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I just recently explored the bet builder feature of the sportsbook I'm currently using, and I find it interesting as you can have more bets combine in just one game which is impossible on parlay bets. So I'd like to hear your thoughts regarding this, is it also profitable or just a waste of money?

It is as simple as the higher the accumulation the higher the money that you can make but the lower the chances of winning the accumulated bet. I have always prefer to go for just single game instead. Although if the lower the money you will use for it, you can try it out yourself and have the experience yourself.

Sounds to me just like a parlay bet, do you have to win all the bets that you're combining on the bet builder tab or not? Because that's how you can win in parlay bets right? By correctly predicting all the right events or wins in a game. Probably the only difference of parlay and this one is that bet builder is just for one game, so if you're betting on a low odds team, you can maximize your wins by adding other predictions and to me, it's a pretty risky thing to do especially if you add who's going to score the most or who gets the first score.

This feature is actually great, better than parlay, I guess.

With the bet builder, you don't have to study a lot of games on the board to be part of your leg to increase the odds, as you can get everything in just one game. Though it's quite limited compared to parlay, I think it's easier to win with the bet builder compared to parlay. But if you are serious about your betting, go with a single bet most of the time; this bet builder could only be good if you like to experience extra fun.

I'd say it's harder than parlay bets because you're guessing two or more of your predictions in one match, I prefer to place one bet that has higher risk e.g. over 5.5, heavy underdog etc than picking two conditions.

If you're looking to hit big odds in one match, why not guessing the match score.

Not in my personal experience, though. I find it easier to win than a parlay. In one game, if you know your team well — for example, a high-scoring team — when they win, that means they are dictating the game. This suggests the game will likely end up over or their total score will be over. So, the bet would be TEAM + over, and the odds will only be based on whether you choose the spread or the moneyline.

Yeah! I'm 100% into parlay betting since it feels like winning a lottery to me eventhough I haven't hit any yet. I've been doing this for years now and none of my bet builders have been successful. Hitting a parlay or bet builder bet is tough because you're trying to predict the outcomes of multiple events. As you add more predictions it gets harder because all of them have to be right for you to win. Even if you're good at predicting one thing getting everything right in a parlay is a bigger challenge.

How do you factor I risk to reward ratio with single bet option? What has been your win rate? Do you consider it profitable on the long run? I do believe that gambling requires strategy thats why I use the bet builder and focus in winning one bet in at least ten bets and this covers all the losses and still keep me in good profits.

There are other factors I do consider too which I might not be able to detailed here. So far, it has been working for me and that's the most important thing.

No it is not a waste of money but it has only limited your chances of winning on the bet. If you have taken higher risk in a game or a particular game, that will increase the odd for you and increased odd means higher profit from the usual but you have lesser success rate if you had taken only one chance.

For example in a soccer match where you bet on goal/goal and over 3.5 , it means both sides must score a goal and the total goals must be above 3 goals. So you should get a score like 3-1, 2-2, 3-2 but where all above 3 goals was scored by only one of the teams, you will lose the bet. Therefore, if you have a result like 4-0, 5-0, 6-0 , you have lost the bet since the other side didn't get a goal because you predicted that both side must score and that the goals will be above 3 goals.

In the same light, if the goals were below 3 but shared between the teams, you still lost. Like if you have a score line of 1-1, 2-1, you also lost the bet .

There are so many examples that can be given with your enquiry. Like if you bet 1& ov 2.5 , 2& 2.5 etc, they are of two different bets in a game and they deserve increased odds and it limits your winning chances.

matching score also has a high chance of losing. It's fun to bet on these high odds though and very satisfying when you hit one. i have not won any of the parlays i made, it could be a waste of money like its said above but it's still fun.

winning methods is the easiest to guess especially in boxing when you know the puncher is a KO artist.  

Actually, Bet builder is really popular now because you can have a higher on winning this kind of bet type when the match goes on to your prediction.

Eg. is when you pick multiple bet on over score (over 2.5, 3.5 and so on) while the result of the game is high scoring. You can benefit on this if you knew that the game result will go according to your assumption unlike parlay that is based on multiple match meaning different variables. Bet builder is a one time big time tool which will give you more benefits if you properly analyze one game.

In my experience, it depends on the type of bet builder you're making, as it can be a money maker on certain days, or it'll be the one burning your bankroll. I'd say the feature is good enough because it offers an alternative way of getting better odds whenever i'm less interested in betting on a specific market. If I see a team that always wins and is bad at covering the spread, then I would go for their moneyline and pair it with a team total or another stat that the team can cover. It shouldn't be a waste of money if you research hard enough between the teams and players because bet builders also include player props.

The higher the accumulator the higher your chances of losing,  this is another multi-accumulator game which will increase the amount of winning and also have the highest possible risk of losing the bet, so for me,  if this feature is anything close to what I explain above and it have similar feature such as accumulator it becomes more risk for one to consider.

My recent losses through multiple game selections have taught me a lot of lessons that make me decide that, only use the Sigler game bet format for my sports bets.

Nope, Im a traditional gambler and I prefer to bet on a single match then yolo it if the bet won.
Even with 50%-50% chance its not easy for us to keep winning, and with bet builder the chance is lower than that.
Different story for the parlay bettor, they might like it.

I think everyone is gonna to say (yes)

They can maximize the odds they can get, especially on their favorite team. If my favorite team plays, I can use (the builder) feature. I can have more chance win because is my favourite team (I know more information about my favourite team rather than other team).

People love these, while they're betting on their favourite team.

This feature is profitable and at the same time carries high risks because even if one of your predictions goes wrong you will lose your money. A lot of sports bettors i see prefer this feature because with lesser amount of money you can win higher amounts. The difference with single bets is that you can stake as low as you want and the more games you accumulate the higher your potential win but for single bets you need to stake a reasonable amount in order to increase your winning except if maybe you go for bigger odds which usually is more risky and reduces your chances of winning.

I prefer to go for the multiple bet feature especially when I don’t have much money to stake but the risk is even higher than the single betting. The higher the risk the higher the win, but in my case i don’t accumulate too much games i only stick to at most 5 games per stake when i want to try the multiple betting feature.

I've tried 'em out myself, and stacking different bets together for one game takes things to the next level compared to old school parlays.  You've got so many more choices to customize your action and 

Now as far as profitability goes, that really comes down to having a plan.  With any kind of wager theres always a chance you crap out.  I've scored some sweet wins but also had my share of busts.

Well yes. The idea of betting small amount with the tendency of earning huge profit is already tempting. Problem is the difficulty of winning; bigger the odd build, greater the risk of losing. Best way is to lessen expectation with bet/odds ratio. Greed is a powerful factor which often yields to loss. There are just people betting a small amount with a 10 odds, some would make the kdds higher, still for the sake of earning more. I do bet still with bet builder in particular with Basketball related leagues.If you’re into risk then you might be attracted with this one aside from the kind of sports which would allow you to enjoy and embrace the risk of losing but hitting a jackpot if would be fortunate.

You've gotta go in knowing the risks.  But used wisely, bet builders can definitely up the fun factor on gameday.  I'll take excitement over boring old single bets anyday.  It keeps things fresh.

OP: BB?


New, it is not, it has been around for a while... in any case, its name says it by itself, it is having the ability to make a bet associated with your knowledge but extended in a diversity of parame, and it works for everyone (even fish)... but profitability requires sports knowledge (as always) I think it is too complex to be taken seriously (big bets) but it is very fun for those who are interested in entertainment.

the bet builder feature isn't that new it's been around for  sometime now and it's more entertaining and time managing than the single bet due to how you can combine many games in one bet. It's not a waste of money and it's profitable if you can produce good predictions that corresponds with the games results, meaning that the chances of you winning using accumulation/combined feature is very slim. The advantage is that you can win big amount of money using small amount like $100 to bet due to the accumulation.

I rarely use it as to win it means you have to get most of the different bets put into a single ticket,like one team to win,over 2.5 goals,both teams to score yes,both halves over 1.5 and all sort of those bets all in one,we know it is very difficult to hit many of these bets yet when we hit one of them of course the odd is minimum over 3 or even more so this type of bet is for someone who has a lot of money and is obsessed that at a certain game there will be goals,a team will win and both teams will score together with some other bet to add to it,most normal people are not that attracted to this,even when I stay copying other people bets I rarely find such bets available.

Just tried it for a couple of times but not happy with my outcome it always comes at a loss so I haven't tried again and just doing the single bet. I think it's profitable if you are good with it and not just a waste of money because there are people out there that seems to love it, it's not just for everyone who's into sports betting tbh.

I would also join the group of "traditional gamblers".
This type of betting, although it seems attractive, introduces an extra level of risk which I personally find useless since even if you play just one event in reality it's like playing "combinations".

a company I worked for, always said "keep it simple".I think it can be applied in this case too ;)

Been betting on bet builder since last year, and yeah, why not take advantage of it. Definitely it makes betting more interesting and interesting as you can combine player stats as well and see how good you are in making some predictions based on your analysis and of course the experience with those games, like in my case I have tried it in NBA games.

I don't think that it's a waste of money, and obviously, it's profitable if you are going to win. It might just make it harder as compare to just single bet with ML or any handicap. But as I have said, it will be a big test on your end on how good (or bad?) you are as far as being a sports bettor. So it's worth a try from time to time and so when you watch the game, it will be exciting to cheer for the player you have bet on.

Regardless of what resources this bet builder is providing, in my opinion if someone wants to have some chance of profit, even if we are talking about a small chance, then that person should make simple bets, normal bets are better options. when for example there is a La Liga game, Barcelona against Real Madrid and the odds are at 2.50 for both teams and the person analyzes the two teams and comes to the conclusion that it would be better to bet on Real Madrid and that person manages to get it right, then this person ends up with more than 2x profit, which means that this person will have money to bet on 2 more games, and even if they lose in one game they would still be making little profit, they would have to lose again to end up with a 50% loss.

By this I mean that the person should not keep placing bets with low odds, the person should not keep placing money on all the games so that they try their luck to see if they get most of the games right, the person should not make multibet bets . The person should focus on the game that has the highest odds and is easiest to predict the result. It is much better to bet on a game each week that is a game with odds above 2.00 and that is easy to predict the result and the person is right than losing money with multibet bets or bet builders and at the end of the day the entire bank goes in in bankruptcy

This is the only option I mostly use for betting, like I'm even starting to bet on others. Aside from the sportsbook, my betting has mostly been on sports, which allows me to select multiple games, and this gives me a higher chance of winning big with just a small wager since I'm allowed to bet on multiple games with different options that add the odds together and calculate my potential winning.
 
It's also gives one the advantage of having a cash out option for a very long game that you have predicted could have lasted for weeks or months, and if one of the sports games has started and it's in your favour, you can be allowed to withdraw the available cash out and still re-bet the other one. This is done when my confidence is not strong about the outcome of the game, so I have to take what I see first and try again with other ones.

Other gambling sites call it "Same Game Multi" in Stake.com others call it "Same Game Parlay". Just for information.

Same with parlays, it's risky. But you can win loads of amount if you know your game. Recently, I made one and I got one mistake only out of 7 players that I predicted with their points and rebounds in basketball. Some of them are just 1 point difference win while the last one where I made a mistake didn't even receive any rebounds where I needed 2 of them.
Here is the bet ticket for that.
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Like I said, if you know your game then it could really be profitable for you. If I didn't input that last bet there, it's still x26 and I regret that I did it because it was my greed talking to me to add one more and maximize the betbuilder.
Other gamblers do try to minimize the risk by just controlling it to the x3 - x4 range while others go way far down to just x1.5 - x2.00 but with a high chance to win the bet.

Bet builders are a good way to earn some extra money if you are confident enough on your predictions in a single game. If that is not the case, then a straight money line or a normal parlay will suffice.

I sometimes use bet builders whenever I know that my picks are good and I know that the game will easily run through just as I envision it. It adds thrill to the games, plus it wouldn't hurt earning a little extra. Most of the time though, I just chill and play money lines and watch without any worries whatsoever if I just want to get done with the game.

I also often use this method on Stake.com on some of my favorite sports bets, but I think it would be very risky even in many bets I only get one or two wins even in four betting options.
You bet on almost all the options available, of course the Odds can be very high and the risk of losing is even greater because if one bet loses everything will be in vain, plus sometimes bets like this really make us tempted by the Odds that can be obtained.

However, it all depends on the gamblers themselves whether they really know or have knowledge in each match to be able to determine what choices to bet on.
Usually people who dare to use this method are gamblers who have lot of experience and also have expertise in predicting each bet and really forget about risks because they have the confidence to win.

Using this at one of the bookies I usually bet on, it's quite an interesting feature and it's much better than parlay in my opinion, it's just that the chances of winning are greater when you have very good knowledge of the sport, and it has given me quite a well profit several times when I routinely did it in the NBA Finals last season, I bet regularly on one team and several players who performed consistently with good statistics, whereas when I tried it in football it wasn't so successful, perhaps because it is more difficult to predict the results, and this is a very interesting feature.

We have different answers here, and I like reading your replies so far.

@OP, may I suggest if you can add this question: 'Which is better, parlay or bet builder feature?'...

I personally like to know what people think, since this is quite new while parlay has been here even before. As for me, I like the bet builder feature, and I'm pretty much attracted to it due to better chance of winning.

I like this question more because there's a big difference there. Some may say that a parlay is easier than a bet builder but the time is your enemy because it may take the whole day to complete the parlay series. In bet builder, you only need to wait for the game to end and chances of cashing out midway are there which means profit if a gambler thinks he ain't going to hit it all.

It's true, adding more means adding more risk and that's why the multiplied profit also keeps on growing as it jumps from x2 to x4. Greed can sometimes influence our bet here as we try to maximize the multiplier by adding another bet.
It's a big mistake for me to add one more but greed is not something that could be controlled easily, I admit though it's a stupid thing that I did.

Knowledge about the game and some luck. Because in a betbuilder there will be times that one player will be off night especially the ones who are expected to score. A phenomenon that cannot be controlled, I know because I played and I've been there, wherever he shoots even at the closest range, it's like there's a lid on the rim. :)

I agree more with @Oshosondy opinion, it makes more sense and is easier to understand.
even if I often make multi or parlay bets, that just one part of my desire to try my luck at higher odds, but actually, if I want to get bigger chance of winning, I just choose to bet on a single bet without combining several teams that I have to choose with. smaller risk and with a better chance winning bets that I use.

I have never tried a feature like that, its just that I prefer what I want to do without having to follow any trends from anyone and believe more in what I do myself.

I guess you should try it because it's a really good feature added by most sportsbooks now. I don't know when they added it, but I find it new, and personally, I'm enjoying it with my side bets. Not necessarily a big amount of money, but just a way to add more thrill. I'm just curious; it just sunk into my mind now. Is it also possible to parlay a bet builder bet? Has anyone tried it yet?

What difference does it make... It is just to accumulate your different individual wager in one bet and also add the builder odds. Although it will make your bet harder because to scale through all the games will be a difficult task than playing a single game. I will prefer to give my bet more chance to win but boosting it with reasonable higher odds.

Well its like creating your own sports betting mixtape where you get to pick and choose different elements for a single game and customize your bet. For me, it is more like enjoyable. Whether it's profitable or a bit of just a gamble loss depends on how well you know your stuff just tue usual losses. If you've got a good read on the teams and players, it can be a fun way to spice up your bets. But the more you add, the riskier it gets. So just play chill and smart. :)

Yeah bet builder is a good feature for someone who really understand and make a depth analysis to the match he want to bet. Sometimes I use it whenever I want to take a big risk, I'm not prefer to bet in parlay because when I've correctly guess all the matches and waiting the next one match, if I guess wrong then it's really make me emotional as I've wait the last match lol.

I guess it's automatic that our chance will decrease once we combine our bets, whether it's a parlay or a bet builder bet. But the kind of excitement is probably different, as we always have this instinct that convinces our mind that we have a good chance of winning because we were able to analyze our combinations. So, we don't actually mind the reality that we have lower chances, since our confidence is high. I think that's what we really need when we are gambling—a kind of being optimistic and embracing a positive outcome.

I'm huge on single bets nowadays but I like the idea of winning more from one game so I still do it from time to time. I usually just limit it to the total score and total assist of some players.

You can't have them all hehe. There's a reason why they created a separate parlay market for different games and for a single game. It would defeat the purpose if they allow such bets.

Since I have been gambling which is almost 10 years ago, I have been seeing bet builder, in a way you can put together many games. It is not new at all. I am just wondering that someone just know about it just now when I have used it before and with many losses. I can remember how I use it to stake and think I would win but all resulted to loss. I am not betting like that again when I know that it can cause more losses than to bet on a single match.

maybe after the international break I will try it in soccer betting and on my favorite site this feature actually already exists but I am just hesitant to try it because I myself prefer multi bets to take big risks with high odds but if later after I try the feature It works well and gives the same sensation as parlay betting maybe I will continue to use this feature.

and regarding making parlay bets on this feature, it seems that @Yogee has answered it because it is impossible to use parlay bets with this feature, it is definitely more profitable for gamblers

I just want to bump this thread as there's a new thread that came up which is something related to this. 

check this thread .Who says you can't be a millionaire in sports betting?
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475889.0)
There, you can see that a better won a x1000 odds on bet builder, I guess that makes this type of bet becomes more interesting to bettors now.

I guess parlay is still better as I'm seen lots of parlay winning bets bigger than what was shared but this is the first time I saw a bet builder bet with x1000 odds. That was a crazy win by the punter and i'm sure he'll have a more enjoyable holiday if he opt to cash it out and spend.

It is always fun to win a parlay and I have seem people winning a parlay of 10 or more combinations giving them a very nice cashout, but in the long end I think you will end up in loss (at least that was for me the case). I prefer just betting on singles with an odd of minimum 1.5

This always happens when people make multiple bet with a higher chance of winning, that bet is already locked but again the player have a choice if they make another bet with a different category so players still an option and there's nothing wrong with making a multiple bet as long as you aim for the wins and gain profit, of course multiple bet requires a designated budget could be you will place already a bet or wait for the return of your winnings for the other bet and make a wage again before the next category close their bets. Sports betting is all about knowledge of the sports it self so with this you can get a higher chance of winnings.

Any gambler that has used bet builder can surely give a positive review of their betting experience because there is no way you will use its various options and not enjoy your betting. This is like one of the features I look out for the most in most sportsbooks. I use it to create parlays with different bet types within the same game. I have used it to bet on events like red cards, woodwork hits, and to predict if a specific player will score and the timing too. And I have been lucky using it.

Same thing I was about to say, as I also/already saw lots of bigger odds than that on a parlay bet and it's surprising that some people can still hit it. Well, I guess it was mostly luck that helped them to do that other than their massive amount of skill, knowledge, and experience in the game.

With that winning the bet builder player gets, I'm sure that he would make a cashout even just some of the money that he won, as it was a lot already, though I think there is still an assurance that he will comeback and re-deposit again and maybe he can lose all of his winnings and more than that if greed got him, so I wouldn't say for now that he will have an enjoyable holidays.