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The "Brasileirão" doesn't stop never for us, so it's never too early to open the new Brasileirão 2024 topic, which should only start on April 14th ;D

We will have something new in this new season, as the CBF declared that they will start the championship with a "commemorative match" ???, but the rest will remain the same... 20 teams will face each other during 38 matches that will be divided into two rounds.

Here's the possible future champions:
     Athletico Paranaense
     Atlético Goianiense (moved up)
     Atlético Mineiro
     Bahia
     Botafogo
     Corinthians
     Criciúma (moved ub)
     Cruzeiro
     Cuiabá
     Flamengo
     Fluminense
     Fortaleza
     Grêmio
     International
     Juventude (moved ub)
     Palmeiras (last champion)
     Red Bull Bragantino
     São Paulo
     Vasco
     Vitória (moved ub)

Until the championship starts, we will discuss movements between players and coaches from the clubs above.

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I am updating thIS OP with information about the Brazilian Women's Football Championship (Women's Brasileirão), which will start on March 17th with the following teams:

• América Mineiro
• Atlético Mineiro
• Avaí/Kindermann
• Botafogo
• Corinthians (last champion)
• Cruzeiro
• Ferroviária
• Flamengo
• Fluminense
• Grêmio
• Internacional
• Palmeiras
• Real Brasília
• Red Bull Bragantino
• Santos
• São Paulo

Campeonato Brasileiro is an annual competition for the Brazilian football team and this competition is quite popular and is one of the best competitions there. Although outside Brazil the Brasileirao competition is not that popular but for the Brazilian team this is an opportunity for them to compete for the annual title.
Palmeiras is the only most successful team with the most titles, namely 11 titles, and Palmeiras also won 2022 and 2023 Brasileirao or last season.
Palmeiras still seems to have chance as candidate to defend the title and can add to their record of success in the Brasileirao and of course with this success they can also prove that they are one of the strongest team.
After experiencing setbacks, in the last few seasons Palmeiras has succeeded in making changes and proving that their development has really produced results in winning the title.
They even managed to reach the final of the Supercopa do Brasil which will take place in early February against Sao Paulo FC.

Last season have one thing ironic with Brazilian Championship Serie A, one teams have a lot of history Santos have relegated to Brazil Serie B, its not good thing for teams success promoting many top players from Pele until Neymar but they have relegated to Brazil Serie B for season 2024. Palmeiras is the last season winner teams and I have little update with this teams after Real Madrid announcing signed Endrick from Palmeiras, he was become super star and helped Palmeiras winning domestic league with his contributing 11 goals of 31 matches.
Little sad he will leaves Palmeiras and joined with Real Madrid on June, seems he will play as several matches only for season 2024.

In fact, this is a reality that Santos is not used to facing... and now comes the financial problem because by being eliminated from the main category of the Brasileirão and also the "Copa do Brasil", Santos will face financial chaos in 2024 because it does not have incentives from sponsors and advertising space on television. I'm glad Pelé is no longer alive to witness this sadness from Santos fans... he really doesn't deserve it.

Also speaking of Palmeiras... I just read that they are already continuing with Mayke's contract renewal until 2025. Will they keep most of their good players for the new season in order to win a few more titles? I believe that money is not a problem for Palmeiras, so I doubt they will get rid of many players.

I have no doubt... but Brazilian Championship Serie A in 2024 will be different, because it is not every year that a team like Santos is relegated to Serie B.

I even think that one of the main factors that made Santos situation worse was having drawn and lost the last games of that championship, if they had performed better in this last games of Brasileirao, I'm sure they would have been in Serie A, but didn't happen

It's the first time Santos will play in the Brazilian B series  :D
It's a fact that Santos fans used to boast about, that they had never been relegated and that big teams never got relegated  ;D
Unfortunately it happened
In 38 games Santos only won 11 times, a campaign worthy of relegation indeed

But it should be short. The team will certainly restructure itself, play against weaker opponents and have a great chance of qualifying for Serie A again and even becoming Serie B champions in 2024

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This season I managed to get the champion right, I'm going to try this long bet again, but only when there's one day left until the start of the championship. I still need to watch the teams, watch the states championship, find out who will be signed for the teams, etc.

So we need to look on the bright side of history... Santos will finally have the chance to win an unprecedented title: First place in the second division of the Brazilian championship.


Speaking of Internacional... I read today that the promise for 2024 is to focus 100% on the Brasileirão so that maybe we can break the 45-year fast without winning that title.
The promise is to carry out a very aggressive campaign with an investment of up to 9 million euros in acquiring players in all sectors of the team and providing the coach with several options.

Yes, i algo agrere with that and like what you said, there is always a first time!
But Santos made several mistakes, I confess it was incredible, they just needed to win the last game, but they lost to Fortaleza.
Another possibility was If Santos had at least drawn that last game and Bahia had also drawn... Bahia would have been relegated to Serie B and Santos would have remained in Serie A, but that didn't happen.

Another team that narrowly missed being relegated to Serie B was Cruzeiro, but in the last few games the team "woke up" and performed relatively well compared to the rest of the season.

So, I remembered now...
In the Brasileirão we also have a women's league that is gaining a lot of prominence and praise, as the quality of their football is enough to impress many men.
In this sense, I am updating the OP with information about the women's championship, which will start on March 17th with the following teams:

• América Mineiro
• Atlético Mineiro
• Avaí/Kindermann
• Botafogo
• Corinthians
• Cruzeiro
• Ferroviária
• Flamengo
• Fluminense
• Grêmio
• Internacional
• Palmeiras
• Real Brasília
• Red Bull Bragantino
• Santos
• São Paulo

Recently I was researching and analyzing the Brazilian Championship (aka Brasileirão) in the year 2024 and I found some relevant points that I would like to share in this topic.

Well, this has indeed become true and in this year's championship the CBF (Brazilian Football Confederation) will hold an opening match and not a full round as is currently the case.
Possibly the main idea is to hold this debut match with last year's Brasileirao champion (Palmeiras) against another team that has a large fan base (I believe Flamengo or Corinthians could be those teams).

Look, I confess this is something interesting and that it never happened in the Brasileirao, perhaps this type of change could give more visibility and notoriety to this year's of Brazilian Championship.

By the way... below I will share the calendar of the national football championships that will take place in Brazil in 2024.

Dates of national championships held by the CBF (Confederação Brasileira de Futebol // Brazilian Football Confederation) in 2024:

• Brazilian Cup: 21/02 - 10/11
• Brazilian Championship (Brasileirão Serie A): 14/04 - 08/12
• Brazilian Championship (Brasileirão Serie B): 04/20 - 11/26
• Brazilian Championship (Brasileirão Serie C): 21/04 - 20/10
• Brazilian Championship (Brasileirão Serie D): 21/04 - 29/09
• Brazilian Super Cup: 03/02

Source: https://www.cbf.com.br/futebol-brasileiro/noticias/index/campeonato-brasileiro-2024-tera-pela-primeira-vez-jogo-de-abertura (https://www.cbf.com.br/futebol-brasileiro/noticias/index/campeonato-brasileiro-2024-tera-pela-primeira-vez-jogo-de-abertura)

This opening match is sure to attract more attention, to have a full stadium and full media attention, since it will only be 1 game
And it will be on April 13th
I also believe that it will be Palmeiras vs Flamengo, it makes more sense to have a match between the champion (from the state of São Paulo) and the team with the biggest fans (from the state of Rio de Janeiro) Flamengo, it will certainly fill the stadium and give a lot of audience. There are Flamengo fans all over Brazil  :o


It's very good that the women's league is gaining attention, with more games being broadcast, more sponsors and more teams joining women's soccer. It's a good opportunity, especially for younger women, to have a chance to earn money from soccer, something that was practically impossible until a few years ago.

I don't know if there will be betting on women's soccer. Last year I placed several bets on the World Cup, but I don't remember seeing the Brazilian championship

Yes, that's a fact! I'm sure this will bring more visibility to the Brazilian Championship (Brasileirao). They adopted this type of championship/opening start inspired by some leagues in the United States!

Another interesting point that was disclosed is that Ednaldo Rodrigues (president of CBF - Brazilian Football Confederation) will make some stoppages of the Brasileirao during the FIFA dates, having as a result to not coincide the dates of others official FIFA championships with the dates of the Brasileirao games, therefore, several players will be able to play in several championships without committing or prioritizing a particular game during the year.

Well... a question I'm asking myself... what is the possible team that will play this opening game against Palmeiras? Does something concrete already exist? Or are they just rumors? And what will be the stadium for this opening game? Possibly Maracana or Allianz Parque? Or are there other plausible options? That's my question!

The stoppages in the Brazilian championship are following the FIFA agenda, just like in other countries
In Brazil nowadays there's a different situation than there was years ago, several foreigners playing here, Argentinians, Uruguayans, Paraguayans etc, so I think it's a trend and the right thing to do

I remember seeing somewhere that last year there were 130 foreigners in the Brazilian league A, including players and coaches

About the opening match
As I said in the previous post, I'm betting on Palmeiras vs Flamengo at the Allianz Arena (Palmeiras' stadium)

after Botafogo was embarrassed last season, I hope this season they don't stay at the top of the table in the first games, that would only make many people laugh at them and poor Botafogo fans who would have to relive the sad memory that Botafogo was very distant of all teams and at the end of the league they finished below first and second place. Predicting now who will win Brasileirao is a very difficult task, even when the games start it will be very difficult to predict who will be the winner, during the season I was watching Palmeiras, but then I changed my mind and started watching Botafogo, but then I changed my ideals and started seeing palm trees.

for this season, first I need to see the squad of each team, then I want to see the first 5 games of each team, only then will I have an idea of how each team has been doing and what the potential of each team is and which team has the greatest chances of win the league. I hope that in this new season Flamengo will be a strong team capable of winning the league. I haven't had time yet to see how much change Flamengo has already made or if they have plans to make them so that they stay strong enough to win the title. They could have won the title last season if they had been a consistent team that won every game. but unfortunately they didn't manage to win the league, I hope this new season will be different

So... I believe the opposite, Botafogo needs to surprise its fans by winning as many results as it can. This will not bring sadness to the players, but rather demonstrate that the team managed to reorganize itself and that it is capable of returning to the main category and being among the first in the following season (2025).

In addition to the Brasileirão, its important to remember that Botafogo can also achieve other achievements this year that will excite their fans, starting with the "Campeonato Carioca" which starts later this month, there is also the "Copa do Brasil" and the "Pre-Libertadores".

I believe that Botafogo can organize its team and think about winning titles... The "Carioca" (state) championship is possible to achieve, and with a good restructuring of the team its possible to also think about greater achievements for this year. ;)

These are valid observations...
In fact, it is very advantageous and interesting for the Brazilian team to adopt these breaks/stoppages  in accordance with FIFA's agenda, I believe that everyone (or almost everyone) will benefit, staff, players, teams, fans and others.

If we analyze the opening game, I also agree with you, the most likely to happen will be the game between Flamengo x Palmeiras.

Botafogo should at least have qualified directly for the Libertadores, but the second half of the championship was really difficult for them
I don't know what to think of Botafogo yet, I need to see them play with the changes they've made to the team, the Carioca championship could be a good one to watch and analyze better

At the same time as being an excellent team, which led the league and finished in 5th place, it's also the same team that had one of the worst campaigns in the second round, so it's still a mystery for me (for us)
I would stay away from any bet involving Botafogo  :D :D :D

Is it too early to say Palmeiras will win once again? :D

Betting houses are considering Flamengo as the favorite to win Brasileirão 2024. Palmeiras comes in second place and Atlético-MG in third. They might know something we don't, but it seems unreasonable to put Flamengo as favorite when Palmeiras remains unbeatable and getting stronger season after season. There aren't significant changes in Palmeiras team to consider they shouldn't be the favorite anymore.

They have proven to deliver a stable performance even in very unfavourable and uncertain conditions, like it happened last year with Botafogo dominating the champioship for a long time. Despite this fact, Palmeiras didn't get unsettled and bounced back in the end.

I confess this is an interesting question but this could happen lol

Lately, Palmeiras, in addition to being an excellent team, has been consistent and this is one of the main factors that make it one of this year's favorite teams.
But I have no doubt that he could finish the championship in the top 3 or top 5, there is a high possibility of that happening.

Another possible team, that could be champion is Gremio, in the last year of Brasileirão they finished in second place, analyzing from this perspective, they also have a chance of being the champion of this season of Brasileirão.

An interesting variable that I would like to share and that can be very useful are trades, this is an important factor that will decide the future of the Brasileirao teams.


You can see the trades on these Brazilian sites...
○ Contratações para 2024: veja quem chega e quem vai embora dos principais clubes brasileiros (https://ge.globo.com/mercado-da-bola/noticia/2023/12/07/contratacoes-para-2024-veja-quem-chega-e-quem-vai-embora-dos-principais-clubes-brasileiros.ghtml)
○ transfermarkt (https://www.transfermarkt.com.br/campeonato-brasileiro-serie-a/transfers/wettbewerb/BRA1)

Yeap!

So... last season Botafogo led the championship from the third round until the thirty-third, so I honestly don't want to bet on any champion for this 2024 season, at least until the middle of the championship.
We already know that the main Brazilian football championship is the most competitive and difficult in the world, and we also know that being champion in the last season does not guarantee good results in the following season.... unlike the European championships, there are no pre-defined favorites in the Brazilian championship, every year we have a surprise.

Who will win?
Let's leave this question and answer for a few months, maybe!?

Last year I won the bet on Palmeiras being champions, but this year I still need to watch the state championships to get a good idea of who to bet on, it's better to make this bet one day before the championship starts

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Botafogo, after losing last season's title, are reshaping their squad
14 players in total have already left the team, most notably goalkeeper Lucas Perri and Adryelson (defender) who have been sold to Lyon (France)
These are two important losses, but Botafogo want to reshape the team considerably

Yes!
Botafogo really opened up space for new signings.
In goal, as far as I know John came to be the starting goalkeeper and in defense Lucas Halter and Barboza who were standouts in Goiás and Libertad will play a very different defense this year.
I'm just not very convinced that Botafogo made good options for the attack... Jeffinho, Savarino?? I don't think it will make a big difference, but we'll see how they interact with the team on the field.

Anyway... there were changes in all sectors of the team, from what I could see, we'll see. For better or worse, something must change.

At least they've taken action and are reshaping the team
I don't blame them that much anymore, because looking at the past, the coach leaving Botafogo in the middle of the championship was a very hard hit for the whole team

Savarino was the second most expensive signing in Botafogo's history, and to tell you the truth, I didn't even know this player  :D
The team paid around 2.6 million dollars, which is about 13 million BRL (Source (https://ge.globo.com/futebol/times/botafogo/noticia/2024/01/11/savarino-vira-a-2a-contratacao-mais-cara-da-historia-do-botafogo-veja-a-lista.ghtml))
It doesn't seem like much compared to Europe, but by Brazilian standards, it's a very expensive player indeed
In the Carioca championship we'll be able to get a preview of how the team will play

Another news about the 2024 Brazilian Championship  :)

It was announced that Rede Globo (one of the largest television channel companies in Brazil) has just signed a contract with the last team (Criciuma) to be able to broadcast this year's Brazilian Championship games.
Now, Rede Globo has the right to broadcast the 2024 season games of all teams, and can broadcast on open transmission channels, paid channel and pay-per-view.

source: https://ge.globo.com/negocios-do-esporte/noticia/2024/01/18/criciuma-fecha-com-globo-por-transmissao-da-serie-a-em-2024.ghtml (https://ge.globo.com/negocios-do-esporte/noticia/2024/01/18/criciuma-fecha-com-globo-por-transmissao-da-serie-a-em-2024.ghtml)

Globo monopoly once again?
Unfortunately, the clubs have once again surrendered to the Globo network's money and now those who have money will be able to choose what they want on PayPerView, the others will have to watch the favorites that Globo chooses. With the exception of Athletico-PR, Globo can only broadcast its games on open TV.

Last year, the regulatory agency CADE (Administrative Council for Economic Defense) had investigated Globo for monopoly, broadcasting games under specific interest and for making it difficult to transfer images to other broadcasters, in short... nothing came of it.

I would like to know what the agreement was reached (in terms of values) for each team, as we know that some receive much more than others.

I was curious to see the news because last year Globo wasn't allowed to broadcast Athletico PR's games, and this year it will only be able to broadcast on free channels like Globo. No SporTV or Premiere for the team's matches
I remember it well because CazeTV broadcast all the team's matches and gained a lot of followers

I wonder if in a few years the teams themselves will be able to broadcast their matches. Leaving aside the TV stations so they can try to make more money?
At least the bigger teams

This is serious? I didn't know about this event, I wouldn't have imagined that Globo was involved in a monopoly focused on football... well, I hope that at the end of all this, the ones who suffer are not the fans and viewers.

Hmm... that's a good question! I believe so, year after year new technologies are emerging and streaming has become better known not only in Brazil but worldwide.
I remember that during the World Cup the streamer CazeTv also broadcast the games and I watched some, I confess that it was an interesting experience and I liked it, as previously most of the World Cup games were broadcast on open transmission channels. Possibly yes, I also believe that in the future some teams (not just football), but other sports will start broadcasting games (streaming)

I don't know if you've seen this news, I saw it today and it was published yesterday:
There's a company that's been hired to analyze the refereeing of Campeonato Carioca 2024 (Good Game! is the name of the company), and it claims that it's 99% sure that there was match-fixing in last year's Brazilian championship (2023)

Source here (https://www.uol.com.br/esporte/futebol/ultimas-noticias/2024/01/22/empresa-acredita-em-manipulacao-no-brasileirao-2023-99-convencidos.htm)

What do you think?
According to the company, it wasn't a whole team trying to manipulate, but a few players
I think it's entirely possible, but it's very difficult to prove it

This new season I think that Botafogo RJ should try to have a better control of their position in the league.I am very sorry for them losing the title completely on their own fault and no other reason,they were a huge 9 points advantage at a certain point and they managed to lose it all in the final stages of the last season.What makes it worse is that they even had a chance in those final stages to correct their mistakes and they did not profit in the moments where Palmeiras lost points.I think they will be a contender to the title again this season but let's see how it looks.

Botafogo RJ's situation is not very easy
Yesterday the team lost to Boavista in the Carioca championship, it's a small team
The team has won 2 and lost 1 so far
It's worth keeping an eye on the state championship as it's a great preview of what the Brazilian championship will be like in 2024

Palmeiras, for example, were champions of Paulista 2023 and were also champions of Brasileiro 2023.

So far the first games of the big teams haven't been that good, they're still getting their teams right, making changes, trying out new players and finding new positions, and in a few rounds we'll be able to get a better view
It's even a bit difficult to find a good bet for the games, as they're very unpredictable at the moment

I'll be honest, I confess that I am surprised by this news!
Well, I imagined that there was some kind of match fixing of some football games in Brazil, but I didn't think the situation was more serious.
Currently, it is carrying out a match fixing operation (https://ge.globo.com/go/futebol/times/goias/noticia/2023/11/28/operacao-contra-manipulacao-de-resultados-chega-a-terceira-fase-e-cumpre-dez-mandados-de-busca-e-apreensao-em-quatro-estados.ghtml) for some national and state championship games in Brazil.
This event is actually more serious than I imagined.

I remember that operation you mentioned, it's a disgrace for Brazilian soccer and I hope they manage to punish those responsible, setting an example so that it doesn't happen again
Let's wait for the next news to see if they manage to prove that the Brazilian A series championship has also been manipulated

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Guys, are you watching the state championships?
As you know, I'm a Corinthians fan, and I'm not at all excited about the team for the Brazilian championship, they lost to São Paulo yesterday and the team doesn't seem to have improved at all, even after changing the coach and several players

I watched some highlights from some games.
But I also realized that some teams are performing poorly, especially Corinthians. (played 4 games, won 1 and lost 3 games)
Could this poor performance of some teams in the state championships be reflected in this year's of Brasileirao? Or could things change by then?

Absolutely, the results of the state championships can have an impact on future performance in the Brasileirao

The state championships are an excellent way for teams to test out their players, new formations, get used to playing with their new players and coaches. Quite different from what happens in other leagues around the world

-> If the team does well in the state championship, they can keep the same way of playing
-> If the team does very badly, they still have a few days to reshape, once again, and then play in the Brasileirão

Last year was a good example, Palmeiras were Paulista champions and then Brazilian champions

Are you a São Paulo fan gagux? I can't remember your team

I kind of disagree that the results of the state championships can reflect the result of the Brasileirão....
Generally, the state championship often serves as a period of testing and adaptation of new signings, arranging the team and discovering potential with combinations of different formations on the field.
Not to mention that, even at the beginning of the year, with the state championship already taking place, it is common to see signings still being made.

Anyway, I looked for some historical data and didn't find much of a relationship between the good performance of the state championships and the Brasileirão.

In a state like São Paulo, for example, this can even serve as a base, but if you take other states in which there is only one state team that participates in the Brasileirão championship, there is no way to measure their performance relationship.

Think of it this way: the Brazilian champion has theoretically been a strong team all year, since it's a points race, and if the team won the Brazilian championship, there's a good chance they'll have won the state championship too, since it's an easier
It's not a guarantee, of course, but there's a good chance
And it's also true that there's still the transfer window after the state championships, so the teams that didn't do well still have the chance to make some last-minute signings to try and strengthen the squad

Then I'll find out who the last Brazilian champions were, if they were also state champions
It might even help with the next bets hehehe  ;D

Back in the 90s-2000s it was much more competitive and was really cool to watch, today teams generally do tests and use reserves, using the showcase team to negotiate players, I think that time has passed and the state championship has lost some of the importance it once had.

remembering the 2000s, I will never forget the Flamengo x Vasco final in 2001, Pet's goal in the 43rd minute. the second half, epic! One of the best memories I have of a state championship.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG8chsn-iNk

You probably follow the carioca championship more, right?

I'm from the state of São Paulo and I support Corinthians, so I end up watching the Paulista championship more, and it's still a very competitive championship. Of course, the big teams take the opportunity to try out new players, and the smaller teams do their best to try to be champions or at least reach the semi-finals

But an important detail: the prize money in the São Paulo championship is so good, you won't believe it:
The big 4 (Corinthians, São Paulo, Palmeiras and Santos) will receive 40 million reais each in TV rights.
While the smaller teams will receive 8 million reais

As you can see, it's a significant amount, and if they go further in the championship, they'll receive even more  :o

I just read that these "absurd" values only tend to increase, as the members of "Libra" which is mainly made up of nine clubs from Series A (Flamengo, Corinthians, São Paulo, Palmeiras, Bahia, Vitória, Atlético-MG, Grêmio and Red Bull Bragantino), is already negotiating TV rights for next year's Brasileirão and the amount involved in this negotiation is billions.
To give you an idea, "TV Globo" has already offered R$ 1.3 billion (Brazilian value) but the association refused it :P

Furthermore, there is also sponsorship from companies that certainly also pay a lot of money to appear on the shirts of the main football teams.

I keep thinking that the main objective of these clubs is not to win the championship, but to gain from advertising.

I'd even forgotten about this "LIBRA" group
The situation is not easy for Globo, now that the clubs have discovered that they can make even more money than selling the broadcast to Globo, but this amount of 1.3 billion reais is quite absurd  :o :o :o

And in 2024 I bet we'll have even more sportsbooks sponsoring Brazilian clubs
I'm going to do a research to find out if we'll have record sponsorship this year, but possibly we will

Yes, I support Flamengo so I follow the Rio championship more, look, this award is new to me, it really is a lot of money, maybe they (organizers of the state) are doing like the Brazilian Cup, increasing the prize to avoid precisely use state championships as experimental championships for big teams

With a little research, I discovered that the 2024 Carioca championship will not have a prize for the winner, but the clubs will receive a fixed fee
I couldn't find out how much this amount is, but I'm sure that your team Flamengo is the one that receives the most from Rede Globo's broadcasting rights

As far as I know the Carioca championship is widely watched throughout Brazil due to the fact that Flamengo has fans all over the country

So in the case of the Carioca championship, this must be the reason why you see teams focusing more on testing players and new formations, rather than actually trying to win the championship, since the money is already guaranteed, no matter the position they finish in the league

Is that true? I'm surprised! In most championships, the champion team receives a prize and second and third place as well (but with smaller amount).

Well, let's see how this method will work, as already mentioned, it will be interesting for teams to put other players on to gain experience and test new team formations and tactics during the championship games.

I didn't know that, it's news to me!  clubs ones receiving fixed fees, but what would be the point of that? If we analyze it, it is an incentive to compete in the championship with any test squad, this in my opinion devalues the competition, as we all like to watch games with clubs playing at full strength.

Carioca is not the main one and normally lower league Champion it is in complete discretion to the Football federation.I see this implementation quite common in many countries,in fact where I live now they have put a formula that even in the main league to give a prize only to the top 4 teams as they will play against each other to decide the Champion and Champion will not be the team ending 1st in the standings.Nothing to be surprised here.

In Brazil there are these formats of regional championships, they also guarantee a place for the Copa do Brasil [1], is there this type of championship in your country as well? divided by states, usually at the beginning of each season? In the past, these state championships had much more credibility than they do today.

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_do_Brasil

The explanation for the lack of a prize for the winner is a bit confusing and makes no sense to me

According to the Rio de Janeiro federation (in 2023 there were no prizes either), the lack of performance prizes is due to the lack of unanimity between the participating teams and the agency responsible for broadcasting the matches
So they only receive and will receive the rights to broadcast the games

To me, this is a generic explanation and they haven't given any more information
Here's a source, but it's in PT in case anyone is interested in reading it: HERE (https://ge.globo.com/futebol/times/fluminense/noticia/2023/04/09/fluminense-nao-recebera-premiacao-em-dinheiro-por-titulo-do-campeonato-carioca.ghtml)

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Another example, the Gauchao (RS) championship also has no prize for the winner  :D

Hmm...that's interesting!
I believe it will vary from championship to championship, in state or national championships I believe that each one should have its own specific prize, but this is relative.
I have no doubt that, when the prize pool is in cash/money, this can encourage teams to be more competitive and fierce and as a result, we can have several interesting games to watch.
I confess that I will be curious to watch some games from these championships, especially the Brasileirao and Copa do Brasil.

My Flamengo won the Guanabara Cup (first round of the state championship in Rio de Janeiro) and had the top scorer (Pedro with 8 goals)... Gabigol apparently became a luxury reserve, Tite is practically the same as Jorge Jesus' beginning... This year we will compete for the Brazilian title for sure....

Here in the forum there are bets to see who will be the Brazilian champion? Was there anything in previous years?

Usually from each competition there will be some income to be able to provide prizes from each winner, as far as I know there is some money coming in such as from sponsors, several broadcast companies such as TV and also streaming platforms as well as from ticket sales in matches.
But everything has distribution in percentages that many people really don't know, the distribution of prizes may indeed be relatively different depending on the competition taking place.
It just that for some big competitions, I sure the prizes are of course also in a decent amount because if championship or competition doesn't have decent prizes it also becomes championship that can't develop, each team has large expenses from paying players, coaches and all management.
After all, everything can run well because of money and without money the development of sports, especially football, cannot possibly develop well.

2024 Brasileiro Serie A will start on April 13 with total of 38 matches, and Palmeiras will be the defending champion in the 2022 and 2023 seasons.
Palmeiras is also the most successful team in this competition so there is possibility that they will win again and defend the title.
They are team that has managed to gain lot of benefits from the Brasileiro Serie A competition which is also one of the main competitions in Brazilian football.

Unfortunately, I have seen that many state championships will simply end!
The amounts that these clubs receive from broadcasting rights often barely pay the salaries of a club's players, especially in the Gaucho championship, for example, which has a small audience that is limited to the southern states of the country.
It may even be that these championships will continue to exist in the future, but only with the participation of smaller clubs.

It's sad to see that a country where football is the main sport is losing good championships due to lack of interest (money).

Anyway... the state championships will soon end and we will start the Brasileirão 2024

Yes this's true. I believe that a large part of the prize pool comes from sponsors. I just can't say precisely what this percentage is, but it depends on the team and also on the sponsors, but as the Brasileirão is national championship, I have no doubt that the prize pool will be relatively high compared to other championships.

Talking about Palmeiras, yes, I also believe that they can be champion of the Brazilian championship in 2024, or at least be in the top 3. In recent years they have been a very consistent team and this is proven by their results, for example, in the In recent years, Palmeiras was champion of the Brasileirao in 2023, 2022 and 2018, in the years it was not champion (in the period I mentioned), it finished the championship in the top 3, only in the year 2020/2021 it finished in 7th place in the Brasileirao

It's strange, but it's like that in most world championships. Especially when it comes to “Franchises” where the focus is on the ecosystem as a whole and not just one or two teams.

This is quite controversial, as several of these titles were gifts from the corrupt Brazilian entity called CBF, which decided to recognize championships played before 1971 (the first year of the Brazilian championship) as national titles. If it weren't for that, Flamengo would hold the most titles....

And now FIFA decides to send a document considering Palmeiras world champion in 1950 [1]. For me it's a joke.

Palmeiras doesn't have a world cup

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reference:

[1] https://www.espn.com.br/futebol/palmeiras/artigo/_/id/13313836/fifa-reconheceu-o-palmeiras-como-campeao-mundial-entenda-por-que-polemica-foi-reacendida-com-ata

This is an excellent question and at the same time much discussed and controversial. Some media and football fans in Brazil say that Palmeiras has a world cup, others don't, or that it has fewer Brazilian titles.

I did a brief search and found some interesting information about the Brasileirao champions and I would like to share it with you.

• Palmeiras: 12x champ (1960, 1967, 1967, 1969, 1972, 1973, 1993, 1994, 2016, 2018, 2022 e 2023).
• Santos: 8x champ (1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1968, 2002 e 2004).
• Corinthians: 7x champ (1990, 1998, 1999, 2005, 2011, 2015 e 2017).
• Flamengo: 7x champ (1980, 1982, 1983, 1992, 2009, 2019 e 2020).
• São Paulo: 6x champ (1977, 1986, 1991, 2006, 2007 e 2008).
• Vasco: 4x champ (1974, 1989, 1997 e 2000).
• Fluminense: 4x champ (1970, 1984, 2010 e 2012).
• Cruzeiro: 4x champ (1966, 2003, 2013 e 2014).
• Internacional: 3x champ (1975, 1976 e 1979).
• Atlético-MG: 3x champ (1937, 1971 e 2021).
• Bahia: 2x champ (1959 e 1988).
• Botafogo: 2x champ (1968 e 1995).
• Grêmio: 2x champ (1981 e 1996).
• Guarani: 1x champ (1978).
• Coritiba: 1x champ (1985).
• Sport: 1x champ (1987).
• Athletico-PR: 1x champ (2001).

Source: Brasileirão: confira lista atualizada com todos os campeões (https://www.terra.com.br/esportes/futebol/brasileirao-confira-lista-atualizada-com-todos-os-campeoes,508f1a71c01d907a5e0c8efaac04231d3em6rnra.html)

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Hey @rdluffy, sorry, i didn't see your question, but yes, i'm Sao Paulo Fan  :) :D

Another controversial issue concerns Sport Clube do Recife's title in the 1987 Brazilian Championship, AKA Copa União... Where have you ever seen a team that won the second division be recognized as champions? Even with the club of 13 recognizing Flamengo's title... This was even a case of legal dispute in the supreme court.


more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Campeonato_Brasileiro_Série_A

I never imagined that this could happen and I thought that Sport would actually be the champion team of the 1987 Brasileirao.
I researched some Brazilian sports and legal websites about this.
The Federal Supreme Court of Brazil (Supremo Tribunal Federal STF) was called and, incredible as it may seem, they denied Flamengo's appeal and kept Sport as champions in 1987.

Source: STF nega recurso ao Flamengo, mantém Sport campeão de 1987 e São Paulo com Taça das Bolinhas (https://ge.globo.com/pe/futebol/noticia/2023/12/06/stf-nega-recurso-ao-flamengo-e-mantem-sport-como-campeao-brasileiro-de-1987.ghtml)
STF mantém Sport como único campeão brasileiro de 1987 (https://www.conjur.com.br/2023-dez-07/stf-mantem-sport-como-unico-campeao-brasileiro-de-1987/#:~:text=O%20ministro%20Dias%20Toffoli%2C%20do,brasileiro%20de%20futebol%20de%201987.)

The STF (Supreme Federal Court) resolving issues about football is the face of Brazil. I understand the merit, but the situation and the arguments about who gets which title are quite funny.

They should never have taken legal action in this case, that's what sports justice is for... Now imagine if this becomes a pattern? all the teams that feel unfairly decided to take legal action... This is Brazil. zil zil...

Anyway, I think this Sport title is very unfair, because the CBF was unable to organize the 87 championship, which was the responsibility of the club of 13... And we all know the end of the story.

Yes, it really is something very unusual to see and something very Brazilian. But I think that if many teams follow this path, they will act to avoid this type of discussion as there is no point in discussing titles in court.

The 2024 Brazilian championship begins next month, and today is the last day of the transfer window, in the team you follow, are you satisfied with the squad? My team (Flamengo-RJ) made a lot of investments in this first window, an investment of almost 160 million reais in reinforcements: De la Cruz (River Plate-ARG), Matias Viña (Roma-ITA) and Léo Ortiz (Bragantino).

From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference

It like that because every major competition or championship in every country is always part of various business companies to be able to market their names and also this will bring in large amounts of money from every match because the stadium will always be full of fans from every team that competes.
Distribution will be arranged by the organizer and of course the winner will definitely get number of prizes that they deserve, if it just about the title and championship trophy then I sure every team won't have the enthusiasm to win it.
After all, this is one of the most prestigious football competitions or luxurious competitions in Brazilian football.

Seeing how Palmeiras has developed this season, I see that there is still chance for them to defend their title, if that opportunity is lost and they fail then at least runners-up can still be achieved.
But Palmeiras is playing quite well and they are still the only team that is very consistent with quite good performance this season, their condition is still the same as last season when they managed to become champions.

But hasn't this been going on for long time?
In reality, the controversy that arises cannot change anything and those who are in authority and have full rights over this competition can regulate it.
Moreover, Flamengo is also not stable team, even though they have also been champions of the Brazilian Serie A several times in the 2019 and 2020 season, but in reality we see that on paper Palmeiras is the best.

To tell you the truth, I'm very pessimistic, I support Corinthians, but the team is doing badly
They didn't even qualify for the Paulista championship, they've just changed coach and they still haven't managed to play well

If they continue playing like this, they'll be at the bottom of the championship and have no chance of at least making the top four to qualify for the Libertadores
I don't know how such a big team, with so much sponsorship money, can't get a competitive team

Who else here is pessimistic about the team for the Brasileirão?

I think the same about Corinthians. He is making coaching changes but it ends up having no effect. They haven't played well for a long time and at least they give me some confidence.

Flamengo went through a debt structuring and payment process that began with the administration of president Eduardo Bandeira de Mello in 2013, before it was a bankrupt team full of debt and now it is one of the richest clubs in South America. This change for more professional management resulted in Brazilian titles and 2nd place in the 2019 World Cup in the match with Liverpool.

All this time of instability is in the past, today are days of glory, always competing for titles, but without a doubt Palmeiras has done a little better, but it won't be forever (I hope so lol).

I believe that most of the problems facing Brazilian teams are amateur management and political conflicts within the club itself. I can't imagine anything else.

I believe that Corinthians has been in a bad phase for some time, or rather, in stagnation.
Well, at least in the last few years they have managed to remain in Serie A of Brasileirao and qualified for the group stage of the Copa Sul Americana and Libertadores qualifiers. Let's see if Corinthians' performance this year will get worse or better.

My team (Internacional) managed to "meet the target" of expected signings and I'm satisfied with what they did compared to the financial budget they had available for this season... R$ 75 million (Brazilian currency).

If I'm not mistaken, they signed more then 10 players to reinforce the team and, as expected, their stance for this season is to have a very offensive team. They got left of 13 players, but the change of players aded more quality to Internacional.... I'm expected :D

In 2023 the focus was on the Conmebol Libertadores, now in 2024 they will seek leadership of the Brasileirão, and I hope that this time they really achieve that instead of just being runners-up again.

Now, I'll wait and see how my team performs on the field.

Good coaches have come through Corinthians recently and none have worked out. Which makes me think that the problem is not so simple to solve


As I said above, I agree with you, I think the problem isn't just the coach or any player, but internal problems can affect the whole team a lot


Such a big team can't stay stagnant for so long
The good thing is that they weren't relegated like Santos, at least they stayed in Serie A, but it's been a long time since I've been excited about Corinthians in a championship

Yes, that's what I think too. But I'm worried because it's a great team and it's not performing as such. I can't imagine them winning anything again or even getting out of this current situation unfortunately.

Internacional invested a lot of money too, these current values of Brazilian football for me were something unimaginable 15/20 years ago, the vast majority of teams were bankrupt and full of debt... Revenue increased significantly compared to what it was in past...

A curiosity about Internacional, in Paraná (where I live), there are more Internacional and Grêmio fans than Atletico PR or Coritiba fans

Look, this is true! Well, if I'm not mistaken, there were still chances of Corinthians being relegated and going to second division of Brasileirao, but that almost didn't happen. Regarding Santos, they didn't have the same "luck" as Corinthians and were relegated.
I'm not a football expert, but analyzing the Brazilian scenario in a superficial way, I believe that Corinthians will hardly be able to be champions of this year in Brasileirao, if they perform well, I imagine they will have a chance of finishing in the top 10 of that championship.

Corinthians with the team they have is to compete for a place in CONMEBOL Sudamericana, perhaps with great luck a place in the CONMEBOL Libertadores, nothing more than that... Maybe something will change only if it has extra support from the field of our current president of the republic, who is a big Corinthians fan lol

I have to agree with you, there's no chance of the title, unless there's a miracle (which I think is difficult in this kind of championship based in points)


If the coach manages to get the team right, it is possible to try for a place in the Sudamericana, since last year even 14th place managed to get a place in the Sudamericana hehehe, almost all the teams did it  :P
Corinthians failed to qualify for this year's state championship, and now it's crucial that the team makes its final changes. The team has about a month to work on building a competitive side for the Brazilian championship

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I'm waiting for the end of the state championships to make my prediction for the 2024 championship
Will you do it too?

The same for me...
After all, there is almost a month left until the start of the Brasileirao.
I believe that with the results of the state championships we will already be able to have an idea of how some teams will perform in the Brazilian championship (Brasileirao).
In Paulistao (state championship in the state of São Paulo) we have Palmeiras, São Paulo and Bragantino in the Quarter Finals. I have no doubt that these teams I mentioned are great candidates to become Paulistao champions... and perhaps Brgantino could perform well in the Brasileirao and also Palmeiras...
And you guys? What are your bets?

I think it's very difficult to adjust the team in just 1 month, it takes months of work, it starts in the pre-season, so I believe the team will stay there without big aspirations in the championship, maybe it can even be in the top 10, at most.

I also wait for the state championships to end to get a sense of the team's potential as most use the state championships as tests for the team's experiments.

I can't wait for the Brasileirão to start soon to try to capture some money in the betting lol

And recently Brazilian football had a record number of foreign signings.

Brazilian football really seems to be very attractive to foreigners from South America

https://ge.globo.com/espiao-estatistico/noticia/2024/03/10/janela-de-transferencias-da-serie-a-tem-recorde-de-contratacoes-de-estrangeiros-veja-lista.ghtml

The same for me... I'm also looking forward to the start of the Brasileirao  :)
Although this year we will have some surprises from teams that had been unable to make it to Series A of the Brazilian championship (Brasileirao) for years.
I confess that I found these statistics of foreign players in Brazilian football very interesting, I didn't know that there was such a significant number of South American players playing in Brazil.

An interesting fact is that 30.7% of the foreign players who will play in the Brasileirao are Argentinians, a significant number.

source:Janela de transferências da Série A tem recorde de contratações de estrangeiros; veja lista (https://ge.globo.com/espiao-estatistico/noticia/2024/03/10/janela-de-transferencias-da-serie-a-tem-recorde-de-contratacoes-de-estrangeiros-veja-lista.ghtml)

Maybe they are fleeing Argentina's poverty and superinflation? I imagine so, as it is very advantageous for them to play in the neighboring country, they will be somewhat close to their family and they also receive payment in a currency that is not as devalued as the Argentine Peso. There are many good players there who wouldn't have a place in big European teams, so the natural thing is that they look for a competitive league, but not top tier. In this case, the Brasileirão.

Hmm... that might be a possibility and I haven't thought about it.
I don't know what the situation is like in Argentina and I also don't know if football has been greatly affected compared to the Argentine population, especially the poor.
In Argentina they still have great and well-known teams such as Boca Juniors, Racing, Independiente, River Plate and others.

But I agree with what you said, the "Brazilian Real" is a more valued currency than the "Argentine Peso" and I won't deny it, in Brazil there are several teams as good as in Argentina

Yes, that was before and now it can be said to be very different after Flamengo has the right team management and is truly able to bring about change for the better.
It very rare for team to really experience downturns and go bankrupt, but after several seasons they were able to recover with big changes and were even able to win the title, Flamengo showed how serious they were about achieving success.
They also experienced decline in performance after two seasons of being champions and this season Flamengo will still not be able to repeat the period of success in winning the title, maybe next season if they can fix some mistakes it could give Flamengo to the title again.

Honestly, now is not the right time to say that they have reached the glory days, and later when the competition starts we will be able to see whether Flamengo has really become success as you had hoped or not.
I would tend to make Palmeiras the favorite to defend the title this season.

All this professionalization that we see in Brazilian football began with the example of Flamengo's management, going back to the past in 2010-2011 Vanderlei Luxemburgo decided to take training to "Ninho do Urubu", a training center that would be a training place for young players from club, this place was practically just a piece of land, with precarious accommodation, which is how the idea of having a high-level training center began.

As Flamengo already owned the land, they only had to invest in infrastructure, this made a HUGE difference in attracting good players, as they would now have a European-class training center at their disposal. There where it all began, soon after Bandeira de Melo was elected president and the rest became history...

In short, it all starts from the inside out.

Is no one here talking about the women's Brasileirão?
This year I want to see discussions about this championship, which started today (March 15th).

The first games were marked by some draws...
Santos 1 x 1 Real Brasília
Ferroviária 1 x 1 Botafogo

This year, in the women's championship, I'm betting heavily on Flamengo, which has invested a lot in strengthening the team, the intention is to finally win the second championship after 8 years without winning.

And you, what are your bets for the women’s Brasileirão?

I believe that several teams have undergone some changes and I would include Flamengo on that list.
Flamengo is an excellent team, but it is still far from its potential, I see that it is slowly improving (talking about Brasileirao). At the end of the championship of the last year, he had several opportunities to go to 1st place, but that didn't happen and Palmeiras took advantage of the chance and became champions last year.
I also agree, I have no doubt that Palmeiras is the favorite to be champion of the Brasileirao in 2024, but I would include other teams such as Flamengo, which year after year has been improving its performance in the Brasileirao, the other teams are Gremio and Atlético-MG .
Of course, there are other teams that could surprise this year, I would dare to say, Bragantino, and even Internacional, but to have the answer to that, only the future can show us.

To be honest, I didn't know there was a Brazilian women's championship lol

Obviously I will support Flamengo... Are these games broadcast somewhere? TV? Streaming?


Bragantino has been having good campaigns, one day they will get there. Maybe even Botafogo, which now has a multimillionaire owner, could perhaps compete for the titles.

Although I still consider Palmeiras the big favorite, perhaps not as much as in previous years, but the team has been consistently winning titles in recent years and will always be a favorite.

I'm very excited about Tite's Flamengo, I want to see how it will behave in a long championship, which whoever is most consistent wins.

The other day I put together some information to compare the state champions with the Brazilian championship, to help in my long bet

7 times, or 70%, the Brazilian champion was also state champion

2014 - Cruzeiro -  - won Brasileirão and Mineiro
2015 - Corinthians - won Brasileirão
2016 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão
2017 - Corinthians - won Brasileirão  and Paulista
2018 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão
2019 - Flamengo - won Brasileirão and Carioca
2020 - Flamengo - won Brasileirão and Carioca
2021 - Atlético MG - won Brasileirão and Mineiro
2022 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão and Paulista
2023 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão and Paulista

I would like your opinion on the teams from the north and northeast. The most recent campaign that I currently remember is Fortaleza, which went very far. Furthermore, we have Bahia with strong foreign investment. In your view, are the north and northeast already able to compete with teams from the RIO SP axis?

Bahia, even with a lot of investment, needs consistency and a solid team, football in the northeast needs to have something that attracts good players, because what would lead a renowned player to go to the northeast rather than the south/southeast? money? some don't even need money that much... yes, a project, something besides money.

But what we see are just old players at the end of their careers cultivating money in these clubs... Diego Souza, Everton Ribeiro are examples.

I believe that all teams will have money and a good structure. Obviously, training centers will always appear in the South/Southeast. But I believe that to move forward it would be investing in talent and trying to maintain/invest as much as possible in structure, etc.

Yes, you are right and if most of the Brazilian team can do the same thing then there is big possibility that the Brazilian competition can really develop for the better because the competition can definitely be more competitive and of course it won't just be dominated by one or two team.
That way, more team will have the opportunity to win the competition and this will of course increase the investment funds that will come in.
However, on average, team do not dare to take steps with the risks involved because for change they need money that must be spent from the start of the improvement process.

But so far there are only few of my team and there are no more than 5 team so it can be said that the Brazilian football competition will indeed be far behind the competitions of European countries, it requires many things for change, one of which is resources which are the most influential support.
I also believe that they have the potential to win this competition, but I want to see later whether there is much better competition than last season or not.
What is clear is that I definitely want there to be big surprise this season even though I have made Palmeiras the most favorite team.

In my opinion, Ceará and Fortaleza are two teams that each year are managing to stand out more on the national scene among the "elite" of Brazilian football.
So, without talking about favoritism, I believe that they have a real chance of being in the top positions of the table at the end of the Brasileirão 2024.
However... win the Championshop!? I don't think so.

Unfortunately, these are the only two teams that I would still bet on, i believe that the northern region still lacks a lot of incentives and sponsors and this affects negatively these teams to qualify better on the national stage.

In this case, I think more about forming a good team for the future. They are on the right path, despite the regrets with Ceará. But with the advent of SAFs, I believe this can enhance teams more.

Guys, did you see the news that came out today? Gabriel Barbosa, AKA as Gabigol, Flamengo player was suspended for 2 years for trying to cheat the anti-doping test. The trial was today...

It's strange for an athlete to try to cheat anti-doping, right? If he hasn't done anything, he won't have to fear anything... That smells really bad to me.

Or from what I read in the news, the way he behaved, he is very stupid, a complete idiot lol  :D :D


https://ge.globo.com/futebol/times/flamengo/noticia/2024/03/25/gabigol-do-flamengo-e-supenso-por-dois-anos-por-tentativa-de-fraude-em-exame-antidoping.ghtml

https://oglobo.globo.com/esportes/noticia/2024/03/25/culpado-gabigol-pega-dois-anos-gancho-de-em-julgamento-por-infracao-antidoping.ghtml

This exam will have repercussions not only on their careers, but the titles and the team itself will be put on trial by fans of all teams.  It's sad not being able to trust a player who looked as good as he did.

I bet he won't be out of soccer for two years, especially playing for Flamengo hehe  :P
This whole situation of trying to cheat the exam is quite strange
As he wasn't actually caught in the anti-doping test, I think they'll be able to find a loophole so that he doesn't spend two years out of football

The player is 27 years old, and if the two-year ban is confirmed, he won't play again until he's 29

It may impact his performance but I believe they will be able to release him before those two years.  They will probably just let the dust settle and leave the media

From what I read, his suspension (if he doesn't get an appeal at CAS) would last until April 2025, it's because the trial took too long... Gabriel Barbosa's contract ends at the end of 2024, maybe he won't play for Flamengo anymore... .

But he won't be missed, lately Gabigol has been more of a celebrity than a player... We have Pedro, the best striker in Brazil.

I heard rumors that he would go to Corinthians.  I don't know for sure, but if it happens, he will suffer a lot wherever he goes and will need to prove himself even more.

Returning to talking about the women's championship, yesterday was a sad day for my Internacional, who lost 3-0 against Corinthians.
This was the fourth victory for Corinthians in this championship, as they continue with an excellent performance with 100% control and absolute leadership.
Honestly, I wasn't betting on a victory for the Colorados, but I was hoping to see at most a draw, and obviously I wasn't prepared to watch that rout.
Corinthians made a lot of mistakes at the beginning of the game and I even believed in a victory, but unfortunately Internacional didn't know how to take advantage of these opportunities.

Internacional still doesn't know what it means to win in this championship, but I hope they do better against Grêmio next Friday, this time playing at home.

Regarding women's football in Brazil, I confess that I'm not familiar with this modality, but how good are we compared to other countries to win a World Cup or international championships in general?

Yesterday was the first game of the Paulista final
Santos vs Palmeiras, and Santos won 1-0

The Brazilian championship in general is very different from other championships in the world, it's no wonder it's considered one of the most difficult championships in the world
Santos, who will be playing in the B championship this year, are playing very well, they won their first game against Palmeiras, who are practically the best Brazilian team at the moment, and are already ahead of Corinthians and São Paulo, who are in the A championship
It seems that only happens in Brazilian soccer haha
Did anyone bet on Santos at the start of the Paulista championship?

Football always surprises... I never imagined that Santos would get this far in this São Paulo championship, for me Santos was an endless crisis and would compete alongside the smaller teams...

I believe that the vast majority of people bet against Santos and lost money, of course. lol....

Will people bet on Santos now? I think any guess is very risky now... Palmeiras could come with full force... I don't know if Santos will be able to hold on to the advantage...

We have good reasons to believe that Palmeiras will win, but we also have good arguments for Santos, so I'm quite divided on this choice if I'm going to place a bet
I think I'll just watch, but I hope Santos win this title, Palmeiras have won enough lately  ;D

Yesterday I watched Corinthians vs Racing in the Copa Sudamericana
Very brief summary: Corinthians are in no position to even try for a Libertadores spot this year in the Brazilian championship  :-\

Given Santos' recent history, it is normal for everyone to bet against him. But I believe that each one will score at least one goal in the next game. Santos will enter calmly and will only react when they take the first from Palmeiras.

Serious? Is Corinthians really that bad? I haven't watched any of his games this year yet... Last week there was a friendly match between Corinthians and Londrina, close to the city where I live. I even thought about going, but decided against it at the last minute.


Palmeiras will come with everything, they will try to put pressure on the Santos team from the first minute of the game. They will try to score a goal early on to put on endless pressure, this final will be great. And I think it's totally unpredictable

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Guys, I created a topic about Libertadores 2024. Comment your opinions there too

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491382.msg63893937#msg63893937

That's right, Santos will unfortunately only react when they concede the first goal or are under a lot of pressure. The tendency is for Palmeiras to come with everything and take this game. The opposite is very unlikely to happen.

Yes, unfortunately it's true, Corinthians is going from bad to worse  :-[
I'm discouraged from placing my bets on Corinthians this year, I'm going to have to study very carefully so I don't lose money trying to believe in my team


I'm absolutely sure that the Palmeiras fans will fill the whole stadium and the pressure will be absurd, the team will start with full power and try to score a goal as soon as possible and make the match even
But I will root for Santos hehehe

I understand and agree. But I believe that Santos won't leave it that cheap, because if we already understand this, it's very likely that the coach has already understood it too and has a good strategy. At least that's what I hope hehe

At these times it's good to leave feelings aside and bet for reason, I'm going to wait at least 5 rounds to start getting an idea of the teams and finally make some bets, try to be as assertive as possible, even if to do so I have to support or follow teams that I hate lol

2024 season competition has not yet started and we will have series of difficulties if we only bet on some unclear matches such as friendly matches, even though it is favorite team that we like.
We have to learn from previous experiences where team that feels strong may not necessarily be able to compete according to expectations because there is no stability in the team performance during break like now.
We will be able to start later when the Brasileiro Serie A has actually started and of course it is clear who can always be relied on for betting options because the top teams in the last few seasons will always present matches that are easy to win.

Palmeiras will always be favorites in every match they will play and can add Atletico Mineiro if that is only betting option in this competition later.

Yesterday the CBF released the detailed table of the first games of the championship, with date, time and place where the games will take place.
These are the first matches:

Saturday -13/04

• Internacional (RS) X  Bahia (BA) - às 18h30 - Beira-Rio, Porto Alegre (RS)
• Criciúma X Juventude - às 18h30 - Heriberto Hulse, Criciúma (SC)
• Fluminense (RJ) X Red Bull Bragantino (SP) - 21h - Maracanã (RJ)
• São Paulo (SP) X Fortaleza (CE) - 21h - Morumbis (SP)

Sunday - 14/04

• Atlético (GO) X Flamengo (RJ) - 16h - Serra Dourada, Goiânia (GO)
• Vasco da Gama (RJ) X Grêmio (RS), 16h - São Januário, Rio de Janeiro (RJ)
• Corinthians (SP) X Atlético (MG) - 16h - Neo Química Arena, São Paulo (SP)
• Athletico (PR) X Cuiabá (MT) - 16h - Ligga Arena - Curitiba (PR)
• Cruzeiro X Botafogo (RJ) - 17h - Mineirão, Belo Horizonte (MG)
• Vitória X Palmeiras - 18h30 - Manoel Barradas, Salvador (BA)

This isn't the first time you've revealed details about your geographic location, and that's why I'm sure we live in very close cities. About this game... Corinthians played very well against Londrina at the "Snake's Stadium", I know this because I watched this match in person ;)

Wow, I was forgetting that the championship is about to start, I still have to run and make my predictions like I do every year
Last year I had good predictions, especially that Palmeiras would be champions, even though I thought for most of the championship that Botafogo would be champions  :P

I still need to watch the final matches of the state championships and in midweek they should announce some players in and out to finally compete in the Brasileirao
But I can tell you that Palmeiras should be among the four favorites again

And you guys, make your predictions, it's nice to compare them at the end of the championship  ;D

Man... so we're very, very close... Ahh... the old west, good place to live  :)... I don't know many bitcoiners around here, you're the first. Very cool to know that.

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Flamengo will play against Atletico-GO. 3 points guaranteed. I think it's practically impossible for Flamengo to lose this game. Now you just need to know the score to be the leader at least in goal difference, starting championship on the right foot (I hope)

And my Flamengo, who was state champion in 2024, the first cup of many! we're going to win everything this year, especially without GabiGOL lol.

Flamengo showed its superiority and beat Nova Iguaçu again with a 1-0 goal from Bruno Henrique.

Anyway, everything is normal in Rio de Janeiro. So, your teams? Are you happy or sad today?

It's nice haha, you team won but mine (Corinthians) did a horrible job until now  :D

In the Paulista, Palmeiras once again won the championship, it's incredible how many times the team has been champions recently
Today they managed to beat Santos 2x0 and secure the title, again
Flamengo and Palmeiras will certainly be mthe favorites for the Brasileirão title this year

A big highlight was young Endrick, who will be leaving Palmeiras for Real Madrid in the middle of the year. The player has helped Palmeiras a lot and will soon be leaving

Endrick is really a very good player, he will play in a great team that is the dream of many players. I just want to see how the coach will put together the Real Madrid team if Mbappe is also hired... the coach will have a lot of headaches getting everyone to play.

Palmeiras has really had incredible consistency in recent years, always a favorite.

It didn't go quite as I expected, Palmeiras really had a great strategy and ended up taking that one. But it was interesting to see the dispute on both sides, even though my bet wasn't right!

The sale of Endrick to Real Madrid will certainly affect the Palmeiras team. Right now the young player is an essential part of the team, and in July Palmeiras will no longer have him. This must certainly be taken into account when making predictions for the Brazilian championship
I'm thinking here, are Flamengo or Palmeiras the favorite this year?


Sorry for your loss, the game was very good, balanced to a certain extent, but Palmeiras playing at home made a big difference in winning the title. I wish Santos had won

What did you think of coach Tite's attitude towards giving the medal to Nova Iguaçu coach Carlos Vitor? I saw that they created some campaigns and offered help to "professionalize" Carlos with the CBF course.

Tite dá medalha de campeão carioca para técnico do Nova Iguaçu (https://www.band.uol.com.br/esportes/futebol/campeonato-carioca/videos/tite-da-medalha-de-campeao-carioca-para-tecnico-do-nova-iguacu-17238033)

I thought his attitude was really cool, he showed a lot of humility in recognizing the Nova Iguaçu coach's capabilities. I read the article, and Tite was very impressed with the football presented by the opposing team, even without the structure of a big club.


Coach Carlos Vitor must be very happy with the approval and gesture of nobility from Tite, who is already an established coach in Brazilian football.

I almost forgot my prediction list  >:(

1- Flamengo
2- Palmeiras
3- Fluminense
4- Bragantino
5- Sao Paulo
6- Gremio
7- Internacional
8- Corinthians
9- Atletico PR
10- Fortaleza
11- Vasco
12- Botafogo
13- Atlético MG
14- Criciuma
15- Cruzeiro
16- Juventude
17- Bahia
18- Cuiaba
19- Atletico GO
20- Vitória

It's very difficult to do because the Brazilian championship has more than six very strong contenders for the title

The international started the championship on the right foot!
Obviously, with the millionaire (billionaire!?) Internacional squad for this year, nothing less was to be expected than a victory against Bahia, however... this year I will not belittle any team, at least until we arrive halfway through the championship.

However, São Paulo's defeat surprised me, I was betting on their victory.
For today, another game that should be closely contested is Corinthians and Atlético Mineiro... I haven't decided on my bet yet, but what about you, what are your predictions?

Some information that can help: In the years in which they ended up champion (2005, 2011, 2015 and 2017), "Timão" did not lose in their debut: there were three wins and a draw. But... no one has yet said that Corinthians will win this year, right!?


Grêmio better placed than Internacional!? Not this year :P

Apparently you support Corinthians and also Internacional, right? why not support Atlético PR, Coritiba AKA "Coxa" or even Paraná Clube? lol

There was an article on GE about the predictions for the second round of the Brazilian Championship, what do you think?

https://ge.globo.com/sportv/central-de-palpites/noticia/2024/04/16/palpite-ge-2024-veja-as-apostas-de-apresentadores-e-comentaristas-para-a-2a-rodada-do-brasileirao.ghtml


Highlight the article for Cruzeiro, Criciúma, Vasco, São Paulo and Internacional which had zero votes (Atletico GO I didn't even consider)

This year I think it's easier for me to bet against my team Corinthians hahaha, I don't see a good future in this championship, with the team playing the way it's been playing


Don't get me wrong haha, but it's very difficult to try and predict the entire Brasileirao table
These intermediate positions are even more difficult to predict than the first and last, but I ended up putting Gremio ahead due to their better performance in this year's Gaucho championship

Doesn't anyone want to risk making one so we can compare at the end of the championship?

I've been a "Colorado" fan since I was born, my blood is red  ;D So, my passion and support for Internacional is undeniable.
However, after Internacional I really support Cascavel football club.

But Corinthians??? No, I'm not rooting for him, I just wanted to say that this would be a good game to watch on Sunday...
Unfortunately the game referee appeared more than the players, his performance in this match was regrettable and he handed out no less than 15 yellow cards. Fortunately, the CBF recognized the error and removed the referee from the game indefinitely so that he could undertake a "refresher course".

Anyway... Brasileirão has always been controversial, and the championship has just started. We will still have a lot of reason to cheer, cry and complain until the last round.

I gave up watching these predictions, I understood that football around here doesn't make any sense at all. Football is already difficult to predict, Brazilian football is even worse.

Hello my friends, I found you here and I intend to frequent this space from now on. My English is weak but I support the same team as Alegotardo hahahaha so I think I'll be welcome. Let's strengthen this Colorado fan base and see how he does today against Palmeiras. I saw that according to statistics our chance of victory is only 18%  :-[

Welcome to the thread @tg88
I didn't realize you were an Internacional fan, now you're 2 along with @alegotardo hahaha

As you're just starting out, start betting with smaller amounts so you can get a feel for what it's like. The Brazilian league is a difficult league, there are many surprising results and it's hard to see a hegemony in the league like in other leagues
Research has shown that the Brazilian championship is the most balanced and difficult in the world

If you need any tips, just ask

There will always be tears and complaints with the referees, I confess that I always expect the worst from referees lol

Even though VAR exists, there are always controversies involved, it's impressive.

FC Cascavel I think the t-shirt is very beautiful, any time I think about buying one as a souvenir, the yellow reminds me of BTC. If I'm not mistaken, there's even an official club store close to my work. I'll go there any time.



Welcome @tg88, we will have a lot to talk about here in this discussion, after all, the championship has just started... and for a change... Flamengo leading! lol, everything is normal, after all, the best team, best cast... let's be champions! ((I'm trying to be impartial  :D :D :D)

The Internacional did well, achieving an important victory away from home against Palmeiras (one of the favorites)

I watched the final part of the game yesterday, it wasn't easy to hold on to the result in the final minutes, but it worked and these were 3 difficult points that were achieved.

Second round practically finished and we had some results that were a little different from what was expected, rdluffy I noticed that Corinthians lost to Juventude yesterday and I believe that the low temperatures may have had a little influence on the team's performance... Yesterday was a very cold night here in the state of Rio Grande do Sul and I felt it a little too.

I've already lost any and all hope I have for Corinthians. And I'll say more, I think it's very difficult for any Brazilian team to win a world championship within the next 5 years. So, we are doomed to fight for “closer” titles.

I also believe that, it seems that the World Cup of clubs will become even more difficult to play, and as South American football leaves something to be desired in relation to Europe, if the clubs don't evolve, it will even become difficult for our braziliam selection to win a World Cup.

Is anyone here from Palmeiras besides me hehe? Guys, I'm completely new to this world of betting, how do you gain confidence to bet and also what strategies do you use in sports betting?

Of course, I won't always be able to bet in favor of my own team, right? No more just cheering heheh. Although the Abel Ferreira era is making Palmeiras one of its best glories.

Welcome my friends, I'm happy to see more Brazilians here.... the championship had already started and I thought no one else would show up to discuss strategies about the biggest Brazilian football championship.

Today I read some very interesting news about the audience for this championship... they are predicting that this year the Brasileirão will have a higher average audience than that of European football.
I already knew that Brazilians were passionate, but I didn't expect us to surpass the Europeans in terms of audience.

The average audience in Europe is 30 thousand, and last year the Brasileirão already had an average of 26.5 thousand spectators and the trend is that the number will continue to grow this year.

This is the source of the news: https://esporte.ig.com.br/parceiros/jogada10/2024-04-18/projecao-revela--media-de-publico-no-brasileirao-vai-superar-a-do-futebol-europeu.html (https://esporte.ig.com.br/parceiros/jogada10/2024-04-18/projecao-revela--media-de-publico-no-brasileirao-vai-superar-a-do-futebol-europeu.html)

Bet on what you know, like and understand. I believe this is a start. See how other public figures bet and try to create your own method and have the discipline to always follow it, never deviate from it.

These numbers always surprise me... Tickets to watch a big game don't cost cheap, they easily cost hundreds of BRL... This shows how passionate the Brazilian people are about football... In the past, the average attendance at stadiums Brazilians was very low, this movement has been happening exponentially, I believe that in a few years we will have the largest audiences on planet earth.

A few days ago I read a very interesting report, for the first time the Libertadores da América prize will be higher than the Champions League. I know that the focus of this topic is the Brazilian championship, but it's really cool to know this considering that there is a great chance of a Brazilian team winning this competition. Unfortunately, our team has no chance in this dispute this year.

R$ 114.4 million: Libertadores surpasses Champions League and becomes the most valuable final on the planet (https://br.bolavip.com/futebol/r-1144-milhoes-libertadores-supera-champions-league-e-se-torna-a-final-mais-valiosa-do-planeta)

These are big numbers but I always think about the quality of football, we are really good but we always sell the best to Europe. I think we are more of an eternal storehouse and that we won't have many relevant titles for a long time.

Wow, it's a huge prize
The last five champions have been Brazilian, and there's a good chance they will be again

There's a good thread to discuss about Libertadores here and I invite you to join: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491382.20
Next matches is 23 April

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I've already placed my bet on the winner of the Brazilian championship

But I haven't started betting on the games yet, I was more focused on other championships, but from now on I'm going to start, I've already made my bankroll

Internacional has started on fire this season and I was a fan of the team many years before when I was following this league every single game played.They started by taking out Palmeiras,the reigning Champions in their own home and they also won the second game,they are the only team together with Fluminense with 6 points,however Fluminense has not convinced me with their game play they have conceded goals while Internacional has only conceded one and even that was unlucky I must say.I know it is still to early to think about a possible future Champion for the Brazilian Serie A yet I am thinking that the sun can be spotted early in the morning.

I don't really believe in FLuminense this year, I think the Libertadores title they won last year was pure luck, the club is very disorganized and this ends up reflecting on the team's performance.

Today we have good games, Flamengo x Palmeiras and Atletico PR x Internacional and the Bahia x Vitória.

These games are very difficult to identify a winner, Flamengo and Palmeiras have equal chances, Internacional is at a disadvantage for playing on synthetic grass and the other is a state classic, where anything can happen

Another Internacional fan hahaha  :D

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This is the league table so far
When we say that the Brazilian championship is the most balanced in the world, some people don't believe it
Nobody has won all 3 matches

And my team Corinthians is going from bad to worse, I'm seriously thinking of placing bets against the team, I think I can get good results

The biggest fans here at bitcointalk are for Internacional, I really didn't expect that.  ;D

The Brazilian championship is really very balanced, this weekend there was everything for Inter to come out with the victory and stay at the top of the table, they played much better and hit the post with 2 balls but in the end they lost 1-0.

Agree, how can we improve if there are always greater financial incentives for rising superstars to play for European clubs and other big clubs on other continents? Our passion for football is the greatest in the world, this is reflected in the World Cup, where we have the biggest titles.

Palmeiras is lucky to have Abel Ferreira and a great administrative management that takes good care of the money. But even so, this is no guarantee that the club will win more titles this year, especially the Brasileirão. But nothing surprises me anymore.

Does anyone here watch the commentator 'Craque Neto'? This guy, despite exaggerating some things, always says what not everyone wants to say and I laugh at his comments.

If we look at the past, I believe that great stars spent more time here than the current stars, right? Or am I mistaken? I believe that the longer we keep these people here, the better it will be to promote football for everyone, as we are the best on this side of the globe, but on the other side there is an Arab injecting infinite money.

Competition has started and Botafogo performed quite well by getting 2 wins, what makes it interesting is that in 3 matches they have managed to have 8 goals after big win over Juventude with score of 5 - 1.
It looks like we will see competition at the start of the competition which is quite interesting and of course there will be many unexpected surprises that can occur because they are all in fit condition at the start of the competition.
But it was quite shame for Palmeiras because they had to suffer draw against Flamengo and this draw meant that Palmeiras could not be in comfortable position in the standings.

However, it is still early days and there will be many things in the future, maybe Palmeiras and Flamengo will be the team that can dominate the competition because they have pretty good chance of fighting for the title.

I think it was a good result for Flamengo in the game against Palmeiras, a draw at the opponent's stadium I consider very good, it's 1 point that could make a good difference in the future of the championship.

There is still a lot to happen, what can most harm the teams in this championship is the transfer window, I don't know why they haven't put the dates of the Brazilian championship together with the European championships yet, this has always caused a lot of problems for the Brazilian teams, the good players usually leave in the middle of the championship.

If look at how the competition between the two was quite good because they played fiercely and they were careful enough to avoid defeat, but in the end draw could not be avoided.
Hahaha in that match I lost small amount of money because I made Palmeiras the favorite, but this is still just the beginning for them and in the future it will be much more challenging competition.

Well, that the problem that has been happening all this time, they don't have the same schedule and when several European League competitions are almost finished and the transfer window has opened, the Brazilian competition is just starting.
Maybe in the future there will have to be improvements, but if that is done then the Brazilian competition will have to take break for almost full season to be able to manage the same time.

This has always been a complaint from fans, after all nobody likes to see the best players leave during the championship.

If the CBF one day changes the Brazilian calendar, other competitions could fill the space of time, they would have to change all the championships, such as the Copa do Brasil, the state championships... This will eventually be very necessary, a global standard of football tournament calendars, it would even help to better fit national team matches without missing players out on clubs.

What do you think of this controversy about VAR in the Brazilian championship?

Kajuru defends stopping Brasileirão after suspicions against VAR... (https://www.poder360.com.br/congresso/kajuru-defende-paralisar-brasileirao-apos-suspeitas-contra-o-var/)

I saw this news yesterday, some people are arguing that the championship should be stopped until the investigations are completed. I think the investigations need to continue but the championship cannot be stopped like this, that would be extremely bad for the teams and athletes.

It really is quite complicated, I always see people complaining about VAR and rightly so, because in theory everything was supposed to work with 100% accuracy, after all, they have a whole technological structure to help with decisions, several cameras, replays, etc. ..

But I don't really agree with stopping the championship, it will harm everyone, I'm in favor of removing the people involved in this and investigating the allegations. If corruption in the VAR is proven, eternal banishment for those involved. And the game continues.

In my travels on the internet I found this information about BETS investment in our beloved Brasileirão. From what was gathered, the championship is dominated by betting companies, where the amount invested practically exceeded all the investment made in the last 7 years in just over 1 year.

What is your opinion? Do you believe it is something healthy for the championship? Is this money from houses really helping the teams or just raising the investment level?


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Flamengo 0 - 2 Botafogo

days ago I had already commented in another post that this Flamengo coach and this squad do not give me confidence that this season they will be able to become champions, and with Flamengo's defeat in this game against Botafogo I confirmed that I am right, I know that it is still The beginning of the league has a lot of games but, looking at Flamengo, you don't need to wait for the end of the league to know that this season they won't be champions. In that game against Botafo, Flamengo failed to score at least 1 goal and conceded 2 goals, leaving Botafogo at the top of the league. Maybe we will see the same joke as last season in which Botafogo led the league for many rounds and towards the end Palmeiras took the lead and became champions

And Vasco hein? After the defeat, the game score was not posted on social media. It really was something that no one expected, but perhaps this weight must have affected the players and ended up like this. Sad.

Wow, half a billion of brazilian Reais in bet sponsors  :o :o :o

Bookmaker sponsorship is a worldwide trend, not just here in the Brazilian league
The main leagues have sponsors from the betting industry

In my opinion, it's effective marketing, since Brazilians mostly bet on soccer, and I'm sure that fans give preference to the brand that is sponsoring their team
But I'm still amazed by the amount of Corinthians' sponsorship, 120 million reais is a very high amount of money

From what was found and the most recent I discovered, 75% of all master sponsorship of Brazilian clubs is made up of betting companies, mainly sports… https://www.lance.com.br/lancebiz/mercado-do-esporte/brasileirao-tem-75-dos-clubes-com-patrocinio-master-de-casas-de-apostas-veja-excecoes.html.amp

The Brazilian government, in order not to miss the opportunity, already wants to tax the sports betting market, causing the biggest clubs in the country to come together to demonstrate against this measure, as severe taxation makes the sector unviable: https://www.poder360.com.br/esportes/clubes-se-manifestam-contra-mp-que-taxa-casas-de-apostas/

The government cannot see anything prospering and generating wealth that already comes with a handful of dirty fingers wanting a piece of the pie... this way of collecting money from people is a shame, it is infinite taxation... if only it were used for the well-being of the population... but no... it is used for one's own benefit and currency to exchange influence.

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Gabriel Barbosa, AKA “Lil Gabi” (ridiculous, right?  :D :D) is back after getting a stay in court. Well, I thought the punishment was a bit exaggerated, now I hope he behaves better, because I think they did it just because he's an annoying little star

Yes, and news has just come out that complements this very well. Brazilians made more bets than traditional investments (https://www.seudinheiro.com/2024/financas-pessoais/as-bets-venceram-14-dos-brasileiros-fizeram-aposta-online-em-2023-julw/#:~:text=As%20bets%20venceram%3F-,14%25%20dos%20brasileiros%20fizeram%20aposta%20online%20em%202023%20%E2%80%93%207%20vezes,a%C3%A7%C3%B5es%2C%20Tesouro%20Direto%20ou%20previd%C3%AAncia&text=Mesmo%20com%2030%20anos%20de,de%20poupan%C3%A7a%20ainda%20%C3%A9%20baixo.). So, it's normal for there to be all this lobbying and all this money involved. It's a very good and promising market here.

A few years ago, I didn't know anyone who bet on
And last year several friends and  colleagues were placing bets on soccer
Many of them got to know it because of the advertising for the Brazilian championship and others because of the advertising of other friends

It's very easy, just download an APP, deposit and that's it, you don't need anything else
The betting industry has evolved so that the experience is simple, even more so with PIX in Brazil up and running, you can do it all in just over 5 minutes

Yes, I didn't bet myself and started betting a few years ago. However, I recognize that several people entered this world recently, up to 4 years ago. And this is largely due to PIX and the ease of betting and depositing.

Pix brings enormous ease to anything that involves sending fiats to places, I think that soon the government will decide to put some tax on pix for common people...

Sports betting used to be based solely on "bolões de bar" (I have no idea how this name translates) found all over the country... in the region where you live, there are also "bolões"

Anyone thinking about betting on the Corinthians x Fortaleza match or at least following this game?

I believe that Corinthian has the advantage and is more "calm" after winning the last two matches, they were matches with very significant scores... 3 to 0 against Fluminense and "an upset" against América-RN, in the third phase of the Brazil's Cup.

Some say that Corinthians' behind-the-scenes actions could negatively affect the result of the game, as Rubens Gomes' departure from the club's board of directors could have consequences for Augusto Melo's management. It will be!? For now I don't see any reasons that justify this.

Speaking of Fortaleza, I wouldn't bet on them :P even after their draw against Red Bull Bragantino in the last round of the Brasileirão and having one more point in the table than Corinthians.

Anyway... Corinthians may lose again (which I would like), but I believe they will win again and "say goodbye" to the bad phase.


I don't know if this exists outside of Brazil, but i would try "sweepstake bar"

Yes, there is no doubt that pix helped with many things that we now accept and use very well, especially in betting. I remember only having to send money during business hours and on the weekend, I didn't even think about it, I often had to use crypto.

But about taxes, I don't think there is.

Even though I support Corinthians, I don't have a good guess for this game, and to tell you the truth, I'm not even sure what my analysis of the team is at the moment
After losing several games in a row and being in a crisis, even the great goalkeeper Cássio had problems, the team beat Fluminense and América RN in the Copa do Brasil
There's a lot of instability and it's hard to make an analysis like that.
Fortaleza are another difficult team, they're doing very well in the Sudamericana but are doing badly in the Brazilian championship

This is a game I'm only going to watch hehehe, if you bet on this match, let us know the result

The game was 0-0, the worst score that can exist lol, this even reminds me of the time I went to the Palmeiras stadium, in 2008, AKA Jardim Suspended.... I went to see the round of 16 of the Brazilian Cup, Palmeiras Vs Sport ... 0-0... sad, paying a ticket and not seeing a single goal  :-\.

currently as I write this post palmeiras is playing against cuiaba and is winning, but they only managed to score just 1 goal even though they are playing against cuiaba who in the last 3 games they have not won in any game, they come to this game with a sequence of 3 consecutive defeats, as there are still at least 20 minutes left before the game ends, and it is possible that Palmeiras will be able to score the second goal that would guarantee them victory in that game. Palmeiras last season didn't start the league very well but ended up champions, I wonder if history will repeat itself

because to be honest, the other Brazilian teams don't think they will be able to become champions, botafofo was the big joke last season and maybe it was even a joke around the world because they had a big points advantage in the table, but even so they started to lose in games to the point of being caught up by many teams and were below position 3, that was a shame and something very difficult to see happen in many leagues, this season they are currently at the top, they are playing at that exact moment when I write this post of mine and they are tied, if they really end up tied, then I see palmeiras moving from their current position to a top position.

Botafogo was a work of chance last year, the team isn't great... Although now they have money and an owner, but they don't have any structure to be able to keep playing with quality throughout the championship.

Regarding the Palmeiras game, he won, 2x0 over Cuiabá. The championship will be between two or three teams there to compete for the title, the Brazilian championship is becoming very predictable, Palmeiras is the team to beat this year.

It looked like the game of two teams that are doing badly in the Brazilian championship, in fact
An uninspiring game, no goals and no hope for Corinthians again
In 5 games the team has only scored 5 points

I didn't bet on this game, because as I said in the previous post, I didn't have a very good guess
And to tell you the truth, I shouldn't have even watched this game, 1.5 hours of my life wasted  :P

Well, he's keeping a good average of points, 1 per game  ;D... coming to the end of the championship he'll fall to the second division with this performance... I personally would love to see Corinthians playing in the second division again  :D :D...

Well, I still don't feel confident in betting, I'll wait until maybe the 10th round of matches to see better how the teams will behave... then maybe I'll start betting some money

Slowly as time goes by the match continues and we can see that Palmeiras is improving their points tally by minimizing losses.
They started playing well even though they had to lose one at the start and also drew against Flamengo and Sao Paulo, but that didn't matter because draw also gave an additional point, even if it was only one.
Top of the standings only has 10 points and Palmeiras has 8 points, this is fairly small difference and this is also the start of the competition so there is still plenty of time for Palmeiras to win it all.

I think the competition in the future will definitely be very interesting, in fact this can make the competition much better than the previous season.
Next week Palmeiras will face Athletico Paranaense who are currently at the top of the standings and this is sure to be quite fierce match.

What will make the difference are the details, like, scoring points playing at home, trying to take points from direct opponents, goal difference... There's still Endrick who will leave in July, I want to see how this team will behave. Palmeiras without this player... And there are possible transfers of players in the middle of the year too, when the negotiation window opens... perhaps only after the middle of the championship can we have a real idea of which teams can really be capable of winning the championship.

It's not impossible to drop to Serie B with the current Corinthians team.
Changing coaches, players unhappy, fans unhappy too with the team...just problems at the moment

Brasileirao is like that, you'll never feel confident enough to bet hahaha, it's quite difficult even when the teams are more consistent
I still believe that Palmeiras and Flamengo will be the best teams in the championship

What is your opinion regarding only the teams from Rio Grande do Sul being left out of the Brasileirão, will it harm the competition? Is something correct? I wanted to understand your opinion here. Well, I believe it hasn't stopped yet because there are precisely the bets we talked about here previously.

It's a VERY difficult decision to make, because whatever it is, it will affect a lot of things
I think it would be wise to hold a meeting with all the teams participating in the Brazilian championship, and take a vote on what action to take

In addition to the lack of condition of the stadiums and the compromised infrastructure, there is the factor that practically everyone in the state is affected in one way or another, their families at risk, people involved in aid etc.
A very unfortunate situation

I doubt Corinthians which is one of the great teams of Brasileirao to go down in Serie B that easily.I know that when the players are unhappy they can do whatever they want to get the desired outcome for them not caring much for the team.If you remember some years ago in Germany the best team there Bayern kept losing games until the coach was fired as they were not happy with him.So anything can happen based on what players feel like doing.

Apparently they will only pause the games of the affected teams. But in my opinion they will have to have a lot of time after everything is over to be able to return, precisely so that they can get back in shape and focus on the competition. But, in other times I'm sure they would have stopped the championship.

A very sad and very complicated situation for the people of the state of Rio Grande do Sul, I read that some teams from São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro offered their training centers and stadiums to the teams that were damaged by the floods, they may accept , this would at least keep them in good physical shape, but the psychological shock is something that cannot be forgotten, many players, friends and family lost everything... I think it is a good decision to leave the games for later, at least the players and staff of clubs will be able to focus on resolving the personal problems caused by the tragedy.


This is actually very common in football, when the team is dissatisfied with the management, they do everything to overthrow the coach or whoever. Players have enormous strength... they could use it for good (winning games)  ;D

I just read on a sports news that the CBF is studying the possibility of suspending all Brasileirão games, not just the games of teams that were directly affected by the flood. In fact, this request is coming from the Ministry of Sports, which formalized this request to the CBF today.

Regarding other teams giving up their stadiums for training, I also think this is unlikely to happen. An example is the decision of Grêmio's coach, who has already ruled out the possibility of leaving Rio Grande do Sul amid the chaos to continue competing in the Brasileirão Championship.

In any case, a general strike would also negatively affect other clubs that depend on ticket money to cover their monthly expenses, but perhaps this is a way of showing more solidarity with the "gauchos", while also making a bit of sacrifice.

It ends up being a situation where if it is suspended all games will have to honor the sponsors. However, if this becomes too clear, sponsors could be canceled by the networks.

And in relation to the training center, most of the players do not accept leaving the state with him in that situation.

Renato Gaúcho, Grêmio coach, was one of the first to leave, he is in Rio de Janeiro...

I agree with a stoppage of the Brazilian Championship, it doesn't make sense, only the teams from Rio Grande do Sul have their games postponed, a stoppage of the championship is now the best option, at least for a few weeks.

Corinthians lost another match, this time to Flamengo 2x0
When Corinthians are doing badly, everything is more difficult because I would say that the team's fans are one of the hardest to deal with
It doesn't take long for threats to be made against the players, accusations against the directors and managers, etc

The situation is not good, so far there are 6 games and only 5 points, I'd say they need a miracle to at least qualify for the Libertadores

I'm glad I didn't bet on Corinthians this round  :-[

I would say that clearly they are not in top form yet they are not far from the first place and we are just in the beginning of the Serie A with just 6 games played.I think it can also be related to not having started with the right foot this season Serie A yet I think that this kind of start can be had to any big team and not just Corinthians.I think the fans need to be a bit more patient and losing to Flamengo at home of Flamengo is not the end of the world for the simple reason that Flamengo is fighting for the title this season and this lost game should not be seen as something very bad,it i just a lost game,a normal occurrence for any team,including big ones.Let's wait a couple of games more and if they keep losing like another 2-3 consecutive games then I think it is enough to judge them as in very bad shape.

It's hard to say something about this matter being outside of the reality they are facing. If they decide to keep the games as scheduled it seems insensible, because people will say money is talking louder than the suffering people are facing in Rio Grande do Sul, including the members of the clubs from that region. On the other hand, if games are postponed and the whole national industry stops temporarily, many other professionals will suffer as well, because the industry won't generate income to pay their wages.

There isn't an easy answer for this question. Maybe it's interesting to postpone games for a while (maybe few weeks or a month), but nothing beyond that seems reasonable, considering all the other negative impacts it's going to have over everyone else benefited directly or indirectly by soccer industry in Brazil.

The idea of leaving the flooded region to train and practice in the area of another club, which has volunteered a stadium or training arena for southern clubs is a good alternative, though.

Yes, he was one of the first but he is 61 years old. I don't see him doing this more manual work on the front line. So it makes sense for him to leave town, to support what happened in another way. Or campaign for the championship to be postponed.

But it's just his way of doing nothing, that always comes to mind.

The situation is very complicated for Corinthians, even goalkeeper Cássio has become a reserve, an idol of the fans... At least they gave some relief to coach Tite, who is already questioned a lot in the Flamengo team.

Another result that surprised me was Atlético PR's victory over Palmeiras in São Paulo, I didn't expect that result, that's very good, the fewer points Palmeiras scores, the better  8)

Rumors are already circulating about goalkeeper Cassio going to Cruzeiro on a three-year contract
It could be true and even though I support Corinthians, I think it could benefit everyone, because it's about time Corinthians had a new goalkeeper with longevity in mind and Carlos Miguel is waiting for his chance, and if it's not now, the goalkeeper could become dissatisfied and even leave the club to be a starter elsewhere. So the time is now

About Palmeiras losing the points I liked it too haha, I watched a bit of the Athletico PR match and the team is very good for this season, if it continues like this it could be a good candidate to be among the first, so far, Bahia and Athletico PR have surprised me the most

Atletico 0 - 1 Cruzeiro

The results of yesterday's games didn't surprise me much. Cruzeiro who played against Atletico managed to win, but Cruzeiro's victory was an expected victory taking into account Atletico's poor performance in the last 4 games, Atletico in the last 4 games did not win in any game, they had 3 defeats and 1 draw and are in the relegation zone. while Cruzeiro's performance in the last 4 games was a stable performance, with 2 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat and occupying a good position in the table. That's why I'm not surprised by this cruise victory. now Atletico needs to worry about this:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/05/13/1MwTH.png

although the league games are still in their infancy, I still think that Atletico should be very concerned about the position they occupy in the table, they still haven't had any victories since the league games started and we are talking about 5 games that have been played So far, being in the relegation zone in the first 5 league games is not a good way to start the league in my opinion

Bahia 1 - 0 Bragantino

This is also not a result that surprises me, considering the good performance that the Bahia team is having in these first 6 league games and looking at the performance of Bragantino, who in the last 4 games had 2 draws and 2 wins, so Bahia's victory, which in the last 4 games had 3 wins and 1 draw, doesn't surprise me. With this victory, Bahia is in second place in the table

Palmeiras 0 - 2 Athletico

This is a result that doesn't surprise me, despite Palmeiras being last season's champion, in these first league games, they seem like they haven't woken up, they're not playing well. In this game, for example, the Athletico player had a red card in the 67th minute and even so, Palmeiras were unable to take advantage of this situation and score a goal, and it's really sad that not even with the opponent playing with just 10 players, Palmeiras couldn't score 1. goal. But it is possible that Palmeiras will wake up later when the league is halfway through and become champions, just like last season

A 3-year contract for a 36-year-old player like Cassio is even interesting, especially since he is now on reserve, it would be interesting to breathe new air at another club.

I saw that Cruzeiro also tried to bring goalkeeper Fabio back, I I went to see his age and it was quite impressive, the goalkeeper is 43 years old and is the starting goalkeeper for the Fluminense team, he turned down Cruzeiro's offer because he was grateful to the team for renewing his contract until 2025...

I personally think that the Bahia team will be one of the good teams this year, they have good players, like Everton Ribeiro... Let's wait for the new chapters of the championship :D

I believe Cassio will come out soon. However, with Tite being increasingly tipped to leave Flamengo, I believe it would be a good idea to wait and see Tite's hype again at Corinthians. If he returns, I believe he will renew the team's energy even in defeat.

It seems like things are all falling into place, Tite leaving Flamengo, Jorge Jesus leaving Al-Hilal... Anyway, I really wanted this to happen, I can't stand being embarrassed anymore supporting Flamengo... the bullying against us is heavy lol  :D :D :D

This is the updated table after São Paulo's game yesterday:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/05/14/1RdZd.png

The table is going to be very irregular because of the games of the RS teams.
There are teams that have already played 6 matches and there are teams that have played 3. It's going to be very difficult to analyze this season correctly.

For us bettors, it's also going to be very difficult to make a good profit, it's been 6 rounds and I still can't analyze properly to make good bets  :P

Has there been any news about the break in the Brazilian championship? I particularly hate it when just one team or the other has fewer rounds, everything gets so confusing...

And apparently Vasco da Gama will compete in the championship at the bottom of the table, there are teams that no longer have a solution, not even with money...

And the good thing about this is that everyone wins, at least now. Jorge leaves as a champion in Arabia and arrives at Flamengo with a huge salary and Corinthians will have their beloved coach back. If they don't perform as expected, that's another matter.

Apparently Tite is still going on, this soap opera will drag on until the middle of the year when Jorge Jesus' contract ends, the truth is that he should never have left Flamengo, he was happy in the team and the team was happy with him. It was a wrong choice in my opinion.

And apparently, the Brazilian championship will be stopped for two rounds, what did you think of that?

Yes, that's right, the news is official
link HERE (https://ge.globo.com/rj/futebol/brasileirao-serie-a/noticia/2024/05/15/cbf-suspende-duas-rodadas-do-brasileirao.ghtml)
Although it's a stoppage, in my opinion it's a quick one, because 2 rounds is the same as only 1 week, I don't know if 1 week is enough for the RS teams to adapt to the new situation, there's a lot of things to do

The other competitions continue as normal, such as the Copa do Brasil, Sudamericana and Libertadores
Remembering that in a few weeks' time the Copa America will start and supposedly there will be a stoppage of soccer, let's see how things unfold, but I think the stoppage is valid, after all these are people who have been affected and the situation is too sad

Speaking of sad things, today is a day of mourning for all football fans in Brazil, unfortunately we lost 3 people who were icons in their roles:

Silvio Luiz - legendary narrator
Antero Greco - sports presenter for ESPN channels
Washington Rodrigues (aka Apolinho) – radio host and sports journalist

I grew up watching games with Silvio Luiz, I watched the SportCenter program a lot with Antero... and Apolinho was also very good, creator of the famous catchphrases: "chocolate", "dick in the trash" and many others...


 :'( :'( :'(

I think this was the right decision, but it should have come much earlier.
The whole of Brazil is already mobilized to help or at least show solidarity with the catastrophe in Rio Grande do Sul, its regrettable that CBF took so long to understand that in fact football is the least of the priorities at this moment and that the lack of teams from Rio Grande do Sul has an impact on the entire championship, not just on the teams that were "directly affected".

The saddest thing about all this is the mocking words that CBF representatives used at the meeting to comment on the situation... If it was just physical damage to the structure of a club, that would be fine... but we are talking about thousands of families who lose everything and some hundreds who lost their lives.
I feel ashamed that we have people like this as representatives of the highest entity in Brazilian football

These were really big losses for the sport. I am saddened by the great loss in the narration of Silvio Luiz, an incomparable person.

Regarding the championship stoppage, from what I saw there were three or four teams that were opposed, the vast majority were in favor. It is important to see who is opposing it and the reasons too...

The CBF has always been an entity that hindered more than it helped, it is no wonder that its former presidents went to jail or faced several legal proceedings.

The way they speak, there really is no empathy at all, perhaps they only made this decision to postpone due to external pressure from society and clubs... We have to think that in addition to the players, there are family members, friends, acquaintances, employees. . a lot of people linked to the teams directly and indirectly... The psychological shock is very strong, after all, it was one of the biggest tragedies in the history of Brazil.


Which teams opposed the postponement of matches?  :o

According to this article they were:  (https://www.uol.com.br/esporte/futebol/ultimas-noticias/2024/05/15/clubes-que-pediram-suspensao-brasileirao.htm#:~:text=A%20CBF%20informou%20que%20os,Paulo%20e%20Red%20Bull%20Bragantino.)

Corinthians
Flamengo
Palmeiras
São Paulo
Red Bull Bragantino.

The justification of the first four was that:

"The first four encouraged campaigns in favor of flood victims in the South, but had spoken out for leaders who thought they could help more with the continuation of the Brasileirão"

It's incredible to see that the teams with the biggest fans are going against it. This could end up very bad in the future, especially related to sponsorship and cancellation on social media.

It's such a complicated situation that it's hard to imagine for those of us who aren't there
In addition to the players, you have to consider all the workers who are involved with the clubs, such as the coaching staff, medical department, physiotherapists, staff, etc., who, in addition to themselves, also have to worry about family members and friends who may be in risky situations

They don't seem to have realized the seriousness of the situation enough to say that they are against the stoppage

It's very easy for players and club presidents who earn high salaries to travel and leave RS if necessary, but we have to think about all the people who make up the clubs and provide the conditions for playing soccer.

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Are you making any bets on the Brazilian Cup?
Because it's going to continue and there's a game on the 21st

I don't follow this year's Copa do Brasil much, it would be really cool to have a discussion thread about this championship... How about you create one so we can talk about it? I support this idea! After all, it is one of the oldest and most renowned tournaments in Brazilian football.

Yes, there is this very big one. But, I believe it does not affect the payroll, because if the team does not have cash for free payments for at least 3 months, this team really needs to review its finances, otherwise it will go bankrupt at any moment.

If you want to create it, I'll join in because I bet on the Copa do Brasil too
I don't know if there will be much posts or if it's better to post it here
Whatever you prefer, I'll support it heheh

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I'd like to ask you a question
How do you think CBF will manage to reschedule the matches of the RS teams?
Do you think it will negatively affect all the teams, or will the RS teams suffer more and be more affected?

It's true, look at the Libertadores thread, it's not very busy, so I think one of the Copa do Brasil will be quiet too... after all, this championship is best known only to Brazilians, almost no one from outside the country cares much.


Regarding the games of the teams from Rio Grande do Sul, I don't think we will have major problems, just another psychological shock, we have had games rescheduled in the past, the problem is stopping for a long time and having to end the championship in January 2025

Regarding the games of the RS teams, the ideal would be to restart with the teams that were playing while the RS teams were stopped, so they will have more time to get back into rhythm and play at equal levels or at least be on the same page.

But it's basically time that all teams really need

Gabigol (AKA LIL GABI) achieved yet another feat in his art of doing shit... he posted a photo wearing a Corinthians t-shirt, at first the player's staff said it was a montage, but he soon assumed he did it... Anyway: he was fined and lost Flamengo's number 10 shirt...

I just think that Gabriel Barbosa has serious mental problems?

Gabigol reminds me a lot of some players who have had problems off the field, like Adriano (ex-Flamengo, São Paulo, Inter Milan and the Brazilian national team), who has enormous potential but makes a lot of mistakes

Let's make a bet  ;D
Which team will he go to?

My bet would be on Corinthians (maybe São Paulo  ???)

It could also be that he is trying to please coach TITE, who we all know is one of the biggest Corinthians fans of all time... it could be that kind of flattery for the boss lol  :D

But to bet on a team, I think it's easier for him to go to Palmeiras in first place, and Corinthians in second place, but it will be difficult for him to have a salary equal to what he receives at Flamengo

What's wrong with wearing your opponent's shirt? He probably got it from a dear friend, thought the shirt was nice and thought this was a good day to wear it :P

This reminded me of a time when me (Colorado) and my father (Gremista) made a bet: Whoever lost would have to wear the opponent's shirt for an entire weekend... Obviously it was me who lost the bet :D

But, going back to talking about Gabigol... he could have changed his look before wearing the Corinthians shirt, because I don't understand why after years he removes his traditional beard and now wears this ridiculous goatee, even if I were a look-alike would have the courage to replicate this "style".

In fact... he must be looking for a new team.

He is using the look of his second profession: singer.. the famous and incredible LIL GABI, if you don't know it, I highly recommend it (after listening, you need to detox your brain)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-dt-5H2eV8

I also think he's looking for a new club, his contract expires at the end of the year and Flamengo will probably want to pay less than what he receives today... in fact, nothing more than fair, right? He hasn't played anything at all for a long time.

Gabigol experienced very significant decline in performance from season to season and he had serious problems.
Gabigol is also player for the Brazilian national team for the 2022 World Cup after his performance with Flamengo was very competitive as striker but all that was not enough because when he played for the Brazilian national team he did not play as well as when he was with Flamengo.

In the future, maybe he won't be player for Flamengo and I agree that the team that will be interested in him are lower team, but if it really is Sao Paulo then that would be much better because Sao Paulo itself is one of the strong team that has the opportunity to win the competition.
But considering how the quality of the game is getting worse and has had serious problems, perhaps Sao Paulo will not be interested in bringing him.

Gabigol's biggest problem is behavioral, he has some very questionable attitudes on several occasions, I don't know if a different club hiring him is a good idea, as he is totally random... He is a kind of Neymar made worse in terms of wanting being a celebrity... He currently earns one of the highest salaries in Brazilian football, a salary that only Flamengo and Palmeiras are currently able to pay...

If he did this to want to leave Flamengo, he made a big mistake because it only made him lose his status as a great player at the club. Many people rate him as the club's top 4. So doing this as a tantrum to get out just shows how immature he is

He likes to draw attention, the problem with anti-doping wasn't enough... sometimes Gabriel Barbosa thinks he's untouchable, and when he goes to the bench he starts to have these childish attitudes... You can't win the starting "Screaming" or acting crazy with these attitudes, this shows how immature he is.

Yes, this type of attitude only shows how psychologically unprepared he is. I imagine him in important games, like the World Cup, etc. It's simply not worth it.

Furthermore, his history in casinos and everything else doesn't help his defense at all. May he be grateful every day for his fans.

Why do brazilian players, when they become stars, tend to demonstrate this type of behavior? Does fame make a guy upset or is it a culture of ostentation, funk and partying?
Of course, not generalizing, Kaka for example was an exception, brazilian players when they start to earn too much money with football they start to lose their way, then start to not focus much on training 'cause of these factors and everything that money can offer.

It's official... the CBF has already set the date for the championship's return: June 1st.
To the celebration of some, the restart will follow the same order of games as before the stoppage... the possibility that the seventh and eighth round games to be relocated to the middle of the calendar as some were predicting will not occur.

Wel... Palmeiras and São Paulo will have a good "advantage" because they'll have the most complete team for the most difficult clashes: São Paulo will have Luciano and Igor Vinícius (currently suspended) to face Corinthians. And Palmeiras will also have Endrick, Fláco Lopez, Mayke and even coach Abel present for the match against Atlético-MG (suspended too).

I agree with this decision, I believe that the games should follow the schedule initially stipulated, its the fairest thing to do.

But the question now is: How is the physical and emotional preparedness of the players after this catastrophe and so long without playing?

It's that thing, when a player is good, normally he's only good at that, and will have a painful life and everything. You mentioned kaka and I would also mention him, but try to think of someone else, it's very difficult.

So, I believe it's more the person themselves, not having the instruction and all the support from teams behind the player's brand. We can see a good example of this in Endrick, despite the regrets he is being well supported.

It's hard to know how the players affected by the catastrophe are doing, but we'll get an idea of their performance in a few days
These are the odds for the matches on day 01

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/05/25/LnHHc.png

For the teams that started the season very badly, they may have gained a chance to think about and train new strategies with these "off" days in the league
Corinthians and Fluminense in particular

Corinthians with odds of 2.06 on victory, and playing at home, could be a good bet

I think it's very risky at this current stage for Corinthians to bet on anything, especially with Cássio's departure, it could be that the squad is a little shaken or saddened by the loss of their teammate... I would bet on Botafogo, even with Corinthians playing in São Paulo

Yes, it's not a "guaranteed" bet
And I'm still not convinced about the Corinthians team

But in my opinion, Cassio's departure is very positive
New goalkeeper Carlos Miguel is an excellent goalkeeper who was just waiting for his chance, and now his turn has come
With a player like Cássio in the Corinthians team, with so many titles and so many games, it's difficult for another player to make room, but now that he's gone, Corinthians can move on

I hope the Corinthians team is renewed, many players have been excellent for the club in the past, but currently they are not managing to play very well for the team, like Cassio himself, Fagner, Paulinho etc.

Fagner should have been banned from football for what he did to midfielder Ederson... he simply ended Ederson's career with an extremely violent move, I consider Fagner practically a Junior Baiano of modern times...

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1492730654203665

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As for Carlos MIguel, I hope he works out for this team... I'm just worried about the fact that if he fails in a move the fans might start chasing him... as they were used to Cássio, who is an excellent goalkeeper, one of the best Corinthians has ever had.

I think that when in doubt about how the players will return, it is better to go against it until they show otherwise. Whether they want it or not, they are affected, both physically and mentally. So, it should be considered before betting.

Regarding the resumption of the championship, I was reading about the "Grenal" dispute (Grêmio against Internacional).

Previously, the match was scheduled to take place on June 15th... and like all games, it was postponed, now at June 23rd.
Initially, Grêmio would be the "hand of the field", but now they are studying a "neutral" location to play the match and Maracanã would be one of the locations evaluated for this competition.

Internacional expects to be able to start using its stadium again in 60 to 90 days, but Grêmio still has no deadline to return home.

I think that the teams from Rio Grande do Sul will not play in their stadiums again this year... the way things are going in Brazil, everything will take a long time to get back to normal...

Playing in Rio de Janeiro I think is completely bad for fans, an ideal alternative would be to play in Curitiba, even due to the shorter distance, even the teams would play with fans, since in Paraná there are many fans of these teams, completely different from Rio de Janeiro where I have never seen any Gremio/Internacional fans

From what I saw, the international played with the logo covered in mud to remember the floods. It was a very good campaign, I believe that if they came back with "nothing" the public would criticize them. It was a good move!

I thought Internacional's attitude in using this t-shirt was incredible to reinforce the problem the state is currently experiencing and raise awareness among people to help those who lost everything in this disaster.

It would also be cool to do an auction of the t-shirts and whatever proceeds go towards rebuilding what was lost.... This t-shirt in the future will become as rare as the Vasco T-shirt with the SBT symbol.

Yes, I hadn't thought of this auction. They could either auction the signed players' jerseys or make them available for purchase in limited quantities to raise funds for RS. Very interesting.

And I lost another bet on Corinthians, believing in a recovery  :(
I need to stop being optimistic about my team and accept the condition and earn some money from the defeat

Of the RS teams affected by the floods, only Internacional managed to win this round
In your opinion, do you think there's any chance of relegation for the RS teams affected?

I would no longer bet on Corinthians or any team facing some kind of "crisis", I think it's too risky....

Regarding relegation, I think there are teams much, much worse than a possible bad phase of the teams from Rio Grande do Sul... see Vasco yesterday, there they are a serious candidate for relegation, not even investors' money can solve the problem  :D :D

As well as being disappointed with my team, I've also lost several bets believing in Corinthians, it's time to give up  :P

What intrigues me is the fact that the team is well placed in the Sudamericana, having managed to finish the group stage in first place, and in the Brazilian championship it has a miserable 5 points from 7 games played
There's not much explanation for that

About Vasco, it's incredible how much a great team that has won so many titles and has so many fans has declined
I've seen the team in an endless crisis for years now
A 6x1 defeat to main rivals Flamengo is a terrible thing for the team's atmosphere

Unfortunately, there are possibilities, but I don't think they will. They just need to get into the swing of things and we still have a lot of games to try to make this change in the minds of the whole team. So it's just a matter of time to adapt everything and come back.

Whenever I meet Vasco Da Gama fans I tell them: Vasco is gone... Vasco is going to end, Vasco is a small team and is in extinction... because no one sees children wearing Vasco t-shirts anymore... .. Vasco will become the new America-RJ, minuscule lol

I love it  :D :D

In my opinion, Vasco was saved both by the meme that when someone dies they go play for Vasco and by social media popularizing the team. Because few people supported it until a few years ago, before the streamer Casemiro, for example.

Today I saw some news that should affect the teams:
https://g1.globo.com/rs/rio-grande-do-sul/noticia/2024/06/03/aeroporto-internacional-salgado-filho-completa-um-mes-fechado-previsao-e-de-reabertura-no-natal-diz-governo.ghtml (the link to the news is in Portuguese BR)

Porto Alegre's main airport won't reopen until December because of the flood damage
This is likely to have a major impact on logistics, not only for the RS teams but also for other teams if they were to play some matches in Porto Alegre

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Does anyone think that Vasco and Corinthians can be relegated?  :o :D

I've seen some complaints from people at X about this reshuffling, because since it only returns in December, the planned flights will need to be relocated and it seems like it's quite far away. So, if it's like this for one person, it must be even worse for the whole team.

It is an unprecedented inconvenience that the airport is closed and will influence practically everything in the state, since in addition to people, planes bring goods and several other things

Regarding relegation, Vasco da Gama will always be one of the candidates to fall to the second division, while Corinthians, I saw that they are having problems with their sponsor Master, if the contract is actually terminated this could cause serious financial problems and consequently risk of team having a terrible season... never-ending crisis...

Cuiaba Esporte Clube MT - EC Vitoria BA

This is a game involving the two worst teams in the league at the moment, both teams are coming from poor results in the last 5 games, reaching the point where both teams have not been able to win at least 1 game in the last 5 games, but when you compare which of the 2 teams are better, I see Vitoria being a little better in relation to Cuiaba, this is because Vitoria in the 6 games they have played so far have had at least 1 draw, while Cuiaba in the 5 games they have played at the moment have not even had one draw, they had 5 defeats, also looking at the goals scored and conceded by both teams I see that Vitoria is better than Cuiaba

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Vitoria scored 5 goals and conceded 13 goals

Cuiaba scored 0 goals and conceded 11 goals

But strangely, I see that the bookmakers are placing Cuiaba as the favorite and with a considerable advantage, because it has odds of 2.20 while Vitória has odds of 3.65, maybe Vitoria has a good player injured. I'm going to wait for the squad to be announced, because I intend to bet on Vitória to win this game

I saw in the news about the match that 6 Vitória players are injured, and 2 won't be able to play because they were red carded in the last match
Add that to the fact that Cuiaba will play at home, and that must be why the bookmakers are considering Cuiaba favorite

To give you my honest opinion, both teams are playing badly and it might be a 0x0 draw. They both need to improve a lot if they are not to be relegated early

But I don't have that good a guess for today. Good luck

At times like these, I think it ends up being good for the team to be relegated to the B series to create shame and organize itself as a real team. Only then can they stop and think straight. It makes no sense for them to be in this situation financially speaking.

I confess that I rarely get irritated by a football game when I'm watching it, I took a time to watch the highlights of Cuiaba's game against Vitória, I saw the video and thought: "it's not possible that had so many excellent chances to both teams scored a goal and the attackers of both teams seemed to be making mistakes on purpose ", so I went to watch more videos to see if there were more situations that could have resulted in goals, I didn't find them, maybe later there will be more highlights videos from that game, but from this video. that I saw:

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source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVqlSCd3CDI

I was irritated by what I was seeing, I watched this video several times to try to understand how these guys were players from the main league of Brazilian football, even some teams from the second division in Brazil have very good players, and these guys are playing worse than the guys from the second or even third division, perhaps they are even playing worse than the amateur football guys who play on weekends with friends.

I planned to wait for vitoria to announce the squad and then I would bet on them to win, but I made a mistake and when I went to see if they had already announced the squad, the game had already finished the 1 half, which is why I didn't bet, but if I had bet, I would have lost money. but as I bet for fun so I wouldn't have a problem losing, the odds were a big temptation, ;D odds of @ 3.65 on a simple bet always sound good to me when I see that it's in a game with some chance of success. It seems to me that these two teams will be relegated, with this low talent level of the attacking players, they will be relegated

I said exactly that in my post hehehe:


It's a good thing you didn't place the bet
Certain games in the Brazilian championship are not worth watching, and this game was a clear example
Both teams are already favorites for relegation, and we're still only 7 rounds into the season.

There are some things in Brazilian football that are truly inexplicable...

These players are professional athletes, they have at their disposal a structure of professionals: doctors, physiologists, psychologists, physical trainers, nutritionists, masseuses... they have a club with good equipment, a balanced diet... and they train almost every day .... and to take care of personal problems they have businessmen, maids, nannies and everything that any ordinary person would like to have... and EVEN THEN THEY MAKE RIDICULOUS MISTAKES. I will never understand

Football players are paid very well for this, with millionaire salaries, which generates an interesting debate, has the quality of brazilian players fallen or is it falling with each passing day? Are they having too many perks and that’s why they’re so relaxed?

Is it all worth the money? Take this example, Lucas Paquetá, a West Ham player, is being investigated by the English Federation on suspicion of sports betting manipulation.

According to the investigation, it is estimated that around 60 people bet that the Brazilian midfielder would be warned by the referee in one or more of these games.

https://blogdotorcedor.ne10.uol.com.br/ultimas/2024/06/06/por-que-o-caso-de-lucas-paqueta-e-grave-pode-nunca-mais-jogar-confira.html

Those memes really do come true in those moments. It's impossible to know if they're really bad or if they're a betting scheme. Because it's impossible for players who get paid to play soccer to not be able to do the basics of their job.

If are looking for certainty about things like this, I think it will be difficult because if it is about money then it is clear that the players get paid quite lot, if it is about satisfaction and lifestyle then that is also not the right reason considering the facilities provided by each team are more than Enough.
I think there are other things that cause players to make quite fatal mistakes, but it is not clear what the main reasons are that make players make mistakes that actually experience significant decline in performance.

Problems experienced by Brazilian players not only happen occasionally but have also happened several times before and this is very unfortunate because Brazil itself is actually country that has produced many great players, in fact they have many potential young players every year.
If learn from mistakes that have happened several times, it should give fear, but basically it is difficult to stop it and most players now act stupidly, risking their careers.