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Everything is somehow confusing. Was your account hacked or sold?

Tehnically, tg9 is the alt account of 98789 so you should log into your main account, tag the new one with neutral and then you can put the old back to rest if you wish and continue with new one from scratch.


Imho, you shoulnd't feel like you ranking up in the old system is somehow underserving and that you have to start from scratch. I mean, there are bunch of high ranking shiptosters now thanks to the old system but its pretty much obvious who are they, meaning they got stuck at their current rank, or still have similar amount of merit even 5 years since the introduction of merit.



From what I understand, neither. He just don't want to log in with the old one, for whatever reason.

Why cant you just go with your old account? If you forgot your password, you can reset it using your email address, if you no longer have access to your email address, you can change it in your profile settings.

I am assuming OP never wanted to be tagged for waking up from long period of inactivity. Maybe a random user could tag him alleging that he is posting in different boards or has a deteriorated English over the years. If this happens, no one will come to the aid of OP.

I can say that he is smartly reporting that he is the owner of 98789 and also he has a new account. If he is actually the owner of the old account, there's nothing wrong in using both accounts if he wishes.

Actually, no it isn't.

The known alts thread is for reporting alts that have been uncovered.

Where the scammers try to counter with FUD is using the myth that it (the thread) is to solely tag scammers.

The irony is you want people to tag your old UID but you don't want to report it to to the very people you are concerned will tag it.

Can you prove the old UID is yours so we're not just tagging someone so you can get off on the grief it would cause?

You have to prove that you used to be the owner of that account. Sign one of the old Bitcoin addresses used by the 98789 account. For example, 1PUXDiGXQygTs32iB9YwfnUadQhpuWGnq9 which is used here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1563072.msg15933036#msg15933036)

@tg9 Nice story, but without proving that you are the owner of the account, we cannot do anything. Can you prove ownership by showing any information that only those who can access that account know, for example, details of PM messages or a trusted person on the forum that you communicated with, or any Bitcoin address that you can sign a message from, or anything?

It appears that he lost access to his account and is now trying to prove that he has an old account or help restore that account.
I don't know if this is the Coinbase address he meant

Yep, that's the same address he said it was from Coinbase as its the only one that he mentioned in that "Stake your Bitcoin Address" thread.



With that beind said, he used some other addresses that he could use if he wants.

Well @tg9, if you really expect any of us to fully buy into the idea that this old account is actually yours, you're gonna need to cough up some solid proof first.  So simply telling us it's your account doesn't cut it and  you could say anything you want - that alone doesnt make it true.  Instead, how about logging into that old account and showing us you can still use it? That'd probably convince me! Or maybe sign a message using a Bitcoin address tied to the account? Or really, any sort of hard evidence that irrefutably links you to owning that old account would work.

Bottom line is we just can't take your word for it.  Not without some kind of verification to back up your claims.

I think the whole story of op is that he doesn't have access to his coinbase account where he used the wallet to stake his address here. Then again op is trying to make things too complex for him and if he still have access to account why not he continued using it than stirring cases which I think that is not necessary.
I tried checking through ninjastic.space (https://ninjastic.space/user/98789?addresses) noticed the said account has many interaction with multiple wallet. Alternatively he can another wallet he has access to then maybe during his active days.

I call this bullshit! Why does it matter if the account shows 'recently woken up' if you do not plan on using it anymore? And even if you do continue using it, that alone doesnt impact your reputation. Anyone can see from the post history that the account has been inactive for a long time. The same applies to changing the password. Also, why does waking up an account involve changing its password? Thats bullshit reasoning that has nothing to do with logic.



This is still unproven.


This is exactly the reason why this request of yours does not really make sense. What do you want DT members to tag your old account for, while also saying that reviving that account would be frowned upon by the community?

That's simply not true. If you don't do anything dodgy after waking up from a long break and and immediately changing email/password (for example asking non-collateral loan, writing in languages you never used before etc) then people might think that there is something dodgy going on, but other than that your account will be just fine with that "password/email has been changed recently" message.



If you are afraid of that, you could simply log in to the old account, stake new bitcoin address so you are sure in case hack happens and then continue with the new one.

Unfortunately you are eager to start a drama that you shouldn't be involved in. You don't have any problem tagging your alt account with your main account - but I really get major confusion about what your motives are behind all this. Regardless of what's behind it - I think you really need to prove your claims about the account is yours as other users have advice, so don't hesitate to do so.

If you are the primary owner of the @98789 account - then you should be able to defend yourself with that account even though some people may question your recent activity. However, many people don't care about this until some suspect you have been hacked or change hands if there is a significant difference in quality. There are lots of other users doing it - reset password via email, change email when you wake up, but it's fine if you can prove you're the primary owner in case someone starts to get suspicious.

The OP never made any attempt to contact me as the OP of the known alts thread (or anyone else for that matter) for guidance or assistance prior to starting this thread.

I've made a note (neutral) on both trust feedback pages and have Tildaed both users as this thread is just unfolding (for the OP at least) all wrong.

You should read up on the trust system in use here (such as it is), then weigh up if you kind of want to trust other people's post-it notes on your trust feedback page or kind of not trust those trust feedbacks.

This will be hard and I understand with your concern.

If you're only receive coins using your old address, this will not be a problem. But if you're participating a signature campaign, this will be a problem since they mostly ask native segwit address.

I think if you can tweet anything from your X account (tregaus4) and chat using your cryptogames account, this will give a good proof.

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However I wouldn't tag the 98789's account because it has been inactive for 7 years, it's their risk if someone want to make a trade with an account with long time break.

Exactly this; I also don't understand the OP's concerns. You're supposedly concerned about an old account that you're not going to use and want it to be tagged, without having provided the necessary proof that the account is under your ownership yet. Why is it such a big issue to have your account tagged as recently woken up? You can prove it's still in your possession by signing a message from one of the BTC addresses you've used in the past. I've been inactive twice and wasn't bothered by the wake-up tag. I had nothing to worry about and still have access to the address I used back in my first years of registration.

Since you're mentioning that you have access to those addresses, just go ahead and try recovering your account; resetting your password shouldn't worry you too much, although I understand that you wouldn't want a wake-up tag along with a reset password. I also acknowledge your concern with merit acquisition, but I'd consider yourself lucky that you're getting a 250 merit head start bonus and starting out as a Sr. Member rank. There are also two campaigns, which I'm not going to name, that are likely to accept you if you're interested in them, which will help you slowly build your account back. You won't be able to do that as a newbie. I've been in your place, and I was also an Sr. Member when I quit the forum. I started practically from scratch, having only acquired 2 merits when the system was introduced, and now I've managed to rank up to Hero Member with no particular issues and faster than I was expecting when I first started.

Prove ownership of the account through signed messages or whichever method works best, and keep using the account. If you're able to provide everything necessary, no one will ever accuse you of alt accounting, and even if someone does, the claims will be quickly dropped as you would have already proven yourself.

After a long period of inactivity, that would actually be normal. This is shady.



That's not true. You would only receive negative feedback (maybe) if you applied for a loan or started some drama (like you're doing now).


You're welcome. I get why you felt the need to say all that, but really it was just causing more drama than it was worth.  Your walls of text aren't really helping, either. At the end of the day, you had a simple fix available from the start - just log into your original profile and tag yourself if having that connection matters to you.  Or you could've gone a totally fresh route with a brand new profile, no mention of the old one.  But it seems like you were set on making some kind of weird power play to prove...  and well I don't even know what really.  And now you're acting all shocked that people arent just taking your word for it? I mean c'mon, we see people pulling stunts here all the time.

Actually it doesn't matter, if I were you then that would be the first thing I'd do without opening a new account and starting a topic as if everyone cares about me. After all you still have access to your old coinbase wallet, even if you can't prove ownership with that address, people won't question it if you reuse that address for your business on this forum.

You are overthinking all this.

Regarding the concensus you basically already have it as many members told you that nothing will happen if you wake up your old account, unless you start doing some dodgy stuff mentioned before. The more you continue this drama, the more people might get suspicious.

The long and somewhat distracting story is also confusing to me but I think he's indirectly claiming he owns the account to the forum moderators and other members. It is only possible to verify your bitcoin address account by signing your bitcoin address account, which you are not able to provide anymore, and the forum moderator is extremely strict about it.

I am not tagging anyone for anything without seeing some proof, and I don't really care who the member is.

All the reasons you mentioned sounds like bs to me.
Merit is not that important, even less important is what other people think about your account activity, unless you purchased an account.
You could easily change email address for original account, for this you would literally spend only few minutes.

Incorrect.

I am DT 1.

If you want to bury your head in the sand, then that is your failing.

Do more research.

If you dont share merit/trust between your accounts and if you don't join the same signature campaign/bounty campaign you will be fine even if someone finds you having alts.


Fyi you can answer multiple members in the same post, no need to make consecutive posts for each answer (that is also against forum rules).

Nice. you should have done that before opening this useless discussion. If you are afraid that you have left some personal information or anything compromising, I advise you to go through your post history and private messages now (you have access to the account) and delete everything that you think could be risky.
Now lock this topic, it has fulfilled its purpose.

Op has also deleted all posts they've ever made with this "new" uid, so no need to review the distrust I have in them.

Lol. User 98789 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=530806) is a Newbie again. OP forgot to remove the avatar.
What's with the dramatic responses when someone asks to prove what you say?

OP, fyi, I edited my trust, as I said I would. I must say, I'm not exactly thrilled that you jump to the rant station, mention names, and then delete everything before I have a chance to respond.

I'm sorry you're disappointed, but I'm not sure what you really expected to happen here.  As you could have noticed, only a few members were actually interested in this discussion and spent time reading through your walls of text. If nothing else, you should respect that.

From the very beginning, everyone advised you on what steps to take,  and that we can't just accept your word without valid evidence. Using accounts on other platforms can't be considered sufficient proof, and, as you mentioned yourself, those accounts can change names or be hacked and what not. In this community, the only acceptable proofs are either posting with your old account or signing a previously used wallet address. I'm sure you'd appreciate that if the situation were reversed, someone falsely claiming of being your alt account.

But you were persistent and ignored all the advice which ultimately led to your current frustration. Now that you've reactivated your old account, you'll see that none of the negative predictions will come to pass, no one will tag your account for no reason, which will prove you were wrong.