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Title: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: tjtonmoy on November 28, 2023, 06:55:13 PM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing. People are running out of options and opportunities. In this world the situation we are in right now, which one should you choose or have chosen? Both options have their pros and cons. I want to know from your experience, which one is better than the other. Are you satisfied with the path that you have chosen or do you have any regrets about it?

To explain it a bit more, inventing a job means doing something on your own and creating an opportunity for yourself. This could also include creating opportunities for others too. Those who invent their own jobs can design positions that are in line with their particular skills, interests, and values. This gives them a sense of fulfilment and autonomy that may not be available in traditional employment options.
But it brings risks. In order to create or invent a job, you need investment. Each and every investment comes with risks and this is no different.

Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

[NOTE: if this topic has been discussed before then let me know.]


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Adbitco on November 28, 2023, 08:47:04 PM
Inventing a job is just like being self employed or being a self CEO than working for another person, usually having a personal business pays more than working for someone because it's an indirect slavery why because the company doesn't pay you up to their 10 percent of the total revenue of the company and why would a reasonable go after working for company instead of building and inventing their own business. What makes most people go after finding job is that they don't have all it takes to invent a business it could be that they have chance or or they needs an urgent money to take fixed out some personal problems and family issues so these sets of people always finds it very hard to go start up a person business. I have actually came across similar topic just that this looks more of well coodinated than the previous I came cross if I am not mistaking.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: EL MOHA on November 28, 2023, 09:39:19 PM
I would say the best is certainly inventing a job that is you own this comes with total control and freedom. There are people that wants to practice their profession but the capital to actually invent it is too high and risky. As for me I would prefer both. I have a profession that I would love to practice and also have my own business. So both have an advantage but inventing one’s business is definitely more appealing to many people because of the freedom that comes with it


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on November 28, 2023, 09:58:41 PM
What you must know is that not everyone you can invent a new job and be good at it. Some persons are the job-seeking type of people.They do not have the potentials to be an employer of labor and if they were, they would be terrible at it. Haven't you heard of people who invented a job, close shop and went back to job hunting after a year or thereabouts because they could not cope with the demands of the invented job.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Rockstarguy on November 28, 2023, 10:12:06 PM
This days their are no jobs because of the economic challenge companies are folding up, government is unable to create jobs. I think we are in an era people don't need to expect job from government or any private sector, in this time civilisation and technology has made things to be very easy for people to create things from their head which  can generate money for survival.  Their are a lot of things that can  be done by individuals that can be a source of income. I think we are in a digital world now which people can make money from digital skills and we are in the time of networking that everyone run to the Internet, this days people do run their business on Internet which they make money. Just have a skill and be very perfect in it is the best job anyone can think of having.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Renampun on November 28, 2023, 10:15:51 PM
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So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

[NOTE: if this topic has been discussed before then let me know.]

I have done both (being an employee and starting my own business). To be honest, in my mind, working for another organization is much calmer than opening your own business, but the really exciting thing when we open our own business is that we find out that our abilities are not only As long as we work for other people, we can earn more money by opening our own business. Opening a business is never easy, so one way for us to remain consistent with the business we started is to continue learning and continue to be enthusiastic, rest assured, people who build a business from scratch, has the ability to survive better than those who only earn a monthly salary from working with other people.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: passwordnow on November 28, 2023, 10:18:27 PM
Inventing a job is like you're a businessman and you provide jobs for people or you're making employment for yourself. Like being a self employed or sole proprietor, you can have it on your own. I'm trying to be one someday but it's not that easy at all. I need foundations and capital as well unlike being emplyoed, you just have to apply and that's it.

Because being a business owner, you have to do all of the necessary things, permits, compliance, etc. You know all of those stuff and they're a lot of it. As you miss one, you'll be having some penalties that will teach you more on how to operate a business. Operating a business is like a music to our ears but the struggle is real on it.

It doesn't sound really an ideal thing when you are just starting out because it's not going to help you out when you have a weak heart. Most or I mean all of the successful businessmen now have gone through that hardship and it's not easy to start with. But once you are able to automate your system and business, your only job is to monitor your people.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: harapan on November 28, 2023, 10:44:53 PM
Inventing a job is just like being self employed or being a self CEO than working for another person, usually having a personal business pays more than working for someone because it's an indirect slavery why because the company doesn't pay you up to their 10 percent of the total revenue of the company and why would a reasonable go after working for company instead of building and inventing their own business. What makes most people go after finding job is that they don't have all it takes to invent a business it could be that they have chance or or they needs an urgent money to take fixed out some personal problems and family issues so these sets of people always finds it very hard to go start up a person business. I have actually came across similar topic just that this looks more of well coodinated than the previous I came cross if I am not mistaking.

People often generalize and make having a job seem like a very bad thing.
Do you know the amount of business that survive? Majority of businesses fail within the first 3 years. There are jobs that are not good job because of the pay, work environment, time and so on, but there  are also very good jobs. Take football players for example. They have employers, they work for a company, they're not paid up to 10% of what the company makes, but they're richer than most business people. There are also those that work a 9-5 job and are still better than business owners.

Maintaining a business is hard, so is working a 9-5. It's not everybody's dream. It may be your dream to have your own business, it may also be another person's dream to get a very good job in a very good company. It doesn't mean the person is not ambitious. He is ambitious in his own way, the same way you're ambitious in your own way. He wants to build a career while you want to build a business and that's fine.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: gunhell16 on November 28, 2023, 10:50:53 PM
developing a job falls under the category of wanting to establish a business or developing an opportunity business that you believe people in your community will be interested in rather than looking for a job to become an employee.

It's similar to how I got into the cryptocurrency company; it all started with curiosity about what crypto is, till I discovered it and realized it could help me with a financial problem solution. And I discovered how to obtain Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, and I'm still here today because I understand what it takes for most individuals to believe in this sector.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: franky1 on November 28, 2023, 11:07:58 PM
if there is no existing job matching your new thing, then it means no one realised they needed it before(else someone would have provided the solution already)

to invent a job is to:
create a problem that needs a solution, or
solve a problem that needs a solution but never had a solution before
a solution thats better than previous solution

trying to find unsolved problems or better solutions is difficult as most have found solutions already. but to invent a new niche/problem that then causes a new demand, thats twice as difficult

however we do see it happen
bitcoin started a new industry and needed a new skillset/knowledge base of people to expand the industries around bitcoin
bitcoin was not illegal/wrong/problem when it started, but the governments banned bitcoin in subtle shortterm ways or obvious longterm ways to then create a problem they could solve by offering permits and now they too are creating jobs to allow permits for businesses to operate with bitcoin

...
to create a new job  requires creating a new product/service/industry/problem-solution, which people didnt realise they needed before, until it presents itself

if you can provide that you can end up doing very very well providing "first mover" status of the new solution


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: hatshepsut93 on November 28, 2023, 11:32:13 PM
So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

Your question can't be answered in general because in reality it all depends on the concrete case. A well-paying and easy employment is far better than a low-paying and stressful self-employment, although it also heavily depends on the priorities of the individual ans some people might strongly prefer one type over the other. To put it short, whatever makes you the most happy is the best, there's no ideal case that suits everyone.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: joniboini on November 29, 2023, 12:43:49 AM
One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month.
One could argue that what you need to get a chance to be hired is your investment. Money to register for a new school, buy books to improve yourself, get a certificate, etc. But yeah, there is no direct investment required most of the time. Some jobs don't require a high skill ceiling, but the payment and competition are insane. Probably just enough to get by without saving anything every month.

Personally, I'm trying to fund a business since I have some spare money. Finding the right people is quite difficult tho, since I need to consider how trustworthy they are. I'm thinking of running a franchise on my own but my personality and health condition are not suitable to do it right now. Hopefully, I can improve it soon so I can dabble in some business here and there.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Darker45 on November 29, 2023, 12:57:14 AM
I don't quite understand how a simple man can invent a job on his own. He can start a business, yes. He can be a freelancer, yes, He can be a digital nomad, yes. But how can he invent a job? It's possible in a way because you could, for example, develop a new technology or discover something and hire somebody to become, say, a time machine operator. That's a new job, but it isn't available to the huge majority. The realistic option of almost everybody is to be employed, to be a businessman, to be self-employed.

I guess a better way of putting it is to develop new skills or earn new knowledge. In that way, you can come up with new stuff which you can sell or offer services that others may need. I used to enroll in a resin workshop myself because I thought of making resin products. So that's like inventing a new job myself, but not literally.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: blue Snow on November 29, 2023, 01:14:34 AM
So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?
I did both in the past, get a job and be invested in a job. I work in the company and open a small business at crowded place. I opened an avocado shake drink shop and managed by 1 employee. So, after work, I have to check how much income today in the shop and then begin to shift with my employees. But, it's hard to manage my time, because I have 2 jobs. sometimes I am back at midnight, and back to the company to work in the morning. so at that time I had to think, I had to leave something behind, because my salary on company was bigger than shake drink shop, then I left my own business and focus on my main jobs.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: franky1 on November 29, 2023, 01:19:39 AM
there are some schemers in communities

imagine you repair house guttering.. you put leaflets through peoples letterboxes on a tuesday. and tuesday night using a rope with a hook you throw it up to random peoples guttering and tug on it to break, bend or displace it.. then wait for the phone calls. or revisit them on a wednesday. knock on their door and make them aware of the split guttering and the leaflet you left them before.. and then give them an on the spot quote

imagine you are a car mechanic. a person just wants their tires changed. and while they are in the waiting room you undo the oil reservoir cap and let some oil out just to a point where it would soon trigger the oil light. you inform them that you can do a free oil check while they wait. and show them the oil is low, quoting them a oil service price

imagine you work in an office, you set up a process other NEW co-workers need to follow that takes an extra step. you note to the boss that productivity rate is 90% for the new recruits but you can get them to 100% in a week if he promotes you. you then give the new recruits the standard process and the boss sees the improvement immediately


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: cabron on November 29, 2023, 01:27:17 AM

So many jobs invented due to the internet, Vlogger seems a job for everyone which is probably a good option and all a person need is a good camera and some even just use the phone talking while walking in the park seems literally easy to do.

You just have to talk about the things you really understood well but hope to collect as many subscribers to make money. Seen a lot of them making a huge income for this which any one can do.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bettercrypto on November 29, 2023, 01:41:52 AM
Inventing a job is, in my opinion, part of a person's strategy to find a way to earn money. In this day and age, most people around the world use all strategies to earn money, including online jobs that you can earn even if you're at home, affiliate marketing, and so on.

Now if we search in the traditional way, this is where we will sell things that we think people will like, either food, perfume, toys, or others that we think we can make money from.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Oasisman on November 29, 2023, 02:39:48 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the term inventing your own job is no different than building your own business right? Or turning your passion into profit, or is it inventing your own product and sell it to the market? Well, this seems not an easy decision to make. You will need 2x or maybe 3x of your time to work on this, compared to when you're working for a company. You will also need dedication and perseverance to continue working even if you don't see much of a difference and meet your expected result in a certain period of time. So, this explains why there were only few people who followed this path.


Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month.

Not entirely true. Sometimes, it requires investment of personal asset for you to be able to compete with the on demand skills, knowledge, and expertise especially in the freelancing industry nowadays. So, you'll need to enroll yourself into a specific course for upskilling and with that, you'll also need to pay for that short course.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: knowngunman on November 29, 2023, 02:55:56 AM
So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

You already know that both has its advantages and disadvantages but I don't think there'll be anyone who will prefer to be a job hunter when they have opportunities to invent their own job. I will definitely go for inventing my own job if it's just about saying and done but no you must work hard to achieve that. By inventing your own job, you are totally independent with absolute freedom to do and undue. But it takes creativity, hard work, patience and of course a lot of money to invent a job which not everyone can succeed in it and that's why we have few job inventors with millions of job hunters around the globe. Being a job hunter comes with peace of mind because you worry less about prosperity and expenditures but there comes the tension of being fired at any time and all your dreams will seem unrealistic.

Inventing a job is, in my opinion, part of a person's strategy to find a way to earn money. In this day and age, most people around the world use all strategies to earn money, including online jobs that you can earn even if you're at home, affiliate marketing, and so on.

Now if we search in the traditional way, this is where we will sell things that we think people will like, either food, perfume, toys, or others that we think we can make money from.

In your first paragraph, those are not example of job invention mate. Affiliate marketing or any other sort of online business and job is not job invention unless you own the site where people are working and you earn your commission at the end of the day if not you are still a job hunter and the owner can close down the site at unexpected time. Setting up a business like you listed in the second paragraph may fit in the category of job invention but you need money to do that.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Hewlet on November 29, 2023, 03:36:34 AM
The decision to either become self employed which could lead you to creating a job or seeking for employment opportunity in an already existing firm is totally a contextual one and depends a whole lot on a number of factors ranging from experiencee level, age, financial strength and a whole lot of other variables. Creating a new job isn't an easy something that anybody can just decide to venture into and at the end of the day the person will just become successful at it. For you to even create jobs it's even best to have worked under an existing firm, see howw things are done, get some connection and then with time you should have known if you can successfully venture into setting up a firm or business that will require  you to employ the service of others.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: barisbilgili on November 29, 2023, 03:49:00 AM
I would say the best is certainly inventing a job that is you own this comes with total control and freedom. There are people that wants to practice their profession but the capital to actually invent it is too high and risky. As for me I would prefer both. I have a profession that I would love to practice and also have my own business. So both have an advantage but inventing one’s business is definitely more appealing to many people because of the freedom that comes with it
Creating a job will indeed be easier for those who already have expertise in the field they like and this will give us the freedom to do the job because we do it with rules that we have made ourselves so it will be easier for us to carry out it, very different If we work for a company we have to follow the rules that have been determined by that company and we cannot break them because we work for someone else, but for me, if I choose to work for someone else or want to start my own business, we have to carry it out with discipline in order to be able to do it. get satisfactory results, because if we don't carry it out well wherever we work then we won't be able to get good results.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: pinggoki on November 29, 2023, 04:20:36 AM
Let me tell you this though, there's 8 billion people in the world, if what you're trying to say is much easier, how are you exactly going to be able to invent jobs if everyone's doing it? Also, if you mean to create a business, I don't think that it's going to be for everyone to do that anyway because not everyone can be an entrepreneur and if I'm being honest, it's easier to find a job if you know where to look at, maybe it's not a job that you normally do or matches your degree but still a job is a job and there's a lot there that you can find, not everyone wants to be an entrepreneur anyway. Also if you mean inventing a job as in literally, then you will be needing a lot of money because you're planning to create something new and people aren't going to believe you at first so I don't think that inventing a job is going to be much easier.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Sebas.tian on November 29, 2023, 04:45:59 AM
Quote from: mvdheuvel1983
What you must know is that not everyone you can invent a new job and be good at it. Some persons are the job-seeking type of people.They do not have the potentials to be an employer of labor and if they were, they would be terrible at it. Haven't you heard of people who invented a job, close shop and went back to job hunting after a year or thereabouts because they could not cope with the demands of the invented job.

Don't forget that to invest in a job is not easy, and it require a huge amount of capital before you will be able to create a business that will help you to improve financially and materially if you have the skills to manage the business well. But if you don't have capital to start your own business, I think you can find a good job that will allow you to earn a huge amount of money from the organization either weekly or monthly to start saving some for future use . I prefer investing a Job, having your company will help you to avoid so many things in the land, and it will make you not to experience any challenge with Boss which is the major challenges many job seekers are going through in the world in the hands of their Boss.



Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 29, 2023, 04:53:29 AM
This is why for me ? it is always a Business that we have to create to follow your advise opening hob not only for us but for other people as well.

it doesn't need to be a large company but at least paying Minimum wages if not more than that, I have also established small business years back and now I am employing 2 neighbor  and planning to extend this to help more people in my community .
Am just waiting for the Bullrun so I may add more capital for my business and yes I am following that to invent jobs instead of looking for one.
not mentioning that nowadays there is a large demand in online service and product meaning this opened opportunity to many people to have House business and can generate income while taking care of their family.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: freedomgo on November 29, 2023, 04:58:02 AM
I think inventing a job is like creating a business that hasn't been established before; it's a challenging endeavor. However, if you possess the skills and talent, akin to Elon Musk or any other successful entrepreneur, you can always give it a try and see for yourself if you'll be successful. There's likely to be less competition once you become an entrepreneur rather than an employee, but not everyone is willing to pursue the business ideas they have in their minds. That's why the majority of people live from paycheck to paycheck.

Bear in mind that most financially successful individuals are business owners. Only a few have achieved financial success through traditional employment, and they often don't retire with financial freedom.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Fuso.hp on November 29, 2023, 04:58:22 AM
It is certainly true, it is better to plan to employ people under you rather than working under others. Working under another means mortgaging one's freedom to others and accepting a monthly salary by mortgaging one's freedom to others. When we have a workplace of our own we will be able to do our work as we wish and we will also create employment for some people. Less number of people think like this, most of the people think that they will complete their graduation and get a job but why don't they think that they will not get a job but create a workplace for people. First of all, one should give importance to his education, if there is no good financial support after completing graduation, then a person should try to create a workplace for himself, even if it is in addition to the job.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Jawhead999 on November 29, 2023, 05:02:35 AM
Entrepreneur: Quit your nine to five jobs and start a business, you only enrich your boss.
Employee: If I'm comfortable with my current jobs and get paid accordingly, why I need to quit? if every people become entrepreneur, who's gonna work for them?

If you can become entrepreneur and handle many people then congratulations because each person has it's own character or personality which you can't generalize if become entrepreneur is better than become employee.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bluebit25 on November 29, 2023, 05:55:00 AM
(...)So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?
Going back to the issue of starting a job a bit, I wonder if, in real life, anyone is placed in a certain job position without training.

Of course, creating a job the way the OP mentioned here is a perfect thing, but it requires skills, capital, social relationships,... a lot of different things to make the job work. So I think it's not too separate because work is a suitable adaptation to social change.

If someone is trying to learn and work in a job that already exists, and where they have all the opportunities to be their own boss, I think it's realistic to look at the problems the technology industry is having. Dynamically, many startups were born, and they also had to face many challenges to get good results.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Silberman on November 29, 2023, 06:25:30 AM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing. People are running out of options and opportunities. In this world the situation we are in right now, which one should you choose or have chosen? Both options have their pros and cons. I want to know from your experience, which one is better than the other. Are you satisfied with the path that you have chosen or do you have any regrets about it?

To explain it a bit more, inventing a job means doing something on your own and creating an opportunity for yourself. This could also include creating opportunities for others too. Those who invent their own jobs can design positions that are in line with their particular skills, interests, and values. This gives them a sense of fulfilment and autonomy that may not be available in traditional employment options.
But it brings risks. In order to create or invent a job, you need investment. Each and every investment comes with risks and this is no different.

Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?
No option is categorically better than the other, they are different and they have different strengths and weakness, however I really believe that early on you should just get a job as this is the path that requires less investment and risk on your part, but once you have accumulated enough experience, skills and hopefully a good amount of money then you need to think about becoming your own boss, because by becoming your own boss not only you cannot be fired, you will make more money per hour, since now you do not have a boss hoarding all the profits for themselves.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Dr.Osh on November 29, 2023, 07:03:38 AM
I think this depends on a person's condition. Almost everyone wants to build their own job so they can recruit people who need jobs. Unfortunately, this is usually limited by money. Because of this, many people prefer to find a job first to make money.
Personally, I am currently trying to create my own work. I have several businesses that can support my needs, so I try to expand them to increase my income, and try to create jobs for other people. However, it could be said that this path has greater risks, compared to people who already have jobs.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: flyingcarpet on November 29, 2023, 07:08:29 AM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing. People are running out of options and opportunities. In this world the situation we are in right now, which one should you choose or have chosen? Both options have their pros and cons. I want to know from your experience, which one is better than the other. Are you satisfied with the path that you have chosen or do you have any regrets about it?

To explain it a bit more, inventing a job means doing something on your own and creating an opportunity for yourself. This could also include creating opportunities for others too. Those who invent their own jobs can design positions that are in line with their particular skills, interests, and values. This gives them a sense of fulfilment and autonomy that may not be available in traditional employment options.
But it brings risks. In order to create or invent a job, you need investment. Each and every investment comes with risks and this is no different.

Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

[NOTE: if this topic has been discussed before then let me know.]

Both have their own challenges. With such a bad economy in the world, both options you mentioned have some consequences. It is very difficult to make business decisions nowadays. Capital may be required to make some decisions or to implement our decisions. Sometimes we may lose our capital due to the decisions we make.

Taking risks can help us reach our goals, but it can also take us away from our goals. Finally, I can say that acting in a planned manner brings us closer to our goal.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Xampeuu on November 29, 2023, 07:24:16 AM
Currently I am working for a company, but there is a desire to work on my own to open a business. but this goes back to a person's mentality because starting your own business is not easy, therefore I took a safe point, namely opening a business as a sideline to my job, with the hope that later it can grow and develop until I give up my main job, it's not easy, it will but while it's still easy, we have to use it properly


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: shield132 on November 29, 2023, 07:45:04 AM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing.
half of Earth's terrestrial land surface remains untouched by humans, there won't be a land problem, problem is that everyone wants to live capitals.

But it brings risks. In order to create or invent a job, you need investment. Each and every investment comes with risks and this is no different.
Self-employment doesn't bring any risk. If you are a roofer, you'll need a roofing nail guns, roofing hammer, hammer tacker stapler and etc... These are necessary tools and you don't really need more than necessary tools to start a trades business where you are self-employeed. It only brings risks when you want to create a big business where you sell product/service and have to employee others.

Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.
That's true but competition is good, this is how it works, one succeeds and one stays at home.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?
The first one is better. When you do your job yourself, you don't have boss and you don't make them rich, you only work for making yourself better.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: EarnOnVictor on November 29, 2023, 07:45:13 AM
So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?
My friend, let your passion and destiny guide you, the two are good, it depends on how lucky we are in our paths in life. Some people are in the wrong countries and environments, while others are not, and some people are in the wrong profession while others are in the right profession. These are the factors and they are regardless of whether they create jobs or be employees, if you are in the right profession, you will make it.

As some might believe that creating jobs for themselves is the best, have they also thought of those who did this and even tried it in many fields but failed? As we think of the good side of anything, we should also think of the challenges attached to it, it's not everybody that creates a job or project that is successful in it. The same thing goes for employment, some people are so lucky in their employment pursuits and made a very good career in it, whereas some people are so unlucky in this. The latter is often caused by the unavailability of quality employees in some countries, while the environment of some people even in a good country is not encouraging, which they need to change instead of complaining.

In light of these two points, I am neutral on this, if you could be gainfully employed and earn good money there, you should go for it, even at that, nothing is stopping you from having your side business(s) as an employee. Also, you can create a job for yourself and others if that is your passion, but if it's not working for you, there is nothing bad in trying to be employed, so try your luck.

This last piece of advice was applicable to a person I know in my neighbourhood recently, he had worked as a mechanic for over 10 years. But it wasn't easy anymore when he got married and had two kids, he had to abandon the profession and he's current working for the Customs services in my country. It's better to neutrally study the situation and act accordingly, and one shouldn't be the priority over the other unless it's your passion.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Reatim on November 29, 2023, 08:06:51 AM
Entrepreneur: Quit your nine to five jobs and start a business, you only enrich your boss.
Employee: If I'm comfortable with my current jobs and get paid accordingly, why I need to quit? if every people become entrepreneur, who's gonna work for them?

If you can become entrepreneur and handle many people then congratulations because each person has it's own character or personality which you can't generalize if become entrepreneur is better than become employee.
You have clearly delivered the true sentiment of the people (as I am also one of the employee that use to have that Views in life)  
as a government employee for more than 12 years? and in private office for 13 years? yah I was being paid  decent and with Under the table as well knowing how government sometimes goes.

Not Until the pandemic (COVID19) comes when Jobs need to be cancelled( because our government branch isn't really functioning in pandemic days)
so i have to find alternative and yes My wife and I decided to open a small restaurant.

it is really hard when we started because Lock Down is happening and the store needs closure each time but we manage to stay strong and yes
up to now our small restaurant have grown and yes from Me and Her ? now we have 5 employees (aside from delivery rider that we are paying
depending of how much he delivered each day)

and I can say is better to have your Own profiteering than being Employee , though I still go to work waiting for my Early retirement
to focus in business , I may say my wage  is not even 30% of what we are getting from business now.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: topbitcoin on November 29, 2023, 08:42:11 AM
Whether you are a worker or an entrepreneur, both things are good. As long as you don't just become unemployed, because being unemployed is a heavy burden for the family and the country.

Being a worker or an entrepreneur, both things are good. because it proves that they want to have financial independence. However, if we talk about which one is better, it is better to be an entrepreneur, because by becoming an entrepreneur, apart from being able to have financial independence, we can also have economic independence and not depend our hopes and lives on other people or companies. And on the other hand, by becoming an entrepreneur you can also provide more benefits to other people, because by having a business you will create a job opportunity that will help many people, or at least be able to help your relatives and people around you. because life is not about how rich we are, but life is about how useful our life is to other people. And if you can't provide benefits to other people, then don't ever let your life become a hassle for other people.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: red4slash on November 29, 2023, 09:23:13 AM
finding a job or roughly speaking creating new jobs is quite good because we indirectly rise in terms of caste and are not called employees / subordinates especially we work on our own demands not others and indeed it is a very good thing but the problem is that it is not as easy as imagined.
Indeed, everyone wants to be their own boss but sometimes not everyone has the same fate even though they want the same thing because if in the end the thinking is that simple with everyone being their own boss then there will be no balance in life.
On the other hand, there needs to be some considerations that occur to support this because finding a job all needs to be fully prepared in terms of plans and finances.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Fiatless on November 29, 2023, 09:31:30 AM

To explain it a bit more, inventing a job means doing something on your own and creating an opportunity for yourself. This could also include creating opportunities for others too. Those who invent their own jobs can design positions that are in line with their particular skills, interests, and values. This gives them a sense of fulfilment and autonomy that may not be available in traditional employment options.
But it brings risks. In order to create or invent a job, you need investment. Each and every investment comes with risks and this is no different.
Starting a business requires financial and other resources. Most people cannot afford to raise funds that could be used to start a business. Even when you have a good proposal no bank will be willing to give a loan or credit facilities with stringent conditions or collateral. Starting a business also needs some level of skills in the field. You can learn on the job when you are employed but learning on the job in your own business might lead to loss of funds. But the beauty of owning your business is that you enjoy the profit as the business grows and you also have the freedom to engage in other family or other social activities because you can control your time.    

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Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.
Paid employment could lead to underemployment or even underpayment. Even if the firm is making more profit from your input, you will still earn your normal pay. In some developing nations the workers are treated like slaves. Some even engage in domestic work in the houses of their bosses after closing from office work. You can be called up at any time even during holidays to the office and carry out official tasks. People have to endure this employment abuse because there are few jobs being chased by many applicants.  

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So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

[NOTE: if this topic has been discussed before then let me know.]
Life is too short to be spent on modern-day slavery. I have plans to work for a number of years so that I can raise capital to start my own business. The capital I need is not to purchase goods that will be sold for profit, it is a backup fund that will be able to provide my basic needs for about two years to enable me to invest more time in my services-oriented business. I don't want to run the rat race till death. I want to own my life and work hard at my pace and not under the control of wicked employers.  


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Ucy on November 29, 2023, 10:25:05 AM
Successful self-employed people are typically leaders while the employed/employees are followers who are told what to do. It's hard to be a leader just as it's hard to run a business probably with many workers to manage.

Alot of people want to be self-employed and run their own business but when they get there they discover it is really difficult to do. Only the gifted few with broader minds who likely enjoy what they do are able to endure the difficulties of running businesses in order to understand the dos and don'ts of it and stick to what works. And eventually master the businesses, expand and probably employ people to work for them.
It's important to master a business... When you do, risk is drastically reduced.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Sim_card on November 29, 2023, 10:48:38 AM
To be self employed, you must have a capital and will be ready to take risk. Some people are not good risk taker and that is why some people will still prefer to work for people because they don't have the ability to set up themselves and face the risk that is involved in the line that they chose. Inventing a job is the best because you will have the right to do things at your own free time and not to be under pressure. You will have the opportunity to create jobs for people and to also expand. Let's imagine that everyone depends on government jobs and nobody decided to invent jobs, it means that a lot of people working now will be in their houses leaving in poverty. I prefer inventing a job because with that I can use it to make my dreams com true and I don't need to depend on anyone for survival.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Accardo on November 29, 2023, 12:13:31 PM
Every method of earning a living is great, the difference is how we feel about the jobs we do. Many who worked as employees made much money to finance their livelihood, according to their salaries. The only benefits of running a business as a CEO is the scale of income. Salary earners hardly scale their income, unless promoted. But, the risk is less, they'll have to bother less regarding management and distribution of funds, like the CEOs. The benefit of inventing a job is, the huge rewards that follows after investing in the business. Yet, losses are much on their side, during the building stage. It's more beneficial when the invented job, isn't anywhere; completely a fresh idea. And not everybody can carryout such tasks. That's why division of labor is needed in the business world. Those who work to earn salaries and the ones that create the business. Lack of job contributed to the reason for encouraging people to venture into business as CEOs. Having too many business owners will affect the market, they'll be lesser people who would want to work as employees. When multiple people do one kind of business, it won't be beneficial on the long run. The best idea is acknowledging that both inventing a job and being employed are good. So that they'll be a balanced market. Thereby increasing productivity in the economy of any nation.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Inwestour on November 29, 2023, 12:13:36 PM
finding a job or roughly speaking creating new jobs is quite good because we indirectly rise in terms of caste and are not called employees / subordinates especially we work on our own demands not others and indeed it is a very good thing but the problem is that it is not as easy as imagined.
Indeed, everyone wants to be their own boss but sometimes not everyone has the same fate even though they want the same thing because if in the end the thinking is that simple with everyone being their own boss then there will be no balance in life.
On the other hand, there needs to be some considerations that occur to support this because finding a job all needs to be fully prepared in terms of plans and finances.
If it were so simple, then everyone could create their own business, but as practice shows, finding a job is much easier than creating jobs. When you are an employee, the employer does everything for you, you don’t need to think about taxes, and about all the organizational issues, of which there are a lot, you have worked, received a salary and that’s it. But with business this will not work and many are not ready for this, this is a big responsibility, and in order to successfully manage a business you need knowledge and experience without which it will not be possible to achieve success.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on November 29, 2023, 12:17:03 PM
Come up with a job, or, more correctly, open your own business. Here, it should be clear to everyone that it is very difficult to create everything from a blank sheet of paper and an empty wallet. You need an idea—a product that would be in demand among consumers and have very few competitors. This requires creativity, an entrepreneurial spark, or otherwise talent, and, of course, considerable financial capital.
But coming up with a job for yourself, as the OP puts it, so as not to sit idle, is quite simple. Clean up your territory.
Offer your services to your neighbors for any little thing, and that’s it; you’re no longer unemployed.
Therefore, always share the understanding of opening a business in which, in the future, you might not have to work, or work and come up with something to do, just so as not to sit in one place.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Samlucky O on November 29, 2023, 12:19:58 PM
Owning a business is very important, it makes you feel at ease and also makes you to be free from being enslaved in some office work all in the name of employment. Employment has been a way of modern day slavery, where you work for your boss and earn peanuts at the end of the day. Working for someone shouldn't be a lifetime work. expecialy when it comes to the insult type. Being an employee is a short way of learning a business strategy to start your own, but many people fail to understand that employment is a contract, you can be fired at an instant. So what ever work you are employed to do you should always bear it in mind that one day your services will no longer be needed. and thereby making you to start afresh.

If you look at the society today you will see many people complaining of lack of employment, because they failed to understand the facts that employment work is a temporary job and you can be dropt at any given time. On daily basis things are getting expensive, children are gradually growing to adult, so are there demands are getting high maybe from secondary school to tatiary institution. If you don't start creating a job for yourself, your children will grew up to start also looking for job instead of continueing from the legacy you've made. That is why in most scinero you will see poverty Increase in the society, which leeds to Crime. That is how most children inherited poverty due to lack of planning of parents when the had the opportunity.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Negotiation on November 29, 2023, 01:02:01 PM
Of course, finding a job is better than looking for a job these days, but there are many complications in finding a job these days. And since job hunting is complicated, it is administratively and financially difficult to do so without being very self-reliant. .

The most important thing is that if you want to give to an organization, it will not be possible to do it without knowing very good financial management. And if you don't have previous management experience and you haven't done this kind of work, it can be more complicated for you.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Essential10 on November 29, 2023, 01:13:52 PM
I think finding jobs is better than creating jobs. There is no guarantee of success in job creation, and you may encounter financial challenges and obstacles. There is no definitive answer as to whether creating a job is better than finding a job. Limited job opportunities which is depressing for unemployed youth. Life actually involves taking risks and moving forward. In challenging times, it is often time to explore innovative solutions and consider alternative paths.Taking the initiative to explore different sectors, network with professionals, or engage in projects or internships can provide valuable experience and lead to potential job opportunities. Even if these ventures may not immediately lead to an ideal job, they can contribute to personal growth, skill development, and expanding one's professional network. Sometimes, the journey towards finding the right job can take time, but with persistence and determination, challenges can be overcome and a path to a fulfilling career can be made.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: slapper on November 29, 2023, 02:54:32 PM
Creating a job is a risky business move, right? It draws on our greatest inventiveness and resilience. Autonomy and creating a job that matches values are appealing. Importantly, it's not only investing risk. Investment in self-skills, knowledge, and adaptability is also important. Are we persons always learning, changing, and agile? In a world of perpetual change, that's key. However, financial, emotional, and social danger exist. Potential and unpredictability await on this route.

Traditional employment is another option. Stability and income are important, especially in a volatile economy. Is it risk-free? Stagnation, not realizing our potential, and organizational changes are risks. As you noted, the job market is competitive. It requires talents and marketing expertise. It's not only about 'getting' a job; it's about upskilling and being proactive in a fast-changing work market. Both options involve significant financial and personal growth and adaptability investments. Where to focus your energy?


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: coupable on November 29, 2023, 03:14:16 PM
To explain it a bit more, inventing a job means doing something on your own and creating an opportunity for yourself. This could also include creating opportunities for others too. Those who invent their own jobs can design positions that are in line with their particular skills, interests, and values. This gives them a sense of fulfilment and autonomy that may not be available in traditional employment options.
But it brings risks. In order to create or invent a job, you need investment. Each and every investment comes with risks and this is no different.
One of the most creative ways in the field of launching projects and investment is when mental abilities are employed to create a need in a specific niche and then work to meet that need. I will give an example of this that I witnessed myself during the Corona period, which I find somewhat funny:
One of the local craftsmen completely stopped his activity due to the quarantine imposed on the entire country, and only trade activities in basic food supplies and medicines are allowed to operate. The idea that came to this unemployed craftsman was to convince people that they need to breathe clean air in order for the Corona vaccination to take effect, and to convince them that city life does not have clean air. Then what did he do? He rented a plot of land adjacent to the city, and he in turn began renting it to citizens who are in a period of quarantine due to infection or vaccination, while maintaining social distancing between them. The Corona quarantine periods have ended, and that same person is still working in the same activity, which has become a huge profit for him after he rented natural lands in other areas and also provided means of transportation for those who do not have cars. It was a genius idea and it boiled down to “creating a need” for a specific niche and then working to secure it. Of course, this is better than looking for work as an employee.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Doan9269 on November 29, 2023, 03:17:30 PM
If we really understand what it means to be independent, then we will always want to invent on something than working for someone who already have invented his own idea, working under a boss has alot of challenges, you cannot consider yourself first before taking the  kind of job you do into consideration because you wouldn't want to loose it, only few havebthe mind of creating an idea that could turn to a massive output that others could benefit from it, not to talk of the numerous challenges involved alongside the way of getting it established.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: naira on November 29, 2023, 03:33:03 PM
I would say the best is certainly inventing a job that is you own this comes with total control and freedom. There are people that wants to practice their profession but the capital to actually invent it is too high and risky. As for me I would prefer both. I have a profession that I would love to practice and also have my own business. So both have an advantage but inventing one’s business is definitely more appealing to many people because of the freedom that comes with it
Ideally, I want to create jobs, but to achieve this all means having a strong foundation, mentality, knowledge, supporting capital and having studied the employment sector that can run long term. Everyone hopes that this will be realized, by giving hope to the people around them to become more productive. For example, in 2015-2019 I owned almost 9 local businesses and had around 20 to 30 employees, all of whom were generally 20-35 years old, men and women. The Covid 19 pandemic has completely destroyed the business I built until there is nothing left. The local food industry could not survive in these conditions, restrictions etc. became our biggest obstacle in expanding our business and decided to close all operations.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Miles2006 on November 29, 2023, 04:03:22 PM
Everyone will prefer to own a job like a CEO, a boss that doesn't need an order or control, that's the perfect choice to make but if it were easy everyone would be called a CEO, inventing a job comes with a lot of risk and not everyone can cope with the stress of inventing a job.
Also inventing a job requires experience and proper attention, if no proper care is given to the business the business might likely fall, the capital use in creating a business in the economy situation might be huge, considering all this factors it's better to invent a business when you're fully ready and have experience about the business instead of rushing to create a job for yourself.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on November 29, 2023, 04:35:04 PM
Successful self-employed people are typically leaders while the employed/employees are followers who are told what to do. It's hard to be a leader just as it's hard to run a business probably with many workers to manage.

Alot of people want to be self-employed and run their own business but when they get there they discover it is really difficult to do. Only the gifted few with broader minds who likely enjoy what they do are able to endure the difficulties of running businesses in order to understand the dos and don'ts of it and stick to what works. And eventually master the businesses, expand and probably employ people to work for them.
It's important to master a business... When you do, risk is drastically reduced.
  No one currently wants to work for someone, everyone wants to be a boss of their own self but not everyone would be their own boss. For me, I choose self employment as best because you'd be the one to run your business affairs the best way you seem fit, no one will order you around, you'd be able to detect a number of errors and fix them to your own taste although working for someone won't be bad but just the fact of being submissive and always responsive to someone, as well as sometimes your ideas may not be taken handy and you'd just be left there in your office space doing the daily routine without any special impact or addition.
   Being self employed gives you the leisure of raising younger entrepreneurs that are as zealous to stand on their own as you. It'll give you much more experience as you'd need both leadership and career wise. The benefits just can't be overemphasized because being a sole boss, every entity of your business or organization will have to submit to you and then you choose the areas you please to check for loopholes and suggest or implement mastery solutions for them.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Lorence.xD on November 29, 2023, 05:46:08 PM
Well, both are actually good as they give people a source of money to provide for their everyday needs. It would literally depend on the person itself which they much prefer cause some people are risk takers to invest their money and some would like to work under a company cause you would be paid with your time, skills, efforts, etc. Personally, I think creating a job is much better than finding a job, but of course, it is much harder to handle for example building a business, you would need to handpick people to hire as they would be the ones to handle some roles in your business, cause if you did not check their capabilities and skills, for sure it would be a downfall that's why interview is a must. Plus the needs of huge funds and capital would be needed as you need labor work, materials, and rental for your building business, from that many, people wouldn't hassle themselves as they need first to be strategic and would be settled in working under a company.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: umbara ardian on November 29, 2023, 05:49:27 PM
The world benefits from a blend of personalities, talents, and skills. While entrepreneurs play a vital role in driving innovation and economic growth, those who prefer structured employment contribute immensely to the smooth operation of businesses and organizations.

Not everyone is naturally suited for entrepreneurship. Each individual possesses unique strengths and weaknesses, and it's crucial to identify and pursue career paths that align with one's abilities and interests. Instead of viewing job seekers as lacking in creativity or entrepreneurial spirit, we should recognize that their preference for traditional employment reflects their unique strengths and preferences. Their contributions are just as valuable in maintaining the stability and efficiency of the workforce.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 29, 2023, 07:37:53 PM
Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?
Working at someone else's place has a much smaller level of risk because we don't spend capital to start, but for people who like the challenge of working at someone else's place is not an option because it will be difficult for us to develop ourselves. Both talking about the potential for seeking much greater profits and managing time. Nowadays some people may talk about how they can get a job, not how far they can make a lot of money because the availability of jobs is very difficult.

It depends on how responsible someone is and if someone doesn't like the risk of working for someone else it will be much better than opening up opportunities in their own business. But for some people, it is better to open their own business, even if it is small, because they can manage their own work time and strategy to generate much greater profits.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Cookdata on November 29, 2023, 07:54:08 PM
Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

[NOTE: if this topic has been discussed before then let me know.]

No matter how you present it, finding a job is way easier than been owner of a business or as a CEO. I think one of the benefits of finding a job is going through school and having the academic qualifications of a particular field of study will have you a job and if you come from a place where the system is working, I mean where there is plentiful of job opportunities, you will secure one with good pay.

While been the owner of the jobs, first you need money to pay people even when you have not started earning from the jobs you want to give to people, it's possible that you will even run into a loss and have to mass sack some workers if care is not taken and you may even worst case may never recover after that losts. However, if you successfully create a job for you and for the people, you will understand how easy it is to be independent of people and not to allow anyone play with your freedom.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 29, 2023, 08:03:36 PM
The world population is increasing
I just want to stop right here and ask about this particular point you made.  I haven't looked (and probably should have before beginning this post), but I've heard that because of the newer generation(s) not being interested in sex that population growth has either slowed significantly or gone negative.  If all you're saying is that it's increasing, well, that's been true for centuries.  Probably since the beginning of man, right?

That quote in the title, I heard it in The Social Network and still remember it.  The Larry Summers character said it to the Winklevoss twins about Harvard students--and that's just the thing; it might very well be true for those who could get into a university like Harvard, but for the rest of us inventing a job and not only being able to support yourself and perhaps a family too, but to turn it into something highly profitable, is a pipe dream.  The fact that there are so many human beings on the planet makes it nearly impossible to do it, because there are only so many jobs one can invent without the need for workers, i.e., those who find jobs.

All of that blather aside, I'd have to at least agree that working for yourself is way better than being a cog in the enormous wheel of the corporate world (if you're not an upper-level boss, that is).


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: kentrolla on November 29, 2023, 08:17:25 PM
Rather a challenging task, one must start something on own which involve risk and financial backup as well. Unfortunately those unemployed people don't have funds to do something on their own and thus looking for a job which will eventually bound them into corporate slavery post which even if they wish they wouldn't be able to quit the job because of responsibilities they have at that time.

I have seen people eating two times a day saving some money from doing odd job and simultaneously working full time and doing part time businesses but down the line they are more successful than those who posted for corporate jobs as those opted for job are now struck at a position and it's difficult to grow beyond that but that's not the case with the ones who creates job for themselves and others.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: milewilda on November 29, 2023, 08:23:29 PM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing. People are running out of options and opportunities. In this world the situation we are in right now, which one should you choose or have chosen? Both options have their pros and cons. I want to know from your experience, which one is better than the other. Are you satisfied with the path that you have chosen or do you have any regrets about it?

To explain it a bit more, inventing a job means doing something on your own and creating an opportunity for yourself. This could also include creating opportunities for others too. Those who invent their own jobs can design positions that are in line with their particular skills, interests, and values. This gives them a sense of fulfilment and autonomy that may not be available in traditional employment options.
But it brings risks. In order to create or invent a job, you need investment. Each and every investment comes with risks and this is no different.

Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

[NOTE: if this topic has been discussed before then let me know.]

Take the risks and invest a job via means on creating your own business/empire/company? Sounds really that too easy but on the time that you do set your foot then or sure you wont really be that
able to know on where you would start. We know that it does really need up some funding and this cant be cheap plus also not all people do really love or willing to take up such risks considering
that it does need up money or funding on which you would be primarily thinking on what the heck would be i doing on which you are really that tending to seek for money and not on spending
money on trying to create something like business or what. Yes, the advocacy or your plans is really right there but some people would really be remain realistic and instead of spending or risking
your funds then they would really be going into much safer side.

We would definitely be going in line on getting some jobs and earning with those, doesnt matter if its really that less or lacking because of competition or continuous
bloat up of population and as long they do have the degree then they would definitely be doing it.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: DVlog on November 29, 2023, 08:49:48 PM
It is not as simple as OP mentioned. To create a new job position, at first we need to find out a problem that needs a human being to solve. This can be related to anything like a production, service or something that needs human interference. If you are planning to open a business and give some people jobs there it won't be inventing. Investing means totally new type of job that didn't exist at that time. As an example before the development of AI there wasn't a job called AI instructor where a job position would be opened for someone who knew how to command AI to do something. This is totally new job position.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 30, 2023, 06:10:10 AM
If someone find a job from government then it's a good opportunity and one should not miss it because if he Don't focus on such opportunity then he will regret for his refusing a job. But if a person is unable to find a job even he is struggling day and night then creation of job will be better for him. Everyone cannot create a job because large sum as an investment is needed for it but if one possess higher amount and can afford to invest it in creating a job then he should do it because in near future he will recover this amount and will also earn more than invested amount.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Uruhara on November 30, 2023, 06:55:59 AM
I am currently in a position have a job. And before I had a job I had difficulty when I was looking for a job at that time. I really almost gave up at that time. And yeah finding a job is really hard. And now I'm in the process of creating a job. And it turns out that creating jobs is just as difficult.

Have you ever had a business idea that seemed very brilliant and seemed like it would be successful. But then we learned of the reality on the ground that it turned out that the idea we found had also been discovered and had even been implemented by other people. Then I gave up my intention to start a business with my idea which turned out to be already being used by other people. So I think both of them are not easy at the moment. In today's unstable economic conditions, business competition and competition in finding work are just as tight. So it is difficult to choose which is easier. but if we already have a lot of capital then I will choose to make it easier to create jobs. Because the difficulty of creating jobs is because we have limited capital which makes us have to think about everything over and over again. Because we cannot fail twice if our capital is limited.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Y3shot on November 30, 2023, 07:13:27 AM
If someone find a job from government then it's a good opportunity and one should not miss it because if he Don't focus on such opportunity then he will regret for his refusing a job. But if a person is unable to find a job even he is struggling day and night then creation of job will be better for him. Everyone cannot create a job because large sum as an investment is needed for it but if one possess higher amount and can afford to invest it in creating a job then he should do it because in near future he will recover this amount and will also earn more than invested amount.
Creating a job should be the first thing that must be in anybody minds , looking from job from the government shouldn't be a thing that must be taking serious but if one is lucky to find one then it needs to be grabbed. Nobody who have been creative have ever regreted it for being creative,  it will put some amount of money in your pocket that if you stay idle no one will give to you when you need it . Creating a job is what is needed for young people coming up.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 30, 2023, 10:23:41 AM
Well, in my opinion, I think it depends on what you can archive first. If you can get a job first, then get one, work, and start earning so you can meet some end needs. If you are capable of also inventing a business or a self-employed job for yourself, then go along with it. I know that starting a business requires you to have the start-up capital, and if you don't have any money at hand, you need to either get a job and save from your salary, or you can take out a loan or get some help from your relatives.

So many people that are working in some company today or that are working for the government have intentions to also start their own business and become their own boss, but maybe things never fall into place, and that's why they are still working.

So, I would advise that you choose the one that is easier for you to archive first, then do it. Some people resigned from the job they were doing because they wanted to start their own business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: slapper on November 30, 2023, 11:32:27 AM
I am currently in a position have a job. And before I had a job I had difficulty when I was looking for a job at that time. I really almost gave up at that time. And yeah finding a job is really hard. And now I'm in the process of creating a job. And it turns out that creating jobs is just as difficult.

Have you ever had a business idea that seemed very brilliant and seemed like it would be successful. But then we learned of the reality on the ground that it turned out that the idea we found had also been discovered and had even been implemented by other people. Then I gave up my intention to start a business with my idea which turned out to be already being used by other people. So I think both of them are not easy at the moment. In today's unstable economic conditions, business competition and competition in finding work are just as tight. So it is difficult to choose which is easier. but if we already have a lot of capital then I will choose to make it easier to create jobs. Because the difficulty of creating jobs is because we have limited capital which makes us have to think about everything over and over again. Because we cannot fail twice if our capital is limited.
Is the problem limited capital or our problem-solving style? We frequently focus on capital, but isn't ingenuity just as important? Low-capital start-ups that rose due to inventive strategy and market insight are everywhere. Could reevaluating our strategy reveal more potential than we think?

Your experience shows that competition can make you give up on a company idea. What if market repetition is a foundation for differentiation? Many successful companies weren't first; they did it better or differently. Could your non-unique idea have been executed better than the competition? Entrepreneurship is often about how as well as what. In a changing economy, adaptability and innovation are crucial. Could refocusing on a niche or adding a distinctive twist revive your shelved idea?


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: huu78 on November 30, 2023, 01:07:07 PM
I think for people who both want to start a business and work have something in common if they have never done it at all, let's take the example of those looking for work if they fail in their first job or don't pass the selection, they can still look for another job.
Meanwhile, if people who build businesses fail in their first attempt, not everyone can build the next business, especially those with minimal money, so from my point of view, people who create businesses will have a tougher struggle at the start.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Z_MBFM on November 30, 2023, 02:01:44 PM
Inventing a job is just like being self employed or being a self CEO than working for another person, usually having a personal business pays more than working for someone because it's an indirect slavery why because the company doesn't pay you up to their 10 percent of the total revenue of the company and why would a reasonable go after working for company instead of building and inventing their own business. What makes most people go after finding job is that they don't have all it takes to invent a business it could be that they have chance or or they needs an urgent money to take fixed out some personal problems and family issues so these sets of people always finds it very hard to go start up a person business. I have actually came across similar topic just that this looks more of well coodinated than the previous I came cross if I am not mistaking.
Doing something yourself is much better than working for someone else's company and there is a lot of freedom. When you do any job you have to follow many rules which will never give you freedom. It always puts you under a pressure and you have to maintain a time all the time. But if you do your work yourself or hire someone to do your work it will bring you a good profit and you will get a lot of freedom. So it is definitely better to invest on your own than to job under someone else.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: summonerrk on November 30, 2023, 02:09:12 PM
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It is very important to invest in your horizons and your skills. And I'm not talking about mindless spending of money on e-courses and similar nonsense, you need to first of all reach for knowledge yourself and always want more. Be ambitious. And spending money should be different in autumn and be only in cases where it is necessary, for example, to buy materials for a hobby, which can then become promising in earnings. That's how I learned programming and drawing.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: angrybirdy on November 30, 2023, 02:12:50 PM
I think for people who both want to start a business and work have something in common if they have never done it at all, let's take the example of those looking for work if they fail in their first job or don't pass the selection, they can still look for another job.
Meanwhile, if people who build businesses fail in their first attempt, not everyone can build the next business, especially those with minimal money, so from my point of view, people who create businesses will have a tougher struggle at the start.
Everyone has the right to build their own business but not all are capable to handle and to run a Business, even if you have a lot if money as your capital, you need to learn and to review it first if business is for you, That's why many people decided to find a job rather then inventing a job because everyone has a different path when it comes to managing and securing their future. As per my observation, running a business is more profitable than having a job but it depends in the overall status of your business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: tjtonmoy on November 30, 2023, 02:23:00 PM
The world population is increasing
I just want to stop right here and ask about this particular point you made.  I haven't looked (and probably should have before beginning this post), but I've heard that because of the newer generation(s) not being interested in sex that population growth has either slowed significantly or gone negative.  If all you're saying is that it's increasing, well, that's been true for centuries.  Probably since the beginning of man, right?
The growth of the population has decreased but not to a level where there are more opportunities. It is true that our generation and the generation after us has become less interested in sex due to many things, but it has increased slightly this year. That is a 1% increase since 2014.
The World Population is growing by over 200,000 people a day
The population of the world today is about 215,000 people larger than yesterday. The world population clock shows you in real time how fast it’s actually going. The development will put enormous pressure on Earth’s resources and we’ll need to find more sustainable ways of living. And fast!

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That quote in the title, I heard it in The Social Network and still remember it.  The Larry Summers character said it to the Winklevoss twins about Harvard students--and that's just the thing; it might very well be true for those who could get into a university like Harvard, but for the rest of us inventing a job and not only being able to support yourself and perhaps a family too, but to turn it into something highly profitable, is a pipe dream.  The fact that there are so many human beings on the planet makes it nearly impossible to do it, because there are only so many jobs one can invent without the need for workers, i.e., those who find jobs.
I also heard it somewhere and wasn't able to remember where. Now that you have mentioned it, that rings a bell.

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All of that blather aside, I'd have to at least agree that working for yourself is way better than being a cog in the enormous wheel of the corporate world (if you're not an upper-level boss, that is).
It is hard to invent a job. But that is just life. Nothing comes easy. Keep struggling until you find success. Even after you achieve it, you will still need to struggle. Because keeping that success is much harder than earning it.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: btc78 on November 30, 2023, 02:43:08 PM

Have you ever had a business idea that seemed very brilliant and seemed like it would be successful. But then we learned of the reality on the ground that it turned out that the idea we found had also been discovered and had even been implemented by other people.

More often times, when we start a business it’s usually based on our passion or skill set so we might feel really confident but then once you’ve started working you’ll realize that passion and great ideas are not enough to run a business there’s still the financial side that you have to maintain the hardest part of a business that you started from your passion is accepting that you’re not making profit out of it


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 30, 2023, 03:08:46 PM
More often times, when we start a business it’s usually based on our passion or skill set so we might feel really confident but then once you’ve started working you’ll realize that passion and great ideas are not enough to run a business there’s still the financial side that you have to maintain the hardest part of a business that you started from your passion is accepting that you’re not making profit out of it
Thus we can confirm that when people build a business based on passion then there is no chance for them to reach the stage of success. Building a business must be based on customer needs and if you do not control the market then the path to achieving success will be very difficult to find. Business ideas are based on the level of need and if the business we build is not what the people around it need then there are many things we have to do. For example trying to promote on social media or opening a buying and selling system on the available social media platforms.

Business outreach must also be carried out by surveying whether the target market is only for a small area or it could be that our business has a market that covers a wide scope. In the end, we can see the suitability of the business we are running and when the time is right, I am sure we will achieve success in building a business much more quickly. A businessman must be able to see opportunities because currently there are many competitors when building the same business and if we are not good at seeing opportunities it will be quite difficult to compete.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: CageMabok on November 30, 2023, 03:58:20 PM
If someone find a job from government then it's a good opportunity and one should not miss it because if he Don't focus on such opportunity then he will regret for his refusing a job. But if a person is unable to find a job even he is struggling day and night then creation of job will be better for him. Everyone cannot create a job because large sum as an investment is needed for it but if one possess higher amount and can afford to invest it in creating a job then he should do it because in near future he will recover this amount and will also earn more than invested amount.
I also think that a job offer in a government agency is an opportunity that has come and should not be missed if someone does not have the ability to create their own job opportunities by investing a certain amount of capital for themselves. Because creating jobs also requires very special skills apart from business capital and business premises so that the investment is not only in the form of money, but also in the form of energy, thoughts and time so that it can produce better and stronger jobs.

Creating a job should be the first thing that must be in anybody minds , looking from job from the government shouldn't be a thing that must be taking serious but if one is lucky to find one then it needs to be grabbed. Nobody who have been creative have ever regreted it for being creative,  it will put some amount of money in your pocket that if you stay idle no one will give to you when you need it . Creating a job is what is needed for young people coming up.
What you say is also good because remembering that not everyone is able to create their own jobs, as well as job offers from the government, not everyone can get them easily. So both have become very important in life, even though placing the main point on creating jobs can be used as the first option for everyone in their life. Because working in a government agency will not be sufficient for everyone and will not enable everyone to gain wealth in the short term because the salary itself is very measurable every month.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: EL MOHA on November 30, 2023, 06:12:52 PM
The growth of the population has decreased but not to a level where there are more opportunities. It is true that our generation and the generation after us has become less interested in sex due to many things, but it has increased slightly this year. That is a 1% increase since 2014.

In the part of opportunities I will say there still old opportunities but the problem still remains that most of the new generation are after getting office jobs or say people do not like to learn skills or trades anymore, education is seen as the only key to opportunities and once people acquire the degree they feel like other hand jobs isn’t worth it again. In the third world countries you will see in the past that one large family will be completely famers and Another family will be into another thing. But the current generation, when Many are into agriculture even with mechanize technologies available? So I will say it is actually this generation that is limited opportunities to something they prefer rather than what is available


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Bloodseekers on November 30, 2023, 06:35:37 PM
Creating a job should be the first thing that must be in anybody minds , looking from job from the government shouldn't be a thing that must be taking serious but if one is lucky to find one then it needs to be grabbed. Nobody who have been creative have ever regreted it for being creative,  it will put some amount of money in your pocket that if you stay idle no one will give to you when you need it . Creating a job is what is needed for young people coming up.
When someone can create jobs, of course they have helped other people get jobs and given them income for their needs, this is really a very good thing, but when they have worked in the business that we have built, it is necessary to give them wages according to the work they have done. they do, lest we fail to reward them according to their work.

I agree with your opinion that we don't need to be too serious about thinking about getting a job with the government, because the salary that will be obtained from working for the government is very different from those who choose to develop a business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: ultrloa on November 30, 2023, 10:58:05 PM

Have you ever had a business idea that seemed very brilliant and seemed like it would be successful. But then we learned of the reality on the ground that it turned out that the idea we found had also been discovered and had even been implemented by other people.

More often times, when we start a business it’s usually based on our passion or skill set so we might feel really confident but then once you’ve started working you’ll realize that passion and great ideas are not enough to run a business there’s still the financial side that you have to maintain the hardest part of a business that you started from your passion is accepting that you’re not making profit out of it

Yeah its good to create a business base on our skill and passion since if we are just creating it without any knowledge brought up and we just enter the scene its because its a hype on your community then most provably it will end up as a fail for us. That's why we need to understand that we need to have passion on it also know the target market so we would know how we can reach up to more people and bring more sales.

At current times where everything is online I guess we need to ride up with the trend so much better if we combine skills,passion and trend since this could give us more good result especially if we try to wide up the exposure of the business we build. Maintaining the business you created maybe the hardest part but once you know how to tackle up what people like and can do series of promotion on each season on your place for sure they would remember your services or products offered to them.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: dothebeats on November 30, 2023, 11:15:47 PM
Inventing a job sounds ridiculous. I'd stick with "creating demand" for a niche that people never knew they needed. With this, you'll know that you're the only one that will be contacted by individuals interested with your product/service because you are the only one offering it. Add to the fact that since whatever you proposed is novel, you might get a lot of partnerships with it or even offered some money to do trainings with it.

Take for example Prompt Engineers for AI. These were never a thing just a few years ago, but the demand for it in the market is high because as a lot of organizations gear towards utilizing AI, they realized that they have to have the right approach for the AI to work according to their specifications. This is where prompt engineers come in. Do you need to be techie or know a lot about AI to be a prompt engineer? Absolutely not. You just have to find the right words in order for the LLM AIs to understand what needs to be done, and ensure that the output is correct.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Rasa nanas on November 30, 2023, 11:28:26 PM
I'm sure there are many different opinions regarding this issue. There are people who don't want to take risks and prefer to continue working in a company and there are people who have thoughts of starting their own business or creating jobs and are willing to bear the risk of loss. These two things both have negative sides. If you work for a company you have to be willing to work by following the company's rules and most likely those rules will stress you out and take up most of your time, but on the bright side your salary every month is certain. But if you open your own business perhaps the pressure you experience will not be as great as when working for a company and you can manage your own time, but on the negative sideyour income is uncertain or you could even make a loss.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: oktana on November 30, 2023, 11:55:04 PM
Many people are under the influence of that mindset where they think you have to work for somebody. They make it seem compulsory as if ideas cannot be created. When I look around as see what humans have done on earth, it tells me a lot about how smart we are. It’s not easy to come up with an idea that will sell, but it’s better to attempt something on your own than rushing to help someone build their own dreams. Many salary earners already know this so they even look for a business of their own so they can also be independent of job search.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on November 30, 2023, 11:58:01 PM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing. People are running out of options and opportunities. In this world the situation we are in right now, which one should you choose or have chosen? Both options have their pros and cons. I want to know from your experience, which one is better than the other. Are you satisfied with the path that you have chosen or do you have any regrets about it?

To explain it a bit more, inventing a job means doing something on your own and creating an opportunity for yourself. This could also include creating opportunities for others too. Those who invent their own jobs can design positions that are in line with their particular skills, interests, and values. This gives them a sense of fulfilment and autonomy that may not be available in traditional employment options.
But it brings risks. In order to create or invent a job, you need investment. Each and every investment comes with risks and this is no different.

Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

[NOTE: if this topic has been discussed before then let me know.]

No one became a billionaire by finding a job, but rather they all were able to afford raising such huge fund simply because they were able to invent an item capable of solving the people's problem, just like in the case of taking a look at the likes of "Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Bill Gate" and the rest of many others never who never looked for a job, but focuses on creating value which today, they stands to be pretty, ;,,&*.,


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: romero121 on November 30, 2023, 11:58:21 PM
It is good to invent a job. Not everyone have the mind to do it, thinking the risk. When we invent job we're more responsible that we need to keep running. Even some small issues could lead into financial issues. When it comes to finding a job, for our qualification we find a job and we work what had been assigned and assure of the regular earning. This is the difference why people prefer finding a job than inventing it.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: poodle63 on December 01, 2023, 12:16:01 AM
of course the result of inventing job will be significantly better than finding a job but here's the thing, are you ready to take on the risk to lose all your capital on the way of inventing jobs?
because those that can create jobs are those with capital to build their own business if you're not ready to lose your capital, facing the difficult process then creating job is just a dream.

there's reason why people are really eager to find job instead of creating new ones because its just easier, also financially stable and not mentally exhausting. thats the difference why some people just feel sufficient with finding jobs but of course their earning will be fixed at some certain rates. so therefore inventing a job have better impact because its difficult to do in the first place.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: lienfaye on December 01, 2023, 01:54:51 AM
So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?
I already take a risk years ago for inventing a job (building my own business). I started from scratch, had a concrete plan on how we can make this possible. It's not easy and you have to be prepared especially financially. Good thing even there's so many competitors we are able to stand still because our business is already established and we gained loyal customers.

However, despite this, I am not contented and want to maximize my sources to earn that's why even having a business of my own, I chose to be employed (lots of benefits). There's an advantage if you choose both. But of course much better if you are the boss of the job that you invented.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: fauzan Ichsan on December 01, 2023, 02:18:16 AM
So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?
I already take a risk years ago for inventing a job (building my own business). I started from scratch, had a concrete plan on how we can make this possible. It's not easy and you have to be prepared especially financially. Good thing even there's so many competitors we are able to stand still because our business is already established and we gained loyal customers.

However, despite this, I am not contented and want to maximize my sources to earn that's why even having a business of my own, I chose to be employed (lots of benefits). There's an advantage if you choose both. But of course much better if you are the boss of the job that you invented.
Taking on work and business supports the stability of our economy, but sometimes the business we are involved in cannot be maximized like if we worked full time as entrepreneurs, but this is not a problem, because our economy is safe. However, there are also people who dare to take the risk of leaving their jobs and entering the business sector, they believe that there must be a way to glory. On the other hand, setting aside income to invest would be better as additional capital for the next few years


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: idarasun on December 01, 2023, 07:25:01 AM
Inventing a job is just like being self employed or being a self CEO than working for another person, usually having a personal business pays more than working for someone because it's an indirect slavery why because the company doesn't pay you up to their 10 percent of the total revenue of the company and why would a reasonable go after working for company instead of building and inventing their own business. What makes most people go after finding job is that they don't have all it takes to invent a business it could be that they have chance or or they needs an urgent money to take fixed out some personal problems and family issues so these sets of people always finds it very hard to go start up a person business. I have actually came across similar topic just that this looks more of well coodinated than the previous I came cross if I am not mistaking.
It is true what you say, I have experienced what you describe and even now I am still trying, it's just that to achieve the goal I want there are many challenges, even ups and downs. However, I always correct what is wrong and maintain what is right.
In essence, if we want to create our own business and even provide employment opportunities to other people, we must have a strong and resilient mentality.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Charmekkd on December 01, 2023, 07:52:52 AM

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

Both options do have their respective advantages and disadvantages. So if I look at my personal experience, I chose the option of looking for a job first. Because when I graduated from university, I didn't have the innovation or relationships that would allow me to create a business or company. In addition, capital was still very minimal, so automatically at that time I looked for work first. And finally I was able to get a job, even now. But when I had worked for a year, at that time I already had enough money. And I decided to buy a little land to build a building/shophouse, which will later be used as a business place for me. And until now the building has not been fully built. Because I built it little by little, due to the problem of not having enough money completely. So I'm currently a quarter of the way from being able to build an independent business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: siniminomorocomunisakito on December 01, 2023, 07:57:04 AM
It is good to invent a job. Not everyone have the mind to do it, thinking the risk. When we invent job we're more responsible that we need to keep running. Even some small issues could lead into financial issues. When it comes to finding a job, for our qualification we find a job and we work what had been assigned and assure of the regular earning. This is the difference why people prefer finding a job than inventing it.

such as taker and maker trading fees. If the platform creator will have a lot of income, both from listings, fees and so on, but what we can get if we are only users is only one service that we get and we have to pay when we make several transactions.

It's the same as the process of creating jobs by working. Job creators, for example in the world of construction activities, target work volume A with a value of 1000 dollars and only need 5 workers to complete the goods in 5 days at a cost of only 20% of the value of Goods A and plus material costs of 40%. So, the average profit earned is 40$ on Item A alone, not to mention the others.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on December 01, 2023, 07:58:57 AM
It is good to invent a job. Not everyone have the mind to do it, thinking the risk. When we invent job we're more responsible that we need to keep running. Even some small issues could lead into financial issues. When it comes to finding a job, for our qualification we find a job and we work what had been assigned and assure of the regular earning. This is the difference why people prefer finding a job than inventing it.

        -  Me too; inventing a job is naturally beautiful because, of course, we have more time for that. And we have more control over the business we want to do. Rather than finding a job where other people will control our time and benefit from the skills we have,

Although I am not saying that finding a job is bad, if we dream big for our future, I think that finding a job will not give us the dreams we want in life. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Tony116 on December 01, 2023, 08:53:01 AM
It is good to invent a job. Not everyone have the mind to do it, thinking the risk. When we invent job we're more responsible that we need to keep running. Even some small issues could lead into financial issues. When it comes to finding a job, for our qualification we find a job and we work what had been assigned and assure of the regular earning. This is the difference why people prefer finding a job than inventing it.

        -  Me too; inventing a job is naturally beautiful because, of course, we have more time for that. And we have more control over the business we want to do. Rather than finding a job where other people will control our time and benefit from the skills we have,

Although I am not saying that finding a job is bad, if we dream big for our future, I think that finding a job will not give us the dreams we want in life. Just a thought.

Everyone knows that starting a business and doing business always brings a better future for us, but the problem is that doing business is never easy and not too many people succeed with that choice. That's why many people accept working for others rather than doing business for themselves.

I believe that if we do a survey on this issue, people will choose to invent a job rather than finding a job. But in reality, they will have different choices because they know that doing business is never easy. It's easier said than done, and theory is simpler than practice.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on December 01, 2023, 09:12:20 AM
Everyone knows that starting a business and doing business always brings a better future for us, but the problem is that doing business is never easy and not too many people succeed with that choice. That's why many people accept working for others rather than doing business for themselves.

I believe that if we do a survey on this issue, people will choose to invent a job rather than finding a job. But in reality, they will have different choices because they know that doing business is never easy. It's easier said than done, and theory is simpler than practice.
That's true and that is a strong reason for people who prefer looking for work rather than making their own work (doing business) plus doing business has high risks and you have to start using capital, not everyone has the capital to do business.
I will not blame people who prefer looking for work rather than doing business because sometimes business is done by opportunity and not everyone has the opportunity and opportunity to do business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: YOSHIE on December 01, 2023, 01:35:46 PM
Which one is better based on your experience?
O: Inventing a job
O: Finding a job
Creating is better than seeking, this is exactly the same as Bitcoin, which is better, the creator or the buyer, clearly the creator is more perfect, the creator can control everything that is created, while the worker can only wait for directions from the creator.

Just imagine if you were one of the company owners, obviously you could control everything, starting from the economy, employees and so on, while the economic work you get is limited, it has been determined by the top, not by the creator, he has an important role in everything.

The point is: this is what is better, (Inventing a job) is appreciated and respected, what's more, the business he created is growing, as are the employees, he can help thousands of people, because of the business he created.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Hypnosis00 on December 01, 2023, 01:53:00 PM
Running a business is one way of helping others as it creates jobs for the job seekers. That is why we should be thankful to those who have a mindset of running a business as this will give us the chance for everyone to get a job and feed themselves and their family. Well, business owners seem getting more money but we should not be jealous about that because without them, many people are jobless and are on the street rooming around.

And the world has this - job creators and job seekers. Rich and Poor...


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: terrific on December 01, 2023, 01:58:50 PM
Some people are good for just providing service and finding a job that's regular and permanent. While those inventors of job are helpful as they make more employment. Not everyone can be a boss and not everyone remains to be an employee.
There's a balance on everything but if you're the inventor type, then you're helping people to get employed and that's like a work that you can be proud of.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: boty on December 01, 2023, 02:08:18 PM
Taking on work and business supports the stability of our economy, but sometimes the business we are involved in cannot be maximized like if we worked full time as entrepreneurs, but this is not a problem, because our economy is safe. However, there are also people who dare to take the risk of leaving their jobs and entering the business sector, they believe that there must be a way to glory. On the other hand, setting aside income to invest would be better as additional capital for the next few years
Doing work can indeed make us more stable in terms of economic conditions. If we choose to build a business, of course we have to have careful planning and also need a large amount of capital, but it is not certain that the business we build will run well. It takes time to be successful. developing well, there are some people who are impatient with the process so they choose to stop and not continue it anymore so that they only incur losses from the business they have built.
For some people who work and have a fixed income, this can certainly make them have savings that they can save to make investments.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Juse14 on December 01, 2023, 02:23:32 PM
Looking for a job and getting a decent job according to our abilities is something that is difficult for us to get. Moreover, creating a field through the business that we build. it is the most difficult thing for us to get.

And if we just talk nonsense, everything seems easy. But in practice it's all really hard to get, get a decent job or create a job.

Prestige is too high, this is what makes it difficult for someone to get a good job for him, because he keeps choosing and choosing jobs and until finally he lives as unemployed. Likewise in the business world, if we are only concerned with personal ego then whatever business we start will never succeed.

If I have to choose to be a worker or someone who is able to create jobs, then I will choose to be someone who is able to create jobs, even though the business I started is fairly small. Because in the business world, no matter how small your business is, you are still the boss, while in the world of work, no matter how high your responsibility is in the company, you are still a worker.



Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: gabbie2010 on December 01, 2023, 06:00:48 PM
Inventing a job particularly the job that would solve a societal demand or problem, definitely the inventor of that job would earn well compared to a person looking for jobs the inventor of the job would enjoy a massive patronage particularly if the job the person invented is an essential business or job, in the case of expansion the inventor would employ some hands for the job thus creating employment opportunities for them, working for a job would have so many conditions attached to it especially payment is at fix rate unlike a job inventor who can be contracted with juicy contract with just few of those contract the inventor would have earned massive pay with


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: redsun114 on December 01, 2023, 06:29:03 PM
By inventing a job, you mean starting a business, right? I don't think that a person in their right senses would choose a job over their personal business if they had the option to choose between the two of them because having your own business means being self-employed and having your own boss, which indirectly means freedom of some sort because you are not answerable to anyone for anything you do or want to do, you are not obliged to follow a certain time table or be extremely punctual or you will get pay cuts, there are plenty of pros among a few cons of owning a business.

People choose to find and do jobs because they don't have the required resources to start their own business, because it requires a budget and proper planning and everything, otherwise, no one would opt-in to have jobs if they could start their businesses and be their own boss and live their lives on their own rules.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: ndutndut on December 01, 2023, 06:42:47 PM
It is good to invent a job. Not everyone have the mind to do it, thinking the risk. When we invent job we're more responsible that we need to keep running. Even some small issues could lead into financial issues. When it comes to finding a job, for our qualification we find a job and we work what had been assigned and assure of the regular earning. This is the difference why people prefer finding a job than inventing it.
Both have their own advantages and disadvantages, creating a job apart from having risks, we also have to have knowledge and capital, our job search will be regulated by our superiors and of course we have tremendous pressure from work. Looking for work is dizzy and monotonous. If we create work that is not monotonous because we have some kind of challenge. That's me, because I was once an employee and now I've changed my mind to run a business even though the business is still small.

In essence, creating jobs and looking for jobs both balance the world economy. The important thing is to be sure that our purpose in life is not to waste time. May we all succeed in achieving a prosperous and prosperous life.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Lorence.xD on December 01, 2023, 07:16:44 PM
It is good to invent a job. Not everyone have the mind to do it, thinking the risk. When we invent job we're more responsible that we need to keep running. Even some small issues could lead into financial issues. When it comes to finding a job, for our qualification we find a job and we work what had been assigned and assure of the regular earning. This is the difference why people prefer finding a job than inventing it.
Both have their own advantages and disadvantages, creating a job apart from having risks, we also have to have knowledge and capital, our job search will be regulated by our superiors and of course we have tremendous pressure from work. Looking for work is dizzy and monotonous. If we create work that is not monotonous because we have some kind of challenge. That's me, because I was once an employee and now I've changed my mind to run a business even though the business is still small.

In essence, creating jobs and looking for jobs both balance the world economy. The important thing is to be sure that our purpose in life is not to waste time. May we all succeed in achieving a prosperous and prosperous life.

Well said, just imagine that all of the people tried to make a business and there won't be any employees, which can cause imbalances in the economy. Of course, people have different mindsets, skills, and especially funds to start a business, and that is why some people settle for becoming an employee in a company. There's no such thing as an easy way into the working industry unless you are already born rich with connections and funds. That is why you really have to figure out early what is really for you, and plan ahead for the future like building up your career and building a business, cause this journey won't be easy if you don't have any knowledge or skills bringing with you.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: wmaurik on December 01, 2023, 07:26:37 PM
       -  Me too; inventing a job is naturally beautiful because, of course, we have more time for that. And we have more control over the business we want to do. Rather than finding a job where other people will control our time and benefit from the skills we have,
If faced with a choice like that, I also quite agree with this kind of thing, because wherever we work as long as someone else is the boss. So our time will continue to be controlled by him and the benefits obtained by the boss are also quite clear because he can continue to rely on the expertise we have, but it will be very different if someone opens his own business with full control over it so that whatever decisions he wants to make will be very free because you don't have to wait for orders from other people.

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Although I am not saying that finding a job is bad, if we dream big for our future, I think that finding a job will not give us the dreams we want in life. Just a thought.
When I was still unemployed, I also thought that working for someone else would only help me to live as usual and there would be no greater development in my life. But because at that time I didn't have the capital to open my own business, I was also forced to continue working for other people in order to save for my own future and live more comfortably.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: erep on December 01, 2023, 08:43:29 PM
When I was still unemployed, I also thought that working for someone else would only help me to live as usual and there would be no greater development in my life. But because at that time I didn't have the capital to open my own business, I was also forced to continue working for other people in order to save for my own future and live more comfortably.
Working as an employee is only enough to meet monthly needs but there are not enough funds for savings, our economic impact will not increase because you can calculate that your annual income will not increase even if you get other incentives. However, we have to survive in that situation before having capital to open your own business, you have to increase your knowledge to learn financial management in current businesses and when you are ready to start a career in your own business, then you can consider using loan funds to open your own business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on December 02, 2023, 12:42:57 AM
So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

Always, working for yourself (inventing a job) is better than working for someone else (looking for a job). If you can pass through the stages of developing a job that you can call your own then you're closer to making that business a success. Been self employed isn't easy but after successfully launching your business and making it to stand, you'll see the benefits of owning a business because you're your own boss and nobody get to tell you when you get to come to work or close from what.

You get the chance to pay yourself and give yourself vacation break that you deserve for your hardwork. Basically you get to treat others the way you wanted your boss to treat you, that's why being your own boss is important than working for someone else. Inventing a job isn't something everybody can do so I don't blame people relying on working for others. Even after you invent your own job, you'll still need workers at some point of the company's lifespan especially after making it into a big brand, you'll need employees and that's why those that can't invent their own jobs comes in handy.

Both inventing and looking for jobs works hand in hand, they both are needed for the society to function but if you can develop yourself into been a business owner, it'll be more beneficial to you then living your whole life working for others. It doesn't matter how small the business is, start it today and you'll be surprised how far it'll go in the future. Most businesses started as a small enterprise but later became a multi million dollars company.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: junder on December 02, 2023, 01:50:18 AM
When I was still unemployed, I also thought that working for someone else would only help me to live as usual and there would be no greater development in my life. But because at that time I didn't have the capital to open my own business, I was also forced to continue working for other people in order to save for my own future and live more comfortably.
Working as an employee is only enough to meet monthly needs but there are not enough funds for savings, our economic impact will not increase because you can calculate that your annual income will not increase even if you get other incentives. However, we have to survive in that situation before having capital to open your own business, you have to increase your knowledge to learn financial management in current businesses and when you are ready to start a career in your own business, then you can consider using loan funds to open your own business.

I think working as an employee can also be done by setting aside a little money from the results of work and saving it, it might be difficult too but I think they can do it, if their work can only meet their monthly needs, I don't think there will be any change unless it's a miracle. So I think however,  if they want to start their own business they have to be able to manage everything well and also be able to manage the finances they get, as I said by setting aside a little money to save, because otherwise I don't think anything will change. they do, especially to start a business. If they still can't, they have to have a side job to increase their income and that is also if they want to change what they do, because it is impossible to continue working as an employee who can only meet their monthly needs, of course they want a change such as starting a business. and opening a business, if they only rely on a job that can only meet their monthly needs, I think it will be difficult to start a business or enterprise.  So they have to find a solution to generate more income to save.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: cafter on December 02, 2023, 05:21:58 AM
Successfully inventing a job is very beneficial financially but comes with huge risk of losing all you have or all you have invested in it. it requires capital investment, time investment, handwork, stress, etc.
it's not quick earning way, instead working at a good company and building trust is Benefield for that company and their employee.
also not everyone can start a successful business it requires skill and experience.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Silberman on December 02, 2023, 07:21:35 AM
Successfully inventing a job is very beneficial financially but comes with huge risk of losing all you have or all you have invested in it. it requires capital investment, time investment, handwork, stress, etc.
it's not quick earning way, instead working at a good company and building trust is Benefield for that company and their employee.
also not everyone can start a successful business it requires skill and experience.
Besides not everyone has the desire to become their own boss or to start their own business despite all the advantages that such endeavor may give them, and when it comes to people like that they cannot really force themselves to become something they are not, because if they tried you can be sure they will have no chance to succeed at all, as starting your own business and becoming your own boss can be very difficult as it is a journey that is full of obstacles.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: pusaka on December 02, 2023, 07:41:03 AM
Successfully inventing a job is very beneficial financially but comes with huge risk of losing all you have or all you have invested in it. it requires capital investment, time investment, handwork, stress, etc.
it's not quick earning way, instead working at a good company and building trust is Benefield for that company and their employee.
also not everyone can start a successful business it requires skill and experience.
Besides not everyone has the desire to become their own boss or to start their own business despite all the advantages that such endeavor may give them, and when it comes to people like that they cannot really force themselves to become something they are not, because if they tried you can be sure they will have no chance to succeed at all, as starting your own business and becoming your own boss can be very difficult as it is a journey that is full of obstacles.
Well actually fears like this must be removed from our mindset, because in my opinion everyone has the opportunity to have their own business and be their own boss, whether the business is small or large.
In my opinion, our mentality or mindset has been set to become workers instead of creating jobs, and indeed I felt that when I was still in education. Most of my friends, they only focus on finding jobs, not creating jobs. I don't mean to blame things like this, but I mean why don't we try to explore our abilities to create certain businesses or jobs.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: wajik-tempe on December 02, 2023, 07:53:00 AM
Creating your own route provides liberty and harmony with personal ideals, but it demands major commitment and is fraught with pitfalls. Finding a job, on the other hand, gives financial security without the need for personal asset investments, but the competitive job market requires certain skills and expertise.
According to my observations, the balance is determined by individual circumstances and risk tolerance. It's a fluid decision impacted by personal goals, abilities, and the ever-changing economic situation.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Rabata on December 02, 2023, 08:14:13 AM
A man must be involved in some economic activity to survive. Here some of them make their employment by establishing their own business and some of them create job opportunities in other companies. But from my point of view a man must devote time to inventing work even though it is hard, there is a great risk involved. However, once established in a business on one's own initiative, there are proper benefits which are not possible through any work done by others. Starting own business is very difficult it's reward is also high. Most people in the world do not have the courage to take the risk of doing such activities. From my point of view, it is important to discover rather than find a job in the beginning.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bayu7adi on December 02, 2023, 08:55:43 AM
It seems like this discussion is a choice between staying in the safe zone or venturing out to find a better one. This debate is always intriguing because each individual has their own wild thoughts. We can sometimes easily change their perception of life, but at other times, it's challenging to influence them. It all really depends on their mindset.

People who enjoy a stable job and are already comfortable with what they do tend to fear failure in a different zone. Yes, the fear of failure is also the fear of success because individuals like this won't explore something new and will stick to their job for a longer time.

Personally, I prefer new things and always explore and choose the job that suits me and, of course, generates more income.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: tjtonmoy on December 02, 2023, 12:43:31 PM
Both inventing and looking for jobs works hand in hand, they both are needed for the society to function but if you can develop yourself into been a business owner, it'll be more beneficial to you then living your whole life working for others. It doesn't matter how small the business is, start it today and you'll be surprised how far it'll go in the future. Most businesses started as a small enterprise but later became a multi million dollars company.
I think inventing a job or to say creating a business and giving yourself an opportunity totally depends on your ability and skill. If you are good at something or you have a hobby, turn it into a business. Businesses only work when you do what you love to do. And on the other hand, if we talk about jobs, you need certain skills and knowledge too.
It depends on what you are good at. People are still working for others and living a normal life. The thing is, they are satisfied with what they are earning and they are mostly happy with it. That's why they try to stick to it. Or they are too afraid to take the risk that comes with starting a new business on their own.
Whatever it is, both of them are opportunities to make a living. Whoever is comfortable with whatever they like, can do it. Do whatever you think is best for you. The only difference is to have freedom and not to have freedom.

~SNIP
That is true. It's an individual preference on what they like to do. People will choose whatever they are comfortable with. Sometimes they choose the opposite one because of situations, but in the end, they eventually lean towards what they are most comfortable with.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bettercrypto on December 02, 2023, 01:34:40 PM
Inventing a job is just like being self employed or being a self CEO than working for another person, usually having a personal business pays more than working for someone because it's an indirect slavery why because the company doesn't pay you up to their 10 percent of the total revenue of the company and why would a reasonable go after working for company instead of building and inventing their own business. What makes most people go after finding job is that they don't have all it takes to invent a business it could be that they have chance or or they needs an urgent money to take fixed out some personal problems and family issues so these sets of people always finds it very hard to go start up a person business. I have actually came across similar topic just that this looks more of well coodinated than the previous I came cross if I am not mistaking.

What you said is right and accurate. The majority of the community here on this platform knows that it is really better to have your own business that will produce income. Everyone wants to have their own business, but the sad part is that not everyone can deal with it. the weight of the problem that can be faced in this situation.

It seems that in having a business, if we want to succeed, we must really be strong because the battle is strengthened and strengthened. The one who gives up loses; that's just the ecosystem in the business industry.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Tony116 on December 02, 2023, 01:35:18 PM
Everyone knows that starting a business and doing business always brings a better future for us, but the problem is that doing business is never easy and not too many people succeed with that choice. That's why many people accept working for others rather than doing business for themselves.

I believe that if we do a survey on this issue, people will choose to invent a job rather than finding a job. But in reality, they will have different choices because they know that doing business is never easy. It's easier said than done, and theory is simpler than practice.
That's true and that is a strong reason for people who prefer looking for work rather than making their own work (doing business) plus doing business has high risks and you have to start using capital, not everyone has the capital to do business.
I will not blame people who prefer looking for work rather than doing business because sometimes business is done by opportunity and not everyone has the opportunity and opportunity to do business.
There is no reason to blame people who prefer looking for a job rather than doing business. I even advise everyone, especially new graduates, to work as an employee as much as possible. That is very beneficial for them later, working for others is also a way to gain experience for themselves. Don't always think that only businesses can succeed and employees will never have a chance to succeed.

Like everyone discussing here, I dare to ask a question: is anyone running their own business and being successful, or is it just talk but never done because we all know business is not easy.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on December 02, 2023, 03:31:59 PM
Everyone knows that starting a business and doing business always brings a better future for us, but the problem is that doing business is never easy and not too many people succeed with that choice. That's why many people accept working for others rather than doing business for themselves.

I believe that if we do a survey on this issue, people will choose to invent a job rather than finding a job. But in reality, they will have different choices because they know that doing business is never easy. It's easier said than done, and theory is simpler than practice.
That's true and that is a strong reason for people who prefer looking for work rather than making their own work (doing business) plus doing business has high risks and you have to start using capital, not everyone has the capital to do business.
I will not blame people who prefer looking for work rather than doing business because sometimes business is done by opportunity and not everyone has the opportunity and opportunity to do business.
There is no reason to blame people who prefer looking for a job rather than doing business. I even advise everyone, especially new graduates, to work as an employee as much as possible. That is very beneficial for them later, working for others is also a way to gain experience for themselves. Don't always think that only businesses can succeed and employees will never have a chance to succeed.

Like everyone discussing here, I dare to ask a question: is anyone running their own business and being successful, or is it just talk but never done because we all know business is not easy.
That's true. Even with having a degree in entrepreneurship, you still need to work to gain experience. Experience in different fields will make you a better person in terms of how you manage your work, how you handle yourself in different situations and how you behave with different people you work with.

Aside from that, some people prefer to have a stable job than do business, why? Because they are more confident with their skill and don't want to think of how they will start it. Some might be afraid of failure that's why they focus more on the line of work where they are confident and can show their skills at work.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Lorence.xD on December 02, 2023, 04:38:57 PM
Everyone knows that starting a business and doing business always brings a better future for us, but the problem is that doing business is never easy and not too many people succeed with that choice. That's why many people accept working for others rather than doing business for themselves.

I believe that if we do a survey on this issue, people will choose to invent a job rather than finding a job. But in reality, they will have different choices because they know that doing business is never easy. It's easier said than done, and theory is simpler than practice.
That's true and that is a strong reason for people who prefer looking for work rather than making their own work (doing business) plus doing business has high risks and you have to start using capital, not everyone has the capital to do business.
I will not blame people who prefer looking for work rather than doing business because sometimes business is done by opportunity and not everyone has the opportunity and opportunity to do business.
There is no reason to blame people who prefer looking for a job rather than doing business. I even advise everyone, especially new graduates, to work as an employee as much as possible. That is very beneficial for them later, working for others is also a way to gain experience for themselves. Don't always think that only businesses can succeed and employees will never have a chance to succeed.

Like everyone discussing here, I dare to ask a question: is anyone running their own business and being successful, or is it just talk but never done because we all know business is not easy.
That's true. Even with having a degree in entrepreneurship, you still need to work to gain experience. Experience in different fields will make you a better person in terms of how you manage your work, how you handle yourself in different situations and how you behave with different people you work with.

Aside from that, some people prefer to have a stable job than do business, why? Because they are more confident with their skill and don't want to think of how they will start it. Some might be afraid of failure that's why they focus more on the line of work where they are confident and can show their skills at work.

Knowledge without experience is such a waste, as you do not know how to implement your knowledge and skills cause you haven't done it in the actual work industry. Companies much prefer to hire people who have a lot of experience in the work industry, cause they know that they are much more exposed to the things you have to deal with in work like stress, pressure, etc since they know that they can handle those problems. Now, people much prefer to find a stable job and work under someone else, why? cause I think people prefer to play safe by simply letting someone judge their skills and knowledge, then having a wrong judgment by making your own business, I mean that's actually fine cause there's literally risk in everything you would just need to find what suits for you.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: MFahad on December 02, 2023, 06:32:23 PM
That's true and that is a strong reason for people who prefer looking for work rather than making their own work (doing business) plus doing business has high risks and you have to start using capital, not everyone has the capital to do business.
I will not blame people who prefer looking for work rather than doing business because sometimes business is done by opportunity and not everyone has the opportunity and opportunity to do business.

Yes everyone does not have opportunity to start business but they should work for getting such opportunity because there is nothing in universe that is impossible to do. Getting job is more desirable opportunity because with job one can proceed with his business and can achieve better earning prospective than a single job or single business.

Business has some risk but everyone can understand that more the threat so increase will be payback therefore don't stop doing business just because of risk. Now a days one cannot get job easily therefore if you find a job stay in that job and and if you find a business opportunity then continue both as dual income can support family better.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Suzume on December 04, 2023, 06:45:12 PM
Yep I thik if you have enough money then you must investment not look for jobs. Because nowdays its hard to find good job after doing studies. If somehow you find a job then that don't give you enough salary according to your qualifications. If you have knowledge and enough money to invest then I prefer you to go for investment. Because investment will take time but it is more freedom and it can give you more money then job's.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: ndutndut on December 04, 2023, 07:05:25 PM
Working as an employee is only enough to meet monthly needs but there are not enough funds for savings, our economic impact will not increase because you can calculate that your annual income will not increase even if you get other incentives. However, we have to survive in that situation before having capital to open your own business, you have to increase your knowledge to learn financial management in current businesses and when you are ready to start a career in your own business, then you can consider using loan funds to open your own business.
In my opinion, I really believe in talent. In my opinion, business people have talents that other people cannot have. For example, people who own a business have a far-sighted vision, meaning they can see the future very far away. So it is very risky in doing business using loan funds even though you have studied business knowledge, because for me knowledge alone is not important for success in business, but we must have experience and mentality.

Many business people who have been successful initially experienced problems and even losses, that's where patience and mentality are at stake, if you're not strong it's better to just be an employee, because actually both are good. As long as we are smart in managing finances so we can save and invest.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Yatsan on December 04, 2023, 07:18:26 PM
Yep I thik if you have enough money then you must investment not look for jobs. Because nowdays its hard to find good job after doing studies. If somehow you find a job then that don't give you enough salary according to your qualifications. If you have knowledge and enough money to invest then I prefer you to go for investment. Because investment will take time but it is more freedom and it can give you more money then job's.
Problem is that not all people has the financial capacity to invest and start their business perhaps. Also starting a business won't assure profit. Personally I own businesses and I also have experienced working as an employee. Both has its advantages; being a business owner could give you "skies the limit" salary however you have to find ways to attain that and that won't be cheap as well 'coz it will include trial and errors, time and more. Being an employee on the other hand might give you limited salary but at least you will be only performing particular tasks and won't worry about the company's sustainability; as long as you are working then you will just be paid. Now, it is a matter of preference and capability whether which setting would work better on your end.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Bitstar_coin on December 04, 2023, 07:36:26 PM
Yes, inventing a job is better than finding one but that requires a long time of dedication, commitment, and toiling night and day to stand on your feet.
Working as an employee is not easy because of numerous rules, regulations, and restrictions that don't make the working experience smooth.
Being able to invent and create your ideas is great and gives you a hedge over others and if you have the funds to back your ideas makes it even better.  As a result of the high rate of unemployment, people try to be more creative and come up with ideas to compensate for the lack of white-collar jobs.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bitgolden on December 05, 2023, 05:53:23 PM
To explain it a bit more, inventing a job means doing something on your own and creating an opportunity for yourself. This could also include creating opportunities for others too. Those who invent their own jobs can design positions that are in line with their particular skills, interests, and values. This gives them a sense of fulfilment and autonomy that may not be available in traditional employment options.
But it brings risks. In order to create or invent a job, you need investment. Each and every investment comes with risks and this is no different.
Of course finding a job, why do people think that they are the main character of a movie, why do you think that you will invent a job and then make sure that you get paid a lot of money with it? I have seen plenty of those people when AI thingy got famous too, I could have made a great killing if I really wanted to, just focus my entire 15 hour day into AI and make a product with AI in it and sell, it would have been as simple as that, why didn't I? Because I prefer to find a job not invent one.

We are living in a world of 8 billion people, do you really think all 8 billion could invent a job? It proves my point that majority of the world, and I mean over 7+ billion of those people, will find a job, and I am fine being one of those people. I have a lovely boss that I admire a lot, I have a job that is never boring, I have a life that is comfortable thanks to the money I make from this job, why I want to do something that would be putting all that into risk?


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: wmaurik on December 06, 2023, 11:30:51 AM
Working as an employee is only enough to meet monthly needs but there are not enough funds for savings, our economic impact will not increase because you can calculate that your annual income will not increase even if you get other incentives. However, we have to survive in that situation before having capital to open your own business, you have to increase your knowledge to learn financial management in current businesses and when you are ready to start a career in your own business, then you can consider using loan funds to open your own business.
So far, I have also considered opening my own business with existing capital, but currently I am still comfortable enough to remain an employee. My own business planning is still not completely finished, even though I have arranged some of it very neatly so that when I do it later I won't have so many obstacles because I still haven't thought about taking out loan funds to open my own business. But I still prefer to use my own funds even though the business is not too big, but as long as it can be sufficient to run, I will do it happily.

I think working as an employee can also be done by setting aside a little money from the results of work and saving it, it might be difficult too but I think they can do it, if their work can only meet their monthly needs, I don't think there will be any change unless it's a miracle. So I think however,  if they want to start their own business they have to be able to manage everything well and also be able to manage the finances they get, as I said by setting aside a little money to save, because otherwise I don't think anything will change. they do, especially to start a business. If they still can't, they have to have a side job to increase their income and that is also if they want to change what they do, because it is impossible to continue working as an employee who can only meet their monthly needs, of course they want a change such as starting a business. and opening a business, if they only rely on a job that can only meet their monthly needs, I think it will be difficult to start a business or enterprise.  So they have to find a solution to generate more income to save.
I've also thought like that for a long time even though I'm still working as someone else's employee, but now I've also started thinking about opening my own business because as you said, it won't be possible to work by just relying on a monthly income that never increases and never makes a change in life except just to delay hunger. So there is no other choice but to continue working as usual and open my own business so that there are two ways of income that I can get to make big changes in my own life, because I still don't want to leave my monthly income from working at someone else's place even though I I'm also thinking about creating a new job through my own business someday.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: DeathAngel on December 06, 2023, 11:50:31 AM
In the current financial climate it’s better to find a job rather than creating one. This is because the economic uncertainty & market volatility make it challenging for new businesses to thrive. Finding a job provides more stability & a steady income which is crucial during uncertain times. Entrepreneurship can still be pursued if you have a unique & viable business idea, sufficient financial resources & a thorough understanding of the market conditions. The decision depends on your individual circumstances & risk tolerance.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Qiubell5 on December 06, 2023, 12:11:03 PM
If a student has graduated from college and immediately starts a job or opens a business, I personally think it will be more difficult than looking for a job. Even though scientifically, college students definitely have it (in their respective majors). But still, their experience can be said to be zero.
Therefore, looking for a job first would be more suitable as a first step for a student who has just graduated from college. Because that way, they will definitely gain experience in the workplace and when they are ready, this experience will be a good provision for building their business or job.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Accardo on December 06, 2023, 01:56:54 PM
In the current financial climate it’s better to find a job rather than creating one. This is because the economic uncertainty & market volatility make it challenging for new businesses to thrive. Finding a job provides more stability & a steady income which is crucial during uncertain times. Entrepreneurship can still be pursued if you have a unique & viable business idea, sufficient financial resources & a thorough understanding of the market conditions. The decision depends on your individual circumstances & risk tolerance.
Running a business is quite difficult, but it's rewarding to manage a successful business. Many people pass through hard days; thick and thin to successfully achieve their dreams and goals. Long hours of creative and critical thinking, trial and error made many entrepreneurs forfeit their dreams seeking the promising job security of working for somebody else. Which provides them, with weekly, monthly, or annual income to sustain their livelihood. It still doesn't mean that employees do not struggle financially. The high number of unemployment in societies has convinced employees who are underemployed, underpaid, or work in an unconducive working environment to remain calm and claim all is moving fine in the cooperate world. The economic crisis hits hard on the business owners and employees suffer it the most, they get owed by their bosses. Companies borrow money and employees also borrow to survive. Both ways have disadvantages and advantages. However, the scalability of being a boss contributes to financial freedom. However, some business owners run broke with no means of paying back or reviving their fallen business.

Although, some employees earn good salaries, but still fight for a pay increase. They work every day and rest for a few days, only have a month for vacation. Unlike a successful business owner who can easily decide when to visit his office or how long he'll spend on a vacation. Big businesses or companies still offer their CEOs some sleepless nights, but not like the employees, who may work extra hours to meet their goals. In the case of a sole proprietor, with no employees, he can manage his business the way he wants, but the whole risk depends on him. It depends on the career part one needs to follow. Working for someone else is like offering our skills and experiences to the company. And it's quite helpful in advancing in our field, building a stronger network of business-like minds. Some employees in one company can earn more than a boss in a different company. But, one thing that separates a boss and such an employee, is future business advances. The business owner in a few years can either skyrocket his earnings or fail while the employee can easily lose their jobs, and whatever money they've made through the company disappears.

In making money, everyone loses money if their source of income gets worn out. Earning a huge amount of money can take longer years for an employee than a business owner. Here, I'm comparing a well-earned employee in a different company to a lesser-earning boss running his own company. You'd notice that the differences between an employee and a business owner aren't much to an extent. But generally speaking, the boss makes more money and free time and can retire at any moment. Unlike an employee who works with the companies' orders and instructions, until he gets to retirement age, and then relies on a pension. In a nutshell, what matters, whoever, we are or the position we hold in any company. It's important to provide good services. Then, have a vision to grow in our field. If you notice in my explanation, employees differ according to how they offer their services in the company they work. Experiencing a good time and salaries in the well conducive company is better than setting up a business that'll fail or render the owner bankrupt. One thing is certain, an employee can't earn more than his boss does in the same company. A hacker who works for Facebook can earn more than a boss who runs an offline business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: icalical on December 06, 2023, 02:34:39 PM
I do agree that inventing / creating job giving much more impact to society, and it generally better. But not everyone has the privilege to start a business. Tho most people will say that starting a business can use minimum resources, but it still required time, trial and error, and most of the time it will end up in failure. And most people can't afford failure, they only had one chance and they couldn't spend it a fail business, these people has no choice they need to make money as quick as possible, their only choice is to get a job that give them stable income.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Dunamisx on December 06, 2023, 03:24:39 PM
People were tired of finding jobs, working under people and getting paid a peanut, instead some will prefer working being self employed and they start this by first sitting down to think about a problem, reason on the possible solution they can offer to that and engage the launch into the market, we don't have to limit our capacity, efforts and mentality or the way we think about what we can offer or deliver, it's better that we start something no matter how small than long years of serving others working for them.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: junder on December 06, 2023, 03:55:04 PM
I think working as an employee can also be done by setting aside a little money from the results of work and saving it, it might be difficult too but I think they can do it, if their work can only meet their monthly needs, I don't think there will be any change unless it's a miracle. So I think however,  if they want to start their own business they have to be able to manage everything well and also be able to manage the finances they get, as I said by setting aside a little money to save, because otherwise I don't think anything will change. they do, especially to start a business. If they still can't, they have to have a side job to increase their income and that is also if they want to change what they do, because it is impossible to continue working as an employee who can only meet their monthly needs, of course they want a change such as starting a business. and opening a business, if they only rely on a job that can only meet their monthly needs, I think it will be difficult to start a business or enterprise.  So they have to find a solution to generate more income to save.
I've also thought like that for a long time even though I'm still working as someone else's employee, but now I've also started thinking about opening my own business because as you said, it won't be possible to work by just relying on a monthly income that never increases and never makes a change in life except just to delay hunger. So there is no other choice but to continue working as usual and open my own business so that there are two ways of income that I can get to make big changes in my own life, because I still don't want to leave my monthly income from working at someone else's place even though I I'm also thinking about creating a new job through my own business someday.

If you already have a decent job, it's better to just keep it, don't leave or quit, even if you don't have other sources of income. It is better to survive first by forcing savings from the monthly income earned, until the income saved is enough to start a business maybe there you can leave your main job, as long as you are sure that the business to be run can develop well and generate profits for yourself, even though the monthly income from the business established is not equivalent to the monthly income of your permanent job it doesn't matter, I don't think it's a bad thing.

By you dare to start a business and leave your main job it is a good step, but it's even better when you start a business directly recruiting employees, so you don't have to quit your main job, it might sound difficult but there's no harm in trying. Whatever you do, if that's what you think is best, I'm all for it because doing business is a good thing.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bounceback on December 06, 2023, 03:57:15 PM
Not much problem for saying investing job is better than finding job for people have much money in their pocket and supported with their parents financial, not all people have good position and get enough money to star investing what ever kinds is it need much capital to start some business investing. I come from with parent have not stable financial condition not agree with your opinion because finding job is the best way than investing without supported good financial. Not all your words is wrong but I need job first and earn much capital keep saving for investing one day later in the future. I can't work all my life and want get rest as soon possible exactly after have stable financial will spent for investing in crypto, property and building business for stopping working all my day life.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: topbitcoin on December 06, 2023, 04:15:20 PM
If a student has graduated from college and immediately starts a job or opens a business, I personally think it will be more difficult than looking for a job. Even though scientifically, college students definitely have it (in their respective majors). But still, their experience can be said to be zero.
Therefore, looking for a job first would be more suitable as a first step for a student who has just graduated from college. Because that way, they will definitely gain experience in the workplace and when they are ready, this experience will be a good provision for building their business or job.

one of the causes of many graduates who are still unemployed and have not found a job to date. the first is because the prestige is too high, while the ability is not qualified. They continue to pick and choose the jobs and companies that they will apply for, and in the end they do not get a job at all.

And secondly, when entering college, there are still many students who have the wrong major. And this can happen, because they register for college not because of a desire to get enough knowledge as their provision. Rather, because they are not yet able to live independently and leave their dependence on their parents, they are not yet able if they have to be exposed to the world of work. So they prefer to go to college, because by studying, their daily needs will be borne by their parents.

So departing from that, then choosing the right college major that suits our desires and abilities becomes very important. Because education during college is the main provision for achieving success, or pursuing a career in the world of work.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Gozie51 on December 06, 2023, 04:23:43 PM
People were tired of finding jobs, working under people and getting paid a peanut, instead some will prefer working being self employed and they start this by first sitting down to think about a problem, reason on the possible solution they can offer to that and engage the launch into the market, we don't have to limit our capacity, efforts and mentality or the way we think about what we can offer or deliver, it's better that we start something no matter how small than long years of serving others working for them.

These days being self employed have proved to be more profitable and fulfilling, at least you have opportunity to create extra time or your own time for yourself. Being self employed lately is really encouraging with the rate of unemployment and waiting for government to provide jobs is an illusion , the jobs that are improvised are not enough to cater for the teaming youth population that come out of school year in year out and you can't compare that to the numbers of old people due for retirement, you see that is part of the problem. Even those due for retirement still want to stay longer because of the salary because they are not sure how their lives will turn out. I think it is better to be creative after coming out of school and become a job creator instead of being a job searcher.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: goldkingcoiner on December 06, 2023, 07:17:19 PM
Looking for problems to solve and helping society by solving them is a much better alternative instead of working 8 hours a day 6 days a week for a cause that might not mean anything, and it will not be directly attributed to your name. But rather its your boss who gets all the credit. But then again that is what a job is. You get paid for letting someone use you like a tool. Whether you are thankful for that or if you have helped society in any way does not matter to your boss.

But inventing something that the world needs is a much harder task than many people imagine.

Suffice it to say, it is not for everyone.



Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Fatunad on December 06, 2023, 07:59:28 PM
If a student has graduated from college and immediately starts a job or opens a business, I personally think it will be more difficult than looking for a job. Even though scientifically, college students definitely have it (in their respective majors). But still, their experience can be said to be zero.
Therefore, looking for a job first would be more suitable as a first step for a student who has just graduated from college. Because that way, they will definitely gain experience in the workplace and when they are ready, this experience will be a good provision for building their business or job.

one of the causes of many graduates who are still unemployed and have not found a job to date. the first is because the prestige is too high, while the ability is not qualified. They continue to pick and choose the jobs and companies that they will apply for, and in the end they do not get a job at all.

And secondly, when entering college, there are still many students who have the wrong major. And this can happen, because they register for college not because of a desire to get enough knowledge as their provision. Rather, because they are not yet able to live independently and leave their dependence on their parents, they are not yet able if they have to be exposed to the world of work. So they prefer to go to college, because by studying, their daily needs will be borne by their parents.

So departing from that, then choosing the right college major that suits our desires and abilities becomes very important. Because education during college is the main provision for achieving success, or pursuing a career in the world of work.
Main reasons.

1. Lack of Job
2. Tough competition
3. Very high standard requirements for a low paying job
4. Laziness of a certain individual
5. Low salary
6. Not easily get hired because of lack of experience

This is why getting some job does really require a little bit of luck for you to be chosen. This is something that part of the reality today and this is something that we cant really be able to avoid.
If you are someone who had just finished your studies then it would be normal that you would be finding or looking for some job and here comes the tough challenge on getting one
and because of those things mentioned aboved then you might be ending up on having no job in the end.

Unemployment % is never been that declining for most countries but rather it is gradually bloating. Some could land a job but majority cannot.
This is why they would really be finding any opportunities that they could possibly be able to find.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: mirakal on December 06, 2023, 11:40:31 PM
Based on my experience, I feel more fulfillment and satisfaction inventing on my own job. The risks are definitely hard to overcome in the beginning, but when you get used to your own job and you feel more satisfied with your compensation, then I see there's no reason anymore to get a real job and get employed.

However, security and stability on my current job is what makes me more worried, unlike if you are employed, your employer will take care of the rest. But I don't see it as a threat but a big challenge on my part, that is maximizing every opportunity that is available and saving and investing my profits to have a stable retirement in the future.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: serjent05 on December 06, 2023, 11:55:24 PM
So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

[NOTE: if this topic has been discussed before then let me know.]

I can't comprehend the term inventing a job.  I can understand creating job opportunities but inventing a job is a new term for me.  Sounds like an activity that needs a lot of research and trial and error things.  Ill take this as creating a job opportunity then.  I think it is better to create a job opportunity for oneself than look for a job given by other companies.

With created job opportunities, we are well aware of the scope and have control over the payment and services.  We hold the treasury and the contract directly to the subscriber or client.  It gives us 100% of the payment than finding a job offered by companies.

But of course, we need experience and records of our job performance so before implementing this kind of strategy(creating our job opportunities), we should make ourselves earn enough experience by finding jobs.  Besides, it is a portfolio building for people who are fresh graduates.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: shinratensei_ on December 07, 2023, 12:32:08 AM
People were tired of finding jobs, working under people and getting paid a peanut, instead some will prefer working being self employed and they start this by first sitting down to think about a problem, reason on the possible solution they can offer to that and engage the launch into the market, we don't have to limit our capacity, efforts and mentality or the way we think about what we can offer or deliver, it's better that we start something no matter how small than long years of serving others working for them.
that arguably also come with many compromises, the first year and second year would be difficult year to go on with the business as im sure that'd be the time where you are spending money instead of earning if you are eager to start some entrepreneurship, every businessman that have opened enough business know that there are no profits for us for the first year thats why big capital is needed to overcome such situation.
and the next year after that would be the year to determine whether our business have place in the market or not and if it doesn't then be ready to lose all the effort and capital we've spent before.
inventing job indeed more beneficial than finding a job but it requires strong will and in my opinion to get the best of both worlds, just find a job until you built the career, got connections and also capital, then start out your own business then that'd be easier.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Y3shot on December 07, 2023, 11:27:58 AM
In the current financial climate it’s better to find a job rather than creating one. This is because the economic uncertainty & market volatility make it challenging for new businesses to thrive. Finding a job provides more stability & a steady income which is crucial during uncertain times. Entrepreneurship can still be pursued if you have a unique & viable business idea, sufficient financial resources & a thorough understanding of the market conditions. The decision depends on your individual circumstances & risk tolerance.
It depends on the kind of business you are talking about, their are some kind of business that one needs to depend on a job to generate money to start up business,  while some other business you just need a job to generate money to start up . Business you can just start without much money are money the ones which you just need to learn hand work.

Not everyone fancy having a job because the money that will becoming from this jobs is  just a fixed amount that one will be earning for  a long time , but creating a job their are good tendency that tge business can grow and expand in money that will be generated as the time counts.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Inwestour on December 07, 2023, 11:46:27 AM
Based on my experience, I feel more fulfillment and satisfaction inventing on my own job. The risks are definitely hard to overcome in the beginning, but when you get used to your own job and you feel more satisfied with your compensation, then I see there's no reason anymore to get a real job and get employed.

However, security and stability on my current job is what makes me more worried, unlike if you are employed, your employer will take care of the rest. But I don't see it as a threat but a big challenge on my part, that is maximizing every opportunity that is available and saving and investing my profits to have a stable retirement in the future.
Hired labor is not only a way to shift responsibility to the employer, it also means more free time outside of working hours, because your own business will require much more of your time and knowledge in different areas.

This choice is not so simple, your business can be successful for several years, but at some point it will become unprofitable, it is not uncommon for a business to fail. When I read an article a long time ago that a highly paid job will always be better than having your own business, and I probably agree with this. Each choice will have positive and negative sides, but if the positive aspects predominate in your choice, then do what makes you most comfortable. There is no single correct choice.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: slapper on December 07, 2023, 12:22:38 PM
People were tired of finding jobs, working under people and getting paid a peanut, instead some will prefer working being self employed and they start this by first sitting down to think about a problem, reason on the possible solution they can offer to that and engage the launch into the market, we don't have to limit our capacity, efforts and mentality or the way we think about what we can offer or deliver, it's better that we start something no matter how small than long years of serving others working for them.
that arguably also come with many compromises, the first year and second year would be difficult year to go on with the business as im sure that'd be the time where you are spending money instead of earning if you are eager to start some entrepreneurship, every businessman that have opened enough business know that there are no profits for us for the first year thats why big capital is needed to overcome such situation.
and the next year after that would be the year to determine whether our business have place in the market or not and if it doesn't then be ready to lose all the effort and capital we've spent before.
inventing job indeed more beneficial than finding a job but it requires strong will and in my opinion to get the best of both worlds, just find a job until you built the career, got connections and also capital, then start out your own business then that'd be easier.
First years are generally cash-burn because we're investing in a concept with no immediate rewards. Like caring for a plant without knowing if it will produce. Let's reverse the script: this phase can spark innovation. We must get inventive with resources and plan carefully. Isn't that thrilling? Our market viability is tested in the second year, the make-or-break year. What if it's a reality check? Not only do you lose money, but you get insights. Every failure teaches great lessons, right? Now, about the job first, business later approach: Safe and sensible. A job provides income, experience, and contacts. Does it also instill risk-aversion? Could it inhibit entrepreneurship? constructing a safety net—are we also constructing mental barriers? The employee-to-entrepreneur move requires a mentality shift and resources. The true problem may be starting with the appropriate mindset, regardless of the path. How do we mix caution with courage, practicality and passion?


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: angrybirdy on December 07, 2023, 12:43:54 PM
If a student has graduated from college and immediately starts a job or opens a business, I personally think it will be more difficult than looking for a job. Even though scientifically, college students definitely have it (in their respective majors). But still, their experience can be said to be zero.
Therefore, looking for a job first would be more suitable as a first step for a student who has just graduated from college. Because that way, they will definitely gain experience in the workplace and when they are ready, this experience will be a good provision for building their business or job.
And that's what other fresh graduates doing, looking for a job from a good and well know companies to gain experiences and to enhance their knowledges about the specific task so that if the time will come that they want to build their own business, they can apply all the things they learned from working. Even those rich students who has a capability building their own business right after the graduation still choose to apply for a work, unless they have build already their own businesses or they are heir in their family business. Whatever it is, I can say that you can handle well your own business if you have a lot of work/life experiences.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: nara1892 on December 07, 2023, 01:25:57 PM
If a student has graduated from college and immediately starts a job or opens a business, I personally think it will be more difficult than looking for a job. Even though scientifically, college students definitely have it (in their respective majors). But still, their experience can be said to be zero.
Therefore, looking for a job first would be more suitable as a first step for a student who has just graduated from college. Because that way, they will definitely gain experience in the workplace and when they are ready, this experience will be a good provision for building their business or job.
And that's what other fresh graduates doing, looking for a job from a good and well know companies to gain experiences and to enhance their knowledges about the specific task so that if the time will come that they want to build their own business, they can apply all the things they learned from working. Even those rich students who has a capability building their own business right after the graduation still choose to apply for a work, unless they have build already their own businesses or they are heir in their family business. Whatever it is, I can say that you can handle well your own business if you have a lot of work/life experiences.

Everything will look like easy and will work if we want to do it, you can look for knowledge or references from anywhere and it depends on your needs. What you're describing is one of the most effective ways that people who are now successful in their lives have always used, not entirely successful but most of them get something that can make their lives better. I often hear the words of some great teachers that "take advantage of the situation and absorb the knowledge" meaning that we must really be able to take advantage of all the opportunities that come, as you say take as much knowledge as possible when we are working in a company that is good enough of course that can give us new things that are positive and that have benefits.

Do not let you go out empty-handed, like spending a lot of time in school but when you graduate you don't get any lessons then it will be in vain, you will not get a good impact that is useful for the future. Likewise in terms of work, we must be serious in working so that we can gain experience to be used as a provision that will be very useful when you want to build your own business in the same field. Because in terms of business it is not only money that needs to be prepared but more importantly experience that will be able to make you build good planning and management in your business, it's useless if you have a lot of money but don't know how to manage a business, it will end in vain and failure.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Lamkuthang on December 07, 2023, 01:46:08 PM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing. People are running out of options and opportunities. In this world the situation we are in right now, which one should you choose or have chosen? Both options have their pros and cons. I want to know from your experience, which one is better than the other. Are you satisfied with the path that you have chosen or do you have any regrets about it?

So, this is where you need to educate yourself by having small skills, but specifically, at least you have the talent/skill for manual work and it is always needed by other people. For example, become an electrical installer or if you don't go there, look for a small business where the main thing you sell is daily necessities.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: topbitcoin on December 07, 2023, 04:18:04 PM
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Main reasons.

1. Lack of Job
2. Tough competition
3. Very high standard requirements for a low paying job
4. Laziness of a certain individual
5. Low salary
6. Not easily get hired because of lack of experience

This is why getting some job does really require a little bit of luck for you to be chosen. This is something that part of the reality today and this is something that we cant really be able to avoid.
If you are someone who had just finished your studies then it would be normal that you would be finding or looking for some job and here comes the tough challenge on getting one
and because of those things mentioned aboved then you might be ending up on having no job in the end.

Unemployment % is never been that declining for most countries but rather it is gradually bloating. Some could land a job but majority cannot.
This is why they would really be finding any opportunities that they could possibly be able to find.

Take it easy... because if you have money and are an insider, getting a job is not difficult. That's what happened in my place. One can easily get a job just by giving some money to an insider. Even this has become a very common thing and the people who play in it do not hesitate to set a price, so that someone can be accepted to work in a company. even to become a factory employee, they have to bribe with a sum of money that is approximately equal to the employee's salary for one month. So when there is someone who wants to become a factory employee, then he must give up one month's salary that he gets while working.

And what's worse, man..... besides the acts of corruption that often occur in the employee recruitment process, there are also irresponsible people who try to take advantage of this opportunity to deceive job applicants. Where the person claims to be someone who has an important position in a factory or company, then he tries to commit a crime of fraud by offering applicants a fast track to work, on condition that they give a certain amount of money. But in reality he really can't guarantee that the person's job application will be accepted.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Unbunplease on December 07, 2023, 04:30:18 PM

Take it easy... because if you have money and are an insider, getting a job is not difficult. That's what happened in my place. One can easily get a job just by giving some money to an insider. Even this has become a very common thing and the people who play in it do not hesitate to set a price, so that someone can be accepted to work in a company. even to become a factory employee, they have to bribe with a sum of money that is approximately equal to the employee's salary for one month. So when there is someone who wants to become a factory employee, then he must give up one month's salary that he gets while working.

And what's worse, man..... besides the acts of corruption that often occur in the employee recruitment process, there are also irresponsible people who try to take advantage of this opportunity to deceive job applicants. Where the person claims to be someone who has an important position in a factory or company, then he tries to commit a crime of fraud by offering applicants a fast track to work, on condition that they give a certain amount of money. But in reality he really can't guarantee that the person's job application will be accepted.

Here, of course, everything depends on the honesty of the intermediary and how much he cares about his reputation. An employer benefits from having a qualified, conflict-free employee come to him, and such people can be attracted mainly by recommendation. If a recommender wants to earn his interest, he must correctly assess the employer's needs and be honest with applicants


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: m2017 on December 07, 2023, 05:04:31 PM
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If you look at those around you, the majority choose “finding a job”. This is simpler and easier to implement, there is stability and regularity, and also, all responsibility and risks are assigned to the employer. But the significant disadvantage is that the final (total) reward is less if you “inventing a job”. And the main problem with “inventing a job” is that only a few can do it (it requires the necessary skills, abilities, natural inclinations and talents, and most importantly, luck), just as very few achieve success. There are many cases around when attempts to “inventing a job” ended in failure and unprofitability, up to bankruptcy, loans and debts. In this case, it is better to “finding a job” if your “inventing a job” leads to a worse financial situation than if your choice was “finding a job”.

It is obvious to everyone that there is no universal answer when choosing between these options. But I would like to focus on the fact that even for each individual person, at different periods of life, this choice can shift from “finding a job” to “inventing a job” (in different directions).


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: $crypto$ on December 07, 2023, 05:34:18 PM

Take it easy... because if you have money and are an insider, getting a job is not difficult. That's what happened in my place. One can easily get a job just by giving some money to an insider. Even this has become a very common thing and the people who play in it do not hesitate to set a price, so that someone can be accepted to work in a company. even to become a factory employee, they have to bribe with a sum of money that is approximately equal to the employee's salary for one month. So when there is someone who wants to become a factory employee, then he must give up one month's salary that he gets while working.

And what's worse, man..... besides the acts of corruption that often occur in the employee recruitment process, there are also irresponsible people who try to take advantage of this opportunity to deceive job applicants. Where the person claims to be someone who has an important position in a factory or company, then he tries to commit a crime of fraud by offering applicants a fast track to work, on condition that they give a certain amount of money. But in reality he really can't guarantee that the person's job application will be accepted.

Here, of course, everything depends on the honesty of the intermediary and how much he cares about his reputation. An employer benefits from having a qualified, conflict-free employee come to him, and such people can be attracted mainly by recommendation. If a recommender wants to earn his interest, he must correctly assess the employer's needs and be honest with applicants
In everything there will definitely be irresponsible people, especially if the person has connections with officials or someone who has a high position in the company, of course it will be freer for them to do things that are actually very disgusting.

Just imagine when there are people who want to get a job to get money, they actually have to spend money first. I understand that in order to get money, something has to be sacrificed including spending money, but from your story it is tantamount to illegal actions and far from the rules and policies of a company.
However, it must be recognized that a high position and money will become something powerful, even though it is wrong.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Lanatsa on December 07, 2023, 05:59:54 PM

Take it easy... because if you have money and are an insider, getting a job is not difficult. That's what happened in my place. One can easily get a job just by giving some money to an insider. Even this has become a very common thing and the people who play in it do not hesitate to set a price, so that someone can be accepted to work in a company. even to become a factory employee, they have to bribe with a sum of money that is approximately equal to the employee's salary for one month. So when there is someone who wants to become a factory employee, then he must give up one month's salary that he gets while working.

And what's worse, man..... besides the acts of corruption that often occur in the employee recruitment process, there are also irresponsible people who try to take advantage of this opportunity to deceive job applicants. Where the person claims to be someone who has an important position in a factory or company, then he tries to commit a crime of fraud by offering applicants a fast track to work, on condition that they give a certain amount of money. But in reality he really can't guarantee that the person's job application will be accepted.

Here, of course, everything depends on the honesty of the intermediary and how much he cares about his reputation. An employer benefits from having a qualified, conflict-free employee come to him, and such people can be attracted mainly by recommendation. If a recommender wants to earn his interest, he must correctly assess the employer's needs and be honest with applicants
In everything there will definitely be irresponsible people, especially if the person has connections with officials or someone who has a high position in the company, of course it will be freer for them to do things that are actually very disgusting.

Just imagine when there are people who want to get a job to get money, they actually have to spend money first. I understand that in order to get money, something has to be sacrificed including spending money, but from your story it is tantamount to illegal actions and far from the rules and policies of a company.
However, it must be recognized that a high position and money will become something powerful, even though it is wrong.
Just get used to it on which we are living on a world which equality is always been an issue or doubtful thing or simply there's no balance on this world and to those who are on the position and have the financial capacity would really be always having the advantage compared into those people who are really just that considered to be on common ones. So dont expect that there would really be a fair treatment
or those people would really be taking out the hard path for them to be able to get something specially if there's someone who had been backing them up then you could say that there's no chance
for you to be hired or would be chosen and just like been said then it is really that disgusting.

Going back into the topic that investing a job than finding a job should be your main priority? I dont think that this would really be a simple path to take on which we do consider out
on what are the things that you would really be needing and what are the things that you do need to achieve or attain first before you could be able to
have one.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Wakate on December 07, 2023, 09:35:03 PM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing. People are running out of options and opportunities. In this world the situation we are in right now, which one should you choose or have chosen? Both options have their pros and cons. I want to know from your experience, which one is better than the other. Are you satisfied with the path that you have chosen or do you have any regrets about it?

So, this is where you need to educate yourself by having small skills, but specifically, at least you have the talent/skill for manual work and it is always needed by other people. For example, become an electrical installer or if you don't go there, look for a small business where the main thing you sell is daily necessities.
I think everybody wants to have their own business but the fund to start something is where the problem lies. It is easy for us to say we are going to do this and do that even after planning but we might not have the funds to keep that dream burning because of so many factors that includes, what to produce, how to produce, where to produce, fund to enable production etc. This is one of the reasons why so many projects and investment keeps falling apart because yo get a rea answer to this could be very difficult or challenging to us even though we have the capital.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Iroh on December 07, 2023, 10:51:41 PM
In everything there will definitely be irresponsible people, especially if the person has connections with officials or someone who has a high position in the company, of course it will be freer for them to do things that are actually very disgusting.

Just imagine when there are people who want to get a job to get money, they actually have to spend money first. I understand that in order to get money, something has to be sacrificed including spending money, but from your story it is tantamount to illegal actions and far from the rules and policies of a company.
However, it must be recognized that a high position and money will become something powerful, even though it is wrong.

You’re right. There would possibly be always irresponsible people in the society. And it’s sad that people who chose to be irresponsible in the workplace in most times than not, have a “friend” or knows someone higher up. Employees like these wouldn’t put in much effort for the success of the goals of the company.
Corruption is everywhere and it’s bad for any recruitment process as the suitable candidate would never be chosen for employment. And someone who haven’t earned the power and the responsibility of an office or a position and was simply placed there would go on to abuse such positions without actually getting anything done.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bhadz on December 07, 2023, 11:09:56 PM
I think everybody wants to have their own business but the fund to start something is where the problem lies.
And those everybody that wants to have the business that they're dreaming of, many of them are not capable of managing it even if they'll be funded. Because the lesson is there when they first start it and it's expected to fail.

It is easy for us to say we are going to do this and do that even after planning but we might not have the funds to keep that dream burning because of so many factors that includes, what to produce, how to produce, where to produce, fund to enable production etc.
Let's say you're already on the point of operation and you're able to do much with it. The problem goes now with the costing, there are a lot of factors need to consider just like what you've mentioned and the ones you've said are just the beginning because there's more to them.

This is one of the reasons why so many projects and investment keeps falling apart because yo get a rea answer to this could be very difficult or challenging to us even though we have the capital.
I admire those that started with a little capital and they rolled it throughout their operation and maintain it until they've seen the growth of it. Anyway, it's not always the capital that matters but how you know what you are doing when you started your own business and your long term vision including providing more workers job under you.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: topbitcoin on December 08, 2023, 07:58:57 AM
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Here, of course, everything depends on the honesty of the intermediary and how much he cares about his reputation. An employer benefits from having a qualified, conflict-free employee come to him, and such people can be attracted mainly by recommendation. If a recommender wants to earn his interest, he must correctly assess the employer's needs and be honest with applicants

Unfortunately, most intermediaries try to take advantage of this opportunity to get the most profit possible. They do not assess the ability of the applicants, but they look at the amount of money that will be offered to the intermediary. And if the price is right then it is certain that the applicant will be pursued and escorted until he gets a work contract with the company. And applicants who use this route are commonly known as entrusted applicants.


And at this time it is very difficult to find someone who is honest and responsible for the work he carries out. we never lack smart people, but we always lack honest people. So that in practice related to fraud in the process of recruiting workers, this still often happens. 


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Uruhara on December 08, 2023, 08:14:45 AM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing. People are running out of options and opportunities. In this world the situation we are in right now, which one should you choose or have chosen? Both options have their pros and cons. I want to know from your experience, which one is better than the other. Are you satisfied with the path that you have chosen or do you have any regrets about it?

So, this is where you need to educate yourself by having small skills, but specifically, at least you have the talent/skill for manual work and it is always needed by other people. For example, become an electrical installer or if you don't go there, look for a small business where the main thing you sell is daily necessities.
In critical economic conditions like now. It is very important for us to find other skills that we can learn, and we have to master them so that we can make good use of them when someone needs the job services that we can do. And we don't just have 1 skill, we also learn more. So that we can always be ready for every job vacancy in any field. Being multi-talented can mean we can find more opportunities. Well, that's what I believe and that's why I personally am also in the process of learning many things. Because I think this will be useful for my future.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Kelvinid on December 08, 2023, 11:18:22 AM
Young people often choose to look for a job and consider themselves as an employee but as we grow old, we realize how important to create a job rather than find a job. We know that our energy won't last forever and as we grow old, it is hard for us to perform tasks that require a high level of energy and even in office staff, some companies are hiring young people. But if we have skills, even if we grow old still we can make money because people will still be looking at us for service. Some are running a business and these people are earning even if they are not working which seems to be their advantage.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on December 08, 2023, 11:49:20 AM
     -   If a person is lazy, even if there are many opportunities around him, he will still not have a job, for sure. But in real life, a strategic person, whether or not there is an opportunity around him, will definitely be able to find a way to earn a living.

Even those who have completed courses or are degree holders are the ones demanding the job they want; if it does not suit what they have studied, they will not accept the job offer. while others, even after graduating, swallow the profession just to have a job.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: nara1892 on December 08, 2023, 12:31:50 PM
Young people often choose to look for a job and consider themselves as an employee but as we grow old, we realize how important to create a job rather than find a job. We know that our energy won't last forever and as we grow old, it is hard for us to perform tasks that require a high level of energy and even in office staff, some companies are hiring young people. But if we have skills, even if we grow old still we can make money because people will still be looking at us for service. Some are running a business and these people are earning even if they are not working which seems to be their advantage.

But I think it's a common thing that almost everyone does and also building a job is not as easy as turning your palm especially if you don't come from a family that has good financial strength or comes from a rich family. Thinking about the future is very important because as you said that as time goes by our energy will decrease due to the increasing age factor, but for the early stages I think it's normal if the younger generation prefers to look for a job first, they need a lot of experience to as a provision that will be very useful when later they want to build their own business and create jobs for others.

It's all just about the person's stance and their concern for their future, there are some people who spend their time just working as a clerk and there are also those who have a developmental and advanced mindset as we discussed here where they should think and care about their future by creating many opportunities for financial freedom in old age. And also it's all about whether they are willing to take risks by trying new things or just staying put and just being a laborer/employee for the rest of their life, it's a choice.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Dunamisx on December 08, 2023, 03:57:28 PM
     -   If a person is lazy, even if there are many opportunities around him, he will still not have a job, for sure. But in real life, a strategic person, whether or not there is an opportunity around him, will definitely be able to find a way to earn a living.

I like your point, laziness is what will lead to living a life of regret because we may not have any opportunity for making any achievements for being lazy while we will be loosing opportunities repeatedly, lazy us a setback force that drives us away far from what we are supposed to achieve in life.

Even those who have completed courses or are degree holders are the ones demanding the job they want; if it does not suit what they have studied, they will not accept the job offer. while others, even after graduating, swallow the profession just to have a job.

No body is exempted from this experience except we take a drastic measures to make sure we are determined for what we are pursuing after, our qualifications, class or status doesn't mean we cannot still engage being lazy except we are very careful of the way we make use of the freedom we have.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: junder on December 08, 2023, 04:12:17 PM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing. People are running out of options and opportunities. In this world the situation we are in right now, which one should you choose or have chosen? Both options have their pros and cons. I want to know from your experience, which one is better than the other. Are you satisfied with the path that you have chosen or do you have any regrets about it?

So, this is where you need to educate yourself by having small skills, but specifically, at least you have the talent/skill for manual work and it is always needed by other people. For example, become an electrical installer or if you don't go there, look for a small business where the main thing you sell is daily necessities.
I think everybody wants to have their own business but the fund to start something is where the problem lies. It is easy for us to say we are going to do this and do that even after planning but we might not have the funds to keep that dream burning because of so many factors that includes, what to produce, how to produce, where to produce, fund to enable production etc. This is one of the reasons why so many projects and investment keeps falling apart because yo get a rea answer to this could be very difficult or challenging to us even though we have the capital.

and this has become a common problem for everyone who wants to have a business, in my opinion if they are sure that the business that will be run can really produce and are confident that they will run it well I think they can do it but they don't have enough funds I think they can take out a loan to start their business, and maybe this will help them to start the business they want, as long as they are sure that the business they will run can run well so that it generates profits for themselves and can pay off the loan to start the capital earlier.

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with doing this,  because any business that will be run, of course, there must be struggles and sacrifices made to establish a business, and maybe this includes struggles or sacrifices in a business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bayu7adi on December 08, 2023, 04:39:28 PM
So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?
Is this like a dilemma, right? Actually, both positions should be balanced, and if they're not balanced, one side will naturally be inclined to switch to the other side. This really happens in my country, even though the practice isn't perfect yet, but there are many lessons I can learn from this.

The picture below shows the monthly salary rate in my area, where job opportunities are very limited and many people are looking for work to make a living. Yes, you're not mistaken, in one month, the average person with a regular job has a minimum salary standard of $125 for 160 hours of work. This is even smaller than the campaign payment for Legendary rank members, which can reach $130 in just 7 days.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/08/EULDH.jpeg

Because the amounts above are in local currency, here are the converted results at the current exchange rate from IDR (Indonesian Rupiah) to USD.
1,957,169 IDR = 125,85 USD
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/08/EUBo2.jpeg

Seeing such low salaries, many people are now turning to entrepreneurship with just courage, without careful calculation and planning. This is one of the right decisions but in the wrong way. Yes, recently there have been many new stores opening within a month, and then the next month they close due to inadequate management. And this doesn't happen once or twice, but there are already hundreds of stores in my city facing the same fate.

Responding to your question, what is the right choice? Being an employee or risking more money to create job opportunities?

Alright, I'm more inclined towards providing job opportunities, but with the condition that finding a job is extremely difficult. After upgrading skills and self-improvement, if finding a job is still challenging, that indicates that becoming an entrepreneur is the only option. Should I just dive into it right away? Certainly not. I've made mistakes several times in entrepreneurship, and that's also because of the lack of careful calculation. This experience is what makes me not want to repeat the same mistakes.

The best option is to study business within less than a year to find the best formula. Then launch the business to start absorbing the workforce. After realizing that the monthly salaries for employees are very low due to the lack of job opportunities, I believe it becomes an initial advantage for us to more easily attract competent workers.

Perhaps there are things that don't go according to plan, so always have Plan A, Plan B, and so on ready.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: tjtonmoy on December 08, 2023, 07:52:25 PM
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As I said before, based on your skills, experience and comfort, you should choose which one suits you the most. It's not like that everyone is going to focus on only one thing. If everyone focus on inventing a job, there will be no one left to work for them. The same thing happens when everyone is trying to find a job but no one else is creating opportunity for others. Whatever it is, whatever option you choose, you are also creating opportunities for others.

When you invent a job, you will eventually need other people to work for you. In this process those who are interested in finding a job will have an opportunity to work for you. And by inventing a job you are giving yourself an opportunity. Your country's situation is kind of horrible. So instead of everyone trying to create their own job, some should do it while others should provide help/work for those people who are trying to give them the opportunity.
But as I said, it depends on skills experience and comfort zone. If you are not able to do the one try the other one.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Japinat on December 08, 2023, 08:29:10 PM
Inventing a job allows you to create more opportunities to elevate your skills and bigger opportunities to earn. It's like owning your own business, you are the boss of yourself and your time and actions are limitless, which means you can do everything you want without those eyes that often monitor you. And for me, this is what I've been looking for, and this where I find my satisfaction of my compensation and appreciation of my own job.

However, finding a job is not bad at all. If you are offered with a higher position, then that is already an advantage. But it also depends on your skills and capabilities on that certain job, otherwise if you are not qualified, you will not be accepted either.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Mate2237 on December 08, 2023, 08:51:09 PM
Some people like to be employed by another than creating a job for themselves. They prefer government jobs than they personal jobs. While some like to work on their own than government jobs. As for me, I have said it before, I like to be self employed because there nothing in the government job. The salary they paid will be returned to them from different means. Either by tax payer, healthcare services which some of the governors ask you to pay some percentage from your salary to take cAre of yourself.

And the way things are going in the world, government and private firms are not even employing people again so they just left everyone to face their fate and the life hustle is meant for them to face.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Rockstarguy on December 08, 2023, 09:44:00 PM
I think everybody wants to have their own business but the fund to start something is where the problem lies. It is easy for us to say we are going to do this and do that even after planning but we might not have the funds to keep that dream burning because of so many factors that includes, what to produce, how to produce, where to produce, fund to enable production etc. This is one of the reasons why so many projects and investment keeps falling apart because yo get a rea answer to this could be very difficult or challenging to us even though we have the capital.
Sometimes starting a business is not about  having a big capital first, the main challenge of some people in starting business is good managing by starting small but they are not aware of this. I know businesses and companies that started small but they were able to manage their small capital to stand big. Some people who want to start business can be given a huge capital but it will still be challenging for them to manage the fund they have for the business. I don't always conclude that capital is the only thing people need for a business to stand , good managing is what should never put aside when considering in business to grow and to stand in the future.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: erep on December 08, 2023, 10:11:29 PM
Sometimes starting a business is not about  having a big capital first, the main challenge of some people in starting business is good managing by starting small but they are not aware of this. I know businesses and companies that started small but they were able to manage their small capital to stand big. Some people who want to start business can be given a huge capital but it will still be challenging for them to manage the fund they have for the business. I don't always conclude that capital is the only thing people need for a business to stand , good managing is what should never put aside when considering in business to grow and to stand in the future.
That's right, capital is not the only priority for building a business or company, but they must have the ability and management skills to advance their business better than other competitors, they can develop small businesses without spending large amounts of capital and having to undergo "trials" and error “to improve our ability to develop our business, because we need a lot of new experience to support business development and we have to update every new business strategy according to market needs.

I often see many people opening big businesses (Cafee) but they have no ability to manage finances and no expertise in business, their business only gets a response from the first few months the business has been launched but they lose customers because of business competition, but they can't manage business when their business is in crisis because they have no other option to maintain the business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: panganib999 on December 08, 2023, 10:31:12 PM
I say that is true, cause at the very least you'd knock the "mastering a craft" step out of the park easily if you have something you are already good at and you made it into something profitable. On the other hand, this wouldn't be the case if you're looking for a job tailor-fitted to a specific need/niche. Plus you also get the bonus of being able to rate your own since the industry's not yet used to how much you should be paid. The only problem with inventing a job is looking for people who need you. There's a saying in my country which goes: "If it's not invented yet, it probably was, but it didn't work". Which goes so well with this particular scenario. You're in over your head thinking you got all your ducks in a row, until you realize that people wouldn't be so willing to pay for a craft that's not even in the market yet.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Assface16678 on December 08, 2023, 10:56:23 PM
I think everybody wants to have their own business but the fund to start something is where the problem lies. It is easy for us to say we are going to do this and do that even after planning but we might not have the funds to keep that dream burning because of so many factors that includes, what to produce, how to produce, where to produce, fund to enable production etc. This is one of the reasons why so many projects and investment keeps falling apart because yo get a rea answer to this could be very difficult or challenging to us even though we have the capital.
Sometimes starting a business is not about  having a big capital first, the main challenge of some people in starting business is good managing by starting small but they are not aware of this. I know businesses and companies that started small but they were able to manage their small capital to stand big. Some people who want to start business can be given a huge capital but it will still be challenging for them to manage the fund they have for the business. I don't always conclude that capital is the only thing people need for a business to stand , good managing is what should never put aside when considering in business to grow and to stand in the future.
True, but it's more important to know that business or building your own job is not for everyone. As you say, business requires good management, but we know that not all people have the knowledge to manage a business, or by nature, they're really not for business. That's why there are businesses that face bankruptcy. The thing is, business is a real challenge, like in bitcoin or crypto currency. It is risky without a detailed analysis of what your business is and what will be your business, and you will never survive in it. There are many things to be considered before you can start a business. One thing is capital. Building a business is risky, and if you loan that capital, then it makes things more risky. It's good for the economy to have many people start businesses because it can produce more jobs, but the thing is, it's not that simple.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Lorence.xD on December 08, 2023, 11:47:57 PM
I think everybody wants to have their own business but the fund to start something is where the problem lies. It is easy for us to say we are going to do this and do that even after planning but we might not have the funds to keep that dream burning because of so many factors that includes, what to produce, how to produce, where to produce, fund to enable production etc. This is one of the reasons why so many projects and investment keeps falling apart because yo get a rea answer to this could be very difficult or challenging to us even though we have the capital.
Sometimes starting a business is not about  having a big capital first, the main challenge of some people in starting business is good managing by starting small but they are not aware of this. I know businesses and companies that started small but they were able to manage their small capital to stand big. Some people who want to start business can be given a huge capital but it will still be challenging for them to manage the fund they have for the business. I don't always conclude that capital is the only thing people need for a business to stand , good managing is what should never put aside when considering in business to grow and to stand in the future.

The first thing to have when a person really wants to start a business is passion and motivation, without his will to achieve his goal probably he wouldn't exert effort to build his business. If you have this you would really find ways to build your business, like gaining some knowledge by attending seminars, online, mentors, etc. Capital is one of a problem that you would need in building a business unless you are a company cause you would need huge capital, but if you are starting on your own, you can start with any resources you have as you are the boss of your building business, you can make your small funds into huge if you are knowledgeable and skillful.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: fullhdpixel on December 09, 2023, 08:32:03 AM
If you look at those around you, the majority choose “finding a job”. This is simpler and easier to implement, there is stability and regularity, and also, all responsibility and risks are assigned to the employer. But the significant disadvantage is that the final (total) reward is less if you “inventing a job”. And the main problem with “inventing a job” is that only a few can do it (it requires the necessary skills, abilities, natural inclinations and talents, and most importantly, luck), just as very few achieve success. There are many cases around when attempts to “inventing a job” ended in failure and unprofitability, up to bankruptcy, loans and debts. In this case, it is better to “finding a job” if your “inventing a job” leads to a worse financial situation than if your choice was “finding a job”.

It is obvious to everyone that there is no universal answer when choosing between these options. But I would like to focus on the fact that even for each individual person, at different periods of life, this choice can shift from “finding a job” to “inventing a job” (in different directions).
The question of choosing only arises if you have both options in front of you and it's up to you to choose one of them, but in most cases, people have no options and no choice which is the reason why they have to go with finding a job. Inventing a job means starting a business of your own where you are the boss and not working under someone, and not everyone can afford to do that because of a lack of resources and a proper or enough budget to go with it.

I don't think that a person with the right mindset will choose a job over a business if they are given the option to choose one because anyone would know that a job isn't better than a working and running business, there are countless limitations when you are an employ compared to when you are managing your own business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: EluguHcman on December 09, 2023, 10:30:32 AM
Normally no means of incomes profitablity is beyond creating oneself with a job.
Finding ourself a job is never limited to Considering terms and conditions which are likely inconvenience to an employee instead you adopt to accept the situations tolerably and also, at the risk of job lost either at the employees awareness or unaware of impromptu effect.
And surely on the virtue of retirement in matter of time.

But creating oneself with a job is being your own boss whereas, you makes the rules of Terms and Conditions, you decides how your organization would be run, you have  as an employer has the employees working for you as the CEO and rightfully limited to retirement unless you chooses to but has a potential stress of management for adequates governance to limit loses but maintains profitablities.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Manny@11111 on December 09, 2023, 05:23:41 PM
Really liked the way you put it ''as whatever decision you make comes with its own pros and cons.
Like a wise man once said that inventing a job is more lucrative, enjoying and self serving than securing job employment but inventing a job is more riskier than the other because you have to create a value and expect those values to be accepted by the target market it's intended. What is more riskier in inventing a job is capital and once you didn't get it right it might be catastrophic and you might not come out of the hole it might dig for you but if all this can be surmounted then is the best.

For job employment, inasmuch it guaranteed your monthly income it also makes you lazy not to think outside the box for yourself but for the owner of the job and as such you might not be able see beyond your daily routine.

From my own experience I tried to raise cash from my paid job to invent the job I want and grew it over the years before resigning to face it when I knew the job is enough to generate double my salary and by that time I needed more time to make more. With this model I didn't have to borrow money to fund  my investment.

I will always prefer people to invent what they want to do compare to securing paid employment but they need to understand risks involved, how to secured finance for it and they also need to have fallback options if things didn't pan out as planned
I also know that is not everyone that have business mind but with the way global economy is receding where job opportunities are limiting on day to day basis I believe creating value no matter how small is the way to go.



Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Obari on December 09, 2023, 07:41:13 PM
Normally no means of incomes profitablity is beyond creating oneself with a job.
Finding ourself a job is never limited to Considering terms and conditions which are likely inconvenience to an employee instead you adopt to accept the situations tolerably and also, at the risk of job lost either at the employees awareness or unaware of impromptu effect.
And surely on the virtue of retirement in matter of time.

But creating oneself with a job is being your own boss whereas, you makes the rules of Terms and Conditions, you decides how your organization would be run, you have  as an employer has the employees working for you as the CEO and rightfully limited to retirement unless you chooses to but has a potential stress of management for adequates governance to limit loses but maintains profitablities.

Developing skills will push one to become promising and proficient in accompanying primary objectives. Getting a well pay salary have nothing to do with getting self employed, no one controls your profits other than yourself. Working under someone who bosses you around is never the plan, one will always be busy and commited to his or her job and will be punished for whatever slight mistakes or errors made in the process. There's nothing as tender as getting self employed and earning good salaries, everything going straight to your very own pockets.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Sanitough on December 09, 2023, 07:50:46 PM
Inventing your own job and being the boss of your own self is probably the trend these days. A lot have been successful and living comfortable lives having their own jobs at home or anywhere of their own place, than being employed to a company where your opportunities to grow and increase your profitability is limited. Gone are the days where one should have a stable job in a company and makes a fixed income, because today people have even more dependent on their side hustles because the profits are undeniably bigger than what they gained from their stable jobs.

However, still we can see some people chose to be employed and get satisfied with their limited profits. Most likely, they're the old ones that probably we can say that they are already get used to their jobs and changes might not be welcome anymore.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Pablo-wood on December 09, 2023, 09:29:34 PM
But I will like to ask can one invent a job when they haven't worked for sometime to gather experience. Inventing a job is the best approach to today's harsh and and hiked economy but one needs to have an idea of whatever innovation they might want to introduce to the society and as such the will start by getting a job first


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 09, 2023, 09:46:49 PM
Inventing your own job and being the boss of your own self is probably the trend these days. A lot have been successful and living comfortable lives having their own jobs at home or anywhere of their own place, than being employed to a company where your opportunities to grow and increase your profitability is limited. Gone are the days where one should have a stable job in a company and makes a fixed income, because today people have even more dependent on their side hustles because the profits are undeniably bigger than what they gained from their stable jobs.

However, still we can see some people chose to be employed and get satisfied with their limited profits. Most likely, they're the old ones that probably we can say that they are already get used to their jobs and changes might not be welcome anymore.
Easy to say but it would really be the toughest thing to be done by someone.Yes, there's someone who did able to make such thing successfully and did really bring a huge changes into their lives on which it would really be just that normal that they would really be having those kind of probabilities on making themselves changed up when it comes to finances since they've taken up the risks and not someone who had just simply sitting down
and wait up for something. You could really be your own boss with your own company or business, the question is. How you would be able to start up? What business you would be planning to build on?
Knowing that in every business or venture then there's so much things which you would really be needing to mind on on which you would be mainly thinking about those products and services you would really be
that trying out to make and come to think that competition is high and it is really just that normal to be one of the main risks when building up a business.

Its not an easy path to take but if you are really that eager on making yourself that better in terms of finances then it wont really be that bad to try until you do succeed but you should
really be that realistic on whatever you are dealing with since not all would really be turning out to be successful.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: n0ne on December 09, 2023, 11:50:20 PM
Normally no means of incomes profitablity is beyond creating oneself with a job.
Finding ourself a job is never limited to Considering terms and conditions which are likely inconvenience to an employee instead you adopt to accept the situations tolerably and also, at the risk of job lost either at the employees awareness or unaware of impromptu effect.
And surely on the virtue of retirement in matter of time.

But creating oneself with a job is being your own boss whereas, you makes the rules of Terms and Conditions, you decides how your organization would be run, you have  as an employer has the employees working for you as the CEO and rightfully limited to retirement unless you chooses to but has a potential stress of management for adequates governance to limit loses but maintains profitablities.

Developing skills will push one to become promising and proficient in accompanying primary objectives. Getting a well pay salary have nothing to do with getting self employed, no one controls your profits other than yourself. Working under someone who bosses you around is never the plan, one will always be busy and commited to his or her job and will be punished for whatever slight mistakes or errors made in the process. There's nothing as tender as getting self employed and earning good salaries, everything going straight to your very own pockets.
Working for ourselves makes us more productive than working under a boss. In simple based on how hard we work will be the betterment of our life. With a day job we just do what is being assigned and we get the regular pay. This is low riskier compared to the risky way of having our own job. Another thing we need to manage different departments, which makes us to know more about the respective product/service than just a small part of the service.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: TopT3ns on December 09, 2023, 11:55:27 PM
Working for ourselves makes us more productive than working under a boss. In simple based on how hard we work will be the betterment of our life. With a day job we just do what is being assigned and we get the regular pay. This is low riskier compared to the risky way of having our own job. Another thing we need to manage different departments, which makes us to know more about the respective product/service than just a small part of the service.
If you have skills and have high creativity, then working alone will be better, but if you don't have that, it will be difficult to get money. As a first step, it's a good idea to work for a company so you can collect capital, increase your experience, and make as many friends as you want. You can then start your business when you already have your own skills, because when you immediately open your own business, you will need capital, and of course, experience will be an important teacher for success in the business being developed.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: TimeTeller on December 09, 2023, 11:57:28 PM
Working for ourselves makes us more productive than working under a boss. In simple based on how hard we work will be the betterment of our life. With a day job we just do what is being assigned and we get the regular pay. This is low riskier compared to the risky way of having our own job. Another thing we need to manage different departments, which makes us to know more about the respective product/service than just a small part of the service.
If you have skills and have high creativity, then working alone will be better, but if you don't have that, it will be difficult to get money. As a first step, it's a good idea to work for a company so you can collect capital, increase your experience, and make as many friends as you want. You can then start your business when you already have your own skills, because when you immediately open your own business, you will need capital, and of course, experience will be an important teacher for success in the business being developed.

Most newcomers in the workforce would find it hard to create his own job, thus looking for a job make come easy.
As you acquire skills, experience and knowledge, you will find out that you will feel you are ready to be a freelancer or create your own business.
However, some are just contented being employed in a stable company receiving their regular monthly paycheck.
Their aim usually is to have a good retirement savings as well as benefits they can receive after retirement.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Mauser on December 11, 2023, 07:49:35 AM
Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

Thinking back on how it was to find my last job, it would have been nice to just invent something that suits me better and pays more money instead of running to so many different interviews. The question for me would be how well is a new job that I invent myself going to be. Is it going to be secured for many years to come and will it provide a high enough salary to provide for me and my family? I would probably prefer to stay employed or try to find a decent paying job where I don’t have to worry so much. A high degree of job security with good benefits is important in the current time, where we face many crisis. So, when choosing between unemployment and inventing a new job it’s an easy choice. But when it comes to already having a secure job and trying something new with limited upside potential, I would probably stick my current job and value the security more.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Fortify on December 11, 2023, 10:41:41 AM
So as we are here, the world economy is in a mess. The world population is increasing, and the amount of land per person is decreasing. People are running out of options and opportunities. In this world the situation we are in right now, which one should you choose or have chosen? Both options have their pros and cons. I want to know from your experience, which one is better than the other. Are you satisfied with the path that you have chosen or do you have any regrets about it?

To explain it a bit more, inventing a job means doing something on your own and creating an opportunity for yourself. This could also include creating opportunities for others too. Those who invent their own jobs can design positions that are in line with their particular skills, interests, and values. This gives them a sense of fulfilment and autonomy that may not be available in traditional employment options.
But it brings risks. In order to create or invent a job, you need investment. Each and every investment comes with risks and this is no different.

Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

[NOTE: if this topic has been discussed before then let me know.]

This is the logic that every entrepreneur uses, often finding gaps in the market and capitalising it to the max, with as much speed as possible. If you are first to market and able to push your product far enough, then it can give you a huge advantage in the long term. That being said, it is not an easy task to create and run your own business, especially when you're doing it solo and it's often best to seek legal and accounting advice in the early stages of you're about to release a product or service. Having the right insurance is also key.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: slapper on December 12, 2023, 02:04:43 PM
Finding a job also has its pros and cons. One pro is that it does not require investment of personal assets. You are working for an organization and you will get paid at the end of every month. With that being said, it is hard to find a job nowadays. Less opportunities and competition have made it so hard that many people are staying at home unemployed after graduation. You need particular skills, knowledge and experience that are required in order to get that job.

So which one should it be? Do you take the risk and invent a job or do you want to keep running the race knowing the possibility of winning is very low and you may never reach the finish line?

Thinking back on how it was to find my last job, it would have been nice to just invent something that suits me better and pays more money instead of running to so many different interviews. The question for me would be how well is a new job that I invent myself going to be. Is it going to be secured for many years to come and will it provide a high enough salary to provide for me and my family? I would probably prefer to stay employed or try to find a decent paying job where I don’t have to worry so much. A high degree of job security with good benefits is important in the current time, where we face many crisis. So, when choosing between unemployment and inventing a new job it’s an easy choice. But when it comes to already having a secure job and trying something new with limited upside potential, I would probably stick my current job and value the security more.

Creating your own profession involves more than simply the idea - it also requires a market demand, scalability, and financial sustainability. Autonomy is exciting, but there are a lot of unknowns involved as well. A stable job provides the steadiness that the present economy, with its unpredictably recurring crises, demands. It's about more than just a paycheck - it's about your family's safety net, your health benefits, and your piece of mind

Conversely, it is important to acknowledge the possibilities of self-invented jobs. They can be immensely fulfilling on a personal and financial level. The issue still stands, though: is the risk worthwhile? You prioritized things like job security and benefits, which are important in these uncertain times. Thus, keep the long term in mind while assessing your selections. Does the security your present employment affords outweigh the potential benefits of a self-invented job? The devil you know is sometimes a better angel than the one you don't


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Accardo on December 12, 2023, 02:40:45 PM
Inventing your own job and being the boss of your own self is probably the trend these days. A lot have been successful and living comfortable lives having their own jobs at home or anywhere of their own place, than being employed to a company where your opportunities to grow and increase your profitability is limited. Gone are the days where one should have a stable job in a company and makes a fixed income, because today people have even more dependent on their side hustles because the profits are undeniably bigger than what they gained from their stable jobs.

However, still we can see some people chose to be employed and get satisfied with their limited profits. Most likely, they're the old ones that probably we can say that they are already get used to their jobs and changes might not be welcome anymore.

The trend of working on our side hustle is no longer a thread, it's now a reality. Many people quit their jobs to set up new businesses that yield high profits compelled to their office jobs. Despite the promising rewards or earnings of running a business, I'd say it's not meant for everyone. We are supposed to engage in activities that help us grow, if working for someone would do that, then it's not wrong. The crucial thing is, delivering our aspect of the jobs to the company or the audience we serve. Both are not simple. But, it's never advisable for a visionary who can't run a company to try it. Each person in the business world is expected to focus on the role he plays the best. Those who don't succeed in their journey of building a business, are not prepared in the first place. Trying to run a business, without an initial plan till the end of the journey, causes failure for the intending entrepreneur. Some may not know the right service to render in society, others won't have the patience to stick around, for long, when the journey is not going as planned.

That's why you see lots of businesses and websites shutting down each hour, yielding more opportunities for expired domain vendors. In generating wealth, we must be good at detecting or predicting what society needs at a specific era. We can decide to do what a lot of people hate doing, it's a fast way of making money and building a fast-growing business. But, lots of business ideas, opened in the market, have been saturated. Therefore, tightening the possibility of such a business to succeed, due to lots of competitors. This affects the price of the sold product. So, when, one can't manage these risks of being fast in diversifying ideas, they can stay as employees in their respective companies like the old ones did. Instead of losing in both sides, the employee is on the right track working for his boss's business. The experience he gains, in the office, will help the employee in future to secure him more deals or start up a new business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: eightdots on December 12, 2023, 07:14:27 PM
Inventing your own job and being the boss of your own self is probably the trend these days. A lot have been successful and living comfortable lives having their own jobs at home or anywhere of their own place, than being employed to a company where your opportunities to grow and increase your profitability is limited. Gone are the days where one should have a stable job in a company and makes a fixed income, because today people have even more dependent on their side hustles because the profits are undeniably bigger than what they gained from their stable jobs.

However, still we can see some people chose to be employed and get satisfied with their limited profits. Most likely, they're the old ones that probably we can say that they are already get used to their jobs and changes might not be welcome anymore.

The trend of working on our side hustle is no longer a thread, it's now a reality. Many people quit their jobs to set up new businesses that yield high profits compelled to their office jobs. Despite the promising rewards or earnings of running a business, I'd say it's not meant for everyone. We are supposed to engage in activities that help us grow, if working for someone would do that, then it's not wrong. The crucial thing is, delivering our aspect of the jobs to the company or the audience we serve. Both are not simple. But, it's never advisable for a visionary who can't run a company to try it. Each person in the business world is expected to focus on the role he plays the best. Those who don't succeed in their journey of building a business, are not prepared in the first place. Trying to run a business, without an initial plan till the end of the journey, causes failure for the intending entrepreneur. Some may not know the right service to render in society, others won't have the patience to stick around, for long, when the journey is not going as planned.

That's why you see lots of businesses and websites shutting down each hour, yielding more opportunities for expired domain vendors. In generating wealth, we must be good at detecting or predicting what society needs at a specific era. We can decide to do what a lot of people hate doing, it's a fast way of making money and building a fast-growing business. But, lots of business ideas, opened in the market, have been saturated. Therefore, tightening the possibility of such a business to succeed, due to lots of competitors. This affects the price of the sold product. So, when, one can't manage these risks of being fast in diversifying ideas, they can stay as employees in their respective companies like the old ones did. Instead of losing in both sides, the employee is on the right track working for his boss's business. The experience he gains, in the office, will help the employee in future to secure him more deals or start up a new business.

Yes, there are a lot of trends in starting a business today, but we don't know if they are good or bad. Following these trends without a plan can lead to mistakes. But there are people who have very different strategies for starting a business and those who follow them think that they will be successful in the same way.

Everyone wants to own their own business and work in their own field, away from harsh environmental factors. But it bothers me to be told that this way of working guarantees more profit. We are always told that we will always make a profit, that everything will be better when you are your own boss. I know people who thought this way, but the results were not good and they lost their capital. I also know people who are happy that the results are good and they chose this path.

It is fair to say that these things are not for everyone. Because as a result of the changes in the world, there are many businesses that were established without adequate planning or that cannot make a profit. Sometimes dreams and realities do not match.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: terrific on December 12, 2023, 10:54:49 PM
However, some are just contented being employed in a stable company receiving their regular monthly paycheck.
Yes, this is true and that's because stability is more important to them than to take a risk and start their own business. But I think with economical difficulty these days, many of them are going to start thinking of putting up their own business and will start to take risk.

Their aim usually is to have a good retirement savings as well as benefits they can receive after retirement.
Some thoughts might go over their head that they're not going to work forever to keep themselves with a savings that will be lesser due to the inflation on their retirement day.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Ben Barubal on December 13, 2023, 03:08:56 PM
However, some are just contented being employed in a stable company receiving their regular monthly paycheck.
Yes, this is true and that's because stability is more important to them than to take a risk and start their own business. But I think with economical difficulty these days, many of them are going to start thinking of putting up their own business and will start to take risk.

Their aim usually is to have a good retirement savings as well as benefits they can receive after retirement.
Some thoughts might go over their head that they're not going to work forever to keep themselves with a savings that will be lesser due to the inflation on their retirement day.

  It's not that everyone can be a business-minded person; of course, how can a business or company run if there are no employees? It seems that there are people who are just destined to be employees with the mindset that most want a sure income every month.

  There are only a few people who have their own businesses and have succeeded in their lives. So we are grateful if there are people who have already made up their minds to become employees.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: terrific on December 13, 2023, 09:37:31 PM
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  It's not that everyone can be a business-minded person; of course, how can a business or company run if there are no employees? It seems that there are people who are just destined to be employees with the mindset that most want a sure income every month.
This is true, there are people that are destined to be employees forever and they're totally fine with that.

 There are only a few people who have their own businesses and have succeeded in their lives. So we are grateful if there are people who have already made up their minds to become employees.
Most of the successful people in terms of finance and money are businessmen. They know that they won't become rich being employees forever but it's okay to be an employee and much better to have some other ventures too.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: poodle63 on December 14, 2023, 12:56:33 AM
  It's not that everyone can be a business-minded person; of course, how can a business or company run if there are no employees? It seems that there are people who are just destined to be employees with the mindset that most want a sure income every month.

  There are only a few people who have their own businesses and have succeeded in their lives. So we are grateful if there are people who have already made up their minds to become employees.
thats the thing with business so many people underestimate the fact that business is truly difficult thing to do, someone can be given out 1 billion to start out a business and it could just be a failure, the money going down the drain, inventing job is not some trivial task, its truly a difficult one, business is doing so many thing and doing really good at them from trying to present a product, manufacturing, marketing, after market service, thats just complicated thing that only very few could pull off, indeed some people are more suited for working jobs because it might be less mentally exhausting and also doesn't require as much will and capital to be able to pull off just offer the workforce and don't need to think about anything else.
but of course it will be better if many people could start their own business and invent jobs, it will means more salary for people since increasing scarcity of workforce and also make the economic better.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: JunaidAzizi on December 14, 2023, 03:49:46 AM
Yes, you are right, we saw the world from the 20s completely changing and the world goes to more advancement where they make the life of people easy but at the same, they make the people optionaless and less valuable. The count is increasing per day and the agricultural land is changing to towns and societies and in this situation finding a job for yourself is very tough because of the high competition and fewer opportunities. So, in this case, both finding a job or inventing a job has its pros and cons, if a person in all this situation and high competition finds a job for himself he will just live an average life with the salary of that job if this job does not require any investment the same they offer a small salary but if you start something and invest your money in it, it will give you huge profits with time not only this but also provides the opportunity to others. So in my view inventing a job is more beneficial and profitable than finding a job.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: NewRanger on December 14, 2023, 04:06:24 AM
Yes, you are right, we saw the world from the 20s completely changing and the world goes to more advancement where they make the life of people easy but at the same, they make the people optionaless and less valuable. The count is increasing per day and the agricultural land is changing to towns and societies and in this situation finding a job for yourself is very tough because of the high competition and fewer opportunities. So, in this case, both finding a job or inventing a job has its pros and cons, if a person in all this situation and high competition finds a job for himself he will just live an average life with the salary of that job if this job does not require any investment the same they offer a small salary but if you start something and invest your money in it, it will give you huge profits with time not only this but also provides the opportunity to others. So in my view inventing a job is more beneficial and profitable than finding a job.


It is indeed difficult to find a job with a good salary and you have to fulfill many conditions. It would be even better if you were able to create a business that can absorb the work force even if there are only 2 workers and the impact may seem small, but this is what is expected, because apart from helping people who need jobs, the country is also helped by their participation and creativity in creating new jobs. The unemployment rate itself will be depressed and can decrease by itself. Hopefully next year there will be more people doing initiatives like this.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: slapper on December 14, 2023, 07:44:54 AM
Yes, you are right, we saw the world from the 20s completely changing and the world goes to more advancement where they make the life of people easy but at the same, they make the people optionaless and less valuable. The count is increasing per day and the agricultural land is changing to towns and societies and in this situation finding a job for yourself is very tough because of the high competition and fewer opportunities. So, in this case, both finding a job or inventing a job has its pros and cons, if a person in all this situation and high competition finds a job for himself he will just live an average life with the salary of that job if this job does not require any investment the same they offer a small salary but if you start something and invest your money in it, it will give you huge profits with time not only this but also provides the opportunity to others. So in my view inventing a job is more beneficial and profitable than finding a job.

Without a doubt, robotics and other advances in technology are changing the way jobs are done. I agree that the way things have changed around us makes standard jobs seem limiting. Think about the risks that come with "inventing a job," though. Someone doesn't always have the money, the willingness to take risks, or even the creative idea. An important thing to remember is that starting your own business can make you more money, but it's not the best option for everyone. Some people might not be able to do it because they are weak, can't change, or can't handle loss

The "average life" with a steady job is next on our list. Stability has some good points, even though it's easy to gloss over as boring. Many people feel safe about their families, their health, and their future when they know they can count on their pay next month. Another thing to remember is that a person's worth is not just based on their job title or paycheck. In many ways, people help society that aren't related to their jobs. Although "inventing a job" is interesting, you shouldn't underestimate how important it is to find a job. We live in a world that is always changing, so each person needs to find the road that fits their own needs and goals


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: AicecreaME on December 14, 2023, 11:47:55 AM
If you meant was creating your own business to create opportunities to yourself as well as to others, then I agree.

It's better, however, creating your own business is easy but making it successful to bring fortune to you and to others is very hard. It's a trial and error process, and a lot of money is needed until you make it work, but it doesn't matter if you have the money and the plan you needed. It's an advantage if you have a degree related to that so you can manage it well, but self studying is not bad at all.

But those who do not have the privilege to start their own business due to lack of capital, they don't have any choice but to find a job, save money as much as possible since they love what they do.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: junder on December 14, 2023, 12:02:30 PM
Yes, you are right, we saw the world from the 20s completely changing and the world goes to more advancement where they make the life of people easy but at the same, they make the people optionaless and less valuable. The count is increasing per day and the agricultural land is changing to towns and societies and in this situation finding a job for yourself is very tough because of the high competition and fewer opportunities. So, in this case, both finding a job or inventing a job has its pros and cons, if a person in all this situation and high competition finds a job for himself he will just live an average life with the salary of that job if this job does not require any investment the same they offer a small salary but if you start something and invest your money in it, it will give you huge profits with time not only this but also provides the opportunity to others. So in my view inventing a job is more beneficial and profitable than finding a job.


It is indeed difficult to find a job with a good salary and you have to fulfill many conditions. It would be even better if you were able to create a business that can absorb the work force even if there are only 2 workers and the impact may seem small, but this is what is expected, because apart from helping people who need jobs, the country is also helped by their participation and creativity in creating new jobs. The unemployment rate itself will be depressed and can decrease by itself. Hopefully next year there will be more people doing initiatives like this.

you are right at the moment finding a job with a good salary is very difficult, in my country also the existence of factory jobs must use money as a condition for being able to enter or join a company, also currently in my country more women can enter and join a company, I myself want to have a company that I founded myself to invite my friends to work, because I myself want to create jobs so that I can help the economy of my friends.

many people want a decent job, I mean many are looking for a job according to what they want, while it is difficult to get, even if they get a job maybe it is not in accordance with what they want, I hope everyone can get a decent job in the new year to come.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: DaNNy001 on December 14, 2023, 12:56:55 PM
Yes, you are right, we saw the world from the 20s completely changing and the world goes to more advancement where they make the life of people easy but at the same, they make the people optionaless and less valuable. The count is increasing per day and the agricultural land is changing to towns and societies and in this situation finding a job for yourself is very tough because of the high competition and fewer opportunities. So, in this case, both finding a job or inventing a job has its pros and cons, if a person in all this situation and high competition finds a job for himself he will just live an average life with the salary of that job if this job does not require any investment the same they offer a small salary but if you start something and invest your money in it, it will give you huge profits with time not only this but also provides the opportunity to others. So in my view inventing a job is more beneficial and profitable than finding a job.


It is indeed difficult to find a job with a good salary and you have to fulfill many conditions. It would be even better if you were able to create a business that can absorb the work force even if there are only 2 workers and the impact may seem small, but this is what is expected, because apart from helping people who need jobs, the country is also helped by their participation and creativity in creating new jobs. The unemployment rate itself will be depressed and can decrease by itself. Hopefully next year there will be more people doing initiatives like this.

I suppose even working for someone is hard these days as the society or environment you are is also a determinate to that factor that's why over here in the world countries many are looking for ways to establish themselves rather than use their manpower to elevate someone else. Working as a self employed person is the best thing you can do for yourself because all the profits that you would help someone build can be enjoyed by yourself.

But the online world is what is helping people now and I guess you can't count it as creating of jobs for yourself though as many of us here are trooping into the freelance world as the demand is high and one thing again , it's internet money and is widely appreciated here as the value of earning in dollars is better than your normal average fiat salaries.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Rockstarguy on December 14, 2023, 03:01:05 PM
If you meant was creating your own business to create opportunities to yourself as well as to others, then I agree.

It's better, however, creating your own business is easy but making it successful to bring fortune to you and to others is very hard. It's a trial and error process, and a lot of money is needed until you make it work, but it doesn't matter if you have the money and the plan you needed. It's an advantage if you have a degree related to that so you can manage it well, but self studying is not bad at all.
One thing about business when you know what you are doing and how to manage a business it will definitely work well. Business is not something as very difficult like we think.  One of the things that makes business to fail or remain stagnant is insufficient knowledge/ideas, poor managing . If one really  understands the business which they find themselves,  I think it can be successful.  What makes business to become big depends on some factors like more capital,  environment,  and how the profit from the business is being spent. If fund is available and good knowledge about a business it is possible for the business to go big.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 14, 2023, 03:50:00 PM
Yes, you are right, we saw the world from the 20s completely changing and the world goes to more advancement where they make the life of people easy but at the same, they make the people optionaless and less valuable. The count is increasing per day and the agricultural land is changing to towns and societies and in this situation finding a job for yourself is very tough because of the high competition and fewer opportunities. So, in this case, both finding a job or inventing a job has its pros and cons, if a person in all this situation and high competition finds a job for himself he will just live an average life with the salary of that job if this job does not require any investment the same they offer a small salary but if you start something and invest your money in it, it will give you huge profits with time not only this but also provides the opportunity to others. So in my view inventing a job is more beneficial and profitable than finding a job.


It is indeed difficult to find a job with a good salary and you have to fulfill many conditions. It would be even better if you were able to create a business that can absorb the work force even if there are only 2 workers and the impact may seem small, but this is what is expected, because apart from helping people who need jobs, the country is also helped by their participation and creativity in creating new jobs. The unemployment rate itself will be depressed and can decrease by itself. Hopefully next year there will be more people doing initiatives like this.
Being an employee or creating jobs by yourself and even employing people are good, it depends on you, your creativity, the environment you find yourself in and what you want for your life. People should go for what makes them happy, that is the best part, and this is the reason why people's choices will not be the same. Even with people in the same environments and having the same factors affecting them, they still will have different opinions in this regard, which is why I can't really decide about this. But for me, I am okay with the two as fate decides the rest for me. If I can secure a well-paying job, why not build a career with it and continue to upgrade myself with more certifications until I rise to the top? Also, if it's the creation of jobs that is my calling, why not? But people often underestimate the challenges in the creation of jobs, it's not often as easy as they see it. Many regret that they didn't follow the path of finding a job instead of building a career on their own.

But in the same way, many would be hurt that they should have created the job for themselves instead of wasting their time with a certain employment. This life is not balanced, no one is the perfect architect of it. I can only advice that we should apply wisdom, pray and let fate guide us right.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Dunamisx on December 14, 2023, 04:12:28 PM
If you meant was creating your own business to create opportunities to yourself as well as to others, then I agree.

It's better, however, creating your own business is easy but making it successful to bring fortune to you and to others is very hard. It's a trial and error process, and a lot of money is needed until you make it work, but it doesn't matter if you have the money and the plan you needed. It's an advantage if you have a degree related to that so you can manage it well, but self studying is not bad at all.
One thing about business when you know what you are doing and how to manage a business it will definitely work well. Business is not something as very difficult like we think.  One of the things that makes business to fail or remain stagnant is insufficient knowledge/ideas, poor managing . If one really  understands the business which they find themselves,  I think it can be successful.  What makes business to become big depends on some factors like more capital,  environment,  and how the profit from the business is being spent. If fund is available and good knowledge about a business it is possible for the business to go big.

Some do make the conclusion right from their minds that they can't achieve anything from owning a business, this is a self low esteem one could ever give to himself, thinking always about impossibilities, no one ever knew the future could be as that bright bot until they give it all a try to start something not minding the risk involved, but many lack this same ability and determination, if we see ourselves being a business owner, we could one day turn to be one if we work on it.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: |MINER| on December 15, 2023, 04:05:24 AM
It is better to arrange your own job than to look for a job.  I always think that it is better to start a business on your own than to work under someone. If you can start a business by yourself, then you can employ five more unemployed people there.  Moreover, you said that the job market is very depressed now, it is really right. There are thousands of candidates for a job. This is because of the increase in population. You should do something innovative yourself without relying on anyone.  There are various businesses, which can be started with little capital. And if we get frustrated thinking that we will succeed before taking any risk, then it is not possible to do anything new in life.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Trawda on December 15, 2023, 04:27:39 AM
It is better to invent a job that suits your situation and skills. Getting a job at the present time is no longer easy at all.
But creating your own business is not that easy. It requires skill and may require capital as well.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: adzino on December 15, 2023, 06:57:34 AM
You need capital for that. And in order to have capital, you need to find a job and start saving. Sure it is better, but the risk involved here is higher. There will be no "stability" in your income if you don't have a job. There might be a chance where the job that you "created" might end up failing. So it is better to have a job as a back up plan. Also while you work, you might also learn a thing or two on how to run a business or a company. Once you have saved enough, you can take the risk. And it is true, if you are able to form a business and it takes off, you will be doing much better than the job you had before. Watch others, learn first and then start one of your own.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bitLeap on December 15, 2023, 07:56:09 AM
You need capital for that. And in order to have capital, you need to find a job and start saving. Sure it is better, but the risk involved here is higher. There will be no "stability" in your income if you don't have a job. There might be a chance where the job that you "created" might end up failing. So it is better to have a job as a back up plan. Also while you work, you might also learn a thing or two on how to run a business or a company. Once you have saved enough, you can take the risk. And it is true, if you are able to form a business and it takes off, you will be doing much better than the job you had before. Watch others, learn first and then start one of your own.
Anything that makes money is always a risk, no matter if you are an owner or an employee. For example, during the pandemic a few years ago, both those who owned their own businesses and those who worked in other people's companies were affected. Many of them had to go out of business, many of them had to be laid off due to employee redundancies, all of which may not have been thought of before.
We must have more than one source of income, so if one of our sources of income is having problems, we still have other sources of income. Don't get stuck in your comfort zone, because usually that's what will make it dificult for you.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Xcode7 on December 15, 2023, 08:12:39 AM
You need capital for that. And in order to have capital, you need to find a job and start saving. Sure it is better, but the risk involved here is higher. There will be no "stability" in your income if you don't have a job. There might be a chance where the job that you "created" might end up failing. So it is better to have a job as a back up plan. Also while you work, you might also learn a thing or two on how to run a business or a company. Once you have saved enough, you can take the risk. And it is true, if you are able to form a business and it takes off, you will be doing much better than the job you had before. Watch others, learn first and then start one of your own.
Anything that makes money is always a risk, no matter if you are an owner or an employee. For example, during the pandemic a few years ago, both those who owned their own businesses and those who worked in other people's companies were affected. Many of them had to go out of business, many of them had to be laid off due to employee redundancies, all of which may not have been thought of before.
We must have more than one source of income, so if one of our sources of income is having problems, we still have other sources of income. Don't get stuck in your comfort zone, because usually that's what will make it dificult for you.
Of course everything has risks but that's how we make money, nothing is free from risk unless we remain silent.
Looking for other sources of main income is something that must be done to increase savings so that we can face problems in life that we don't want and cannot predict.

However, when it comes to work, we have choices and we must remember that everything will be worth it with all the risks and possibilities, but at least there is something more if we have our own business because the future prospects are much better than if we work for someone else.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Iroh on December 15, 2023, 08:26:23 AM
It is better to arrange your own job than to look for a job.  I always think that it is better to start a business on your own than to work under someone. If you can start a business by yourself, then you can employ five more unemployed people there.  Moreover, you said that the job market is very depressed now, it is really right. There are thousands of candidates for a job. This is because of the increase in population. You should do something innovative yourself without relying on anyone.  There are various businesses, which can be started with little capital. And if we get frustrated thinking that we will succeed before taking any risk, then it is not possible to do anything new in life.

It may be seem better to be an employer of labour yourself than to work for someone else and rightly so as having employees work under him, the employer works on his own time.
But not everyone can possibly be an employer of labour as it’s not everyone that’s cut out to be employers. It’s no easy feat starting and running a business as a good number of people lack managerial skills and work best being instructed on what to do.

With a government  that fails to plan, a rise in population could lead to a rise in unemployment numbers and also taking into consideration that there are people not willing to work and would prefer to rely on government handouts.
Any business that’s just starting up and finding its feet needs a lot of capital. You’ll be competing with already established businesses and would face a lot out challenges which would require money.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Franctoshi on December 15, 2023, 09:59:18 AM
Inventing a job is just like being self-employed and it makes you become independent, further create jobs for others and helps you have more time for yourself and hence become more productive and valuable to the society which comes through acquisition of a skill, But the system of education we have today has made it in such a way that people will tend to rely on finding job opportunities without creating or inventing one. With the fast-growing population of the world and where the unemployment rate has risen and more and more graduates are produced each year, job creation is simply the best option.




Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: rojan on December 15, 2023, 10:21:35 AM
It is better to arrange your own job than to look for a job.  I always think that it is better to start a business on your own than to work under someone. If you can start a business by yourself, then you can employ five more unemployed people there.  Moreover, you said that the job market is very depressed now, it is really right. There are thousands of candidates for a job. This is because of the increase in population. You should do something innovative yourself without relying on anyone.  There are various businesses, which can be started with little capital. And if we get frustrated thinking that we will succeed before taking any risk, then it is not possible to do anything new in life.
Now the job market is very bad, many youths are frustrated not to find a job even after studying for a long time and at the last minute to look for a job.  Because now it becomes very difficult to run a family with the salary that is earned by working. Therefore, if the business can be set up by itself, then some other people can be arranged to work there as well as they can live happily and peacefully with the family.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: KiaKia on December 15, 2023, 11:10:28 AM
Yes I support the motion that having your own job or business is better than working under someone, but remember that we all have to start from somewhere, some skills requires you to work under someone and learn from them, and if its something that no man has ever done before, like inventing something, this is even more harder to achieve as it will take a lot of time and you still need money to survive, while what you are still inventing isn't coughing up money to sustain yourself yet, you gotta to live isn't it?

The frustration of youths in my country is affecting them so much that they can't even sit down and invent anything new, and also not all what you invent will be successful, it has to be something that humans greatly needs and can't do without.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Minecache on December 15, 2023, 12:33:22 PM
It is better to arrange your own job than to look for a job.  I always think that it is better to start a business on your own than to work under someone. If you can start a business by yourself, then you can employ five more unemployed people there.  Moreover, you said that the job market is very depressed now, it is really right. There are thousands of candidates for a job. This is because of the increase in population. You should do something innovative yourself without relying on anyone.  There are various businesses, which can be started with little capital. And if we get frustrated thinking that we will succeed before taking any risk, then it is not possible to do anything new in life.
Now the job market is very bad, many youths are frustrated not to find a job even after studying for a long time and at the last minute to look for a job.  Because now it becomes very difficult to run a family with the salary that is earned by working. Therefore, if the business can be set up by itself, then some other people can be arranged to work there as well as they can live happily and peacefully with the family.

Those who tend to find jobs are often those who do not have the capital or experience to start a business. So if they have difficulty finding jobs and earning income, how can they open their own businesses and hire others to work for them? I believe that if everyone had a choice, no one would want to work for someone else, everyone would want to be their own boss to be free and make more money. But life is not as simple as we think and say, and that is why not too many people can do their own business and become boss.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: nara1892 on December 15, 2023, 12:57:50 PM
It is better to arrange your own job than to look for a job.  I always think that it is better to start a business on your own than to work under someone. If you can start a business by yourself, then you can employ five more unemployed people there.  Moreover, you said that the job market is very depressed now, it is really right. There are thousands of candidates for a job. This is because of the increase in population. You should do something innovative yourself without relying on anyone.  There are various businesses, which can be started with little capital. And if we get frustrated thinking that we will succeed before taking any risk, then it is not possible to do anything new in life.
Now the job market is very bad, many youths are frustrated not to find a job even after studying for a long time and at the last minute to look for a job.  Because now it becomes very difficult to run a family with the salary that is earned by working. Therefore, if the business can be set up by itself, then some other people can be arranged to work there as well as they can live happily and peacefully with the family.

Those who tend to find jobs are often those who do not have the capital or experience to start a business. So if they have difficulty finding jobs and earning income, how can they open their own businesses and hire others to work for them? I believe that if everyone had a choice, no one would want to work for someone else, everyone would want to be their own boss to be free and make more money. But life is not as simple as we think and say, and that is why not too many people can do their own business and become boss.

Right, that's usually the case and you've already said one of the reasons why they prefer to look for a job rather than build their own business, low financial capability is the main factor that makes them unable to do something like that or I mean unable to build their own business. I think this has become a very common thing, but sometimes there are also those who still work for other people but they have their own business at home whether it's opening a food shop or whatever it might be managed by one of their family members such as their wife.

Obviously they won't be able to build or open their own business if they basically don't have a job to raise capital for the purpose of opening their business, that's a fact and maybe I would only say it's possible if they are one of the children of rich people where there is a role of both parents who provide them with capital. But if you are not one of them then obviously you will find it difficult to be able to build your own business especially if you do not have a main job.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: wmaurik on December 15, 2023, 12:58:46 PM
It is better to invent a job that suits your situation and skills. Getting a job at the present time is no longer easy at all.
But creating your own business is not that easy. It requires skill and may require capital as well.
Almost all businesses nowadays require capital, even if they are very small businesses, so apart from considering initial capital, there must also be other considerations such as experience and skills in running it. Meanwhile, working at someone else's place also requires capital, even if it's just petrol for your motorbike when you want to go to work in the morning, unless the distance is very close to walk. However, I have also long realized that finding work is very difficult nowadays, so we should be grateful for any job that can make money.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Mahanton on December 15, 2023, 01:07:32 PM
It is better to arrange your own job than to look for a job.  I always think that it is better to start a business on your own than to work under someone. If you can start a business by yourself, then you can employ five more unemployed people there.  Moreover, you said that the job market is very depressed now, it is really right. There are thousands of candidates for a job. This is because of the increase in population. You should do something innovative yourself without relying on anyone.  There are various businesses, which can be started with little capital. And if we get frustrated thinking that we will succeed before taking any risk, then it is not possible to do anything new in life.
Now the job market is very bad, many youths are frustrated not to find a job even after studying for a long time and at the last minute to look for a job.  Because now it becomes very difficult to run a family with the salary that is earned by working. Therefore, if the business can be set up by itself, then some other people can be arranged to work there as well as they can live happily and peacefully with the family.

Those who tend to find jobs are often those who do not have the capital or experience to start a business. So if they have difficulty finding jobs and earning income, how can they open their own businesses and hire others to work for them? I believe that if everyone had a choice, no one would want to work for someone else, everyone would want to be their own boss to be free and make more money. But life is not as simple as we think and say, and that is why not too many people can do their own business and become boss.
Thats the normal cycle of life on which each individual wont really be the same if we do speak about opportunities on which there would really be those people who are really that having no choice because they cant really be able to make themselves to have some business because of lacking of capital. This is why they dont really have no choice but to seek for some job and would be able to earn money. How we would be able to survive if we dont really have no jobs or works? It might be that totally not a good thing for you to work for others but since we dont have no choice then we would really be just simply wanting to earn for us to survive.

Yes, we do really love on having a life on which we do really need or like on having that independence but there are really just things in life that we cant really be able to alter because of the reality that we are facing.
Somewhat it doesnt mean that if there's no chance for us to have that kind of progress. Just make yourself that be taking up those small steps and not that one time because if  you do find yourself that too much in a rush then you would really be finding up yourself on possible tons of mistakes due to not be able to think up carefully.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 15, 2023, 05:04:01 PM
Inventing a job is just like being self-employed and it makes you become independent, further create jobs for others and helps you have more time for yourself and hence become more productive and valuable to the society which comes through acquisition of a skill, But the system of education we have today has made it in such a way that people will tend to rely on finding job opportunities without creating or inventing one. With the fast-growing population of the world and where the unemployment rate has risen and more and more graduates are produced each year, job creation is simply the best option.

@Franctoshi, You are right with everything you have said, but for the statement I bolded, I basically think that it depends on the region where someone comes from; that's what will actually make them feel oriented, convinced, influenced, and filled with enthusiasm to create a job and be self-employed rather than depending on a white collar job.

Let me digress a little. While I was younger, I engaged in learning a trade, and the reason why I picked interest in it was because my grandmother was a trader, and each time she comes back from her business, she always counts a lot of money, and sometimes I will help her count. We count a lot of money every day, and it made me always have the thought of being in the same position where I will be doing my own business and getting a continuous inflow and outflow of cash every day.

After I graduated from the university some years ago, I quickly jumped into my own business with the money I saved up and also with the help I got from my relatives.

Today I am running my business. Despite that it's a furniture business I am doing, I don't sell every day, but any time I sell, I get a significant profit.

So, what actually gave me the zeal to start a business was because my grandma was doing and making money on a daily basis, so I just thought it'd be wise for me to be in the same position instead of having to work for 27–30 days before I receive payment. Some people come from a family or region where they are only convinced to go to school, grab some degrees, and look for a job, while some companies where they will still work are owned by someone who doesn't have many degrees like them (the employees).


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Woodie on December 15, 2023, 05:23:51 PM
Let's just say both have their pros and Cons, and besides if you are some ready to go out of your comfort zone then inventing your own job is a good challenge and high rewarding if it works out otherwise the safer route is finding a job though competition for jobs out there is real...

Btw, Creating your own job is the best because you work with your own rules, and financially you are not limited to how much you can make in terms of a salary  or revenue, but the only disadvantage to this is that when bad days follow you might not have any money unlike going with a Job that will pay you in both good and bad spells of the company or services offered.






Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: junder on December 15, 2023, 06:38:46 PM
It is better to invent a job that suits your situation and skills. Getting a job at the present time is no longer easy at all.
But creating your own business is not that easy. It requires skill and may require capital as well.
Almost all businesses nowadays require capital, even if they are very small businesses, so apart from considering initial capital, there must also be other considerations such as experience and skills in running it. Meanwhile, working at someone else's place also requires capital, even if it's just petrol for your motorbike when you want to go to work in the morning, unless the distance is very close to walk. However, I have also long realized that finding work is very difficult nowadays, so we should be grateful for any job that can make money.

yes you are right, not only with the capital that must be owned, they must also have the skills and confidence in what they will do in the future because in my opinion starting a business must be done seriously not just for trial and error. even with a small capital that ranges from failure but it is not recommended to be an obstacle in starting a business, do it as well as possible do not care about small capital, because no matter how small the business is run we are the boss, so we must take full responsibility for everything.

It is important to manage everything well even though with small capital it doesn't matter, if it is run well it will definitely produce later and indeed a business must generate profits for ourselves primarily. I myself prefer to open my own business because I want to open up jobs to invite my friends and close relatives who are unemployed.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: cozytrade on December 16, 2023, 01:50:59 PM
It is better to arrange your own job than to look for a job.  I always think that it is better to start a business on your own than to work under someone. If you can start a business by yourself, then you can employ five more unemployed people there.  Moreover, you said that the job market is very depressed now, it is really right. There are thousands of candidates for a job. This is because of the increase in population. You should do something innovative yourself without relying on anyone.  There are various businesses, which can be started with little capital. And if we get frustrated thinking that we will succeed before taking any risk, then it is not possible to do anything new in life.
I totally agree with you. Because it is best if you can do something by yourself. If you can do small business by yourself there is no extra hassle like you can manage your business as you like. Whenever you are under someone else.  You won't have any freedom when you work. I don't like it at all. I want to work independently and do something good by managing my own business. So I decided to start a small business from now on and try to grow it slowly.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on December 16, 2023, 03:52:21 PM

I totally agree with you. Because it is best if you can do something by yourself. If you can do small business by yourself there is no extra hassle like you can manage your business as you like. Whenever you are under someone else.  You won't have any freedom when you work. I don't like it at all. I want to work independently and do something good by managing my own business. So I decided to start a small business from now on and try to grow it slowly.

Having your own business idea is not a bad thing but you need to have experience and knowledge of any startup. Not that we will succeed in every business we decide to start.Deciding to start our own business is easy, but not so easy to see it through to completion.

When you work under others, you don’t have freedom, but you don’t get total freedom in your work, but you always have to manage your work. You are not responsible when you are working under others, but in your own business, you are fully responsible and you need to understand all these things. So it is not just an idea but a lot of hard work and effort is needed otherwise it can be a loss for you.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: bitLeap on December 17, 2023, 04:32:30 PM
Anything that makes money is always a risk, no matter if you are an owner or an employee. For example, during the pandemic a few years ago, both those who owned their own businesses and those who worked in other people's companies were affected. Many of them had to go out of business, many of them had to be laid off due to employee redundancies, all of which may not have been thought of before.
We must have more than one source of income, so if one of our sources of income is having problems, we still have other sources of income. Don't get stuck in your comfort zone, because usually that's what will make it dificult for you.
Of course everything has risks but that's how we make money, nothing is free from risk unless we remain silent.
Looking for other sources of main income is something that must be done to increase savings so that we can face problems in life that we don't want and cannot predict.

However, when it comes to work, we have choices and we must remember that everything will be worth it with all the risks and possibilities, but at least there is something more if we have our own business because the future prospects are much better than if we work for someone else.
However, the problem is that now many of them are only focused on looking for work rather than starting their own busines, and what happens is that the job they want does not exist and they don't have a business either. In my own country it is now very difficult to get a job, and once you get a job you have to use money to be accepted by a company, and the amount is not a cheap amount. Just imagine, if we want to join that company, we are required to pay a sum of money which in total is equivalent to 3 or even 4 month of our salary at that company.
I don't deny that there will be many obstacles if we want to have our own busines, but we will never experience this if we never try. And if we don't want to try, we will never progress.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Alpha Marine on December 18, 2023, 03:28:19 PM
It is better to arrange your own job than to look for a job.  I always think that it is better to start a business on your own than to work under someone. If you can start a business by yourself, then you can employ five more unemployed people there.  Moreover, you said that the job market is very depressed now, it is really right. There are thousands of candidates for a job. This is because of the increase in population. You should do something innovative yourself without relying on anyone. 

You need capital to start a business. Since no financial institution or anybody else would give me a loan how do I get capital when I can't get a job to help me raise capital?
Let's assume I have the capital, but I'm not the type that can run a business what do I do then? Because if I do start a business I'll run it poorly and end up wasting money.

I don't think everybody needs to own a business. What I feel everybody needs to have in today's market is a skill. It could either be a digital skill or other skills, it doesn't matter, but just get a skill.

The unemployment rate in some countries is just below 5%, so people in those countries don't have to stay jobless for a long time after college. Even if the unemployment rate was up to 10%, it wouldn't be too much of a problem, but when the unemployment rate goes up to above 10% and in some countries 20-40% it becomes a problem. People in countries like that should get skills that make them stand out.
Employers of developed countries always outsource employees outside the country, if you have skills and are good at what you do, you stand a chance to earn by working for foreign companies from home.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: Accardo on December 19, 2023, 01:19:18 PM
It is better to arrange your own job than to look for a job.  I always think that it is better to start a business on your own than to work under someone. If you can start a business by yourself, then you can employ five more unemployed people there.  Moreover, you said that the job market is very depressed now, it is really right. There are thousands of candidates for a job. This is because of the increase in population. You should do something innovative yourself without relying on anyone.  There are various businesses, which can be started with little capital. And if we get frustrated thinking that we will succeed before taking any risk, then it is not possible to do anything new in life.
I totally agree with you. Because it is best if you can do something by yourself. If you can do small business by yourself there is no extra hassle like you can manage your business as you like. Whenever you are under someone else.  You won't have any freedom when you work. I don't like it at all. I want to work independently and do something good by managing my own business. So I decided to start a small business from now on and try to grow it slowly.

The difference between the rich and the poor is a decision. Whatever decision a man makes will define where he will be in the future. Becoming rich or poor does not depend on being your boss alone. Employees also get rich if they can manage their earnings. In the race of becoming a boss it relies on the person's skill in money management. Working in a good company can yield more profits for the person than a boss who chooses to run his business. Competence matters in all departments. Some hackers and programmers working for Facebook earn close to 2k dollars per hour. Isn't it quite a huge money for most CEOs around the world running a business? In whatever decision we make it's important to be competent and strive to be the best. With the rate of problems in the world market, inflation and unemployment, and hikes in the prices of products, running a business requires competent people.

That's why most people who think they can't do it perfectly choose to get employed in an already existing company. However starting a business with 5 employees depends on the budget of the employer. Five employees are quite too big unless their services are needed in the business. An entrepreneur can decide to start on his own, and then expand gradually to 2 or 3 employees. Expanding quickly affects the growth of many businesses and has caused lots of successful businesses. Renting big office spaces and relocating brings down companies, as the money used to run a company shouldn't be spent in high numbers. If you want to run a company or business, make sure that the money left after expanding is enough to cover for few extra years' expenses. Mistakes of moving too fast to appear big have led to the delay of employee salaries for some companies. These workers are the pillars of the company if they choose to reduce the productivity of the venture, customers will begin to decline thereby collapsing the company.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: wmaurik on December 19, 2023, 10:51:35 PM
I totally agree with you. Because it is best if you can do something by yourself. If you can do small business by yourself there is no extra hassle like you can manage your business as you like. Whenever you are under someone else.  You won't have any freedom when you work. I don't like it at all. I want to work independently and do something good by managing my own business. So I decided to start a small business from now on and try to grow it slowly.

When you start making decisions like that because you don't want to be under someone else's orders, you also have to have very good time discipline because developing a business also requires setting targets by not wasting more time. Even though you can run the business however you like because you have full control over your own business with a level of freedom that is completely your own without thinking about orders from other people.

Becoming independent by setting up our own business can indeed be quite the right choice if we can utilize time and environmental conditions well enough, because new businesses that have not yet developed need to have a mission so that the journey can be more enjoyable with the level of development that we want. But if you are not able to discipline your time well enough and are not able to target customers from all walks of life well enough at every moment, I think the development you want will also be difficult for your business to happen.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: RockBell on December 20, 2023, 08:15:27 AM
I totally agree with you. Because it is best if you can do something by yourself. If you can do small business by yourself there is no extra hassle like you can manage your business as you like. Whenever you are under someone else.  You won't have any freedom when you work. I don't like it at all. I want to work independently and do something good by managing my own business. So I decided to start a small business from now on and try to grow it slowly.

And that is why, when I see young people looking for work, I am always saddened because there are ways you can employ yourself and be free from job hunting before graduating from school. If I recall correctly, we were taught a course on Entrepreneurship and were assigned a mini project and asked everyone to work on a business plan, and that this project is for everyone to work on after graduation, and the question is how many people will do that, and that is one of the ways we can reduce unemployment. And there are people that love their job but no matter the passion that freedom is always there and you must be answerable to people not fun at all.
When you start making decisions like that because you don't want to be under someone else's orders, you also have to have very good time discipline because developing a business also requires setting targets by not wasting more time. Even though you can run the business however you like because you have full control over your own business with a level of freedom that is completely your own without thinking about orders from other people.

Becoming independent by setting up our own business can indeed be quite the right choice if we can utilize time and environmental conditions well enough, because new businesses that have not yet developed need to have a mission so that the journey can be more enjoyable with the level of development that we want. But if you are not able to discipline your time well enough and are not able to target customers from all walks of life well enough at every moment, I think the development you want will also be difficult for your business to happen.
They are very interesting ways that when you are not under anyone you can discipline yourself and there are plenty of things you will learn and keep learning and that will help you grow and your management skill will have increased significantly, target is very important because that is one of the ways your business can grow you look for strategies to grow your business in terms of advertisement and initiating strategies. There are young people who started their own businesses and became millionaires all it takes is that first step. And time management is always important because many people have poor time management skills and are always too lazy to go to their business centers, which is detrimental to business.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: slapper on December 20, 2023, 11:34:14 AM
It is better to arrange your own job than to look for a job.  I always think that it is better to start a business on your own than to work under someone. If you can start a business by yourself, then you can employ five more unemployed people there.  Moreover, you said that the job market is very depressed now, it is really right. There are thousands of candidates for a job. This is because of the increase in population. You should do something innovative yourself without relying on anyone.  There are various businesses, which can be started with little capital. And if we get frustrated thinking that we will succeed before taking any risk, then it is not possible to do anything new in life.
I totally agree with you. Because it is best if you can do something by yourself. If you can do small business by yourself there is no extra hassle like you can manage your business as you like. Whenever you are under someone else.  You won't have any freedom when you work. I don't like it at all. I want to work independently and do something good by managing my own business. So I decided to start a small business from now on and try to grow it slowly.

The difference between the rich and the poor is a decision. Whatever decision a man makes will define where he will be in the future. Becoming rich or poor does not depend on being your boss alone. Employees also get rich if they can manage their earnings. In the race of becoming a boss it relies on the person's skill in money management. Working in a good company can yield more profits for the person than a boss who chooses to run his business. Competence matters in all departments. Some hackers and programmers working for Facebook earn close to 2k dollars per hour. Isn't it quite a huge money for most CEOs around the world running a business? In whatever decision we make it's important to be competent and strive to be the best. With the rate of problems in the world market, inflation and unemployment, and hikes in the prices of products, running a business requires competent people.

That's why most people who think they can't do it perfectly choose to get employed in an already existing company. However starting a business with 5 employees depends on the budget of the employer. Five employees are quite too big unless their services are needed in the business. An entrepreneur can decide to start on his own, and then expand gradually to 2 or 3 employees. Expanding quickly affects the growth of many businesses and has caused lots of successful businesses. Renting big office spaces and relocating brings down companies, as the money used to run a company shouldn't be spent in high numbers. If you want to run a company or business, make sure that the money left after expanding is enough to cover for few extra years' expenses. Mistakes of moving too fast to appear big have led to the delay of employee salaries for some companies. These workers are the pillars of the company if they choose to reduce the productivity of the venture, customers will begin to decline thereby collapsing the company.
Let's debunk this myth: rich and poor decision-making isn't black and white. There are many options, conditions, and, most importantly, information. Financial literacy, not simply management or employment. To be honest, the rich usually start first. They utilize assets, analyze markets, and seize opportunities. It's their playground! Meanwhile, many struggle with the basics of managing finances. Creating money is a skill largely disregarded in our educational institutions.

Moving on, competence rules in any area. Not only is professional competence important, but so is financial awareness. Programmers making big bucks? Besides coding, they're financial ninjas who know where to invest their money. Slow and steady wins the race for novice entrepreneurs. Not simply caution; strategic growth. By focusing on sustainable growth and avoiding the temptation to appear huge, they're playing the long game. Rich people understand compound growth in business and investments, which sets them apart. As an employee or business, each move should be calibrated to achieve financial security.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: zaim7413 on December 20, 2023, 12:51:59 PM
All people who have jobs in a positive context are very happy and satisfied with the path they have chosen. Maybe the job he is pursuing now is his childhood dream. When their dreams come true, they will be very happy and carry out the work without the slightest burden.

Life is a choice, everyone is free to have a job that they think can bring happiness. For me, the work that brings me the most joy is the work that I create myself. Building a small business such as a home industry, or buying natural products on a certain scale and then distributing them again to traditional markets.
Apart from being able to make a profit from the work I create myself, I can also employ other people. In my opinion, Inventing a job is better than finding a job. When you succeed in inventing a new job, people looking for work will come to you.


Title: Re: Inventing a job is better than finding a job
Post by: leonair on December 20, 2023, 01:25:00 PM
All people who have jobs in a positive context are very happy and satisfied with the path they have chosen. Maybe the job he is pursuing now is his childhood dream. When their dreams come true, they will be very happy and carry out the work without the slightest burden.

Life is a choice, everyone is free to have a job that they think can bring happiness. For me, the work that brings me the most joy is the work that I create myself. Building a small business such as a home industry, or buying natural products on a certain scale and then distributing them again to traditional markets.
Apart from being able to make a profit from the work I create myself, I can also employ other people. In my opinion, Inventing a job is better than finding a job. When you succeed in inventing a new job, people looking for work will come to you.
Tonight they are looking for a job and their aim is to support their family with the fixed salary they will get every month. Because they do not have enough money to start a business and after starting a business it is not possible to get profit from it. It takes at least 6 months to start earning from a business. Due to which it is not possible for everyone to invest in a business. And because of this common people always run after job. Of course it is better to invest in a business than to find a job if he has enough money. It will depend on one's financial status what one should do