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Title: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: alani123 on December 10, 2023, 06:01:18 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Oshosondy on December 10, 2023, 06:08:04 PM
Not possible for a gambling addict to quit slowly. If gambling is a problem, the best is to just quit. After he quits, he can start to gamble again after a year. If he sees that he is still gambling in a way he waste money on it, he can quite again. This is how I stopped my gambling addiction.

But if the gambler do not quit and not able to quit, he needs something like rehabilitation program or medical consultant.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: South Park on December 10, 2023, 06:20:24 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
That has always been my belief, when it comes to those that are addicted to a drug they need to still receive small amounts of that drug for a time so their body does not go through some heavy withdrawal symptoms, which for what I have read it is an awful experience to go through, but for someone that is addicted to video games or gambling this is a step that can be skipped and they need to quit on the spot, as this is the best way for them to actually have a chance to make a recovery.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Yatsan on December 10, 2023, 06:22:06 PM
Not possible for a gambling addict to quit slowly. If gambling is a problem, the best is to just quit. After he quits, he can start to gamble again after a year. If he sees that he is still gambling in a way he waste money on it, he can quite again. This is how I stopped my gambling addiction.

But if the gambler do not quit and not able to quit, he needs something like rehabilitation program or medical consultant.
Good that you managed quitting in such way. But since we are talking about addiction, nothing will happen in an instant since it is an impulsive action. You have to surface awareness first before being able to stop if you want to. And if you managed to stop in a short period of time then probably you are not yet addicted to it. Same thing with vices; gradual quitting would be better to avoid culture shock and lack of control with your actions. Addiction as well means that you are spending huge amount of time to such behavior; a learned one. In order to completely unlearn something means slowly changing what you are used to, in order to still cover the tome spent on a daily basis with the things you are addicted of.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: virasisog on December 10, 2023, 06:29:02 PM
Just like any addiction, quitting cold turkey is not that easy as it'll have withdrawal symptoms like anxiety or depression. I think it's best if you'll do it slowly and properly by starting to limit the money and time you spend in gambling, reducing it little by little until you get used on losing your urge and thirst in gambling. It's hard to deal with withdrawal symptoms once you try to quit cold turkey, the relapse might be worse and you'll get back to your old habit without even noticing it.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: abel1337 on December 10, 2023, 06:32:25 PM
Not possible for a gambling addict to quit slowly. If gambling is a problem, the best is to just quit. After he quits, he can start to gamble again after a year. If he sees that he is still gambling in a way he waste money on it, he can quite again. This is how I stopped my gambling addiction.

But if the gambler do not quit and not able to quit, he needs something like rehabilitation program or medical consultant.
It became possible when I did quit slowly. I tried to quit gambling instantly and I experience a withdrawal from it and gamble more as a result. We may all have different experiences but quitting slowly works on me. What I mean of quitting slowly is years of gambling but gaining a progress of having a good decipline until I can control myself of not partaking in any gambling activities if I want to. I can consider myself as an ex-gambling addict because the strategy works on me.

We all have different life status and I think it is better to try and try until you find the best suited way for you to quit gambling.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Lakai01 on December 10, 2023, 06:35:17 PM
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It's hard to deal with withdrawal symptoms once you try to quit cold turkey, the relapse might be worse and you'll get back to your old habit without even noticing it.
This usually depends very much on how deep you are already in the addiction. For example, someone who only smokes one pack of cigarettes a week can quit much more easily than someone who needs one pack a day.
The same applies to (classic) gambling addiction. Someone who is heavily addicted will probably not be able to stop at all without professional help. However, someone who gambles from time to time can certainly cope with "cold turkey" because, as you rightly say, addiction symptoms can occur to a greater or lesser extent in heavily addicted people.

By the way, if someone wants to quit cold turkey, it helps enormously to tell as many people as possible that you are quitting. This puts a lot more pressure on yourself to follow through, as it would be very difficult to admit to others that you haven't managed it.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: shield132 on December 10, 2023, 06:36:42 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Cold turkey never works. If you are an addicted gambler, you can't immediately quit gambling because you think about gambling all the time. Also, gambling tapering doesn't work like low your budget and over time you'll become free from addiction. When you are addicted to gambling, you should try to occupy your free time by doing your other hobbies or find a new job or walk in the park, you have to do something different and entertaining in your life to smoothly get away from your addiction. One best way is to spend less time every time you gamble. Gamble for 4 hours instead of 5, then gamble 30 minutes less in next week, then 30 minutes less and in near future one will smoothly solve this problem. Cold turkey is impossible for many people.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: GiftedMAN on December 10, 2023, 06:39:43 PM
Addiction is something we all have to deal with because it is never easy for us to cope with addiction which is something that could affect us severely. Gambling is just a way we can play games for the sake of making profits. One of the reasons why we bet is for us to make profits and sometimes we could be pressure to bet excessively which have huge effect on us. This is one of the ways many people end up getting addicted to gambling. Gambling is cool for everyone but when it is becoming an addiction then we need to halt the way we bet so we don't get too freak about it. We should for us on why we are betting but not to be excessive.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: BitcoinPanther on December 10, 2023, 06:48:58 PM
Quitting in gambling abruptly may be difficult especially when a person had a deeply rooted gambling addiction.  They may stop abruptly for some times but the possibility of a relapse is huge since they had not been rehabilitated properly.

Quitting cold turkey somehow needs a third party assistant in order to maintain their distance from gambling activities.  They need diversion to keep them busy so that they can't be tempted to go with their gambling activities again.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Findingnemo on December 10, 2023, 06:51:41 PM

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

That is the best possible way but it isn't that easy or realistic especially when they are deeply addicted to it. Generally when we talk about detox the addiction it means slowly reducing the dosage or drug or give an alternate drug that induces a similar mental situation while keep monitoring them continuously but talking about gambling that isn't possible so there should be a complete shift of their focus and needs to keep them engaged until the get back on their own and realize their mistake.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 10, 2023, 06:55:00 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Quitting Slowly
Quitting On point

Doesnt really matter on which one as long you are really that eager and serious on quitting up gambling for good. If you do find yourself that it is really that hard to quit on point and you do see
some progress that you are slowly changing up then just proceed or continue but honestly this is really just that depending on someones mentail strength or will because not all would really be having that kind of mindset
when it comes on quitting or doing something. You cant really be able to tell on what kind or type of person is, the one who had been addicted.

Basing up into my own experience, there are really moments or times on which i do find myself a little bit addicted on which i do already spend up
tons of money in doing gambling and lately realizing that it was never been that ideal or something that give good effects.
Once you do make out those realizations then you would really be able to find out on what are the things that are supposed that you should gonna do.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: macson on December 10, 2023, 07:00:03 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Even though it is not a 100% effective method, there are many gambling addicts who stop slowly using counseling methods and also open up to each other in a treatment group, but there are also many who cannot stop slowly, they must do it immediately, the point is that the recovery process for every gambling addict is different.  Curing gambling addicts who have been gambling for years is not easy, it requires a consistent and gradual process because if it is not consistent then the chances of returning will be great, but trying to stop slowly in every gambling activity is a technique that is quite recommended.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Ruttoshi on December 10, 2023, 07:02:12 PM
Gambling addiction is not like drugs or alcohol because this is what is taken into your system so quitting instantly might make you get sick or affect you in a way. The best way to quit gambling, is to let go of it and never think about gambling for a long period of time and you shouldn't also be company with gamblers. After a long time and you see that you have understand that gambling is something that you can make profit from. you can start gambling again.

It is hard for an addicted gambler to quit gambling gradually, because he will still have the opportunity to chase his loss since he lacks discipline and self control over his gambling activities. Any gambler that is quitting gambling gradually will be able to control himself and he can continue gambling with the lowest amount that he intend gambling with before quitting finally.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: passwordnow on December 10, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Yup.

There's always a resolution to matters like this. It's only about how the problem gambler will handle himself and resist gambling as much as he can. If there are friends and relatives that are willing to help him completely avoid gambling, then it's on him that they're counting to help himself as well.

Problem gamblers have different approaches and whatever works for them and gradually removes the problematic thing they've got with gambling. They need to be consistent on it and focus until the results are visible and they're finally seeing it on their own that it's actually working.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: uneng on December 10, 2023, 07:27:28 PM
It's a hard question to answer and there could be differences from person to person. Maybe for some addicts it's better to stop slowly, step by step, while for others to stop suddenly at once is the best alternative. That is a matter the addicted gambler in treatment should discuss with his therapist, so they can find out which is the most efficient approach.

Personally, I think to stop suddenly can bring more negative impacts on short run, like anxiety and aggressivity, although once this storm is over, it's likely the effects will be very positive on long run, while when stopping slowly puts the individual in a situation where relapses will tend to happen during the treatment, making it harder to revert addiction, and even retroacting a lot on his condition. In every cases, the individual has to be watched closely by family, friends and therapist.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: goxcraft on December 10, 2023, 07:40:42 PM
Not an impossible task but the chances are very low. Nearly close to zero.  You cannot just quit gambling over night. Just imagine how many times have we told ourselves that it was the last time but still attempted another try. Not as easy as being said. For me the only possible way to quit is by filling the void that quitting gambling would cause. What I mean is being busy with life, with work, with families. We can also practice religion. It won't be in an instance but it works. It did for me.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: swogerino on December 10, 2023, 07:46:42 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

In theory you are right and this is supposed to work also for gamblers.Good luck though in real life for gamblers trying to quit,unless they have a very strong will as the first step of starting to acknowledge that he wants to get recovered from such illness.The gambling addiction is called an illness and the first step to come up free of it is to acknowledge you have a problem,the second step is to apply all the necessary steps and medicines needed to overcome such illness,of course slowing down is only one of the many medicines needed to cure this illness.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Stalker22 on December 10, 2023, 08:38:21 PM
Stopping gambling outright might help some folks with addiction issues, but going cold turkey isnt necessarily the best or most practical choice for all.  There is no one perfect way to beat a gambling problem that will work for everyone - different strokes for different folks, and all that.

Some people might find it easier to slowly cut back on how much they are gambling instead of just slamming on the brakes and  that could mean betting less money over time, playing less often or switching up the kinds of games they go for.  Taking baby steps might make it easier to deal with the nasty withdrawal stuff and lower the odds they will backslide. I think the best way to quit gambling is to find an approach that works for you individually, because every single person is different.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: goaldigger on December 10, 2023, 08:51:03 PM
Anything is possible as long as you are willing to do so, but of course there is consequences and it will still take time before you finally say that you are free from any gambling addiction. Quitting overnight might not be possible but you can still try until you make yourself succeed on this. Asking for a professional help is always advisable, if you are already addict i believe a help from someone can make your recovery even faster.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Gozie51 on December 10, 2023, 09:19:46 PM
Addiction is a strong phenomenon that doesn't take a gradual step to stop, like it has to just stopped sometimes unplanned because an occurrence that will cause that person to stop such act. For example people who eventually get physically incapacitated have stopped so many addictions both hidden addictions and open addiction.

To stop an addiction gradually will amount to procrastinating and with that nothing is done at the point in such addiction.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: robelneo on December 10, 2023, 09:21:17 PM

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

It is the best path, every gambler is different and every approach is different, some want it slow, and some want to take it immediately the work of the professional is to create a plan to get the symptom out of the system of the gambler, professional and help group are the best people to approach for gamblers, once he opened up to this kind of people expect a positive outcome that he is really serious to get cured.
But if he's talking to his fellow gamblers or people who have no idea about the cure then is just talk and there's no seriousness, cure can only come from dealing with the right people to help you address your issue.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Orpichukwu on December 10, 2023, 09:32:34 PM
Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

Gambling addiction is not just something that starts when someone just jumps into gambling; it is something that they gradually get themselves into, and most times they don't even realise when they have gotten to that point.
 
When you talk about slowing down and quitting gambling, which could lead to a reduction in gambling addiction, it's easier said than done. As long as the person is still in contact with a gambling platform, they will still not gamble above their limit, which is still no different from what they were doing before.
 
In my opinion, the best thing they can do to stop gambling addiction is to stop gambling completely for the main time, and when they notice they are no longer attracted to gambling anymore, you will completely know that they are off it. If by any chance they still want to gamble, they will have to undergo some self-training in controlling their own aspects of their gambling habits and staying within their bankroll.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: KTChampions on December 10, 2023, 09:33:13 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

Taking into account the fact that gambling addiction is not chemical (as is the case with some drugs) but purely psychological, it is obvious that it is necessary to get rid of it immediately. What's the point of prolonging the process? Another thing is that for an inveterate gambler it is very difficult to dramatically change his lifestyle, but this can be done by finding another hobby that will completely absorb him, we can say that this is something like replacement therapy.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Weawant on December 10, 2023, 09:39:56 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
I don't think it's any easier quiting intake of substances, it may be relatively easier with food consumption probably due to availability, if there's a time when that food becomes scares or not readily available, it makes it easier for the addict to gradually quite but then whenever anything gets to the level of addiction, quitting becomes difficult.

Same applies to gambling if the person runs out of funds and probably no possible source or means of funding their gambling habits, they gradually tens to quit but if they get funds again it triggers their addiction again and they go back to it. It's much better to  voluntary want to quit and that will make it easier to quit same applies to food and substances intake as it's common amongst all gamblers.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Docnaster on December 10, 2023, 09:44:23 PM
Addiction is a strong phenomenon that doesn't take a gradual step to stop, like it has to just stopped sometimes unplanned because an occurrence that will cause that person to stop such act. For example people who eventually get physically incapacitated have stopped so many addictions both hidden addictions and open addiction.

To stop an addiction gradually will amount to procrastinating and with that nothing is done at the point in such addiction.
To stop one's gambling addiction automatically is one of the most difficult things to do as gambler and that's why we get to see many gamblers today who are still gambling despite their initial actions to stop gambling. But likely you rightly said, it's takes great determination and resilience for one to break free from gambling addiction.

I was once a gambling addict but decided one faithful evening, that I'm not gonna continue with the addiction after I realized that I've lost most of my fortunes to gambling and that's been one of my proudest moments as an adult. It takes a lot go stop gambling addiction but stopping it is the best thing for an addicted gambler


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Accardo on December 10, 2023, 10:20:21 PM
Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

Gambling addiction is not just something that starts when someone just jumps into gambling; it is something that they gradually get themselves into, and most times they don't even realise when they have gotten to that point.
 
When you talk about slowing down and quitting gambling, which could lead to a reduction in gambling addiction, it's easier said than done. As long as the person is still in contact with a gambling platform, they will still not gamble above their limit, which is still no different from what they were doing before.
 
In my opinion, the best thing they can do to stop gambling addiction is to stop gambling completely for the main time, and when they notice they are no longer attracted to gambling anymore, you will completely know that they are off it. If by any chance they still want to gamble, they will have to undergo some self-training in controlling their own aspects of their gambling habits and staying within their bankroll.


That will be before they get addicted to gambling. When addicted the gambler can't stay without gambling. It all depends on the lifestyle of the gambler, where and who he spends his time with can help the player to change. But, it's wrong to say that an addict will instantly stop being addicted to gambling. If he's not getting help, the addiction will improve every single day. Especially, when he's alone and doesn't communicate with anybody about his problem. He'll be able to quit slowly if he's sincere enough to change, and controls his urge to gamble. Which is not simple to achieve. It has to do with mental health, not physical ability. Sometimes he thinks his friends will laugh at him for getting addicted, and won't open up to them. Many factors have made addicted players remain addicted, some try to claim all is fine when with other people. Friends who struggle with addiction and don't feel like sharing their problems can be detected by his recent livelihood. Does he cancel evening hangouts, stay broke often, and feel stress and anxiety all the time?

We must visit the person and have a close conversation with them, asking them questions about what's taking up their time. Although, the questions should be asked the right way, or he won't share any reasonable answer.

If he opens up, our contributions should be effective in changing the person. The gambler wants to change, but can't on his own, so if we show him that it's possible to change, he'll confide in us as a friend. Introducing them to a therapist works fine, yet can be stressful. If the client and therapist relationship doesn't seem strong. The therapist needs to act like the addict's closest friend to be able to attract him to therapy. Or he'd rather remain an addict than attend those sessions. We can also be a therapist to a gambler if he's our close friend and listens to our instructions. Limiting his bank account's daily expenses also helps in controlling the gambler's habit of spending much money on gambling. With all the processes required to cure an addict, especially in gambling, it's not an easy thing to go cold turkey in gambling.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Davidvictorson on December 10, 2023, 10:35:17 PM
Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Yes. They can quit slowly
*move out of the environment where gambling thrives
*change gambling friends and replace them with friends of a new hobby
*self-exclusion from gambling sites. And going off the internet if possible.
*activating disabling gambling ads or censoring keywords related to gambling.
*Join a help group or seeking therapy.
* Do not stay alone. Alway try to be in the company of others.

They are in no particular order. But are steps that can be take slowly.

These are some gradual steps to quitting gambling. But the person cannot do it alone without an accountability partner.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: danherbias07 on December 10, 2023, 10:39:54 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
I am optimistic that gambling addicts could stop it.
A group would help but relatives and friends should be the first he should run to. Every help he could get will add to the change that he needs. It is true that unlike addictive substances it cannot be done by just cutting consumption, there's no way that would help because there's always the revengeful heart that wants to get back what he lost or the greedy part where a gambler feels lucky and wants to continue playing.
The best choice is to completely stop it one day. Just like how I did it with my smoking habit. Stopped it without even consuming one more the next day although I could finish 1 pack per day when I was still doing it.
Anything can be done, the battle is mental and we should try to fight the urge even if we see it in movies and advertisements. It will test how strong we are mentally but I do believe it's how we can overcome it.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Casdinyard on December 10, 2023, 10:48:04 PM
There’s no winding down when you’re quitting/recovering from gambling addiction. What you’d do if you “wind down” is just add more fuel to the fire and aggravate the situation. Maybe even put the problem gambler in a much worse loop cause all this is to him is more chances to take the win.

Cold turkey’s the way to go. The gambler wouldn’t have any chance to “reclaim” his losses, and at the same time further damage is avoided with less worries.

If you’re seeing someone slowly descending into gambling addiction, don’t let them have another game, do what you can to stop them from ever gambling right then and there.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Wexnident on December 10, 2023, 10:48:23 PM
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That would simply lead them to other types of activities no? Such as cigarettes or alcohol even since they inhibit the mind from thinking too much. If it was guided instead with them being able to pick an activity or a hobby that they would enjoy without damage to their minds or living, wouldn't that be better instead as an alternative compared to outright stopping gambling immediately?

Sure I guess quitting immediately may be effective for some but it's not without reason why research recommends slowly getting out of an addictive mindset instead of trying to remove it completely. Majority of the time relapse occurs in those cases and they inevitably go back to an even worse state than they were before stopping after all.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: STT on December 10, 2023, 11:58:26 PM
Problem is too short a word to describe why its a problem for that person, to fix the ailment you are going to have to self define how it became a problem especially.  I would not expect someone to walk away from problem behavior without underlying all the reasons and factors, doing that all by yourself might be too much.   A book talking to people or just hearing the situation of others might help alot more then the attitude of never again.    Also if there was a habit or problem presumably it took up alot of time, the easiest observation is you will need a new hobby or be left nothing much left to do.  Trying to resist repeating yourself while replacing it with nothing would be a mistake.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: len01 on December 11, 2023, 04:03:06 AM
a cigarette addict can stop when he experiences something that has a bad impact, for example a cigarette addict suddenly stops smoking after feeling pain in his chest and this is the same as a gambling addict who will stop immediately when something happens such as losing all valuables and money lost in gambling and that when he will stop suddenly and have the thought of stopping not to gamble anymore and only by stopping immediately can a gambling addict really get rid of his addiction because if it is done slowly, people mindset usually changes quickly and they can start gambling again.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Solosanz on December 11, 2023, 05:26:21 AM
The reason why someone become a gambling addict is money, they want to earn money quickly without any effort. So the best solution is give them money by doing a small task, is there anyone willing do that? nope.

It's not possible for them to quit gambling completely when they haven't yet find another way to earn money, they can only change after they realize making money needs process.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: EluguHcman on December 11, 2023, 06:28:22 AM
Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Oh yes. A chronic or relapsing disorderly characteristics of a gambler is a habitual behavior that is mere adopted and not an inheritance.
So, letting go off the negative enforcement as an addicted gambler is not something magical of a sudden occurances neither is it a permanent undoable.
If must be overcomed with a realistic expectations, then it must be challenged with a mean full momentum that is gradually enhanced to a certain levels to another while the striving to do away of the gambling addiction becomes an opposing challenge of your aims to limit gambling or to quit gambling.
Basically an unrelenting efforts to the realistic achievement is not limited to gradual process.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: kotajikikox on December 11, 2023, 06:45:33 AM
slowly quitting is not the best idea for every addiction , I once an chainsmoker and yes I tried many times to less my smoking but ending ? i comes back to taking more again .
But when i finally have the guts and dedication, I stopped it right away and completely , throwing all my remaining cigarettes and all my lighters and ashtrays to make me out of the system , same as I keep distance to people that smokes so I will not smell the cigarettes again and its successful after couple of months? and now for more than 7 years that I never have even a single stick.

This can be apply also in gambling that we should not slowly but to quit gambling all the way but the process is really hard and tough but that is the task to make it happen.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Accardo on December 11, 2023, 07:44:25 AM
a cigarette addict can stop when he experiences something that has a bad impact, for example a cigarette addict suddenly stops smoking after feeling pain in his chest and this is the same as a gambling addict who will stop immediately when something happens such as losing all valuables and money lost in gambling and that when he will stop suddenly and have the thought of stopping not to gamble anymore and only by stopping immediately can a gambling addict really get rid of his addiction because if it is done slowly, people mindset usually changes quickly and they can start gambling again.

Gambling addiction happens to be the worst kind of addiction with no other ways of redirecting the addiction. Unlike the physical feelings of pain in some parts of the body, gambling addiction requires mental stability to get hold and stop gradually. If a gambler isn't prepared to stop gambling, even when he's not addicted it'll take some time until he'll think about stopping gambling. The same applies to the addicts. Like I said, the addiction is mentally dealing with the gambler, and sometimes they don't feel the impact and how low in funds they've gone. Instead, they try to gamble more and engage in illicit activities, lying to family members, to raise money to gamble again. Running out of funds doesn't stop addicts from gambling. It can only stop a nonaddict. When a person is addicted to something, nothing stops them, they can't sleep or have fun without participating in gambling or whatever it is that led them to addiction. That's why we hear numerous stories of gamblers who hurt themself after taking loans to gamble.

A lot of addicted gamblers require lots of external help to change. There is nothing their self-control can do to help the mental problem addiction has caused the player. Do you know that sometimes the gambler gets to understand he's addicted, but feels confused about the gravity pushing him to gamble any time he's got money in his palms? Gambling addiction seems like the worst form of addiction, as the addict thinks he's doing something that could fetch him money. The other addictions don't promise money to their victims, hence they can restrict their emotions from repeating that same thing. Some drug addicts, wake up one money and decide to stop taking drugs. But, a gambling addict is unsure whether he's addicted or not. So, while the addicts work towards going cold turkey, the newbies should endeavor not to fall into the same trap, in their course of venturing into gambling.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Z390 on December 11, 2023, 08:15:52 AM
For many, I will say don't bother starting what you can't finish, as some started like they can handle gambling and they end up getting addicted, been satisfied with what you have is the bigger thing that anyone can have in life, as this will keep you happy instead than trying to get it all, you can still get it all, but using the hard work and smartness rather than throwing money at luck, I mean, what kind of greed and addiction can make some use up to $300k on gambling? And they say they are broke?

Someone decided to calculate how much he have spent on gambling and the amount is up a million dollars, like isn't that the goal of millions of people, to reach $1 million dollars and retire? The thing is many people lacks the patience of making money very slow to reach their goals, if you understand how tricky luck is you will be very caution with gambling.

What I fear the most about gambling is getting addicted, that's why I don't want to get rich from.gambling, I believe it will mess my sentimental up, I would probably want to live the rest of my life in gambling, and that I don't want, so I manage to confuse myself that using a small amount is what I will stick with, there is no magic in gambling that will want the best for me, if you can't even control some things in life you should either learn to risk little on gambling or just stay away.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Mauser on December 11, 2023, 08:20:39 AM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

This probably depends on the severity of the gambling addiction. For a serious case where someone has struggled quite a while to lower his gambling acitivties I would say that cold turkey is the best approach. Having failed several times before to stop gambling is a sign of a serious issue and that a new approach should be tried. In my opinion there is a difference between addictions from substances like alcohol or drugs and a gambling addiction. One type is something that our body got used to and there will be severe reactions when we don't take the substances anymore. That is why there are so many different type of drugs to try and reduce the effects of stop taking the serious addictive drugs. With gambling and other addictions that come from our brain, it's better to break the cycle we have going cold turkey. We need to find a way back to a daily life without gambling, maybe then after some time we could slowly start to gamble again without falling into our old patterns.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: piebeyb on December 11, 2023, 08:57:35 AM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.
I don't think that's the right way because I've tried to stop suddenly because something is forced, there will be resistance which makes it addictive and the habit will come back, believe in the process of gradually reducing it slowly to reduce bad habits that make the behavior become unhealthy. Well, when it comes to gambling, there are several of my friends who use this method and they really succeeded in stopping it completely by going through the process from time to time until they finally recovered completely.

I think we all know that getting rid of bad habits when gambling is very difficult, not as easy as people think, but I have felt that in a position like that, you can't stop suddenly, especially if you force it, it will only hurt yourself and make everything not okay. . try it slowly rather than trying to stop suddenly


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: aioc on December 11, 2023, 09:01:02 AM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

I have to Google this cold turkey word as I seldom encounter this word so here it is
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"Cold turkey" refers to the abrupt cessation of a substance dependence and the resulting unpleasant experience, as opposed to gradually easing the process through reduction over time or by using replacement medication.
It applies to substance abuse, but you did apply it to gambling and I guess because there's a similarity between the two it depends on the gambler where he is comfortable he can do cold turkey or quit doing cold turkey as long as it will lead to curing his addiction, each gambler differs from one another and they have a pace that they want to follow where they are comfortable so both ways are good and desirable and can be implemented


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Outhue on December 11, 2023, 09:01:54 AM
People end up taking their lives after being so addicted to gambling, they can't stop and they can't walk away, the thing with gambling is no matter how much you win it will never be enough, that's why I always appreciate my effort of walking right away like I steal from the casino after I win some money, they will try to take it all back in fold.

For someone who was destined to have only a 100 thousand dollars all their live won't even know, and they will keep chasing the million dollar bag, imagine someone like this getting involved with gambling? They will believe that winning a million is more than enough and it's possible, the sad truth is they will never have it and they will waste their years away.

You need to consider yourself luck if you are not addicted to something, process addiction are so much harder to beat in so many ways, especially gambling and sex, you won't just quit easily, only those who haven't process it for too long find their way back easily.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: slapper on December 11, 2023, 09:26:35 AM
It seems simple, right? However, gambling addiction is complex and entrenched in behavior and psychology. Consider triggers: tension, quick money, thrill. Can these be turned off instantly? As with shutting off a high-pressure hose tap, backflow is likely. Why not try progressive withdrawal, especially when customized to individual circumstances? Considerations of mistakes and group conversations are crucial. But aren't we ignoring psychology? The reward system in the brain is linked to gambling cues. Shouldn't reconfiguring this system involve more than merely stopping?

Talking to organizations and professionals is critical. Isn't rehabilitation unique to each person? Some may benefit from gradually substituting gambling with healthy hobbies to rebalance their incentive system. Could a cold turkey strategy be too startling for some, increasing the risk of relapse? The variability of human psyche must be considered. Isn't it simplistic to assume a one-size-fits-all addiction solution?


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Strongkored on December 11, 2023, 10:33:33 AM
It would probably be the same as a heavy smoker who is advised to stop by reducing it slowly and experts say that will be difficult to do because he will still continue smoking and only reduce it occasionally.
It is impossible for a gambler who is addicted to stop immediately before he can go through treatment with a therapist because gambling has already taken over his mind, even though we read a gambler who reduces his gambling activities, of course, he is not already in the addiction stage, maybe he is an active gambler, but because he is not an addict, he still can control their thoughts when they have gone too far in gambling so can stop immediately.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Blitzboy on December 11, 2023, 12:48:46 PM
It ignores addiction recovery individuality. Think about Emma, a problem gambler. She goes cold turkey, but each relapse makes her feel worse. What if Emma takes a systematic, gradual approach? Reducing frequency and stakes while seeking therapy and support? Yes, abrupt cessation works, but isnt everyone's journey different? Assuming one size fits all is the problem. Gradual reduction under professional supervision may help individuals recover more sustainably by helping them understand and regulate their impulses. Cold turkey may seem like the only option, but human behavior is complex. A personalized strategy that combines professional support, personal insight, and compassion for the obstacles faced by the individual is optimal.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: coin-investor on December 11, 2023, 02:20:37 PM

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
As long as he keeps realizing that he wants to change and want to quit gambling he will slowly improve and there will come a time when he will decide to ask for help from the professionals, this is the first step before they finally realize that they needed a big step to change, slowly thinking to change is the start of realization that he will have to decide in the future that he wants to change and it will eventually if he keeps holding on to that thought.

It's hard to take gambling from a gambler who has no realization yet and realization will not just come suddenly it is a slow process, when they lose a big amount the realization will come that some change is needed and if they keep losing the realization will become huge and snowball and that's where he will ask for help and will improve his situation, healing, and cure is always a slow process and it's effective doing this way.



Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: maydna on December 11, 2023, 02:25:57 PM
Yes, I agree with @OP, who said that stopping for a moment, reflecting on our mistakes or sharing them with others to find solutions to the problems we face can reduce the burden we feel in gambling. It can also help us to reduce our gambling activities, which may still be gambling very often so that by taking a break, we can think about how we can continue gambling but not experience any problems. We can still do other things well. But it will not be easy for a problem gambler to stop, even if it is slowly because he needs to realize that he has gone too far in gambling. If he can realize his mistake, he can start consulting with other people to find a solution. But if not, he will not be able to reduce his gambling addiction, and it could even become worse than before.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Slow death on December 11, 2023, 05:51:28 PM
The first step to starting to make the addicted person start to forget the addiction is to completely distance them from the thing that is causing their addiction, in the specific case about gambling, and it is necessary to know the person addicted to gambling if she keeps playing in physical casinos or if she keeps playing in online casinos, if he says that he keeps playing in the physical casino then it will be necessary for his relatives to go to that physical casino and report that he is addicted and that the casino should ban him from that casino casino, if a person addicted to gambling says that he plays at an online casino, then the relatives of that addict must send emails to all casinos reporting that their relative is a person addicted to gambling so as not to allow him to create an account at any casino

Normally this type of attitude is taken accompanied by a statement from the doctor and the court, which is why it is necessary for people to always take their addicted relatives to the hospital and if they refuse to go to the hospital then the relatives must file a complaint with the police so that the case can be resolved. arrives in court and the judge orders them to hospitalize the addict in a place isolated from people, without access to the internet, without access to a telephone, without access to a computer and without access to money and documents for a period that the doctor determines, only then will a person gambling addict will be able to cure herself


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: darkangel11 on December 11, 2023, 07:04:30 PM
I agree with you OP, it's better to cut yourself off, just like you do with an abusive boyfriend or girlfriend. You don't slowly wind down the relationship but leave it all behind one day.
Addictive substances are easiest to drop with a substitute, like you do with nicotine tablets, or weaker drugs to put off strong ones because if you don't do it you're going to be unable to function, your body will shut down, you'll be shaking, vomiting... Gamblers don't get these side effects so their problem is mainly in their heads. It's not the body that's addicted but the mind.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: erep on December 11, 2023, 07:18:14 PM
Yes, I agree with @OP, who said that stopping for a moment, reflecting on our mistakes or sharing them with others to find solutions to the problems we face can reduce the burden we feel in gambling. It can also help us to reduce our gambling activities, which may still be gambling very often so that by taking a break, we can think about how we can continue gambling but not experience any problems. We can still do other things well. But it will not be easy for a problem gambler to stop, even if it is slowly because he needs to realize that he has gone too far in gambling. If he can realize his mistake, he can start consulting with other people to find a solution. But if not, he will not be able to reduce his gambling addiction, and it could even become worse than before.
One reason for gambling addicts to stop for a moment after they realize they are losing and they don't have income for daily needs, apart from that I don't think they will realize to limit their gambling activities, so we have to act actively to warn friends who are already addicted to gambling to limit the use of funds in betting so that they will stop gambling once they lose their limited funds. I always remind my friends to get out of the gambling addiction zone even though they don't listen at the moment but they will realize that my warning will be useful for them one day.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: bbigtart on December 11, 2023, 07:24:59 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
What makes it difficult for people to get away from gambling is that in their minds they always have thoughts of being able to recover the losses they experienced previously. This also happens in my family who really like gambling because they have lost a lot of money. So you always gamble in the hope of recovering previous losses.

But now after being given advice, slowly he can control himself and no longer becomes addicted. From this I conclude that when we are addicted we cannot stop gambling completely. We can only do it slowly. This also applies to cigarette addicts. Normally they can stop slowly.
But if they quit to an extreme level, they experience health problems that require them to stop smoking completely. Likewise with gambling they can stop completely if they are completely bankrupt and there is nothing left to sell.

Maybe this is advice for those who are addicted to gambling. divert your habits and thoughts to look for new hobbies, and socialize with friends and useful activities.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: DaNNy001 on December 11, 2023, 08:30:56 PM
It would probably be the same as a heavy smoker who is advised to stop by reducing it slowly and experts say that will be difficult to do because he will still continue smoking and only reduce it occasionally.
It is impossible for a gambler who is addicted to stop immediately before he can go through treatment with a therapist because gambling has already taken over his mind, even though we read a gambler who reduces his gambling activities, of course, he is not already in the addiction stage, maybe he is an active gambler, but because he is not an addict, he still can control their thoughts when they have gone too far in gambling so can stop immediately.
That's true because gambling addiction is something that eats the spirit and willpower of any sane person and it can take time before anything will actually be seen as normal for this addict. Addiction is really serious case and it needs to be handled with care and serious therapy need to be done before anything can said about a character change in that person and these things can still go wrongly because once the person is said to be cured the person can still flip and go back to his old if proper is not carried out.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: hedgeh0g on December 11, 2023, 08:45:40 PM
Yes, I agree with @OP, who said that stopping for a moment, reflecting on our mistakes or sharing them with others to find solutions to the problems we face can reduce the burden we feel in gambling. It can also help us to reduce our gambling activities, which may still be gambling very often so that by taking a break, we can think about how we can continue gambling but not experience any problems. We can still do other things well. But it will not be easy for a problem gambler to stop, even if it is slowly because he needs to realize that he has gone too far in gambling. If he can realize his mistake, he can start consulting with other people to find a solution. But if not, he will not be able to reduce his gambling addiction, and it could even become worse than before.
One reason for gambling addicts to stop for a moment after they realize they are losing and they don't have income for daily needs, apart from that I don't think they will realize to limit their gambling activities, so we have to act actively to warn friends who are already addicted to gambling to limit the use of funds in betting so that they will stop gambling once they lose their limited funds. I always remind my friends to get out of the gambling addiction zone even though they don't listen at the moment but they will realize that my warning will be useful for them one day.
These addictions are very serious and therefore the fight against them is not easy. Each player has his own path and only he makes the final decision to limit himself in the game. If a player does this abruptly, then after some time, it could be months or even years, he may break down because something went wrong in his life, this could be any little thing. A problem at work, or a difficult relationship with a girl. After this, the player may begin to play even more than before, so you should always remember this and control yourself.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: shivansps on December 11, 2023, 08:55:33 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

A VERY good and not an easy question.
I've heard different opinions about the best way to recover from addiction.
Some say it’s better right away, others say you need to gradually reduce your consumption. My personal opinion is that you need to immediately refuse and isolate the person from this place (district, city, country sometimes) in order to reduce the likelihood of relapse. This is a complex topic and not easy to discuss here. I'm talking about drugs. I have experience in this area. I help people who WANT to get rid of it THEMSELVES. I don’t know about gambling, but I can hardly imagine a person gradually giving it up. Most likely this should be done once and for all


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: rahmad2nd on December 11, 2023, 09:01:22 PM
To be honest, I don't have the right and correct answer. but it seems, like what you said. Gambling addiction is different from addiction to illegal substances, which requires a period of time to recover. that too, with a therapy scenario. In the case of gambling, there is actually a mechanism for healing treatment for addiction sufferers, just like other types of addicts. The difference is, the tricks used are different. and I can't say for sure, because I'm not an expert in this field to provide an opinion or assumption or even a solution. the only thing that makes a gambler quit completely is when he is no longer able to carry out gambling sessions. in other words, someone has become homeless and doesn't have a penny to gamble with. In cases like this, don't gamble to meet your basic needs, it will be difficult to do.

So, is there a solution to stop slowly and expect realistic improvements? in this context, it is like being addicted to illegal substances. Actually, it's possible, because everything starts from a habit. doing it step by step and only fulfilling high desires can be done. however, with various conditions. Play with the minimum bankroll, only doing gambling sessions to relieve strong cravings. after that, switch it to another method. However, this cannot be done by just one addict. What is certain is that one must be guided and monitored closely. limit every activity, especially those related to betting. Also, it requires determination and strong intentions from addicted sufferers. Even though it seems difficult, it is worth trying.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: maydna on December 12, 2023, 02:54:32 PM
~snip~
One reason for gambling addicts to stop for a moment after they realize they are losing and they don't have income for daily needs, apart from that I don't think they will realize to limit their gambling activities, so we have to act actively to warn friends who are already addicted to gambling to limit the use of funds in betting so that they will stop gambling once they lose their limited funds. I always remind my friends to get out of the gambling addiction zone even though they don't listen at the moment but they will realize that my warning will be useful for them one day.
By stopping for a moment and realizing that he has lost, he can help him reflect on his mistakes and learn his lesson. By doing so, he can at least try to start limiting his gambling activities so that he can learn to reduce the amount he loses. And I agree always to warn friends who are addicted to gambling to start trying to limit their gambling. If they still don't want to, that's up to them because it is the responsibility of each person who uses their money to gamble. The important thing is that we must always limit our gambling activities so that we avoid losing a lot and so that we can still have money left over that we can use to gamble another day.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: ryzaadit on December 12, 2023, 03:42:26 PM
Move to a small town, without internet activity ~XD

If you are a landbase gambler, while you are gambling on (Bars, Casino Landbase) the best thing to do just avoid any town who have some offering for gambling. I see so many bar on UK provided gambling.

It's crazy, because the alternative fun they have (Drinking) is also have gambling. So, you're really hard to find other alternative for your free time.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: moneystery on December 12, 2023, 04:06:17 PM
if you have reached the addiction stage, quitting cold turkey can be quite serious for your body and mental condition. for example, when someone is addicted to smoking and at one time he immediately stops it all without gradual, it can cause his body to become sick or make him become anxious, these symptoms are called withdrawal symptoms. that's why psychiatrists usually advise someone to reduce their habits to the point where they are able to stop these habits without affecting their body and mind.

however, if someone is really serious about quitting their addiction, maybe they can quit cold turkey easily.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: redsun114 on December 13, 2023, 02:06:42 AM
I think it depends on the level of addiction one has. Those who are just at the initial stage of the addiction can easily quit gambling if they realize early that they are getting into a problem. Those who have gotten into the addiction but aren't too deep inside as of now might be able to leave it if they start reducing their time and budget for their gambling activities as soon as they realize they need to get out of it. However, those who are already too deep into the addiction will have a hard time doing both of these things.

For someone who is a complete addict, has been gambling for a very long time, and is not unable to stop gambling, they surely need external help to get rid of their addiction, that too if they have now realized that they are in a problematic situation because gambling addicts that don't acknowledge this fact can barely be helped.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: boty on December 13, 2023, 05:31:14 AM
if you have reached the addiction stage, quitting cold turkey can be quite serious for your body and mental condition. for example, when someone is addicted to smoking and at one time he immediately stops it all without gradual, it can cause his body to become sick or make him become anxious, these symptoms are called withdrawal symptoms. that's why psychiatrists usually advise someone to reduce their habits to the point where they are able to stop these habits without affecting their body and mind.

however, if someone is really serious about quitting their addiction, maybe they can quit cold turkey easily.
Yes, it is true that when we are addicted to something, we cannot get rid of it easily, we need to do it slowly so that it doesn't cause bad effects for our body. Reducing cigarette addiction is not an easy thing for some people, but if Indeed, we can do this by gambling, of course this is good for our health, but not for our financial condition.
In getting rid of addiction, of course we have to do it consistently because to get satisfactory results for ourselves, if we do it inconsistently we certainly won't be able to get the results we want.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: bitbollo on December 13, 2023, 05:56:14 AM
I believe these are situations to be addressed on a personal level.
Even having a compromise (one play a month/certain sum deposited) can already be achieved as a good result.
Although I believe that the user should decide which method he prefers.
Obviously it is also useful to contact Anonymous Gambler or industry experts (like medical doctor) in this type of situation.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 13, 2023, 09:53:17 AM
Yes, it is true that when we are addicted to something, we cannot get rid of it easily, we need to do it slowly so that it doesn't cause bad effects for our body. Reducing cigarette addiction is not an easy thing for some people, but if Indeed, we can do this by gambling, of course this is good for our health, but not for our financial condition.
In getting rid of addiction, of course we have to do it consistently because to get satisfactory results for ourselves, if we do it inconsistently we certainly won't be able to get the results we want.
But people should be able to reduce their gambling so they don't become addicted to gambling because by experiencing a gambling addiction, they will encounter even more problems. Maybe they need to look for other activities that can divert their attention from thinking about gambling and do other activities that a gambling addict usually can't think about. The conclusion is that they must immediately stop gambling no matter how difficult it is because that is the only way to be free from their gambling addiction. Even though it looks difficult, if they have a strong will and determination, they can definitely do it and they can ask for help from the people around them to help them overcome their gambling addiction problem.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: AicecreaME on December 13, 2023, 11:40:07 AM
It depends on the person. But for some gamblers I've read that this works well for them more than taking everything slowly. Going cold turkey means you eliminate gambling all at once. You do not withdraw step by step, rather ditch it altogether so you won't have a hard time undergoing relapse once you slowly take a break from it.

Although it isn't really for everyone since some still prefer getting rid of their addiction slowly and not instantly. I guess to each his own. As long as they can quit successfully, then it's all good. After all, there's no one solution fits all in this world.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Warkop on December 13, 2023, 03:09:49 PM
In my opinion, gambling is not to stop smoking addiction, but rather to continue smoking, because in gambling games cigarettes are a friend to relieve stress and relax when gambling, especially if you lose you will definitely continue smoking to calm your emotions and relax when you lose when gambling. Maybe if you want to stop smoking, it's a good idea to reduce it first, don't stop immediately so that there are no problems with the condition of your body or your mind.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Razmirraz on December 13, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
When it comes to addiction, the majority of people who are addicted to gambling or smoking find it very difficult to stop slowly. If the addiction is considered a problem that can interfere with life or hinder other work, it will be more effective to stop completely than to stop slowly. Never approach a gambling place if you really want to stop and never buy cigarettes or ask friends for even one. The desire to stop must be stronger than channeling the desire, if you still do it slowly your efforts to stop will be in vain.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Blitzboy on December 13, 2023, 04:20:12 PM
Yes, it is true that when we are addicted to something, we cannot get rid of it easily, we need to do it slowly so that it doesn't cause bad effects for our body. Reducing cigarette addiction is not an easy thing for some people, but if Indeed, we can do this by gambling, of course this is good for our health, but not for our financial condition.
In getting rid of addiction, of course we have to do it consistently because to get satisfactory results for ourselves, if we do it inconsistently we certainly won't be able to get the results we want.
But people should be able to reduce their gambling so they don't become addicted to gambling because by experiencing a gambling addiction, they will encounter even more problems. Maybe they need to look for other activities that can divert their attention from thinking about gambling and do other activities that a gambling addict usually can't think about. The conclusion is that they must immediately stop gambling no matter how difficult it is because that is the only way to be free from their gambling addiction. Even though it looks difficult, if they have a strong will and determination, they can definitely do it and they can ask for help from the people around them to help them overcome their gambling addiction problem.
Indeed, we must recognize the dangers of gambling addiction; its a slippery slope. Realistically, telling someone to "stop gambling" isnt enough. For example, telling someone to stop breathing because the air is dirty is not a good idea, is it? A more nuanced method is needed.

Imagine if we taught people about the risks of gambling and encouraged them to gamble responsibly? Freedom of choice; individuals are allowed to make decisions, but they must also be aware of the results. Its like driving a car: you need to know the regulations and the possible outcomes.

Why not make breaks and limits a requirement on all online gambling sites? Consider a system that logs you out automatically after a certain amount of time or when your loses reach a certain amount. Beyond just erecting walls, its about making a safety net. As opposed to forcing a single answer on everyone, we can give people the tools they need to make better decisions.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: coupable on December 13, 2023, 04:29:04 PM
Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
This is almost the only way a person can help himself deal with his bad addictive habits. There is no escape from communicating with specialists in the field of behavioral addiction treatment, who will provide you with special treatment sessions before encouraging you to join clubs with people who are going through the same experience, including people who have succeeded (even if relatively) in overcoming it.
Unfortunately, modern medicine is still falling short of providing 100% effective solutions because this depends on many factors that medical intervention cannot interact with. For example, the will of the sick person himself and the extent of the ability of those around him to support him. Repeated treatment sessions with the use of some sedative medications can help begin a treatment phase that may be long or short depending on the patient’s will to recover.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 14, 2023, 04:25:41 AM
Indeed, we must recognize the dangers of gambling addiction; its a slippery slope. Realistically, telling someone to "stop gambling" isnt enough. For example, telling someone to stop breathing because the air is dirty is not a good idea, is it? A more nuanced method is needed.

Imagine if we taught people about the risks of gambling and encouraged them to gamble responsibly? Freedom of choice; individuals are allowed to make decisions, but they must also be aware of the results. Its like driving a car: you need to know the regulations and the possible outcomes.

Why not make breaks and limits a requirement on all online gambling sites? Consider a system that logs you out automatically after a certain amount of time or when your loses reach a certain amount. Beyond just erecting walls, its about making a safety net. As opposed to forcing a single answer on everyone, we can give people the tools they need to make better decisions.
In fact, we teach people about the risks of gambling and being responsible in gambling for their own good so that they don't experience huge losses and also use a lot of money to gamble. Apart from that, if they can be responsible in playing gambling, they can enjoy gambling as entertainment instead of using it as a place to make money because it will not be obtained easily.

A person does need to make their own decisions, but if they can equip themselves with responsibility, discipline, and all the things needed when gambling, they will not experience any problems. It will be a safety net for them while gambling and can prevent them from the biggest problems that many gamblers have experienced, many of whom have experienced gambling addiction. That's the point if they have discipline, responsibility and others so that they won't get into any problems while gambling.

And having limits on gambling can indeed prevent them from gambling excessively. It can also save them from financial ruin because they can know when to stop gambling, especially when they can get their winnings.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: retreat on December 14, 2023, 08:04:27 AM
It's a good idea if someone wants to get rid of their addiction to consult a professional. Usually this psychiatrist will advise whether a person should reduce the intensity of their gambling slowly or cut ties with it immediately.
But I think if a person wants to get away from his gambling addiction there is no other way than to cut ties with it completely. Because if a person decides to end their addiction straight away, and learns to restrain themselves, they will be able to control themselves better in the future. The problem of withdrawal symptoms is normal, you can stop yourself from doing that or, if necessary, take sedatives.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Crypt0Gore on December 14, 2023, 11:10:11 AM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Its easy if they noticed that they are losing their minds in gambling already, but there is always a thing line between getting addicted and no getting addicted, if you cross the line it can be too late already, that's why self awareness is very important.

If you know what to expect from gambling before starting at all you will never be lead astray like most gamblers, everything has to do with your expectations, what is gambling to you? Source of income? Or entertainment? I know its easier said than done but I live by this rule that nothing comes easily, money most importantly, this is the most difficult thing to get and why confuse your mind with gambling that you can easily make money?

This is the mind of most gamblers, for them its always about making money that can change their stories for good, using a small amount, like fair judgement, how is this fair? Gambling is the fools game only if you make it seem so, you need to think correctly and accept that you yourself is trying to win money using the almost impossible way.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: madnessteat on December 14, 2023, 11:25:36 AM
It's a good idea if someone wants to get rid of their addiction to consult a professional. Usually this psychiatrist will advise whether a person should reduce the intensity of their gambling slowly or cut ties with it immediately.
But I think if a person wants to get away from his gambling addiction there is no other way than to cut ties with it completely. Because if a person decides to end their addiction straight away, and learns to restrain themselves, they will be able to control themselves better in the future. The problem of withdrawal symptoms is normal, you can stop yourself from doing that or, if necessary, take sedatives.

I absolutely agree with you. Gradual reduction of gambling will not help in any way to solve the problem of gambling addiction.

I was able to get rid of several addictions that prevented me from living a normal life and I know from personal experience that if a person wants to get rid of any addiction he needs to first of all realize that he has a problem, and then already solve it, and drastically and harshly. Otherwise you will not solve the problem, but will only torture yourself.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Hirose UK on December 14, 2023, 11:58:27 AM
~snip~
But people should be able to reduce their gambling so they don't become addicted to gambling because by experiencing a gambling addiction, they will encounter even more problems. Maybe they need to look for other activities that can divert their attention from thinking about gambling and do other activities that a gambling addict usually can't think about. The conclusion is that they must immediately stop gambling no matter how difficult it is because that is the only way to be free from their gambling addiction. Even though it looks difficult, if they have a strong will and determination, they can definitely do it and they can ask for help from the people around them to help them overcome their gambling addiction problem.
Indeed, we must recognize the dangers of gambling addiction; its a slippery slope. Realistically, telling someone to "stop gambling" isnt enough. For example, telling someone to stop breathing because the air is dirty is not a good idea, is it? A more nuanced method is needed.

Imagine if we taught people about the risks of gambling and encouraged them to gamble responsibly? Freedom of choice; individuals are allowed to make decisions, but they must also be aware of the results. Its like driving a car: you need to know the regulations and the possible outcomes.

Why not make breaks and limits a requirement on all online gambling sites? Consider a system that logs you out automatically after a certain amount of time or when your loses reach a certain amount. Beyond just erecting walls, its about making a safety net. As opposed to forcing a single answer on everyone, we can give people the tools they need to make better decisions.
If it just words then it not the right method as you said "stop breathing because the air is dirty" statements alone will never change anything and require better method.
For example, let go find something to do and slowly leave all the bad activities behind, then it will be more acceptable and get very good respect from them because we give advice as well as examples and also concrete actions.
But some people will never be able to understand it because everyone mindset is different in responding to every problem that occurs.

Well, this is pretty good method where there is clear encouragement and effort that is clearly visible, in fact by using method like that it will be easier to understand and to follow.
Sometimes many people don't care and cannot understand other people input if there are no real examples that are clearly visible.
Most people only believe what they see, not what they hear.

That good idea, but the question is who will implement and be able to set those limits?
Gambling sites are built to make money and they try to carry out promotions to get more customers so that if system like that is set up then it is clear that gambling sites will not be able to make big profits.
Gambling sites don't care about the addiction experienced by their customers because they are in business, they are trying to make money, and only ourselves can do that.
By having predetermined limits and awareness that can truly be held accountable, we can stop by ourselves at certain times instead of relying on gambling sites implementing such systems.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: angrybirdy on December 14, 2023, 12:16:33 PM
It's a good idea if someone wants to get rid of their addiction to consult a professional. Usually this psychiatrist will advise whether a person should reduce the intensity of their gambling slowly or cut ties with it immediately.
But I think if a person wants to get away from his gambling addiction there is no other way than to cut ties with it completely. Because if a person decides to end their addiction straight away, and learns to restrain themselves, they will be able to control themselves better in the future. The problem of withdrawal symptoms is normal, you can stop yourself from doing that or, if necessary, take sedatives.

Yup especially now that people are getting addicted in gambling quickly even those young people nowadays are experiencing addiction in playing online casinos, that's why it sounds perfect if a person is aware on what they are experiencing and comes with a solution of getting rid of it. seeking a professional help is more important when it comes to this kind of scenario especially worst cases of addiction. Medication and rehabilitation is one of the best way to exclude yourself in this kind of activity.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: ultrloa on December 14, 2023, 12:40:51 PM
It's a good idea if someone wants to get rid of their addiction to consult a professional. Usually this psychiatrist will advise whether a person should reduce the intensity of their gambling slowly or cut ties with it immediately.
But I think if a person wants to get away from his gambling addiction there is no other way than to cut ties with it completely. Because if a person decides to end their addiction straight away, and learns to restrain themselves, they will be able to control themselves better in the future. The problem of withdrawal symptoms is normal, you can stop yourself from doing that or, if necessary, take sedatives.

Yup especially now that people are getting addicted in gambling quickly even those young people nowadays are experiencing addiction in playing online casinos, that's why it sounds perfect if a person is aware on what they are experiencing and comes with a solution of getting rid of it. seeking a professional help is more important when it comes to this kind of scenario especially worst cases of addiction. Medication and rehabilitation is one of the best way to exclude yourself in this kind of activity.

People now live on digital ages where they see a lot of things on internet including gambling plus their favorite influencers are blatantly promoting gambling and over exaggerating their winning result to their audiences that's why there are curious young mind will try to play the casino games they are trying to promote. They believe on the words said by those people which they can easily get money from playing those casino promoted by this influencers.

We know how bad the addiction especially for young adults and if they are been affected with it its best for them to accept their condition and always seek for professional help since this can help them get proper aid for their addiction and also they should quit gambling for good since they already experience how life became a gambling addict and they maybe can't take what will happen again to them if they get into this situation for second time around.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: qwertyup23 on December 14, 2023, 12:54:47 PM
With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

I think this is definitely the right recommendation for a person who is struggling to quit any kind of addiction.

There is actually some science behind addiction- like you cannot quit in one (1) go after years of being exposed to a habit. Once you attempt to quit and stop it completely, the relapses happen often which leads to a failure of quitting altogether.

Like what you have just mentioned, take things slow. A gambler built their addiction on a year's pace and getting it out of your system will also require small steps. But what is important here is the consistency and determination of quitting which makes everything from impossible to possible.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: piebeyb on December 14, 2023, 01:00:32 PM
I absolutely agree with you. Gradual reduction of gambling will not help in any way to solve the problem of gambling addiction.

I was able to get rid of several addictions that prevented me from living a normal life and I know from personal experience that if a person wants to get rid of any addiction he needs to first of all realize that he has a problem, and then already solve it, and drastically and harshly. Otherwise you will not solve the problem, but will only torture yourself.
I often say this in forums that my friend succeeded by reducing his gambling habits so that his high desire to gamble gradually reduced a little, so he started to stop completely, maybe you say that because you want instant results, everything needs a process and can't easily cure it in a short time, I'm sure nothing like that can work, even if it takes a very long time at least my friend doesn't feel tormented in a more extreme way.

Everyone has their own views and ways to heal themselves as long as they are aware that they are addicted to gambling. I think they have to measure themselves whether they are addicts at a high level or at a low level. Usually high level addicts need a very long time, even if in a rough way. I'm sure it won't help at all. Everyone has different handling.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Wapfika on December 14, 2023, 01:01:27 PM

Yup especially now that people are getting addicted in gambling quickly even those young people nowadays are experiencing addiction in playing online casinos, that's why it sounds perfect if a person is aware on what they are experiencing and comes with a solution of getting rid of it. seeking a professional help is more important when it comes to this kind of scenario especially worst cases of addiction. Medication and rehabilitation is one of the best way to exclude yourself in this kind of activity.

Seeking help to a professional is easy to say than done since some gambling addict doesn’t have courage to open up their problem to others and also the cost for this kind of therapy and consultation is sometimes very expensive depending on the country you live.

That’s why some people with addiction problem just go along the flow and some is just reducing their gambling expenses and not abruptly quit because that is very hard to do. Even I that is just a seasonal gambler can’t get rid off gambling out of my system totally because I can I always find a way to bet when I have free time.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Jody.Drummer on December 14, 2023, 01:16:21 PM
It's a good idea if someone wants to get rid of their addiction to consult a professional. Usually this psychiatrist will advise whether a person should reduce the intensity of their gambling slowly or cut ties with it immediately.
But I think if a person wants to get away from his gambling addiction there is no other way than to cut ties with it completely. Because if a person decides to end their addiction straight away, and learns to restrain themselves, they will be able to control themselves better in the future. The problem of withdrawal symptoms is normal, you can stop yourself from doing that or, if necessary, take sedatives.

Yup especially now that people are getting addicted in gambling quickly even those young people nowadays are experiencing addiction in playing online casinos, that's why it sounds perfect if a person is aware on what they are experiencing and comes with a solution of getting rid of it. seeking a professional help is more important when it comes to this kind of scenario especially worst cases of addiction. Medication and rehabilitation is one of the best way to exclude yourself in this kind of activity.

Online-based gambling is increasingly easy to find, especially in some social media that you have, in this problem people must be able to filter whatever they see by thinking more realistically in responding to anything that seems tempting, some people who come carelessly starting from experiments often get stuck and have difficulty finding an exit and that is the addiction zone that is always feared.

The ease of accessing online-based casinos makes a person's interest increase to get involved and bet. On the other hand, gambling addiction always cannot be fully predicted and in my opinion, lately more people have fallen into addiction without realizing it. I think the difficulty of achieving awareness makes it difficult for them to get out or at least get enlightened from some of the indications they find to improve the situation, one of the help that might be done is right as you said is to ask for help from some professionals to find some solutions that must be done when in such conditions, I think this is a pretty good suggestion for them.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Juse14 on December 14, 2023, 01:18:27 PM
I am a gambler, and I am also a smoker. and I feel that stopping smoking is very difficult for me to do and I have tried it. And someone will stop smoking only when they are sick, and even then because they have to. because it was not allowed by the doctor who treated him. And when they recover, most people will return to smoking. Likewise with me.

And the same goes for gambling addicts, they will only stop when they have experienced a big loss. Because of the loss they experienced, the size of it will make them aware of how bad the gambling activity they are doing is. However, there are quite a few people who have experienced a big loss, but they still continue these activities. And hopes that in the next gambling session, the losses experienced will soon be recouped.
Addiction is a quite complicated problem, so getting out of this addiction is very difficult.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: khiholangkang on December 14, 2023, 01:23:55 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
It can be done, but it depends on the gambler himself, does he really want to change himself and avoid gambling? if someone has a strong determination, in my opinion he will definitely escape from his gambling addiction, even though it takes a long time, but with strong determination someone can get out of the thing that makes him worse.

Every addiction in my opinion has the same problem in his case, things that might be able to do if you want to do it by yourself then, stay away from environments that can remind you of gambling, do activities that are very time-consuming, your mind and energy, so you don't have time to think about gambling, because at night you will feel tired and choose to rest instead of placing bets. IMO


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Ultegra134 on December 14, 2023, 01:32:16 PM
I absolutely agree with you. Gradual reduction of gambling will not help in any way to solve the problem of gambling addiction.

I was able to get rid of several addictions that prevented me from living a normal life and I know from personal experience that if a person wants to get rid of any addiction he needs to first of all realize that he has a problem, and then already solve it, and drastically and harshly. Otherwise you will not solve the problem, but will only torture yourself.
I'm not sure; it depends on the person as well, doesn't it? It's certainly best to quit cold turkey, but how does one do that without relapsing shortly after and possibly going through multiple relapses? I've tried cutting a few bad habits (watching TikToks or Youtube shorts is probably the worst one I'm still facing) that way but almost always relapsed, sooner or later. Gradually reducing it seems a little less harsh to me, and it's something I opted for and pursued to at least spend less time. Will I ever manage to quit? I don't know; probably I will. Till then, I'm hoping that eventually I'll lash out and quit cold turkey by deleting any associated apps for good; they're a pure waste of time.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 14, 2023, 01:57:57 PM
In my opinion, gambling is not to stop smoking addiction, but rather to continue smoking, because in gambling games cigarettes are a friend to relieve stress and relax when gambling, especially if you lose you will definitely continue smoking to calm your emotions and relax when you lose when gambling. Maybe if you want to stop smoking, it's a good idea to reduce it first, don't stop immediately so that there are no problems with the condition of your body or your mind.

yep I agree with you, I myself am like that, if I do gambling I will definitely smoke of course because it is a pleasure that I can feel where I can enjoy gambling games and also accompanied by cigarettes, in my opinion someone who gambles does not make them stop smoking even that will make them smoke continuously. because it is true as you said, smoking can make us relax about what is going on and that is the function of smoking.

So in my own opinion gambling and cigarettes cannot be separated because these are things that give pleasure to each, but it all depends on the person, if someone who doesn't like smoking but does gambling is their right.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: BitcoinPanther on December 14, 2023, 09:24:40 PM
I absolutely agree with you. Gradual reduction of gambling will not help in any way to solve the problem of gambling addiction.

I was able to get rid of several addictions that prevented me from living a normal life and I know from personal experience that if a person wants to get rid of any addiction he needs to first of all realize that he has a problem, and then already solve it, and drastically and harshly. Otherwise you will not solve the problem, but will only torture yourself.
I'm not sure; it depends on the person as well, doesn't it? It's certainly best to quit cold turkey, but how does one do that without relapsing shortly after and possibly going through multiple relapses? I've tried cutting a few bad habits (watching TikToks or Youtube shorts is probably the worst one I'm still facing) that way but almost always relapsed, sooner or later. Gradually reducing it seems a little less harsh to me, and it's something I opted for and pursued to at least spend less time. Will I ever manage to quit? I don't know; probably I will. Till then, I'm hoping that eventually I'll lash out and quit cold turkey by deleting any associated apps for good; they're a pure waste of time.

There had been cases where a person stop in gambling suddenly to have their gambling habits to root more when they relapses.  Quitting abruptly without any process has been proven to be disastrous to gambler because they often suffers after effect their gambling activities.  They often have relapses and with that relapses grows the urge to gamble. If anyone wanted to quit gambling without any worry about relapses, they must undergo rehabilitation.  Quitting gambling need to undergo process and should be done gradually  through rehabilitation in order for the gambler to minimize  relapses and ready itself to completely quit his gambling activities.

Quitting cold turkey can be done, unless the gambler doing such action have strong will, he might end up more missing his gambling activity and eventually engaging in gambling again.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Stepstowealth on December 14, 2023, 09:33:37 PM
What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Different approach for different gamblers, for some gamblers, their approach to quitting will be to struggle to reduce the number of times they gamble, slowly until they can now control the habit, deciding if to gamble or not. For some other gamblers, stopping once is the best way because they will not be able to pass through the discipline of slow reduction. As a gambler who will like to quit but cannot, think of the other addictions that you may have had in your life and reason how you were able to overcome them. If you are able to remember correctly, maybe you will be able to know if the slow or sudden approach is your style.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 14, 2023, 09:40:41 PM
What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Different approach for different gamblers, for some gamblers, their approach to quitting will be to struggle to reduce the number of times they gamble, slowly until they can now control the habit, deciding if to gamble or not. For some other gamblers, stopping once is the best way because they will not be able to pass through the discipline of slow reduction. As a gambler who will like to quit but cannot, think of the other addictions that you may have had in your life and reason how you were able to overcome them. If you are able to remember correctly, maybe you will be able to know if the slow or sudden approach is your style.

depends on the willpower of the gambler to change his lifestyle for the better. if he has very solid reason why the sudden shift in his life, he can do it. but for most, they want to slow down their gambling activities first before totally surrendering to this habit.

either way, it is up to you which one would sustain you in the long run. because the usual dilemma is that you finally managed to stop but a simple desire to play can lead to more games to play again. so quitting all of a sudden may just be pointless.

however, whatever route you will traverse, the sustenance of your habit is the real challenge here. you need to remind yourself why you are doing this for long-term. without life changing reasons, would be hard for you to stick to your promises.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: johnsaributua on December 14, 2023, 10:37:47 PM
Addiction arises from habits, habits arise from curiosity, curiosity arises because you have tried and succeeded easily, in my opinion even activities in daily life also have the same potential.
If hobby in investing try for other instruments, but not instant, at least the loss is also not too fatal even a matter of minutes, although luck can come, I'm talking in terms of analysis not just luck.
I think there are many to choose from, when you get a profit that makes more sense and technically can be learned, then you can choose to gambling for fun or slowly enjoy in the world of other investments by yourself, and continue.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Oilacris on December 14, 2023, 10:43:22 PM
Addiction arises from habits, habits arise from curiosity, curiosity arises because you have tried and succeeded easily, in my opinion even activities in daily life also have the same potential.
If hobby in investing try for other instruments, but not instant, at least the loss is also not too fatal even a matter of minutes, although luck can come, I'm talking in terms of analysis not just luck.
I think there are many to choose from, when you get a profit that makes more sense and technically can be learned, then you can choose to gambling for fun or slowly enjoy in the world of other investments by yourself, and continue.
Habits/Hobbies or something that you do keep on repeating on doing or engaging with it then it would really be leading into that addiction.Although not all people would really be ending up
on this situation on which there are ones who are really that good when it comes to self control on which it would really be just that so normal that they would really be making those engagements
without making themselves being addicted. Its possible but it does really need up that kind of mind control or discipline towards yourself because if you do fail on doing so then you would really be
that become impulsive and becomes that too careless on dealing up with things even if its not really that worth or ideal anymore on doing so.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: lionheart78 on December 14, 2023, 11:08:52 PM
Addiction arises from habits, habits arise from curiosity, curiosity arises because you have tried and succeeded easily, in my opinion even activities in daily life also have the same potential.
If hobby in investing try for other instruments, but not instant, at least the loss is also not too fatal even a matter of minutes, although luck can come, I'm talking in terms of analysis not just luck.
I think there are many to choose from, when you get a profit that makes more sense and technically can be learned, then you can choose to gambling for fun or slowly enjoy in the world of other investments by yourself, and continue.

Addiction arises from being unable to control the urge of a certain activity.  Addiction will not emerge if a person has full control over his activity no matter how he regularly does things or habitually does them. 

And with that things said, a sudden quitting of an activity will do no good because a person's reaction on that will always lead to a person doing them again and again, or the thing we call relapse because the body is used to the kind of activity and will voluntarily doing the same thing again.

I think one of the best examples is the action we call mannerism.  It is the action of the body that we unintentionally do when in a certain situation.  And no one can stop mannerisms abruptly.  it needs a process to correct, so I also think the same way about gambling.  It takes time to fully stop gambling activities without the worry of relapses.



Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: klidex on December 15, 2023, 02:31:25 AM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Addiction cannot be stopped suddenly but must be driven by a strong impulse from within themselves and done slowly by reducing activities little by little, reducing expenses little by little, limiting the time spent gambling. It may seem easy, but this is very difficult for an addict to do, but if within themselves they have realized their mistake and have started to think clearly then they can do it, namely stop their addiction and the most important thing is their intention and determination to stop excessive gambling.

If someone does it slowly, I'm sure they can stop someday, even though it takes a little longer, but with family support, it might speed up their recovery. Active smokers can stop when they are sick and forced to stop, while someone addicted to gambling will stop when they experience it big losses and forcing him to improve his gambling so he doesn't make continuous mistakes, so in my opinion gambling addiction can still be stopped slowly but surely. ;)


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: johnsaributua on December 15, 2023, 01:29:03 PM
Addiction arises from habits, habits arise from curiosity, curiosity arises because you have tried and succeeded easily, in my opinion even activities in daily life also have the same potential.
If hobby in investing try for other instruments, but not instant, at least the loss is also not too fatal even a matter of minutes, although luck can come, I'm talking in terms of analysis not just luck.
I think there are many to choose from, when you get a profit that makes more sense and technically can be learned, then you can choose to gambling for fun or slowly enjoy in the world of other investments by yourself, and continue.

Addiction arises from being unable to control the urge of a certain activity.  Addiction will not emerge if a person has full control over his activity no matter how he regularly does things or habitually does them. 

And with that things said, a sudden quitting of an activity will do no good because a person's reaction on that will always lead to a person doing them again and again, or the thing we call relapse because the body is used to the kind of activity and will voluntarily doing the same thing again.

I think one of the best examples is the action we call mannerism.  It is the action of the body that we unintentionally do when in a certain situation.  And no one can stop mannerisms abruptly.  it needs a process to correct, so I also think the same way about gambling.  It takes time to fully stop gambling activities without the worry of relapses.
Yes it talks about addiction and habits, it is ideal that people can live life without having to depend on something that is still common but excessive, low expectations will reduce to ideal games and habits and not excessive, do you think you should stop gambling? or are you a smoker?

The fact is that people who quit smoking and continue to gamble will forget about their cigarettes because of the sensation of the game they enjoy every day, as well as people who quit gambling and continue to smoke can certainly focus on one or the other in their spare time, and get used to being without these two money-burning habits, even though they are literally different.

Yes, it's not just about quitting, it's about having other pleasures and replacing them with new sensations, by enjoying life more naturally, healthier, and better.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 15, 2023, 08:20:21 PM
Addiction arises from habits, habits arise from curiosity, curiosity arises because you have tried and succeeded easily, in my opinion even activities in daily life also have the same potential.
If hobby in investing try for other instruments, but not instant, at least the loss is also not too fatal even a matter of minutes, although luck can come, I'm talking in terms of analysis not just luck.
I think there are many to choose from, when you get a profit that makes more sense and technically can be learned, then you can choose to gambling for fun or slowly enjoy in the world of other investments by yourself, and continue.

Addiction arises from being unable to control the urge of a certain activity.  Addiction will not emerge if a person has full control over his activity no matter how he regularly does things or habitually does them. 

And with that things said, a sudden quitting of an activity will do no good because a person's reaction on that will always lead to a person doing them again and again, or the thing we call relapse because the body is used to the kind of activity and will voluntarily doing the same thing again.

I think one of the best examples is the action we call mannerism.  It is the action of the body that we unintentionally do when in a certain situation.  And no one can stop mannerisms abruptly.  it needs a process to correct, so I also think the same way about gambling.  It takes time to fully stop gambling activities without the worry of relapses.
Yes it talks about addiction and habits, it is ideal that people can live life without having to depend on something that is still common but excessive, low expectations will reduce to ideal games and habits and not excessive, do you think you should stop gambling? or are you a smoker?

The fact is that people who quit smoking and continue to gamble will forget about their cigarettes because of the sensation of the game they enjoy every day, as well as people who quit gambling and continue to smoke can certainly focus on one or the other in their spare time, and get used to being without these two money-burning habits, even though they are literally different.

Yes, it's not just about quitting, it's about having other pleasures and replacing them with new sensations, by enjoying life more naturally, healthier, and better.

We human beings have habits, customs and things that we always do known as routine, when we are accustomed to a certain type of activities and that does not make us feel good, and at the same time very happy, that is something very difficult to do. leaving it, when we try to leave one of those things, it is difficult and even though it is known that it is dangerous and harmful to our health, sometimes it is hard to leave something like that, but in retrospect we are people who must learn to leave what makes us damage, I have seen that there are people who know about these risks, and they don't care, I talk to them, I tell them the dangers they face and they don't stop them, they don't give them any importance, it's as if they don't care about their health, It seems incredible to me, I have always seen cases like that, and to remove some bad things is the hardest thing ever, this makes me remember a friend, well one of my friends that I always go out with, who also plays dice with the police in the middle of the border of Colombia and Venezuela, he is going through a very bad time.

His wife left him and he went to the USA out of nowhere, like saying that today she is with him and tomorrow he woke up in the USA and he didn't even say anything to him, he is wrong emotionally, but he said that he made a promise to Heavenly Father God, he was not going to drink alcoholic beverages again, not even beer, at most some guy for a meal or something like that, but they still came in to drink beers and just enough, 'he left that to him, and he told me that long before smoked and also made a promise like that and stopped smoking, I believe that everything depends on the will of the people to do things, if a person decides not to do something again, then he achieves it, because it is a way to get out of it At once, for the rest I see it as very deficient because it is something that you will not be able to do under any circumstances, which is why willpower and desire are better.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: goxcraft on December 15, 2023, 10:42:14 PM
What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Different approach for different gamblers, for some gamblers, their approach to quitting will be to struggle to reduce the number of times they gamble, slowly until they can now control the habit, deciding if to gamble or not. For some other gamblers, stopping once is the best way because they will not be able to pass through the discipline of slow reduction. As a gambler who will like to quit but cannot, think of the other addictions that you may have had in your life and reason how you were able to overcome them. If you are able to remember correctly, maybe you will be able to know if the slow or sudden approach is your style.
I don't think gambling addiction can be solved overnight. It never was an easy task, it never will be. Yes, there are different approach available for different individual. It was my family in my situation. They helped me greatly to overcome my gambling addiction. With time I started spending more times with my families. Additionally, I kept myself busy with work and certain extra curricular activities. With this I didn't have any time left to gamble again.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: n00ber on December 15, 2023, 11:26:31 PM
What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Different approach for different gamblers, for some gamblers, their approach to quitting will be to struggle to reduce the number of times they gamble, slowly until they can now control the habit, deciding if to gamble or not. For some other gamblers, stopping once is the best way because they will not be able to pass through the discipline of slow reduction. As a gambler who will like to quit but cannot, think of the other addictions that you may have had in your life and reason how you were able to overcome them. If you are able to remember correctly, maybe you will be able to know if the slow or sudden approach is your style.
I don't think gambling addiction can be solved overnight. It never was an easy task, it never will be. Yes, there are different approach available for different individual. It was my family in my situation. They helped me greatly to overcome my gambling addiction. With time I started spending more times with my families. Additionally, I kept myself busy with work and certain extra curricular activities. With this I didn't have any time left to gamble again.

If you are addicted to gambling, quitting gambling can be even more difficult than quitting drug addiction. Because gambling in some countries is legalized, they do not prohibit people from gambling. And currently, online gambling is growing widely. We can play anytime, anywhere.
A person with an addictionan addict wants to quit. Only he can decide. Relatives and friends can only support him to a certain extent. Quitting gambling was tough because no one could stop him if he still wanted to continue playing.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: o48o on December 16, 2023, 01:09:04 AM
Addiction arises from habits, habits arise from curiosity, curiosity arises because you have tried and succeeded easily, in my opinion even activities in daily life also have the same potential.
If hobby in investing try for other instruments, but not instant, at least the loss is also not too fatal even a matter of minutes, although luck can come, I'm talking in terms of analysis not just luck.
I think there are many to choose from, when you get a profit that makes more sense and technically can be learned, then you can choose to gambling for fun or slowly enjoy in the world of other investments by yourself, and continue.
Thing with habits is that you technically can reprogram those. But we just have to replace with habits that are bad for us with something more construtive. This doesn't mean we should get rid of all "bad" habits. Sometimes we just need to control them better. We often have habits because they comfort us, and some of those habits aren't good for us, even if they feel like it. As our brains connect those habits to something that's good for our body. It's an evolutionary leftover called superstimulus. That's something where our feelings, senses and emotions get hijacked supersized version something our body craves. That can be accomplishments, nutrition, feelings, etc...

This can happen with any habit. But it's easiest to explain with food. We crave sugar and carbs because in the past we used to need those a lot more as they were way more scarce to come by. So we are wired to consume them like it would be matter of life and death, and when it comes to our bodies, they would like to tell that there's no such thing as too much, because they haven't catched up by the fact we get way too much sugar.

We also crave patterns, as our brains rewards us for detecting threads and finding out how things work.
When we gamble, we unconsciously try to predict and find patterns that sometimes exist, but sometimes aren't there. But when we win, our brains still reward us, because they think we have succeeded at something important. Even if that has nothing to do with us. It's easier to combat against your cravings just by using willpower, when we understand where our cravings are coming from.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: fullhdpixel on December 16, 2023, 07:16:46 PM
It's a good idea if someone wants to get rid of their addiction to consult a professional. Usually this psychiatrist will advise whether a person should reduce the intensity of their gambling slowly or cut ties with it immediately.
But I think if a person wants to get away from his gambling addiction there is no other way than to cut ties with it completely. Because if a person decides to end their addiction straight away, and learns to restrain themselves, they will be able to control themselves better in the future. The problem of withdrawal symptoms is normal, you can stop yourself from doing that or, if necessary, take sedatives.
If only it was free, but maybe there is such thing? Usually it is sponsored by the local government. While most aren't and they are also expensive. Gamblers are aware of it, this is why they just do some alternative remedies to their problem which may not really be effective because at the end, they are still in control of their selves.

I think that even the professionals won't recommend the severely addicted gambler to cut their habit immediately, as this may cause a shock to them and can cause a side effect. So it's better to only tone it down slowly. But speaking of side effects, that sedatives you are talkin there might have it as well. So it's better to just do it the natural way like diverting our attention in some things.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Westinhome on December 16, 2023, 11:46:51 PM
If only it was free, but maybe there is such thing? Usually it is sponsored by the local government. While most aren't and they are also expensive. Gamblers are aware of it, this is why they just do some alternative remedies to their problem which may not really be effective because at the end, they are still in control of their selves.

I think that even the professionals won't recommend the severely addicted gambler to cut their habit immediately, as this may cause a shock to them and can cause a side effect. So it's better to only tone it down slowly. But speaking of side effects, that sedatives you are talkin there might have it as well. So it's better to just do it the natural way like diverting our attention in some things.

The gambler who play the game without addiction till his old ages can’t afford to quit the gambling.Even he doesn’t get addicted,the gambling was become the part of his life.So the gambler who play many years in the gambling can quit the game by step by step in the gambling.The first thing is the gambler must understand he should control the gambling deposit.If the money controlled in the gambling site,the number of the games to the gambling site also controlled by the gambler.The gambler can spend the time by playing the other game in their real life,So he can slowly get away from the gambling addiction.But the gamblers should ready to do this by his own mind.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Quidat on December 16, 2023, 11:51:04 PM
It's a good idea if someone wants to get rid of their addiction to consult a professional. Usually this psychiatrist will advise whether a person should reduce the intensity of their gambling slowly or cut ties with it immediately.
But I think if a person wants to get away from his gambling addiction there is no other way than to cut ties with it completely. Because if a person decides to end their addiction straight away, and learns to restrain themselves, they will be able to control themselves better in the future. The problem of withdrawal symptoms is normal, you can stop yourself from doing that or, if necessary, take sedatives.
If only it was free, but maybe there is such thing? Usually it is sponsored by the local government. While most aren't and they are also expensive. Gamblers are aware of it, this is why they just do some alternative remedies to their problem which may not really be effective because at the end, they are still in control of their selves.

I think that even the professionals won't recommend the severely addicted gambler to cut their habit immediately, as this may cause a shock to them and can cause a side effect. So it's better to only tone it down slowly. But speaking of side effects, that sedatives you are talkin there might have it as well. So it's better to just do it the natural way like diverting our attention in some things.
As much as possible if you could really be able to quit up on point then you should do it, because if you do really let things to be more in longer then you are really just that basically making
yourself putting up on much potential trouble and this is something that you should really be that avoiding. You cant really just that make those things easy, it might sounds easy but on the time
that you are on such condition or situation then it would really be that so damn hard to quit and this is why gambling business is so profitable because people are really that keeps coming
back as long they do have that kind of gambling mindset on which they do really believe that one day they would really be able to make some huge hit and potentially changed up their lives.
This is something a common wish and hope for those people who are engaging with gambling.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: klidex on December 17, 2023, 01:33:11 AM
I absolutely agree with you. Gradual reduction of gambling will not help in any way to solve the problem of gambling addiction.

I was able to get rid of several addictions that prevented me from living a normal life and I know from personal experience that if a person wants to get rid of any addiction he needs to first of all realize that he has a problem, and then already solve it, and drastically and harshly. Otherwise you will not solve the problem, but will only torture yourself.
I'm not sure; it depends on the person as well, doesn't it? It's certainly best to quit cold turkey, but how does one do that without relapsing shortly after and possibly going through multiple relapses? I've tried cutting a few bad habits (watching TikToks or Youtube shorts is probably the worst one I'm still facing) that way but almost always relapsed, sooner or later. Gradually reducing it seems a little less harsh to me, and it's something I opted for and pursued to at least spend less time. Will I ever manage to quit? I don't know; probably I will. Till then, I'm hoping that eventually I'll lash out and quit cold turkey by deleting any associated apps for good; they're a pure waste of time.

There had been cases where a person stop in gambling suddenly to have their gambling habits to root more when they relapses.  Quitting abruptly without any process has been proven to be disastrous to gambler because they often suffers after effect their gambling activities.  They often have relapses and with that relapses grows the urge to gamble. If anyone wanted to quit gambling without any worry about relapses, they must undergo rehabilitation.  Quitting gambling need to undergo process and should be done gradually  through rehabilitation in order for the gambler to minimize  relapses and ready itself to completely quit his gambling activities.

Quitting cold turkey can be done, unless the gambler doing such action have strong will, he might end up more missing his gambling activity and eventually engaging in gambling again.
Every addicted gambler definitely needs time to recover and really stop, not suddenly or through force, and needs to adapt to a new environment that does not influence him to gamble. Sometimes environmental factors are also affected for addicted gamblers. Just like drug addicts, they need time for rehabilitation to recover. Sometimes rehabilitation alone is not enough if they don't have the drive to truly recover completely. I once heard in my local media that an influencer consumed drugs and then they were taken to a rehabilitation center when they was declared cured, he left the center and carried out his activities again, but not long after, maybe a month later, the influencer relapsed and consumed illegal drugs again and this was reported by my local media, so this can be concluded if the influencer did not have any intention. to stop even though they have gone through rehabilitation, the same goes for a gambling addict or other addict if within themselves there is no intention of determination or drive to really stop then they will not be able to stop permanently one day it can still relapse if they couldn't control himself.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Belarge on December 17, 2023, 02:48:40 AM
The gambler who play the game without addiction till his old ages can’t afford to quit the gambling.Even he doesn’t get addicted,the gambling was become the part of his life.So the gambler who play many years in the gambling can quit the game by step by step in the gambling.The first thing is the gambler must understand he should control the gambling deposit.If the money controlled in the gambling site,the number of the games to the gambling site also controlled by the gambler.The gambler can spend the time by playing the other game in their real life,So he can slowly get away from the gambling addiction.But the gamblers should ready to do this by his own mind.
We have just one life which is not two, we're ready to level up our game to become very competitive and recording extreme profits, same way we face losses with our sad faces. Old age and struggles are mainly for gamblers that used most part of their earnings to gamble without setting out plans. Our minds becomes exposed and most of the gamblers I know turned addicts and will definitely be out of range. Quitting gambling is not easy as it seems, I've watch how people grow old and still hopes one day, they will milk the system heavily and they keep trying every single day to ensure we're on the right track.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: South Park on December 17, 2023, 06:37:27 PM
It's a good idea if someone wants to get rid of their addiction to consult a professional. Usually this psychiatrist will advise whether a person should reduce the intensity of their gambling slowly or cut ties with it immediately.
But I think if a person wants to get away from his gambling addiction there is no other way than to cut ties with it completely. Because if a person decides to end their addiction straight away, and learns to restrain themselves, they will be able to control themselves better in the future. The problem of withdrawal symptoms is normal, you can stop yourself from doing that or, if necessary, take sedatives.
If only it was free, but maybe there is such thing? Usually it is sponsored by the local government. While most aren't and they are also expensive. Gamblers are aware of it, this is why they just do some alternative remedies to their problem which may not really be effective because at the end, they are still in control of their selves.

I think that even the professionals won't recommend the severely addicted gambler to cut their habit immediately, as this may cause a shock to them and can cause a side effect. So it's better to only tone it down slowly. But speaking of side effects, that sedatives you are talkin there might have it as well. So it's better to just do it the natural way like diverting our attention in some things.
I am not so sure about that, those that are addicted often talk about learning how to enjoy the source of their addictive behavior in a moderate way, and recently there have been new therapies emerging that make that case instead of quitting completely, however there is a reason those persons are addicted and it is precisely because they cannot control themselves, so trying to quit slowly has very high chances to fail and it should be way more ineffective than quitting completely and on the spot.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: STT on December 17, 2023, 06:52:14 PM
Its not easier but possibly cold turkey is the only way to quit for some people.    I dont think cold turkey anything is the easiest way or nicest method to end something you previously enjoyed.   However if you have tried and failed to reduce your consumption or spending habits and its become a problem impacting the rest of your life either in time, attention or monetary balance to your budgets then you have run out of options you must then go cold turkey.  
  I know what I prefer to do in increasing my control of a product or service Im expending cash on which is moderate, reduce and half anything I was previously spending.   You learn best in any case when playing with one hand behind your back rather then all in type gambling where a failure is so devastating, better to learn from just small mistakes small wins be humble and patient;  in longer term the less addictive is better to last the distance and appreciate in your ability to win, learning the game fully before the bigger risks are undertaken.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Danslip on December 17, 2023, 06:55:04 PM
Addiction is still the main problem for regular gamblers, even tough compulsive gambling actions will lead to destructive behavior let's not forget the possible consequences for those who can't control this "funny activity". Quitting gambling addiction is not easy for some gamblers it is as easy as just banning the casino account on online gambling platforms. Decreasing the gambling activity has some positive effect on this purpose btw, so it depends on the person how he wants to quit gambling.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Oilacris on December 17, 2023, 06:58:27 PM
Its not easier but possibly cold turkey is the only way to quit for some people.    I dont think cold turkey anything is the easiest way or nicest method to end something you previously enjoyed.   However if you have tried and failed to reduce your consumption or spending habits and its become a problem impacting the rest of your life either in time, attention or monetary balance to your budgets then you have run out of options you must then go cold turkey.   
  I know what I prefer to do which is moderate, reduce and half anything I was previously spending.   You learn best when playing with one hand behind your back rather then all in type gambling where a failure is so devastating, better to learn from just small mistakes small wins be humble and patient, less addictive better all round longer term.
You wont really be putting up yourself on such condition if you are really just that responsible on the things you've been doing on which it isnt really just that limited to gambling but also in other things in life as well on which being excessive would really be always bad specially if its already compromising other things like time and finances on which we know that if things turns out to be messy then it would really be giving out that domino effect on which this is something that we dont really like to happen into our lives. It is really just that people would really be making out some realizations on the time that they are experiencing hard things in life. They wont really be putting up themselves on such scenario if they are really just that responsible into their actions.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 17, 2023, 07:03:55 PM

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
Well, to be honest, it is actually very possible for a gambler to quit gambling slowly and end up with a positive result, but this I believe have to everything to do with how deep the gambler is addicted to gambling.
For someone who is not all that deep in their addiction to gambling, quiting can be quite simple, like just reducing the amount of time spent on gambling, and then spending more time on other activities that could help the addicted gambler think less of or about gambling. The gambler could decide to find a new job that keeps him or her extremely busy all day, and very tired and only want to just lay down and sleep the very moment he or she gets home, and the next morning, he or she is up again and off to the same work, coming back again in the evening feeling same way like the previous day.

Trust me, if an average gambling addict will engage themselves in such as I explained above for like a month or two to three months max, he or she may come out of his or her gambling addiction, and may not even remember anymore that gambling exists.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: wiss19 on December 19, 2023, 06:11:42 AM
Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
It will depend on their addiction level. A person, who has just started gambling but is finding themselves getting hooked up with it slowly, might not have a lot of problems and can easily slowly quit gambling if they want to. However, if a person has already become extremely addicted to gambling and doesn't have enough patience and self-control to say no to the urge to gamble, such people can't quit slowly because they can't stop gambling because of the addiction.

People from the second category I've mentioned will never be able to get out of their gambling addiction on their own but will always need assistance from someone else. However, the first group can easily quit gambling if they try because they are not too deep into it yet and they can still take a U-turn.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: junder on December 19, 2023, 12:21:25 PM
Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?
It will depend on their addiction level. A person, who has just started gambling but is finding themselves getting hooked up with it slowly, might not have a lot of problems and can easily slowly quit gambling if they want to. However, if a person has already become extremely addicted to gambling and doesn't have enough patience and self-control to say no to the urge to gamble, such people can't quit slowly because they can't stop gambling because of the addiction.

People from the second category I've mentioned will never be able to get out of their gambling addiction on their own but will always need assistance from someone else. However, the first group can easily quit gambling if they try because they are not too deep into it yet and they can still take a U-turn.

Stopping a gambling addiction is not easy, in my opinion it takes a long time to get rid of a gambling addiction, because it is not easy to stop yourself from something you are addicted to and any addiction will definitely not be easy, especially with a gambling addiction where gambling addiction is very difficult if you want to get rid of it. because it is related to money which of course money is an important thing in life. Someone who wants to stop gambling must have a real intention within themselves because it is useless if they get support from other people or their family but in themselves there is no strong intention and determination. In order to stop gambling, I think they have to face many things that will likely torment them, it is also not easy to go through or face something like this where they will really be tested to restrain their desire to gamble.

how easy or difficult it is to stop gambling, I think they really have to stop if they have experienced a lot of losses because it is impossible for them to continue gambling in their life and it is also impossible for them to live side by side with gambling because gambling can make them lose in many ways and such as


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: irhact on December 19, 2023, 04:16:52 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

An addict can quit gambling by meeting a professional, those professionals have helped alot of addicted gamblers quit gambling and they have the experience they'll use to handle your issues. No gambler should think he can  do it on his own. If you decide to quit by yourself, you can always get into temptation that'll make you to go back to gambling. Addicts should also let their loved ones know about the problem that they're going through so they can help too.

Quitting slowly can be challenging but when you're getting guided by a professional that specialized in curing addiction for gamblers or other activities. He'll help you stay disciplined and you'll be free of addiction at last. Many individuals became addicts as they were gambling for money so getting them a good source of income before they quit or reduce gambling will help them to stop been addicted.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: cabron on December 19, 2023, 04:26:33 PM
Anything is possible as long as you are willing to do so, but of course there is consequences and it will still take time before you finally say that you are free from any gambling addiction. Quitting overnight might not be possible but you can still try until you make yourself succeed on this. Asking for a professional help is always advisable, if you are already addict i believe a help from someone can make your recovery even faster.

He will have cravings still but he if could fight it, it would be the fight of his life. It's just like the smoker fighting the nicotine addiction, he can walk a mile just to buy a pack of cigarettes but once he can get used to not smoking in a few weeks, he can make a sudden stop of this addiction. It's a struggle but it will be worth it.

If there is just one man who can attest himself doing this quitting all of a sudden and making it in the end. It will be the story of his life. But with the availability of online casinos and him having some money of his own, its the hardest thing to do.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: South Park on December 24, 2023, 08:26:49 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

An addict can quit gambling by meeting a professional, those professionals have helped alot of addicted gamblers quit gambling and they have the experience they'll use to handle your issues. No gambler should think he can  do it on his own. If you decide to quit by yourself, you can always get into temptation that'll make you to go back to gambling. Addicts should also let their loved ones know about the problem that they're going through so they can help too.

Quitting slowly can be challenging but when you're getting guided by a professional that specialized in curing addiction for gamblers or other activities. He'll help you stay disciplined and you'll be free of addiction at last. Many individuals became addicts as they were gambling for money so getting them a good source of income before they quit or reduce gambling will help them to stop been addicted.
Trying to quit on their own is often a sign they are still not ready to quit, since they still believe they have some control over their addiction and they prefer to do it alone thinking they know better than the medical community and the decades of experience they may have, which sounds really dumb when you think about it, but that is exactly what they believe, so until those people finally admit they need to receive professional help, it will be impossible for them to improve their condition.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Unbunplease on December 24, 2023, 08:32:54 PM

An addict can quit gambling by meeting a professional, those professionals have helped alot of addicted gamblers quit gambling and they have the experience they'll use to handle your issues. No gambler should think he can  do it on his own. If you decide to quit by yourself, you can always get into temptation that'll make you to go back to gambling. Addicts should also let their loved ones know about the problem that they're going through so they can help too.

Quitting slowly can be challenging but when you're getting guided by a professional that specialized in curing addiction for gamblers or other activities. He'll help you stay disciplined and you'll be free of addiction at last. Many individuals became addicts as they were gambling for money so getting them a good source of income before they quit or reduce gambling will help them to stop been addicted.

A person becomes addicted precisely because of the emotions that the game gives him. The size of winnings is not important for everyone. Dependence on games is likely to disappear only when a person can experience similar emotions from something else, but it is very difficult to find a normal alternative to it


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: South Park on January 02, 2024, 07:42:21 PM

An addict can quit gambling by meeting a professional, those professionals have helped alot of addicted gamblers quit gambling and they have the experience they'll use to handle your issues. No gambler should think he can  do it on his own. If you decide to quit by yourself, you can always get into temptation that'll make you to go back to gambling. Addicts should also let their loved ones know about the problem that they're going through so they can help too.

Quitting slowly can be challenging but when you're getting guided by a professional that specialized in curing addiction for gamblers or other activities. He'll help you stay disciplined and you'll be free of addiction at last. Many individuals became addicts as they were gambling for money so getting them a good source of income before they quit or reduce gambling will help them to stop been addicted.

A person becomes addicted precisely because of the emotions that the game gives him. The size of winnings is not important for everyone. Dependence on games is likely to disappear only when a person can experience similar emotions from something else, but it is very difficult to find a normal alternative to it
If someone has developed a dependency towards gambling due to the adrenaline rush they experiment then trying to find a replacement will simply switch their current dependency but not solve it, in a way those people should be way more difficult to treat, as those that are in it for the money they can make, can be convinced that it is impossible to get what they are looking for given enough time, while those that gamble too much for the emotions they feel are getting exactly what they wanted.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Fiatless on January 02, 2024, 07:52:55 PM
Not possible for a gambling addict to quit slowly. If gambling is a problem, the best is to just quit. After he quits, he can start to gamble again after a year. If he sees that he is still gambling in a way he waste money on it, he can quite again. This is how I stopped my gambling addiction.

But if the gambler do not quit and not able to quit, he needs something like rehabilitation program or medical consultant.
You won't say it is not possible because humans act and react to issues differently. It might not work for you but it might be the best solution for someone else. I have seen drug addicts who are permitted to take lesser addictive drugs to help them gradually quit drugs. Some therapists might recommend marijuana for a heroine or cocaine addict. Gradually it might be reduced to cigarettes until the person fully gains control over his life. So I believe gamblers can quit gradually. Maybe one can gradually reduce the amount and time he spends on casinos and this could help to curb excessive gambling.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Fatunad on January 02, 2024, 07:59:34 PM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

An addict can quit gambling by meeting a professional, those professionals have helped alot of addicted gamblers quit gambling and they have the experience they'll use to handle your issues. No gambler should think he can  do it on his own. If you decide to quit by yourself, you can always get into temptation that'll make you to go back to gambling. Addicts should also let their loved ones know about the problem that they're going through so they can help too.

Quitting slowly can be challenging but when you're getting guided by a professional that specialized in curing addiction for gamblers or other activities. He'll help you stay disciplined and you'll be free of addiction at last. Many individuals became addicts as they were gambling for money so getting them a good source of income before they quit or reduce gambling will help them to stop been addicted.
Trying to quit on their own is often a sign they are still not ready to quit, since they still believe they have some control over their addiction and they prefer to do it alone thinking they know better than the medical community and the decades of experience they may have, which sounds really dumb when you think about it, but that is exactly what they believe, so until those people finally admit they need to receive professional help, it will be impossible for them to improve their condition.
Actually you could really be able to quit on your own if you are really that serious on quitting, there are people who could really be able to quit up for themselves and there are ones who do really completely fail on doing so.
It would really be just that depending on what kind or type of person you are, there are ones who could quit and there are ones who do need professional help.The important thing on here is that you should really be avoiding yourself about getting addicted with gambling because once this thing would shackle you out then there's no way that you could be able to quit up so easily. So better to avoid at it all cost.
There are ones who are really that able to control themselves and wary on the actions that they are making and there are ones who do simply fail on doing so.

This is why it would really be that situational when it comes to gambling dealing. The main thing that you should have in mind is trying out your best not to commit out that mistake on getting impulsive into it.
Addiction problems cant really be resolved out overnight. So better to avoid it at all cost if you do really want to make yourself on having no problem towards your life
towards your finances.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Accardo on January 02, 2024, 08:22:44 PM
Not possible for a gambling addict to quit slowly. If gambling is a problem, the best is to just quit. After he quits, he can start to gamble again after a year. If he sees that he is still gambling in a way he waste money on it, he can quite again. This is how I stopped my gambling addiction.

But if the gambler do not quit and not able to quit, he needs something like rehabilitation program or medical consultant.
You won't say it is not possible because humans act and react to issues differently. It might not work for you but it might be the best solution for someone else. I have seen drug addicts who are permitted to take lesser addictive drugs to help them gradually quit drugs. Some therapists might recommend marijuana for a heroine or cocaine addict. Gradually it might be reduced to cigarettes until the person fully gains control over his life. So I believe gamblers can quit gradually. Maybe one can gradually reduce the amount and time he spends on casinos and this could help to curb excessive gambling.

Yes anybody willing to have a cold turkey can do that, especially in gambling. But it's not an easy process, the person wouldn't stop immediately. Op's term easier, in my response, is wrong. Because gambling has to do with mental health, and the addict wouldn't have enough control over himself to even realize his condition. Unless he's not deeply into the addiction or in a minimal level of gambling addiction, the person still needs the help of a therapist to get cured of his problem gambling. The procedures you mention above for a drug addict could be used to help a gambling addict, but due to the psychological effects it has on the gambler, the therapist also needs to establish a fresh relationship with the gambler. Because switching addiction is quite very hard for a gambling addict, the therapist needs not to give out straight advice to the gambler. Instead, it's preferable to let the gambler discuss how he feels being a gambling addict. And the pains he's having inside, as an addict.

It's known that the gambler may have gone through difficulties and loved ones going nuts on their new attitudes. Those ill experiences that make the addict feel nobody would be able to help him except himself, need to be shared with the therapist, to help facilitate therapy sessions between the both; therapist and the addicted gambler. Trying to tell a gambling addict what or not to do, doesn't seem effective, because he feels he's actually on the right track and everyone else's responses don't matter to him. So, having close conversations can help him think about the view of the therapist and begin to have a change. It's like a chronic disease, gambling addiction requires lots of time for the person to recover completely, that's why many users in their response said it's not easier to have a cold turkey in gambling addiction. Therapists have to make sure the player doesn't resist help, by not being bossy or making the process more difficult for the gambler. All these take lots of time, and the gamblers need to comply by attending therapy classes.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Dewi Aries on January 02, 2024, 09:18:37 PM
Addiction is still the main problem for regular gamblers, even tough compulsive gambling actions will lead to destructive behavior let's not forget the possible consequences for those who can't control this "funny activity". Quitting gambling addiction is not easy for some gamblers it is as easy as just banning the casino account on online gambling platforms. Decreasing the gambling activity has some positive effect on this purpose btw, so it depends on the person how he wants to quit gambling.

It is clear that addiction is always the worst impact that exists in gambling, someone will do anything for gambling and they will not be able to make any considerations in common sense, simply put people who are already addicted they will never stop doing various ways just to gamble. Obviously for the problem of consequences can never be tolerated, if you are involved in gambling then that means you must be prepared with all the risks that are clearly certain to occur, you can get a win but the risk will usually occur more often.

Of course, quitting or getting out of the addiction zone is difficult and even almost impossible for some people who do not have assertiveness in themselves, all they will feel is a lot of pressure as a result of addiction such as  experiencing financial problems etc., which is why we must always be able to apply self-control and some limits, every gambler can recover from addiction and they have their own way but unfortunately not all gamblers can do it because it is difficult to achieve awareness when the mindset is dominated by hopes for victory.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Hispo on January 02, 2024, 10:49:03 PM
In my experience, going off bad habit through the cold turkey method is rather difficult and sometimes it could turn against the person itself which seeks to better themelsves, due to the withdrawal effects on their behavior and way to function.
I had a friend who had problems with alcohol, several times he tried to quit cold turkey and he suffered from several days of cold sweating, nerviousness, lack of appetite and other undesirable sensations. In the end, he continued drinking to ease those symptoms.

Perhaps, it is because most of the cases I have seen had been mostly about people doing it all by their own and without support of their family and friends. If someone is dealing with addiction unrelated to the consumption of hard drugs and does not have much of family support, then I would  advice to quit the habit gradually, instead going cold turkey.



Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Odusko on January 02, 2024, 11:15:57 PM
Not possible for a gambling addict to quit slowly. If gambling is a problem, the best is to just quit. After he quits, he can start to gamble again after a year. If he sees that he is still gambling in a way he waste money on it, he can quite again. This is how I stopped my gambling addiction.

But if the gambler do not quit and not able to quit, he needs something like rehabilitation program or medical consultant.
For a gambling addicts who have quite and have successfully overcome the addiction to take the risk of gambling again is a bigger risk, i think the best thing to do as an addiction escapee is to totally stay away regardless of the urge.
Because having the urge to gamble again is still an additional element, and at that point, don't think thay the gambler is in charge and could possibly beat his addictions by continuing playing without sliding back to the addictions at some point.
Although it is easier for one with experience to be able to overcome the things that got him addicted in the first place and also avoid them.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: dezoel on January 03, 2024, 05:59:22 PM
Addiction is still the main problem for regular gamblers, even tough compulsive gambling actions will lead to destructive behavior let's not forget the possible consequences for those who can't control this "funny activity". Quitting gambling addiction is not easy for some gamblers it is as easy as just banning the casino account on online gambling platforms. Decreasing the gambling activity has some positive effect on this purpose btw, so it depends on the person how he wants to quit gambling.
Non-compulsive gambling doesn't cause addiction, so the basic problem is compulsive and excessive gambling because someone who gambles while staying within their limits will barely get addicted to gambling and even if they get addicted to it, they will only get addicted to the games or the habit of gambling and they will never spend everything they have on gambling because they know there is no way for them to recover the money once it is gone.

Compulsive gamblers will always become addicted to gambling and the main reason for that is they will be chasing their losses every time, and when don't stop because they think they will eventually do it which is what they think and not what happens.

So, people that avoid compulsive gambling will automatically stay away from gambling addiction.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: danherbias07 on January 03, 2024, 06:10:37 PM
Addiction is still the main problem for regular gamblers, even tough compulsive gambling actions will lead to destructive behavior let's not forget the possible consequences for those who can't control this "funny activity". Quitting gambling addiction is not easy for some gamblers it is as easy as just banning the casino account on online gambling platforms. Decreasing the gambling activity has some positive effect on this purpose btw, so it depends on the person how he wants to quit gambling.
Yep, that's true. This will depend on each person on how they can control their gambling habit. For me though, I'd like to stop it entirely and not slowly. I mean, why do I need to take it slowly if there's a chance I will go back the same way as before?
The same as what I did with my smoking addiction. I never trusted myself because I tried to slowly take it out of my system by numbering the amount of cigarette sticks that I intake per day but what it actually did is just enhance my urge to keep on smoking more. 
4 years ago, I stopped it without even taking one stick a day. I just think about my kids and I don't want them to receive the secondhand smoke in my breath. Somehow I did it and now I don't like the smell of the smoke.
If ever I will be addicted to gambling I think the better way is to do the same, keep myself busy about other things and focus on them. This is how I ended my smoking habit and I think the same way could be applied in other addictions. Or, maybe others have different ways on how they will deal with this dilemma. Maybe from therapists, or a group of people that will understand them.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: bitzizzix on January 03, 2024, 06:28:28 PM
Overcoming gambling addiction is not an easy process and also takes quite a long time to do. However, with serious effort and intention that must be instilled in the addict, and these two things are the beginning that must be done consistently. And also support from those closest to you such as family, friends and lovers, all of whom are required to help and support the healing process, including professional or expert help.
And apart from that, you also have to have a busy life or job that can help you forget about gambling and make you focus on your busy life or work, and this can also slowly help you forget about gambling.
And I say all of the above once you recognize your gambling problem and the first step is to admit that you have a gambling problem, because this awareness is the first step in recovery.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: topbitcoin on January 03, 2024, 06:56:50 PM
Quitting gambling is difficult and quitting smoking is even more difficult. In my circle and most of my friends are cigarette addicts, and so am I personally. There are no smokeless gatherings, unless I am with people who don't smoke, because I respect them. Likewise, when talking about gambling, I don't gamble when I'm in front of people who have never gambled. So when you want to leave the bad activities you are doing, then leave the relationships that can only bring you bad things.
 
I realize that even though gambling is fun, it is still quite detrimental, especially if done without good self-control. I'm quite worried that if I gamble in front of people who are quite unfamiliar with gambling, it could influence them to do the same thing. I'm worried that he can't control his gambling well, what's more, talking about good self-control, that's a difficult thing.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Dewi Aries on January 03, 2024, 07:25:44 PM
Quitting gambling is difficult and quitting smoking is even more difficult. In my circle and most of my friends are cigarette addicts, and so am I personally. There are no smokeless gatherings, unless I am with people who don't smoke, because I respect them. Likewise, when talking about gambling, I don't gamble when I'm in front of people who have never gambled. So when you want to leave the bad activities you are doing, then leave the relationships that can only bring you bad things.
 
I realize that even though gambling is fun, it is still quite detrimental, especially if done without good self-control. I'm quite worried that if I gamble in front of people who are quite unfamiliar with gambling, it could influence them to do the same thing. I'm worried that he can't control his gambling well, what's more, talking about good self-control, that's a difficult thing.

Obviously I agree with your idea of quitting gambling is very difficult, there are those who can quit gambling or addiction but their number is very small, on average those who have difficulty in my opinion are those who can never get rid of the hope of winning which of course is always the main trigger why someone has difficulty quitting the activity. Honestly you have a very good mindset by always limiting your gambling activities, as you have mentioned above that you will not do these activities when you are with people who do not know gambling at all, I must say that you have  a good level of care for others in terms of prevention.

I think real fun is when you can get a thrill but without any loss or risk of losing something, I think the idea of gambling just for fun is nothing more than a statement that will keep someone from overreacting, meaning limiting expectations by thinking that it's all just fun so as not to focus too much on winning. However we must agree that gambling is a risky activity, only winning and losing will happen at the end, even if you only put a small amount but there is still an element of potential loss.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Oilacris on January 03, 2024, 11:57:40 PM
Quitting gambling is difficult and quitting smoking is even more difficult. In my circle and most of my friends are cigarette addicts, and so am I personally. There are no smokeless gatherings, unless I am with people who don't smoke, because I respect them. Likewise, when talking about gambling, I don't gamble when I'm in front of people who have never gambled. So when you want to leave the bad activities you are doing, then leave the relationships that can only bring you bad things.
 
I realize that even though gambling is fun, it is still quite detrimental, especially if done without good self-control. I'm quite worried that if I gamble in front of people who are quite unfamiliar with gambling, it could influence them to do the same thing. I'm worried that he can't control his gambling well, what's more, talking about good self-control, that's a difficult thing.
Any form of addiction isnt really that too easy for us to quit specially if you've been dealing with it for a long time but its not something that would really be impossible. It would really be just that depending on a certain individual if they would really be that serious on quitting up gambling for good or anything that they are currently dealing with.
This is why this situation would really be that depending in a certain individual because self control level will really be that differ into each other and this is why it would really be that
always best that you should really be that sensible on the things that you are doing. If you do find yourself that impulsive towards gambling then it would really be a huge problem on your part.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Assface16678 on January 04, 2024, 12:35:47 AM
Quitting gambling is difficult and quitting smoking is even more difficult. In my circle and most of my friends are cigarette addicts, and so am I personally. There are no smokeless gatherings, unless I am with people who don't smoke, because I respect them. Likewise, when talking about gambling, I don't gamble when I'm in front of people who have never gambled. So when you want to leave the bad activities you are doing, then leave the relationships that can only bring you bad things.
 
I realize that even though gambling is fun, it is still quite detrimental, especially if done without good self-control. I'm quite worried that if I gamble in front of people who are quite unfamiliar with gambling, it could influence them to do the same thing. I'm worried that he can't control his gambling well, what's more, talking about good self-control, that's a difficult thing.
Any form of addiction isnt really that too easy for us to quit specially if you've been dealing with it for a long time but its not something that would really be impossible. It would really be just that depending on a certain individual if they would really be that serious on quitting up gambling for good or anything that they are currently dealing with.
This is why this situation would really be that depending in a certain individual because self control level will really be that differ into each other and this is why it would really be that
always best that you should really be that sensible on the things that you are doing. If you do find yourself that impulsive towards gambling then it would really be a huge problem on your part.
That's why sometimes fate itself will make you quit gambling, either by yourself or by force. For example, if the situation is really bad to the point that you already sold your assets or property just to fund your gambling hobbits, then if the gambler comes to the point that he has nothing left and still wants to gamble at all costs, he can't do anything about it because he has no money or anything at all. This kind of situation is where gamblers will stop their addiction and start to reflect on their lives, but at this point in their lives, there is a possibility that they can't bring back their previous way of life.

If a person knows that he can't control himself from being addicted to something, then it's best to just don't go near gambling because even if you do it out of fun and entertainment, little do they know they are slowly becoming addicted to the point that gambling will be part of their daily routine.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Tipstar on January 04, 2024, 01:10:24 AM
If someone is a problem gambler and has repeatedly relapsed to problematic behavior related to gambling, I have come to the conclusion that it's best to quit cold turkey.

With other things it can sometimes be recommended that the addict slowly winds down their consumption of the addictive activity or substance, but that doesn't sound very realistic with gambling, does it?

Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

That is a good advice. Gambling addiction Unlike substance issues doesn't have physical withdrawal symptoms. People might be missing the adrenaline but you can avoid it if your willingness is strong enough.
The thing gambling addict should admit is you can't get back the lost gambling money through gambling. It's better to start from scratch. Stopping gambling is a much larger asset than the money you have lost.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: alegotardo on January 04, 2024, 01:16:41 AM
Not possible for a gambling addict to quit slowly. If gambling is a problem, the best is to just quit. After he quits, he can start to gamble again after a year. If he sees that he is still gambling in a way he waste money on it, he can quite again. This is how I stopped my gambling addiction.

But if the gambler do not quit and not able to quit, he needs something like rehabilitation program or medical consultant.

It depends! I believe that it is possible to reduce addiction without completely stopping gaming, but to do so you need a few factors:

1. The person really needs to be aware of the problem and willing to change their life. If she doesn't admit that she is addicted or even admits it but believes that "everything is fine", then she won't be able to change.

2. It is necessary to have help from someone who will control access to the games, limiting the time they can play and also the money spent on the games. To do this, this person needs to be extremely trustworthy as they will need full access to the money in order to control it and also to the player's personal life to be able to limit their access to the game.

If the addicted player manages to improve, over time it is possible to give him more freedom and see if he can maintain control on his own.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Fundamentals Of on January 04, 2024, 01:25:15 AM
Yes, I agree. Gambling isn't a substance that our body has grown dependent over time due to regular or continuous use. Gambling is simply an activity. There won't be a significant change in our body and its chemicals simply because we abruptly end gambling.

But I think quitting gambling should be a process of replacing it with another fun and enjoyable activity that would effectively take away our minds from gambling. If we are focused on something else that we also enjoy doing, we can forget about gambling.

Slow and gradual process in staying away from gambling would only make you gamble more. The best is to stay away from it once and for all.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: Blitzboy on January 04, 2024, 01:35:10 PM
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That's why sometimes fate itself will make you quit gambling, either by yourself or by force. For example, if the situation is really bad to the point that you already sold your assets or property just to fund your gambling hobbits, then if the gambler comes to the point that he has nothing left and still wants to gamble at all costs, he can't do anything about it because he has no money or anything at all. This kind of situation is where gamblers will stop their addiction and start to reflect on their lives, but at this point in their lives, there is a possibility that they can't bring back their previous way of life.

If a person knows that he can't control himself from being addicted to something, then it's best to just don't go near gambling because even if you do it out of fun and entertainment, little do they know they are slowly becoming addicted to the point that gambling will be part of their daily routine.
I often think about fate. Its funny that life sometimes stops bad habits. When a gambler is broke, he must reflect. I've seen this happen; its unpleasant but potentially revolutionary. Rebuilding life after addiction is difficult, sometimes wrought with regret and the need to piece together a fractured life.

Definitely agree on preventive. Those at risk of addiction should avoid gambling. Still, isnt self-control and awareness just as important? Not all gamblers become addicted. You must know your boundaries, be disciplined, and view gambling as fun, not a way out of life. We shouldt ban gambling, but we can promote responsible and healthy play.

Gamblers need judgment-free online and offline support. Sharing experiences, raising awareness, and providing self-help resources are crucial. Promoting healthy gambling while recognizing addiction is key. This strategy helps responsible gamblers and protects individuals who may be at risk while gambling.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: bitgolden on January 05, 2024, 05:49:53 PM
I often think about fate. Its funny that life sometimes stops bad habits. When a gambler is broke, he must reflect. I've seen this happen; its unpleasant but potentially revolutionary. Rebuilding life after addiction is difficult, sometimes wrought with regret and the need to piece together a fractured life.

Definitely agree on preventive. Those at risk of addiction should avoid gambling. Still, isnt self-control and awareness just as important? Not all gamblers become addicted. You must know your boundaries, be disciplined, and view gambling as fun, not a way out of life. We shouldt ban gambling, but we can promote responsible and healthy play.

Gamblers need judgment-free online and offline support. Sharing experiences, raising awareness, and providing self-help resources are crucial. Promoting healthy gambling while recognizing addiction is key. This strategy helps responsible gamblers and protects individuals who may be at risk while gambling.
There are a lot of people who stopped too, so it is not like it's unheard of before, it is not like we have never seen anyone who has done badly and then not stop, we have seen some that managed to stop too. Obviously there are some addicts that goes worse and worse, even go as far as committing crimes to get some money to keep gambling, even hurt others to get some money and do some more.

However, I have seen also plenty of people who lost all their money, and then they ended up being even worse, I feel like that should be the most important part of the deal as well. I get that it's bad to get addicted, but it is also even more important if you could get rid of your addiction, it makes for a great story and should be appreciated.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: topbitcoin on January 06, 2024, 05:30:31 PM
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I think real fun is when you can get a thrill but without any loss or risk of losing something, I think the idea of gambling just for fun is nothing more than a statement that will keep someone from overreacting, meaning limiting expectations by thinking that it's all just fun so as not to focus too much on winning. However we must agree that gambling is a risky activity, only winning and losing will happen at the end, even if you only put a small amount but there is still an element of potential loss.

I agree with that, because if we have too high expectations of gambling, then this will only lead us to the worst thing we can face in gambling which is addiction and significant losses. And I can't deny that sometimes when I gamble, there is a great expectation that gambling can bring me profits and gambling can increase my wealth in a short time. Gambling for a group is quite a good thing and can at least prevent us from bad behavior when gambling and can also prevent us from feeling addicted to gambling itself. but then again sometimes we like to feel a little disappointed and regret when we lose, so that in the end at the end of the game we don't get pleasure but just the opposite.

Any form of addiction isnt really that too easy for us to quit specially if you've been dealing with it for a long time but its not something that would really be impossible. It would really be just that depending on a certain individual if they would really be that serious on quitting up gambling for good or anything that they are currently dealing with.
This is why this situation would really be that depending in a certain individual because self control level will really be that differ into each other and this is why it would really be that
always best that you should really be that sensible on the things that you are doing. If you do find yourself that impulsive towards gambling then it would really be a huge problem on your part.

When a person intends to end his gambling activities, then he must not only leave the casino and no longer visit it, but also must leave his environment or social circle whose associations are only filled with gambling. Quitting gambling is not an easy thing to do.


Title: Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey
Post by: South Park on January 09, 2024, 09:11:27 PM
I often think about fate. Its funny that life sometimes stops bad habits. When a gambler is broke, he must reflect. I've seen this happen; its unpleasant but potentially revolutionary. Rebuilding life after addiction is difficult, sometimes wrought with regret and the need to piece together a fractured life.

Definitely agree on preventive. Those at risk of addiction should avoid gambling. Still, isnt self-control and awareness just as important? Not all gamblers become addicted. You must know your boundaries, be disciplined, and view gambling as fun, not a way out of life. We shouldt ban gambling, but we can promote responsible and healthy play.

Gamblers need judgment-free online and offline support. Sharing experiences, raising awareness, and providing self-help resources are crucial. Promoting healthy gambling while recognizing addiction is key. This strategy helps responsible gamblers and protects individuals who may be at risk while gambling.
That is the famous rock-bottom, and while many of those that got addicted need to reach that stage in order to begin to think about their lives and what they have done with it, those which have reached that stage have very low chances of ever fixing their lives, as by that time it is very likely they have taken decisions which cannot be taken back anymore, like getting in massive debt, committing crimes or losing their family, and any attempt to try fix their life will take them decades of constant effort at best to get the results they are looking for.