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Title: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 08, 2023, 06:17:01 PM
I’ve never heard of Jake Paul’s opponent here if I’m honest. He has only fought once in the last 4 years so really, Paul should go into this as a big favourite.

https://i.ibb.co/9V0RR7y/F-a5-Yh4a-AAALc-FJ.jpg

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-next-fight-opponent-andre-august-b2443862.html



Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: OgNasty on November 08, 2023, 07:40:38 PM
Is this real? I haven’t heard anything about it, which would be odd for a Jake Paul fight. I’ve never heard of his opponent either. I guess maybe Jake is trying to get another win on his record. Pretty common for fighters to do that sort of thing on their way to a lot of wins, but Jake typically fights known people so this is a little out of character.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: ryzaadit on November 08, 2023, 07:57:13 PM
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People always hoping on boxing influencer win

Influencer boxer, is always challenged or fighting a fighter with a few years off from boxing. It's always like that, since the opponent not fighting in a few years and jake still young + has good stamina.

If you not hear it, I guess the stunt marketing is not started yet ~XD


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 08, 2023, 08:05:35 PM
Is this real? I haven’t heard anything about it, which would be odd for a Jake Paul fight. I’ve never heard of his opponent either. I guess maybe Jake is trying to get another win on his record. Pretty common for fighters to do that sort of thing on their way to a lot of wins, but Jake typically fights known people so this is a little out of character.

Pretty sure it’s official, buddy.

https://twitter.com/jakepaul/status/1722271624706306498


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 08, 2023, 08:09:00 PM
I'll save everyone's time, here is August boxrec:

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/651075

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/08/t590v.png

Obviously, he is not that active that's why we haven't heard anything from him and he is also age 35.

So I guess this is going to be an easy fight for Paul even though this dude is professional boxer and fought at Cruiser weight. And we will see how Jake Paul is going to hype this fight.
Although we have here the co-founder of their company already promoting this fight.  ;D

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"...He's [Paul] once again doing what very few of the best and biggest boxers in the world have done in their ninth professional fight --- fighting someone with a better record and experience.

https://www.si.com/fannation/mma/boxing/andre-august-jake-paul-next-fight


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: dothebeats on November 08, 2023, 08:25:40 PM
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People always hoping on boxing influencer win

Influencer boxer, is always challenged or fighting a fighter with a few years off from boxing. It's always like that, since the opponent not fighting in a few years and jake still young + has good stamina.

If you not hear it, I guess the stunt marketing is not started yet ~XD

Well, these influencer boxers are considered as amateurs, so it's normal that they will take on fighters that haven't fought for years to get that 'even' footing in the fight. To me, it doesn't sound so exciting, as I've never heard of the guy. Probably just Jake Paul and his team's marketing to keep the momentum on the Jake's side - striking the iron while it's hot.

This will probably have a mediocre viewership count. Only a handful of people has heard of the guy, and the public is slowly noticing that the Paul brothers are just challenging opponents that are way past their prime, or someone who hasn't even achieved it. They're just really that good in marketing fights that's why they're still profiting from it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: ryzaadit on November 08, 2023, 09:36:31 PM
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Not anymore.

Most of them already have a few fight, would be nice if they can fight active fighters not a fighter who already not fighting a few years. Just matching the total match of each other. That's would be really nice.

The good things about these influencer, they can really hype it up for the match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 09, 2023, 02:08:24 AM
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People always hoping on boxing influencer win

Influencer boxer, is always challenged or fighting a fighter with a few years off from boxing. It's always like that, since the opponent not fighting in a few years and jake still young + has good stamina.

If you not hear it, I guess the stunt marketing is not started yet ~XD

Well, these influencer boxers are considered as amateurs, so it's normal that they will take on fighters that haven't fought for years to get that 'even' footing in the fight. To me, it doesn't sound so exciting, as I've never heard of the guy. Probably just Jake Paul and his team's marketing to keep the momentum on the Jake's side - striking the iron while it's hot.

Probably, but it seems that Jake Paul are into boxing, I mean he is fighting professional boxers. They might not have a good record, but still if Jake doesn't have a good training, he could lose here as Andre August could still have the skills to overcome if Jake comes here flat and believed on the idea that he can just steamroll this boxers.

This will probably have a mediocre viewership count. Only a handful of people has heard of the guy, and the public is slowly noticing that the Paul brothers are just challenging opponents that are way past their prime, or someone who hasn't even achieved it. They're just really that good in marketing fights that's why they're still profiting from it.

Admit it or not, there are still fans that is willing to watch this kind of fights and that's why Jake Paul and his company are continuing to make this kind of fight. It doesn't make sense if they are into this business without making money. He put up his own company just to get everything legal in my opinion and as I have said, to generate income for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: bittraffic on November 09, 2023, 03:27:49 AM
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People always hoping on boxing influencer win

Influencer boxer, is always challenged or fighting a fighter with a few years off from boxing. It's always like that, since the opponent not fighting in a few years and jake still young + has good stamina.

If you not hear it, I guess the stunt marketing is not started yet ~XD

Well, these influencer boxers are considered as amateurs, so it's normal that they will take on fighters that haven't fought for years to get that 'even' footing in the fight. To me, it doesn't sound so exciting, as I've never heard of the guy. Probably just Jake Paul and his team's marketing to keep the momentum on the Jake's side - striking the iron while it's hot.

Probably, but it seems that Jake Paul are into boxing, I mean he is fighting professional boxers. They might not have a good record, but still if Jake doesn't have a good training, he could lose here as Andre August could still have the skills to overcome if Jake comes here flat and believed on the idea that he can just steamroll this boxers.

This will probably have a mediocre viewership count. Only a handful of people has heard of the guy, and the public is slowly noticing that the Paul brothers are just challenging opponents that are way past their prime, or someone who hasn't even achieved it. They're just really that good in marketing fights that's why they're still profiting from it.

Admit it or not, there are still fans that is willing to watch this kind of fights and that's why Jake Paul and his company are continuing to make this kind of fight. It doesn't make sense if they are into this business without making money. He put up his own company just to get everything legal in my opinion and as I have said, to generate income for him.

Jake Paul's profile says American professional boxer and he should be ranked in an org like WBC or WBA but he isn't anywhere in any of the boxing organizations. He picks his own opponent either an old retired UFC fighter or an inactive boxer. He made a mistake fighting Tommy though so he wouldn't make such mistake from now on. The fact that it's his promotion and he pays for these guys to fight him, he should be winning.

Paul is making boxing a joke, no one ever heard of Andre August til he announced this fight. For all we know he just paid this guy in advance $50.000 to sleep whenever he do his signature move.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: yahoo62278 on November 09, 2023, 04:47:31 AM

Paul is making boxing a joke, no one ever heard of Andre August til he announced this fight. For all we know he just paid this guy in advance $50.000 to sleep whenever he do his signature move.
While I agree that both the Paul's are giving boxing a bad name, someone must be enjoying watching cause they do ok in the PPV market. It's really no different than McGregor and Mayweather, people found a way to get paid with some popular figures going at it. The only way it stops is if people stop paying for it, but thats not going to happen.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: OgNasty on November 09, 2023, 05:23:07 AM

Paul is making boxing a joke, no one ever heard of Andre August til he announced this fight. For all we know he just paid this guy in advance $50.000 to sleep whenever he do his signature move.
While I agree that both the Paul's are giving boxing a bad name, someone must be enjoying watching cause they do ok in the PPV market. It's really no different than McGregor and Mayweather, people found a way to get paid with some popular figures going at it. The only way it stops is if people stop paying for it, but thats not going to happen.

I don’t think Jake Paul is giving boxing a bad name. He’s putting in the work and matching up against better and better opponents. I won’t be surprised in another couple years when he gets a legitimate shot at a title.

I looked up his opponent as well. Dude seems like a legit boxer. While I’d prefer to see Jake beat up celebrities, you can’t hate on him for doing his best to have a legitimate professional boxing career.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: coin-investor on November 09, 2023, 05:55:22 AM
I cannot consider Andre a top-level fighter even if he has more wins and more knockouts than Jake Paul all his opponents are level C fighters and two of them just debuted and one of the fighters he KO   Jeremie Parks has this record 6 25 3, imagine this guy loss 25 times I don't think this Andre can be considered a Polish fighter than Jake Paul, Paul wants to take his boxing seriously but he's fighting level who he can easily beat.
If he wants the boxing community to take him seriously why not fight fighters who are in the top 15 so he can rank up if he beat these kinds of fighters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: yahoo62278 on November 09, 2023, 05:59:43 AM
I cannot consider Andre a top-level fighter even if he has more wins and more knockouts than Jake Paul all his opponents are level C fighters and two of them just debuted and one of the fighters he KO   Jeremie Parks has this record 6 25 3, imagine this guy loss 25 times I don't think this Andre can be considered a Polish fighter than Jake Paul, Paul wants to take his boxing seriously but he's fighting level who he can easily beat.
If he wants the boxing community to take him seriously why not fight fighters who are in the top 15 so he can rank up if he beat these kinds of fighters.
Exactly why I say he is giving boxing a bad name. He's not paying his dues and working his way up in the rankings. I'm not saying his fights aren't semi entertaining, I'm saying he is not going about it the right way. He shouldn't get any sort of title shot because of his celebrity and record against non ranked opponents.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: aioc on November 09, 2023, 07:36:08 AM

Paul is making boxing a joke, no one ever heard of Andre August til he announced this fight. For all we know he just paid this guy in advance $50.000 to sleep whenever he do his signature move.
While I agree that both the Paul's are giving boxing a bad name, someone must be enjoying watching cause they do ok in the PPV market. It's really no different than McGregor and Mayweather, people found a way to get paid with some popular figures going at it. The only way it stops is if people stop paying for it, but thats not going to happen.

I don’t think Jake Paul is giving boxing a bad name. He’s putting in the work and matching up against better and better opponents. I won’t be surprised in another couple years when he gets a legitimate shot at a title.

Robert Garcia the boxing trainer stated that you can have a lot of wins and a title shot if you have a good promoter and you pick your fights, you can have a title shot and that's possible with Jake Paul, after his loss against Fury he seems to cherry-pick fights now, he loses his momentum because of that loss and he cannot afford to have a second loss, Jake Paul will lose his reputation and his PPV appeals.

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I looked up his opponent as well. Dude seems like a legit boxer. While I’d prefer to see Jake beat up celebrities, you can’t hate on him for doing his best to have a legitimate professional boxing career.
He is a legit boxer but with bad records, not a record that is main event-worthy it's obvious who's going to win here, good pick for Jake Paul and a risky fight too if Andre pulls up an upset.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Kemarit on November 09, 2023, 11:00:37 AM

Paul is making boxing a joke, no one ever heard of Andre August til he announced this fight. For all we know he just paid this guy in advance $50.000 to sleep whenever he do his signature move.
While I agree that both the Paul's are giving boxing a bad name, someone must be enjoying watching cause they do ok in the PPV market. It's really no different than McGregor and Mayweather, people found a way to get paid with some popular figures going at it. The only way it stops is if people stop paying for it, but thats not going to happen.

I don’t think Jake Paul is giving boxing a bad name. He’s putting in the work and matching up against better and better opponents. I won’t be surprised in another couple years when he gets a legitimate shot at a title.

Robert Garcia the boxing trainer stated that you can have a lot of wins and a title shot if you have a good promoter and you pick your fights, you can have a title shot and that's possible with Jake Paul, after his loss against Fury he seems to cherry-pick fights now, he loses his momentum because of that loss and he cannot afford to have a second loss, Jake Paul will lose his reputation and his PPV appeals.

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I looked up his opponent as well. Dude seems like a legit boxer. While I’d prefer to see Jake beat up celebrities, you can’t hate on him for doing his best to have a legitimate professional boxing career.
He is a legit boxer but with bad records, not a record that is main event-worthy it's obvious who's going to win here, good pick for Jake Paul and a risky fight too if Andre pulls up an upset.

Not sure though if he has lost his PPV or popularity as he continue to make a lot of money even at that lost. So he still continue to look for boxers that he thinks he can beat, in this case a relatively unknown but has a lot of experience with the name of August. And so with his hype still very high, he needs to take advantage of his name and milk his "boxing fans" to buy his fights and then make millions.

And he is not a bad promoter as well, a savvy business man. So who knows after his career in exhibitions fights, maybe he can go professional someday. But for now, he is slowly getting into it, looking for a fight against a not so bad boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: yazher on November 09, 2023, 12:10:42 PM
Everyone big star wanted to have a fight just before the end of the year and December is the best date to make that happen. looks like this is not something to get excited about because we all know what the result would be. I don't think this will get him big revenue but judging for what he has already accomplished, that doesn't really matter. I don't think money is important this time for him and looks like he just want to further stretch his winning record.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 09, 2023, 06:37:08 PM
Early odds coming in via Odds Shark:

Paul 1.25
August 4.33

https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/jake-paul-vs-andre-august-odds-picks

Obviously things can change but like a few of us have alluded to, Jake Paul is a clear favourite.

 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: robelneo on November 09, 2023, 11:53:42 PM
I’ve never heard of Jake Paul’s opponent here if I’m honest. He has only fought once in the last 4 years so really, Paul should go into this as a big favourite.


https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-next-fight-opponent-andre-august-b2443862.html


The big question is why he is taking an easy opponent now,  against this guy he is sliding, Andre on a glance at its record may have a good one but checking on his opponents you can conclude the guy is better off as a sparring partner in a gym and make his living there.
I have a feeling that Jake Paul wants to taste victory via knockout he failed to do that on his past two opponents, so he needs who looks like a credible opponent who he can knock out cold so he'll be more attractive to the boxing community and get acceptance, its another PR publicity to continue his saga in the boxing industry which I think he is not pitted.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: TravelMug on November 10, 2023, 12:01:31 AM
I’ve never heard of Jake Paul’s opponent here if I’m honest. He has only fought once in the last 4 years so really, Paul should go into this as a big favourite.


https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-next-fight-opponent-andre-august-b2443862.html


The big question is why he is taking an easy opponent now,  against this guy he is sliding, Andre on a glance at its record may have a good one but checking on his opponents you can conclude the guy is better off as a sparring partner in a gym and make his living there.
I have a feeling that Jake Paul wants to taste victory via knockout he failed to do that on his past two opponents, so he needs who looks like a credible opponent who he can knock out cold so he'll be more attractive to the boxing community and get acceptance, its another PR publicity to continue his saga in the boxing industry which I think he is not pitted.

Most likely he wanted to win in his next fight, if he won by a knockout, that will be a plus for him, if not, then still a victory so he can still go and continue to chase his dream to fight a good boxer next and test his skills and maybe when the time comes, he will go professional.

There's even a report that the WBC will rank him (although we all know that this organization is the most corrupt of all boxing governing bodies),

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WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman says the winner of this Sunday’s Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury fight will receive a top 15 ranking at cruiserweight with their organization.

Mauricio says the winner will be ranked near the bottom of the WBC’s rankings at or near the 40 spots, and it’ll be up to them to try and climb upwards. To get a higher ranking, the Paul-Fury winner will need to do the following: 1. Be active 2. Fight WBC-ranked contenders 3. Records 4. Location of fights 5. Experts’ view

(https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/02/wbc-president-discusses-ranking-jake-paul-gives-reasons/)

However, when I check the rankings, either name is not on the top 15 lists.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Darker45 on November 10, 2023, 02:52:35 AM
Well, perhaps Jake Paul is indeed trying to become more of a real fighter than just an exhibition boxer. But, of course, while he's now choosing a real boxer this time around, he makes it sure that he's going to be an easy opponent. Hence, a smaller fighter, an old one as well, who is pretty much unknown in the boxing world with less experience, and who has just returned to the ring after some 3 years of inactivity. That's Andre August. But he's probably an improvement in Jake Paul's opponents.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Yamifoud on November 10, 2023, 04:58:13 AM
So, after Jake Paul's impressive performance against the popular sports personality Nate Diaz, he chooses to fight an unknown boxer? It doesn't make sense because if Jake Paul wants more money, he should at least look for a tougher opponent, someone decent that would get the fans' interest. What's his goal here? Is he just trying to boost his win record?

I think he should go for a rematch against Tommy Fury, the boxer who beat him via split decision. That would be more interesting than this reported fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: aioc on November 10, 2023, 04:28:41 PM
So, after Jake Paul's impressive performance against the popular sports personality Nate Diaz, he chooses to fight an unknown boxer? It doesn't make sense because if Jake Paul wants more money, he should at least look for a tougher opponent, someone decent that would get the fans' interest. What's his goal here? Is he just trying to boost his win record?
Obviously, that's the case since he is also the promoter he can pick any fighter just to inflate his records and preferably his knockout numbers this is a short plan for a long strategy, he is planning to have a World title fight and he wants to have a good number, so he picked this kind of opponent

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I think he should go for a rematch against Tommy Fury, the boxer who beat him via split decision. That would be more interesting than this reported fight.
He should do that but he is afraid to get beaten again if he gets beaten that would be the end of his career and his appeal in PPV he may opt for a rematch once he accumulates wins to make the second fight more attractive on PPV and he can only do that if he is in the winning trail.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: electronicash on November 10, 2023, 04:35:39 PM
So, after Jake Paul's impressive performance against the popular sports personality Nate Diaz, he chooses to fight an unknown boxer? It doesn't make sense because if Jake Paul wants more money, he should at least look for a tougher opponent, someone decent that would get the fans' interest. What's his goal here? Is he just trying to boost his win record?

I think he should go for a rematch against Tommy Fury, the boxer who beat him via split decision. That would be more interesting than this reported fight.

while a rematch with Tommy makes sense, Jake may not be prepared for it and Tommy just fought with KSI last month who also won.
if jake wants to fight someone who is popular i think he should fight a youtuber as well. but this won't add value to his record. he needs a real boxer but also someone that he knows has more than 50% rate of winning. he found one in the name of Andre August.

if there is one thing that Jake helped in combat sports is that Dana still signed Tony Ferguson in a UFC contract regardless of his age because Dana doesn't want him to fight Jake.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: coin-investor on November 10, 2023, 04:56:11 PM


if there is one thing that Jake helped in combat sports is that Dana still signed Tony Ferguson in a UFC contract regardless of his age because Dana doesn't want him to fight Jake.


That's likely going to happen, of course, Tony Ferguson if offered a good prize will likely take Jake's Paul offer, and it will be a scourged on Dana White because Jake Paul wants to accumulate UFC fighters to knock out and that's something Dana White avoid, but he can't stop that there will be former UFC champion who will take Paul's offer because prize money is bigger than what UFC is offering.

Dana has become a victim of his own game by paying his fighters less than what they should be taking they opted to fight fighters like Paul even if they lack the training and experience of a boxer and so far Jake Paul has zero losses against these UFC former champions.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Synchronice on November 10, 2023, 05:54:50 PM
An opponent with no name recognition? And Jake Paul against such an opponent? His marketing plans have probably changed. It looks like right now he choose a respectable opponent for his skill levels.
This match definitely financially benefits Andre August ten times more than Jake Paul and I bet he will be tougher opponent than Tommy Fury was. He decided to fight real boxers instead of celebrities, his plan is really very interesting, I wouldn't expect him fighting people with no name recognition. At least I was expecting someone more popular. It will really be a very interesting match. Jake Paul is the only Youtuber that I admit worth to watch, this guy is genuinely trying to become a boxer and build a career while wisely collects millions of dollars profits and donates to his non-profit boxing organization.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: OgNasty on November 10, 2023, 11:27:02 PM
I watched Jake Paul’s newest YouTube video and there was some mention by him that he’s not trying to secure paydays anymore and that’s why this opponent is who he is. He’s trying to fight pros with more experience so he can continue learning and moving towards a legitimate title fight. That explains why he’s fighting a guy who is currently employed as an Uber driver.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 10, 2023, 11:48:10 PM
I watched Jake Paul’s newest YouTube video and there was some mention by him that he’s not trying to secure paydays anymore and that’s why this opponent is who he is. He’s trying to fight pros with more experience so he can continue learning and moving towards a legitimate title fight. That explains why he’s fighting a guy who is currently employed as an Uber driver.
And that is what he is really saying all along even at the start of his exhibitions match career. He is a big guy and fighting at CW but it doesn't mean he can just go fight a pro boxer and steam roll on them and then governing bodies will give him a good rankings.

It's not that easy and looking at how he is late to chase his boxing dreams. But nevertheless, he is pursuing it so we have to gave it to him because not going to be an easy road. So slowly he is picking fighters like August, to really get as much experience as he can and maybe in the next fight he will be looking for a tougher opponent or at least a high tier boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 11, 2023, 03:39:44 AM
I watched Jake Paul’s newest YouTube video and there was some mention by him that he’s not trying to secure paydays anymore and that’s why this opponent is who he is. He’s trying to fight pros with more experience so he can continue learning and moving towards a legitimate title fight. That explains why he’s fighting a guy who is currently employed as an Uber driver.

Lol. You got me there with your serious opening. That's a funny one!

As funny as Jake Paul. But he must have his reasons for fighting against a nobody but has a longer professional record in boxing. At least he's fighting what everybody can consider as a real boxer even if he's just driving Uber outside his fights. At least when Jake Paul is defeated he could proudly say that's in the hands of a real boxer rather than a celebrity boxer like Tommy Fury.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: famososMuertos on November 11, 2023, 04:27:31 AM
Influencers and social networks decide their destiny in the musical field, not old businessmen.  For example.

In the equivalent, this Influencer is doing it in just 3 years, what takes even a boxer his entire life has taken this guy a couple of years.

We don't just see it with him, every time they want they organize an event and start fighting among themselves, with a record of in-person and online audiences that the organizers of traditional boxing events would like.

On the other hand, this guy continues in his show (creating content) and giving the opportunity to boxers who never in his life thought about having a fight like the one that is being organized.

However, it seems that in the short term it will not be possible for him to fight for a professional boxing title, but does he need it?

To this whole show we must add a "social-economic" nuance that the Pauls add, and rightly so in how boxers are treated in terms of their economic benefits.  Another story, but one that the Pauls handle well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on November 11, 2023, 06:31:03 AM
A 35 year old club fighter who has fought mostly guys with losing records is the type of opponent I would expect a young novice fighting 4 rounders would fight. Jake Paul has been a pro long enough that he should at least be fighting some fringe contenders. There are plenty of faded eastern european former champions with some name recognition that would be more suitable opponents.

They are trying to spin this in a positive way by saying that Canelo and Crawford fought guys with really poor records in their ninth fight but the comparison is ridiculous because those guys were very young, Canelo was only 16 in his ninth fight. Loma and Inoue already fought multiple world champions in their ninth fight but they don't make that comparison because it's obviously stupid.

Jake isn't trying to build a legitimate career. He is cherry picking an easy opponent with the hope of getting a highlight reel KO and perhaps people will be dumb enough to fall for this farce that it will convince them to throw $80 down the toilet next time he fights a has been UFC fighter on PPV.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: bittraffic on November 11, 2023, 03:12:59 PM
A 35 year old club fighter who has fought mostly guys with losing records is the type of opponent I would expect a young novice fighting 4 rounders would fight. Jake Paul has been a pro long enough that he should at least be fighting some fringe contenders. There are plenty of faded eastern european former champions with some name recognition that would be more suitable opponents.

They are trying to spin this in a positive way by saying that Canelo and Crawford fought guys with really poor records in their ninth fight but the comparison is ridiculous because those guys were very young, Canelo was only 16 in his ninth fight. Loma and Inoue already fought multiple world champions in their ninth fight but they don't make that comparison because it's obviously stupid.

Jake isn't trying to build a legitimate career. He is cherry picking an easy opponent with the hope of getting a highlight reel KO and perhaps people will be dumb enough to fall for this farce that it will convince them to throw $80 down the toilet next time he fights a has been UFC fighter on PPV.


No one said the work was supposed to be hard. Thats also a good point just to be fair to Jake. He was just enjoying his time at Disney when he was 16 while petting Selena and Ariana Grande.  But when it comes to making money with his fights, the guy is a genius and I suppose anyone could give it to him because even the big names are already coming forward following his steps.

He should be asking Pacman, that guy is legendary and very sportsman who will still be fighting as long as people watch. As old as he is though he is very quick still with his jabs. 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Slow death on November 13, 2023, 06:31:27 PM
I watched Jake Paul’s newest YouTube video and there was some mention by him that he’s not trying to secure paydays anymore and that’s why this opponent is who he is. He’s trying to fight pros with more experience so he can continue learning and moving towards a legitimate title fight. That explains why he’s fighting a guy who is currently employed as an Uber driver.

It seems to me that this will be a fight in which Andre August, who is not yet very well known, will become very well known in the event of a victory, which is why I see Andre August coming much more motivated to win this fight so that his name gains a lot attention, while on Jack's side he is seeking attention in the sense that he can be a boxer capable of facing other professional boxers. he should look for stronger and more popular guys and beat them if he wants to be known as a very strong boxer.



I thought bookmakers would add this fight so people can place bets and but I look at the stakes and I didn't see this fight listed, from what I can see bookmakers don't want to get involved with fights that don't show signs of seriousness, fights in which the fighters don't take themselves very seriously. but bookmakers keep adding friendly football games and we all know that in friendly football games, team coaches don't put their best players on most of the time, but even so, bookmakers put these games on so that people can bet on them.

That's why I don't understand why this fight isn't added to the stake, could it be that other bookmakers have added this fight so that people can place bets? And is anyone here going to place a bet on this fight and who are they going to bet on? I won't make any bets, but I'm more inclined to think that Andre August can come out victorious in this fight. he seems to me to have a chance of winning


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Kemarit on November 13, 2023, 09:29:04 PM
A 35 year old club fighter who has fought mostly guys with losing records is the type of opponent I would expect a young novice fighting 4 rounders would fight. Jake Paul has been a pro long enough that he should at least be fighting some fringe contenders. There are plenty of faded eastern european former champions with some name recognition that would be more suitable opponents.

They are trying to spin this in a positive way by saying that Canelo and Crawford fought guys with really poor records in their ninth fight but the comparison is ridiculous because those guys were very young, Canelo was only 16 in his ninth fight. Loma and Inoue already fought multiple world champions in their ninth fight but they don't make that comparison because it's obviously stupid.

Jake isn't trying to build a legitimate career. He is cherry picking an easy opponent with the hope of getting a highlight reel KO and perhaps people will be dumb enough to fall for this farce that it will convince them to throw $80 down the toilet next time he fights a has been UFC fighter on PPV.

No one said the work was supposed to be hard. Thats also a good point just to be fair to Jake. He was just enjoying his time at Disney when he was 16 while petting Selena and Ariana Grande.  But when it comes to making money with his fights, the guy is a genius and I suppose anyone could give it to him because even the big names are already coming forward following his steps.

That's one thing with Jake Paul though, he has come a long way, and I do agree that he is somewhat of a genius. This idea of exhibition matches just pop on his mind and then he takes advantage of his social media status and then his fight is really a money earner for him. And then he established a company to make it more legit and so it's easy to manage the fights and obviously the profits.

He should be asking Pacman, that guy is legendary and very sportsman who will still be fighting as long as people watch. As old as he is though he is very quick still with his jabs. 

Manny though is small for him, during Pacman's prime, he fight at 147 lbs and as high as 154 lbs. Although if I remember it correctly, he even didn't make that super welter weight when he fought Margarito. Jake Paul is Cruiserweight, so that's around 190 lbs. Unless they will fought on a catchweight, but for sure Jake Paul will be drain on that fight and so even if Manny has retired already, he will have a good chance to knock him out.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on November 14, 2023, 03:26:08 AM
I thought bookmakers would add this fight so people can place bets and but I look at the stakes and I didn't see this fight listed, from what I can see bookmakers don't want to get involved with fights that don't show signs of seriousness, fights in which the fighters don't take themselves very seriously. but bookmakers keep adding friendly football games and we all know that in friendly football games, team coaches don't put their best players on most of the time, but even so, bookmakers put these games on so that people can bet on them.

That's why I don't understand why this fight isn't added to the stake, could it be that other bookmakers have added this fight so that people can place bets? And is anyone here going to place a bet on this fight and who are they going to bet on? I won't make any bets, but I'm more inclined to think that Andre August can come out victorious in this fight. he seems to me to have a chance of winning

I'm sure the fight will be listed on sportsbooks eventually. There are plenty of low level fights you can bet on so there is no reason to exclude this one. I won't be betting on this fight but I consider it easy money if you're picking Jake Paul. His opponent is an Uber driver. Oftentimes, the terms "cab driver" and "Uber driver" are used as slang terms for fighters of low quality but Jake Paul's opponent is a literal full-time Uber driver. It's as obvious of a cherry pick as you are going to see. The odds will likely be very wide in Jake's favor, that's why I don't find it an attractive bet.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: pinggoki on November 14, 2023, 04:15:42 AM
Is this real? I haven’t heard anything about it, which would be odd for a Jake Paul fight. I’ve never heard of his opponent either. I guess maybe Jake is trying to get another win on his record. Pretty common for fighters to do that sort of thing on their way to a lot of wins, but Jake typically fights known people so this is a little out of character.
I was gonna say you probably haven't heard of this fight because you're not following him on his social media accounts but I've checked his YouTube channel and there's no videos posted about it which is weird given how bombastic and loud Jake Paul is, Jake's doing what Floyd Mayweather do but in a simpler way, Floyd fights great fighters on their twilight years and I think that's how they differ because Jake Paul don't seem to have any plans doing that anytime soon and boxing right now is a corrupt organization so it's easy to pick fighters that you can defeat if you've got the money for bribery.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on December 05, 2023, 07:55:37 PM
Updated odds on Sportsbet:

Paul 1.15
August 4.96

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/paul-jake-v-august-andre-6555e41f0a6c9500018762fa

As expected most punters are backing Paul who is also promoting the fight.
I have seen videos of August in training and I’m not very impressed, he looks slow and lacking power.

Paul might make it an early night if he chooses, could be lights out for August early on. I will wait for the over-under to come out before making a prediction.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on December 12, 2023, 04:21:46 PM
It’s nearly fight night now, as expected Jake Paul is a big favourite. He’s 1.16 @ sportsbet.io - https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/paul-jake-v-august-andre-6555e41f0a6c9500018762fa

The press conference is tomorrow and the fight is December 15th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX0UrYOiHc0




Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: OgNasty on December 12, 2023, 07:01:45 PM
A couple days out from this fight and I’ve seen almost no promotion for it. Surely this can’t be good for Jake’s career unless we see another spectacular knockout. Only reason I remembered this fight was even happening was that Jake Paul is on social media today saying he’s a bigger name in fighting than Conor McGregor, which is delusional.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Baofeng on December 13, 2023, 11:05:18 PM
A couple days out from this fight and I’ve seen almost no promotion for it. Surely this can’t be good for Jake’s career unless we see another spectacular knockout. Only reason I remembered this fight was even happening was that Jake Paul is on social media today saying he’s a bigger name in fighting than Conor McGregor, which is delusional.

It's probably because this is not a PPV, that's why almost no promotion on this fight. Although DAZN will be the exclusive platform for US and some countries and the Sky channel in United Kingdom.

And based on the odds, Paul is going to win this fight. What's interesting is that after this fight, who will be his next opponent?

This is just a tune up fight for him, maybe rematch with Tom Furry for bigger money.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: robelneo on December 13, 2023, 11:39:44 PM


And based on the odds, Paul is going to win this fight. What's interesting is that after this fight, who will be his next opponent?

This is just a tune up fight for him, maybe rematch with Tom Furry for bigger money.


When you have a name in boxing and you lose, you usually cherry-pick a fight to get you back in contention and this is what Jake is doing now but unfortunately against an opponent who has no chance of beating and definitely will suffer a knockout, so Jake Paul can shout out and call out Tommy Fury for a rematch, this is too easy to analyze, it's a business decision to fight a very weak opponent to show how strong he still is.
This is a predictable fight on who will win but I still want to know what round Jake will knock out Andre and how he will deliver the knockout.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: OgNasty on December 14, 2023, 12:56:21 AM
A couple days out from this fight and I’ve seen almost no promotion for it. Surely this can’t be good for Jake’s career unless we see another spectacular knockout. Only reason I remembered this fight was even happening was that Jake Paul is on social media today saying he’s a bigger name in fighting than Conor McGregor, which is delusional.

It's probably because this is not a PPV, that's why almost no promotion on this fight. Although DAZN will be the exclusive platform for US and some countries and the Sky channel in United Kingdom.

And based on the odds, Paul is going to win this fight. What's interesting is that after this fight, who will be his next opponent?

This is just a tune up fight for him, maybe rematch with Tom Furry for bigger money.

I don’t think he’ll get another shot at Fury. KSI posted on social media today that Jake has fallen off given his event isn’t even sold out so KSI will not be fighting him in the future. Jake is about to pivot from fighting social media people to fighting real boxers, so I think this fight will be the norm going forward for a while.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 14, 2023, 03:56:57 AM
I haven't heard of Andre August also, but I took a little research of this man's background and he is indeed a boxer, although pretty much unknown in the boxing world. Although he has only fought once in the last 4 years, he was fighting against somebody who was undefeated. The catch though is that even if Brandon Martin was undefeated, he only had a very limited experience and he wasn't really fighting high-caliber fighters.

Jake Paul's desire to become a serious boxer might backfire on his fights' popularity and revenue.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on December 14, 2023, 05:18:14 AM
A couple days out from this fight and I’ve seen almost no promotion for it. Surely this can’t be good for Jake’s career unless we see another spectacular knockout. Only reason I remembered this fight was even happening was that Jake Paul is on social media today saying he’s a bigger name in fighting than Conor McGregor, which is delusional.

This fight is right in between Ryan Garcia's comeback fight and the PPV event is Saudia Arabia featuring Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder. A YouTuber vs. an Uber driver is a hard sell so DAZN is rightfully treating it like some small event on a weekday. This is the equivalent to one of those indie shows that air on UFC Fight Pass. It would be ridiculous to try and hype it up as some really big deal just because Jake Paul is involved.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: NotATether on December 14, 2023, 08:17:00 AM
Oftentimes, the terms "cab driver" and "Uber driver" are used as slang terms for fighters of low quality but Jake Paul's opponent is a literal full-time Uber driver. It's as obvious of a cherry pick as you are going to see. The odds will likely be very wide in Jake's favor, that's why I don't find it an attractive bet.

To be honest, I'd rather watch a cab driver fight an Uber driver than this snooze-fest (literally).

A couple days out from this fight and I’ve seen almost no promotion for it. Surely this can’t be good for Jake’s career unless we see another spectacular knockout. Only reason I remembered this fight was even happening was that Jake Paul is on social media today saying he’s a bigger name in fighting than Conor McGregor, which is delusional.

Meme fighters don't need promotions, they just promote themselves by being memes. ;)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Saisher on December 14, 2023, 09:23:39 AM


Jake Paul's desire to become a serious boxer might backfire on his fights' popularity and revenue.

It will backfire in case Andre after many years of inactivity pulls off a good performance, like what Ngannou did to Tyson Fury, so Jake should not let this thing happen, Andre is a fall guy here, and preparation for better fights for real boxers for Jake, so Jake should make sure that he dispose of Andre as quickly as possible to erase the Tommy Fury loss.
Jake just needs to get into a win, so he picks a fighter that many think will have no chance at all, talking about cherry pick fights I consider this as one of the easiest fights on Jake Paul since he knocked out those MMA fighters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: btc_angela on December 14, 2023, 09:29:24 AM
I haven't heard of Andre August also, but I took a little research of this man's background and he is indeed a boxer, although pretty much unknown in the boxing world. Although he has only fought once in the last 4 years, he was fighting against somebody who was undefeated. The catch though is that even if Brandon Martin was undefeated, he only had a very limited experience and he wasn't really fighting high-caliber fighters.

Jake Paul's desire to become a serious boxer might backfire on his fights' popularity and revenue.

Yes, his opponent is unknown, he is probably taking an easy route right now and most likely just want to just be active in boxing. Maybe in his next fight, he will pick someone that is going to be a good opponent for him.

I doubt though that it will backfire on him, he is still very famous and influential, and even if he is fighting unknown fighters, he can still generate a lot of revenue and money for him and his company. But being a serious boxer and turning pro might be very different and not sure if he can make it to the pro ranks specially at the division that he is in right now.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 15, 2023, 02:02:20 PM
Jake Paul's desire to become a serious boxer might backfire on his fights' popularity and revenue.

It will backfire in case Andre after many years of inactivity pulls off a good performance, like what Ngannou did to Tyson Fury, so Jake should not let this thing happen, Andre is a fall guy here, and preparation for better fights for real boxers for Jake, so Jake should make sure that he dispose of Andre as quickly as possible to erase the Tommy Fury loss.
Jake just needs to get into a win, so he picks a fighter that many think will have no chance at all, talking about cherry pick fights I consider this as one of the easiest fights on Jake Paul since he knocked out those MMA fighters.

Don't worry. Nothing wrong will happen to this match. This is Jake Paul's game. Andre is nothing but a cab driver paid by Jake Paul. This man won't bite the hand that feeds him. The fact alone that of the thousands of cab drivers the popular celebrity Jake Paul has chosen him means he's blessed. He will be paid with a juicy amount. That's enough. If he wins against Jake Paul, he will be seriously reprimanded secretly because his role is to lose. Lol. Aside from that, his win doesn't mean he is building up his career. He only defeated a Youtuber. So he better stick to his role and he might receive a bonus. Lol.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: TopTort777 on December 15, 2023, 02:49:46 PM
Surprisingly this topic is dead. Previously Jake fights heated up a lot of discussion. This time imho Jake has failed with choosing an opponent. Not because Andre August is good, but because his media is nothing. Nobody knows who Andre August is, while Jake whole boxing career is build on PPV sales. How much it usually cost to watch Jake Paul fight live ? 30-50 bucks ? This time this fight is on 9,99/month subscription :D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Jating on December 15, 2023, 08:41:53 PM
Surprisingly this topic is dead. Previously Jake fights heated up a lot of discussion. This time imho Jake has failed with choosing an opponent. Not because Andre August is good, but because his media is nothing. Nobody knows who Andre August is, while Jake whole boxing career is build on PPV sales. How much it usually cost to watch Jake Paul fight live ? 30-50 bucks ? This time this fight is on 9,99/month subscription :D

Well they have the weigh-in already, and surprisingly, Jake Paul weight almost 200-lbs for this fight. And so this is a career high for him, he used to weight around 170k'ish in the beginning and in the last fight he was 185-lbs.

Is he targeting the HW division now since it's one of the hottest when Ngannou entered the pro ranks?

But I do agree that his opponent Andre August is not very known in the boxing circles that's why there are no hype and this will really hurt Jake Paul fighting bums and August is just here to show up and get paid by Jake.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: OgNasty on December 16, 2023, 04:19:55 AM
You gotta give props to Jake Paul when they’re due. He knocked that Andre dude out in the first round with a wicked uppercut. Even the clip made it seem like there wasn’t much hype in the building but you have to consider this mission accomplished if you’re Jake Paul. A brutal knockout on a real boxer… That’s what people said he couldn’t do…


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on December 16, 2023, 05:06:10 AM
You gotta give props to Jake Paul when they’re due. He knocked that Andre dude out in the first round with a wicked uppercut. Even the clip made it seem like there wasn’t much hype in the building but you have to consider this mission accomplished if you’re Jake Paul. A brutal knockout on a real boxer… That’s what people said he couldn’t do…

Jake Paul continues his reputation as a bum crusher. There is no surprise whatsoever that this fight ended in the first round. Jake accomplished the same result against Andre August as did Eric Abraham, who currently holds a 7-16 record. If that's what someone considers a "real" boxer then their standards are incredibly low. Andre August is a real boxer in the same way that a benchwarmer on the worst WNBA team is a real basketball player.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: mirakal on December 16, 2023, 07:34:53 AM
You gotta give props to Jake Paul when they’re due. He knocked that Andre dude out in the first round with a wicked uppercut. Even the clip made it seem like there wasn’t much hype in the building but you have to consider this mission accomplished if you’re Jake Paul. A brutal knockout on a real boxer… That’s what people said he couldn’t do…

That was a legit KO, and a good win for him.

However, August ain't really at par with the boxing skills of Jake Paul as bookies knows Jake Paul gonna win the fight.
As for the betting odds, you can tell that the winner was the heavy favorite.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/jake-paul-vs-andre-august-fight-card-odds-date-start-time-how-to-watch-location-rumors-complete-guide/

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Jake Paul -600   Andre August +430

Maybe it's time for a rematch against Fury was Paul that time when he lose via SD was a slight underdog, maybe if he could beat Fury in a rematch, we can tell that he really has improve a lot as a boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Yaunfitda on December 16, 2023, 07:47:56 AM
You gotta give props to Jake Paul when they’re due. He knocked that Andre dude out in the first round with a wicked uppercut. Even the clip made it seem like there wasn’t much hype in the building but you have to consider this mission accomplished if you’re Jake Paul. A brutal knockout on a real boxer… That’s what people said he couldn’t do…
Yes, and probably this is not a fixed fight, I mean that KO is wicked, so we should give props to Jake Paul. However, August could be a consider as a pro boxer, but still though, his records are questionable. I think it takes more to really be recognized by boxing fans to be a real boxing. Nevertheless, if we look a this weight, he could be a CW and up in the pro ranks.

And it's true as per the odds, Jake even a non-pro is a huge favorite, so they know something, or at least the odd makers think that it's going to be a mismatch and that's what we see. For sure, Jake will look for another "pro-boxer" in his next fight and be the next victim so that his hype is going to continue.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: robelneo on December 16, 2023, 10:50:09 AM
You gotta give props to Jake Paul when they’re due. He knocked that Andre dude out in the first round with a wicked uppercut. Even the clip made it seem like there wasn’t much hype in the building but you have to consider this mission accomplished if you’re Jake Paul. A brutal knockout on a real boxer… That’s what people said he couldn’t do…

Jake Paul continues his reputation as a bum crusher. There is no surprise whatsoever that this fight ended in the first round. Jake accomplished the same result against Andre August as did Eric Abraham, who currently holds a 7-16 record. If that's what someone considers a "real" boxer then their standards are incredibly low. Andre August is a real boxer in the same way that a benchwarmer on the worst WNBA team is a real basketball player.

This is way too easy for Jake Paul, and everybody expected this to happen, Andre cannot put up a decent defense all Jake has to do is find an opening and create a timing to unload that heavy punch, in this case, a right uppercut, it's an epic mismatch I don't think Jake Paul should be proud at all for a match that many thinks is predictable, there's report that Carl Froch wants to face him who is ten years retired but we still need a confirmation on this.
I hope Jake Paul stops cherry-picking his fight if he wants to be a boxing contender fight a real contender so he can rank up, The boxing community wants a real fight, not a show.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Hypnosis00 on December 16, 2023, 11:46:45 AM

Maybe it's time for a rematch against Fury was Paul that time when he lose via SD was a slight underdog, maybe if he could beat Fury in a rematch, we can tell that he really has improve a lot as a boxer.

I guess Fury would love for a rematch as he knows how much money the fight will bring to them. However, can Jake Paul agree with that considering he's been winning recently with easy fights. After the Tommy Fury Split decision loss, he had 2 straight wins (including the recent fight), first was UD and 2nd was KO, fans should be hyped with how Jake Paul perform, so it'll gain more attention if Paul would choose a fighter that has a good boxing skills like Fury if the latter can't be possible to be his opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Saisher on December 16, 2023, 01:26:45 PM

Maybe it's time for a rematch against Fury was Paul that time when he lose via SD was a slight underdog, maybe if he could beat Fury in a rematch, we can tell that he really has improve a lot as a boxer.

I guess Fury would love for a rematch as he knows how much money the fight will bring to them. However, can Jake Paul agree with that considering he's been winning recently with easy fights. After the Tommy Fury Split decision loss, he had 2 straight wins (including the recent fight), first was UD and 2nd was KO, fans should be hyped with how Jake Paul perform, so it'll gain more attention if Paul would choose a fighter that has a good boxing skills like Fury if the latter can't be possible to be his opponent.

Jake's next fight should be challenging, if not people will lose interest in his coming fights, a rematch with Fury is interesting enough just to get even and to make him eligible as a contender in the cruiserweight division, or if not for Fury someone popular in the Cruiserweight division or not necessary in the Cruiserweight but nearest it that could pull Jake's attractions in boxing and PPV sales again, if he keeps doing this, like this fight against Andre in a short period he will lose his appeal and people's interest, right now there's a lot of criticism on this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Slow death on December 16, 2023, 01:35:16 PM
I didn't watch the full fight but I watched the replay of the fight, in my opinion Jake Paul was very good in this fight, he constantly put pressure on Andre August and managed to do well in the attack, his punches seemed to me to be very effective from the beginning of the fight which in my opinion caused damage to Andre August every time he was hit and until Jake Paul threw the punch, it was funny how Jake Paul celebrated when he landed that punch on Andre August and then Andre August fell, that showed how Jake Paul is more evolved in boxi, I believe that many people who had doubts regarding his victories and his ability to go far in boxi, at this point they should have stopped having those doubts

For me, Jake Paul could start to be seen as a professional fighter, he should start doing professional fights, he has the potential to go far in this sport, of course there are many good professional fighters who are in a very low category and who could be strong opponents for Jake Paul, but we will only know how far Jake Paul can reach if he starts fighting against professional boxers who are at a low level of classification and every time Jake Paul manages to win then we can start to estimate how far he can reach . Anyway, congratulations to Jake Paul, it was a deserved victory


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: btc_angela on December 16, 2023, 02:05:09 PM

Maybe it's time for a rematch against Fury was Paul that time when he lose via SD was a slight underdog, maybe if he could beat Fury in a rematch, we can tell that he really has improve a lot as a boxer.

I guess Fury would love for a rematch as he knows how much money the fight will bring to them. However, can Jake Paul agree with that considering he's been winning recently with easy fights. After the Tommy Fury Split decision loss, he had 2 straight wins (including the recent fight), first was UD and 2nd was KO, fans should be hyped with how Jake Paul perform, so it'll gain more attention if Paul would choose a fighter that has a good boxing skills like Fury if the latter can't be possible to be his opponent.

Yes, I think that will be the goal of Jake Paul, to rematch Tommy Fury as he lost that fight. And yeah, for sure it's going to produce good money again just like their first fight. I would just imagine the promotion though, specially with John Fury again, hyping his son's fight and obviously Tommy mouth as well running.

So I guess this is the fans wanted for Jake Paul.

As for this fight, we all now what's the result are, it's that we didn't expect that this is going to be easy for Jake.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Sanitough on December 16, 2023, 02:15:06 PM

Maybe it's time for a rematch against Fury was Paul that time when he lose via SD was a slight underdog, maybe if he could beat Fury in a rematch, we can tell that he really has improve a lot as a boxer.

I guess Fury would love for a rematch as he knows how much money the fight will bring to them. However, can Jake Paul agree with that considering he's been winning recently with easy fights. After the Tommy Fury Split decision loss, he had 2 straight wins (including the recent fight), first was UD and 2nd was KO, fans should be hyped with how Jake Paul perform, so it'll gain more attention if Paul would choose a fighter that has a good boxing skills like Fury if the latter can't be possible to be his opponent.

Yes, I think that will be the goal of Jake Paul, to rematch Tommy Fury as he lost that fight. And yeah, for sure it's going to produce good money again just like their first fight. I would just imagine the promotion though, specially with John Fury again, hyping his son's fight and obviously Tommy mouth as well running.

So I guess this is the fans wanted for Jake Paul.

As for this fight, we all now what's the result are, it's that we didn't expect that this is going to be easy for Jake.

And most especially if the fight will end up Jake Paul being the winner. For sure this will be an automatic trilogy, and again, another huge money will be coming. I think they should work on this as both has been active after their fought, so they are on their prime and the fans would really appreciate if they'll bring a fight that people would not think it's another cherry picking strategy by a fighter.

The first one was close, it was a split decision, so I think Jake Paul will be more motivated and probably more confident than the last time they met.

Not much pressure from Jake Paul now since he's not undefeated anymore, so I like to bet on him if that fight will be materialize.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: coin-investor on December 16, 2023, 03:12:20 PM
I didn't watch the full fight but I watched the replay of the fight, in my opinion Jake Paul was very good in this fight, he constantly put pressure on Andre August and managed to do well in the attack, his punches seemed to me to be very effective from the beginning of the fight which in my opinion caused damage to Andre August every time he was hit and until Jake Paul threw the punch, it was funny how Jake Paul celebrated when he landed that punch on Andre August and then Andre August fell, that showed how Jake Paul is more evolved in boxi, I believe that many people who had doubts regarding his victories and his ability to go far in boxi, at this point they should have stopped having those doubts


I didn't expect anything unexpected in this fight I did not even bother to watch and just waited for the news and watched for the highlights, there's no resistance on Andre, it is pretty obvious that Andre is not the kind of fighter who deserves to be in the ring against a power puncher like Jake Paul.

I don't want to praise a fight or a fighter where there is a mismatch, we are all aware that Jake Paul is going to knock out his opponent if there is another fight like this for Jake Paul maybe I just ignore the thread because it a useless topic, he should go for someone who is his match people are paying to watch, writers are taking effort to write and the network is spending money to telecast, Jake owes the community to show something different in his next fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 17, 2023, 04:18:38 AM
It's probably a good thing especially for boxing itself that there is almost no discussion happening even a day after this match ended in a brutal knockout. I've noticed just a handful of posts, cannot even fill a single page.

You gotta give props to Jake Paul when they’re due. He knocked that Andre dude out in the first round with a wicked uppercut. Even the clip made it seem like there wasn’t much hype in the building but you have to consider this mission accomplished if you’re Jake Paul. A brutal knockout on a real boxer… That’s what people said he couldn’t do…

Props indeed to Paul for winning the fight in the first round. Not special though. Who is Andre August by the way? A real boxer? A cab driver who sometimes do fights? Yes, Jake Paul can knock out so many professional boxers. He just have to choose carefully.

Now a Youtuber is finally a real boxer because he's defeated a real boxer who looked more like a Youtuber than the Youtuber himself. Lol.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Distinctin on December 17, 2023, 04:56:18 AM
Props indeed to Paul for winning the fight in the first round. Not special though.
People doesn't care beccause in the first place this fight does not gain hyped compared to his previous fights.
Probably people got fed up already with him cherry picking his opponents just for them to look good and win easy fights, and this happened as expected.

Who is Andre August by the way? A real boxer? A cab driver who sometimes do fights? Yes, Jake Paul can knock out so many professional boxers. He just have to choose carefully.

Now a Youtuber is finally a real boxer because he's defeated a real boxer who looked more like a Youtuber than the Youtuber himself. Lol.

Not a very popular fighter but had a good record prior to this fight.

As you can see in https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/651075, he had 10 wins and 5 of that came from KO, while only have 1 lose, (2 now).
if we would judge on his reccord, we can expect he could give a youtuber a fight but Jake Paul's talent as a boxer was underrated.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 17, 2023, 05:10:05 AM
Props indeed to Paul for winning the fight in the first round. Not special though.
People doesn't care beccause in the first place this fight does not gain hyped compared to his previous fights.
Probably people got fed up already with him cherry picking his opponents just for them to look good and win easy fights, and this happened as expected.

And this last one isn't any different. It remains a cherry-picked opponent. Perhaps the only difference is that in the past Jake Paul used to cherry-picked those who are old yet popular, those who are worthless inside the boxing ring but have solid names and have a huge following. Now it's a cherry-picked opponent who hasn't proven anything yet. It's hard to tell whether the choice is becoming better or worse.

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Who is Andre August by the way? A real boxer? A cab driver who sometimes do fights? Yes, Jake Paul can knock out so many professional boxers. He just have to choose carefully.

Now a Youtuber is finally a real boxer because he's defeated a real boxer who looked more like a Youtuber than the Youtuber himself. Lol.

Not a very popular fighter but had a good record prior to this fight.

As you can see in https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/651075, he had 10 wins and 5 of that came from KO, while only have 1 lose, (2 now).
if we would judge on his reccord, we can expect he could give a youtuber a fight but Jake Paul's talent as a boxer was underrated.

Record isn't anything in boxing. I've watched many fights involving boxers who have perfect records but don't seem to know what to do inside the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: stadus on December 17, 2023, 05:54:56 AM
Props indeed to Paul for winning the fight in the first round. Not special though.
People doesn't care beccause in the first place this fight does not gain hyped compared to his previous fights.
Probably people got fed up already with him cherry picking his opponents just for them to look good and win easy fights, and this happened as expected.

And this last one isn't any different. It remains a cherry-picked opponent. Perhaps the only difference is that in the past Jake Paul used to cherry-picked those who are old yet popular, those who are worthless inside the boxing ring but have solid names and have a huge following. Now it's a cherry-picked opponent who hasn't proven anything yet. It's hard to tell whether the choice is becoming better or worse.


We can tell based on how much that fight has generated in terms of revenue, and since it's not a popular fight, it was probably the the fight with very few earnings compared to his past fights. With that if true, I think he would try to find a worthy opponnent next time, a fighter that could bring up some hype and that he could also be confident to beat, so it's a win-win for him padding his record and increasing his earnings.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on December 17, 2023, 07:58:18 PM
Jake Paul made light work of this fight, easy KO in the 1st round.

He’s targeting a World Title according to Sky Sports - https://www.skysports.com/amp/boxing/news/12040/13031495/jake-paul-sets-sights-on-world-title-after-first-round-knockout-victory-over-andre-august-in-florida


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: BitcoinPanther on December 17, 2023, 09:19:44 PM
Props indeed to Paul for winning the fight in the first round. Not special though.
People doesn't care beccause in the first place this fight does not gain hyped compared to his previous fights.
Probably people got fed up already with him cherry picking his opponents just for them to look good and win easy fights, and this happened as expected.

And this last one isn't any different. It remains a cherry-picked opponent. Perhaps the only difference is that in the past Jake Paul used to cherry-picked those who are old yet popular, those who are worthless inside the boxing ring but have solid names and have a huge following. Now it's a cherry-picked opponent who hasn't proven anything yet. It's hard to tell whether the choice is becoming better or worse.

At least he is trying to pick boxer of his age than picking opponent that were already worn out due to old age.  It is normal for Jake Paul to pick boxer who are yet to have proven themselves since Jake Paul is still labeled as beginner as a professional boxer.

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Record isn't anything in boxing. I've watched many fights involving boxers who have perfect records but don't seem to know what to do inside the ring.

Well, I agree, there are boxers who have a good promoter and a manager.  Almost many unbeaten boxers have their manager match them to boxers that is way lower than the boxer's ability.   This is also a reason why we seldom see dream fights to occur rarely.  Just for example, how many years does it takes for Spence and Crawford match to happen?  As much as possible any unbeaten boxers' manager will try to avoid hard matches that they think they have little chance of winning.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on December 18, 2023, 05:55:26 AM
Jake Paul made light work of this fight, easy KO in the 1st round.

He’s targeting a World Title according to Sky Sports - https://www.skysports.com/amp/boxing/news/12040/13031495/jake-paul-sets-sights-on-world-title-after-first-round-knockout-victory-over-andre-august-in-florida

He's done nothing to deserve a world title fight. This fight was apparently sanctioned by the WBA, who awarded him with a medal after his win. These organizations are so scummy and corrupt that they just might let him skip to the front of the line just so they can get their percentage from his purse. Both, the WBA and WBC, recently started recognizing the bridgerweight division. This division would be the easiest path for Jake to become a paper champion since the weight class has no credible contenders, just a few washed up cruiserweights and small heavyweights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: TopTort777 on December 18, 2023, 10:49:32 AM
Jake Paul made light work of this fight, easy KO in the 1st round.

He’s targeting a World Title according to Sky Sports - https://www.skysports.com/amp/boxing/news/12040/13031495/jake-paul-sets-sights-on-world-title-after-first-round-knockout-victory-over-andre-august-in-florida

I can only wish him good luck. They guy wants to trick the system, and began his path to world title without amateur career. Instead he has chosen to fight professional and build rating. So far he is doing good. People here dont understand, that to be able to fight champions, first they must go through tens and tens of scalps. Where they see bumps, punching bags, retired opponents, I see Jake is earning money and building his path up. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383 so far he is very far from the top. The real deal gonna start when he will start facing someone from top 100. Right now he is having an amateur career but fights against professionals.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Sanitough on December 18, 2023, 10:54:32 AM
Jake Paul made light work of this fight, easy KO in the 1st round.

He’s targeting a World Title according to Sky Sports - https://www.skysports.com/amp/boxing/news/12040/13031495/jake-paul-sets-sights-on-world-title-after-first-round-knockout-victory-over-andre-august-in-florida

I can only wish him good luck. They guy wants to trick the system, and began his path to world title without amateur career. Instead he has chosen to fight professional and build rating. So far he is doing good. People here dont understand, that to be able to fight champions, first they must go through tens and tens of scalps. Where they see bumps, punching bags, retired opponents, I see Jake is earning money and building his path up. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383 so far he is very far from the top. The real deal gonna start when he will start facing someone from top 100. Right now he is having an amateur career but fights against professionals.

He is not really into professional sports or wants to become a champion. Jake Paul is just being smart, using his influence in social media to match with his interest in boxing, and boom! easy money.

As per my research, here's what he made already in boxing, but I think it's probably under reported.

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Jake Paul career earnings
Per SportsZion, Paul took home $1.2 million for his fight against Nate Robinson, and, per MMA Junkie, $2 million in his first fight against Tyron Woodley in 2021. Per Total Sportal, Paul made $1.5 million against MMA legend Anderson Silva.

Via Sports Zion, Paul made roughly $3.2 million for the Tommy Fury bout and that was before he received a 65% share of the PPV upside. The YouTuber claimed he made $30 million from that bout alone.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/jake-paul-net-worth-purse-history-career-earnings-youtube-boxing/htcxfgjhd7mmshflxcjguvlx

He is still on his prime, he's good in selecting his opponents to improve his ranking, most likely that millions he already earned will significantly increase overtime.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Kemarit on December 18, 2023, 11:26:23 AM
Jake Paul made light work of this fight, easy KO in the 1st round.

He’s targeting a World Title according to Sky Sports - https://www.skysports.com/amp/boxing/news/12040/13031495/jake-paul-sets-sights-on-world-title-after-first-round-knockout-victory-over-andre-august-in-florida

He's done nothing to deserve a world title fight. This fight was apparently sanctioned by the WBA, who awarded him with a medal after his win. These organizations are so scummy and corrupt that they just might let him skip to the front of the line just so they can get their percentage from his purse. Both, the WBA and WBC, recently started recognizing the bridgerweight division. This division would be the easiest path for Jake to become a paper champion since the weight class has no credible contenders, just a few washed up cruiserweights and small heavyweights.

Of course, he doesn't deserved a shot at a world title, but as you have said, money talks in boxing right now as it is a business. And this corrupt organizations are more willing to get paid. So Paul can either be on that division, CW, Bridgeweight or even HW. But it could be the same exhibition fights, although he might fight boxers who are not in the top 10 so it will be easier path for him.

And as long as there was fans willing to watch this hype job, it will continue. And Jake has established a business model that he is making millions in every fight. And I do agree that he is like tricking or hacking the system to become a champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: yazher on December 18, 2023, 01:50:12 PM
Jake Paul made light work of this fight, easy KO in the 1st round.

He’s targeting a World Title according to Sky Sports - https://www.skysports.com/amp/boxing/news/12040/13031495/jake-paul-sets-sights-on-world-title-after-first-round-knockout-victory-over-andre-august-in-florida

It ends up quickly because they might cook a crucial strategy for his next fight because this is a chance to prove himself to fight a better fighter next time and this is a sign that he is really improving and can go for a challenging opponent if he really wants to. I don't think he will sell more fights against some unknown boxers a retired MMA fighter or a nobody like this one. But as long as they are getting much more profits from his fight, I don't think they change their way anytime soon.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Dave1 on December 18, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
Jake Paul made light work of this fight, easy KO in the 1st round.

He’s targeting a World Title according to Sky Sports - https://www.skysports.com/amp/boxing/news/12040/13031495/jake-paul-sets-sights-on-world-title-after-first-round-knockout-victory-over-andre-august-in-florida

It ends up quickly because they might cook a crucial strategy for his next fight because this is a chance to prove himself to fight a better fighter next time and this is a sign that he is really improving and can go for a challenging opponent if he really wants to. I don't think he will sell more fights against some unknown boxers a retired MMA fighter or a nobody like this one. But as long as they are getting much more profits from his fight, I don't think they change their way anytime soon.

It's really hard to proved though that August did that in this fight. On the contrary, if media found out that this is just a setup for Jake and August was a fall guy then it will hurt his "reputation" as he wanted to build something that will push him to become a professional boxer and a world champion.

Let Jake rematch Fury though if he wanted to shoot two birds with one stone again. Fight a so called pro-boxer and then get the fans hype again and make more money. That formula has been proven already. And also we know that the storyline is that Paul will have his revenge.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: Kemarit on December 19, 2023, 09:32:45 AM
Yes, there's one name that pops up and that is Viddal Riley.

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Social media star Jake Paul is open to the possibility of having a future fight with Viddal Riley.

Last Friday, Paul (8-1, 5 KOs) returned to the ring and knocked out professional boxer Andre August in the first round with a vicious uppercut.

Riley (10-0, 6 KOs), who holds the English title and competes at cruiserweight, helped train KSI for his boxing matches. He also has a strong social media presence.

https://www.boxingscene.com/jake-paul-open-idea-future-fight-with-viddal-riley--180104

So this guy is a pro and campaigns at CW, I think this weight class is good for Paul though, he can easily make this weight. Not sure who Riley though as it's obvious he is a local British champion. But let's see if this is the fighter that Paul wants as he slowly into fighting pro fighters to boost his record and maybe one day become a champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Andre August - December 15th in Florida
Post by: TopTort777 on December 19, 2023, 10:51:57 AM
Strange how people want Jake to fight top boxers from the start, and laugh at his ambition to become a champion day. He has to start with something. He cant just call a champion and instantly get a title fight. People probably never heard of contracts, rating and etc. They want him to face a no-name in first fight, and expect his next opponent to be Smith or Opetaia as next opponent. Of course he make lots of noise, get a lot of attention. He is a media guy after all, that is the way he earns and sells. If he wound not do that, no one would fight him or promote him.

I just dont understand why so many laugh at him. I used to laugh also, but after watching how much time he spend training, how many people he motivated to train boxing. It does not matter if he wont become a champ, or makes it for money also. Looks how much interest to boxing he has brought.