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There are those who complain (beginner/newbie/people who are struggling to rise in rank) about their hard work on the bitcointalk forum, because their expectations are not as smooth as expected, ::) indeed the cycle of luck is place=>ability=>readiness=>opportunity=>achievement.

Please tell me, is luck not included in the travel category? I mean this, established accounts example's  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476688.msg63275478#msg63275478) suddenly left, for me his profile reflects producing the best merit in the three years when it was first created. Example two  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282911.msg55407286#msg55407286) makes me very confused. I'm not talking about reputation but about decision-making when all users are familiar with him.

Please tell me, what are the regulations in your country that trigger this kind of thing?
Is the bitcointalk account too public?
I am very curious about this condition, they are great people.

I so regret that because of the two different conditions and the two sides that have been achieved, I have a lot of time to wonder to myself ;) if there are reasons about the state or certain regulations may require people to take compliance, and I regret it very much.

In terms of account growth, using the examples mentioned, I think knowledge played a very vital role in the way their account was being recognised over that period of time.
 
When it comes to leaving the forum, we all have our own personal things going on in our lives, and most times is it better, we don't let them out in the open. Most times we can also let them out to the public and seek their opinion, but it's our personal life, so it's private to us, and we don't need anyone to know about it in an open space.
 
The same way we have free means of entering the forum without any government or individual approval, so I see it as the same way anyone can leave the forum, irrespective of what reputation they have gathered;
 
It's their choice, which I can't stand to question. The good part among the two mentioned members is that they announce their existence, which will save a lot of stress in the future from their accounts being hacked and impersonated.
 
Maybe the second user's account will be tagged or locked, to avoid it being hacked and used by anyone, just like that of your 1st example.

When you have this question about that user, have you ever questioned that why Satoshi Nakamoto left the forum and disappeared everywhere as well?

Nobody can answer it and the only fact we can say, and I believe it is always true, every Bitcointalk member have their own life, beyond the forum. By this, they have many different reasons to leave the forum.

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Struggle to rank up?

Reason is they did not contribute enough to rank up. If they have good contributions, ranking up is not a big challenge for them.

Leaving a forum is just the same as leaving Facebook or other social media platform. People just do it. Doesn't have to have a very deep reason. I think that the people who are actually here to contribute to bitcoin discussions don't care too much about their rank or merit status.

When it comes to ranking up, I doubt the concept of the merit system gives much way to luck. You only rank up when you get up to a particular number of merit and to get that number of merit requires that you have made a reasonable amount of quantity post that has the tendency of yielding merits.

No doubt, it can get frustrating at times and if care is not taken one can become seriously uninterested in the forum and might even give up along the way. But knowing that nothing good comes that easy should be your motivating and should guide you to put in the needed effort in making quality post and replies that will get you merited

It's not always easy but I think it's a good thing that encourage one to bring out the smartness in them if you have the intention of ranking up anytime soon.

Different person have unique approach when it comes to account growth in terms of merits. We can say some are lucky or very good when it comes to technical discussion. With dozens of post created daily, its natural that not all are gonna given merits depends on its quality of post. Newbies only complain if they dont understand what quality means. Some even got merit with a slight response but that is probably helpful for others. Before clicking something make sure you are contributing in a simplest or even helpful way. Theres no path to success right away.  You as a user just need to put up some effort or analyze well some topics.

Why do you conclude that someone leaves this forum because of some laws/regulations in the country where they live? These accounts are real people with real life problems, and most of them put their real life before what they do in the online world. I don't want to speculate at all about why someone left the forum, but I know several reasons for which I would do the same, although I hope that none of that will happen to me in my life.

Newbie struggle to rise up their rank its because they don't have enough knowledge about everything discussed here in forum. If they became more experience and knowledgeable for sure they can reach their goals especially to rank up in this forum.

Also everyone has their own reason why they left in this forum and for sure anyone not only him will came to that point especially if the reason is so important than anything else. Also its not about what they build here but rather those important aspects in life maybe they see more better opportunity outside that's why they suddenly left. And we should not feel bad about it since for sure the person you put as example is for sure happy for his decision made.

The only requirements need to reach your desired rank is to do a lot of research since everything will be placed in right time especially if lot of people see you as good contributor of this forum and for sure you provably receive those merit that you wanted.

So it's wrong for established account to leave the forum? where's the contract that the established account must work in this forum for 100 years? :D

Speaking about the beginners struggle to rank up, it's just an excuse because nowadays beginners are easier to rank up than before.

When they achieve 8 merits, they will get extra 2 merits to become Member rank.
When they achieve 80 merits, they will get extra 20 merits to become Full Member.
When they achieve 200 merits, they will get extra 50 merits to become Senior Member.

But, if they make a report to merit sources who want to help users that lack of merits to rank up and there's nothing wrong with that.

We should understand that there is life outside the forum. This forum is just a discussion platform where people share and gain knowledge about the crypto space. People engage in other engagements outside the forum that might make them stop posting on the forum, so it is not necessarily government policy. Some members might have secured a more demanding job that gives them no time to engage in discussions. Others might want to go back to school or pursue a skill and they need time to focus.

Members of the forum also take their privacy seriously so we might never know why they left the forum. Like in the case of BlackHatCoiner, where he just started a goodbye thread and locked it immediately because he didn't want any discussion. However, I saw a member who is taking a break from the forum because of health issues.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401996.msg63281572#msg63281572)health issues. The forum is a free community that you can walk in and walk out at will.

Why did you labeled their exit as "easy"? Any basis? I am sure it wasn't the case for them :)
He did have his personal reasons, I am curious why he left.


Bitcointalk accounts are not too public, guests will can only view your posts, avatar, profile summary, and your signature. They won't be able to see your merit history as well as the your Trust status.
Anyway, I don't see any relevant connection between beginners' struggle on ranking up and established accounts decision to leave the forum. Do not force these two to be relevant on one another.

I guess many people leave their account for a while for business purposes which, I have seen many CEO in my community who raise capital through signature campaign to established those business and the business is taking them more time for them not to have chance to be active in the forum as usual. I believe, a time will come you will not be active the way you are active now to rank up your account to senior member because, you want to use your account to make some money and look for a good company to establish that will be bringing you money into your bank account.

If my account reach legendary, I don't think anything will make me not to be active in this forum not to make some money but the only thing that can stop me if God permit is sickness which such thing will never come close to me till I grow old to fulfill my destiny.

Like most people use to say "their is life outside forum" and a beautiful one at that. Lots of persons have other things on going in their outside life from the forum here and they don't deem their reputation to be all and all in the forum here. Many people who have grown their reputation here can still decide to leave whenever they feel to so these reputable account leaving the forum must have specific reason for doing so.

Obviously, luck does matter in every travel of our life but I one thing should must be included and that is hard work, luck will bring favor in your journey only when you work hard.

As far as I can see both of them are very reputable members of the forum, they have many good contributions to the forum. However, they may have this much freedom, they have to leave the forum due to their personal or personal reasons

In simple words, in my country, those involved with Bitcoin or cryptocurrency are sometimes sent to jail as defendants. So now find out if my country's regulations trigger such actions. ;D

I don't think Bitcointalk account is so public. Because most of the users in our forum tend to hide their identity. Moreover, due to the rules and regulations of many countries, they keep many of their information secret. If I speak for myself, I don't enter the forum publicly unless I need an urgent . Moreover, there are very few people in my friend zone who know my forum account. And now I regret the mistake of telling them about my forum account.  :-X

Well we can only speculate why those two distinguished members leave the community and others. Maybe they have their personal reasons or just feed up on what is going on with the community, specially the latest one that our dear administrator Theymos has to say about mixer here. We might or might not agree with this decision, and perhaps those who are not agreement chooses to just go out moving forward with their lives outside of the forum, simply as that.

I'm not sure that luck has something to do with it though, yeah they got a lot of merits but so are others who are still here.

There are different perspective of looking at the forum - as an encyclopedia of knowledge or as a medium to make money and improve your economic condition. Whatever the latter means.

We shouldn't take things here very seriously. The forum is just a virtual world not a real place. People here have careers, jobs, families , hobbies and other things that is going on for them out there.

When you use the word, "struggle" it seems as if this is a full-time job. Why should you struggle to rank up. You are here - learn, grow, contribute meaningfully and that it is.

I have seen that those who leave either through announcements or silently, stopped finding satisfactions and fulfillment here.

@OP your example simply means there is life outside the forum. Established accounts that leave suddenly means that they have important matters to attend to outside the forum.  For whatever reason they have, I believe they value their reason way much more than interacting in this forum.

But I still wonder why one have to say goodbye when they can just be idle or inactive for a while and then come back if they feel to interact with the forum members again.  The forum does not remove accounts that is idle for a very long time...

This platform is made up of many people from different walks of life. Many are here for different reasons best known to them and after they have achieved their goals, they take a bow and leave for other engagements.

Outside this platform, there are lots of activities going on and when one decides to call it a quit, they are best at their own decisions and would act accordingly to what they desire to do.

Possibly, if one says goodbye, they must have said that for a reason best known to them and if they decide to share it here, it is their own decisions but I believe whatever ever the case maybe is best known to them but their legacies speaks of great volume her for the names you have mentioned so I am not surprised to see the turn up for such accounts as their knowledge and impart contributed to the further development and establishment of this platform. But as for the new beginners, they would have to show themselves approved before attaining that height and status they desire.  It is not a day work but with time, commitment and consistency.

There are many accounts that are no longer active on the forum. Not everyone makes a thread about their possible absence from the forum, for example TheBeardedbaby came back after being offline for a while. Not everyone noticed because he didn’t make it public. I remember NotATether (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392605.msg59723001#msg59723001) also took a break from the forum and returned after several months. People leave or take a break from the forum for various personal reasons. I don’t think it has anything to do with government policies or restrictions.

Everyone has different reasons for leaving things they have or got, and this time we discuss how an account owner just leaves ownership of his or her forum account. Maybe they have a busy day in their real life or maybe they have focused on a project they built themselves, and many other reasons. Regarding low accounts who are struggling to increase their account ranking, believe me, all members on this forum have been in the same situation, so everyone must be prepared to learn regularly from the bottom up. broadening your knowledge about cryptocurrencies and bitcoin, as well as other topics, is a must imo.

Anything won't prevent you from using Bitcointalk anyway unless you leave it yourself. Bitcointalk could be used through the Tor browser as well, so any regulations won't prevent you from using it. Those who are leaving the forum, personal reasons are forced to leave it. We shouldn't think negatively about it. They might come back when they feel they need it or never come back. We all have a personal life, and we could live as we want. Rank or earning merits aren't facts here.

I think everyone has there reasons for any action they take concerning forum activities. Whatever decision people take here, they do for personal interest not for government issue. Here is just like a company were we work and get paid for the job we do. You can decide to take a break.  there is a need because the forum can not give you a rest or sick leave. You are the owner of your body and decides on how to manage it at any given time.

The people you listed above have there reasons to leave, but the second person is quite complicated, because he sounded as who is about to die. parhaps an accultic man who's time is up. But no matter what happens respect should be given to who deserves it. Most people came here to learn, some came to impact knowledge, some came to earn merit to grow in rank and start aiming money. Some only came here as an alternative to there business outside the forum. So whatever choices people made is best for them.  I know many will be thinking how on Earth will this grow account will just end like this, while newbies are struggling to rank up. But one thing is for sure. Whatever thing you are today is as a result of your hard work.

And you can decide on how you use whatever you have achieved. Just like someone who has graduated from a higher institution with high grade and decide not to work in any firm with his certificate. Why many who have not attend to that extent, will be woundering why such a waste of certificate.

The statement goes that avoiding accounts being hacked is a good idea, as the names can be similar but not the characters. Satoshi did not declare his resignation and he only left the forum temporarily and may still be active in the future. Some might argue that Forums are a place similar to other social media, albeit different in terms of responsibility, income, reputation. But social media doesn't really need this. I mean social media identities are so open without being asked and without being about anything as sensitive as the above.

Indeed, self-development will be better and more useful for many people if applied in the daily world, and vice versa, it will be an added value for the forum, for those who are looking for information. Any contribution is appreciated and I admit that it makes people feel like there is reciprocity even if it is a different process.

Whatever reasons and decisions are best for themselves, for me even if it's just to read other people's threads, I don't want to leave this forum, even though there are responsibilities in the real world or in other forums.

Everyone can copy in which threads to reply to, or learn from but the quality of thinking and response is different, including in building reputation. Moreover, the global merit help thread is almost all locked at the moment, the warriors rely on the laws of nature that will give the opportunity to compete 10:1.

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The outline is the same, indeed the account will not be forfeited and does not have an active period but I regret the meaning of farewell, even though whenever if they wish to return we will all probably welcome :)

I think the thread is enough and I will lock it, thank you all for your great responses.