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Title: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Agbamoni on December 13, 2023, 02:28:25 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: SmartGold01 on December 13, 2023, 02:41:08 PM
For a single person I can accept that is a heritage because some of the most known player today are the cost their parents or their relatives were into footballing and they are skilled and dedicated ones for that matter. Then go back to team or as club in a football when they don't have structure and solid foundation it makes it very difficult to achieve some common league why because there are lots of incompetent players that was brought into the club all less it's being change to have a newly signed up players otherwise such team won't experience much growth but as time keeps going you will later find out that there is need for a total structure.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Oshosondy on December 13, 2023, 02:43:03 PM
Do not get this wrong. You will see some clubs in relegation now. If you go back in the past, you will see them in the first league which is the top league in the country. If you need examples, I can make make research about it and tell you. I am talking about decades to a century.

Some clubs are always at the top most of the time because they are richer and buy best players. The have better sponsors and they go better.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Agbamoni on December 13, 2023, 02:48:59 PM
Do not get this wrong. You will see some clubs in relegation now. If you go back in the past, you will see them in the first league which is the top league in the country. If you need examples, I can make make research about it and tell you. I am talking about decades to a century.

Some clubs are always at the top most of the time because they are richer and buy best players. The have better sponsors and they go better.
I would appreciate if you show me some instances buddy.

No doubt money can influence the performance of a team because they have the money to buy expensive players but there is no assurance that that player will perform well in the team. Manchester united had bought two players last season Antonio and one other guy but what are they doing now? Also, Chelsea bought so many players as well still there have not been much an improvement. Expensive players and bad management will still lead to the downfall of the team.

What is more important is how well can the manger use those players to bring success to the team.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Rockstarguy on December 13, 2023, 02:56:29 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
Let's use club like Manchester City as an example,  Manchester City is a club that really knows the kind of players they want, same thing with the kind of coaches they want. Manchester City always go for quality and they do not fall below their standard of managing a player hoping that the player will do better in the future.  Because of the club having an understanding of what they want it has always help the club to do well in every season.

If Manchester City decides to bring average players and a coach that is not well experienced,  I promise you will see the club close to the relegation zone, because Manchester City is good it does not mean if an average player should be signed  into the club it does not guarantee that the average player will inherit the good performance former good players.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Oshosondy on December 13, 2023, 03:09:11 PM
I would appreciate if you show me some instances buddy.
Example is when Leicester City won the EPL in 2015/2016. Now in Championship.
Blackburn Rovers left relegation in 1992 and won premier League in 1994/1995, but relegated later.
I think only Arsenal has not relegated from Premier League before since many decades ago before 1992.

You can take a look at this table, you will know that many if the clubs have related before

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrelegated_association_football_clubs

But some clubs are good and now retaining good title for many years because of the reason that I stated above which is better sponsorship offers and better players because they have money to buy the players to play for them. They also have they best managers.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: topbitcoin on December 13, 2023, 03:18:04 PM
The initial foundation is indeed very important but besides that we must also realize that such things cannot be maintained all the time and indeed we have seen many clubs that even used to be a very good club but slowly their consistency to be a big club must be displaced for several reasons that make their consistency and club name fade over time.
Even we know for the EPL there are a lot of clubs that were very good in the last few decades but slowly it was replaced with a new spirit or indeed money that controlled.
Now maybe the latest if you know there is the name of the Santos club in Brazil which has even given birth to many legends such as Pele and Neymar even they now have to be relegated after more than 1 century never felt the bitterness of a decline in performance so in this case the synergy must be maintained because in the end the legacy or whatever it is still when there is no really good synergy it can make them lose a hope that makes the club go out.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: 8rch7 on December 13, 2023, 03:22:52 PM
Let's use club like Manchester City as an example,  Manchester City is a club that really knows the kind of players they want, same thing with the kind of coaches they want. Manchester City always go for quality and they do not fall below their standard of managing a player hoping that the player will do better in the future.  Because of the club having an understanding of what they want it has always help the club to do well in every season.

If Manchester City decides to bring average players and a coach that is not well experienced,  I promise you will see the club close to the relegation zone, because Manchester City is good it does not mean if an average player should be signed  into the club it does not guarantee that the average player will inherit the good performance former good players.
Not only Manchester City but also Chelsea as an example how money get most important thing for both teams success won many trophies after acquisition and have much money. Abramovich success make Chelsea become big fourth of Premier League teams and Manchester City dominance winning many Premier League trophies after having much money.
Teams football history is not really important now because money can make unpredictable team success lead top achievement, I sure if new teams get huge investor in the future will be top team and dominance with domestic league competition. After Manchester City which one new teams will change the old dominance team for winning domestic league trophies?


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: TheUltraElite on December 13, 2023, 03:34:49 PM
These clubs have had their heritage and indeed it is somewhat spiritual. The fans and their craze and the emotion that goes into these games is on another level. That is why gambling on these games is common and has become regular from majority of sports players out there.

Some game lovers might disagree here that the heritage is being destroyed by gambling and the fan-craze, but I see these things as one fuels the other and if you have craze you will have betting happening too and its good for the games and the companies that run them.

Overall, we should do our part in preserving the heritage.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Cookdata on December 13, 2023, 03:50:40 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

What about teams that have been the face of the Leagues many years back but today, they are one of the most shitty clubs to ever exist. Look at Manchester United and Chelsea for example, they have a history of being one of the greatest teams in any English Leagues but look at what has been happening to them, it is a shame to even openly support them and even the fans have stress to breathing anytime they have a match because they always choke them all the time. In the past, even in their worst moment, they were not this bad as they used to play in the past, I don't think your facts can checkmate in some aspect.

There may be some clubs I have to know in many leagues, your theory might be right in this aspect because if you take a deep decades back to the club, they don't have anything to show off about the club performance, if you watch Premier League very well, Everton for the last 20 years don't have a Premier League in their shelf, Nottingham Forest doesn't have too for the last 4o years and somehow these teams many times played repeatedly in the Premier League.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Zanab247 on December 13, 2023, 04:05:20 PM
Football is a something we cannot predict right on the time because, you can see some teams in the premier league competition displayed well but they are not doing well in the UEFA champions league competition which are real in some teams if you can carry out your research to know those team. But if the coach is good in the area of impacting potential skills to the players rightly, it make the players look spiritual in the football but the moment the coach begin to miss it in some areas the team will begin to go down.

You see what is happening to a popular team that used huge amount of money to buy players in the summer to withstand some strong teams but they only know how to draw with big teams and lose to small teams.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Gozie51 on December 13, 2023, 04:21:21 PM

What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

I do not agree that teams performance is hereditary. I thought you were trying to talk about family connection to football or hereditary. Like some families have older ones who have liked and played football in their youth age whether international or local even to the parents and grand parents.

So I accept it is hereditary for families and their siblings but for clubs or teams, I doubt that. If a team is not performing and they desire to perform, what they need to do is to wait for transfer season and do their buy of choicest players plus coach. Some years back Manchester city wasn't in the top team list but they have been able to do that in recent years.

The most important thing for team is to have the finance to be able to overhaul their team but if a team lack the finance then it could support your assertion that the team performance is hereditary but with finance, they can change their fortune.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Marvelman on December 13, 2023, 04:21:48 PM
Football's a game that gets the blood pumping, no doubt about it.  The competitive drive to come out on top is a big piece of why we can't get enough.  Sure, talent and skill make a difference at the end of the day.  But I'd say the real bedrock of a squad - its origins and makeup - carry just as much influence

Now, theres always outliers messing with the formula.  Teams can shake off years of letdowns and finally snatch the trophy.  But that's typically because they ripped out the losing mindset and created an expectation to win.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Hirose UK on December 13, 2023, 04:30:41 PM
It is true that strong foundation and spirit of performance in playing greatly influence the quality and achievements of team, but still building strong foundation can be built if there are adequate finances so that you can build perfect squad to create performance that can compete.
Finances are the only major factor in the success of football team. The team that is currently always at the top with various titles is team owned by billionaire who is able to support certain amount of money in buying players and recruiting coaches.
Without adequate finances, football team will only be like blunt spear, they cannot penetrate anything to achieve the goals they want to achieve.
Many lower team are only able to have players who are not that great and in fact they find it difficult to develop, even from the past there has always been no achievement in winning championship title, this is why weak team will be considered to have had poor performance for generations.
But there is difficulty that lower team will have in being able to develop, namely that there is no one who is really capable of pouring in large amounts of money because it is difficult for team like that to make profit and will take long time to develop.
So there will only be team that really already big who always dominates every competition.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: harapan on December 13, 2023, 04:43:16 PM
What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

I don't believe this. I believe a team does well based on planning. Football heritage to me is what that club has offered to football. Take a club like Barcelona for example. They've had legends like Cryuff, Ronaldinho, Pep, Henry and so on to their name. When you're mentioning household names in football you'll call them.
Football heritage is not how club wins the league. If you look, there are teams who have won leagues multiple times that are mid table teams today. If a club bottle's the league, it doesn't mean they don't have football heritage. Arsenal is football heritage but they bottled the league twice; to Leicester and Man City.
Manchester United can't win the league today, but they can be called football heritage.

When a club is very well organized and run, they will win titles or atblesst conoete for it. And a lot of things determine if the club will be well run, finance is a part of it.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: swogerino on December 13, 2023, 04:45:52 PM
Football's a game that gets the blood pumping, no doubt about it.  The competitive drive to come out on top is a big piece of why we can't get enough.  Sure, talent and skill make a difference at the end of the day.  But I'd say the real bedrock of a squad - its origins and makeup - carry just as much influence

Now, theres always outliers messing with the formula.  Teams can shake off years of letdowns and finally snatch the trophy.  But that's typically because they ripped out the losing mindset and created an expectation to win.

I think it depends on the management of a team actually as although I agree it is about heritage it can also be because of management.The management of Manchester United is a good clear example of how to completely ruin a heritage,they insist in keeping the coach which is going from bad to worse and is also intimidating the players somehow by vetoing his decisions and making players who are more fit to be wingers to be playing in midfield.Manchester is a great club with huge history in England for what they have achieved and I think to destroy such team only to flatter a coach who does not deserve it.This was to demonstrate that some times also management impacts the team story while overall it is like you say,most teams have heritage and it is somewhat spiritual.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Bananington on December 13, 2023, 04:59:58 PM
A great soccer club today laboured to become reputable over the years, hence the need for only the best players with as much talent and potential to adapt to the living conditions as well as be disciplined.
The best buy are often those who love and understand soccer because of their parents involvement due to the fact they did so before and have the advantage to introduce their offspring to the game now with the influence they already have on ground.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Nwada001 on December 13, 2023, 05:05:44 PM
This is not about heritage; all I can say is that it's about being devoted, consistent, sacrificing, and doing everything that can make it possible for them to win big.
 
One tree can't make a forest, so one person can't make a difference in an entire team. You can start the change, but it won't be effective if others don't follow. So it's not about previous scores or what they have achieved or have not achieved in the past;

it's about the club being able to accept change and change their pattern. If it's to bring in more effective players, they pave the way for it. You can't be in the same place with no upgrade in skill, and everywhere is necessary. If you want to make a difference, competition is high, so to win, one needs to step up.
 
Although there are people who have so much positive energy in them, which can trigger a team to win to some extent, and there are also people who don't excel when they are in some particular club, all that matters is change, and I don't see anything like hereditary in play here.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Marykeller on December 13, 2023, 05:29:44 PM
What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
OP, I think you are aware that anything hereditary is transmitted through blood, not by the physical characteristics of various individuals assembled to form a team. This means that a team's success or failure cannot be inherited, regardless of how we evaluate their current performance. For example, before Pep Guardiola joined Manchester City, could anyone honestly name Manchester City as one of the greatest clubs in the world? However, given their current performance, you can confidently name them among the best teams in the world, even though they won't be the center of attention in football for years to come.

What I am trying to say in essence is that a team's bad or good performance can not be transmitted(hereditary) from one generation to another because all the players in the team are not linked together by blood rather each of them is brought into the team by signing of the contract to play for the team for a space of time. No connection that a bad team that was bad years back will transmit their bad performance to a present team when they have had a change of coach, management, and players


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Antotena on December 13, 2023, 05:30:38 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

In what context are you coming from with this your facts? From Laliga, English Premier League or Seria A or Ligue1? As I understand of football, teams that are usually in relegation don't come back the next season, they get demoted instantly after the season and any of the team that made the top 3 come back for another chance and this happened repeatedly and for the other teams that haven't top the rank most are low budget clubs that sometimes don't have much money. The top teams are mostly rotated, only few leagues remain the same especially Laliga.

As for Champions League, I think Real Madrid has been the highest winners in numbers but are they consistent about it? No, the last time they win it was last 2 years and even this season, they have been the best in the group stage but who knows what will happen after the stage, no one can tell for sure and the same goes for every league. I don't think your fact is right in this context but perhaps when we had Messi and Ronaldo, your context might be right.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Wiwo on December 13, 2023, 05:45:52 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
One thing I have discovered about footballers is that,  the have high focus and determination to win by all means,  and this determination have also been reflecting on they individual everyday life and sure this can be seen in the ways they deal with most affairs in the life daily and also on the pitch,  so yes I can say that footballing in something that it passion can be inbuilt and on can inherit that passion from the parents and environment too,  so for that,  most of the footballers are first passionate about the game and also for the fam and money involved,  so for that many who plays the game are also the fans of the games and an legally approved recreational activities to play football.

When we talk about football as leagues then we will have to mention the various clubs and their position in the leagues,  most of the time,  many of the team plays match all year through even if the season has ended,  and such for that a lot of the clubs who performed well previously will still be failing behind in current season such as we see with Real Madrid or Manchester City this season in the premier league this season compared to the last few seasons back.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: famososMuertos on December 13, 2023, 06:05:39 PM
Wait... maybe it's not the best adjective to apply to a club, since millions of dollars are needed as an inheritance to have a championship-winning club, it's that simple.

If it were a football heritage, all the ELP teams (e.g.) would have to win the title every year :)


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Frankolala on December 13, 2023, 06:47:19 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
I don't really accept that football is heritage and a club that is used to losing games will always lose even though the players have the zeal of winning. In such club if money is pump into the club and and offload of players and coach is done to get new set of professional players and coach such club will be victorious.

We saw that in Manchester City after the Arab brothers took over the club, we also saw that in Chelsea when Abrahimovic of Russia took over the club and transformed it to make Chelsea among the big four today in England. So with money victory is sure and the weak club will be transformed


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on December 13, 2023, 06:59:42 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

I agree with you about the fact that football is all about a team play, the passion and ideology that drives the team helps the team to perform, even there are instances that a single player most times can inspire teams performance, we can give for example the likes of maradona who's playing pattern helped Argentina to win the world cup, and I can go ahead to give multiple number of players that have affected the team performance singlehandedly. But in winning trophies it has to do with finance, currently in world football, financial muscles of team or clubs can help to bring in superstars that can give that catalystic effect to enable clubs win trophies, so finance has a big role to play too.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: borovichok on December 13, 2023, 07:14:20 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
There's strong spirit behind football, I can't stand in position to capitalize it but I would say football is the medicine for most of the youths you see this present day. Football makes our weekend to be enjoyable and sometimes I wonder if there's no existence of football, how are we going to live up to the expectations of our current lives? Football is a game of passion, that's facts and we're the lovers of football. We watched the game with tense motions and ready to give our all for these clubs especially when our favorite club have a game to play.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: len01 on December 14, 2023, 02:37:22 AM
It seems like there are a lot of answers from some people here that make a lot of sense about this kind of inheritance but what is certain is that it's all just about money and management.
If a team has long had sponsors who provide large payments, a team will certainly continue to be at the top because it can always bring in high quality players who can help the team continue to defend its title in a particular league and not only that, the coach also plays an important role here during This team has a good history and good finances and is certainly able to bring in experienced coaches who can provide strategies to continue to reach the top of the title every season and we take the example of what people say here, Man City or Bayern Munich, which are always favorite teams that can always be there. at the top of the standings, they dominate the league because they have fairly stable finances and can bring in high quality players and experienced coaches and like Real Madrid, which in the past always won the UCL title because they had fairly good finances and always had quality coaches in terms of experience.

however, even though there are many teams that have lost their heritage, they have now lost their glory days, such as in the EPL, Man United, Chelsea, which were known as great teams in the past, but this season are experiencing bad luck and have never won a satisfying title and it's all because they dont have even if the right coach has good finances and can bring in reliable players, the team will still not be perfect without an experienced coach.
so this legacy can only be continued by a team that has good finances and has the right coach.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: pinggoki on December 14, 2023, 03:30:10 AM
Don't be too emotional or spiritual for that matter about what a football club is, they're a business that caters to the demand of the fans to have a team that represents their country, place and state. They just appeal to the emotional side of the consumers so they can get more money out of them, that's the cold hard truth about this football clubs being a part of the community, sure the players and the coaches might be in it for the camaraderie and being a part of the people that support them but the football club behind the scene, they're definitely in it for the money only.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: 8rch7 on December 14, 2023, 03:36:43 AM
I don't really accept that football is heritage and a club that is used to losing games will always lose even though the players have the zeal of winning. In such club if money is pump into the club and and offload of players and coach is done to get new set of professional players and coach such club will be victorious.

We saw that in Manchester City after the Arab brothers took over the club, we also saw that in Chelsea when Abrahimovic of Russia took over the club and transformed it to make Chelsea among the big four today in England. So with money victory is sure and the weak club will be transformed
Right now seems can't acceptable with football have heritage concept due many teams have revolution to modern era and try to get as much investor money, right now football is one place how to earn much profit trough business although not instant way but with acquisition with one football team will earn huge profitable in the future exactly club success won many trophies. Manchester City, Chelsea and PSG become new club revolution success won many trophies after acquisition by rich investor and make other club with a lot of history just not have good progress yet.
No doubt with the much money can bring victory for one club and success win many trophies in the future, I want to old team with full history have acceptable modern era football concept with new ownership have braveness spending much money for signing top players and get potential winning many trophies in the future.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Slow death on December 14, 2023, 09:28:31 PM
nowadays everything has become a business, it is true that even in the past a lot of things were a business, but nowadays it has become much more aggressive, for example in football, despite many clubs having a long history since the many years they were created, Nowadays they need a lot of money to hire the best players to be able to win big tournaments. If a team has a very limited budget, then that team will hardly be able to stay in the league they are in. Of course, having a good coach helps a lot, but we have to understand that even for a team to have a good coach, the team needs to have a lot of money to pay that coach's salary.

The best players in the world don't go to a bankrupt team just because that team is 100 years old, the best players in the world go to a team that has a lot of money, has a good coach and is at the top of its league. Football nowadays is a million-dollar business in which everything that is done aims to maximize profits, the club's history no longer matters, what matters is the present and the future. see cases of teams that have a long history and are unable to win titles, look at the example of Manchester United, they are a team with a long history of existence. Now if you asked a player:

If you choose to go and play for Manchester City or Manchester United, which team would you choose to play for?

I'm sure this player would choose to play for Manchester City


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: michellee on December 14, 2023, 10:06:12 PM
Even though many of those teams failed, they still didn't stop trying to win. There may be some teams that never win, but one day, that team can win. Forming a strong team requires cohesiveness between fellow players. They must be able to overcome their egos and help each other so they can form a strong team.

Now everything has changed. Even though there are still many local players, teams can buy players easily as long as they have money. Many of them form strong teams by buying foreign players. The goal is to win.

And the presence of a coach helps to make the team's desire to win come true. The coach tries to analyze the abilities of each player and place them in their proper positions. With that spirit, the team can have opportunities to win that they never had before.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Casdinyard on December 14, 2023, 10:17:15 PM
For a sec you got me thinking about the metaphorical sense of spiritual here but you quickly brought me off-track with that "some teams are just cursed" (non-verbatim) statement you made lol. I don't think curse is what keeps them from bagging any wins or titles for that matter, and just as with any other sport in the game I think it's all a matter of skill here. On one hand you get powerhouse teams with A-list players that knew the game's very life fibers and have unlocked it with much success. On the other hand we have teams with barely any notable player, a weak lineup, and a system of play that has not worked all their lives, who do you think would win? Plus the fact that no sponsors would want to feature their products on a losing team, which severely hampers the capability of that franchise to pull other powerful players, and you get the current setting of football where the greats keep getting the Ws and the losers are left to clap for their betters.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Asiska02 on December 14, 2023, 10:17:32 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

There is some amount of truth in what you have said but I will not believe in all of that in some other cases and when we view at it at a different perspective than you. We have seen how big teams and small teams play their football and how they effect changes by signing quality players to make the team triumph.  I am still of the conviction that when a team sign a lot of quality players and have a good coach to manage them well, they will play well amidst other big teams involved that are known for always triumphing in those leagues. This issue of hereditary from one players to another in the same team is just the same as signing low quality players year by year which won’t make them deliver well in the field of field every time. This is the only hereditary that I see in all of this.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: letteredhub on December 14, 2023, 10:19:20 PM
Op if you were talking of a single person I will have obliged to your thought of reasoning but talking about a full team is unacceptably true. What evil or wrong foundation could that really be that it should follow them for century and more, that's all diabolical and psych thought in my opinion. Foot today is all about money, when money in invested in a team you see them start doing great let take arsenal for example, when Wenger was with them as manager Arsenal wasn't doing great, as Wenger refused to spend good amount of money in getting the needed players to the club, now in that circumstance would it be said that Arsenal was suffering from any curse? Howbeit now that Artheta is in charge as manager and now invested money in getting a few key players like Declan Rice you see how Arsenal are doing better both in the premiership and champions league.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 14, 2023, 10:23:14 PM
Op if you were talking of a single person I will have obliged to your thought of reasoning but talking about a full team is unacceptably true. What evil or wrong foundation could that really be that it should follow them for century and more, that's all diabolical and psych thought in my opinion. Foot today is all about money, when money in invested in a team you see them start doing great let take arsenal for example, when Wenger was with them as manager Arsenal wasn't doing great, as Wenger refused to spend good amount of money in getting the needed players to the club, now in that circumstance would it be said that Arsenal was suffering from any curse? Howbeit now that Artheta is in charge as manager and now invested money in getting a few key players like Declan Rice you see how Arsenal are doing better both in the premiership and champions league.

i am also not in favour of saying that somehow it is hereditary. but the legacy of a team can greatly affect the mood of their players. if they are known to be one of the best, they will surely aim to maintain their status quo in the sports. they will try to keep such reputation and so they are battling within themselves on how they can keep up with such status.

but in today's situation, whoever has the money can get great players. just a very good example in today's gen is christiano ronaldo who is currently with Al-Nassr FC, a Saudi Pro League club. multi-million dollars have been involved in this transfer along with lucrative benefits.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: kamvreto on December 14, 2023, 10:35:53 PM
Op if you were talking of a single person I will have obliged to your thought of reasoning but talking about a full team is unacceptably true. What evil or wrong foundation could that really be that it should follow them for century and more, that's all diabolical and psych thought in my opinion. Foot today is all about money, when money in invested in a team you see them start doing great let take arsenal for example, when Wenger was with them as manager Arsenal wasn't doing great, as Wenger refused to spend good amount of money in getting the needed players to the club, now in that circumstance would it be said that Arsenal was suffering from any curse? Howbeit now that Artheta is in charge as manager and now invested money in getting a few key players like Declan Rice you see how Arsenal are doing better both in the premiership and champions league.

i am also not in favour of saying that somehow it is hereditary. but the legacy of a team can greatly affect the mood of their players. if they are known to be one of the best, they will surely aim to maintain their status quo in the sports. they will try to keep such reputation and so they are battling within themselves on how they can keep up with such status.

To maintain its status as the best club, you must be prepared to look for superior seeds who will continue the team's success, because it is not easy to get them, there must be a lot of selection that must be done. And now when a club has a lot of money it is very easy to do, just by buying the best players and collecting them then all problems are solved. But here, the role of a coach to bring in the best players who come from within the club no longer exists, even though the best players who develop from within the club will be more promising.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: johnsaributua on December 14, 2023, 10:58:30 PM
Mentally inheriting a throne can happen, it is still the performance that may be different, the manager should also play an important role. Indeed, funding during the transfer market is also a supporting option, many clubs can add better performance, it is not enough to just stay in the same game, I agree that in one season it will be different both the course of the match, the potential that may turn around or injuries that cannot be predicted still the manager must anticipate. inheritance is only the spirit because different players have different execution in formation, I think the space between the lines may be corrected or can be inherited too, but no one knows when the opponent makes changes in pressing due to upgrading players either skills or new players every season.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: TelolettOm on December 14, 2023, 11:15:55 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary.
It won't be that easy to pass on titles and history to be passed down from generation to generation. We have seen how several big teams used to be giant football clubs and were unbeatable, but as generations passed, this changed and actually became worse today. A real example is Man United. We are sometimes still in the euphoria of past glory, but we sometimes forget the condition of the team at the moment. We certainly always demand that the club be even more successful and be as strong as when they were successful in the past, but of course, this will not be the same. Indeed, some big clubs are still like this, as strong as ever, but it cannot be denied that there will be periods of ups and downs for these clubs.

because, football is not just about repeating history. It takes a lot of things and efforts to unite and consistently support the club so that it can be like its former glory days. because, basically, what really influences the club is not only the enthusiasm and motivation of those who used to be a giant club, but also the club's current capabilities, which include the strength and composition of the squad of players, as well as the coach's ability to manage the players and optimize them. maximally. This is what is sometimes quite difficult to do. Sometimes, a club has a lot of good players but the coach has not been able to optimize them so the results will not be as good, or vice versa. That's why there needs to be cooperation between the two, to create a strong squad strength, coupled with high motivation and good consistency throughout.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Belarge on December 14, 2023, 11:17:11 PM
Don't be too emotional or spiritual for that matter about what a football club is, they're a business that caters to the demand of the fans to have a team that represents their country, place and state. They just appeal to the emotional side of the consumers so they can get more money out of them, that's the cold hard truth about this football clubs being a part of the community, sure the players and the coaches might be in it for the camaraderie and being a part of the people that support them but the football club behind the scene, they're definitely in it for the money only.
Heritage are for the football lovers, our love for football is weigh beyond what I can imagine, I can't afford to missed any important match providing I'm not choked up with tasks from my work place. Money does matter in the phase, everyone will do anything to ensure they're able to maintain the momentum in the space and earns quite easy money on their own paths. Football is sports and it's live and happening before our very own eyes. There's nothing like magic, we watch the top-flight actions from clubs and the players are the main cause behind the development of the players.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: lionheart78 on December 14, 2023, 11:25:08 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
In a competition, a team must be built with strong foundation in order to compete against other team.  Since football is a team play game, there should be a perfect blend of skills.  There should be the main, the supporting, and the decoy.  The team performance is the responsibility of the team coach since they are the ones scouting and reviewing new talents for the team.  They are also the ones providing formations and strategy.

The only reason why a team loses in games is because the team is not balanced and the coach is more probably incompetent in scouting or producing new talents for the team.  The spriit is surely passed down, but losses are not hereditary.  It all depends on the performance of the team against their opponent and it goes down to the team coaches and management.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Hispo on December 14, 2023, 11:26:25 PM
Right, but where does passion come from anyways?
If I had to guess, I would say it is a mixture of both the engagement the fans have with the club/team and also the collection of cups and victories the club has managed to accumulate during it's existence. It is easier for a time to become a very recognized one worldwide and also perform very well if they have a trajectory and a reputation to defend in front of their people and all those who supporte them during each match.
On one hand, that makes victories so memorable and also the defeats (it comes to mind the humiliation Brazil suffered back during the World Cup of 2014 when Germany scored 7 to them).
On the other hand, the a team is considered to be irrelevant, does not have an story to defent and their people do not engage with them as much, then there is always pesimism on what there will be ahead for the team. It is something we experienced here in Venezuela, our team as always irrelevant and under-performed, untill not long ago when it started to seem to change direction, allowing new players to join. Our heritage is bad, let us see if we can build the foundations for s different future.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: uneng on December 14, 2023, 11:38:07 PM
I agree soccer is inherited in the sense a currently successful campaign will bring fruits ($$$) for the club, which will be used to invest in more skilled players, coach and management/technical team, marketing campaigns and every other resources they have under their disposal to make the team more recognized among the public. Consequently, all these actions will make the team stronger, more reputable and popular for the next generations, if they manage to do this in a frequent basis, year after year. Then, we have the called heritage.

My point is, without money, there isn't heritage, because this world revolves around money, always following its flux. So, changing the title of the thread a little bit, I would say football/soccer heritage is somehow financial, because it's through money and wealth the heritage from soccer clubs are passed from generation to generation. If you don't have this basic element, there isn't anything to pass ahead, besides old stories of great deeds, which unfortunatelly remain only in the few hearts of those who put values despised by the society above material things.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: lombok on December 14, 2023, 11:43:46 PM
Sponsorship and funding, followed by large finances, can be a key factor in a club. Reputation will increase as time goes by, from what they have it will certainly be very easy to gather great talents from footballers from remote areas who may have pro skills. Having good and adequate training facilities, having coaches and experts in their fields to train the players, of course this will be possible because of the money the club has or help from sponsors.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: alani123 on December 14, 2023, 11:57:22 PM
Many people would play from a very young age to their local club, and growing up would see people helping their local club be built up from the ground up and in many cases become popular.

So the base of football as a working class sport, growing a club with little contributions for many people is what placed it close to everyone's hearts in many places. However I think that passion is kind of wearing off a little now that big capital investors are getting involved and making everything more commercialized for the big leagues. We'll see in the following decades what happens but me personally I am already a little sick with 1st leagues and their shenanigans. I'd much rather watch my team from my village play amateur game and spend my money there, knowing it would contribute to actually local people in a big way instead of counting as profit stats in a big foreign investor's pockets.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Captain Corporate on December 15, 2023, 12:30:20 AM
I disagree with some others and I too agree with PSG and City examples as the biggest ones. Manchester City was a nobody team, they were a mockery, they were nobodies, the whole city of Manchester were filled with United fans, and you looked at City fans as weird people, they were very few and very rare, and not many liked them. Then one day, some rich person bought it, and put great players in it and now they are one of the best teams ever in that league, they are breaking records that are decades long. Same with PSG, they were not nobodies as much as City, but the were not good at all, Lyon ruled the entire Ligue 1, then some rich person bought it and now PSG wins every year and Lyon tries to survive and not get relegated. Heritage doesn't matter as much as money does, football is now a money thing, the richer you are the more success you will get, irregardless of your past.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on December 15, 2023, 12:42:06 AM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

As much as your point might not be far from reality, I also believe it has to do with the coach and the management system.

A skillful coach has much impact on a team irrespective of what the history must have been. Another factor will be the mindset of the players and the degree of big picture they have in terms of winning.
If a team has a mentality of winning, its rare for them to be loosing matches, they might start out loosing but gradually, they'll start winning.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: alegotardo on December 15, 2023, 01:49:51 AM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

I once believed that, because at least in my country (Brazil) there was a time when football players loved their favorite team... they graduated from youth teams, became professionals and won titles for that team until the moment when they retired.

However, currently this no longer exists... players change teams and countries simply for money or better future conditions, they are no longer worried about which team they are playing for.
We can say the same thing about club directors, once this was passed down for generations between the same family or close community, but nowadays it is normal to see teams being sold to anyone willing to pay a lot of money.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: 8rch7 on December 15, 2023, 09:17:04 AM
Sponsorship and funding, followed by large finances, can be a key factor in a club. Reputation will increase as time goes by, from what they have it will certainly be very easy to gather great talents from footballers from remote areas who may have pro skills. Having good and adequate training facilities, having coaches and experts in their fields to train the players, of course this will be possible because of the money the club has or help from sponsors.
Reputation and history of one team will increase slowly depend have any teams get large financial after acquisition by richest investor, best football teams need balance with their income and outcome trough sponsorship and funding how to make manager easily can sign many top player every window transfer opening. Some time have huge money will build up good training facilities and help their youth players can promote to senior teams as club investment in the future, when players from academy has impressive performance their values will suddenly increasing up and give much profitable for club how to get stable financial condition.

All european teams has good training facilities and many of them invested much money with their infrastructure as their investment way in the future how to get top youth player from academy promoting.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: irhact on December 15, 2023, 09:26:42 AM
Football indeed is a game of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

Football has gone beyond passion, its now mostly about who has the highest money to finance the affairs of their club. Money isn't working for some clubs as they didn't spend the money wisely but those who have the right team and money will win in football. What makes teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid some of the most successful clubs in the world is as a result of the money they had access to, with money they could sign the best talents.

Since Barcelona has been bankrupt, they have dropped in form and since Manchester city got acquired by the Saudis they have been doing very well in the Premier League. If your club don't have money to compete with the big clubs in the transfer markets, they won't be able the get good talents into the club and the home grown players won't be able to compete with other big clubs for the title. Football heritage has a role to play but not as much as money now do.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Reid on December 15, 2023, 09:30:07 AM
This is Sports Discussion but I don't think we have such a thing in the forum. This has nothing to do with gambling at all.

You are right though. Football has grown today and many fans are watching it. I am not sure about the hereditary thing but I think it's more of a tradition thing. But there's a sad truth about football too, some countries cannot join in because they are not supported by their government and it's difficult to climb the top level if there's no field to play.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: EluguHcman on December 15, 2023, 10:43:30 AM
Football indeed is a game of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss.
It is not only football that is considered a game of passion to winning but all sorts of games that is segmented to teaming as oppositions during a tournament or competitions that a winning and a loosing is expected at a final round. Although football is a unique nature of game also considered as a most famous sports which has optimized the interest of its audiences with the highest capacities of fans who are emotionally controlled by the winning interests of their supporting teams or clubs.

I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come.
I agree with you that the root and foundation of a football matters because football is basically and strictly a game of formations and strategical analysis on how to bypass the opposite teams with a mapped out algorithm which fundamentally to engage each of the players connectively with a co. team player so as to achieve their goals to victimize their oppositions in the football pitch.
Most important resources for victorious endivoirs of the football  depends on the relationships between the team coach and the players.
If the coach is sentimental with the players then the players could decide to give an unfair play basically considering to term the coach incapable to profer the team/Club with better formations to gain winning victory so the coach is literally expected to form a friendly relationship with the players so as to eradicate the entire team with a basic portfolio of oneness one victory.

What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
No I don't believe football is hereditary as said @ OP. A football team could maintain a winning roles in a period of time but if not update to reforming its team then an aside considered a lossed team is liable to take that chances to restrategise its strategies in other to distabilize your own strategies which gained you victory formally.
It is important to restrategizing and reforming on each tournaments or competitions so as to also to distabilize your oppositions expectations.

This is to say that you could be planning some kind of reliable formations While the oppositions formations is going stronger than what you expected.
Football is of no form of heredity instead a strong hood of a club or team can maintain a winning to a certain periods of time else they should have the winning portfolio held back to back which I can bet that there had  been no football team or club that has hold a particular league champion on captive.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: letteredhub on December 15, 2023, 05:51:57 PM
Op if you were talking of a single person I will have obliged to your thought of reasoning but talking about a full team is unacceptably true. What evil or wrong foundation could that really be that it should follow them for century and more, that's all diabolical and psych thought in my opinion. Foot today is all about money, when money in invested in a team you see them start doing great let take arsenal for example, when Wenger was with them as manager Arsenal wasn't doing great, as Wenger refused to spend good amount of money in getting the needed players to the club, now in that circumstance would it be said that Arsenal was suffering from any curse? Howbeit now that Artheta is in charge as manager and now invested money in getting a few key players like Declan Rice you see how Arsenal are doing better both in the premiership and champions league.

i am also not in favour of saying that somehow it is hereditary. but the legacy of a team can greatly affect the mood of their players. if they are known to be one of the best, they will surely aim to maintain their status quo in the sports. they will try to keep such reputation and so they are battling within themselves on how they can keep up with such status.
That one is a common thing that any club must be expected to do. No team want to move from grace to grass so they have to keep and maintain the legacy by performing fine to write their own history on the legacy of the team's past legends if possible do even better than they did. But saying a team known for its bad performance for decades since it's inception I doubt new players coming into the club will want or be happy to keep such legacy, they can play better to change the team's history as it was known. Sometimes a new owner can come in and change everything about the team by signing quality players and with time that team be doing great in competition's winning trophies like never before. Roman Abramovich the former owner of Chelsea is a simple example here when he got into Chelsea everything about the club changed for good.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: CryptSafe on December 15, 2023, 07:26:15 PM
OP I think we should look into this aspect of football investment and sponsorship as a factor too because I really do not see anything spirituality in it. If a club have good and willing investors to bankroll their activities tell me why would they not go get good players. Money is also involved when it comes to maintenance and sustenance of clubs and players. There is no form of spirituality involved but rather commitment and development. Players are always ready to go for the highest bidder when it comes to football business and this counts because they put in their efforts, skills together with their passion for their work to get the club at the peak.

If you think that this your postulations are very much correct I will implore you to give us instances and clubs this occurrences took place to vindicate your claims.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Justbillywitt on December 15, 2023, 07:48:25 PM
OP I think we should look into this aspect of football investment and sponsorship as a factor too because I really do not see anything spirituality in it. If a club have good and willing investors to bankroll their activities tell me why would they not go get good players. Money is also involved when it comes to maintenance and sustenance of clubs and players. There is no form of spirituality involved but rather commitment and development. Players are always ready to go for the highest bidder when it comes to football business and this counts because they put in their efforts, skills together with their passion for their work to get the club at the peak.

If you think that this your postulations are very much correct I will implore you to give us instances and clubs this occurrences took place to vindicate your claims.
Yes I agree with you, there is nothing spiritual in football. Fine it's a game of passion, but also a business. Every football club in a league has the potential of winning the league title if they have the right investors, who are committed to the club and are to build world class facilities and approach the right players and a world class coach why won't they win the league?  Success is a deliberate and not by accident.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: arimamib on December 15, 2023, 09:34:23 PM
Football indeed is a game of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss.
It is not only football that is considered a game of passion to winning but all sorts of games that is segmented to teaming as oppositions during a tournament or competitions that a winning and a loosing is expected at a final round. Although football is a unique nature of game also considered as a most famous sports which has optimized the interest of its audiences with the highest capacities of fans who are emotionally controlled by the winning interests of their supporting teams or clubs.
Many sports, not just football, indeed raise emotions and foster a sense of competition during tournaments and competitions. The appearing of opposing teams, the anticipation of a final outcome, and the highs and lows of winning and losing are elements shared by a multitude of sports. The broad spectrum of games instills passion and Football has carved a special place in the hearts of fans worldwide, It is boasting an unparalleled fanbase. The emotional investment of fans, who are deeply connected to the success of their favorite teams or clubs, contributes to the uniqueness of football.

The global appeal and cultural significance of football make it a powerful medium that transcends borders and brings people together. The emotional rollercoaster experienced by fans, from the thrill of win to the disappointment of defeat, showcases the profound impact that football can have on people and communities. It paints a broader picture of the shared human experience in the world of sports.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Belarge on December 15, 2023, 10:10:19 PM
Yes I agree with you, there is nothing spiritual in football. Fine it's a game of passion, but also a business. Every football club in a league has the potential of winning the league title if they have the right investors, who are committed to the club and are to build world class facilities and approach the right players and a world class coach why won't they win the league?  Success is a deliberate and not by accident.
Football is a game of passion, everyone have their own club they tender their supports, and everyone have a choice to choose the club they like to partner with. Sometimes I wonder how this life will be without football. Succeeding in football, a club needs to have the basic necessities, more like promising players and also an experienced coach that can take the club's level to another. Football clubs exist for growth, they have top investors and partners that shared the club's expenditures and takes active part in the development of the club.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 15, 2023, 11:05:32 PM
Well I can say that it is a very good way of how you see Fútbol , I have always seen it that way because football is the King of sport , it is the sport that always makes you feel very good even though we practice it, in the teams. famous soccer players, there is a Saying that when you get used to playing and winning, you should always win , because it is something that will Always not make you feel good, and as long as that winning spirit is maintained, the level of the team will always It will be very high, because they know that it is a legacy , a Legacy that they can never let fall, under any type of circumstance, and now even though the Circumstances in life are Different , it is very obvious that things when they are not quite simple like playing and having fun you have to be Accompanied by gnar, for everything I always say, you Should do what you like most , Footballers have the most beautiful job in the World, they have big Salaries , they Have Great Things to do and they will always do their best for having more victories.

The fans are something that a team can always have, make them show it so that they have a better sense of Playing , of doing things so that they can please the fans , and something simple , but the people, the players, do it with all their Effort, passionate world can't make a difference, it's something simple , as we play on any team, we as amateurs, we do it because we love it, because in the end if there are no fights, there will be new friends, That's the great thing about football, in the big teams around the world things are like that, so we have to pay attention to everything that a particular team can give us, the joys it gives us , for Example I am a fan of Real Madrid, and it is a complete team, winner, whatever it may be, even if it Loses, one supports it , the Local team of our Land , also , When the National team of our Country plays, it is as if we Wanted to Play because we Believe we Can do it Plus, all that is what you should see


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Heartilly on December 15, 2023, 11:53:40 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

I would say the same goes on other sports and leagues. It's not hereditary in general as sports are just invented and not naturally occur, but rather these athletes were early involved in that sport in their youth that's why while growing up, they used to know everything about that sport.

I understand your point where a certain losing team remains consistently loser even counting for several years or decades. It's like these bad luck is being passed by next generation and will remain there for long. But in reality, it's impossible that the losing spirit will not be broke soon. Someday, a good team will rise from that losing team and will change the bad image into a good one.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Slow death on December 16, 2023, 07:03:49 PM
During this period of December when many people in my country are on vacation from school and work, when I go out on the streets I see many people playing football, children and young people and adults are playing football on the roads and on the football fields, It's something very beautiful to see, because they sometimes play on the roads. but this shows how football is the most popular sport in the world and therefore older teams have bigger fans and consequently have a greater number of fans who make donations to the team and who also fill the team's football stadium. So these teams that have been around for over 50 years have a long history

but the fact that a team has been around for many years does not mean that that same team will be successful, it does not mean that that team will constantly win titles, and this can currently be seen more easily when looking at the performance and achievements that teams that were bought by the rich how are they doing. Nowadays football has become more competitive to the point where teams are forced to invest a lot of money if they want to achieve great things, and teams that don't have money cannot achieve great things, unfortunately money has become more important in the world of sport. things like inheritance you're talking about don't work anymore


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: tygeade on December 16, 2023, 07:14:49 PM
Football has gone beyond passion, its now mostly about who has the highest money to finance the affairs of their club. Money isn't working for some clubs as they didn't spend the money wisely but those who have the right team and money will win in football. What makes teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid some of the most successful clubs in the world is as a result of the money they had access to, with money they could sign the best talents.

Since Barcelona has been bankrupt, they have dropped in form and since Manchester city got acquired by the Saudis they have been doing very well in the Premier League. If your club don't have money to compete with the big clubs in the transfer markets, they won't be able the get good talents into the club and the home grown players won't be able to compete with other big clubs for the title. Football heritage has a role to play but not as much as money now do.
Unfortunately that's true, and we can still call it "passion" because all those rich people who buy clubs and spend hundreds of millions for the club are doing it because they want to make sure that their team does great, and that's a sort of passion as well.

I like to give example of Wrexham, the movie star Ryan Reynolds and the tv star Rob Mcellheney (not sure how it's spelled) bought that club, and it's true that they have spent some good chunk of money to bring them back to football pyramid, that's good and great, and lovely to see. Could you say that Ryan Reynolds have absolutely no connection to Wrexham? I mean feels like we are talking about a situation that doesn't look all that fine to me, they are very very much invested in that team not just by money, but their passion as well.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Stepstowealth on December 16, 2023, 07:25:32 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
Are you referring to Arsenal? ;D

I think this is just a myth, there are teams that have won the league from nowhere, and there are others that keep doing well even when new players join them, and that is because of the high standard that has already been set in the club. If any small team will do well, the standard of the team needs to be raised, either by a new manager who has a standard and demands more from the players, or an influential player with high standard who joins the team and influences other players to raise their standards.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on December 16, 2023, 07:34:54 PM
Yes I agree with you, there is nothing spiritual in football. Fine it's a game of passion, but also a business. Every football club in a league has the potential of winning the league title if they have the right investors, who are committed to the club and are to build world class facilities and approach the right players and a world class coach why won't they win the league?  Success is a deliberate and not by accident.
Football is a game of passion, everyone have their own club they tender their supports, and everyone have a choice to choose the club they like to partner with. Sometimes I wonder how this life will be without football. Succeeding in football, a club needs to have the basic necessities, more like promising players and also an experienced coach that can take the club's level to another. Football clubs exist for growth, they have top investors and partners that shared the club's expenditures and takes active part in the development of the club.

Football could be described as the whole world entire heritage but not really every individual heritage because we can choose to have passion for another kind of sports instead of football, while some don't have to inherit football before they create passion for it, we all have what we want and knows how to go about it no matter the way it appears to us, we will still remain with our choice because we are satisfied with how it being played.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Hirose UK on December 17, 2023, 08:36:28 AM
Football indeed is a game of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss.
It is not only football that is considered a game of passion to winning but all sorts of games that is segmented to teaming as oppositions during a tournament or competitions that a winning and a loosing is expected at a final round. Although football is a unique nature of game also considered as a most famous sports which has optimized the interest of its audiences with the highest capacities of fans who are emotionally controlled by the winning interests of their supporting teams or clubs.
Many sports, not just football, indeed raise emotions and foster a sense of competition during tournaments and competitions. The appearing of opposing teams, the anticipation of a final outcome, and the highs and lows of winning and losing are elements shared by a multitude of sports. The broad spectrum of games instills passion and Football has carved a special place in the hearts of fans worldwide, It is boasting an unparalleled fanbase. The emotional investment of fans, who are deeply connected to the success of their favorite teams or clubs, contributes to the uniqueness of football.

The global appeal and cultural significance of football make it a powerful medium that transcends borders and brings people together. The emotional rollercoaster experienced by fans, from the thrill of win to the disappointment of defeat, showcases the profound impact that football can have on people and communities. It paints a broader picture of the shared human experience in the world of sports.
But so far only football has created great sentiment among the public and this happens not only because of fans of the team that is the favorite to win certain competitions but also because of the love of idol players.
And football is the only sport that is really very popular, not only in big competitions but also in small competitions in every region it has also given quite sensation to people from all walks of life.
But unfortunately the development of football can be very rapid only in few countries or it could be said that not all countries have made significant progress in the development of their leagues and national teams.
Until now, development throughout the world is still somewhat stagnant or only certain countries that have dominated from the start can have good development for the league they own or for the national team.
For long time, what has been most striking is the development of Saudi football, but this is natural because there is very large turnover of money provided by the team owners.

The only reason is that they or everyone who loves football really wants to see their proud team win and win the title.
They want to see their idol players lift the championship trophy in the competition they are participating in.
This is why the global fascination with football is quite significant.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Asiska02 on December 17, 2023, 09:13:34 AM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

Your theory about football teams is right but not in all aspects as you’ve made it look. Let’s take premier league for example; we have seen big teams in the past that have relegated for long and till date, they can get back from relegation and they keep going down and down the relegation ladder. Some teams don’t stay long in the relegations zone even when they relegated because of the experience they gathered in the premier which other teams can’t resist when they play with them in the relegated league games below premier leagues.

What I feel is the case of big teams in the past that keep going down the relegation ladder or can’t make it back to the premier league is because of their lack of good sponsorships, and if there are no good sponsorships, you can’t buy good players that can make the team thrive in the most challenging leagues. Teams that are coming up today and those that are still consistent in the league are well managed and sponsored by big companies which has giving them an opportunity to strive in the competitions they participate in.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2023, 08:26:03 AM
You are a bad gambler if you believe that a team will always win, even if the club has the best player simply because they have the money to buy all best players, it still doesn't change the fact that they can lose matches too, it's been proven right every time, a club can take lead for long but when the finals is close they will start losing.

I will advice to place your bets wisely, just because a club has the best teams doesn't guarantee that you will make money betting on them, this move have cost many a lot of money, don't do the same mistake they accomplished.

Always gamble with what you are ready to lose, there is no guarantee in any gambling games, or sports, even if they are the best we are humans, they will not always perform the best always.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Weawant on December 20, 2023, 02:22:50 PM
Football indeed is a game of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
In as much as this point of yours isn't looking true in it's complete sense I will take it with a pinch of salt, by this I mean I agree to your perspective with some resentments, some teams have been unable to win league title in a long while not because of any spiritual or hereditary traits rather obviously every teams management and strategy is very key to getting them results.

There have been cases of teams performing so badly over the years and after the changes of management and other necessary strategies were put in place, they were transformed into a very formidable force, a typical example can be seen in the bundesliga were Leverkusen who were always seen as an average team today are now one of the most formidable Force in the bundesliga and they're others in other leagues aswell, basically it mainly management and strategy, this is my own point of view actually.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: BigBos on December 20, 2023, 02:29:25 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
This situation is not too strange because after all, we have also seen many clubs that have been successful from the beginning and it has been hereditary for foundation problems, for example, such as Madrid, which has always been very strong from them in the past few decades until now, which is precisely with their strong initial foundation today they have everything starting from finance, popularity and of course experience and a myriad of talented players that they always manage to collect every season.

But for now apart from the foundation of course money can also make its own flow because we know there are some clubs that don't really have a strong foundation at first but when the money comes in they get better.
Let's say right now we have a few clubs like that and the biggest ones right now are probably Manchester City, PSG and most recently Newcastle.
Although we know Newcastle were once a big club but their foundations in terms of finance were not very good and now when supported by Arab investors where oil money is pouring in, they can now be said to be back on track.
Indirectly the legacy factor must also be supported by good finances so that they can synchronize with each other and support each other to make the club continue to triumph.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Antotena on December 20, 2023, 02:31:21 PM
You are a bad gambler if you believe that a team will always win, even if the club has the best player simply because they have the money to buy all best players, it still doesn't change the fact that they can lose matches too, it's been proven right every time, a club can take lead for long but when the finals is close they will start losing.

There is nothing wrong in been confident in a team specifically if you are fan, I have seen people blind arguably because of their love for the club which is fine, we are all entitled to our opinion when it comes to football but your loss is yours to bear with anything that comes after. For gambling, I don't trust any team but I judge my expectations on what they can bring to the table with their performance.

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I will advice to place your bets wisely, just because a club has the best teams doesn't guarantee that you will make money betting on them, this move have cost many a lot of money, don't do the same mistake they accomplished.

Always gamble with what you are ready to lose, there is no guarantee in any gambling games, or sports, even if they are the best we are humans, they will not always perform the best always.

Team doesn't speak for the a good bets, it is what the players are going to do on the field is what you should be aiming at, if they are capable of doing good or doing bad. In fact, if a team is having low performance, you can still bet on them, that is why gambling is unique. You can decide to bet on more yellow card if there is a chance that they have rough players on the field, you can bet no goals on both teams if the players are not up to standard to deliver the kind of expectations you have in mind.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: danherbias07 on December 20, 2023, 02:52:54 PM
Maybe they did pass the spirit but not the talent. That's an individual skill and teams are composed of players, there are players who are really good at one sport. Geniuses. Team management can be good with their passion but it doesn't mean they can also be winners. I've seen players wasted in one team and it's not just because he is not good but management can also make mistakes at pairing players or how they will bring out the A game of a star.

Football ain't about being hereditary but also about how it is funded. You cannot get great players if you don't have the money because let's be real, players will go looking for another team if they don't find a good salary in one team. It's all about sponsorships and investing too, players require an environment where they will both grow and can be financially stable too.
Look at other sports, not just football. Millions of dollars are wasted for entertainment just because they want to keep a player or to prevent him from having an idea to be traded. Entertainers have higher salaries now than doctors and teachers.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 24, 2023, 02:56:10 AM
I have always liked to talk about football because I consider it to be my Passion for Everything. When I was very young I Always wanted to be a player for my national team, I even told myself that I was going to take the Team very far, but in In view of many things, I didn't get involved in soccer and I had to learn on the Street , of course I was already a little old, and the language was not the same, there were people that started when I was 4 years Old and even though I had that talent because they didn't put them in, something that is happening with my son and he also wants the same, so I think that's what one calls having heart, well I know that in Europe things are quite strong , I Could say that when it comes to to do things better for the sport in this case they are very good at playing soccer, I have experience playing with German friends, and wow the Truth is they are very nice, especially running, also since they are so tall , they usually pick up speed very Quickly and are very strong, really to play against them, as an athlete you Must be very strong.

Now, since I have had the opportunity to play with them, also with the Brazilians , and they are Very very good, because apart from the fact that they run a lot, they have a very good technique, apart from that I think that with samba they play better , because there are many things that They make movements similar to the Samba dance and it is something that turns out to be difficult to read, so my respects to the Brazilians and their way of Playing is very cool, this is really very exciting, compared to other styles of dancing. game, for example the Colombian, the Colombian if you are not careful or if you are too strong, they break your leg easily, just like that, they play very hard and like starting, I don't know, I think they also do it when they are foreigners who play Against them, they play very hard, so you have to be careful , I think each country plays in its own way and it is Exciting.



Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Blitzboy on December 24, 2023, 06:57:15 AM
I have always liked to talk about football because I consider it to be my Passion for Everything. When I was very young I Always wanted to be a player for my national team, I even told myself that I was going to take the Team very far, but in In view of many things, I didn't get involved in soccer and I had to learn on the Street , of course I was already a little old, and the language was not the same, there were people that started when I was 4 years Old and even though I had that talent because they didn't put them in, something that is happening with my son and he also wants the same, so I think that's what one calls having heart, well I know that in Europe things are quite strong , I Could say that when it comes to to do things better for the sport in this case they are very good at playing soccer, I have experience playing with German friends, and wow the Truth is they are very nice, especially running, also since they are so tall , they usually pick up speed very Quickly and are very strong, really to play against them, as an athlete you Must be very strong.

Now, since I have had the opportunity to play with them, also with the Brazilians , and they are Very very good, because apart from the fact that they run a lot, they have a very good technique, apart from that I think that with samba they play better , because there are many things that They make movements similar to the Samba dance and it is something that turns out to be difficult to read, so my respects to the Brazilians and their way of Playing is very cool, this is really very exciting, compared to other styles of dancing. game, for example the Colombian, the Colombian if you are not careful or if you are too strong, they break your leg easily, just like that, they play very hard and like starting, I don't know, I think they also do it when they are foreigners who play Against them, they play very hard, so you have to be careful , I think each country plays in its own way and it is Exciting.


Your football story shows the sport's worldwide charm. The Germans, Brazilians, and Colombians show how football reflects cultural identities. Yes, each nation's pitch has its own taste, reflecting cultural dynamics.

Brazilian play is dance-like, reflecting their rich culture. It contrasts with the Germans' disciplined, strength-based approach, which I was challenged but enjoyed playing against. Contrasting styles show football's diversity.

Your son will benefit from these tips. Let him absorb various styles and find his own. In my experience, understanding football's culture helps improve one's game. You must understand the sport's soul and rhythm, which differs so beautifully around the world, as well as physical prowess.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 24, 2023, 07:37:13 AM
In building a football team, it must have a strong foundation. In this case, a team must have players who support each other. Each player must have the same goal of making their team develop better and be able to win the league and become the best among the other teams. If the team wants to become the best team, each team must be able to share enthusiasm and help each other improve each player's abilities. This foundation must continue to be trained by each player and with direction from the coach, they can undergo training to support each other. Playing in a team is not just about highlighting the abilities of one or two players, but it is about cooperation between the players in the team so that they can play together and achieve victory.

The players who are members of one team must be able to put aside their egos to unite the vision and mission conveyed by the coach to win. If they can win, they will all gain a proud reputation and achievements for themselves and the people around them.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Promocodeudo on December 24, 2023, 08:24:15 AM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

OP, if you narrate like a player children may grow to embrace football as their father then such is possible but if you are talking about the entire team I don't agree to it, when misfortune is beffaling a football team that was going great earlier, if you look closely you will made to understand that such may be going through internal crises, the crises might be occurring between the manager and the players, this affect clubs so much, because at this time the team is no more comfortable and these player a are not ready to listen to the instructions coming from their manger, another factor is when players are been used in a wing that they are fit in, when this happens you will not flop in the entire team, this is my take on this.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Negotiation on December 24, 2023, 08:38:00 AM
Football is a fun game have fun while playing and enjoy your practice football takes time to master be patient and keep practicing. The game of football is usually based on a team if the teams are not strong then it is difficult to strengthen the base. In the game there will be losses and wins without creating a bad attitude we have to move forward encouraging each other to win the next match. Regular practice is one of the most important factors in developing soccer skills. You can practice with a friend or family member or join a football club by taking training from a coach you can learn about different aspects of playing football. Watching professional football games will help you learn about different tricks and tips for playing football.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Fortify on December 24, 2023, 08:47:21 AM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

I'm not sure it's anything to do with a "strong foundation" or any of the other things you list. There are football players and fans in every city and town, many decades or even centuries ago there was so much support for the game that they ended up coming together in order to make a local club. Men simply wanted to play their favorite sport and naturally that will create competition between different areas. You can see by the ebb and flow of teams out of the different leagues that it is more influenced by money available to buy the best players than anything else. That's arguably how Man City have been able to reach the top, because they are owned by some of the richest people in the world with a lot of spending power.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Hirose UK on December 26, 2023, 02:07:16 PM
Football is a fun game have fun while playing and enjoy your practice football takes time to master be patient and keep practicing. The game of football is usually based on a team if the teams are not strong then it is difficult to strengthen the base. In the game there will be losses and wins without creating a bad attitude we have to move forward encouraging each other to win the next match. Regular practice is one of the most important factors in developing soccer skills. You can practice with a friend or family member or join a football club by taking training from a coach you can learn about different aspects of playing football. Watching professional football games will help you learn about different tricks and tips for playing football.
What you say may seem easy to do and can develop the quality of achievement and skills of football player.
Moreover, in the context of this thread, what the OP is conveying is not about how to become great football player but about the belief that the football team has inherited every failure that occurs.
In the game of football, when there is only one great player and the other 10 players do not develop to the point of having good playing qualities, it will be the same and it is difficult for them for football team to develop and achieve proud achievements.
I agree that football is game that really relies on the cooperation of all the players in the team, but if team has failed for long time and is only lower class team then it will always remain the same.
Except for those team that already have experience in competing in the big league and are famous, there may always be hope that they can perform optimally again in the big league.
Just look, there are quite lot of team experiencing problem like this and there is clear evidence that we can see clearly, namely that every league is only filled with the same team every season.
When there is shift because relegation will also return, only a few of these team will have chance.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: taufik123 on December 26, 2023, 02:29:05 PM
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I've seen players wasted in one team and it's not just because he is not good but management can also make mistakes at pairing players or how they will bring out the A game of a star.
It's also about the chemistry of the players at the club and the players, if a star player is wrong in choosing the club then it will be a setback for him.
Remember how Ronaldo got into Juventus and his performance dropped greatly and many even said that Ronaldo should not be at Juventus.
Juventus is not a suitable place for Ronaldo, and some even say Ronaldo is just a burden on the club.

Football ain't about being hereditary but also about how it is funded. You cannot get great players if you don't have the money because let's be real, players will go looking for another team if they don't find a good salary in one team. It's all about sponsorships and investing too, players require an environment where they will both grow and can be financially stable too.
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Funding comes first, the Heritage and its spirituality are only as a complement and encouragement that gives a better Aura.
But if a club does not have sufficient funds and even minimal sponsorship, they will not be successful in buying star players.

Look at how Al-Nassr FC was able to provide a salary of 200 million Euros for Ronaldo, this is because they have strong funding and can buy any star player easily and Club Al-Nassr is now quite famous in the Arab League and is number one.
Neymar even followed in Ronaldo's footsteps by joining Al-Hilal.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Plaguedeath on December 26, 2023, 03:06:27 PM
Whenever I hear football heritage, this is the person that I always remembered.

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Football heritage is real, take a look with Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, even though they get managed with different managers, but they managed to stay at the top in both domestic and international leagues.

Not many teams can being consistent.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Nwada001 on December 26, 2023, 03:07:38 PM
Football could be described as the whole world entire heritage but not really every individual heritage because we can choose to have passion for another kind of sports instead of football, while some don't have to inherit football before they create passion for it, we all have what we want and knows how to go about it no matter the way it appears to us, we will still remain with our choice because we are satisfied with how it being played.

I don't see anything like inheritance on football; is it some kind of property that's being passed from parent to child or from spouse to spouse? Football is not a generational thing, and I don't know why people see it that way.
 
Clubs can be built from scratch, and the team that made up that club can still be sold out to a different team, and the old team will still stand. It's just something that changes from time to time, and the love and passion that those players have for the game is what will keep the game going.
 
And in the aspect of winning a game, this part is done by their professionalism and how they try to compose and control their own team and members to take advantage of whatever opportunities come their way. The winning is not being passed down to them; it's what they work for in every league.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: maydna on December 26, 2023, 04:06:42 PM
Building a strong foundation for a football team is not easy because the coach must know each player's skills to put the appropriate position for each player. If the players' positions are appropriate, their team can outperform the opposing team to win against the opposing team. The players will try to defend the championship title if the football club wins in many tournaments or in the league. This championship title will be passed on to the younger generation of players, but that is not easy because, again, the coach must be able to choose talented players to defend their title. However, many football clubs cannot defend their title due to lacking talented players, so the championship title moves to the opposing team.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: death69 on December 26, 2023, 05:48:38 PM
Football is a fun game have fun while playing and enjoy your practice football takes time to master be patient and keep practicing. The game of football is usually based on a team if the teams are not strong then it is difficult to strengthen the base. In the game there will be losses and wins without creating a bad attitude we have to move forward encouraging each other to win the next match. Regular practice is one of the most important factors in developing soccer skills. You can practice with a friend or family member or join a football club by taking training from a coach you can learn about different aspects of playing football. Watching professional football games will help you learn about different tricks and tips for playing football.
What you say may seem easy to do and can develop the quality of achievement and skills of football player.
Moreover, in the context of this thread, what the OP is conveying is not about how to become great football player but about the belief that the football team has inherited every failure that occurs.
In the game of football, when there is only one great player and the other 10 players do not develop to the point of having good playing qualities, it will be the same and it is difficult for them for football team to develop and achieve proud achievements.
I agree that football is game that really relies on the cooperation of all the players in the team, but if team has failed for long time and is only lower class team then it will always remain the same.
Except for those team that already have experience in competing in the big league and are famous, there may always be hope that they can perform optimally again in the big league.
Just look, there are quite lot of team experiencing problem like this and there is clear evidence that we can see clearly, namely that every league is only filled with the same team every season.
When there is shift because relegation will also return, only a few of these team will have chance.
It's evident that the importance of team cohesion cannot be overshadowed by the brilliance of one player. I've seen it time and again; teams relying too heavily on one star player often crumble under pressure. In the end, this is a team sport. First things first: this isn't merely a matter of strategy and ability. Mindset and belief are key. Teams in a losing streak frequently become victims of their own self-fulfilling prophecy. They act accordingly, believing they are destined to fail.

And yet, hope isn't lost. Those lower-tier teams? They require a belief-spark and a change in perspective. History has shown us underdogs rising, defying odds. While difficult, it's not insurmountable. A shift in perspective might lead to a shift in luck. We've seen it before, and we'll see it again.  8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Ndabagi01 on December 26, 2023, 05:59:49 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

Your point of view is valid, and it is consistent with what we have observed in the majority of these teams to date. While some teams have lost their past glory and are no longer to be found, others have never known what it is like to win a trophy. I agree with you that football is a hereditary sport that is passed down from generation to generation of team members. However, some teams tend to change the narrative and become a competitive team over time by bringing in quality players and a good coach to manage the team's affairs.

Not all teams are successful with this method, but quite a few are. This is the case with Manchester City, who were nowhere to be found a few decades ago, but in the last decade they have become a household name in the history of the Premier League and have now won more trophies than other major teams that have lost their glory days.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Wakate on December 26, 2023, 07:10:15 PM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.
Yes football is somehow hereditary but not in all persons. We need to understand this so that sometimes when players join a club and it is noticed that the club is doing well, we shouldn't always praise the coach because they are not the one playing the ball. There are lots of things that need to be put into consideration for a team to be winning consistently. Sometimes the coach can be blamed if he is not doing a good job to put the right players in place for them to play and win matches. Luck is also important for a team to keep winning matches and toping other clubs and team to reach heights.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: sunsilk on December 26, 2023, 07:41:33 PM
I am not a huge football fan but every time that I see some short videos of it including the fans, not just fans but die hard fans supporting their favorite teams. It's like that it's already attached to them for a very long time like it's passed on to their daughters and sons that will continue the support that they've done.

While some clubs that I am familiar with are just continuing to make noises and that heritage is liked being protected for so many years. And there goes the players that have been part of these clubs like they're not just players at all but like entirely the club itself. I think what's good with their reputations aside from that is the influence that they're bringing to the kids today. It's like giving them more enthusiasm and passion and wanting to be a great person someday like their idols.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 28, 2023, 08:29:01 AM
I have always liked to talk about football because I consider it to be my Passion for Everything. When I was very young I Always wanted to be a player for my national team, I even told myself that I was going to take the Team very far, but in In view of many things, I didn't get involved in soccer and I had to learn on the Street , of course I was already a little old, and the language was not the same, there were people that started when I was 4 years Old and even though I had that talent because they didn't put them in, something that is happening with my son and he also wants the same, so I think that's what one calls having heart, well I know that in Europe things are quite strong , I Could say that when it comes to to do things better for the sport in this case they are very good at playing soccer, I have experience playing with German friends, and wow the Truth is they are very nice, especially running, also since they are so tall , they usually pick up speed very Quickly and are very strong, really to play against them, as an athlete you Must be very strong.

Now, since I have had the opportunity to play with them, also with the Brazilians , and they are Very very good, because apart from the fact that they run a lot, they have a very good technique, apart from that I think that with samba they play better , because there are many things that They make movements similar to the Samba dance and it is something that turns out to be difficult to read, so my respects to the Brazilians and their way of Playing is very cool, this is really very exciting, compared to other styles of dancing. game, for example the Colombian, the Colombian if you are not careful or if you are too strong, they break your leg easily, just like that, they play very hard and like starting, I don't know, I think they also do it when they are foreigners who play Against them, they play very hard, so you have to be careful , I think each country plays in its own way and it is Exciting.


Your football story shows the sport's worldwide charm. The Germans, Brazilians, and Colombians show how football reflects cultural identities. Yes, each nation's pitch has its own taste, reflecting cultural dynamics.

Brazilian play is dance-like, reflecting their rich culture. It contrasts with the Germans' disciplined, strength-based approach, which I was challenged but enjoyed playing against. Contrasting styles show football's diversity.

Your son will benefit from these tips. Let him absorb various styles and find his own. In my experience, understanding football's culture helps improve one's game. You must understand the sport's soul and rhythm, which differs so beautifully around the world, as well as physical prowess.

Yes, without a doubt, things are and speak for themselves when it comes to football, the good thing about children today is that they adapt very shabby to any culture and take their unique style, but it's like You say, I consider that if they are in good physical condition they can perform anywhere, the most difficult thing about playing against the Brazilians is that they are able to play very well and without exhausting themselves in very hot climates, in Manaus they play at noon in a place where sometimes the temperature reaches almost 50°C and that for me is very challenging, because you get to run only a few meters and you can already feel the exhaustion and how your body loses fluids, when that happens it is noticeable, But perhaps the Brazilians are used to it and it doesn't show at all because they have great skill and great speed. What I love about Brazilian soccer is that they don't resort to dirty play or anything, they are like artists.

With the Germans it is as I said before, they are people who have a privileged physique, very tall, strong and they also run a lot, they can make any type of plays in seconds and while they are up there, possibly scoring a goal, you chase them sometimes without success, But of course all this is because physical condition is everything, just as in any sport, sometimes you can think that for boxing or contact sports you need to have great physical condition, but for this sport too and it is very demanding, things are really exhausting, and oh, with the Colombians, it's a little softer, only their style of soccer is harder, I have a friend who once played in Lelgar and they sprained his ankle, something that brought him back for a while. Playing for more than 6 months while I was recovering, it is one of the roughest styles of soccer that I know, that is why all these things forge the spirit of anyone and that is what they like, as you say, soccer culture is everything, it is their identity.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Agbamoni on December 28, 2023, 11:03:53 AM
Football indeed is a gme of passion. A passion that drives you to win at all cost and not loss. I come to understand that when it comes to football the roots and foundation of a football team matters. A team that is not built with a strong foundation. In terms of reputation, pattern, performance and strategy may affect the players that will be playing in that team years to come. What am saying in essence is that football may be hereditary. I believe you may or may not gree to the fact that some football clubs have passed down the spirit of not able to win league titles in as much as the current players of that team tries. They always end up bottling the league at the end.

Your point of view is valid, and it is consistent with what we have observed in the majority of these teams to date. While some teams have lost their past glory and are no longer to be found, others have never known what it is like to win a trophy. I agree with you that football is a hereditary sport that is passed down from generation to generation of team members. However, some teams tend to change the narrative and become a competitive team over time by bringing in quality players and a good coach to manage the team's affairs.

Not all teams are successful with this method, but quite a few are. This is the case with Manchester City, who were nowhere to be found a few decades ago, but in the last decade they have become a household name in the history of the Premier League and have now won more trophies than other major teams that have lost their glory days.
Very good. If a teams wants to change their hereditary aspect. They have to dig out the roots and throw them somewhere else. There are teams that have been in their worst form from the 90s but now they are doing better. A typical example is Aston Villa and Newcastle. Ever since these teams was able to secure new positions for people who can bring bright future for them
 There have been changes and total improvement. Newcastle was bought by someone else, during this period they got new manages and pumped in money to the team to get quality players, now look at their improvement.

A hereditary course can only be broken when the foundation of it is shattered. For how many years tottenham has been struggling but they cannot win any title. It is something to look back on.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Hirose UK on December 28, 2023, 02:38:56 PM
It's evident that the importance of team cohesion cannot be overshadowed by the brilliance of one player. I've seen it time and again; teams relying too heavily on one star player often crumble under pressure. In the end, this is a team sport. First things first: this isn't merely a matter of strategy and ability. Mindset and belief are key. Teams in a losing streak frequently become victims of their own self-fulfilling prophecy. They act accordingly, believing they are destined to fail.

And yet, hope isn't lost. Those lower-tier teams? They require a belief-spark and a change in perspective. History has shown us underdogs rising, defying odds. While difficult, it's not insurmountable. A shift in perspective might lead to a shift in luck. We've seen it before, and we'll see it again.  8) 8) 8)
Indeed, that is what has actually happened so far in the performance of every football team, they will never be able to escape the strength of team that has several mainstay players and of course when all the perfect players are in place and coupled with qualified coach it can make the team stronger even difficult to beat.
This is why big team can always be at the top, big teams dominate every competition they participate in and weak teams are just perfect for every competition or you could say they are stepping stone for big team to always win every competition.
There have been many team that only relied on one player and in the end they failed, they slumped to the point where they couldn't compete well.
And indeed trust and confidence will also influence the game because when they play against stronger team there will be kind of disappearance confidence or pessimism about victory.

This will continue to happen as time goes by and no circumstances will ever change it.
We will see something that is truly monotonous shown by most team who fail to develop well every season.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: Maus0728 on December 28, 2023, 03:15:16 PM
That's because they've got a bad funding that they don't have the budget to be able to get really good players to stay and that's the sad truth about football, even if you've grown up on that club and got lucky enough to play to them, after all this profound matters, it's all money matters for the majority, no matter how strong the brotherhood and the camaraderie in that team if they continue to not have the money, they'll continue to be that team that sucks for more generations until they find the right people to fund their team to upgrade in terms of players, facilities and coaching staff.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 09, 2024, 02:48:40 PM
That's because they've got a bad funding that they don't have the budget to be able to get really good players to stay and that's the sad truth about football, even if you've grown up on that club and got lucky enough to play to them, after all this profound matters, it's all money matters for the majority, no matter how strong the brotherhood and the camaraderie in that team if they continue to not have the money, they'll continue to be that team that sucks for more generations until they find the right people to fund their team to upgrade in terms of players, facilities and coaching staff.
A lot of examples are there to back this claim, indeed the funding matters and the more the money that comes in more top class players can be recruited or a balanced team can be built using the funding. This funding is again from advertisements, companies related to games, casinos and tickets to matches. Clubs exist to promote the smaller players as they grow into world class players but it has become a sort of a business at this point.

Still then the spiritual aspect exists and we see the heritage over time. We should try to reincorporate that into the next generation of supporters.


Title: Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual
Post by: 348Judah on January 09, 2024, 03:05:46 PM
In football games, it's all about what you can deliver and not what you net in ground, you can choose to go by what you want, I don't know what is being meant by the spiritual aspect in this but we can definitely choose from what to do or not, football has to do by what we know how to offer best and how we are being able to make a profession in it, I've seen an instance of a father into football and yet none of his children were Interested in it, this is about what we have all developed ourselves to become than what we met already on ground.