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Title: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: uneng on December 15, 2023, 08:07:26 PM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 15, 2023, 08:47:57 PM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)

Yes, we all remember that, we even have dedicated threads,

Twitch is going to ban most crypto gambling streamers. Where will Drake go now? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414936.0)
Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414408.0)

But we all know that this is going to be temporary though, because they are going to lose big money if they totally ban gambling. As for this artistic nudity, it will become controversial like gambling, but as you have said, they have double standards so they will allow it to continue and same with gambling. It's all about the business of making money at the end of the end and not about morals, just saying.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Oilacris on December 15, 2023, 08:58:23 PM
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Yes, we all remember that, we even have dedicated threads,

Twitch is going to ban most crypto gambling streamers. Where will Drake go now? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414936.0)
Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414408.0)

But we all know that this is going to be temporary though, because they are going to lose big money if they totally ban gambling. As for this artistic nudity, it will become controversial like gambling, but as you have said, they have double standards so they will allow it to continue and same with gambling. It's all about the business of making money at the end of the end and not about morals, just saying.
I remember it well and most people here on this community too.. Just like been said that im not really that shocked for these kind of decisions would really be turned out be changed up overtime
or they would really be allowing something which is far more worst than with gambling. As for this kind of allowing that artistic nudity which we can really be able to tell that this is really just as good as light porn i should say?  ;D

Well, iths their company then its their right on what they would should gonna do into their company. It is really just that sad that they are really that
prohibiting or banning gambling but now adding up some nudity? Totally mind boggling and questionable.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Johnyz on December 15, 2023, 08:59:51 PM
What a plot twist, is this also a live streaming of nudity?
Maybe there’s a big money for this compare to gambling and maybe this is more accepted by the regulation than to gambling. It’s hard to tell why they will allow this but if the regulations approve this then something is going on for sure. Let’s see if Twitch will stay longer without allowing any gambling streaming because for sure they are already losing a lot of money since they implemented this one.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: serveria.com on December 15, 2023, 09:01:57 PM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)

IMHO gambling is much more harmful if compared to nudity if you ask me. Nudity can even be really positive for countries with low birth rates and negative population growth haha. This decision comes shortly after platforms like Facebook allowed partial nudity (nipples) to be published.

What are the possible negative effects of allowing nudity? I don't see any... 


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: uneng on December 15, 2023, 09:24:24 PM
IMHO gambling is much more harmful if compared to nudity if you ask me. Nudity can even be really positive for countries with low birth rates and negative population growth haha. This decision comes shortly after platforms like Facebook allowed partial nudity (nipples) to be published.

What are the possible negative effects of allowing nudity? I don't see any... 
Gambling is much more harmful depending the person who is having access to it. For most people it won't have any negative effects to access gambling content, because they aren't going to become degenerate gamblers. The same can be said about nudity, although there will be always a minor percentage of people who will develop disfunctional behaviors when watching nudity (which may end becoming pornography).

I'm not against one or another. I just don't see why one has to be fought back and the other has to be embraced. A simple age restriction for determined kinds of contents inside the platform would be enough in both cases.

If Twitch wants to compete against adult websites for audience, while having an userbase of 13 years teens, let it be... That was one of the excuses presented to justify the ban on gambling content back then.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: alani123 on December 15, 2023, 09:38:16 PM
Artistic nudity that is  :D

It's quite ironic if you think about it, but it was also kinda allowed before too?
It was just informal and sometimes creators doing body paint.

To be honest I kinda understand the limitations on gambling, many outright scams were promoted. But also worth noting that twitch didn't want to get involved at all at helping gambling safer. They still allowed sports and poker, which could also be scams... They could have just demanded provable fairness on the other sites, but they didn't...

So now the main viewership on twitch is just softcore  ::)
The more educated viewers will be on kick in the meantime.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: swogerino on December 15, 2023, 09:50:58 PM
Lol,now they are becoming a new Pornhub and they banned gambling not long ago if I remember correctly.I think that despite such events more and more people are liking Twitch and this just shows what is all over us in the world,the double standard,the hypocrisy and related things.For me is a long time that I have not watched anything there and you just reminded me that they exist as I used to watch streamers there,now I watch streamers elsewhere but for me I think like the gambling is rigged everywhere,streamers being sponsored and making us follow them,while we only lose.

Kick is another platform gaining steam and I see them increasing in usage dramatically and gaining new users in a big expansion in a short to mid term.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: goaldigger on December 15, 2023, 09:53:12 PM
Though gambling is different, Twitch should not allow their platform to slowly become a pornhub.  ;D
Wondering why they are doing this, are they going to compensate the losses they’ve incurred by banning gambling by just allowing this kind of nudity feature? Well it less harmful though but still we know how this nudity affects the minds of many especially with the underage.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: avp2306 on December 15, 2023, 10:03:13 PM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)

Spicy streamers is more sellable than those gambling streamers that's why don't get surprise about such situation since its normal. But once there's someone from government disturb their operation due to to nudity reason for sure same with gambling twitch will put an action with that and also ban that nudity streamers.

For now those people who do that can enjoy that platform since no legal disturbance happening but once there's something certain roll of events happen for sure it can sure taken out on the scene same with what happen on gambling scene their.

I  think twitch is doing fine since after all its business so maybe they allow it or let it happen since there's no official disallow them to erase that content.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Casdinyard on December 15, 2023, 10:05:55 PM
Yeah pretty braindead rule on their part I must say. But there's method to this madness I must say. They are hoping to cater towards a much larger audience which in this case involves artists and other creators that delve in the art world, so they have more freedom to express their stuff without getting the ban hammer. I'm guessing they overlooked the fact that there are people who will look for loopholes to avoid getting banned while still being able to do these stupid things.

I give the benefit of the doubt to Twitch on this one. But at the same time I condemn them for banning Gambling since at the end of the day, as Asmongold puts it, the platform was never meant for kids in the first place.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: samcrypto on December 15, 2023, 10:11:50 PM
Of course, who will not forget about this moved from Twitch.
Introducing something new in their platform doesn't mean you go into this kind of feature. Allowing Nudity in the platform will surely affect the reputation of this site and for sure the regulations will also look into this. Banning Gambling on their platform is quiet acceptable since its harmful but with this, I think they are just trying to get back the viewers that they've loss since their last update, this is not a good move for me and nudity should not be easily available online especially there's a lot of underage using their platform by simply changing their identity.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: chaser15 on December 15, 2023, 10:16:56 PM
Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)

Their platform, their rules. Just take it with a grain of salt, I guess.

Since that revamp on sexual content can be considered as a new change in the platform, for sure the community will voiced their concern and expect some changes over changes in no time. Let's just wait for the platform's reaction after a brief period of time. If you think the platforms annoys you, try to ignore them for now. Aside from that, Twitch is a growing platform and most likely will end up what Youtube is currently today where lots of content, at a different genre, are being subject for aggressive moderation as they are being regulated more.

If the platform are against gambling-related services but allowing nudity, we should look deeply the specific term regarding that.

(P.S: I'm not really sure about what kind of nudity are being referred here. I doubt they will put almost an XXX content there. :D)


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: lionheart78 on December 15, 2023, 10:42:43 PM
What are the possible negative effects of allowing nudity? I don't see any... 

The first negative effect would be exploitation.  To get more views and audience those who wanted to earn more often exploit minors.  They might declare that the person involved is more than 18 years old and they can fake it.

Artistic nudity is not that bad since it has something to do with art but I wonder how they can filter artistic nudity from pornography, and the filter of the actors or models used in such artistic nudity content.

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If the platform are against gambling-related services but allowing nudity, we should look deeply the specific term regarding that.

Nudity and gambling are two different industries, so they can approve one and completely shut one.  It is the call of the platform owner IMHO.



[1]https://educateempowerkids.org/8-harmful-effects-of-pornography-on-individuals/


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: macson on December 15, 2023, 10:51:19 PM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)
Every platform owner has rights and obligations regarding how their platform operates, well in some countries nudity is not considered a form of wrongdoing, while gambling is considered a form of wrongdoing, if we want to complain then it is a wrong action, there is something wrong with it.  i think, if Twitch doesn't ban nudity then Twitch developers definitely want to move towards providing pornographic content, in some countries this is banned, this is like a boomerang for them, banning gambling content but allowing nudity.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Slow death on December 15, 2023, 11:00:22 PM
nowadays society is already at its lowest point, I remember that a few years ago many people complained that they shouldn't put gambling sites on Facebook and Instagram. Fortunately, the casinos have their Instagram pages without causing too much headache, but on Instagram women are almost naked in the photos, it has become something very normal and when you look at the USA you realize that in the USA it has become normal for women to walk in the streets with little clothing during the day and when women in the US go to parties and clubs, they put on little clothing that makes it look like their intention is that they are going to expose their body for sale

The owners of these platforms live in the USA, if I'm not wrong, so they are part of American society and obviously, being scantily clad is normal for women in the USA, so on these social networks there will be no prohibition on people exposing their bodies and that's it. because the US government does not prohibit this exposure of women's bodies, but in the case of gambling the US government, like many governments, has been much tougher and for this reason the owners of these social networks are intimidated and forced to sometimes restrict gambling. I believe there is nothing that can be done to make things change.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Text on December 15, 2023, 11:51:16 PM
Their principles in making this decision regarding the treatment of gambling and the acceptance of nudity on Twitch are noticeable and questionable. They banned gambling because they believed it could not provide sufficient consumer protections that could lead to financial hardship and addiction. However, it's confusing because Twitch prohibits nudity, inappropriate attire, pornography, and sexually explicit or suggestive content, yet they allow certain streams that contain sexual themes if they provide an appropriate label. I understand the decision to allow artistic nudity to support a broader range of content and expression on the platform. However, it would be better if the boundaries were clearly defined to ensure that the content remains appropriate for its audience.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Strongkored on December 16, 2023, 03:42:43 AM
The silliness created by Twitch, and it could be because they lost a lot of money after deciding to ban gambling content, but it's only a matter of time until they finally allow gambling again because they don't want income to be reduced any longer.
Gambling and Nudity are both damaging if accessed by people who are not old enough to be responsible for the content being accessed, but unfortunately more people associate gambling with worse, making many platforms take steps to ban gambling even though it can be overcome with age restrictions.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: danherbias07 on December 16, 2023, 04:47:56 AM
All we can do is laugh at these things. ;D Or can we report it? Maybe.

It's truly a double standard. Maybe the owner behind Twitch likes it more when it comes to pornography than gambling. Well, it's not that expensive and they offer yearly subscriptions while in gambling they are going to waste a lot of money if it becomes a habit. It's better to just waste energy jerking off.  ;D
Seriously, I think it caused them trouble when streamers started live videos of gambling. It's not just about traditional belief but because of the rising amount of gambling addicts in the world. But the only problem that I saw is they want to look good and yet here we are talking about the nudity streamers which is not right for many Christians and other religions.
How I really wish my kids wouldn't bump into that website while they are growing up.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: noormcs5 on December 16, 2023, 05:48:13 AM
Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

This is not a double standard but the only standard for twitch and other centralized platforms. The problem is that these are centralized bodies and they can make whatever decision they like or think is good for their own self. We, as an audience, have no rights other than to boycott the Twitch in case we feel that they are making double standard rules and allowing things like porn that may be bad for society.

By then, how many people will boycott? the number will be very few, so less that it won't have any effect on the Twitch platform and user base. This is why we need these platforms to be replaced by the decentralized ones where the decision will be taken by the public.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: livingfree on December 16, 2023, 06:18:55 AM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)
I think I remember that news when they've became too strict with gambling contents from the streamers. It is ironic that they're too hard and forceful with gambling but when it's come to nudity that many children does see these contents as well, they're soft.

It's certainly double standards on their end but it's likely that they're earning more with those nudity contents. Anyway, we can always expect from them that they'll be like this and against gambling contents.

But when it's about these contents that they should censor, they won't.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: adultcrypto on December 16, 2023, 06:30:21 AM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)
This is really a case of double standard. The proponents of the ban might just be people having personal grievance or people whose religions background do not support gambling, what they could come up with is a ban hiding under incoherent reasons. I just imagine Twitter (X) banning gambling, that soundss ridiculous. 

What I also find strange is that gaming is not banned, even P2E games and other form of games that are similar to gambling. This is why I consider that decision double standard. If there is anything that should be banned for public safety, then nudity should top the list.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on December 16, 2023, 06:35:50 AM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)

Yes, we all remember that, we even have dedicated threads,

Twitch is going to ban most crypto gambling streamers. Where will Drake go now? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414936.0)
Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414408.0)

But we all know that this is going to be temporary though, because they are going to lose big money if they totally ban gambling. As for this artistic nudity, it will become controversial like gambling, but as you have said, they have double standards so they will allow it to continue and same with gambling. It's all about the business of making money at the end of the end and not about morals, just saying.

    -   If we look at it, it is better that they get benefits from gambling than from nudity like that. Because, for sure, there are many communities in different parts of the world that can lose their communities.

We also do not know what is going through the mind of the owner of Twitch, but even so, it may be temporary, and it is also possible that in the present or in the future they will bring back the gambling streaming. I'm not very updated on Twitch.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Rockstarguy on December 16, 2023, 07:01:01 AM
IMHO gambling is much more harmful if compared to nudity if you ask me. Nudity can even be really positive for countries with low birth rates and negative population growth haha. This decision comes shortly after platforms like Facebook allowed partial nudity (nipples) to be published.

What are the possible negative effects of allowing nudity? I don't see any... 
None is better, the both can mislead young people.  When a teenager comes across a platform where nudity is being showcase it can really affect the person to things at an early stage when it is not the right time to live in such life. Maybe they feel gambling is dangerous that is why they didn't accept it in their platform, they  might be considering young people that is why they didn't accept gambling in their platform,  because it can really affect the life of young people to do terrible thing just to satisfy their urge in gambling.  I think they have reasons for such decisions because if we should compare the act they are not the same.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: NeilLostBitCoin on December 16, 2023, 07:43:43 AM
Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

I don't usually get why you need to post like this. It's clear that Twitch allows only "Adult content such as nude drawings and sculptures are now permitted on streaming site Twitch - as long as it is deemed artistic.". Twitch only allows what they consider to be "artistic" nudity in the form of drawings and sculptures. Gambling content on social media like Twitch can be misleading because people often fake their winnings to promote their affiliate links and attract more players. Twitch has a policy against gambling content to protect its young audience. Because gambling can be harmful, and Twitch wants to make sure their users stay safe. They value their users and want to provide a responsible environment for them.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: len01 on December 16, 2023, 08:11:02 AM
I will not demean or badmouth other people here but it turns out that apart from gamblers who misunderstand gambling, even the development team or owner of a streaming platform has a mistake in understanding gambling and this has been visible from the start when Twitch considered gambling to be an outrageous act and gave permission about pornographic content.
from these 2 mistakes it is very clear that Twitch has made a mistake in understanding these 2 concepts because what we know for sure is that gambling is just entertainment like video games, whereas Twitch is a streaming platform about games and if Twitch thinks that gambling encourages someone to waste money, what about games? who has to make a deposit to buy items in the game shop?
and what's funnier or more ridiculous, Twitch is no longer a place for gamers to stream but a place to show body shape and sexiness for the sake of existence.

I dont know what influences all of this, but what is more precise is that the platform has an unfair view, only judging from several parties, so that it considers gambling as inappropriate behavior and has a bad impact in the long term, but Twitch doesn't think that sexy or pornographic content has a bad impact. also in the long term like rape etc.
and sometimes I'm very confused thinking about the platforms that are currently changing a lot of rules for the worse and one of them is the platform that is being discussed and I used to be there often but lately I dont have any interest in watching there.

even though in my opinion, if Twitch chooses to maintain gambling, it will definitely increase revenue and new people register on the platform, plus allowing sexy or pornographic content will make Twitch even bigger, but unfortunately it's a ridiculous decision from only one party.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Gozie51 on December 16, 2023, 08:28:50 AM
This is surely a double standard by twitch. If they have decided to allow artistic nudity is same as pornography because those are going to be explicit pictures running in the mind of people including children. Nudity and gambling are suppose to be to the exclusive reserve of adults but with such nudity, children are going to be at risk.

To stream art works with naked bodies is only going to corrupt children more and the reason for banning gambling on their platform is more or less defeated.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: virasisog on December 16, 2023, 08:38:55 AM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)

IMHO gambling is much more harmful if compared to nudity if you ask me. Nudity can even be really positive for countries with low birth rates and negative population growth haha. This decision comes shortly after platforms like Facebook allowed partial nudity (nipples) to be published.

What are the possible negative effects of allowing nudity? I don't see any... 


We don't need to compare which is less evil or not, both nudity and gambling has a negative effect not just to young viewers, especially teens. If you ask what are the possible negative effects of allowing nudity, there are a lot especially to a teenager's mind. I don't want to be a hyprocite but being exposed early in such content might corrupt people's mind, it's absurd to think it will help countries with low birth rates. How about countries with high crime rate due to sexual acts.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Zlantann on December 16, 2023, 08:52:56 AM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)

Centralised organisations will act in the manner they deem fit to protect the interest of the business. They can also make decisions without considering if it is a double standard or not, all they want is to sustain the business and make a profit. Twitch stopped gambling ads because of pressure from its users because of a streamer who scammed many people to fund his gambling addiction. They had to bow to pressure to protect the platform's interest.

But I also think that the privilege of showcasing artistic nudity is abnormal considering that children will be exposed to it. But they will claim that they are promoting arts and the contents are not real. Maybe they might reconsider this decision if there are complaints that a streamer defrauded users and other content creators to fuel pornography addiction due to this artistic content. Maybe Twitch prefers to be reactive rather than proactive.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Kelward on December 16, 2023, 09:42:29 AM
What a plot twist, is this also a live streaming of nudity?
Maybe there’s a big money for this compare to gambling and maybe this is more accepted by the regulation than to gambling. It’s hard to tell why they will allow this but if the regulations approve this then something is going on for sure. Let’s see if Twitch will stay longer without allowing any gambling streaming because for sure they are already losing a lot of money since they implemented this one.

This is a high level of hypocrisy, banning gambling that you can watch and ignore and allowing nudity that can entice and even hypnotize the viewer. I quite disagree with members that thinks that gambling is more harmful than nudity, because I've educated my underaged son who asked me questions about gambling. So if he starts to see nudity at his age, how do I start to educate him about homones at his tender age?

I guess nudity can bring more traffic than gambling, if it's so then it'll be choosing the one that's more profitable to them, although it still beats me because gambling is also very profitable. We'll just watch and see how it plays out in the near future.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: qwertyup23 on December 16, 2023, 10:33:28 AM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)

IMHO gambling is much more harmful if compared to nudity if you ask me. Nudity can even be really positive for countries with low birth rates and negative population growth haha. This decision comes shortly after platforms like Facebook allowed partial nudity (nipples) to be published.

What are the possible negative effects of allowing nudity? I don't see any... 

I find it funny that most p*rn websites can be accessed in our country (Philippines) but if you try to search online gambling platforms (e.g. Stake.com), our ISP has automatically banned it saying that "we should stay away from it." I will try to get a screenshot here so that everyone could see it!

Anyway, I do think that gambling has more impact compared to pornography. I mean, the only method that porn websites do to prevent minors from accessing their website is to press "accept" or "deny" if you are above 18. After that, you're in (no pun intended). But to most gambling websites, it contains stringent regulations in order for you to cash your proceeds out.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: bluebit25 on December 16, 2023, 10:38:22 AM
Things that are considered moral standards will gradually be replaced by benefits, and that is not too strange. The story of freedom in any field will be appreciated by everyone, but it will lose its general balance. There will be people who see it as disgusting, but on the contrary, there will also be people who accept it.

Similar to gambling, it is a social platform, but some countries still consider this activity illegal, so as long as players are responsible and within the rules. I also think that there will be negative effects, but if awareness is raised, the negative side can become just a fact of life.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: angrybirdy on December 16, 2023, 10:52:39 AM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)

this makes me laugh real hard, Like they banned gambling but allowed artistic nudity, seems like promoting pornography? and a lot of people here says that gambling is more harmful than nudity when we all know that this is both wrong and it is inappropriate because there's still young people who can view that kind of topic. Well, we have no right to protest about that, maybe those persons behind twitch is a fan of sexual things.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: piebeyb on December 16, 2023, 11:01:33 AM
There are still many platforms besides Twitch where gambling is free to be promoted and perhaps we know that gambling and nudity are very dangerous for minors, which is why Twitch should not prohibit gambling content and should limit or filter users so that it cannot be accessed by minors because it is very vulnerable if it is seen and studied by minors, besides of course the way they prohibit it will only reduce their income and even their income will definitely decrease, especially since gambling is a very profitable business.

I think Twitch will also withdraw the ban on gambling in the future if in the end this nudity content is allowed by them, because I don't think gambling content is something scary for anyone because again, if Twitch bans it, it doesn't mean it can prevent it. people to gamble instead they will try other platforms where they can find gambling content and still gambling users are increasing every day, there is no big impact from the ban either  ;)


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: uneng on December 16, 2023, 04:17:02 PM
I don't usually get why you need to post like this. It's clear that Twitch allows only "Adult content such as nude drawings and sculptures are now permitted on streaming site Twitch - as long as it is deemed artistic.". Twitch only allows what they consider to be "artistic" nudity in the form of drawings and sculptures.
Hmm, really? I've seen some hot pictures of naked women on Youtube videos talking about this Twitch's last update. :D

Gambling content on social media like Twitch can be misleading because people often fake their winnings to promote their affiliate links and attract more players. Twitch has a policy against gambling content to protect its young audience. Because gambling can be harmful, and Twitch wants to make sure their users stay safe. They value their users and want to provide a responsible environment for them.
Well, it's a private company, as others said: their company, their rules. But it's undeniable their reasonings don't make any logical sense...

If the problem are fake screenshots of big winnings and scammers deceiving others through a successful gambler image, the correct is to fight the misinformation, like X social media has been doing in a transparent format, always pointing out when the information shared is false.

Now, it's contradictory to protect the young audience against gambling, but expose it to potential pornography. By the law this kind of content is only for +18 years old.



Nothing we say here will change anything at all, but it's valid to keep practicing the critical thinking capacity for YOURSELF in first place, so you don't resume your existence into becoming a fool or a sheep.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: AbuBhakar on December 16, 2023, 04:23:27 PM
Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

The real reason why gambling ban on twitch is because some streamers are asking for funding to their viewers which cause harm to their consumers. It’s not about being family friendly but rather the potential harm of gambling to the user of their platform that might cause them some lawsuit once affected users already file a complaint.

On the other hand, Artistic nudity is allowed in every social media platform. I don’t find them wrong as a man because it’s not a direct porno. Besides Twitch is not a family friendly platform tho.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 16, 2023, 04:31:26 PM
There may be a reason why nudity is allowed by Twitch developers while gambling is not because gambling can have a greater negative effect on people who gamble more often. People who gamble more often can experience various problems after they gamble and this can impact the people around the gambler. So Twith developers probably think that gambling should not be allowed. Meanwhile, nudity may be truly artistic. But we need to find out why Twitch did this so we can only guess.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: o48o on December 16, 2023, 06:16:54 PM
I see this as part of their lost fight. They counted on the vision that even if some users will leave, there will come "better" users to replace them, so they get more revenue from non-gamblers family-value types. But there's one flaw in that plan. And that is counting on the hope that anyone will come to their site. So shareholders are starting to get nervous as big sites die all the time because of bad decisions. So leadership wants to relax some other rules, but not the rule about gambling, because reversing that would make it seem like it was under incompetence leadership.

So they explore other routes. It wouldn't surprise me if they decided to go full onlyfans next to make their shareholders more profit.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Sim_card on December 16, 2023, 06:48:26 PM
Twitch see gambling as something evil bit they have seen artist nudity as something good to the public, this is unfair as a lot of teens below 18 will be tempted by those sculpture or arts. I see that they believe that they will have more customers than that of gambling and that was why they came up with this strategy no to lose out in business. They are doing this for money and nothing more, but I prefer gambling to this. Both gambling and light porn have their own side effect.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: electronicash on December 16, 2023, 06:54:37 PM
So they explore other routes. It wouldn't surprise me if they decided to go full onlyfans next to make their shareholders more profit.

when money is what motivates them, that could be a plan in motion. what doesn't make sense is that the casino streamers were sacked, they didn't make money from those gambling streamers?

nude art or not, i don't think it will still be a family-oriented photo. anyone looking at a picture even the nude art on deviantart.com can give you a boner. so it doesn't matter how they distinguish art and porno. twitch is not even a site for art but whatever they say.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: un_rank on December 16, 2023, 07:13:15 PM
Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...
Gambling was not condemned as outrageous. As i vaguely remember the story, it was banned for something that had to do with big influencers and their attitude towards the platform, or something related to that. This was not a moral stand at any point.

If they choose to allow any form of nudity, then it is up the company to decide, does not make it double standards.

- Jay -


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Quidat on December 16, 2023, 08:52:18 PM
Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...
Gambling was not condemned as outrageous. As i vaguely remember the story, it was banned for something that had to do with big influencers and their attitude towards the platform, or something related to that. This was not a moral stand at any point.

If they choose to allow any form of nudity, then it is up the company to decide, does not make it double standards.

- Jay -
Yes, their business then its their rules on which it would be applied.It is really just that we cant really be able to avoid on not to say something basing up with those decisions or things that they've been doing specially into those people who had been using Twitch before specially on gambling streams and other correlated things on which they've decided to ban it out due to some issues or whatever reasoning it would be and now that they are allowing out that kind of nudity then it cant really be avoided that it would be raising up some eyebrows basing up into the decision that they had made.
If we arent really that liking on what Twitch is doing now, well we do have some options on making use of other platforms as well. It would really be that always falls down into someones preference
i should say.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 16, 2023, 09:02:32 PM
So they explore other routes. It wouldn't surprise me if they decided to go full onlyfans next to make their shareholders more profit.

when money is what motivates them, that could be a plan in motion. what doesn't make sense is that the casino streamers were sacked, they didn't make money from those gambling streamers?

nude art or not, i don't think it will still be a family-oriented photo. anyone looking at a picture even the nude art on deviantart.com can give you a boner. so it doesn't matter how they distinguish art and porno. twitch is not even a site for art but whatever they say.

i don't think this site will be a family-oriented site anymore as based from the OP's link, in one of the statements -

"Creators can now also stream video highlighting their "breasts, buttocks or pelvic region" the Amazon-owned site has announced."

now, do you really think that is a family-oriented one? but they will say it is just artistic approach on things. people are really losing their minds.  ::) for sure they will rack good money from this move, as people who are into this thing have now a very good reason as they can easily say, they are just doing this for art sake or they can claim it as their artistic way of things. such a very subjective approach.

next time, people are going to this streaming platform not because of some game or sports, but because of this "artistic" side of the users.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Hispo on December 16, 2023, 09:04:36 PM
Yes, I recall when Twitch banned gambling from the platform and I was aware of the new Terms of the platform about nudity. Honestly, it has become a very strange and ironic situation, because people were not able to gamble on there but now some days ago I started to watch people reacting to the new content which is allowed in Twitch and it has turned into a literal soft core pornography webside.
I saw an artist streamer drawing on line furry pornography art I also saw another female Vtuber displaying explicit drawings of her avatar to her subscribers and every time she received a donation started to jiggle the boobs of her avatar to the camera.

It is simply surreal. I do not even know what Amazon/Twitch is expecting to ge money off this and at the same time continue to hold their alleged values of a platform which is supposed to be family friendly. Yesterday I read rumors they have already backpedaled and have reversed the decision on allowing pornography on Twitch. The lesson we can get from all this mess: a slot machine is apparently more dangerous to teen than copious amounts of pornography is. Messy.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Orpichukwu on December 16, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Both nudity and gambling are harmful in their own ways, especially when the content viewer is not of age and can't take some decisions for themselves, as it might mislead them in negative ways.
 
When it comes to nudity, we might see it as something that might be kept off the internet or made public based on our personal views and interests, but then again, whether we like it or not, these things really need to be made public, up to some extent. To some point, they are education, depending on how the person who has access to the information wants to treat it.
 
In the aspect of gambling, they are also good and bad, and I don't judge anyone who wants to limit it from their publications; it's their world; they can decide what they consider healthy and what they shouldn't.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 16, 2023, 09:25:16 PM
Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?
Let me say that Twitch has the right to do whatever it wants to do and also interpret views as it wants to act accordingly. But they certainly cannot tell me that they have the perfect justification for banning gambling and allowing nudity. Is it for addictions? People can be addicted to both, and to be more elaborate, nudity attracts more people to addiction than gambling, and the same goes for the sales of the company. Maybe that is why they opted for it as they still have nothing to lose in this package.

Nudity, especially for the young generation is so addictive, that's what they love most, and only for it, they might be the core fans of Twitch. However, the only argument Twitch can claim against gambling is that, in addition to its addictive capability, people may still waste money engaging in it, and this could cause a whole lot of psychological issues. But for the nudity, people might be tempted to come often but will have nothing huge to waste like money or have some kind of depression that gambling addiction could cause. Above all, the two could have been allowed since they are both allowed legally, only that they should issue a disclaimer in line with that of gambling so that people know the risk involved, not entirely banning it.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Chikito on December 17, 2023, 12:07:07 AM
Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?
Seems like they just were playing at the market. As we know nudity is more dangerous than gambling. it actually damages the mentality of young people rather than playing gambling which is similar to games. We don't know how much money Twitch gets from the nudity company. That is possible a lot because that industry always grows up the same as gambling itself. Now, from here we can actually see that Twitch is just a company that is only money-oriented, Maybe gambling does not give them too much money then show up the naked girl on video.



Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Belarge on December 17, 2023, 02:38:24 AM
Seems like they just were playing at the market. As we know nudity is more dangerous than gambling. it actually damages the mentality of young people rather than playing gambling which is similar to games. We don't know how much money Twitch gets from the nudity company. That is possible a lot because that industry always grows up the same as gambling itself. Now, from here we can actually see that Twitch is just a company that is only money-oriented, Maybe gambling does not give them too much money then show up the naked girl on video.


Everyone have a plan and budgets to executes every season, there's no resting until one succeeds in ensuring he makes good amounts daily, weekly, monthly and yearly from the lay down investment. There are times we give up but do bounce back because we just gave to keep pushing for excellent results. Twitch can be generating 10x of what gambling gives them because nudity spreads so fast before anyone could notice. They know the exact amounts they produce daily, If they didn't produce good results, then I think they won't bother to abandon gambling fro nudity.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: uneng on December 17, 2023, 02:51:12 AM
If they choose to allow any form of nudity, then it is up the company to decide, does not make it double standards.
Yes, just like a father who has two sons with one year difference between them, but since an early age, only one is allowed to go to birthday's parties, choose what to eat on breakfast, play videogames as long as he want during the day, while the other has to strictly follow a routine of studies, eating and discipline.

The father doesn't have double standards towards the education of his children. It's just that he is in the charge of the situation, so he can do as he wish. :P


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: fullhdpixel on December 17, 2023, 01:23:03 PM
This is surely a double standard by twitch. If they have decided to allow artistic nudity is same as pornography because those are going to be explicit pictures running in the mind of people including children. Nudity and gambling are suppose to be to the exclusive reserve of adults but with such nudity, children are going to be at risk.

To stream art works with naked bodies is only going to corrupt children more and the reason for banning gambling on their platform is more or less defeated.
Last time, I heard/saw someone which states that nudity is a kind of art. While this is my first time hearing the term "artistic nudity" here. I think this is where the nude models are being painted, or their body are being inked. Maybe this is the ones who were allowed, because the audience can't still see the full naked body of the models.

However, in the eyes of others, especially to the gamblers and gambling streamers, who are once removed, and affected in the decision made by Twitch last time to gambling, they aren't happy with it. Twitch only gave them another weapon to attack them more. But as usual, Twitch can only ignore them.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Hispo on December 17, 2023, 10:33:02 PM
This is surely a double standard by twitch. If they have decided to allow artistic nudity is same as pornography because those are going to be explicit pictures running in the mind of people including children. Nudity and gambling are suppose to be to the exclusive reserve of adults but with such nudity, children are going to be at risk.

To stream art works with naked bodies is only going to corrupt children more and the reason for banning gambling on their platform is more or less defeated.
Last time, I heard/saw someone which states that nudity is a kind of art. While this is my first time hearing the term "artistic nudity" here. I think this is where the nude models are being painted, or their body are being inked. Maybe this is the ones who were allowed, because the audience can't still see the full naked body of the models.

However, in the eyes of others, especially to the gamblers and gambling streamers, who are once removed, and affected in the decision made by Twitch last time to gambling, they aren't happy with it. Twitch only gave them another weapon to attack them more. But as usual, Twitch can only ignore them.

Actually, if you look even deeper into the concept of Artistic nudity, you will realize it is not only applied to body paint or ink. It is more about nudity not having the explicit purpose to turn lustful feeling in the expectator, but rather being part of a representation of art. Some examples include artistic depictions of nudity in marble statues or paintings where a naked woman is featured, being one of the oldest representations the body of Aphrodite, the goddess of beauty and fertility.
So if Twitch rules stay the way they are so people are allowed to stream artistic nudity, in theory, there will be artist further encouraged to stream the creation of pornography and at the same time they won't be able to be banned because they could argue whatever they are going is an artistic representation.
It is truly a slap on the face against people who got banned from Twitch for minor things like swearing or doing content which was alledgely not Family friendly, all while this is going on.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Oilacris on December 17, 2023, 10:40:10 PM
This is surely a double standard by twitch. If they have decided to allow artistic nudity is same as pornography because those are going to be explicit pictures running in the mind of people including children. Nudity and gambling are suppose to be to the exclusive reserve of adults but with such nudity, children are going to be at risk.

To stream art works with naked bodies is only going to corrupt children more and the reason for banning gambling on their platform is more or less defeated.
Last time, I heard/saw someone which states that nudity is a kind of art. While this is my first time hearing the term "artistic nudity" here. I think this is where the nude models are being painted, or their body are being inked. Maybe this is the ones who were allowed, because the audience can't still see the full naked body of the models.

However, in the eyes of others, especially to the gamblers and gambling streamers, who are once removed, and affected in the decision made by Twitch last time to gambling, they aren't happy with it. Twitch only gave them another weapon to attack them more. But as usual, Twitch can only ignore them.
Not really shocking on things that would really be invented, humans do really love on creating something and calling it something but its actually the same.
We are living on a world on having those drastic changes and decisions made into those people or company will really be basing up into their interested. If Twitch had banned gambling but actually
did allow this artistic nudity then it would be their choice but for sure there would be those people who would really be always loving to criticize on whatever the things they've been deciding.
We know that we cant please anyone on which means that there would be  those people who would really be that that always have something to say.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: el kaka22 on December 19, 2023, 05:45:34 PM
It's banned now as well, they tried something but they knew that it would cause trouble and just wanted to see how it would go, and now that it's gone, we ended up with them banning it yet again as well. It was always a bad decision, but they wanted to see what kind of bad it would be, like would it be ok to just keep it going that way or would it be way too much, and it was way more than what they assumed so they banned it.

Gambling being banned on twitch is not a bad idea by the way, I am still supporting it, there are way too many underage people at twitch and you do not know if the yare watching gamblers or not, to be fair they can watch gamblers even at youtube, so it is not like we are hiding it, but we should try our best to not promote gambling to underage people.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: uneng on December 19, 2023, 05:59:09 PM
It's banned now as well, they tried something but they knew that it would cause trouble and just wanted to see how it would go, and now that it's gone, we ended up with them banning it yet again as well. It was always a bad decision, but they wanted to see what kind of bad it would be, like would it be ok to just keep it going that way or would it be way too much, and it was way more than what they assumed so they banned it.
It's true, accordingly to news, a day later the approval of the new policy, they already regret about it and went back on their decision. :P

Quote
However, there also was a great deal of new content that was allowed under the updated policy. Much of the content created has been met with community concern. These are concerns we share. Upon reflection, we have decided that we went too far with this change. Digital depictions of nudity present a unique challenge–AI can be used to create realistic images, and it can be hard to distinguish between digital art and photography.

Twitch Walks Back Ridiculous ‘Artistic Nudity’ Policy One Day After Totally Unpredictable Outcome (https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2023/12/18/twitch-walks-back-ridiculous-artistic-nudity-policy-one-day-after-totally-unpredictable-outcome/?sh=1a2556da5bf9)

I think it's funny the platform blamed on AI for canceling the new policy, as the main issue here was the fact it's hard to distinguish between photography and generated AI image. It actually doesn't make any difference. The real point which made total difference was the heavy backlash they suffered from every directions. Public opinion was totally against Twitch's new policy, and they concluded there was no logical reasoning to support nudity on the platform at same time they want to promote it as a family friendly environment for teenagers.

They must have thought: let's blame the failure of the policy on the AIs, move ahead and forget about this matter, for our own good, before more backlashes and inconsistencies come up against us.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Fatunad on December 19, 2023, 07:26:23 PM
It's banned now as well, they tried something but they knew that it would cause trouble and just wanted to see how it would go, and now that it's gone, we ended up with them banning it yet again as well. It was always a bad decision, but they wanted to see what kind of bad it would be, like would it be ok to just keep it going that way or would it be way too much, and it was way more than what they assumed so they banned it.

Gambling being banned on twitch is not a bad idea by the way, I am still supporting it, there are way too many underage people at twitch and you do not know if the yare watching gamblers or not, to be fair they can watch gamblers even at youtube, so it is not like we are hiding it, but we should try our best to not promote gambling to underage people.
Yes, lets up some links for readers awareness.

Twitch U-turns on 'artistic nudity' policy (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67747949)
Twitch’s ‘artistic nudity’ policy rolled back days after it was introduced (https://www.polygon.com/24002802/twitch-artistic-nudity-policy-rollback)

When the masses would really be that opposing such decisions then they would normally that reverting on the things that they've been planning to do.
Of course they would really be mindful about peoples feedbacks and opinions and if they do saw that it would be that negative then they would
really just simply revert it back.

We can say that it is a smart move rather than on trying out to enforce those things but ended up on having those forever non good feeling
towards the company and this isnt something good for them on any angle. So they did the right call i should say or something
that would really be just that normal.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: 348Judah on December 19, 2023, 07:38:57 PM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Shame on those who think that gambling is what will mislead the people from being responsible in life and shift their focus on concentrating on what is important to their lives, many have castigated gambling for the past and now allow for the worst which is nudity, in life, we sometimes create time for the less important things leaving the most important ones behind because we loosed focus along the way forgetting that no one is perfect in life, these same people fighting against gambling and now watching their children doing it and also paving way for immoralities which is worst than gambling.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Marykeller on December 19, 2023, 08:11:41 PM
For Twitch, having nudity on their platform is far more acceptable than gambling. It's laughable how certain apps make every effort to prevent users from uploading nude content, whereas Twitch welcomes it with open arms. Is that not strange?

This move by Twitch to censor gambling and tolerate nudity raises concerns about why they would want to do such things, as if it won't undoubtedly ruin the minds of future generations as they keep getting access to it


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Yatsan on December 19, 2023, 08:13:37 PM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Shame on those who think that gambling is what will mislead the people from being responsible in life and shift their focus on concentrating on what is important to their lives, many have castigated gambling for the past and now allow for the worst which is nudity, in life, we sometimes create time for the less important things leaving the most important ones behind because we loosed focus along the way forgetting that no one is perfect in life, these same people fighting against gambling and now watching their children doing it and also paving way for immoralities which is worst than gambling.
Well, exposure is the root cause of those problems. We cannot do anything from people who negatively views this industry with terminologies and such. Indeed it is not gambling which pushes a gambler to go all out but the gambler's emotion. However, self-discipline does not take place in a single instance and there should be still a learning procedures which contributes to the negative outcome. Problem only is that gambling industry;wherein there are people who negatively views crypto and gambling investments. Same with platforms wherein they tend to agree with what's mainstream.

Quite unfair also with the platforms.they are sometimes too selective on which one should be promoted or shown to daty.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: rachael9385 on December 19, 2023, 08:27:43 PM
This shows that there are set of organizations that can not do without Gambling, even if they don't gamble, at least they might be making some good profits from it anyway.
It's boring to not gamble, even if one is gambling for profit making, he or she can not feel the vibes of someone who have been a gambler for sometimes, gambling can not take advantage of a gambler unless the gambler decides to create a room for gamble to take advantage of him or her, what I am trying to say is that only an addicted gambler might think that it is wring to know be involve in anything that has to do with gambling.
Gambling is fun but not for fun ::) so, if one thinks that it is bad to even know about or what gamble is all about them such person is apparently wrong.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: goldkingcoiner on December 19, 2023, 08:53:08 PM
Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)

Obviously the whole "we want to make this site safe for families" is just an excuse and a lie. I think they were just afraid of getting into legal trouble and had to cover their tracks. Something obviously happened or some regulations changed for them to become so spooked.

And to be honest, that is completely understandable. If I was the CEO of some streaming site, I would cut out anything which would make me legally liable.

Gambling streams have a lot of bad actors like scammers, underage children and bad financial advisers.

But there are other streaming sites that do not ban gambling, so it is really anybodies guess as to what is happening. It may have been an arbitrary decision by the owners and nothing more.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: carlfebz2 on December 19, 2023, 08:58:03 PM
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Obviously the whole "we want to make this site safe for families" is just an excuse and a lie. I think they were just afraid of getting into legal trouble and had to cover their tracks. Something obviously happened or some regulations changed for them to become so spooked.

And to be honest, that is completely understandable. If I was the CEO of some streaming site, I would cut out anything which would make me legally liable.

Gambling streams have a lot of bad actors like scammers, underage children and bad financial advisers.

But there are other streaming sites that do not ban gambling, so it is really anybodies guess as to what is happening. It may have been an arbitrary decision by the owners and nothing more.
Better safe than sorry kind of mindset,eh?

It would really be just that normal for an owner to be thinking up this way and its true that whenever you are getting involved on things or business that have those big amount ins and outs then
sooner or later there might be some issues that might be thrown off and this is something where these owners would really be thinking. Therefore, on the time that they do saw those kind of
probability then this is the time that they would be banning or removing it out. Speaking about being an alibi for it to be a family friendly then with the current issues or topic
that we do have now then it do really proves out that it was really just indeed an alibi.  ;D

Banning Gambling but allowing Nudity? Totally that opposite.. Checking out above on written or mentioned above that it was revoked or
cancel it out. Seems like that there's tons who do make out such complaint.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: wheelz1200 on December 19, 2023, 10:47:52 PM
Very easy, sex is very profitable.  Companies tend to look the other way when something becomes highly profitable for them.  Engagement on gambling probably didn't net them more views whereas nudity will.  Not that I agree with it but that's how capitalism usually works.  As long as there is money in it, it will be allowed


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on December 19, 2023, 11:11:37 PM
Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?
For me, I think the ban of Gambling activities which took effect last year was an indirect fight on Crypto by the U.S government,, and not just Twitch alone, because how will a platform which prohibited live-streaming of Gambling activities/sites which used Crypto for gambling, simply because it was said to protect it's users from harm, now accept/allow live-streaming of nudity, if only it's purpose was not to eradicate streamers promoting Bitcoin to a larger community. Because though those sites may not have been said to to be licensed by the U.S government as shown below, by why not regulate it instead of banning, if it's aim was not to exclude Crypto?

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Twitch said it is planning to ban the streaming of certain crypto gambling websites in an effort to protect users from potential harm.The ban will prohibit streaming of sites including slots, roulette and dice websites that aren't licensed in the U.S. or "other jurisdictions that provide sufficient consumer protection". It said the ban takes effect Oct. 18th, 2022.
Source:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/21/twitch-announces-ban-on-unlicensed-gambling-livestreams-after-backlash-.html


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: TimeTeller on December 19, 2023, 11:13:54 PM
Very easy, sex is very profitable.  Companies tend to look the other way when something becomes highly profitable for them.  Engagement on gambling probably didn't net them more views whereas nudity will.  Not that I agree with it but that's how capitalism usually works.  As long as there is money in it, it will be allowed

This will be a cash cow for this platform. That's a profitable move from them.
But it means, this medium needs parental guidance already, if not yet enforced.
That's business, so as long as the site is paying their dues, I believe authorities are looking the other way.
Or there are no complaints yet from the public, they will exhaust this business to get as much as they can here.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: PX-Z on December 19, 2023, 11:56:26 PM
Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)
I say it's just weird, they banned gambling because of "potential harm" it may cause, then allowed nudity for what? For more pleasure in the eye? I guess both of this can harm someone's self and other person when excessive thing  is done. Well, it's true having nudity content means more viewers lol.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on December 20, 2023, 05:26:47 AM
Twitch girls who use sexuality to attract viewers are always looking to push the boundaries of what is permissible. It's not just a problem for Twitch but every social media platform has people who misuse the platform in order to drive traffic to their Onlyfans. It's an awful trend that ruins these websites for some people. When platforms try to put some limits and eventually someone gets suspended there will be cries of censorship and sexism. It's a difficult position for them to be in because these controversial streamers generate revenue so banning them entirely might not be in their best interest.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: angrybirdy on December 20, 2023, 09:58:35 PM
Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-67715846.amp)
I say it's just weird, they banned gambling because of "potential harm" it may cause, then allowed nudity for what? For more pleasure in the eye? I guess both of this can harm someone's self and other person when excessive thing  is done. Well, it's true having nudity content means more viewers lol.

Seems like one if the reason why they allow this artistic nudity content is to get some viewers and user, which is they can also get it if they didn't banned gambling discussions in their sites, I don't have any idea about their basis why this nudity is allowed but maybe majority has been requested for It or maybe they are really a fan of Artistic representation.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: OgNasty on December 20, 2023, 10:05:18 PM
They got quite a bit of pushback from that decision and it was ridiculous, but I can understand why they did it.  Amazon has been paying for Twitch to lose money forever now.  Even the streamers wouldn't make any money if it weren't for Amazon's free subscription monthly with their customers prime accounts.  They now seem to be grasping at straws looking for profitability, which they may never find.  Microsoft may have been smart to ditch Mixer and let Amazon (and now Stake with their Kick investment) carry the industry by dumping money at unprofitable services until the industry can become more established.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 23, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
Well, these things actually don't Surprise me, it's obvious that on Twitch they want to do whatever it takes to get their income back, it's not a Lie that they are noLonger like they were Before , the fact of having eliminated the option that you can Allow it of the games , casinos and all this, well, something that the sinvgresos are not the ones Alleged , perhaps with this nudity and getting into the side that is art and all that, well it is basically to have more Clients and so that the platform does not die, it sounds harsh as this is , but when a Platform like this stops receiving the income that they unfortunately had, it is something to worry about , because we are People who sometimes eat , with the eyes and what we see we want, So since these things are what we might like , who doesn't like to see women who show a little more than normal ? to many , on the basis that in the World the best Advertising and that gives the most favorable Results is what is sold as Sex.

This at the time of agreeing to sexualize the platforms is because they are really desperate for them to want to have this type of access to the media, there are many platforms that compete with this, like Only Fans, so these things are not so bad because they see Think about it from the point of view of the Quality of the competitor they have, because some Weights won't last long if it will catch their Attention, but on a personal level these Types of things may cause curiosity but this is already very easy. so that they can have the maximum Audience again, the maximum Community, because things are very unreal like this, this drama I believe that not even putting the casinos back would they have confidence in them again, it is something Almost Impossible , because nothing like that is done, You have to be very Emphatic to do Things well and this Platform may have some gluins that they missed and that is that given the way they did it , it Seemed good, now they don't have a way to bring in more People.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: killerfrost on December 23, 2023, 03:24:03 PM
We're stuck in a land of softcore limbo. Twitch, in its quest to be squeaky clean, seems to have traded diversity for blandness. The thinking viewers, tired of the milk-toast content, have skedaddled elsewhere, leaving Twitch feeling like a one-trick pony with a broken saddle.

It's like a missed touchdown, a dropped mic, a faceplant in the face of potential. Twitch had the chance to be a platform that championed both creativity and responsibility, but they opted for the safe route, the crowd-pleaser, the "no thinking required" approach. Now they're left with a bunch of alienated viewers and a platform that feels more like a lukewarm bath than a hot tub of innovation.

So, the question is, can Twitch redeem itself? Can they find the sweet spot between content control and artistic freedom? Can they build a platform that caters to a wider range of interests without sacrificing viewer safety? These are the burning questions that need answers if Twitch wants to get back in the game, reclaim its crown as a truly impactful force in the online entertainment arena. It's time to ditch the clown shoes, pick up the juggling pins with some nuance, and show the world they can handle the heat, not just the lukewarm.


Title: Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity!
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on December 23, 2023, 03:26:17 PM
It's the mindset of the owners of Twitch to make money anyhow possible but to gain fans and users more is the end to this mindset because without the users, the concept and design would be flawed in total.

I don't know the reason for them banning gambling on their site, but allowing the site to accept nudity and even view it without as much as age restrictions is a minus and they must have a good reason which could be they probably can't manage a gambling platform on their site.