Title: VAR Rules and gambling Post by: lothian on November 24, 2023, 08:22:48 PM Hey all, just looking for some advice really as I feel extremely hard done by with some recent VAR decision.
I was railing a football match and the score was 2-1. The second team then equalised to make it 2-2, and after this I dumped aload of money on the draw at odds of 2.05. A VAR intervention then happened and the goal was cancelled. The score was reset to 2-1 and the odds of the draw shot up to over 6.0. My bet however was not voided. Is this normal practice with crypto bookies? Should they have voided it? Should they have offered me the higher odds? Just looking for people's thoughts as I feel like i've been conned out of $1k usd here, and the casino in question is really not helping as they receive their sportsbook from a provider. Title: Re: VAR Rules and gambling Post by: alani123 on November 24, 2023, 08:32:08 PM So just to be clear, the final result of the match was 2 - 1, and you betting on a draw would have won if it was 2 - 2.
Why are you expecting the VAR decision to not count though? Bets are settled based on the final score. And if the league sets its final score based on VAR decisions, then there's little the bookie can do. You can't realistically expect a bookie to not settle a bet at all just because VAR was involved. That would make a lot of other bettors unhappy. Title: Re: VAR Rules and gambling Post by: lothian on November 24, 2023, 08:39:35 PM So just to be clear, the final result of the match was 2 - 1, and you betting on a draw would have won if it was 2 - 2. Why are you expecting the VAR decision to not count though? Bets are settled based on the final score. And if the league sets its final score based on VAR decisions, then there's little the bookie can do. You can't realistically expect a bookie to not settle a bet at all just because VAR was involved. That would make a lot of other bettors unhappy. So just to be clear, the final result of the match was 2 - 1, and you betting on a draw would have won if it was 2 - 2. Why are you expecting the VAR decision to not count though? Bets are settled based on the final score. And if the league sets its final score based on VAR decisions, then there's little the bookie can do. You can't realistically expect a bookie to not settle a bet at all just because VAR was involved. That would make a lot of other bettors unhappy. That's correct - but I placed my bet at the time when it was 2-2, at the odds of it being 2-2 at the time (which were 2.05). The goal was ruled out, so it wasn't actually 2-2, and so the odds then went up to 6.0. So my bet was placed on the assumption that the score would be 2-2, at the odds offered for 2-2. Instead, I was royally shafted. Other sites like 365 and betfair etc all void bets when a VAR decision overturns a goal. So thought I'd ask. Because you are taking the price at the time assuming it will be 2-2, only for it to be overturned and you now stuck with a bummy price. I'm also wondering if i'd placed a bet on the team winning, instead of the draw, if that would have been void! Title: Re: VAR Rules and gambling Post by: alani123 on November 24, 2023, 09:30:59 PM Outcomes being altered by VAR are often a point of contention in such cases. I've seen different takes on rules from several platforms to be honest.
I guess you will have to be more specific. See the rules of the specific platform you put your bet on, ask their support, and if you feel wronged either because they went directly against their own rules or because there was no specific mention, you can come here and create a scam accusation on the following board: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 Title: Re: VAR Rules and gambling Post by: 348Judah on November 24, 2023, 09:41:21 PM Hey all, just looking for some advice really as I feel extremely hard done by with some recent VAR decision. The use of VAR has made sport activities very easy o judge, because in this case not only the people were being the ony source to judge the situation, but the use of VAR will make a total replay on what ttamsp within the incident before the final judgement is being made, this was introduced because we sometimes doubt the judgement of the eye om a once time live chance, but when there's var, we have the assurance in fareness of the judgement being made. Title: Re: VAR Rules and gambling Post by: lothian on November 24, 2023, 09:49:03 PM Outcomes being altered by VAR are often a point of contention in such cases. I've seen different takes on rules from several platforms to be honest. Thanks - i definitely do feel wronged. They've said they are waiting for a full explanation from their sports provider, but the ts and cs do say that bets with the "wrong score" will be void. It could be argued that the wrong score was on my bet, as it clearly displays 2-2 on the betslip whereas the final score was 2-1.I guess you will have to be more specific. See the rules of the specific platform you put your bet on, ask their support, and if you feel wronged either because they went directly against their own rules or because there was no specific mention, you can come here and create a scam accusation on the following board: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 I've just never seen a bookie NOT void a bet in this instance, unless it's a case of "lets wait until the end and void the winners, but keep the losers". We will see when it goes the other way I guess, I'll be waiting for opportunities to pounce on when a goal is incorrectly given! Title: Re: VAR Rules and gambling Post by: rhomelmabini on November 24, 2023, 09:58:26 PM Have you ever tried to call the customer service of that particular casino you played with? I think they'll explain clearly to you what really happened here. I guess if it was a void bet it should have been just exactly you made the bet and not when minutes already passed as far as I can understand the issue.
Title: Re: VAR Rules and gambling Post by: Agbamoni on November 24, 2023, 10:22:09 PM So just to be clear, the final result of the match was 2 - 1, and you betting on a draw would have won if it was 2 - 2. You're right. I am assuming the match was already close to the end when he placed the bet and if so, the fact that the odds were 2.05 is enough reason to be suspicious of the situation of the game, another thing is live games are more volatile and more likely to go wrong because one is predicting a match based in the current situation which can change any time, and some matches can receive up to and sometimes more than 10mins of added time which is enough time for things to change in the game, unlike betting pregame which one is more likely to predict correctly because one can analyze based on current forms, injury forms and previous head2head meetings.Why are you expecting the VAR decision to not count though? Bets are settled based on the final score. And if the league sets its final score based on VAR decisions, then there's little the bookie can do. You can't realistically expect a bookie to not settle a bet at all just because VAR was involved. That would make a lot of other bettors unhappy. Staking such a huge amount is not advisable for live games, but can be beneficial in basketball games and not in football games. The booky knows this and expects you to be informed on the disadvantages of VAR in staking live games so they would not admit to any fault or void the game due to that. |