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The topic title already expresses the theme of the post, but I will try to write in detail. Technically, we are in a bull market, though we don't know if it is real or fake. But we noticed a few newly born altcoins during the last bear season that have potential growth. A few altcoins also gained enough popularity from the crypto community. For example, we can say ARB and PEPE. Both coins haven't met with the bull market previously since they were newly minted. What's your thoughts about these types of coins that were borne during the last bear market? I feel these types of coins would give us a good return during a real bull run. Because all of them have never met a bull and are ready to grow. But we have to make sure of its popularity and potential. Those coins are listed on the biggest exchanges; we may consider them to accumulate. Otherwise, it's quite risky to make money.

Let us know if you have a few names for those borne during bear but potential to grow.

For me, it is advisable to invest but not take financial advice.
1. ARB
2. PEPE

I get your point, but PEPE is a memecoin and those don't often stand the test of time. ARB however, I would expect to do well in the next bull mrkt it has everything it could possibly need to make that happen.

Have you taken statistics of altcoin that are being launched this year?
To me since from the turbulence of FTX the rate at which newly birth project were being introduced are reduced because of the unstable market which led to serious sentiment and a sudden dropped within the market. I always experience that whenever it's close to bullrun maybe a year to bull run or few months to it we often witness huge volume of different projects launching to always utilize the bull run, correct me if I am wrong there are projects that are being launched before bullrun and after bull run we don't get to know any update about that same project. Even most of the reputable exchange like Binance do get such project delisted if they aren't making any progress in there platform I have witnessed a scenario like that before, to whatever quality you may finds those projects we should also think that altcoin are very risky to rely on hence they can fail at anytime.

Personally these layer 2 coin that was appearing in bearish, i'm still doubtful about them, the thing is that they are layer 2, meaning their use case fades as ethereum being upgraded, maybe in the future when bullish come and ethereum getting crowded that the transaction fee become enormous it might be relevant again but nowadays i've seen many layer 2 fading in term of popularity because layer 2 being released so frequently by other devs that at this point the competition is like those competition of meme coin.
i would refrain from investing in meme coin at bearish, i mean i know meme coin might have chance to increase but right now too much meme coin in the market we don't know which meme coin gonna increase, but when it comes to layer 2, we'll see, if eth starting to get congested, maybe its good idea to invest.

I haven't really followed up on alts for a long while now since the last time they did me dirty, but I guess we rise no matter what tries to bring us down. My thoughts on these new coins are that they have the potential to do well, tho not guaranteed but maybe people can look back at it before the Bull run kicks off properly. Though, I prefer ARB to PEPE because PEPE is just a memecoin. Merely looking at the price difference too, you can tell which of them is more Important. If ARB could do that in the bear market, the bull run should boost it even more.

TBH, I'm thinking of investing into ARB a few months ago, and I have the money at that time. What prevented me from doing it is the fact that, it's tokens are being given to people thru an airdrop, and all the time, those who got it for free will just sell it immediately, so basically for them it's free money. I waited for a long time, hoping that it will reach below a dollar. Well, it went below for quite some time, but I don't have money at that time anymore because I invested it into another asset already.

As for PEPE, I hate shitcoins. Like I really hate them so much because of the fact that many meme coins are being created just to scam people. Yes there are some who are making profits investing into it, and some who became rich investing into it, but how many investors lost their money just because they choose to invest into these meme coins rather than investing into safer, and established cryptocurrencies? We have a choice to invest into safer coins, but we choose to invest into riskier, and a shitcoin like PEPE who doesn't have any use case at all.

Thoughts? I will not talk anymore about PEPE, but for ARB, it's ATH is around $8.6 base on Coingecko. There might be a chance that it might reach that price again or even surpassing during the bull market, but there's a chance that it might not be just like what happened to EOS. Their potential? ARB is a good token, and will surely go up in it's price during the bull market. Same might happen with PEPE, but will not touch that shitcoin.

In my opinion, it's a miss. Pepe is a meme coin currently valued at $500 million, and it should be noted that it is not the only meme coin on the market, the competition is huge, and the only thing Pepe has is a name. Will it grow in this bull market? It is possible, but I wouldn't put my money on it, because Pepe is already overvalued by at least 100x, meme coins have been used by scammers to extract money from investors for at least 3 years - that should be enough. It is possible that in the current bull market we will encounter a new type of tokens (maybe AI tokens or new crypto ETF candidates after BTC is listed?). Definitely, when in 2017 we had a bubble of "next, better ETH" - neo, nem, eos, lisk etc. their popularity ended with the end of alt seazon and during the next one, people focused on defi, nft forgeting about previous bull market stars.

Personally I've really not put much interest on altcoins, because of the many negatives that are attributed to them. You'd hear people call them shitcoins,, that their used to scam investors and so on, this has really discouraged me to have interest on anything altcoins. But if I were into altcoins I'll consider buying the ones that have the potentials of staying long in the market, i also know that the best and most profitable time to buy anything crypto related is in the bearish run, so I'll take advantage of it and invest what i can afford to loose, because of the risks involved.

Risk is a factor in any investment, but some investments like altcoins carries more risks, so if new altcoins are minted I'd look at the outcomes of similar coins that were minted during bearish markets and see how they fared afterwards, that'll at least be a guide on how to invest in new altcoins. For now I'm just content in bitcoin investment, because it has proven to withstand the test of time.

I get your point, but PEPE is not the best choice. It's a memecoin. It has nothing besides hype, and people are kinda forgetting about it right now. I don't think that the bull run will change that much.

I’ll be careful and only invest in coins that have strong fundamentals, have a clear and concise use case, and solve a real-world problem.
Coins work interestingly and innovative projects, and they have strong teams behind them, are experienced, and have a good track record.
I still prefer to look for coins that are listed on reputable exchanges.
I’m not yet investing with these coins, but I’m starting to look at them, most of them are built in Cosmos:
Aptos (APT), Sui (SUI), Osmosis (OSMO), Juno (JUNO), Secret Network (SCRT), Cosmos Hub (ATOM)

What dirty they did to you? Are you sure you invest on the best alts only? But they can also decline sometimes and it wasn't really their fault. If you believe that they and other cryptos can still recover, then you should not lose hope but just continue hodling and buying. For the new coins the OP mentioned, I think only one of them has a potential and that is none other than ARB.

PEPE isn't even a new coin or token and then it is also a meme coin, which hype is already over. Price doesn't tell if which coin is important but many unknowledgeable people thinks that cheap coins are more better to invest. A better way to invest actually is if we also check other stats of the coin and investigate if they are legit or not.

Altcoins that are released when the market is sideways or bear market are according to my knowledge good. If the founders release their project in a market condition that is not going up then the project would have something to hold on. Whereas those projects that come out in bulk market are projects that are meant to profit the founders.

I have seen a lot good amount of memecoins came up in 20121 when the market was having an upward trend. These coins are still active but their as those who invested still believe in their potential. Most of them according to my judgement don't contribute anything. Yet, the craze and hype of such projects still exists.

I think its is true that ARB and PEPE are now very popular altcoins and in the past months many investors made some killing with them. The idea that since these two got started during the bear market so when the bear comes there is a big chance that they can be exploding a lot...hence producing more wealth for their holders...well it come true though there is no guarantee whatsoever that it would happen that way because we know that in the world of cryptocurrency there will always be small and big surprises just waiting in the corner so that we can only speculate and wish. Therefore, good luck to the people who are now deciding they gonna get more ARB and PEPE.

I was only reminiscing some time ago some newly launched altcoin failed me. I totally understand that it is on me because I was conscious when I jumped in. Nonetheless, I knew it could go south.

How do you mean that the price of a coin doesn’t matter? The reason Bitcoin is priced where it is today is not just because it’s the father of crypto. It has value and offers something. I know you may want to talk about memecoins that are meaningless but still have value, well, I’ll give that to the hype. When the noise is louder, the price goes higher. But a currency needs more than hype to be reliable. It should be able to solve a problem, etc.

From what I've learned from the past bull market I've experienced, bear market coins are the one who makes really good gains when the bull market arrives. The coins in the bear market are being on the top when their trends were realized. As long as the coin are handled by a solid team, has a great project idea and attracted a lot of big investors, the would probably shine during the bull market. Old good quality coins would still be profitable but I think they will be outshined by the new coins in terms of profit potential.

1. ARB - I could say that there's really that a potential for this upcoming bull run but i would rather consider KAS than with ARB but its not something a
bad option to have if we do speak about diversification. There are really indeed new potential coins on which we can really say that it is really having that chance
but of course everything wont really be that so sure.

2. PEPE- Then it do gets easily listed on Binance in together with FLOKI on which there's something behind or having plans with this meme coin.
We dont know if this one could FLip out SHIB yet there are tons of rumors about it.

Currently the coins that i've been holding is GFAL,KAS,QNT,TAO.
They do have different narratives but turns out that these projects are worth to hold --- Not a financial advise----

I think people buying newly created altcoins are probably people who use words like borned. There’s no way that logically thinking people see Bitcoin and then think to themselves that they should probably dump all their money into some cloned worthless version some teenager is pushing as being able to change the world. I suspect the people buying them are either on a lot of drugs, or they’re just hoping to be able to do a quick flip to scam someone else before they get scammed.

The potential to obtain profits with those coins is there, however the altcoin market is very susceptible to hype, then it would not surprise me if many of those coins got ignored and were replaced by similar coins which were hyped at the time and got all of that money invested in them instead, so it is still important to be careful as even if there are some coins that may seem like they will do well during the next bull run, the risk you are taking is still on the high side and it is because of this that I prefer to simply stick to bitcoin.

  Well, to be honest, ARB and PEPE are not the only altcoins that will face the bull market for the first time; there are others that also have the potential to keep up with Bitcoin's rally next year. Apart from that, I also know that many people will say that this Pepe coin is worthless; it is a shit coin; it will not help us; instead, the capital that we will use here will be wasted; the risk is too high; these are the words that we often hear when others see it as a meme coin.

The question is, what if this is a meme coin? What now if there is a risk? Why is Pepe Coin the only one with high risk in the crypto space we live in? Go ahead and say that at least one crypto is risk-free in the industry we live in. How many of us here have said bad things about meme coins like Pepe coins and ended up being embarrassed by what we said like that?

  Honestly, personally, I have holdings of Pepe Coin, not a large amount, but somehow at least I have, because first there is the first time it will participate in the bull run or the upcoming halving; the daily trading volume is not that bad at all to be considered. It's a joke if we look at it, and I also saw that he has the potential to be able to keep up with the rise of Bitcoin, not even as much as its value. This is my assessment and observation.

Got ARB along with the airdrop but I got out between 1.3-1.5 even though it peaked at > $1.8. My biggest concerns with ARB is that only 12% of the supply is worth around $1.3B with over 87% still going to come into the circulation. At 10B ARB tokens total supply, it would be difficult for ARB to reach a price of $10 - $20.  It's a really good project, However, the upside potential isn't much due to the reasons I already mentioned. Another point I'd like to note is that ARB isn't the only L2 project right now. If ZK and other competitors goes live, ARB won't get as much attention or traction and it has now.

As for PEPE, I haven't owned it before and somehow I have zero interest to do so since I already missed it's insane ride earlier this year.

The Bullrun is always characterised by coins with uptrends and much green candles, it can be said that the investors get back into the market during the bullrun, thereby making huge investments in projects that are newly launched and then making profits but the bear market is where the OG investors actually set their traps.

As an OG investor, it is not news that investment opportunities are more in the bear season than the bullrun as they tend to breakeven much faster than those who wait to confirm the bullrun before investing. The only difference is that investors at bear seasons have to exercise a great degree of patience to benefit from their investments.

I dunno about PEPE and I don't wanna get in it at current price, when it has already gained so much, it feels silly to get in now and also there are better coins around.

Regarding ARB I agree, coins borne with use case in bear market do significantly well during bull. However, coins that are borne solely to cash in on hype (like AI tokens, and Meme tokens) — they are to be avoided.

I haven't looked at all of them but some of them are doing very well. Especially the project OP talked about ARB is doing very well. Their team is active in their project taking initiative to promote new project and their ecosystem is still one of the biggest ones in terms of TVL. Op mentioned PEPE which is a meme coin and i don't think meme projects will ever be in trend again. What happens with pepe happens with Doge and shiba Inu as well. Before the mega pump no one knew about this project and all of a sudden this project started rallying. Though these projects give huge profits, it is hard to catch up and due to lots of manipulation they can be extremely dangerous for investors.

Coins like ARB and PEPE which haven't experienced a bull market before  could have the opportunity for significant growth if they gain popularity as they gained at the time of launch or hype.

By the way this is a personal decision if anyone have a good risk level so he/she can enter in these kind of projects which are newly born they can give a great opportunity or can give you a loss too. But in the bull market they can give a huge or less profit but they will give profit if you accumulate at this time.

The coin that was launched just before Bitcoin hit 37k was MEME. This coin got listed on Binance and saw a good pump and now everyone is booking profit. I feel it will again make a come back when Bitcoin goes full throttle. Another coin that maing everyone mad in the Bitcoin community including.me is ORDI. It was listed recently on Binance and is continuously getting pumped. It started from $10 and now is trading on $21. This is another project to look into when the bull run makes a comeback.

For me, Pepe is a good project we don't have to miss because it has a very good team and good liquidity. Although the project had been passing through it hardest time for a while now and I know that soon it will come back fully to life again.

 There are good meme projects in the market and I hope more will be launched soon since there are many crypto projects that are waiting for the bull market to commence before it got launched. We just have to scrutinize the altcoins market and purchase good coins that we can hold for a very long time because the bull market is going to be long and a lot is going to happen. Pepe and other meme projects are good for holding.

It depends on how you see. There are so much issues and drama on pepe, I was discourage in putting my money and also too late for the profits. Meme coin is different in my opinion as the full potential of it hasn't been realized yet, I'm putting some dollars of it and forget it until I can hear a news about it. It's the only MEME was the only meme coin I bought this bear market, I'm personally having a high hopes since this is a 9gag token and a gamble for me because I don't really like the majority of meme coins but yeah, I'm hoping to make some profit out of it.

In fact, we can say that PEPE and ARB have experienced skyrocketing price increases because of their hype. And whether in the future these two coins will be able to survive and rise as they did during the hype before or even higher, will depend on several things.

especially perhaps how the developer will develop the seriousness of this project. And also what is the response or response from investors. Hopefully they are not projects that are abandoned when they have reached a price plateau at a certain rate and are over the hype period. Of course, the holders also want these coins to really rise again significantly in their first bullish era.

I don't really like meme coin so PEPE is not so much, ARB on the other hand is one of the most successful Layer 2 project of Ethereum. Compared other altcoins ARB hold up pretty well on bear market the lowest price was only 30% from the pre-bear market price, and currently it already bounce back to their pre-bear market price.

Other coin that I watch has doing pretty well even on the bear market is ADA, even though it's not a new project, but the price could still surge in the future.

At this moment, if i had money it would be these 4

1. ETH
2. SOL
3. DUSK
4. BNB
5. New coins or projects that i don't know about yet.

I would keep some in usdt just because i know the pain of not having any more money to invest a good opportunity appears out of the blue.
I am also dividing it more then just 2 because i am certain at least one of them isn't taking a part in bull market and keeps on growing in usd because eth is growing even more.

I can't agree with ARB and pepe, as i quite like the ARB, i don't see the point with the token (markets probably disagree with me)
And pepe... Well it's a joke got out of hand. Could be valuable but i can't tell my kids that i have blown my retirement money on memecoins.

Each person will have their own assessment of how they understand any crypto, and for new cryptos I also have some criteria to evaluate them.

- ARB, to me it is absolutely a longterm development crypto because the solution it is solving as well as building the infrastructure is helping quite a lot in the crypto market. Actually, if you look at every aspect of quality, team, marketing strategy,... this is a project with many beneficial factors. And I personally speculate that it will make a big splash in the next bull market cycle.

- PEPE, simply a hype crypto and long-term investors will not like it because most of the form in which it develops lacks sustainable value, the development is built on the way it is hyped and the house phase Investing really doesn't have many options in the short term. There is a lot of risk involved but the trade-off is the ability to make a quick profit. I often express that it is more like a gambling game than having to analyze too much.

Besides, testing and shaping the next trends leads to investment capital flows into new areas, or further development of old areas that have not been properly evaluated. Each stage has new things appearing and the filtering only retains projects that are capable of operating and retaining the trust of investors.

If it is meme tokens then no one has the assurance or no one could guarantee that these coins will again break price ceilings given that there are no utility for these crypto. Its market price is solely dependent with market manipulation of huge investors or whales. During bullrun most of the tokens’ price are pumping but determining how high will newly released coins’ price be able to reach would be harder to assume unlike with Bitcoin and other long existing coins which are having its previous ATH from the last bullish trend in this market. This is not to claim that those tokens will no longer be back to its highest market price but I guess it would have a harder time than most of the older cryptos.

Yes, I am not a fan of memes as well. You will be surprised to know that I was with Pepe from the beginning but never bought it. I did a press release for them at the beginning, but I never imagined this meme could reach this level. Otherwise, I would be a multimillionaire right now. So I don't like to risk with meme now, even though I haven't been trading doge for a long time when Elon started playing with it. I am interested in real development projects for those who really want to do something in the crypto industry. They gain sometimes, and we may be gainers of that as well.

What makes you think that these coins still have the potential to grow during the bull run when they have already had their run after their launch? I can say that ARB might manage to gain some value during the bull run because it is backed by a protocol hosting projects, but PEPE is just a meme coin, and the significant value that it achieved after the launch was all due to the hype that it got from the community and nothing else, so I doubt it will repeat the same thing.

So, if I was to make investments for the bull run and choose some altcoins for that, I would probably go with safer options like ETH and LTC, and maybe some other altcoins that I would find have enough potential to be able to gain significant value during the bull run instead of taking such risks.