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You are at the poker table and then one guy on the other side raises the plot to $20 and then another $50. Knowing your pair may not win if he has a higher pair, you decide to fold.

If I were on the table, I would like to know what his cards are so that I can know sometime in the future whether he is bluffing or not but he just mixes his cards with the rest of the pile without me knowing what they are. I'd feel like I am cheated.

Would you just be annoyed not knowing the cards that made you fold?

If everybody folds then he doesn't have to show his cards, but it works both ways. When you fold, you also don't have to show what you had. This is a fair rule when the stakes are high. Often people bluff with nothing in hand and get everybody scared. If the table knew that they are this bold, they'd bet against him more often and wouldn't get bullied by him anymore. At the same time you can try to bluff half way and then finally get scared and fold. You wouldn't want the whole table to know that, would you?

So, the answer is yes, I'd like to know his cards, but I wouldn't want the rest of the players to know my cards :D Since we can't make it like that it's fine as it is.
When I play with friends we always show what we had, but that's a different situation.

Well you can ask him to show his cards. But the thing is the players are not going to show it by default, unless he wants to proved a point or just showing his bluff to make you feel that you made the wrong decision. And I guess that's one reason why poker are exciting and why there are players or gamblers who go professional. There is this element that you wanted to out hustle the other player. However, it's really up to you, for me I'm fine with the playing not showing his cards. I already made the decision to fold as I think that he has a greater hand than mind.

Before folding the cards it is wise to see it rather than just folding it especially when other players are not comfortable with it. Although it is not a rule to show it but knowing what is in the card is good to be sure it is genuine and not being cheated like you said. Some player maybe dubious to join the cards together even when it is not the required card.

You are right, if majority of the players says he should show his card, he will do so to clear all possible doubt. One the other hand you should also know that it is the choice of that player to show his card or not because it is not compulsory and the rules don't allow such.

This is why it is good to play with reputable people that wouldn't like to cheat and when you fold, you know that he has won the game rather than thinking that he is cheating.

Yes, maybe sometimes depending on the specific scenario. Not knowing the cards that led you to fold can be frustrating but adds an element of mystery to the game, it’s part of the game’s strategy and charm, a game of incomplete information. It is not just a game of chance, but also a game of skill, strategy, and psychological warfare. But it can also leave you with that nagging feeling of wanting closure. It's like a puzzle with missing pieces, and you're left wondering if you made the right decision. It’s natural to feel curious or even frustrated when you fold and don’t get to see what cards led to that decision. Folding can be tough, especially when you have a decent hand like a pair, every poker player has been in that situation. So yeah, they’re right it what makes the game exciting and challenging. You’ll better read your opponents’ behaviors and betting patterns over time.

This bothers everyone and actually is the beauty of poker. Bluffing is what makes poker interesting and different from other forms of gambling. It also involves reading your opponents mind and making your competitor believe you are not bluffing.
It's a wiser move to let bluffers win than take risk on your poor set of cards. But if you believe your cards are competitive, you should not stay behind provided your bankroll backs you up. Occasional bluffs are considered a strategic move but the person that bluffs too much would not be taken serious by the table and when there are multiple opponents in the table, the bluffers would have higher chances of losing. 

If you want to know what his cards were, you pay to see them. It's really as simple as that, there is no you were cheated. You got outplayed or he had you beat, either is true. Only a bad player or inexperienced player would think they were cheated.

Ofcourse someone can get over annoyed in this, that is why we need to be very wise enough when playing poker and open our eyes down very well that we don't miss out on every activities that is happening from there, i understand that people to cheat and there's nothing to do about that, but that is if you allowed for that, i will be very annoyed on that same particular card that made me fold at the end, anyway, such happens in gambling.

There was a time when I was just watching the game, I was still interested to know the cards of both players. It bothers me at some point and the more it bothers me when I was the guy who is on the losing side. Our pot is not more than a thousand that he has to be that serious.

This thread should have been a poll so we'll see who also feels they have the right to see the other guy's card. Or am I just too Karen to feel this way?  ;D

I am happy with the discussion of poker in this gambling discussion because it is full of discussion of casino games or sports betting, it is rare to hear discussions about this poker game against other players which I enjoy more than other casino games, for me the game of poker has an adrenaline feeling that cannot be avoided. expressed in words but it is more fun than playing casino or sports betting.

As long as I play poker I think we all know every player wants to get money at the table by bluffing the opponent, so why feel annoyed because you don't know the opponent's cards if you just want to know how he plays, bluffing is something that all poker players do and I I'm sure everyone enjoys doing this, especially when they hold big cards in their hands, of course they are even happier raising the bet even higher.  ;D

Each player's tricks and playing style are very different, some prefer to wait for other players to advance the plot and there are also those who just bluff. Those who feel the pair is lower or do not dare to reply to another player's bluff even though the pair is higher, will decide to fold.
There are no rules requiring you to show your cards to other players, obviously they won't do it because their tricks and playing style must be kept secret. This kind of excitement is what makes a poker player's mentality tested, when another player raises the plot, someone has to cater to his playing style to find out what kind of cards he is holding.

Normally, in a situation like this, anyone would feel cheated when the next guy just shuffles the card into the deck without revealing first the cards, I'd feel cheated because it could turn out that the player was only bluffing and you just decided to fold when you could've actually won.

But then again, you'd ask yourself if the risk is worth taking, what of you decide not to fold and decides to proceed with the plot they raised and then it turns out not to be a bluff, that time, you'd wish you had folded, so the question should be, is the risk worth taking and do you have such money to spare?

This one is funny.

I think we all know, this one depends on the opponent. Showing the card can lead to somebody feeling the person are cocky to him, all player just want safe play by not showing the card. Unless, you know the person (like friend)

Or at least you can ask him during the fold, perhaps he maybe want to show his hand after you say "Nice-Play".

Not at all, when I decided to fold my cards, of course I had considered what I was doing.

Poker is a psychology game, that's why after you decide to fold your cards, the dealer will not show your opponent's cards (in the case of 1 on 1), it feels cheating if you are shown your opponent's cards after you fold, because it's his attempt to make you fold and destroy psychology of your game.

You weren't cheated, you were bluffed.

The user doesn't have to show you his cards if you didn't pay for it, and that way you will never know if it was a bluff or if the opponent had the nuts.

Just as tip, when you are playing poker don't be scared of money, be scared of carts, if your hand isn't good then don't put money on it. And if you want to bluff first you need to win some hands, that will make the users think you only bet when you have a hand to win.

YES! I hate it when it happens, I know that they don't need to reveal their cards when everyone at the table folds and it could be part of their strategy but my curiosity is killing me when they don't reveal their cards. I used to get extremely frustrated about it to the point that it affected my gameplay but I learned how to get over it, but sometimes I wonder if the card I got folded on really beats my card.

It will depend on the player whether he will show his card to you after you fold. That's why the game is fair. You don't want to hurt your feelings just because he didn't show his card, plus he raised a bigger amount so that means he won.
It is better that you ask if he can show his card to you. I mean there is nothing wrong with it. Maybe you panic at that time because he raised the bet so you just thought of folding and admitting your defeat.


However, in the poker game, there are many wise players, and they can cheat you if you hesitate or lose your defense especially if you don't focus on the game. Poker is fun and at the same time you can make money through betting, but you must concentrate and balance correctly whether your card will win or not. In short focus and analyze.

Is that normal for a poker experience?
Being someone who has gotten used to online tables, I have been used to seeing other people's hands.

This really depends on house rules and how strict a dealer would be I guess.
Not that it matters for the outcomes, but sometimes it's just common courtesy. Best to follow the rules and if someone discovers they don't like the rules they can of course leave. Many casinos to chose from.

It is a players choice not to show his card unless majority of people in your area is requesting to show it to everyone and if a player is confident enough, he can show it to you but to be fair, you will be doing the same oncs he wants to see yours. It's valid for you to feel that you're cheated on but for your peace of mind, you may talk with him in a good way.

You shouldn't be because if the tables were turned and you were making the moves, be it a bluff or not, and your opponent fold you wouldn't want him to know if it was a bluff or not.  If he really wants to know then he should pay and make the call.  Lol.

That's where the skill comes in when you're playing poker, esp in no limit and pot limit games.  It's not totally about the cards, it's your bet sizes, your reads and how you could manipulate your opponents into calling and folding.  And sometimes even making raising.

I'd definitely want to know. It's a window to how he plays, after all, at least a part of it anyway. Especially in cases where you folded against him alone. Are there even instances where the winner's hand isn't revealed? At least in my experience winners' hands are usually shown even if everyone else folds, just to make it fair to all.

Well in short games it might not matter, but in long ones? Every habit counts. I mean, I'm pretty sure anyone who sits at the table is aiming to win and would try anything to get that win, at least legally ofc. In addition, it's a skill in itself to make your opponents think about your next move and fool them afterwards. Kind of more fun that way really.

I'd be annoyed, that's for sure. But that's the thing with poker, you must know when to move on as fast as you can. Regrets will only make you play bad and you don't want that to happen during a game. Poker players must stay focused and that means forgetting the last round and living with the present.
You can be annoyed all you want but if you won't get over it then you will be wasting a lot of money by just sitting there and losing all your chips.

It happened to me before and even joked with a friend to reveal his cards and damn I could've won that round if only I stayed. But the deciding point is always whether you will fold or not. It cannot be while you are watching and you don't have your cards anymore.

Well in poker things are like that, sometimes the things that happen are very Difficult to give, because a person can play with our mind, obviously things are like that , but Personally when I decide to play poker I know that I'm going to face things like that , but in that case I think I'm one of those who follow the bet and if I lose I Retire and don't play anymore, because I'm one of those people who always give everything until the end, I'm not one to be like that. Thinking about what I can do or not, I am more than what I can achieve, in fact playing poker, things like that have always happened to me, but I always prefer to continue the game, not give up but continue, of course, if it reaches an amount that I can't, but I only leave it until there, but that almost never happens, so if that's the case I do it, in case someone bets like 500usd, it's obvious that I leave my money there, and of course, I would like to see what I lost Because that's how I see the personality of the person, if it's a very good game, it's because it tells me that that person is very confident when he has a big game, but he's insistent when he doesn't.

In most poker players we see their attitudes and how they take things to another level, because of the great amount of good things that we can find out more, I don't know if you remember the movie Maverick with Mel Gibson, he always studied his players, Opponents like that , of course , in a movie ,  but the way he Played was very logical, now things are more difficult to study, because as a player you don't see the person, you don't know what he has or what he has. do, then it is difficult, however knowing the Personality of a Person playing poker is difficult, if there is no talent it is difficult, you have to be very intuitive, calculating, know well which cards have been played, it is something difficult It is difficult to determine, but if you can, in online PVP games it seems to me that many things can be applied.

What site are you playing at?  In most sites it's almost always the player's choice to show or not if everybody else folded around him.  The game would be pointless if it's required for anybody to show their cards after everybody folds.  Poker is a game of incomplete information and it should be used at the best of the player's abilities even if he decides to show at times when he thinks it'll give him the advantage at the next dealt hands.

And as you said it's a window to how somebody plays.  So if you had the edge over most of the players at the table, would you really want to lose your edge by showing your cards everytime?  :/