it comes to trading or such.

Is not yet the end of 2023 and with the price looking as if is not yet to go make a move should be a sign to show that it might get past $45k and AI can be 100% wrong if care isn't taken, which I believe so.
Although the market price is some how having it rough in making a positive move and in the last 48hrs if not more you'd agree with me that we have been seeing a drastic drop in price, just hope this week can start up something positive.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Franctoshi on December 11, 2023, 10:51:30 AM
There were too many expectations from both traders and investors for the to reach $45k, and that's what the market loves most time, that is the market loves taking advantage of such huge number of people anticipating the price to hit such key levels and in some cases or even most time we see the price do go near the target but would not get the to the exact price during the period of expectation just like what is likely playing out, because I wonder what stops the price from reaching the exact price of $45k before dropping back to $42k current price  level.
I kind of think we may continue to get further correction in the coming days and weeks down to $38k or even lower $35k, as we have just opened up this week with a slight correction and the correction may even ball down to January before we start to see further upside movement in the price, just my thoughts.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: highalch on December 11, 2023, 02:00:58 PM
45k seems reasonable, but I would question how those AIs came to the decision.

A large language model does not simply do maths, does not take past price data into consideration, just makes up a random number from a huge amount of outdated text.

And most of the current generally available AIs are as good as few year old random spam articles scattered around the internet. Because they have exactly been trained on that data.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: letteredhub on December 12, 2023, 09:07:32 PM
Well, this prediction is looking real good right now. I’m a bit surprised we moved up so far so fast but I guess there’s been enough cycles now that the big boys have it figured out and are stacking all they can before the big god candle hits. My question to AI now would be, what will the price be 2 years from now.
when I first came up with this post some persons questioned the possibility of the prediction since it's an AI prediction which could have been from some data stock into the machine and was working based on available data provided to it. However with what the price of bitcoin has been now it proves that those data's collated by the AI in producing such prediction were a valid data. But for that of  a 2 years prediction from now is what I don't think any human or AI is capable of projecting correctly, for that's a long term projection unlike shorts terms of 6 months can be considered.
I really don't know anyway


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Smack That Ace on December 13, 2023, 09:22:50 AM
Well, this prediction is looking real good right now. I’m a bit surprised we moved up so far so fast but I guess there’s been enough cycles now that the big boys have it figured out and are stacking all they can before the big god candle hits. My question to AI now would be, what will the price be 2 years from now.
when I first came up with this post some persons questioned the possibility of the prediction since it's an AI prediction which could have been from some data stock into the machine and was working based on available data provided to it. However with what the price of bitcoin has been now it proves that those data's collated by the AI in producing such prediction were a valid data. But for that of  a 2 years prediction from now is what I don't think any human or AI is capable of projecting correctly, for that's a long term projection unlike shorts terms of 6 months can be considered.
I really don't know anyway

If you think AI can predict the price of bitcoin in the short to medium term, can you ask it to make predictions from now until the halving? Because with the prediction of 44k$ or 45k$, I also see some people who are good at technical analysis also making this prediction. But that is not enough to prove they are talented enough to understand every movement of bitcoin. I mean, with just one correct prediction, that doesn't mean anything. If they and AI can make more accurate predictions in the near term, then we can truly say that they are capable of predicting bitcoin prices.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: btc_angela on December 13, 2023, 11:18:41 AM
Well, this prediction is looking real good right now. I’m a bit surprised we moved up so far so fast but I guess there’s been enough cycles now that the big boys have it figured out and are stacking all they can before the big god candle hits. My question to AI now would be, what will the price be 2 years from now.
when I first came up with this post some persons questioned the possibility of the prediction since it's an AI prediction which could have been from some data stock into the machine and was working based on available data provided to it. However with what the price of bitcoin has been now it proves that those data's collated by the AI in producing such prediction were a valid data. But for that of  a 2 years prediction from now is what I don't think any human or AI is capable of projecting correctly, for that's a long term projection unlike shorts terms of 6 months can be considered.
I really don't know anyway

If you think AI can predict the price of bitcoin in the short to medium term, can you ask it to make predictions from now until the halving? Because with the prediction of 44k$ or 45k$, I also see some people who are good at technical analysis also making this prediction. But that is not enough to prove they are talented enough to understand every movement of bitcoin. I mean, with just one correct prediction, that doesn't mean anything. If they and AI can make more accurate predictions in the near term, then we can truly say that they are capable of predicting bitcoin prices.

I think in January, or at the start of the year, almost everyone says that the price could hit $45k-$50k at the end of the year. And it just so happen that AI too has predicted that. So we shouldn't take offense on what AI has predicted, and on the contrary it's good that it is in unison of what the majority sees way before the AI have predicted it.

There could be a lot of areas though that a AI could be great, might not be in the prediction of bitcoin price as there are a lot of actors to consider that only humans can see it. Like the emotions of the sentiments of the people, I doubt that AI can take that into consideration. It might just be looking for it's past historical logs to make his own conclusion as to what the price will be in the prediction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Ayers on December 13, 2023, 11:51:08 AM
Well, this prediction is looking real good right now. I’m a bit surprised we moved up so far so fast but I guess there’s been enough cycles now that the big boys have it figured out and are stacking all they can before the big god candle hits. My question to AI now would be, what will the price be 2 years from now.
when I first came up with this post some persons questioned the possibility of the prediction since it's an AI prediction which could have been from some data stock into the machine and was working based on available data provided to it. However with what the price of bitcoin has been now it proves that those data's collated by the AI in producing such prediction were a valid data. But for that of  a 2 years prediction from now is what I don't think any human or AI is capable of projecting correctly, for that's a long term projection unlike shorts terms of 6 months can be considered.
I really don't know anyway

If you think AI can predict the price of bitcoin in the short to medium term, can you ask it to make predictions from now until the halving? Because with the prediction of 44k$ or 45k$, I also see some people who are good at technical analysis also making this prediction. But that is not enough to prove they are talented enough to understand every movement of bitcoin. I mean, with just one correct prediction, that doesn't mean anything. If they and AI can make more accurate predictions in the near term, then we can truly say that they are capable of predicting bitcoin prices.

I think in January, or at the start of the year, almost everyone says that the price could hit $45k-$50k at the end of the year. And it just so happen that AI too has predicted that. So we shouldn't take offense on what AI has predicted, and on the contrary it's good that it is in unison of what the majority sees way before the AI have predicted it.

There could be a lot of areas though that a AI could be great, might not be in the prediction of bitcoin price as there are a lot of actors to consider that only humans can see it. Like the emotions of the sentiments of the people, I doubt that AI can take that into consideration. It might just be looking for it's past historical logs to make his own conclusion as to what the price will be in the prediction.

AI is just an application, a software, and for it to work, we need to provide it with data. So, I think many investors have predicted and expected that bitcoin could touch $45k - $50k by the end of this year and AI made its prediction based on that. So it's no surprise that it made this prediction, I myself made this prediction earlier this year but of course, it was just a random guess and I wasn't sure at all.

As I said before, AI is just a tool to assist us in some areas, and it cannot replace us to do all the work or make predictions about the future. It is not possible.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: yohananaomi on December 15, 2023, 08:30:41 AM
Is not yet the end of 2023 and with the price looking as if is not yet to go make a move should be a sign to show that it might get past $45k and AI can be 100% wrong if care isn't taken, which I believe so.
Although the market price is some how having it rough in making a positive move and in the last 48hrs if not more you'd agree with me that we have been seeing a drastic drop in price, just hope this week can start up something positive.
It is true that in recent days prices have tended to fall quite significantly compared to the beginning of December, so being able to lead to a positive situation is certainly not easy, even though from the start it has given signals of improvement.With only 2 weeks until the end of the year, will it really be able to bounce back and reach the end at $45K?I think this will not be greatly affected because next year is the era when the halving period will come, and usually it will start with a correction so that it can increase sharply. Of course, it is possible that the end of this year will start a correction period that will occur.But the most important thing is to keep buying and holding it when the opportunity is there, because at any time changes that we don't want can happen and we miss them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Marvell1 on December 15, 2023, 09:47:22 AM
Would this be a sign that it would replace those kind of trading signals? What an amazing prediction by the AI bot here. I’m pretty curious how the boat analyse this and what are the parameters that were given to it to arrive to this conclusion because it’s somehow accurate with what’s happening now. Maybe we could recreate it or improve more our skills when it comes to trading or such.

Is not yet the end of 2023 and with the price looking as if is not yet to go make a move should be a sign to show that it might get past $45k and AI can be 100% wrong if care isn't taken, which I believe so.
Although the market price is some how having it rough in making a positive move and in the last 48hrs if not more you'd agree with me that we have been seeing a drastic drop in price, just hope this week can start up something positive.
Although bitcoin never touched or surpassed $45k this year, there was a time when bitcoin crossed $44k. So the fact that the AI made a prediction of 45k USD, a quite accurate number and can be considered an unexpected success, you cannot ask it to predict accurately to every detail, to every number. No one can make such relative predictions, including self-proclaimed experts or professional traders. I'm curious what your prediction is for bitcoin later this year when you say AI is making wrong predictions about bitcoin price?
I've never believed in AI predictions before, but this time I was really surprised with its almost accurate prediction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Dave1 on December 15, 2023, 10:14:04 AM
Would this be a sign that it would replace those kind of trading signals? What an amazing prediction by the AI bot here. I’m pretty curious how the boat analyse this and what are the parameters that were given to it to arrive to this conclusion because it’s somehow accurate with what’s happening now. Maybe we could recreate it or improve more our skills when it comes to trading or such.

Is not yet the end of 2023 and with the price looking as if is not yet to go make a move should be a sign to show that it might get past $45k and AI can be 100% wrong if care isn't taken, which I believe so.
Although the market price is some how having it rough in making a positive move and in the last 48hrs if not more you'd agree with me that we have been seeing a drastic drop in price, just hope this week can start up something positive.
Although bitcoin never touched or surpassed $45k this year, there was a time when bitcoin crossed $44k. So the fact that the AI made a prediction of 45k USD, a quite accurate number and can be considered an unexpected success, you cannot ask it to predict accurately to every detail, to every number. No one can make such relative predictions, including self-proclaimed experts or professional traders. I'm curious what your prediction is for bitcoin later this year when you say AI is making wrong predictions about bitcoin price?
I've never believed in AI predictions before, but this time I was really surprised with its almost accurate prediction.

I think everyone here also see that $45k is possible, and as you have said, we almost touch it due to the bitcoin spot ETF news in the first 2 weeks of this month. So it's almost as accurate as what the AI has predicted.

But as I have said, many members too have that number in their mind, and so we might say that it's impressive prediction by AI, but the human touch is still there that's why more individual here who are more of a TA guy predicted it. So still though, I think we shouldn't take out the equation that those who have learn and knowledge on TA can also prediction similar to what AI can do.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Hamphser on December 15, 2023, 12:17:48 PM
Would this be a sign that it would replace those kind of trading signals? What an amazing prediction by the AI bot here. I’m pretty curious how the boat analyse this and what are the parameters that were given to it to arrive to this conclusion because it’s somehow accurate with what’s happening now. Maybe we could recreate it or improve more our skills when it comes to trading or such.

Is not yet the end of 2023 and with the price looking as if is not yet to go make a move should be a sign to show that it might get past $45k and AI can be 100% wrong if care isn't taken, which I believe so.
Although the market price is some how having it rough in making a positive move and in the last 48hrs if not more you'd agree with me that we have been seeing a drastic drop in price, just hope this week can start up something positive.
Although bitcoin never touched or surpassed $45k this year, there was a time when bitcoin crossed $44k. So the fact that the AI made a prediction of 45k USD, a quite accurate number and can be considered an unexpected success, you cannot ask it to predict accurately to every detail, to every number. No one can make such relative predictions, including self-proclaimed experts or professional traders. I'm curious what your prediction is for bitcoin later this year when you say AI is making wrong predictions about bitcoin price?
I've never believed in AI predictions before, but this time I was really surprised with its almost accurate prediction.

I think everyone here also see that $45k is possible, and as you have said, we almost touch it due to the bitcoin spot ETF news in the first 2 weeks of this month. So it's almost as accurate as what the AI has predicted.

But as I have said, many members too have that number in their mind, and so we might say that it's impressive prediction by AI, but the human touch is still there that's why more individual here who are more of a TA guy predicted it. So still though, I think we shouldn't take out the equation that those who have learn and knowledge on TA can also prediction similar to what AI can do.
We've been able to hit up that 45k but we did really have a rejection or shall we called correction on which it is really just that normal on having that kind of approach on which there's no such thing about
having those continous pumps like forever. You should really always anticipated that there would really be a dump because this is how market behaves or works on which it is really just that normal
because people that have been able to buy lower price would really be having that profit taking thing on which it is really that something to be typical step to be done.
Plus we do have those market sentiments that do play out around neither positive or negative then it do really make out some effect into the market on which it is really just that
something that we should really be that get prepared or else you would really be finding yourself to be that impulsive.

Sooner or later, we would really be breaking out that resistance on which we do know that we are fast approaching on halving event on which it would
really be just that normal that we would really be having those common inputs and insights about next bull run thing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: wmaurik on December 15, 2023, 01:15:16 PM
45k seems reasonable, but I would question how those AIs came to the decision.

A large language model does not simply do maths, does not take past price data into consideration, just makes up a random number from a huge amount of outdated text.

And most of the current generally available AIs are as good as few year old random spam articles scattered around the internet. Because they have exactly been trained on that data.
This is not a decision, but only a prediction based on data that already exists on the internet so that AI can process it more quickly in order to predict the price of Bitcoin which will occur at the end of this year. However, already in the middle of this year the price of Bitcoin still has not reached the predicted price level but is only approaching it and if this price level can reach it in the next two weeks, I think this level will be passed and will not stop at $45K.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on December 15, 2023, 01:40:43 PM
Is not yet the end of 2023 and with the price looking as if is not yet to go make a move should be a sign to show that it might get past $45k and AI can be 100% wrong if care isn't taken, which I believe so.
Although the market price is some how having it rough in making a positive move and in the last 48hrs if not more you'd agree with me that we have been seeing a drastic drop in price, just hope this week can start up something positive.
It is true that in recent days prices have tended to fall quite significantly compared to the beginning of December, so being able to lead to a positive situation is certainly not easy, even though from the start it has given signals of improvement.With only 2 weeks until the end of the year, will it really be able to bounce back and reach the end at $45K?I think this will not be greatly affected because next year is the era when the halving period will come, and usually it will start with a correction so that it can increase sharply. Of course, it is possible that the end of this year will start a correction period that will occur.But the most important thing is to keep buying and holding it when the opportunity is there, because at any time changes that we don't want can happen and we miss them.

The price as of late is not really impressive compared to when we first entered December, you'd agree with me that we had a better start of this month but with time when we're suppose to be expecting that continuous positive movement the price started going down drastically without any break of going up but down.
Of course that correction can come to play before the halving takes place just to put things in better shape and taking any opportunity that comes in the market price is something one need to be looking out for. I still believe that $45k and even more can be achieved before the end of this year, highest we get to see Bitcoin price at $47-48k.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: 8rch7 on December 15, 2023, 03:43:30 PM
Of course that correction can come to play before the halving takes place just to put things in better shape and taking any opportunity that comes in the market price is something one need to be looking out for. I still believe that $45k and even more can be achieved before the end of this year, highest we get to see Bitcoin price at $47-48k.
I don't think much problem for bitcoin achievement price around $47-48k before end this year because bitcoin price today $41,700 and left few percent for raising your prediction target. Correction is not new moment in bitcoin exactly when position on higher price will get moment for price correcting few percent but just get in short time before bitcoin returning to higher price. A lot of predicting with bitcoin before end this year but I am not really optimistic exactly Christmas have something bad for bitcoin price with potential get another correction again, just hope before Christmas bitcoin can raise up above $45-$47k and will be little correction due Christmas moment with many Christians sell their bitcoin fund.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Majestic-milf on December 15, 2023, 03:52:51 PM


The price as of late is not really impressive compared to when we first entered December, you'd agree with me that we had a better start of this month but with time when we're suppose to be expecting that continuous positive movement the price started going down drastically without any break of going up but down.
What do you expect? That's why it's a volatile coin, but it's kind of annoying especially if you are a day trader and you are depending on the increase so you can cash out big time. I'm tempted to believe the prices went up as a result of the news of an ETF adoption but we cannot really say that's the reason. Well, let's hope prices will go up before the year runs out since we still have like 16 days before new year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on December 15, 2023, 04:25:33 PM
Of course that correction can come to play before the halving takes place just to put things in better shape and taking any opportunity that comes in the market price is something one need to be looking out for. I still believe that $45k and even more can be achieved before the end of this year, highest we get to see Bitcoin price at $47-48k.
I don't think much problem for bitcoin achievement price around $47-48k before end this year because bitcoin price today $41,700 and left few percent for raising your prediction target. Correction is not new moment in bitcoin exactly when position on higher price will get moment for price correcting few percent but just get in short time before bitcoin returning to higher price. A lot of predicting with bitcoin before end this year but I am not really optimistic exactly Christmas have something bad for bitcoin price with potential get another correction again, just hope before Christmas bitcoin can raise up above $45-$47k and will be little correction due Christmas moment with many Christians sell their bitcoin fund.

That's the problem, with the price at $41k, it doesn't show any sign of going any further than it has at the moment, only if we see something like $43-44k then there's the hope of seeing the market price progressing but for now there's no positive force in achieving that.
Maybe next week would give us a boost but if nothing happens by next week then let's forget having $45k or even more before the end of this year.
Hoping to see a higher movement of price on Xmas, is not really going to be possible because you have to judge from what you're seeing and like I said it will increase (Bitcoin price) only if the price start making a positive move that's when it will be like you said concerning Xmas.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: flyingcarpet on December 15, 2023, 06:44:45 PM


The price as of late is not really impressive compared to when we first entered December, you'd agree with me that we had a better start of this month but with time when we're suppose to be expecting that continuous positive movement the price started going down drastically without any break of going up but down.
What do you expect? That's why it's a volatile coin, but it's kind of annoying especially if you are a day trader and you are depending on the increase so you can cash out big time. I'm tempted to believe the prices went up as a result of the news of an ETF adoption but we cannot really say that's the reason. Well, let's hope prices will go up before the year runs out since we still have like 16 days before new year.


This volatility has always existed. This is one of the things some people want most. I did not expect the price to increase throughout December and after a point the price fell. Maybe the price will rise again and we will end December with a high price.

There are a lot of people who have made their investments and are waiting for the price to increase, so when the price drops, they know they will have to wait longer and they panic. This is a normal situation in every investment. Everyone is waiting for positive news about Bitcoin and I think we will hear this news soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: erep on December 15, 2023, 08:34:13 PM
This is not a decision, but only a prediction based on data that already exists on the internet so that AI can process it more quickly in order to predict the price of Bitcoin which will occur at the end of this year. However, already in the middle of this year the price of Bitcoin still has not reached the predicted price level but is only approaching it and if this price level can reach it in the next two weeks, I think this level will be passed and will not stop at $45K.
We don't know the algorithm they developed in the AI system so that it produces predictions like professional analysis from real people, but I also think that they analyze from a collection of outdated analyzes and make new statements from AI to produce new statements about crypto market price analysis that convince everyone , the fact that the crypto market price has almost reached the prediction or 90% accuracy of the prediction, even though the journey reaches the middle of the month, AI predictions can be trusted but must be based on research and other supporting analysis.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on December 17, 2023, 08:07:29 PM


The price as of late is not really impressive compared to when we first entered December, you'd agree with me that we had a better start of this month but with time when we're suppose to be expecting that continuous positive movement the price started going down drastically without any break of going up but down.
What do you expect? That's why it's a volatile coin, but it's kind of annoying especially if you are a day trader and you are depending on the increase so you can cash out big time. I'm tempted to believe the prices went up as a result of the news of an ETF adoption but we cannot really say that's the reason. Well, let's hope prices will go up before the year runs out since we still have like 16 days before new year.


To be sincere with you what I'm expecting is something much more bigger than what we're seeing, day traders are also expecting to see the price of Bitcoin go beyond what we're seeing at the moment. The movement is not impressive compared to that of October and I'd say October is one of the best this year. We never can tell the actual reason for the price to be the way it is now, let's hope to see something different in this week we're entering..


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: YOSHIE on December 19, 2023, 03:43:27 PM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .
Maybe Al is one of the ones we can see currently circulating on the internet who is speculating and predicting Bitcoin for now, but you need to know that predictions and speculation are only limited to boosting enthusiasm for investors and newcomers who are involved in the crypto world.

But whatever predictions Al, experts, companies, rulers and so on have made, for me it is a form of enthusiasm, but for me, experience from year to year is what convinces me, $45k or $50k for me is too low for the price of Bitcoin entering the new year, I think speculatively the price of Bitcoin could reach above the price that has happened before.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: wmaurik on December 19, 2023, 10:59:41 PM
We don't know the algorithm they developed in the AI system so that it produces predictions like professional analysis from real people, but I also think that they analyze from a collection of outdated analyzes and make new statements from AI to produce new statements about crypto market price analysis that convince everyone , the fact that the crypto market price has almost reached the prediction or 90% accuracy of the prediction, even though the journey reaches the middle of the month, AI predictions can be trusted but must be based on research and other supporting analysis.
If that price prediction is said for this year or for the end of this year, everyone only needs to wait about eleven more days before we all end this year quite well and happily at a certain price level even though what the AI predicted has almost come true for all person. Of the several price movements that are still occurring in Bitcoin this month, the price is always held back and corrected when it almost touches $44K and even when it passes $44K in a few days. But if by the end of this year the price of Bitcoin can only be at $44K, that means the accuracy created by AI is only around 90%.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: danadc on December 20, 2023, 07:10:39 PM
The price of Bitcoin predicted by an AI is something that for me is not trustworthy, the AI that we know is not so reliable, the things that we can see are very different from the ones that we know and we can see that the AIs that have Really The people with a lot of power are the ones who run the world, they know very well what is happening, so what is coming out so far is very obsolete compared to those who really know what it is like, that is why they keep us entertained with what I don't know what they can do and bring us to light, but what really has the power to create predictions is in the hands of people with a lot of money. Maybe they know when the price goes and everything, but it's Difficult for them to share it.

An AI is quite obvious when they go out to make any type of prediction and many are going to get carried away , but is it advisable to get carried away by an AI ? By a robot?


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: kawetsriyanto on December 20, 2023, 08:48:55 PM
Maybe Al is one of the ones we can see currently circulating on the internet who is speculating and predicting Bitcoin for now, but you need to know that predictions and speculation are only limited to boosting enthusiasm for investors and newcomers who are involved in the crypto world.
Indeed. Everyone actually can make their own prediction, we don't rely on AI or other people predictions. So, AI prediction is just for the beginners who are curious about the price, it is just to motivate them. We also must realize that AI won't predict it itself, people must program such indicators on the AI system, so AI can predict it with a certain way. In this matter, I think it is still human prediction, AI just help us to determine a certain number of possible price in the future.

But whatever predictions Al, experts, companies, rulers and so on have made, for me it is a form of enthusiasm, but for me, experience from year to year is what convinces me, $45k or $50k for me is too low for the price of Bitcoin entering the new year, I think speculatively the price of Bitcoin could reach above the price that has happened before.
Why $45k - $50k is too low? The pattern of current bullish may be different from the previous one, right? Nothing is certain in crypto, everything is very possible to change. So, considering the current Bitcoin price movement, I think the price won't be above $50k in the early of the new year. And at the end of this year, the price may not change significantly, it seems to have a sideway.



Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: ShowOff on December 20, 2023, 09:52:07 PM
But whatever predictions Al, experts, companies, rulers and so on have made, for me it is a form of enthusiasm, but for me, experience from year to year is what convinces me, $45k or $50k for me is too low for the price of Bitcoin entering the new year, I think speculatively the price of Bitcoin could reach above the price that has happened before.
Why $45k - $50k is too low? The pattern of current bullish may be different from the previous one, right? Nothing is certain in crypto, everything is very possible to change. So, considering the current Bitcoin price movement, I think the price won't be above $50k in the early of the new year. And at the end of this year, the price may not change significantly, it seems to have a sideway.

I think so too, I mean sideways is more likely than passing $50k. I'm not sure about $50k breaking this December, unless bitcoin gets big news like the approval of a spot bitcoin ETF. Everyone is waiting for the news, but we may need to wait for the decision at the beginning of next year. The nice thing today is, bitcoin price has returned to $44k although it quickly returned to $43,500. The rise is fast and the fall is also fast, panic selling is still difficult to avoid.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: btc_angela on December 23, 2023, 11:13:42 AM
But whatever predictions Al, experts, companies, rulers and so on have made, for me it is a form of enthusiasm, but for me, experience from year to year is what convinces me, $45k or $50k for me is too low for the price of Bitcoin entering the new year, I think speculatively the price of Bitcoin could reach above the price that has happened before.
Why $45k - $50k is too low? The pattern of current bullish may be different from the previous one, right? Nothing is certain in crypto, everything is very possible to change. So, considering the current Bitcoin price movement, I think the price won't be above $50k in the early of the new year. And at the end of this year, the price may not change significantly, it seems to have a sideway.

I think so too, I mean sideways is more likely than passing $50k. I'm not sure about $50k breaking this December, unless bitcoin gets big news like the approval of a spot bitcoin ETF. Everyone is waiting for the news, but we may need to wait for the decision at the beginning of next year. The nice thing today is, bitcoin price has returned to $44k although it quickly returned to $43,500. The rise is fast and the fall is also fast, panic selling is still difficult to avoid.

There's no approval news, early is January for Blackrock, so next year will be exciting for us. What is the chance that SEC will approved it early? I think it's very high. So most likely if AI is correct, the price could be near or around $45k.

However, I wouldn't put to much emphasize and let's not be amazed by the prediction. I mean we can also make that kind of prediction and even before this thread open, I'm sure majority of us have that number way before. Maybe after a good month, January-March, we think that the price at the endo will be around $45k-$50k and that's what we are seeing right now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: erep on December 23, 2023, 10:59:09 PM
If that price prediction is said for this year or for the end of this year, everyone only needs to wait about eleven more days before we all end this year quite well and happily at a certain price level even though what the AI predicted has almost come true for all person. Of the several price movements that are still occurring in Bitcoin this month, the price is always held back and corrected when it almost touches $44K and even when it passes $44K in a few days. But if by the end of this year the price of Bitcoin can only be at $44K, that means the accuracy created by AI is only around 90%.
We have a few more days to see the potential for the market to grow at a price of $45k but I am sure the predictions will reach the target because the current market price is $44k, some people may predict again for next year's price analysis using AI, people trust predictions more realistic compared to human predictions which predict high prices that can potentially be achieved over the next 5 years, but actually we need a tool that can accurately predict the price of bitcoin in the next few months.

From several speculation threads that I have reviewed, I might get that the AI predictions in this thread are predictions with the right predictions, many people will trust AI to predict bitcoin for speculation on bitcoin prices in 2024.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: mirakal on December 29, 2023, 11:21:48 PM
45k seems reasonable, but I would question how those AIs came to the decision.

A large language model does not simply do maths, does not take past price data into consideration, just makes up a random number from a huge amount of outdated text.

And most of the current generally available AIs are as good as few year old random spam articles scattered around the internet. Because they have exactly been trained on that data.
This is not a decision, but only a prediction based on data that already exists on the internet so that AI can process it more quickly in order to predict the price of Bitcoin which will occur at the end of this year. However, already in the middle of this year the price of Bitcoin still has not reached the predicted price level but is only approaching it and if this price level can reach it in the next two weeks, I think this level will be passed and will not stop at $45K.
We are now at the last days of the year and bitcoin price even dropped a little, but it never realized the AI prediction of $45k but it was really closed to that.  However, if this prediction may fail by the end of this year, then it's very much possible by early january next year. AIs predictions were only based on the onhand datas in the internet so its not really a complete prediction without good basis. Sometimes, AI hits also the exact price prediction but most of the time it didn't or it might only close to the reality.

DYOR is the key. If we can't rely AI to the highest level, then probably our own market analysis will do the math well.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 30, 2023, 01:21:41 AM
Would this be a sign that it would replace those kind of trading signals? What an amazing prediction by the AI bot here. I’m pretty curious how the boat analyse this and what are the parameters that were given to it to arrive to this conclusion because it’s somehow accurate with what’s happening now. Maybe we could recreate it or improve more our skills when it comes to trading or such.

Is not yet the end of 2023 and with the price looking as if is not yet to go make a move should be a sign to show that it might get past $45k and AI can be 100% wrong if care isn't taken, which I believe so.
Although the market price is some how having it rough in making a positive move and in the last 48hrs if not more you'd agree with me that we have been seeing a drastic drop in price, just hope this week can start up something positive.
Although bitcoin never touched or surpassed $45k this year, there was a time when bitcoin crossed $44k. So the fact that the AI made a prediction of 45k USD, a quite accurate number and can be considered an unexpected success, you cannot ask it to predict accurately to every detail, to every number. No one can make such relative predictions, including self-proclaimed experts or professional traders. I'm curious what your prediction is for bitcoin later this year when you say AI is making wrong predictions about bitcoin price?
I've never believed in AI predictions before, but this time I was really surprised with its almost accurate prediction.
Don't tell me you are falling for this AI nonsense, such is not capable of predicting the price of any asset accurately, it can only try but the market is too dynamic for that. Come to think of it, what did the AI use to predict the market? It can never do more than the humans that coded it. Also, the market is not what any AI can predict like that, do you know why? Many factors will influence the market over time (technical and fundamentals), so there is a difference between prediction and guesswork. But if one could actually prove with constructive facts the modality that the AI used to get to that figure, maybe I can shift the ground a little. Regardless, the prediction has not passed yet and we are about 2 days to the end of 2023. And with the latest development in the market, I am certain that Bitcoin will never hit the price again However, for it to have hit about $44,500 is a good one, but it was so easy to predict such by everyone even without the AI due to the strong bullish condition of the market at the time the OP wrote it. Figures like $40,000, $45,000 and $50,000 have never been uncommon in Bitcoin speculations, so this is not special.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Kemarit on December 31, 2023, 07:18:45 PM
If that price prediction is said for this year or for the end of this year, everyone only needs to wait about eleven more days before we all end this year quite well and happily at a certain price level even though what the AI predicted has almost come true for all person. Of the several price movements that are still occurring in Bitcoin this month, the price is always held back and corrected when it almost touches $44K and even when it passes $44K in a few days. But if by the end of this year the price of Bitcoin can only be at $44K, that means the accuracy created by AI is only around 90%.
We have a few more days to see the potential for the market to grow at a price of $45k but I am sure the predictions will reach the target because the current market price is $44k, some people may predict again for next year's price analysis using AI, people trust predictions more realistic compared to human predictions which predict high prices that can potentially be achieved over the next 5 years, but actually we need a tool that can accurately predict the price of bitcoin in the next few months.

From several speculation threads that I have reviewed, I might get that the AI predictions in this thread are predictions with the right predictions, many people will trust AI to predict bitcoin for speculation on bitcoin prices in 2024.

Almost but not quiet, we are $42,000 at the end of the year, so it's very close prediction but we all know that if humans or individuals like us have difficulty predicting the price, then what's more with AI. There could still be room for improvement in AI though, but still, AI is feed by us so what do you expect?

At least though as far as the price, we are above $40,000 and that is huge entering 2024, we are in a momentum to get over at least $50,000 before the halving. And if I'm not mistaken, everyone is waiting for the Bitcoin Spot ETF approval this January, so it's huge month for us.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: mich on January 02, 2024, 06:00:43 AM
Well now we can see the 6 AI Chatbots are correct. Price of Bitcoin is now more then 45k. It is above 45k for first time since April 2022 just ahead of possible ETF approval that might happen any time now.

https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-price-surges-above-45-000-for-first-time-since-april-2022-on-etf-approval-hopes-11704165281422.html


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: WhyFhy on January 02, 2024, 06:06:03 AM
Well now we can see the 6 AI Chatbots are correct. Price of Bitcoin is now more then 45k. It is above 45k for first time since April 2022 just ahead of possible ETF approval that might happen any time now.

https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-price-surges-above-45-000-for-first-time-since-april-2022-on-etf-approval-hopes-11704165281422.html

If we are going verbatim, it's wrong. "Starting of 2024" would make it correct. (Right?)
But, the results and timing are close enough to establish some good credibility.

Edit ,2023 was a typo.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: KingsDen on January 02, 2024, 08:57:06 AM
Well now we can see the 6 AI Chatbots are correct. Price of Bitcoin is now more then 45k. It is above 45k for first time since April 2022 just ahead of possible ETF approval that might happen any time now.

https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-price-surges-above-45-000-for-first-time-since-april-2022-on-etf-approval-hopes-11704165281422.html

If we are going verbatim, it's wrong. "Starting of 2023" would make it correct. (Right?)
But, the results and timing are close enough to establish some good credibility.


Why would starting of 2023 make it correct. The title of OP said "...by ending of 2023". The timing is highly accurate on the premise of speculation. I have never seen it being so close before. Besides, there has been prediction that bitcoin will not exceed 45k in 2023. It was a popular opinion before AI took up the information. This does not now validate that we should follow the AI verbatim from henceforth.

45k seems reasonable, but I would question how those AIs came to the decision.

A large language model does not simply do maths, does not take past price data into consideration, just makes up a random number from a huge amount of outdated text.

And most of the current generally available AIs are as good as few year old random spam articles scattered around the internet. Because they have exactly been trained on that data.
This is not a decision, but only a prediction based on data that already exists on the internet so that AI can process it more quickly in order to predict the price of Bitcoin which will occur at the end of this year. However, already in the middle of this year the price of Bitcoin still has not reached the predicted price level but is only approaching it and if this price level can reach it in the next two weeks, I think this level will be passed and will not stop at $45K.
We are now at the last days of the year and bitcoin price even dropped a little, but it never realized the AI prediction of $45k but it was really closed to that.  However, if this prediction may fail by the end of this year, then it's very much possible by early january next year. AIs predictions were only based on the onhand datas in the internet so its not really a complete prediction without good basis. Sometimes, AI hits also the exact price prediction but most of the time it didn't or it might only close to the reality.

DYOR is the key. If we can't rely AI to the highest level, then probably our own market analysis will do the math well.
While were processing how AI prediction, it proved us wrong. It has happened as predicted. Although you have said that if the 45k prediction fails at the end of 2023, that will happen in the first week of 2024. We can actually argue that AI uses different time zone, maybe AI is still in 2023 ;D
I agree with you that AI makes decisions from random data (some outdated), but the fun of it is that we are happy seeing AI prediction happen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Franctoshi on January 02, 2024, 09:35:55 AM
Good predictions By the AI prediction tools though it happened today, a few days after the end of 2023 December 31st they predicted, but eventually, it was actually a good timing. However, this is not enough reason to rely on this AI for accuracy and doesn't mean they can't be wrong as well, we need to see more of accurate predictions like this in the future to ascertain their credibility. I will only use such AI tools as an aid to my market analysis, but not to rely totally on this AI tools in taking market decisions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction
Post by: Kemarit on January 02, 2024, 09:43:38 AM
Good predictions By the AI prediction tools though it happened today, a few days after the end of 2023 December 31st they predicted, but eventually, it was actually a good timing. However, this is not enough reason to rely on this AI for accuracy and doesn't mean they can't be wrong as well, we need to see more of accurate predictions like this in the future to ascertain their credibility. I will only use such AI tools as an aid to my market analysis, but not to rely totally on this AI tools in taking market decisions.

Yes, as I said before, it was very close, but fortunately, at the start of the year, with all the bullish sentiments all over the crypto market, suddenly we hit $45,000 and even higher. So with the way it looks, it seems that the AI is on the dot, also it's off like a day or two with it's own prediction.

Nevertheless, AI or not, the market seems to be going though to this price. As we all know, this bullishness is because of the Bitcoin ETF approval that everyone is expecting this month. And so they jump on the market already for this big anticipation.