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Maybe thrilling was more appropriate than entertaining so feel free to use that!

As it seems I'm the only one betting on horse racing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465409.260) around here we need a bit of intro for this

So, two races out of 4 done by 12:18 GMT time and both horses I was backing, favorites,  Hunters Yarn and  Kourosh dropped their jockeys at the last hurdle, the first did it while being in the lead by 10 lengths, the second when battling for the first place, lost a bit on them and probably more to come as I'm 1 out of 5 bets right now but I didn't feel any remorse or regret or anything like this, moreover I feel really good because I saw some really entertaining races with a change in the last moment.
On the other hand, whenever I trade even if it's just small, really small positions and I lose a few $ I feel bad, I always tell to myself why I even bother to do it.

So hear me out:

With gambling, you chose on who to bet when to bet , once you do you you wait for the outcome at a fixed time!
With trading you chose your pair coins, you have to wait for the price to reach what you think it's an entry point and then set limits , watch the damn numbers even for days, even if you cash out in profit there can always be a regret you haven't kept the position opened.

Three is little that can influence a sport event outside of what you know, with coins it just takes a stupid hack or some gov going bananas on crypto out of nowhere while you sleep and you have your house full of trading alarms like you're in a police raid.

TA analysis is just Timeform, there is no difference between them , they show something that happened in the past with a coin and the form of a horse , in both cases you're looking at past performance and trying to figure the outcome.

I can't find numbers on the screen entertaining, if somebody tells me numbers and lines are more entertaining that this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EfcW5lou9Y), I think there is something wrong with you!  ;)

So prove me wrong (if you think I am), what am I missing?

Well it surely is more entertaining as by doing trading you get nothing as an emotion,sure you get that feeling I find it right and I won some money in the best case scenario while by gambling you are enjoying the graphics,music and theme of the slot,when you hit the bonus round and expect to win huge it is a feeling that you never will encounter in any trading session.

Trading is a whole lot more like sport betting as in there even when you bet you don't get more entertainment than in trading,you just place your bets and wait for the outcome,just like in trading you do your calls and wait for the outcome.

I gamble to have just fun.

I do not trade to have fun but to make money. Although I also use small amount of money to trade, just like gambling but a little bit more higher.

If asking which one is more entertaining, trading is not entertaining but exhausting.

Trading can come with a lot anxiety and stress especially when you trade with big money, I remember watching my one of friend during his trading session, it was something of laughter and I also felt some of pity for him because that day was a dreadful one for as he lost at almost all five trading session he partook and the funny part is the facial expressions he give me whenever the candle stick drop in a session he actually bought and it was as If he is going to cry but yet he kept trading more.

This depend on how passionate the person on gambling or in trading since people would really say that they are more feel relax when gambling than trading and same what will be the trader said for gambling.

But for me scenario is different since sometimes I feel relax while gambling especially when I am on winning side, but got stress when starting to lose since sometimes I can't take to see especially when seeing the stats which is starting to be on losing streak condition.

Same goes with trading I feel relax when bull market is happening but got stressed when bear season or corrections starting to occur.

So all of this is really situational and depends on how people approach it.

This does not depend on the one someone is passionate about. Trading is not fun at all and not entertaining in any way. If you are a scalper or a day trader, you will understand what I am talking about. No trader will say trading is entertaining. But if a trader is good, the trader will see trading more as a business and a way of making money instead. Gambling can not be seen as a way of making money because with experience, you have more chance to make money in trading.

I agree with you- everything boils down to preference.

Mostly, when people trade, they do it for profit and not for fun. I mean, as someone who traded before, believe me that it was not fun to see your trades on the red; and it was definitely not fun to see and wait the prices to decrease while losing at least 50% of the value of your investments.

Gambling, on the other hand, can be viewed both as a form of entertainment and as a means for profit. This is the reason on why people enjoy gambling purely on the entertainment side as they want to feel that adrenaline rush regardless on whether they won/lost their bet.

It depends on how each person views it, sometimes gamblers don't really like the habit of trading and vice versa, a trader doesn't really like the habit of gambling, that's what we're discussing in this discussion, I'm also a trader but not a trader who expects my investment to make a profit. fast because I prefer to invest in crypto trading for the long term not for the short term. so for me it won't make me wait too long because that's the right way to trade.

I usually use gambling just for entertainment and to have fun as you said because every bet and gambling we play depends on how we react to it. For some people, I think gambling as a source of income is not right, so I think gambling is to get peace. That's definitely for those who are looking for calm and entertainment, but if it's said that gambling is more relaxing than trading, it's definitely wrong for me personally because I think both are equally relaxing.  ;)

You may be right in your analysis but one thing is for sure. Trading is more certain than gambling meaning you are more in control of your trade to close them when in profit as compared to the gambling results which are luck based and no one have control over the win and losses.

For me, if i win money, then i become relaxed and it is also entertaining for me, no matter it is trading or gambling, As money makes you relax and you only feel fun when you are on the winning side.

So, from this point of view, Gambling has less chances of winning as compared to the trading but still, if you can make money from gambling, nothing is more relaxing and entertaining than gambling.

I will not prove you wrong but in fact, support your claim that gambling is entertaining, and relaxing and there's a lot of thrill attached to it, I also have the same experience in horse racing, off-track betting was so popular back then that there's so much buzz and tips going around and you need to be good in analyzing those tips coming from tipsters and insiders I remember almost hitting the winner take all races jackpot but unfortunately I failed to capitalize on an insider's tips because I have a hard time verifying in the last minute and I have lack of funds to diversify my bets, it was too late because the tips coming from an insider is the one that delivers in the last race of WTA although I have a consolation.
I feel that the race is exciting because the favorite whom I bet only loses by a fraction of a second, and there's a need for a photo finish to verify the real winner.
Gambling is more fun and exciting which makes it addictive even though you know that you can lose money you always come back to capture the thrill, and horse racing is one of them.

Trading, you're only watch the chart, graph, spam chat, market etc how can all of them is fun in the first place? :D

When you're bet in sport especially you're fan of the team or player, there's something that make you need to watch the game and it could make you enjoy as long as it's really competitive even your favorite team or player not win.

But I'm curious, who said trading is fun?

Of course these two things are very different between gambling and trading, where gambling is only recommended as a place of entertainment when you have free time or feel bored, while trading is specialized as a place to earn, another difference is, can you learn gambling? or does it mean that the strategy you bring to gambling will be useful? No, because there is absolutely nothing to learn there, which means that it remains in the initial understanding that gambling is nothing more than entertainment.

While for trading everything you can learn and qualified knowledge and experience will be able to make it easier for you to be able to achieve a pretty good profit, on the other hand I agree with your idea that trading activities are not fun because the place is not to seek pleasure but to earn, but maybe there will be some situations that can make you quite happy and one of them is for example when you can reach your daily profit target if you are a day trader. In terms of opportunities are also clearly different, not least because in trading if you have good enough skills and knowledge then obviously your chances of profit will also be easily achieved, while in gambling there is no such thing but everything depends only on how lucky you are. But on the other hand there are indeed few similarities such as in terms of risk management, both of these require mental and psychological calmness to stay fine and so as not to suffer significant losses.

Yes because we are not here anymore if we don't feel relaxed about it and we always find gambling more entertaining since the feeling also the excitement is different while playing then waiting for the outcome of our bets.

That's why I kinda agree with this that gambling is made for us to enjoy. Trading is for investment and I don't find it entertaining since I always feel that we need to be more serious dealing with our investment since we can't play lame around with that.

Gambling is basically an emotional addiction especially in my case I consider it as the only source of entertainment. I never take gambling seriously outside of entertainment. Especially one day a week I only bet on sportsbetting. But when I get enough free time, I gamble two or three days a week. But I never consider gambling as a source of income.
However, trading is one of my main sources of income for my bitcoins. I keep myself connected with trading regularly and to say that I manage my family support as well as my study expenses mainly through Bitcoin trading.

How is trading not luck?
You make it look like the price follows a certain track and somehow with a crystal ball you get everything right!
If that would be true how the f** is not everyone a billionaire by now?


Show me the numbers!
I doubt a 1/10 bet has less chance of winning than trading fufumemeloveplus coin!


Yup, exactly my pint, so what would be the difference between a gambling grasping his ticket at a racecourse and this guy having a free colonoscopy on his chair with every green or red candle?


Open a topic about trading being fun in the speculation board and you will see tons of them!  ;)


Again, why re not all traders billionaires by now and why there are hundreds of them still pinching pennies with raffles and signatures campaigns on tis forum when with knowledge you could achieve good profit? Oh, even better question, why are you not doing that yourself?  ;)

Basically gambling is game-based entertainment, not about making a profit in the game, because this is a paid game but that doesn't mean it's a means of making a profit, the profits from gambling are just bonuses, where people who have a good mindset will gamble as a entertainment alone will not consider gambling as a source of profit generation. by enjoying the game it will make us happy with every round. People who gamble for fun do this gambling not to seek income or profit.

different from trading, where we have to be able to manage it well, because trading has to produce profits, and perhaps this tends to be more necessary to produce profits, and it is true as you said, trading tends to be tiring because in trading there is of course an element of profits must be obtained and this must be done so that everything can run well.

The thing that makes the time pass at ease on gambling is you know by when there would be a result and mostly the result comes pretty soon.
While on trading, you could be waiting for months for the price to hit your upper or lower point.
The pro about trading is you don't lose all of it and if analysed better, you have better odds at winning. But it's not as fun as gambling.
I was lucky today and doubled my $50 to $100 trading a coin in 12 hours. But I could just bet all of my $50 bankroll and have x4 profits in seconds or a complete loss.
Personally I believe trading should be taken as a way of earning rather than a fun place to gamble like casino.

I don't think this is any argument for anyone who have done both. The perfect example is that gambling is like a stable coin while trading is like Bitcoin that is volatile. Gambling is not just more relaxing, it is also easier to win because the options are numerous. You can control your risk and target just like trading but gambling is more flexible and realistic.  You will never see anything like slippage in gambling unlike trading that slippage can mess up one's trade.

Generally, gambling is entertaining and trading isn't.

If you are both gambler and trader at the same time, you'll already know the answer to this. Me, I see gambling as a way to have fun while trading is for serious venture, either a job or business but we are expected to be profitable for our end result. However, in gambling, regardless of the outcome, there's still that entertainment value we would get if maintain being responsible in gambling.

Sometimes, after I trade, when I could cash out some profit, I use it in gambling to relieve the stress in trading.

If we sre going by this, it's going to spike out lots of arguments because everyone will want to argue his own point and give reasons for that, but i will say this is more of a person decision and taste, some of us can't do without gambling because it's entertaining quite alright and that's the general approach gamblers take on that, but the truth is that, was it everybody that makes fun out of gambling even when they are not winning, fo we still remember it's a means of being entertained when we are loosing bets, trading to some people is a form of business or investment, so many people take it more serious and don't joke with it, it's a form of retaining or regaining our asset value in currency investment and we can take such for fun like we do with gambling.

Gambling is supposed to be for entertainment, both have a costs and risk to them but I'd say obviously the gambling is supposed to be more fun.  Trading is in theory the work end of risk vs reward gambles, theres a fair comparison between them but in trading you will find your competitors are deliberately trying to trip you up and give a false perception.  Gambling is far more the game vs the people rather then each other, sometimes like Poker is vs each other but still I'd argue knowledge of the game with experience is your greatest challenge.

It's all about our perspective,

About sports betting my perspective contradicts completely with yours because if I bet on something it adds a bit more extra pressure in the back of my mind which can ruin the experience of watching the game, we just expect all the time the result should be in the favor of our side even if the bet amount is negligible because that's the common psychology of human we don't really like to lose.

Trading, we get to choose to be feel relaxed if we don't rush things and long-term trading is no stress once we fix how much our target price to be and open the trade and wait until it hits it which could be days or weeks but we know what is going to be the outcome of it. :D

This OP is true to a limit but I'll disagree to an unlimited point. Trading, when responsible, is managed and risk is reduced to its barest minimum.
Gambling, on the other hand, is not like trading. It has more to do with luck than skills which is the basic for trading. You also know what you are to loose when you set your parameters right but it's not the same with unhealthy gambling.

The trading will have the separate thrill and benefit,but the gambling had their own audience over ten decades because of it’s unique features.In general,the gambler was forced to loss some dollars in the gambling site.But still the gamblers will back to gambling in a week time,do you know what is the reason for it.Because the gambler will get the good entertainment in the gambling site.Some other gamblers will back to gambling site to recover the old loss occur in the gambling site.


The gambling addicted person should play the game for the joy with few dollars.So his addiction also fulfilled and only few dollars will be the loss for them.But if the gambling addicted person play for the longer time with huge dollars,he may loss all the dollars and start to get loan from their friends for the next game in the gambling site.

You can lose money on both but when it comes to the level of excitement, trading is nowhere near gambling, one of the reasons why people gamble is because they want to be entertained, but you cannot find someone who trades for fun, they only want to make money when trading so if you're going to create a poll I doubt if trading will win, trading is for serious people who wants to make money in the market, it takes a lot of effort and time and it's not fun doing this compared to gambling, in gambling you can just bet and forget and let luck play its.
You cannot do that in trading because in trading there are a lot of factors involved you're just throwing your money without any chance of profit if you just pick any trading pair.

Gambling and trading have different motives that drives them, trading is approached with the money making mindset and gambling is with a fun catching mindset. A man cut out to make just money is having less fun, if at all while making money. Trading also comes with lots of restlessness and panic and personally, I don't find that interesting at all.
Gambling on the other hand helps you relax and ease off stress bearing in mind that you're there to catch cruise and nothing more, and personally, I have little or no expectation from gambling which maintains me on the fun side of it. Most times, I gamble just to see how accurate I'm in predicting outcomes, and that's all.

Gambling is more fun inclined when you set out on it with the right motives, but beauty surely is in the eyes of the beholder.

With gambling you can feel the thrill, and excitement especially if you win the games but sometimes you also get stressed and keep overthinking what the outcome of the game will be. If we talk about trading, on the other hand, part of you will be sad and the feeling of exhausted because you daily check the situation of your account. If it is the state of your money gone high or low? But you will also be happy and rejoice when the market price increases.

So overall, gambling and trading can't be far apart because they have the same goal. You as the investor or the bettor and them as the instrument to give you profit and give you the thrill and problem as well. The problem because the moment you invest your time in this kind of money-profit thing, you have no choice but to finish what you have started.

 Just remember to be a responsible gambler and a trader.

This is a good summary of the difference between trading and gambling, but I think you can get entertainment from both of them equally. Both trading and gambling can be done freely whenever we feel like it. There is a difference between building a long term crypto portfolio where we don't need to do much trading and can enjoy watching our balances grow, and a more risky short term portfolio where we need to be more active and trade regularly. The big difference between gambling and trading is that with gambling there is no coming back of a failed bet. Once we place our money we quickly know if we won or lost, there is no in-between. This can be entertaining if we win, but once we lose all our money this is devastating. In trading we still own the coins and don't need to sell at a loss, there is still a chance for the next bull market to recover our positions. So, for small amounts gambling might be more entertaining, but for large amounts and our savings I would always prefer trading and building a large crypto portfolio.

First of all gambling and trading are 2 different things so basically it is not apple to apple if we compare both.
Secondly, gambling can be something more stressful if we out of control both emotionally and financially.
Finally, it is all about preferences because some people may enjoy more on trading than gambling and some other people feel the opposite.
And some may feel relaxed and entertained with both gambling and trading.

If you put it this way, it is quite thrilling especially that it gives one that thrill but the thing I hate about such sports such as horse 🐎 racing is that it takes away your emotions in the long term which affects your social well-being with people around you..

Btw which race course was this, would like to look at the racecard...

The thing about trading is that losing is part of this game,  and to succeed you need a tried and tested strategy to survive otherwise you will keep losing.

Btw to trade you also need to take away emotions from the equation as price could be going against you and the second you close a trade prematurely to save money that's the very second price turns into your direction and this is the kind of trading to avoid...

Someone this isn't a valid reason!!!

What you described is swing trading otherwise you want trades to be settled within a day or short time frame then go for lower time frames like the 1hour, 15minutes or 1min or possibly even the seconds timeframes....

For me I enjoy both worlds, but if you say gambling over trading is your preference then it's either you haven't allowed yourself to perfect your strategy or you bias on this...

Thrilling. I agree with that.

First off, trading actually gets boring once you get used to it unlike how it is with gambling.
You on the other hand are in horse racing so I think you will also understand sports gamblers because it's just the same that we have picks on what horse we want to win. Boxer in boxing, Fighter in MMA, Teams in Basketball, and so on.
The difference is we feel the game whenever we watch them while our money is on the line and there's a part that we cheer our lungs out while we feel the heat of the moment. That never occurred to me in trading and I don't think it will, ever.
I have been a sports gambler for a long time but until now I still get that feeling of being hooked with the game and I try not to miss one. Sometimes I watch 3 games in one day when there are so many listed.
I never get bored yet and I don't think I will. The gambling part adds so much flavor to make sports more entertaining.

I agree with you OP, gambling is fun and relief from stress of the day or stress during the week. You can entertain yourself with your friends during the weekend with your favorite gambling games as long as you are not after making profit. Like this  weekend, I am a fan of sportbet and I always chill with a bottle of beer with my friends to watch the matches and see if we made the right bet.

Trading is to complicated and have no fun in it because it is stressful and needs high level of skill in it. I don't trade and from what I have observed traders don't smile until they have made profit but you will see a gambler losing and he is still happy.

I don't do horse race gambling but I am not so sure about your claim, because I believe that gambling is more entertaining than trading, anyone who goes after trading goes there to make money, there is nothing like entertainment in trading, you are going to be on the edge of your sit watching how things goes, even if you are using small money in trading you are always going to hope you win, but...

I like trading for one reason that I believe its good enough, that's skills, if you are good with trading you are going to make more money with confidence, knowing that you will make more money since all that matter is how good you are, unlike gambling..

I turn gambling into entertainment because

1. The chances of winning is far too slim to risk any high amounts on, there is not too many skills important in gambling than to manage your bankroll.

2. Its you against the house, another human just like you selling you a lottery ticket where the chances of winning only belongs to the house ( the CEO ).

Its just safer to use small money and watch your game, if anything good happens its good and if the other part happens you don't lose any good money.

For me, Skills on anything wins more than taking risks on lucks, you are like a blind man without his walking stick.

stompix you are not missing anything. Anyone who tries to prove you wrong just loves trading more than gambling. The person is beginner in gambling and a intermediate or expert in trading.

With how you have narrated horse race betting, I have now taken interest in it but in my country we don't do horse racing. In gambling even if you lose money, you leave there thrill to an extent most especially when you played your cards right and followed it religiously. In trading you must follow the market - when it is opening, when it is closing. Your heart would constantly be racing if you didn't set a stop loss etc. The point is gamblers are calmer than traders ;D

There’s a counter part of this on trading which is Binary Trading or Options trading which you will predict what’s the price position(below or over) to the current position on the given time frame same with betting on gambling.

However trading options is boring because you are just waiting and watching for the price compared on sports betting or in your case horse racing which you can enjoy watching the game and at the same time feel the thrill due to the money involved.

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/results/2023-12-16/fairyhouse/774267/irish-stallion-farms-ebf-beginners-chase
Hunters Yarn was in like a no contest race, there was no horse to threaten him other than the fence
https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/results/2023-12-16/cheltenham/770961/jcb-triumph-trial-juvenile-hurdle-gbb-race
Kourosh dropped at the last, he is not shown as favorite in results but it was best odds 1 hours before the meeting, 5/4 compared to 7/4 for An Bradan Feasa




How can you settle your trades if the market doesn't move?
The game will start at 12 and finish at 14, the market can say FY and not move for 3 days! What can you do but wait like a meerkat on top of your pile of trades?


Same question that I asked others, if you think trading is just about knowledge and no luck, how come you're not a millionaire or billionaire by now relaxing on some beach with two yachts and 20 lambos in the parking lot? Oh wait, it's not like that in reality, right?


I'm watching only UK and Irish races despite not being from the UK, my country has just a few races like 4 festivals that are really of any importance and I never bet on them as I always find it hard to go again though all the history and time form of jockeys and horses.
So, you can bet on everything that matches your time, I would bet on US racing but because of the time schedule they are at night here  so it just feels weird.

In essence, trading is the same as gambling. You can study a lot of trading books, draw seemingly correct charts, develop a bunch of strategies - and still everything can go wrong. The market is completely unpredictable. If you engage in gambling using certain strategies, you can also achieve stable results

I don't know for sure what percentage of middle to lower class people gamble just for fun, what is clear is that the percentage is definitely high because many of them get depressed when they lose gambling.
But for most middle and upper class people, gambling is a way to have fun, not a place to earn income.
Likewise with trading, it will be very tiring and stressful when we take it as something very serious, therefore it must be considered as something fun.

I find trading pretty boring I have a hard time with graphs and the many lingo and jargon associated with them, gambling is fun, entertaining exciting gambling platforms promote themselves as an entertainment portal but you can not say the same with trading, all he books and strategies and experience about trading are all about making money, it hardly mentioned that trading is fun so you should not expect to make money.

The trading entertainment will be felt only if you had earned some money from it.If you had loss money by the random trading,then trading will be look like the boring subject to yourself.If you want to hear the music of trading,you should learn the music tone of the trading skills in the trading.Like wise gambling also the interesting subject,if you had improved the skills in the gambling and make some huge profit from the gambling as kike the professional gambler.The expect of the gambling will survive in the gambling for the longer period by their analysis of gambling in each game and rectify their mistakes in the next gambling games.The gambling will be the entertainment giving,if you had never expected the profit from it.

You need to do a lot of work as trader in terms of market analysis than you would do when it comes to gambling before taking your decisions, however both involves calculation but you do more in trading.
No doubt gambling is more entertaining and a bit relaxed than trading because it already designed in such a way that it will be entertaining and fun but trading can be fun too when you understand the market and you are scooping some profits out of the market.

Considering the game display or even the casino vibes, you can easily tell that gambling is indeed more entertaining and fun to play compare to trading where you need to be more serious because in just a click, you can lose everything.

Trading needs your focus and you can’t win in trading if you don’t know how to analyze. If you want to be entertained and to have fun, then choose gambling but know that its risky too and of course no guaranteed return.

There is nothing to prove wrong because I agree with you. Gambling and trading are both ways to make money, but one is often said not to be a source of income and the other a source of income even though money can be made from it. Because Gambling is meant for fun and entertainment purpose, there is already a relaxation mindset towards it. Trading is known to be a serious business where lots of money can be made and lots of money lost in a few minutes, the thought of that already is very unrelaxing.

I've seen many discussions comparing gambling with trading. For me the very simple answer can be found if the person does the following: take 2000$ and give one person 1000$ and tell them to play for 12 months every day and then take another 1000$ and give it to another person to keep trading for 12 months. after 12 months we would see which of the two people lost all the money earlier or which two people at the end of the 12 months were left with a profit. In gambling games, as long as the person continues playing, the person will not make a profit, only the person who plays and is lucky enough to win a lot of money that overcomes all losses and then stops playing forever.

while in the case of trading, the risks are also very high, and few people really make money, they are those who trade long period charts, something like 4h or 6h candles, but at least there are people who profit, despite be a very small number of people. I believe that you are having luck in horse racing now because you probably like and know this sport well, but these are very excessive cases, in general in games of chance you lose money and do not make a profit, which is why even governments are warning that gambling should be viewed as just fun

When it comes to entertainment its true that Gambling can be more relaxing than to trading.
Just imagine the Retired people, are they still spend their time in trading? Of course not and that’s why they gamble in casinos and they are enjoying it. Though of course this also applies to everyone, gambling can be more fun than trading, and in gambling you don’t need to analyze here not unless you do sports betting.

Gambing is for fun so we can not deny the fact that there are many gamblers who wants to gamble more cause they think that gamble is for happiness and Also when you got your luck then you will win too so you can get profit in it.  While in trading we need to focus on in it's a serious thing cause will aiming for more  profits. And also when gambler use his extra money to gamble then it's felt comfortable cause when he loss then that's part of the game nothing to worry cause he gamble for entertainment.

It is clear that betting is more entertaining than trading, because in trading we only look at the numbers, and continue to make an analysis so that the activity continues to bring us profits. Because in trading, there is nothing more enjoyable than profits.

Unlike the case with betting, because there are two things you will enjoy that can give you pleasure and entertainment. The first is when you watch the game, and the second pleasure is when you win the bet.

But although these two activities both involve money, if we talk about risk, of course the risk of loss when betting is much greater than when trading. So in doing both of these things we are required to be more precise and more careful in making calculations and in making an analysis.

And talking about betting on horse racing, I have never bet there. because I do not have an interest in watching horse racing.

Yeah, Nobody wants to look on the chart 24/7 that is just full of line and bars without any thing happening. The only time trading becomes intense like gambling is when you open a leverage trading position while the current market price is hovering near your liquidation price.

Only hardcore traders find trading entertaining but the majority still preferred gambling because it’s mechanics is very straightforward and easy to play while you can have potential just like on trading.

Well, I have to agree with your own point of view OP.  Gambling is designed for fun and entertainment so it's way more relaxing on our part gambling compared to trading. Gambling gives us the opportunity to play exciting games and enjoy them, while trading focuses more on mental activities that promotes development of skills and working strategies that makes it more boring and tiring and somehow challenging on some reputable traders.

Despite of the differences, trading remains more profitable for me and gives more satisfying profits. Unlike gambling, you have to accept the fact that to gamble is to lose, that way you will find it more entertaining and profitable at some point.

Gambling is much simpler than trading, even a kid could do bet and win money. Trading is complicated since there are a lot of factors that you have to consider just in able to profit and earn money, like for example analysis, techniques, charts, etc. Plus you can say that when you do trading in also draining as you would need to consider your emotions and feelings that could affect your decision-making, if you are drained of course your physical health would be affected as well, it's like a domino effect I think.

If you make a wrong judgment in trading you will eventually lose money, which is similar to gambling, the difference is gambling is much more fun and thrilling, but it is still based on luck while for trading you can reduce the risk if you have knowledge and experience in this field. Some people prefer to watch their money grow by simply watching sports, horse racing, esports, etc. than watching charts waiting for some miracle to happen.

It does entertaining, but i doubt gambling will be relaxing in any way even trading. Well, it depends on personal preference but that's too much to consider as relaxing for me. Relaxing for me is drinking a cup of coffee while looking outside trees in my terrace, simple words i'm at peace. I won't get peace in gambling lol thinking what's my next move, if my bet will win a such lower odds, etc.

I tend to believe that waiting and watching your trade is stress filled unlike enjoying your game of sport (football or basketball). I don't know if you watch the FIFA world cup final between France and Argentina, boy it was filled with lots of excitement as the two teams were playing and entertaining the football world and to think I placed a bet on Argentina to be champions which was more entertaining and funs even more as they finally defeated France after all the drama which I enjoyed very well.

When we do speak about relaxing and entertaining then we could really actually say that gambling is really that much more fitting out with this kind of criteria or approach on which it do really make out someone do able to enjoy their leisure time. Whereas if we do speak about trading then this is something that you would really be needing up to take serious considering that we would really be needing up to be wise for us to earn money.
It is something that you would really be needing up to be learnt on which considering that this is a skill which is something that you would really be needing out to acquire to go with long term approach.
Making money with trading is different with gambling.

Both would really be that the same in terms on making money aspect but when it comes to risks factor then it would really be that obvious that gambling does have more.
Luck does play an important part when it comes to gambling on which this is something that you would really be needing up on which this isnt something
that could really be that applied on trading which it do really mostly rely on analysis and skills of course.

I believe it would also depend on the amount that you gamble. It's simple to tell everyone that gambling is not stressful, and more relaxing if the person only gambles with $1.00 for each throw of the dice, in each spin of the slot machine/roulette, or each deal in BlackJack. But instead of betting $1.00, try gambling with $1,000 per throw, spin, or deal. 8)

Plus if you can prove that you are truly more relaxed in gambling, and that you could stop anytime you want either you're winning or losing, then you might not have a gambling problem in the casino. But you might have a gambling problem in the exchange.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Trading and gambling are almost the same, in fact traders can still be considered gambling if they only rely on luck. Without analysis, traders just bet their money on a coin in the hope that demand in the market will increase and that affects its value, but trading something that starts with analysis can be interpreted as not gambling.

Trading coins or tokens that have no real use is gambling. I don't see any reason why demand for such a coin would increase if not for market manipulation by some groups, but when the coin has utility then I think there are good fundamentals to expect an increase in interest.

I cannot even remotely get myself interested in trading at all. Seems like a very boring way to spend my days. With sports, I can place a bet and be entertained for 2-3 hours per game and relax and enjoy myself. Basically, I agree with your assessment that betting sports is way more entertaining.

For me, gambling is really entertaining and sometimes it's also relaxing. This is how I feel every time I gamble, I still can't say that gambling is more entertaining and relaxing compared to trading because I'm just a beginner in trading, I'm still learning about trades but when it comes to gambling I can say that it's really fun play it especially if you know how to play and you always have a limit you won't get addicted to gambling then.

First of all, Trading has nothing to do with gambling and they are both in different industries, gambling industry online is not a very new thing with betting websites and online casinos, crypto casinos. While trading was always there from trading in call centers and banks.
But if you consider yourself trading without following any basics or strategies to open your trades, you are literally gambling with your money and depend on luck. The difference will be more than just feelings and emotions when someone is really trading will have have less emotions and understand what he's doing just like a job with more confidence.
Gambling will play on your emotions and thinking too much about luck, betting on your favorite team or playing slots you will only depend on luck and hope you win something.

If we talk about entertaining then of course, gambling will be more fun and entertaining. Traders are more likely to gamble than anyone else, good traders will understand the difference and may enjoy gambling more. So yes I agree with you on this and nobody can prove you wrong.

Like you have said, gambling is more fun, and a gambler gets more relaxed and comfortable than trading. But when it's time for trading, the trader is very serious and focused because what they are only aspiring for is profit.

I am a trader and also a gambler, and personally, while trading, there is nothing like fun because all your attention is just to read the chart, make your prediction, enter the trade, and expect your profit or loss.

But the first day I played "Crash," I know I lost a lot of money that very day, but I was just glued to the game because it was fun all together, despite the loss.

There is slight differences between trading and gambling since the both involves financial decisions. Gambling can be a little relaxing compared to trading since trading requires a lot of skills for one to make money in the market. Trading is more of technicality than gambling which is more of trying our luck. We can make money from the both depending on how we want to go about it. Gambling can be more profitable even when we don't have the full skill on the bets we are taking. We need to make sure that we go for what works for us between the two so that we don't keep accumulating loses everytime.

You are mostly right about the entertainment angle but this depends on the person too imo. If a person is a fan of watching sports, gambling might be more entertaining for him. If a person don't watch sports, not interested in any form of gambling but likes to manage portfolios, then it is a whole different story. Trading/investing and  gambling have so many things in common but they are also so different than in each other at the same time.

There are many people who lost their interest in watching sports so gambling may mean nothing to them. These people may still get some entertainment from managing their portfolios (especially if they are making the successful trades which generate profits) so your arguments don't apply to these people.

Sometimes making money is more fun than losing it. Just saying.  :P

It is something that you could be able to compare about having a work and having some leisure time. Its true that trading is never been that fun but rather you would really be needing that serious
approach towards it because you cant really just hover around and enjoy trading because it doesnt really fit out with that.  It is really just like more than a job and we know that its not
entertaining at all since you would really be needing that kind of approach on which it is really just that right that you should really be that serious on dealing with
it.

As for gambling then this is something that we can tell that we can really be able to enjoy. The overall essence would really be that different because you are dealing with something
which is entertaining and something that could give out some thrill specially when you are choosing on the team on which you do see on whose gonna win.
There's thrill and excitement and this is something you can able to feel out when you do make trades.

I will not argue and I agree that gambling is more relaxing and entertaining if the comparison is with trading. Who likes to look at those red and green candles, they aren't entertaining. What's entertaining is to watch your favorite horse, player, team, hold or kick that ball with our favorite sports. The visual is way better and no matter what is the outcome of our bets, it doesn't matter a lot right? And that's because we're avid fans of these sports.

We don't have a grudge if we lose because we know that's part of the game and betting. But the value that it gives a bettor to each of us is different and have a significant impact. If we're going to look at those times that we're having a bad time, we might just think to watch these sports and place some bets. It's either going to give us some relief as we win or more frustration but let it be whatever happens, we bet and we gamble.

That's the beauty of gambling and it's entirely different from trading. Someone may become instantly rich with their trades but not with betting with placing single bets but the feeling, the emotion and memories that are attached to these bets will be made and will be remembered.

I think it’s all about the intent and purpose which makes you feel like gambling is more relaxing than trading.I mean it should be first and foremost cause gambling’s supposed to be an entertainment method you take for when the other pastimes you have just couldn’t cut it for you. Trading on the other hand is your passive income stream to get those moolahs apart from your regular emplpyment, and since money’s more in the line with trading. It only makes sense that you have to be more stressed and serious when it comes to trading.

Some people may feel like trading’s the relaxation facet, and honestly, that’s okay too!

though we have our own take on this matter. but yes, i do agree with the OP that watching that horse race is far more entertaining than staring all those numbers and candlesticks. but maybe, it depends on the person himself. as we have our own preferences on how to entertain ourselves. but i guess, a lot more people will enjoy the horse race because we prefer more on visuals. even if we don't bet on that race, just watching the game itself would make you root for certain horse.

however, there are indeed people especially those veteran traders who prefer to look at their screens all day and figuring all those numbers what it can do to their trading moves to earn more profits.

maybe, what the OP can do is find someone who is a rock solid trader thru and thru, and interview him and get insights. in that way, we will know his take on this matter. is he enjoying what he's doing or will he also find horse racing a more fun to watch?

I won't prove you wrong but in fact support your stance that gambling is both more relaxing and entertaining than trading.  Even with bots trading is a boring activities since all we have to deal with trading is the charts, price movement and researches of the fundamentals.  It is a tiring activity unlike gambling where we can just put our bet and watch how our session unfolds.

Gambling is also labeled as entertainment that is why it is way more relaxing and entertaining than trading.

I wouldn't disagree any less with you because the basic and primary aim of gambling is basically for entertainment so we should be expecting any less from it except for people who has probably turned it into a profession and a means off making money which in some cases isn't proper enough because it's more of probability.

Trading is something that requires skills and much of dedication, disciplin and consistency because it's a professional thing, some persons literally learned it as a profession in which they engage in to make money and see it as a job so it can not be seen as entertainment because it's serious business where big institutions even some government organizations do get engaged in trading so I see no room for entertainment in such a serious business which in some cases has a determining effect on certain economy at some levels but gambling none of these is involved it's basically entertainment.

There is nothing to prove wrong here OP, you are indeed correct, gambling has that entertainment part than trading, I am a lazy gambler and that's why I don't do poker and any games that have to do with stress, I like slots because it is easy to play, the danger in gambling is using too much amount of money, this will surely subtract the fun and entertainment from your experience and its likely you that you will lose.

Trading is a no skills no gain haven, at this point you will lose money because of the lack of knowledge, but you don't need that in gambling, just relax and have some fun, go home with zero balance and comeback another day, with few dollars you are good, unlike trading, the stress that daily traders go through is so much that I don't want to be one, this is why sometime I prefer to do copy trading on bybit or Bitget.

I know that trading is less risky if you are very good at it, I also know that the chances of making money from trading is higher and better than gambling, but there is no space for any entertainment at all, you are look the chart very closes and keep monitoring the price action, in slots I just click on rollers again and again.

If you want to trade, of course you are not allowed to have fun because trading is not entertainment like gambling, therefore, before trading, at least understand about crypto trading, at least do a lot of research before trading, invest, buy and sell certain cryptocurrencies, it is quite difficult to trade without knowledge, one mistake can lose. money and ran out because of buying the wrong tokens or coins on a scam project.

This is different from playing gambling which is provided specifically for fun because it is entertainment for anyone who wants to play it. The point is, don't ever take gambling seriously because basically gambling is not a place to make money consistently except for trading and even then you need to understand the science properly otherwise you will nil, it's true that gambling is more relaxing but in my opinion there's no difference between the two.

I think gambling's way more fun than trading.  When you gamble, you can just relax and be entertained without worrying too much.  But trading requires research and discipline - not as fun.  Before you start trading crypto or buying and selling coins, you really should understand what you're doing and study the market so you don't lose money.  Gamblings more of a recreational thing where you're fine with taking risks and losing a bit. Trading seems too serious in comparison

Gambling is both calming and entertaining. However, we must take our own stand on this issue. Gambling addiction may impact people from all walks of life. Gambling progresses from a harmless diversion to an unhealthy routine with severe consequences. A gambling problem can strain your relationships, hinder your employment, and lead to financial disaster whether you wager on sports, scratch cards, roulette, poker, or slots in a casino, at the track, or online. You might even do things you never thought you'd do, like rack up massive debts or steal money to gamble. Trading, on the other hand, necessitates competence and is defined as the voluntary exchange of products or services between economic players. Because interactions are voluntary, commerce is often thought to benefit both sides.Financial market trading is engaging, interesting, and absorbing. However, just like with traditional casino gambling, you might become addicted. Trading addiction, like any serious addiction, may be costly both socially and economically. To summarize, while both gambling and trading can be enjoyable, if you cannot control yourself, it can result in both extreme and significant damage.

In trading you will have to study, so it's quite boring as you'll feel the school scenario. Unlike with gambling, just learn the game and you are good to go. Most of us doesn't make research, we just gamble relying on luck, that's why it's more suitable for us when we are looking for entertainment.

Although at some point it could also be stressful, especially if we are losing big money, or we loss control, but with trading, you'll feel the stress and pressure on a daily basis if you do day trading.

that's right, gambling is indeed a means of paid entertainment where there are benefits if you are lucky and luck is the determinant of winning or losing, but many of the dominant gamblers they get defeated. why is that because gambling has a random system where victory and defeat cannot be predicted correctly, and in my opinion there is no pattern or trick to get a win in gambling but luck will determine everything. gambling can be done by everyone because there is gambling that does not require having skills, where everyone can play it while having money

But unlike trading, trading itself is not for fun like gambling, there are many things that must be understood to be able to benefit. also not everyone can do it, even if they have enough money but if they do not have a good understanding of gambling then there will be no profit to be gained. learning about trading needs to be mastered to do trading, because after all, people who trade are certainly people who want big profits, but this is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand, many things must be understood and must be faced, of course there are risks in itself. but the similarity between gambling and trading is that it has a profitable side, and both involve money.

So you're telling me I'm making money from gambling because I know what I'm doing opposite to trading where you need....knowledge to make money?
See the contradiction here?  :D

In my opinion there is no worse than degenerates gamblers than traders who truly believe all it take is data, they are nothing other than lottery numbers analyst who think they see patterns everywhere, they deem a form of a horse as something lucky while at the same time they thing the price on the 10 and 20 of the month clearly indicates the way to Laputa  ;)
I've not yet seen a trader, a TA, a graph anything that would have predicted oil going to -30 a barrel!!!!
Why? Because past data can't predict future if something close to the  future has not yet been lived at least once in the past!

With crypto, the bias is even worse, everyone says you can make money out of trading, no way, for real? Trading an assets that has made 4000% in ten years is profitable? Who would have thought so! It was the same before 1929, everyone was making money, their knowledge was newspaper and radio shows and still even housewife were making tons , then reality hit, just how the bear market hit bitcoin and made thousands lose money after money after money!

Again, there is no difference between me saying that this hors ewill win since he is a course and distance winner in a higher grade than his adversaries and a trader saying that after 10 days from now on the price will go up 5% because the same happened 3 days ago!


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5) Finance workers are 1.51 times more likely to commit suicide

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In the year 2020, more traders committed suicide than farmers

So, what's the difference?

Horse racing is fascinating because we're watching real athletes and their unpredictable actions. Watching your horse, like Hunters Yarn or Kourosh, defy or collapse to odds in real time is thrilling. You felt good despite the losses, showing the enticing nature this sport is. The spectacle and unpredictability get our adrenaline pounding, right?

Indeed, trading, especially in the volatile crypto market, is different. It's about close examination, alertness, and tension, not just numbers. You're right about constant monitoring and what-ifs after profits. But, ave you thought about binary options? Choose a position, select criteria, then wait for a specified outcome time, like betting. It reduces trading to a simple yes/no question, which is a lot like betting on horses. And yes, futures trading or anything with leverage can be fucking stressful

If you want to say that TA doesn't affect the future (future results) in any way, then you are damn right. Any trader's or horse racing forecast based on this is no better than fortune telling predictions based on coffee grounds.

If you don't find the numbers on the screen more interesting than betting on horse races, then don't trade. What is the problem.

Do what you enjoy most. Everyone chooses the type of activity that they like (or can afford) most. There's nothing to prove here.

Trading is a serious business and it is not designed to entertain people. If you go to the conventional stock exchange buildings you will see people wearing suits and ties and looking attentively at graphs and charts. There is nothing funny about trading. But sports or other casino games are usually designed not just for gambling but it entertain the players. Gambling could be serious business to some people but if you want to enjoy the gambling atmosphere visit a physical sports bet shop when they are playing live games. You will see someone who has just lost a bet still smiling and chatting with fellow gamblers.

Another reason why trading doesn't bring fun is because traders usually invest huge amounts in trading. So a loss is usually more painful than losing small funds that are used for gambling. Gamblers don't stake more money than traders because they are aware that we should bet what we can afford to lose. But traders see trading as a professional, so they can put in huge funds.

Gambling has it all, fun, entertainment and stress free, but thats if you go with the safest gambling strategy, and this is using a very small money on the games, you can't enjoy a football match if you risk too much money on it, you will have your mind in panic mood until the game is over, its not worth it.

Gambling is a matter of choice, do you want to have some great time or you want to make money? Choose your destiny, but I can promise you can if money making is your sole purpose of gambling you will likely lose a lot of money, enjoy your time in gambling, risk what you can afford to lose and enjoy your time.

Those who have great times gambling are those who don't care about how much they want to make from gambling, they lower their risks and have great time doing it, whatever happens doesn't matter, having a great time is the best.

There's no doubt gambling is more entertaining. However, gambling is considered to be more risky than trading. Gambling was created as a way to provide entertainment for people who are looking for some enjoyment or an activity to relax. That's why a lot of people prefer to spend more time in gambling than trading. Trading can be more fun especially when you understand the market by knowing how to do Technical Analysis, and also if you are making profits out of your trading. Aside from that, in trading you should be serious in everything, in return, if you win, the happiness of predicting the market right is really fun.

We're talking here about the emotion though, so let's set aside the risk since we all know that gambling are more risky.
If you want to have fun and enjoy your self-time then gambling can be a good source of that but of course, you can still have different emotion especially when you lose your money not unless you are ready for that. I enjoy placing bet on my favorite sports and betting makes the game more exciting and challenging at the same time.

I think whether gambling is entertaining or not really depends on how people treat and respond to gambling itself, if they come firmly just looking for fun and entertainment then obviously it will happen, but on the other hand there are also many who come with the aim like they trade that is looking for income, no other mistake in understanding what gambling is the main cause, they misunderstand just because there is a chance of winning there so it makes them act out of control just because to realize their hopes and expectations.

Back to the original topic, basically trading is not intended for anyone to seek entertainment because there is no aspect that can make you entertained except for some thrill from the profit you managed to get and make your planning go well. Trading in particular is a place to build a career of success with the success of the learning process and the experience you do and get that can certainly make you consistently profitable, but that is not in the concept of gambling, and that is why many say that gambling should be considered as a place of entertainment only and nothing more than that.

The stress and anxiety that you will feel in either gambling or trading would probably depend on two things. The size of the bet and the length of time the bet hanging in the balance. How long is a basketball game? If you place a $10,000 bet on a basketball game and your team is behind by 20 points, you will definitely NOT be relaxed and entertained. It will be the same feeling if you made a $10,000 trade in a very volatile shitcoin that fell -50% in the same duration of time as a basketball game.

Has something to do with visuals, basically. Is there something exciting with price charts in red or green? Also these two has different idea. Perhaps with statistics in both concepts. The pnly way trading will be associated in gambling is when you are having no plans for your trade; without any pattern to follow and without any strategy being used. With gambling, you may base on player's stats or team composition to help you create a decision. Gambling is more enjoyed as well simply because even without money involved, perhaps with sports, it is already entertaining. While with trading, most of the time, those who enjoy doing it are ones which are profitable or often having winning trades unlike with gambling wherein you would still be able to somehow enjoy despite of the outcome.

I don't think there is anything to prove you wrong and you are not missing anything, apart from what you said, gambling has been built for centuries to be a part entertainment and casinos have capitalized on that part of gambling to attract more people/gamblers, it's no wonder people find it more relaxing and entertaining than trading.

Counter!
When the game is over is over, you lost and you move on, nothing is changing this.
If you get your leverage trade closed because of a 50% dump the pain is not over yet, you might wake up tomorrow and see the coin up by 1000%, which might make you redecorate the walls with your head once more.

And no, before you even say it, if we bring just hodl in the discussion that's no longer trading, buying something at 50$ and waiting for years to reach 100$ is long term investing not trading.

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And a small update on the OP:
Yesterday,  as I said, Hunters Yarn felt at the last hurdle while in the lead, jockey Townend, trainer W P Mullins, owner  Simon Munir & Isaac Souede, favorite at 1/3.

Today...
FUN FUN FUN,  Jockey Townend,  trainer W P Mullins, owner  Simon Munir & Isaac Souede, favorite at 2/5
Anyone can guess what the f***er did at exactly the last hurdle?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

If trading can be done and done easily then it seems that I can answer your question and can easily confirm your words that they will be able to become billionaires just by being a trader, but on the other hand I think everyone already knows or has even experienced the difficulty of trading, although I previously said it can be easy but on condition that they have good insight, experience, skills, planning, management and control. I found a lot of pretty good advice on this forum regarding the world of trading but on the other hand I can't just conclude that they are one / some people who  have succeeded and become billionaires, of course it is good for me to say with a little conclusion that they are one of the people who are also in the process of trading along with giving some advice based on experience. :)

I'm not a trader and I hate it more or less like OP, so I won't try to defend it. I'm more of a gambler than a trader and I gamble because to me the rules are clear and the bet is settled almost instantly. It doesn't keep me on edge for days. Let's say I play cards, I know if I'm on top of my game or not and I can stop whenever I want and know that it's over and I have the money that I have.
When you trade you don't sleep because you want to check if your order is still there or if someone came and dumped their stash to liquidate you. It's unhealthy and not worth the nerves if you ask me.

I hold bitcoin and I don't care about the price and trades. I know that even if it's down 50% I'm still up a couple hundred % and it's going to recover. I sleep like a baby.
Trading is like playing a rigged game over a long period of time.

Bro!!, I have to screen your name 3 times because like do you gamble that much?  :D Alright! I want to gist you about one of the saddest day of my life in gambling, there was these people they are called Punters in Nigeria, they are popularly known as sport bettors who have made millions from sport betting and they used to share their betting code for followers and anytime he drop them, they copy and stake them in their respectful account and the odds are usually high that even if you bet small amount, you can win something big to at least a million(in Naira).

So, this day, I have been seeing the trend of X NG anytime they win bets because they appreciate these Punters when the street win bets and I was compelled to follow the crowd. In my first 1 week, nothing was won but I don't feel anything because what I stake in a week sometimes is not up to a dollar if you do the conversion because I wanted to test. After the struggle of having like 35 games, we did win 30 and lose 4-5 but we were about to win one bet of 31 of 30 in one faithful Saturday. It was under 3.5 game selection, this game was almost done in 90 minutes with 3 total, everyone including me has anticipated what to use the money for only for them to add an additional goal at the last minute. I was so mad man, it was not the money I stake that pained me but the unrealized money I was expecting to win.

Moral of this story, trading has a way you can opt out and the use of trailing profit and stop loss can help avoid losses and take profits but in gambling, you can't do that because you will most likely had nothing. While trading, you can hold further if there is a loss but in gambling, you can't do that in gambling.

It truly depends on the person because if you're a gambler and you like what you're doing and at the same time you're able to control yourself then you should be fine. What people always think of with gamblers is that we're out of control and we're just here to lose money. But to be honest, they can't speak the same thing with the traders. All they think are the same with them that are they're all good and they're not gambling at all.

Well, there's the similarity of it that they're also risk takers but the thing is that they're praised more than the gamblers and it's not surprising at all. I am not saying that gamblers should be praised but the comparison sometimes is off the beat and people who likes to give vague arguments about gamblers don't look at the other side of the fence wherein there are people that often lose more money instead of winning. And yes, I am speaking about the traders.

They're glorified and people think that they're the smartest amongst us because they make money and they show some analysis but little did they know, that most of them are also losing and they don't just want to expose it to the public that they've been losing a lot of money and only wants to show the wins that they have. Well, we're on the social media age where people only wants to show good things and not their bad sides.

In the end of the day, gambling and crypto short term trading are the same thing. Traders are analyzing charts, price fluctuations, watching statements from governments and influencers about cryptocurrencies, but it still doesn't guarantee they are going to be in profit when doing day trading (the market is unpredictable on short run). The same can be said about gamblers who are comparing statistics from athletes and teams. The luck factor is necessary and determinant in both categories.

Now, the subjectiveness of each person will lead them to have more fun and feel more thrill through gambling or through trading. There isn't a winner or best alternative in this case. Some people feel more excited watching sports matches, horse races, live fights, while others increase their adrenaline levels intensively by watching charts moving in real time... After all, they are different routes to reach the same destiny, which is always the raised dopaminergic state of increased pleasure and satisfaction.

Yeah, there's the similarity and that's the comparison we get from everyone. But the fact that we're enjoying it is a matter of importance and it's happening more with gambling. Whether you're in for a horse race, basketball, esports, chess, or any other sports that are popular nowadays. The enjoyment is different from watching those candles and numbers go up and down. There's a difference in the entertainment value that it provides to all of us.

We're also cheerful when we support the sport that we love to watch and that changes our mood from time to time although this also happens in trading. But there is a different level of satisfaction when we win trades and bets, aside from winning your bets, the team you support or the player you bet on is also winning which shows that you're not just there plainly for the bet and to gamble but also the love you have for that athlete or team you have watched.

First of all, I don't know much about trading, I don't know that learning about trading takes a lot of time and that is something that has to be very delicate because it can have a lot of theory, and I hardly have time to learn something like that, I do. What I do is read articles from traders who are famous, from people who have been in the market for years and who give their opinion, many of them post their analysis and I could learn something from there, but there are many things, I don't know what they are. the best of the prediction tools because there are many, and I couldn't decide.

The casino is not trading, and the trading is not the casino, I am not Going to start trading by guessing as if I were playing in a slots, and the slots are pure luck and that is like a lottery, for me the casino seems perfect because I know it's luck, you don't have to think much, in trading you have to think a lot, consider many things that happen in the world, it's like a lot of Information.

You would really be needing to be delicate or else you would really be just simply be making yourself money blown away on just simply nitpicking whether the price would be going up or down.
Simply means that trading does really need up that serious approach rather than on not because its never been that enjoyable or entertaining but rather this is a serious business or dealing
which it would really be that totally different when you do gamble on which it would really be just that right that you should really be that having that different kind of approach when dealing up
with things. You would eventually finding out for yourself on which one is entertaining and which is needing that serious thing or approch.

Learning to trade takes a lot of time until you really understand it, and many cannot go through the process because the changes in the crypto market occur more frequently. They have a lot to learn as if it is a never-ending journey, which causes many people to experience boredom in learning to trade. But if they keep learning to change because they want to make a profit, they will see the results in a certain time, making them even more active in learning.

Meanwhile, gambling is an entertainment that you don't need to be too serious about learning unless you really want to make money from gambling. But it won't be easy because you will still have to learn the things needed to play gambling. If you want to place bets on sports betting, you must have analytical skills. And if you want to make money from card games, you must study them until you really understand them.

I have been trading futures for a long time but it does exactly like gambling in my opinion  so Prove me wrong: Gambling is both more relaxing and entertaining than trading gambling is more relaxing ane has less tense in my opinion than trade but gambling like the crash game is the same as trading but still fun hahaha.

When I open the position I just look at the chart draw some shit and open and hope the price goes like toward my direction but sometimes it doesn't and my heart beats fast whether my position is loss or win.

If we judge it from a "money" perspective, both of them are risking money for profit, but if we judge it from the real way they work, they are both different.

trading is always closer to seeking daily, weekly or even monthly profits, not to seeking entertainment or pleasure. so in trading, many people say that they are often tense and stressed because the fear of coin prices going down makes people's minds tense.

the concept is different from gambling which is closer to entertainment or fun, even though you can both get money, but the main way of working is for entertainment and even though it causes tension and sometimes makes you stressed, you can get treatment from the feeling of joy when you win and also look at the animated graphics. Images that can have a comfortable impact on gamblers so that tension and stress do not last long, but it all depends on each person's mindset.

for me, trading and gambling are still pros and cons because everyone has a different point of view and for someone who is very happy with trading, they will definitely say that trading is also fun, but gamblers think that trading does not provide pleasure and it is more fun to gamble while earning money. the advantage is that in sports betting we simply place a bet and then watch the match take place, which gives a very interesting sensation and is also accompanied by a feeling of joy when we win.

I can agree with you. Gambling is more fun and entertaining compared to trading. Even though these two things are both related to "betting" your money, I can say that these two things are different. Trading requires analysis and what you do is ensure that your analysis is in accordance with what is in the market. When your analysis is wrong, you can do a stop loss to get out of the market, there's no fun.
Meanwhile, when gambling, you are gambling your money either on a match or game. In this process, players enjoy the excitement of graphics, music, jackpots, bonuses, vibes, etc., which makes gambling even more exciting for players.

Sorry, I will comment on this, I have a different view where trading and gambling cannot be equated and compared because the domains are different. I believe that trading is complicated and requires patience and analysis to make a profit. And it tends to be legal in all countries, in contrast to gambling which in fact seems to be looking for fun instead of making money through betting. And I'm sure many people can do it compared to trading. Apart from that, not all countries legalize gambling, let alone Muslim countries.

+1 on this one. Trading sometimes gave us stress and headaches gambling only gave us chilling sensation when we lose. Speculation and technical analysis is not that easy unlike gambling where we only think of having fun. They were two different things for me like one is for fun and the other is for income.

I don't know about relaxing but I do agree that gabling is more entertaining than trading because you don't need to take gambling seriously unlike with trading where you need to put your game face on because you're playing with your money and a slight change is an opportunity for you to earn a profit so you can't afford to be dilly dally. Also, it's really hard to compare these two because gambling and trading is so different from one another and even if they say it's just like gambling, it's still isn't the same to me.

This is what I'm going to say. For me, gambling is more interesting and entertaining than trading but I can't say that this is more relaxing because both of them requires money. I can say that gambling gives us more positive vibes because of their visuals and type of game unlike on trading that focuses in more serious visuals that's why many people says gambling can give them relaxation and entertainment even if both of them requires money that has no guarantee of winning and losses.

That means the stess and anxiety is there as long as the trade or the bet is open. Therefore they're both stressful, and not one of them is more relaxing and entertaining as long as they're both "in action"?


HODL Bitcoin, although it could also be sometimes stressful, is definitely less stressful than active shitcoin day-trading and casino gambling. I can sleep knowing that there's always a next cycle.


Make a dedicated topic for Horse Racing? Post where to get information, knowledge, and guides for gambling on Horses. 8)

It might just be me but perpetual futures are also entertaining.
Relaxing though? Ugh. I think this sounds a bit out of place.
Whatever brings thrill to the player is also causing a bit of stress, therefore inhibiting the exact opposite bodily me mechanisms of getting relaxed. Both gambling and trading will probably have better results if you remain vigilant instead of relaxing.
If someone wants to relax and do something laid back they better just watch a sports match without having bet anything, just for the fun of it.  :D

Congratulations, you have a mindset and point of view that is directly proportional to what should be done and what is more advisable, the fact is that it is true that gambling should be used as a place of entertainment and if you feel that the activity can really entertain yourself then I think you will remain safe in your involvement in the sense that you will not experience too significant an impact, because after all even if you come with the recommended goal, there is still a risk that cannot be completely avoided. In terms of pressure and level of worry of course gambling and trading are quite equal in that regard, as you said because both of these things involve money and for the issue of percentage loss maybe I would say that gambling is more likely to allow you to lose a lot of money, because there is nothing that can be learned just to minimize the risk management that exists in trading with some experience.

On the other hand maybe I would say that gambling will really give you an entertaining positive impact if you come and engage with the right approach, because of course whether it's in trading or gambling all of that I think depends on the approach of each individual in terms of whether or not they will be able to benefit from both activities, for those who always overdo it and come without planning I think there will be absolutely no positive benefits that they will feel but a lot of pressure.

For me it is thrilling and entertaining it was never been relaxing since it makes me excited.
There are times that it would relieve my stress, or would make me feel better.
Gambling was a form of entertainment for me, it is like online games but more thrilling and excitement due to money being involve.

I can agree with you on the entertaining part but I'm not sure about the relaxing part.  ;D  It is more entertaining than trading because it is really so much fun to watch the game you bet on later. You are excitedly waiting for seeing whether your bet will win or not. Your bet doubles the excitement in the meantime which means it isn't very relaxing for me.  ;D

Because if your bet is still active in the final minutes of a game you get more worried and uncomfortable. It becomes extra exciting to follow those minutes before full time.

But nothing is more relaxing than getting a last minute goal for your bet to win in those minutes on one hand.  :D  So there is actually some relaxing part in it also, yeah.

We absolutely agree with you!We think that gambling has many advantages over trading are: fun, pretty predictable, and strong community.

yes it is clear that for entertainment , gambling is better than trading. but what is the main purpose of trading just for entertainment is of course not because the main purpose of trading is investment to increase income for this one thing, of course trading is better. although basically the same high risk.

While both trading and gambling involves money and some levels of prediction, trading cannot be said to be a fun activity, in fact trading is business and the traders involved must be careful so as not to lose money. Gambling for some people can be a big deal, a business. Just like in trading,  gamblers who gamble for the money are willing to risk huge amount of money so as to have higher chances of getting huge winnings. To many others,  it is merely for fun and nothing else.  A person can decide to use his spare time to gamble and with amounts he can afford to lose. Or he goes out with friends to Casinos or they use online gambling sites to gamble and have fun and on strict budgets (amounts they can afford to risk). Gambling can be both entertaining and business depending on the Gambler involved.  Both gambling and trading involves some levels of suspense, this particular aspect does not make them relaxing.

Trading is never been relaxing on which you would really be needing to be dead serious if you do want to succeed into this industry. We do know that when it comes to leisure time then nothing beats out gambling
but of course when we do speak about gambling and trading then we would really be able to differentiate in between the risks involved and you could be able to determine on which thing is really just that for fun
comparing into those who are really that doing some serious business.  ;D

When it comes to gambling then it would really be giving out that kind of adrenaline rush which is something that wont really be able to give out when you are doing trading.
You would really be definitely be able to gain those thrills and excitements on the time that you would really be dealing up with gambling.
This is why there would really be that significant differences in between things considering that they do have that different purpose in the first place.

If gambling is for fun then trading is not for fun because the trader is looking for money that's why he's trading Bitcoin, I don't really know about  Bitcoin trading but I not little about gambling because we do gamble ines in a while anf i love gambling too. I normally gamble for money and not for fun and I don't put in mind that gambling is for fun not until I find my self here, but for me I gamble for the money and not for the fun so it's cool to gamble and not to trade BTC, however the both of them are rising but trading is more risker than gambling, at least a bet have its time for it to end but trading does not have time to end, it your money can lose just in a seconds and that's why makes it so frustrating.

At first trading not something that's need to b fun to do. Trading like a business as much of as just emphasis on where you earn some funds through market fluctuations . While betting on the other hand are not fun all the time sometimes it might be fun at the start but at the end you may end up sad probably if you  didn't win. But trading is something that will take time to master. You easily managed your loss in trading than gambling but both play their own different roles.

I believe that gambling can be more entertaining due to the added element of risk. The possibility of winning or losing creates a sense of anticipation and excitement, which is why some people enjoy it. However, it's important to note that the entertainment factor doesn't just come from winning. Rather, it's the thrill of the possibility of doubling one's money with each bet that attracts many gamblers.

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Yes you could, but you wanted that big return too much.
The moment your game was already at 3 you could have taken an insurance bet for half of the money by betting against your fist bet.
So if you had a 100 stake in it at 3:1 you stand to win 300, but you could have easily at this point bet 100 on the result not happening.
You either lose the first bet but you win the second one and you're still on zero no win no loss or you win the first one and lose obviously the insurance with the cost being that you don't win 300 but only half of it.

Pretty simple!


Neah, I'm actually quite relaxed on the outcome of the bet.
I find it indeed thrilling as I watch the race for the race itself but I've stopped being concerned about the actual bet years ago, my horse could have felt 5 hurdles away but if the race is tight to the line between the ones left I'm still on the edge of the sofa grasping the pillow, despite the result not meaning a thing.
For the bet, I stooped caring, looking at my bet account in the last 3 years only 4 months I've ended in red, I know that if I'm keeping my budget tight and I don't make stupid mistakes I'm not going to lose enough to get me anxious.

I think trading is more tensed than gambling in gambling all you need to do is to get your games properly predicted to have a winning and to whatever prediction someone that is what they will get as in a return, and again gamblers already had this mindset that it a game of probability or chance based game and they wouldn't go that deep in putting their money to gamble even though there are chronic gambler who don't care about how much they spent in betting a game or multiple matches but we should they can't continually wasting such amount of money just make huge profits and even if they do we can term such people to be gambling addicts.

While in trading we have more pressure if that person is still a newbies trade s/he can easily empty their account at cost of trying to knows there stands maybe to make profit, although emptying account depends on individual they can still managed their funds possible gain little profit at point of that. Trading can be more preferable to to gambling since there are all possible best to still have your funds left with you compared to gambling were you place a bet and if the bet goes against you then the staked amount is gone.

Basically, trading is based on the desire to earn money, and gambling is based on the opportunity to earn money and get unforgettable emotions. Both there and there you can both achieve great success and lose all your money by getting into credits. Trading in this case is quite a lot of work

You are correct mate..
The stress in trading is what can't be achieved in any time soon and it requires lot of technicalities and more studying to be able to carry out effective trading even as that there is no assurance or guaranteed that once someone finished studying he would start earning from trading especially when started with Demo account before a trader could get used to real account he would have lost severally because of the trading fever that comes whenever someone goes live. Unlike gambling but at the time when all games goes life bettor finds it very difficult because at that moment if they stake with higher amount you would see that their countenance changes I think few days ago I experienced it as well.

They both want to achieve the same thing and they are not different from each other. Their role as an instrument to provide you with profit, excitement, and problems alike is the same as yours as the investor or bettor. The issue comes from the fact that once you commit your time to this type of money-profit activity, you feel compelled to complete the task at the moment.

If you trade, you must control your decision-making and set a budget for your investment. While some people enjoy trading because it will challenge them and has more potential for financial gain, others prefer gambling because it offers the excitement of chances and the possibility of big rewards.  Because of this, it all depends on the individual's preferences and expertise in this field. If you partake in any of these activities, you should trade and gamble responsibly. Rather than acting in a compulsive manner, try to comprehend and analyze the circumstances.

It is stressful for me to watch the market especially when you can see that all the hours you have spent on analyzing the market seemed to be wrong. It is not entertaining for, also even if I get my position correct and turns out to be a nice position tho.

Hmm, I think we can say that gambling is entertaining simply because it is made for entertainment haha. "Out of place" is quite harsh to describe it, I can see that it is your personal preference thus trading is more entertaining for you.

Wouldn't be much relaxing if to sleep? nah just kidding. Watching sports is relaxing, thrilling if you put some bet on it. I cannot watch sports without bet man, I mean I want to feel something while watching gives me more attention to the play/fight with a bet.

Relaxing can only possibly apply if you stay within your limits.   IF you bet the house then how can it be relaxing, as a game designed to be a leisure past time then yes gambling is the easier path then trading otherwise i don't especially agree.   Reason why OP might be more wrong then right is too many people walk into a bad situation lackadaisically, do the simple thing and have a set limited budget every day then mistakes are purely just for that day its all fun and games then.

If the gambler was in the real game of gambling,he should have huge money for the backup.If the gambler start with the money back,he can able to recover the big loss in the gambling site easily.The gambling is not the easy like the trading,because trading can be fixed by the good trading skills.The gambling is not cracked by using the skills alone,it need of luck along with the skills.If the gamblers try the game with the skills alone,it leads to the loss.The gamblers who have been in the gambling for the longer period will know that gambling based on both the skills and luck.If the gamblers do the gambling with the full luck also it won’t work.

Both trading and gambling serve different purposes and are used for different things, so there is no doubt that there will be a lot of differences between them. Gambling is fun, especially if you are making bets with money that you can afford to lose and will feel no remorse about if lost. On the other hand, trading is profitable, people use it to earn money using their money, and it provides better opportunities for that as it isn't solely dependent on luck.

I would never compare gambling with trading, and I would never argue with anyone who says gambling is more fun than trading because it's true. Trading can be stressful because you might have more money at stake and are not doing it to lose it. When it comes to gambling, most of us already know that we can lose the money that we are betting.

But if what you are looking for is peace and entertainment then gambling is the right place and gambler will definitely prefer to deposit their money to play rather than trade if they are looking for entertainment and satisfaction.
As long as gambler only has the goal of having fun and entertaining himself, large amounts of spare money are not really needed because using relatively small amounts of money and small bet can make gambler feel happy.
In contrast, when people are really looking for big adrenaline rush and feeling of satisfaction from big achievement from gambling, they may actually need a larger amount of cash reserves because they will feel full adrenaline and satisfaction with large betting amounts.
This will trigger the brain and heart to function faster because curiosity and anxiety will become one waiting for the results of the bets made.
It just that I don't recommend doing all that if your financial capabilities are inadequate.
And it true that gambling still depends on skill and luck to be successful, it just that being too careless is not good attitude because luck can never be predicted when it will come.

If you really want results and profits that are more clearly visible and the opportunities are quite large, then just leave gambling with all the luck and skills you have and then start trading.
This will be much more profitable and you can clearly see the opportunity to make some money if you really have the skills and knowledge in trading, but don't expect it to be fun because trading is not an activity that can be used for fun.

It's hard to tell, that's not the absolute truth about gambling, I know a few that rages when they lose a lot of money when they're gambling, have seen fights broke out in a casino back when I was a kid. Sure some people might be seeing it that way but I'm sure that's not the case for everyone. @STT says it best.
If you're putting in millions, I don't think that you can ever relax in that kind of situation because there's a lot of money at stake either you're a nihilist or a Buddhist kind of guy that you don't care about the money that you're going to lose no matter how large the amount is.

It is true that for those who like gambling, gambling is something that is more fun than trading because it has a different goal.
Traders can also experience losses but they can still be controlled so that there are not too many losses and can make a profit from their own money and it is simply better for them to make a profit from their own money than relying on luck in a game, namely gambling.
For someone who has experienced and repeated gambling and even experienced repeated wins, a gambler will think that gambling is a very enjoyable pastime and can make a profit through winning, this will make gambling a hobby.
and the main priority is to entertain and earn money through luck, but if a gambler experiences defeat, experiences losses and loses a lot of money, it will immediately change his mood, mentality and emotions to become unstable and unpleasant.

It is true that for those who like gambling, gambling is something that is more fun than trading because it has a different goal.
Traders can also experience losses but they can still be controlled so that there are not too many losses and they can make a profit from their own money and it is simply better for them to make a profit from their own money than relying on luck in a game, namely gambling.
For someone who has experienced and repeated gambling and even experienced repeated wins, a gambler will think that gambling is a very enjoyable entertainment and can make a profit through winning, this will make gambling a hobby.
and the main priority is to entertain and earn money through luck, but if a gambler experiences defeat, experiences losses and loses a lot of money, it will immediately change his mood, mentality and emotions to become unstable and unpleasant.

if gambling is done in a relaxed and self-controlled manner it will certainly be more fun than trading, but in trading it will also be fun if you have skills, maybe you think that trading is just guessing up or down, I think more than we think when you show high interest in a project, for example you like gambling, there are gambling projects that also provide their tokens such as betfurry, frebitcoin and others. I'm sure you will occasionally glance at these tokens

The world of gambling is full of unique things, sometimes those who are too serious about gambling, there are many things that look negative and positive from people's views, calming and entertaining is not something that is wrong and wrong in the field, This is indeed the fact that happens in the field, but for those who have never gambled, of course they think where is the entertainment and pleasure, they think that those who gamble are stressed and crazy, that is the opinion of those who hate those who gamble.

Many of us see them betting on ridiculous and unreasonable things, for example: cars passing on the highway can be used as games and gambling, which means they gamble just for fun and entertainment, Sometimes pleasure doesn't just come from how many billions of dollars we have, small and trivial things can be entertainment for most people.


Talking about trading, of course, trading makes us feel bored and boring, trading doesn't look calming and entertaining, it actually makes us tense.
To be honest, for me, gambling is always using a type of game that can make gamblers entertained and happy, that's gambling, the more you get into it, the more real it is shown.

Since I am into both stock trading and football betting, I can agree that gambling has an entertainment value when compared to stock trading. I have no fun in stock trading. I have been into sports betting for 6 years and I can say that even when I lose, I am still entertained since I watch most of the games I staked on without considering how much I have staked. I always try to watch the games and stay happy. This is something you don't get in stock trading.

I have been into trading for 12 years now and successful for 7 years. It is always painful losing money because the only reason I trade is to make money. I have always preoccupied my mind with when the market might open the next day. Sometimes, when I make a profit, I am still not happy because I would have profited more if I had waited a day to liquidate.

Gambling and commerce are from separate worlds. One's wishful, the other strategic. Both take risks, but only one is diligent. Traders use tools, analysis, and science. They control the bleed and alter the tides with more than a wish

Our story's villain isn't gambling. The player's thinking matters. When done for fun, gambling can be a test of luck, but its unpredictability requires respect. The tables shift against you when it becomes more than fun

Healthy gambling? It exists. Limits, odds against you, and perceiving it as a diversion, not a lifeline. Avoid allowing highs blind you to inevitable lows. Cross that boundary and the exhilaration might turn to despair. Staying right adds a little excitement to life, but nothing more

It is true that gambling and trading have different worlds and have their own risks, one of the purposes of gambling is based on momentary pleasure and perhaps it could be said to be entertainment when you are bored and it could be to try out playing and make quick profits, but luck every gambler does not necessarily and is not certain to win.
If a gambler experiences a win, perhaps the mood will be happy and quite entertained by the win and if on the contrary the gambler experiences a loss, it is not necessarily the mood that will be entertained. If the gambler experiences consecutive losses and loses a lot of money, he will definitely be ambitious and not use reasoning in playing because chasing the losses he lost, the mood will become emotional and the ambition to win can be said to no longer be an entertainment.
It's different if the gambler has a lot of money, losing isn't a problem, it's certain that gambling is just for entertainment.
The term is different from trading, it can also be for entertainers, but you are more careful and you can take advantage of trading, if you experience a loss you will be more careful in taking risks, so gambling is indeed more entertaining, but gambling wins are based on luck which is not certain or certain.